USC: the Husky nuclear submarine combines the qualities of a strategic and multi-purpose ship

The submarine 5 th generation "Husky" will be the most unified for a number of its main elements, conveys TASS the message of the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, Alexey Rakhmanov.

“The project of the fifth generation boat is being actively discussed, and preliminary technical tasks of various kinds are being prepared, and developments are being conducted. It will be a completely different boat in terms of physical fields. This will be a boat that will be unified - strategic and multi-purpose for a number of its key elements ",

said Rakhmanov on the air of Echo of Moscow.

According to him, the submarine "will be different weaponsbut the USC is faced with the task of achieving maximum unification in order to get the best price offer for the Russian Defense Ministry. ”

“If we finish the development of the fourth generation boat in 2017-2018, and if we don’t start developing the fifth generation boat in these years, we will release it not earlier than 2030 of the year,” the head of the corporation said.

Answering the question about the construction of the first aircraft carrier, Rakhmanov said that its construction can be carried out at least at two shipbuilding enterprises in St. Petersburg.

“We will have at least two places where we can build an aircraft carrier at our facilities. The first is the Baltzavod, the second is the Northern shipyard, we hope that we will start building a dry dock there this year, ”he said.

When asked about the deadlines, Rakhmanov replied that "the average design cycle (and construction) of ships of this kind, taking into account novelty, can reach ten years."

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[Same lech]

If you manage to put into service this submarine ZIRCON missiles with the declared characteristics ... then it will be a truly breakthrough weapon.

[Wolverine]

God forbid your words ...

[Pravdarm]

said Rakhmanov on the air of Echo of Moscow.

These American whores will now be torn that Russia spends national money on aircraft carriers, and weapons, when in the country ...
Where is Tolmach? Pleasing for torn to shreds Russia. This is his theme!

[jjj]

It is being let into fog

[hartlend]

I agree. Everything is muddy and vague.

[cniza]

We don’t know too much, but the stuffing is all the more an echo ... so for the record, something is being conceived.

[bulvas]

Can anyone explain why on our boats there are at least 3 dozen "calibers", while the Americans place hundreds of "tomahawks" on theirs?

Do our boats seem to be bigger, are the missiles so big?

[Muvka]

Quote: bulvas

Can anyone explain why on our boats there are at least 3 dozen "calibers", while the Americans place hundreds of "tomahawks" on theirs?

Do our boats seem to be bigger, are the missiles so big?

And you were not interested, on their ships, the size of ours and so many tomahawks, if the missile defense / air defense system?

[Talgat]

Quote: bulvas

Can anyone explain why on our boats there are at least 3 dozen "calibers", while the Americans place hundreds of "tomahawks" on theirs?

Do our boats seem to be bigger, are the missiles so big?

I'm not an expert on naval warfare - but just to retell what I read

the Americans remade several Ohio SSBNs - removed SLBMs from them - instead of each, they placed a nest with 6 or 7 containers for KR. The result was a lot - I don’t remember exactly and too lazy to google - but if there were 20 SLBMs, then you will get at least more than a hundred slots for KR

On our "loaves" (this is a nuclear submarine with a KR) there were 24 "granite-volcanoes" each having names depending on the modification - I apologize for not being accurate - but not the point. The missiles are old and large -

I read that they plan to replace each nest of the old rocket with 3 nests of onyx or caliber on "loaves" - that's when it will come out like amers - almost 72 missiles per submarine

Ashen - there is no superfluous place - initially there are 32 sockets for onyxes. Which is quite enough for the sinking of the same aircraft carrier from a distance such as 100 km

[opus]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

If you succeed

If "Husky" is a "Ash" that has undergone liposuction, then they will put

[Ze Kot]

Quote: The same Lech

If you manage to put into service this submarine ZIRCON missiles with the declared characteristics ... then it will be a truly breakthrough weapon.

This is a new generation of boats. There must be other materials and other weapons. For the 5th generation, Zircon "may be a bit old."

[NEXUS]

Quote: The Cat

This is a new generation of boats. There must be other materials and other weapons. For the 5th generation, Zircon "may be a bit old."

So I’m saying that most likely the modernized Zircons will already be installed on Husky, or something even more killer and faster and completely new.

[opus]

Quote: NEXUS

already will put the upgraded Zircons

There is still no "not modernized" 3K-22 Zircon

Unsuccessful rocket launch at the Nyonoksa test site on December 15, 2015 Presumably this is the first launch of the Zircon rocket from a ground launch complex?




Either ZK-22, or:

Quote: The Cat

For the 5th generation, Zircon "may be a bit old."

What is "newer" you hear?
...

[NEXUS]

Quote: The same Lech

If you manage to put into service this submarine ZIRCON missiles with the declared characteristics ... then it will be a truly breakthrough weapon.

Zircon on Husky will be unambiguous and even already in a modernized version, since the time of designing, laying, building is not at all small, and the Zircons will be on Nakhimov in two years, and then on Petra, that is, 2-4 years ... and the question is Husky before the launch of the lead submarine is about 10 years.

[hartlend]

There is no boat, there is no project, there is not even a preliminary technical task for the design, and you are all about Zircons.

[gispanec]

Quote: NEXUS

Husky zircon will be unambiguous and even already in a modernized version,

that’s how it is ..... and the husky is not even on paper yet .... and the zircon will be unambiguously on it .... he said how he cut it off .... well, it’s direct to the commander in chief no other way ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: gispanec

that’s how it is ..... and the husky is not even on paper yet .... and the zircon will be unambiguously on it .... he said how he cut it off .... well, it’s direct to the commander in chief no other way ...

You are apparently very proud of this vyser ... For those smart people like you, last year it was announced that Zircon would be installed on the TARK Nakhimov, as well as Peter the Great on the TARK. And now we strain our memory and remember when the modernization of Nakhimov was completed ... in 18 and in the trail of him will be sent to the docks by Peter. So for such clever people the article says that -

When asked about the deadlines, Rakhmanov replied that "the average design cycle (and construction) of ships of this kind, taking into account novelty, can reach ten years."

That is, in terms of time, in Husky, in any case, there will be Zircons, either an upgraded version, or in general something newer.

[gispanec]

Quote: NEXUS

You are apparently very proud of this vyser.

well this is definitely

Quote: NEXUS

That is, in terms of time, in Husky in any case there will be Zircons

these boats are not yet on paper but at the chants they are already armed with missiles that are still taught to fly .....

[Mountain shooter]

The boats are secretive, with a minimal crew, armed to the teeth. Shipbuilders dispersed. One has only to admire.

[Odysseus]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

The boats are secretive, with a minimal crew, armed to the teeth. Shipbuilders dispersed. One has only to admire.

Are you joking or trolling like that? For all the time after the collapse of the USSR (that is, 25 years), not counting the completion of Soviet boats, was built- one multipurpose nuclear submarine.
And then be in trial operation.
That's how we dispersed .....

[Muvka]

Damn, why, WHY do you put this fucking soft sign in the verbs of the present? How it infuriates me already. Illiterate ...

[VALERIK_097]

Alas, you don’t know what later, and it’s all given to shipbuilders and ship repairmen (Mountain arrow) with blood.

[Wolka]

alas, but slowly, slowly the process is going on, with the current level of programming and 3D equipment, the concept development process should be much faster

[Whatabout]

Give frames a hand to fill and the process will go faster. Indeed, in fact, only recently has technological re-equipment been carried out: the amount of documentation that needs to be transferred to new tracks is enormous. The KLA is facing the same problems.

[FID]

Quote: WhatAbout

Give frames a hand to fill and the process will go faster. Indeed, in fact, only recently has technological re-equipment been carried out: the amount of documentation that needs to be transferred to new tracks is enormous. The KLA is facing the same problems.

Speaking of personnel ... Read the biography of this A. Rakhmanov - very interesting, very ...

[Aleksandr1959]

Interesting biography. But, I can note that the audit and consulting company Ernst & Young, where Rakhmanov worked, is a good school. This is not "office plankton". You have to plow there oh so much. The working day is not standardized. And the requirements for the staff are very strict. I know, because my daughter worked for several years in the Moscow office of this company.

[Izotovp]

There essentially a completely new program is obtained. If you recall the use of new materials in the casing, especially plastics, then this is a full-cycle test work .... it's even hard to list everything)))) from corrosion and vibration (and vibration is sound !!!) from the operation of the units , especially since the units will also be largely new.

[VALERIK_097]

Mountain shooter: I wonder where so much faster? Exaggerate-
A 6th-degree welder fuses a seam under an ultrasound scan and gamma-ray scan for 45 minutes, do you want him to do his job in 15 minutes?

[Observer2014]

USC: the Husky nuclear submarine combines the qualities of a strategic and multi-purpose ship
I think so now every new nuclear multipurpose submarine in Russia will be able to carry out strategic tasks. Personally, God forbid for an idea or moralizing.
Why can't the remaining boats of Project 941 "Shark" be remade for shooting with the same "Calibers"? Just imagine how many of them will go there! I am silent about the adaptation of the X-101 shooting from under the water.

[grandson of the hero]

Everything is good there. And your comments are taken into account.

[Observer2014]

grandson of the hero RU Today, 14:31 ↑ New
Everything is good there. And your comments are taken into account.
What remarks !? I said, "God forbid," that is not something to think about, because apart from the ship modeling circle, my grandfather and brother have nothing to do with the fleet. By the way, my grandfather served in Sevastopol after the war.

[Dangerous]

Well, they already wrote that:
1) alteration of launch pits for calibers will result in a pretty penny
2) maintaining the already elderly "Sharks" in a working condition will result in an even bigger pretty penny
3) Sharks were created for other purposes and tasks - to launch ICBMs over many thousands of kilometers, possibly from the territorial waters of the USSR / Russia, hence the enormous dimensions and high visibility. Gauges will have to be launched at a distance of 1,5 - 2 thousand km from the enemy’s coast, and the shark may not reach this milestone in the current conditions, given the number of multipurpose nuclear submarines among the Americans.

[Observer2014]

"Dangerous"
I anticipated your question, which is too expensive. But notice that we need hidden cruise missile carriers to launch around the perimeter of Russia. YES? Yes, we need it. We need to fend off a "global strike" Although there may be enough "Calibers" from a nuclear warhead located on boats and corvettes. To contain the foe. And my "idea" with the "Sharks" would be, by the way, a little further in time and useful. When we move from containment to the offensive, then ...

[Izotovp]

Shark is better for special vehicles
For example, carriers of underwater hunting robots)))

[gispanec]

Quote: Izotovp

Shark is better for special vehicles

Alles .... forget you about the Sharks .... well, there is no money and there will be no solution for their modif .... even gas workers refused them (they thought to remake them under a huge gas and oil tanker)

[Izotovp]

Yes I know. So already this, the desired ... sad ... was the Empire and everything that was done was imperial. Powerful, reliable and beautiful ... and now ... plastic and fast food

[NEXUS]

Quote: Izotovp

Shark is better for special vehicles
For example, carriers of underwater hunting robots)))

Or the carrier of Status-6. Dimensions allow.

[mav1971]

Quote: Observer2014

Why can't the remaining boats of Project 941 "Shark" be remade for shooting with the same "Calibers"? Just imagine how many of them will go there! I am silent about the adaptation of the X-101 shooting from under the water.

The caliber in the tactical (or nuclear) version has a flight range of 2500 km.

941 project - was created for operation in the Arctic Ocean.
All its characteristics during the design were sharpened precisely for these operating conditions.

An attempt to install multiple Calibers will force her to "walk" very far from her shores, from her guards and escorts.
The boat is huge. With large unmasking signs.
And acoustics, and magnetometry.
And the wake trace and the thermal trace.
And when computers learned to analyze all this comprehensively, it becomes clear that hiding such a whopper somewhere in the Norwegian or North Sea is unrealistic.
The way to the warm seas is "ordered" - the cooling system will not be able to work.
So it’s right that they don’t redo it.

[Observer2014]

Will the X-101 be "remade" or "sharpened" for firing from under the water? Will the ice also melt from the heat in the Arctic Ocean?

[Observer2014]

and why shoot it in the USA? In Europe, too, there are more than enough goals.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Observer2014

and why shoot it in the USA? In Europe, too, there are more than enough goals.

For this, there are Iskander and Ground-based Caliber.

[mav1971]

Quote: Observer2014

and why shoot it in the USA? In Europe, too, there are more than enough goals.

Although you have the nickname "observer" - you do not see anything.
And here is Europe or America?

The concept of "conventional Ohio" is an invisible, stealthy arsenal ship.
For delivering a sudden disarming strike.
Anywhere in the world.
Though in Australia, even in Guatemala, even in Portugal, or Malaysia.
That would be like in the Russian life meme "nothing foreshadowed trouble ..."

For no one knows what will happen in the world in 10-15 years.


Imagine an abstract situation.
April 1986 year. Libya.
Only instead of a bunch of planes and an aircraft carrier - one Ohio with its 154 missiles.
The launch point of missiles in any place that interests her.
At least from the border of territorial waters, even with 100 miles.
If only there was no PLO ship nearby.
And the presence of such a ship is easily controlled.

And rushed.

150 missiles will go to targets faster than they will understand what is happening on the shore.
Only 10 seconds is needed for the rocket to reach the height of 300 meters after launch.
If you saw caliber launches from Rostov, you noticed that the firing interval was about 5 seconds (4-6 seconds).

I would be glad if we had such a submarine.
At least there would always be a potential fist capable of kneeling almost any country in the world (well, except for the Euro-State-China) with one blow.

And maybe one of the Boreans would make sense immediately to do under the KR.
Unless, of course, he was also structurally "sharpened" under cold water, like the Sharks.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Observer2014

Will the X-101 be "remade" or "sharpened" for firing from under the water? Will the ice also melt from the heat in the Arctic Ocean?

Why? The X-101/102 range of 5500 km is achieved by letting it fly in the air, that is, there is no need to take extra effort to lift it into the air. And from an underwater position, this range will be cut in half. But the Caliber beats at 2600 km. Then the question is, why rework the X-101?

[Dmitry Potapov]

Keeping up with the times! It's good! The main thing is that nothing would make you turn off the chosen path! And we will provide hemorrhoids NATE.

[weksha50]

"It will be a boat that will be unified - strategic and multi-purpose in a number of its key elements."...

And then we are talking about the possibility of building as many as two (!!!) aircraft carriers ...

I don’t know, maybe I’m not right, but it’s better to build 5-6 multipurpose nuclear submarines (if not more for the same money that will need to be invested in the construction of aircraft carriers) ...

Even our participation in Syria does not give one hundred percent confirmation of the need for aircraft carriers ... Other types of ships are needed - yes ...

[hartlend]

The General Staff decides what is best, what is needed based on the tasks that are planned to be carried out.

[Muvka]

Quote: hartlend

The General Staff decides what is best, what is needed based on the tasks that are planned to be carried out.

And for what tasks do we need aircraft carriers?

[Wedmak]

Curiously, do they want to cross the carrier of an ICBM and a multipurpose submarine? This is generally modularity. If you allocate an armament compartment behind the cutting cabin, you can shove any launchers of your choice there. The only question is: how effective will the 4-6 ICBMs be in place of 16? They will not sculpt a submarine with a compartment under the 16 ICBM, but load Caliber there? Although....

[34 region]

Theoretically, the military-industrial complex should support the country's economy. The development of modern technologies not bought abroad (and there are some developments). The development of related dual-use industries. These taxes will partially offset government defense spending. Salaries of workers will put pressure on the civilian production market, and these are also taxes and compensation for defense spending. Management is slowly starting to lay a bolt on private business and is beginning to take power into its own hands. Spell time, come, invest, produce, it seems to pass. The international situation is forcing to get rid of impotence. Although private attachments to the military-industrial complex are likely to remain.

[Monos]

She will be a completely different boat in terms of physical fields.

As I understand it, we are talking about the distortion of the "portrait" of the boat, "drawn" by each of the five known fundamental fields.

[Pvi1206]

It’s good that we do not stop there.
The technique must be continuously improved so that we do not find ourselves in the lagging behind.

[Dangerous]

It's good that you can comment on the article! You can write a comment for the comment! I fully support !!

[voyaka uh]

It seems like a Virginia-class, or what?
Americans mold them like pies, for 2 years, 2 per year enter
in operation of the Navy. In formation 12, there will be 60 in total.

[Winnie76]

Seriously? They’ve been building them for five years, every ...
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Подводные_лодки_типа_«Вир

[Pygmy]

Quote: Dangerous

Well, they already wrote that:
1) alteration of launch pits for calibers will result in a pretty penny
2) maintaining the already elderly "Sharks" in a working condition will result in an even bigger pretty penny
3) Sharks were created for other purposes and tasks - to launch ICBMs over many thousands of kilometers, possibly from the territorial waters of the USSR / Russia, hence the enormous dimensions and high visibility. Gauges will have to be launched at a distance of 1,5 - 2 thousand km from the enemy’s coast, and the shark may not reach this milestone in the current conditions, given the number of multipurpose nuclear submarines among the Americans.

In addition to the amerikosov, we may have other opponents ..... and a combined salvo of 2 - 3 "sharks" will sweep the small state off the map of the world.

[podgornovea]

"In addition to the amerikosov, we may have other opponents ..... and a combined salvo of 2 - 3 "sharks" will sweep the small state off the map of the world."

Do not sweep. In Syria, almost half a year was swept away by 40-80 sorties per day, and then there were still many bearded

[mav1971]

Quote: podgornovea

"In addition to the amerikosov, we may have other opponents ..... and a combined salvo of 2 - 3 "sharks" will sweep the small state off the map of the world."

Do not sweep. In Syria, almost half a year was swept away by 40-80 sorties per day, and then there were still many bearded

You do not confuse.
It’s one thing to demolish state infrastructure.
Another thing is to drive through the desert for wild goats ... bam ...

[gispanec]

Quote: Pygmy

.a cumulative salvo of 2 - 3 "sharks" will sweep the small state off the map of the world.

... .... what will sweep? a bunch or air from purging ballast tanks? ..... do you even learn materiel .... for today and for 10 years ahead it's just boats without the main caliber ... well, nothing to shoot with and build our industry for them missiles can...

[Nikolay71]

“If we finish the development of the fourth-generation boat in the 2017-2018 years, and if we do not begin the development of the fifth-generation boat in these years, we will release it no earlier than the 2030 of the year”
And "Boreas" and "Ash trees" are not the fourth generation? Maybe he wanted to say that the fourth generation will be finished in 2018.
“The fifth-generation boat project is being actively discussed, and preliminary technical tasks of various kinds are being prepared, and developments are being conducted. She will be a completely different boat in terms of physical fields. It will be a boat that will be unified - strategic and multi-purpose in a number of its key elements ”
Somehow it is not clear - will there be one boat or two unified to the maximum?

[Evil 55]

"Husky" .. an interesting name for the project .. each American "town" has a personal "dog" ... and the world can sleep peacefully ..

[rubidium]

oh and i don't like these thoughts about aircraft carriers ... Submarines are our everything.

[Odysseus]

Didn’t finish the Ash trees and have an advertisement for Husky? PR is everything, reality is nothing?
It would be better to talk about the state of affairs with the development and construction of Ash.

[Berber]

Husky is an intermediate option between Ash and Lada. Lada is good, but it takes few missiles. And Ash is dear. And the concepts of application, in connection with the emergence of new types of missiles, are changing. This is a more economical addition to "strategists". And the missiles are essentially medium-range.

[NEXUS]

Quote: BerBer

Husky is an intermediate option between Ashen and Lada. Lada is good, but takes little rockets. And Ash, dear.

Lada is a submarine with anaerobic SU, and Ash is a submarine with atomic SU. What is an intermediate option? Ash trees are really expensive, and therefore it is decided to create a submarine that is not inferior to Ash in power and functionality (maybe even superior), but cheaper, inconspicuous and easy to assemble.

[afrikanez]

Well, for the successful project "Husky"!

[cedar]

Quote: Alexander1959

Alexander1959 (1) Today, 14: 30 ↑ New
An interesting biography. But, I can note that the audit and consulting company Ernst & Young,where Rakhmanov worked, a good school... This is not "office plankton". You have to plow there oh so much. The working day is not standardized. And the requirements for the staff are very strict. I know, because my daughter worked for several years in the Moscow office of this company.

Ernst & Young (currently - EY) - British audit and consulting company, one of the largest in the world (included in the "Big Four" of audit companies). Since 2013, it has been operating under the brand name EY. Headquarters - in London.

Ernst & Young - BRAKES, the fact that London drives the Russian economy through it clearly speaks of our colonial dependence and the absence of Russian sovereignty! Like it or not, Rakhmonov is a protege of London, and the Anglo-Saxons develop our navy and not only .., like a sickle in a famous place!
"You have to plow there oh so much. The working day is not standardized. And the requirements for personnel are very strict." Plow, plow and smell and sow the eternal and good seed ... from London. Draw conclusions, gentlemen, comrades!

[AUL]

Quote: hartlend

There is no boat, there is no project, there is not even a preliminary technical task for the design, and you are all about Zircons.

Zircon, by the way, is also not yet, so far only being tested.