The loins of a non-systemic opposition, a "very scary movie" about Putin and the depth of the program of one of the parliamentary parties

Less than five and a half months remain before the elections to the State Duma of the Russian Federation (the first elections with a five-year time interval), and therefore I want to pay attention to how the political forces of the Russian Federation are preparing to take (or not to take) participation in these elections. Five and a half months - the term from the point of view of political preparation for a large-scale candy-bouquet period for the electorate is not that great, and therefore it will be particularly entertaining to appeal to at least party hints about what “sweets” and “bouquets” Russian political forces will prepare people for the next 5-year period of “living together”.

The political program of Parnassus in the form of naked, forgive, the backside of “a person resembling” Mikhail Kasyanov and the intimate speeches of him during a “personal meeting” with a colleague (of the “opposite” gender) are not clear ... on the face ... Or rather, on a completely different part of the body ... And so, frankly, it would be strange to concentrate on information about such a "party" preparation for elections to the State Duma.

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to pay attention to the preparations for the Russian elections of the Western interested "elites" who presented the same film, after watching which the world was supposed to "stop being the same." The so-called journalist Drew Sullivan gave material that the Russian president is, you know, a corrupt official and the owner of “factories, newspapers, steamboats”, as well as a “seducer of gullible ladies” and “exploiter of Panamanian offshore companies” (still - Putin has a tracksuit ... for "probably", 3 thousand dollars ...), and all the other world leaders are adherents of crystal honesty, altruists and angels about white wings ... It would be worth paying attention to that, but only materialchik, by and large, in the informational context is similar to the material bare ass "human-like" Mikhail Kasyanov. In general, something from the category of an extraordinary release of impassable boulevardism, by the method of which some try to sting others, while others try to sting in the opposite direction.

Another thing is to pay attention to the information preparation for the elections by representatives of those political forces who are ready to actually participate in the parliamentary race as candidates. And while the list of candidates (parties) officially announced by the new CEC head Ella Pamfilova is not available, you can afford to ask about the program areas that parliamentary parties are today - that is, those who will participate in the forthcoming elections by definition. As they say, the electorate should know not only what size is the fifth point of the main inhabitant of PARNAS, but also the real points of the real political programs of real parties.

The method of blind copyright lot was shown by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and therefore in this material it will be a matter of the political program that the party with the permanent leader in the person of Gennady Zyuganov proposes.

The press service of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation distributes a brief information on how this party is positioning itself today, which, incidentally, is the second with the 11,57% result in the 2011 election of the year.

So, help:

The motto of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation “Russia, work, democracy, socialism!” Is the four-word focused meaning of the communist struggle.
By deception and violence, the country is returned to capitalism. This is the path of social regress leading to a national catastrophe, the death of the Russian, Russian civilization. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation waged an uncompromising struggle against the restoration of capitalism, the destruction of the USSR and the destruction of Soviet power. Today the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is the only political organization that consistently defends the rights of people in wage labor and national state interests. The strategic goal of the party is to build in Russia a renewed socialism, socialism of the 21st century.

How does the party of Gennady Zyuganov, who in 1996 had reconciled with the “fake” defeat from Boris Yeltsin, allegedly with the aim of “not escalating the situation in the country”, is going to build a renewed socialism in the Russian Federation? For this, it is worth referring to the list of sections bearing the single name “What the Communists are fighting for”. The list at the moment is as follows:

Education for all.
Worthy youth policy.
Honest and free elections. Democracy.
The development of our culture.
For honest and truthful media.
Russian, friendship among peoples. The national liberation struggle
For the people's army.
For industrialization.
For the best future of children.
Against police and administrative arbitrariness
For the revival of the Russian village.
For a fair social policy

Etc.

The list, of course, is more than serious, and therefore it is worth touching in more detail at least one of the points of the program, as if called upon to reveal what the politicians who call themselves communists today are fighting for. Given the fact that the main focus of our information and analytical portal is a military issue, the point “For the People’s Army” should be touched.

That's just a pity that no one will see any program under this item, but instead the Communist Party of the Russian Federation introduces materials on how representatives of the party took part in various celebrations on the occasion of one or another anniversary or of a particular military holiday ... , procession, participation in TV programs ...

Of course, the electorate may be interested in exactly when and with whom a particular deputy celebrated, for example, the 98 anniversary of the formation of the Soviet Army, but still, it seems that this is somewhat not the kind of information that can attract the attention of a potential voter to the program party. Or is there no such task before the party today? ..

Speaking of program KPRF. Perhaps it is in it that one can find the concrete definition of all those steps that should lead to the creation of a people's army, which is mentioned in the above mentioned list. Or at least get the definition of this very popular army. However, in the program of the Communist Party about this, too, not a word. There are many words about the need to build socialism against the background of decaying capitalism, there are words of Lenin about “sticking alien elements”, underestimating the danger of the processes occurring in and around Russia ... There are also words about the need to “establish the democratic power of the working people” also that the Communist Party "after establishing political and economic stability in the country" will take some measures to expand the powers of workers in governing the country. Well, there is another expanded list of how the Communist Party will restore high standards of education and medicine, form a system of government responsibility for housing and housing and communal services, create an independent judicial system, support entrepreneurship, and even return all assets in Russia and nationalize strategic industries. and natural wealth. That's it ...

And again everything is very beautiful, but, frankly speaking (and this, as someone might think, is not an attempt to quip, but an ordinary statement of fact), it smacks of populism very, very much. Again, there is not a word about the “people's army”, and therefore it seems that in the previous list this term appeared either by accident or by this way the CPRF tried to attract the attention of those who really cares for the Russian army (for example, the Military Review readers) without developing the idea to the end (if this idea exists at all).

And it also seems that the “program of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation” seems to be frozen in time. Perhaps she would not have raised questions even 20 years ago, because we (the Russians) then, as the well-known social advertising said, should have “vote with our hearts”. But now, more and more of those who really get a grasp of the programs, trying to understand how much their points correspond to reality.

And the main thing is that it does not happen that such programs were originally conceived for “those who vote with the heart” and other internal organs without engaging the brain. After all, everyone is able to answer the question “what to do?” (And no programs are needed), but the question “how?” Already, as they say, is not so simple ...

Comments

[Same lech]

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to pay attention to the preparation for the Russian elections of Western interested “elites”

And what is there to pay ... the attack is already on all fronts.

the author seems to lick the United Russia party)))

Ugly expressed dear ...

[dmi.pris1]

He may have expressed himself in an ugly way, but it is available to the point ... And what do the gentlemen from "United Russia" offer. What have they created in Russia ??? A large parliamentary faction of idlers (to put it mildly). Yes, that's all ..

Quote: The same Lech

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to pay attention to the preparation for the Russian elections of Western interested “elites”

And what is there to pay ... the attack is already on all fronts.

the author seems to lick the United Russia party)))

Ugly expressed dear ...

[Same lech]

He may have expressed himself ugly, but he is accessible to the point.

Then, just go to the mat and pouring mud on the author ... whom I respect for many interesting articles on HBO.

Further ... I myself am not a supporter of UNITED RUSSIA because I believe that this party is, to put it mildly, with a sweet heart ... to begin to rot and it is necessary to change the leadership to closer to the aspirations of the people ... ordinary citizens.
Further .... Unified RUSSIA became associated with Mr. MEDVEDEV to whom I dislike (which I can’t get rid of ... well, I don’t believe him and that’s it).
Further ... the Communist Party of RUSSIA today does not have universal authority among the people of RUSSIA ... so it needs to be updated in a modern way, it is necessary to find ways to the souls of people of different faiths, lifestyles, worldviews ...
and how to do it she must find herself.

[SERGEY K. N]

Mr. Medvedev with the liberal-economic bloc is doing everything to ensure that there is a minimum of votes for "United Russia".

[Pravdarm]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The Communist Party of RUSSIA at the moment does not have universal authority among the people of RUSSIA

It may not have anything in common, but very many are in solidarity. (according to preliminary polls, right now there are a lot of "For" the Communist Party in Russia. 30-40%, which makes it possible to compete with the EP (just don't talk about polls like "You yourself know how these polls are" done ", this is once, two months back they showed in Russia 24) That is why the CPRF is so humiliated and poked, and they are the only ones in favor of NATIONALIZATION.
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Quote: vladimirZ, Today, 07:58 speaks of two options

In the current political situation in Russia, there are only 2 options and no others.
The first is the further destruction of industry, the economy, the impoverishment of large masses, under the leadership of the liberal party of oligarchs and officials of United Russia.
The second is to try, under the leadership of the Communist Party (Communists), their real program aimed at infringing upon the interests of raw oligarchs and super-rich, to recreate a socially just state controlled by the people.
So choose either for the oligarchs and officials, their party "United Russia" or for the people and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (communists).

Quote: The same LYOKHA

then she needs to be updated in a modern way

Just like the author said. What does "update" mean? What kind of word search ?! Everything is fine there!

we must find ways to the souls of people of different faiths, lifestyles, worldviews ...

? Everything has already been found, a long time ago.

P.S. It is possible that this campaign is not even for United Russia, but for Starikov’s air defense, because many no longer like EP. That is, again, I repeat, voting for Starikov, helping EP, because votes for him (because he won’t pass) will bring EP benefits. This is such a media trick EP!

PPS: "The same LYOKHA" is often in the first lines of such articles. For EP or Starikov.

[Same lech]

PPS: "The same LYOKHA" is often in the first lines of such articles. For EP or Starikov.

I prefer to think and express what I think with my own head ... and EP and OLD MAN are not authorities for me.
If you didn’t live up to someone’s expectations ...
sorry to blame ... so born and so die.

[bondarenko]

Do not die - LIVE!

[Pravdarm]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

I prefer to think and express what I think with my head ..

So do I.
Sorry if offended.
Probably it seemed. I can’t fix it already. He regretted this attack. I am ashamed.
With respect! To your opinion.

[222222]

SERGEY K. N RU Today, 08:50 ↑ New
Mr. Medvedev with the liberal-economic bloc is doing everything to ensure that there is a minimum of votes for the "United Russia". "

..2020 year! ..
.. "- SIR, .. I recently visited Russia here ..
- Well, how do you like this country? .....
- Incredibly backward .. You WILL NOT believe .. there are still MEN WITH WOMEN sleep .. "

[vladimirZ]

The latest information about how the party of power "United Russia" acted in the last elections, and due to what, in the end, "won" the upper hand.
It will be especially interesting for those dodging elections and claiming that there is no one to vote for. Remember your "voice" and the corresponding bulletin is dropped for the liberals and oligarchs, their representatives "United Russia".
And here is another confirmation that this was happening.

On April 4, 2016, the Communist Party faction in the State Duma, signed by its leader Gennady Andreyevich Zyuganov, sent an appeal to the new CEC Chairman Ella Alexandrovna Pamfilova.

The appeal of the faction lists all the “feats” of the election commissions of the Nizhny Novgorod region over the past 6 years, including: mass creation of fictitious polling stations, with 100% turnout of “dead souls”, “correctly” set up by the KOIBs (ballot processing complex), counting votes for the “right” candidate, massive bribery of voters, and “cloning” of candidates popular from Nizhny Novgorod who chose a “stranger” Side.

Also much attention is paid facts of evasion of election commissions of the Nizhny Novgorod region from checking and suppressing violations of election law committed by "necessary" candidates.
Only the direction of materials to the CEC of the Russian Federation yielded results: according to the results of the verification of the election process of the Governor of the Nizhny Novgorod Region in 2014, the then Chairman of the CEC V.E. Churov admitted the existence of mass violations, ...

“It seems that the violations of Russian law committed by the election commissions of the Nizhny Novgorod Region, in particular the tendency to form fictitious polling stations and to hide their organizers from responsibility, are very dangerous ...

Against the backdrop of an increasingly difficult socio-economic situation, they pose a threat of increasing tension and increased confrontation in society.
https://kprf.ru/activity/elections/153516.html

Do you think that this happened only in the Nizhny Novgorod region?

[Botanologist]

Quote: vladimirZ

“Correctly” tuned KOIBs (a complex of processing of ballots) counting votes for a “correct” candidate,

Sorry, this is nonsense. I worked with KOIBs, and I dare to assure you - it cannot be "tuned" at the PEC. From the word GENERAL. Several people are already serving time for curiosity like "how it works."

Quote: vladimirZ

“Cloning” of candidates popular with Nizhny Novgorod who chose the “alien” side.

This is a common technique, it is used by all parties, including the Communist Party. He met in the elections more than once.

Quote: vladimirZ

Do you think that this happened only in the Nizhny Novgorod region?

Of course not. Mordovia, Chechnya, Belgorod, and a dozen more regions. This is especially true in rural areas.

But as for the Communist Party - well, she didn’t blunt, she didn’t shine. Moody mr. EP, of course, also not from sugar, but tried to crack.

[Witness 45]

Well done, trying.

[vanavatny]

what there ,, darling ,, she stinks for a long time

[Al1977]

Quote: vanavate

what there ,, darling ,, she stinks for a long time

And what do you think smells of roses? Or are you a marginal who believes that you don’t need to vote, everything was bought there and so on. Then the point is to read about politics?

[vanavatny]

in the elections, I write obscenities across the ballot because I don’t understand the difference in these talking asses, costing the budget like a new frigate and coming to life just before the elections, there is neither strength nor power nor decency and nothing is dependent on this expensive booth, return the item against all : why am I, as a citizen, deprived of the opportunity to speak in the elections?

[Al1977]

Quote: vanavate

across the ballot I write obscenities because I don’t understand the difference in these talking asses, costing the budget like a new frigate and coming to life just before the election

Then what are the questions for the authorities? I don’t care who comes, but she doesn’t care what you think about her.

[vanavatny]

and what kind of power does the Duma have? paperwork? or here is just a little more, one more election and the very same will come

[user]

Then what are the questions for the authorities?

At least no one will use his ballot; this is his right.

[Al1977]

At least no one will use his ballot; this is his right.

Remember in the movie Office Romance "I'm not sorry for the paper. Our paper industry is doing great." )))
They have these bulletins, like a fool wrappers)))

[Aspid 86]

They do not use the ballot and do not need it, could vote for the alternative that was announced at the polls. I didn’t. And the flock of EP came and voted, everyone who was dissatisfied, but stayed at home or messed up the ballot just poured their vote into the toilet, thereby supporting disciplined voters of opponents. We sit on the opera evenly and writhe from ourselves as creative scammers of ballots further.

[Dormidont2]

Choose the people of Edrisnyu (Putin with Chubais-Vekselberg-Dvorkovich, etc.) or the People’s Party of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, consisting of academics, professors, engineers, and workers

[Al1977]

Quote: Dormidont2

or the Communist Party’s People’s Party, which includes academics, professors, engineers, and workers

Something I didn’t notice that at least one deputy would get excited from the investigation of Seagulls, Peskovs, offshore, etc. .. They sit quietly on the pope and vote as they say in the Kremlin))) The same is the opposition to me .. To whom is the opposition? AT LEAST they were against Putin? AND???? That's why it is SYSTEMIC, which is part of Putin’s system.

[Witness 45]

Or maybe because they were not excited because the whole undertaking with a journalistic investigation was another provocative attack, you know what is the oldest profession akin to the profession of a journalist?

[Was mammoth]

Quote: vanavate

in the election I ...

And automatically, so vote for EP

[vanavatny]

Well, let's imagine that tomorrow Zyuganov’s got the majority, let's imagine that they are becoming tough opposition (and how else?) to the executive branch, demanding the deprivatization of nationalization and anything else, then what’s the political crisis? how do we get out of it? return the point against everyone - At least this will allow us to adequately assess the attitude of citizens to all these talkers

[Dormidont2]

against all, that means you are for anarchy

[vanavatny]

this means that there are no people in the Duma who represent my interests

[EvgNik]

Quote: Dormidont2

against all, that means you are for anarchy

Not on your nelly. It only means that the list does not contain the one for which I would like to vote.

[EvgNik]

Quote: vanavate

return the item against everyone: why am I, as a citizen, deprived of the opportunity to speak in the elections?

This item was deleted so that most did not select it. Apparently we are not considered trustworthy.

[Cat man null]

Quote: EvgNik

This item was deleted so that most did not select it. Apparently we are not considered trustworthy.

By the way, no one forbids you to spoil the forms .. What exactly would the clause "against all" give you?

That's just interesting

[cast iron]

Is it really not clear that "against all" is a protest towards the candidates presented. If from year to year the candidates are the same and they are sick of them, why not change everyone?

[bondarenko]

The party should not smell, but WORK for the good of the people.

[SveTok]

It's a shame for the Bear to roll up to the handle, at the expense of pensioners trying to raise something unbeknownst that maybe it’s worth reviewing the pensions until the train leaves. Yes, and special wish Kasyanov do not hang your nose, take off further, you clearly have acting talent.

[jetfors_84]

I do not even consider Edro a party. It looks more like a club "by interests" with the motto "if you want to stay at the trough - join united Russia".

[dogens]

Further ... the Communist Party of RUSSIA today does not have universal authority among the people of RUSSIA ... so it needs to be updated in a modern way, it is necessary to find ways to the souls of people of different faiths, lifestyles, worldviews ...
and how to do it she must find herself.

It seems to me that the Communist Party, on the contrary, tried to renew itself too much and it turned out that it was stuck between capitalism and socialism. The author has links from the program

building in Russia of renewed socialism, socialism of the XNUMXst century.

In my opinion, a rather pathetic attempt to modernize. Socialism cannot be new or old. It may or may not be. Here, either for the people, or for capital. How do you update this?

In general, I walked around the Internet, came across a Communist website (I probably won’t get banned for links and names), looked, read, and you know, I got such a strong feeling that the last ideological communist died with my grandfather, it seems. The forum chatter, dust, advertising and you can’t say what people are for the international and the friendship of peoples.

[bondarenko]

But in the Soviet Union, under the communists, he drank, ate, slept and enjoyed life and did not cry out - how to live to retirement.

[Goga101]

The same LYOKHA - Well, Mr. Volodin worked his thirty shekels - spat at the Communists, what's so surprising? It is profitable, and most importantly absolutely safe ... I just really would not like to read this kind of cheap "order" here on VO, but apparently it will have to - elections, they are elections

[bondarenko]

Or maybe EP announce self-dissolution.

[vanavatny]

when the bees come out on a demonstration against honey and the blacks are expelled from Africa

[gergi]

It’s time for Medvedev to ....! Now about the communists. They had an empire created by Stalin, had power, a powerful army, and special services. ALL AROUND ALL !!!! Now what are you going to crap? Russia? Will we survive this? Maybe well them on x ..! With their idiotic experiments on living people? Or let them still steer? How much can I mock? It is necessary to drive these reptiles in the louse.

[cast iron]

And then Medvedev and Chubais do not conduct experiments on you? Do you really like the promise of the capitalist gentlemen and financially disenfranchised slaves that provide billions to the capitalists?

[vladimirZ]

In the current political situation in Russia, there are only 2 options and no others.
The first is the further destruction of industry, the economy, the impoverishment of large masses, under the leadership of the liberal party of oligarchs and officials of United Russia.
The second is to try, under the leadership of the Communist Party (Communists), their real program aimed at infringing upon the interests of raw oligarchs and super-rich, to recreate a socially just state controlled by the people.

There are no other options. All other parties, associations, fronts for the erosion of the votes, for dusting the brains of people.
LDPR - about the "United Russia", created and existing for the "descent of steam" of popular discontent with the bourgeois capitalist power, always voting in the State Duma on issues of principle together with the United Russia party.
"Fair Russia", also "United Russia", meaningless, including defectors from other parties, and voting at the same time as "United Russia".
President Putin V.V. is trying to create something now. with "The National Front", but this is also from the same song.

There are still a lot of people who want to ignore the elections, not go to vote, "tear up the ballots", who are dissatisfied with everything and everyone. Their votes, through manipulation of the electoral voting mechanism, are transferred to the party of power "United Russia".
I hope everyone remembers the scandalous video with the CEC data on the overpriced turnout of voters in a number of western regions, and the most striking data on the Rostov region - with a turnout of 146%, and essentially with ballot box stuffing for power-holding.

So choose either for the oligarchs and officials, their party "United Russia" or for the people and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (communists).

[your1970]

And where do you see Communists in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation? Yes, real communists wouldn’t even sit next to her in the field .. They get money from the oligarchs, millionaires are in the party, Zyu is a monument to himself in general ... They are socialists with a slight bias, no more. they need to win at least a real program and a change of leadership. But in reality, everyone expects nationalization from the Communists, they are Communists! And this is a redistribution, and they do not want it much ... By the way, in 90 they already had a majority in the Duma, and to what sense?

[vladimirZ]

And where do you see the Communists in the Communist Party? Yes, real communists are with her ...
- mine1970 (1)

And what do you think should be communists? In leather jackets, with Mausers on their sides?
Nonsense, times go by, time changes, so do the Communists. As the classics said: "Marxism is not a dogma, but a guide to action" in accordance with the current social and social conditions of the formation in which it operates.

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation has a real program for overcoming the systemic crisis, into which Russia was driven by gentlemen from the liberal United Russia party.

The program includes formation of the country's development budget instead of the "United Russia" economy budget, due to a number of specific activities, including:
1) the adoption of a progressive scale of taxation, which the rich and oligarchs, together with United Russia, are so zealously opposed,
2) the introduction, always existing earlier, of the state monopoly on the production of alcoholic beverages,
3) the nationalization of raw materials and a number of other industries, which is now the feeding trough for most oligarchs,
4) deoffsherization of the economy,
5) the revival of industry due to its new industrialization,
6) the creation of a government of public confidence,
and more

As you can see, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation sets as their task the nationalization of a number of industries, and not like the privatization of the remnants of the state industry that is currently being carried out by the liberal United Russia.

The Communist Party has never had a majority in the State Duma, neither in the 90s nor later. In this you are lying brazenly. Most have always been with liberal parties.
The maximum number of seats in the State Duma of the Communist Party was about 30%, a little more, but this is not the majority.
The majority now belongs to the liberal United Russia, which has an absolute blocking number of votes, more than 75%.

[kit_bellew]

Quickly watched the video and nifuya did not understand. Where is the program?
In 1917, Lenin had a clear program. The Cheka and the Red Guards stood behind the slogan "Land for the peasants, factories for the workers". The landowner does not want to give the land to the people working on it - he gets a bullet in the forehead as an alternative. The same applies to the bourgeois manufacturer and the priest, the then ideologist.
Today, many say that Lenin received money for his activities from the German General Staff. Well received, yes. But the bottom line is that he directed this money to solve specific problems: land - to the peasants. The current Communist Party takes money for its existence ... where? Do they live on membership fees? very good I doubt it. And their task now is not "the land - to the peasants," but "the parties - votes in the elections." They solve this problem with all their might. The United Russia is backed by the government and the oligarchs. You can hate them as much as you want, but today they are real power. Medical, so to speak, fact. And who is behind these clowns?
In the United States, two main parties - Republicans and Democrats - are, so to speak, the political face of two powerful industrial and financial groups competing with each other from the creation of the world (from the formation of the United States ) We have no two or more there are no factions representing real power. Grouping is one. I’m almost sure that all our parliamentarism is financed from one source. All without exception. Smart people are well aware that all this boltology in real affairs is only a hindrance. But without it it is impossible - there will immediately be foreign advocates of democracy, publicity, pluralism and other turbidity.
Now about the "program" of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. She, of course, lays a balm on the tormented soul of a simple hard worker. BUT! It was drawn up without taking into account the fact that the Russian Federation is a country the loser The third world (cold) war. Without taking into account the understanding that we are a country economically dependent on winners. That this dependence is registered by law. To undo this dependence legally is practically unrealistic. I do not believe that Papa Sue is not aware of such subtleties. All this can be understood by carefully studying at least the current constitution. It is in the public domain (constitution.ru). And if so, then in fact they offer us a frank lie. Just like the whole election system, it's an outright lie. We vote for the party, but in Dupu Duma on modest deputy salaries fall specific people, about which voters do not know a damn thing. At least once there was an honest man who proposed in the conditions of a rat reduce salaries of deputies and officials. Horseradish! What are they doing? They raise the world-eaters retirement age. And from the point of view of accounting, this means that world-eaters will receive their world-eating money from the budget for five years more. This is not to say that they set their own salary.
IMHO must vote for the abolition of "democratic" institutions to such and such a mother. And the freed up labor force - for potatoes.

[bondarenko]

Sir, you do not know the history of your homeland (if you have one). Take the trouble to find out how she got to her feet in the 20-30s, now of the last century. And without any help from outside!

[yuriy55]

Quote: kit_bellew

Quickly watched the video and nifuya did not understand. Where is the program?

You do not need to look quickly. You need to think fluently. Here they talk about the production of goods in the country with the help of Russian producers, in contrast to the "edros" who rely on high oil prices ...

[gladcu2]

yuriy55

There are two things.

Desire and opportunity. The Communist Party, quietly blathers about desire, having no opportunity and not even understanding what to do.

This is criticism. There are no answers to this critk.

[arnulla]

In the video, who is sitting to the left of Zyuganov? Is he also for the people?))) Well, well ...

[Corporal Valera]

Quote: vladimirZ

And what do you think should be communists? In leather jackets, with Mausers on their sides?

In 93, the left wing was cleaned up, and in the framework of what was left, they created a new, like, left wing, which is correctly called the liberal-communist party of the Russian Federation. Has everyone forgotten the 96 election? Or how the Communist Party in the swamp of Maidan? I vote for them myself. From hopelessness. But real communists are not like that! Forced to agree with your opponent.

[your1970]

vladimirZ
Good program :
1) the adoption of a progressive scale of taxation, which the rich and oligarchs, together with United Russia, are so zealously opposed,
3) the nationalization of raw materials and a number of other industries, which is now the feeding trough for most oligarchs,

Paragraph three contradicts the first - if nationalized feeder then sorry with what oligarchs to take a progressive tax ?? !!! Our oligarchs are the bulk of the very same industries that need to be nationalized, and after nationalization, money bye-bye, and at the same time by the way the money of investors bye-bye, because to invest money in the nationalized industry no one will

2) the introduction of the state monopoly on the production of alcoholic beverages, which had always existed before, was already what ended up in 1985 — correctly moonshine, BF-2, and other surrogates. And now, in conditions of corruption, it will be even worse

5) the revival of industry due to its new industrialization, is there a way ?? Do they know it ?? What everyone needs to know, no one knows how-even if you throw money confiscated from the oligarchs (p. 1 which contradicts p. 3), the population already a little bit wrong - for the fog in the taiga will not go ...

6) the creation of a government of public trust - and now to conduct a survey here in VO - to whom do people trust? So there will be such confusion and sway that my mother does not grieve

“The Communist Party has never had a majority in the State Duma, not in the 90s or later. In this you are blatantly lying. Liberal parties have always had a majority.
The maximum number of seats in the State Duma for the CPRF was about 30%, a little more, and this is not a majority. "- The State Duma of the 2nd convocation of the CPRF 31,38%,, the ruling party, so to speak at that time, "Our Home-Russia" -14,6%, so LIE - YOU.
Taking into account all the opposition parties, the Communist Party had more than 50% of supporters.
Or do you need to like the Communist Party-99,9%?

[Witness 45]

No need to be cunning, the program clearly states that the raw materials industries and the basic industries are subject to nationalization, let the entrepreneurs work in the rest and pay taxes in fairness, and BF-m did not end 1985 because there was a state monopoly on the production of alcohol but because in the government there were idiots who created an artificial shortage of alcohol in trade, because they began to cut down vineyards.
The Communist Party had 31%, is that the majority, and the rest who are also communists? No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence.

[your1970]

"nationalization is subject to the raw material industries and the basic industries of the economy" -
-and the rest are apparently terrible oligarchs, level: three shops, two stalls .. Or you can call sel / household oligarchs, they are also not fundamental ... Who exactly were they going to tax with such taxes ?? raw or basic ..

The Politburo of the halfwits ??? some kind of innovation

"The Communist Party had 31%, is that the majority, and who are the rest, also communists? No need to cast a shadow over the fence."

List of fractions of the State Duma of Russia 2 convocation
Faction Number of deputies Percentage
Communist Party of the Russian Federation 139 31,38%
Our home is Russia 65 14,67%
Liberal Democratic Party of Russia 49 11,06%
Apple 45 10,16%
Deputy group "Regions of Russia" - independent deputies 44 9,93%
Deputy group "People's Power" 41 9,26%
Agrarian Deputy Group 35 7,90%
Non-factional deputies 19 4,29%
Informal group “Democratic Choice of Russia” 6 1,35%

At that time, + 2 groups of total 48,54% adjoined the Communist Party of the Russian Federation
К ruling Our home-Russia "+ 1 group total 24,6
between them LDPR and Yabloko wandered
2 superiority is not enough for you?

[Rivares]

Quote: vladimirZ

The program includes the formation of the country's development budget instead of the "United Russia" economy budget, through a number of specific measures, including:
1) the adoption of a progressive scale of taxation, which the rich and oligarchs, together with United Russia, are so zealously opposed,

1st point I neighing !!!
If in 17 Marxists abolished one of the first punishment for homosexuality, then here the first paragraph (the first Karl!) The introduction of capitalist laws aimed at the inability of an ordinary person to use their talents! For Vladimir
in the USA and Germany, oligarchs and rich people have already introduced this law and it has been in force for many years! The essence of the progressive scale is for a certain group of elites not to have problems with NEW more effective forms of owners that can throw them off ...

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Rivares

If in 17 Marxists abolished one of the first punishment for homosexuality

Not aware of this. In the USSR, there was a very harsh punishment. But, I remember a note in Pravda, then still Soviet, that one of the first discussions in the mayor's office was Sobchak's topic of homosexuals.

Quote: Rivares

... the introduction of capitalist laws ....

Oh yeah!

[Rivares]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Not aware of this. In the USSR there was a very severe punishment.

But in the history of the revolution you will not find it quickly. Initially, at 17 it was canceled. And then Stalin at 30 introduced him back. If it had not been canceled then there would be no reason to introduce it back. One of the silent pages of the revolution.
By the way, what about m-da-ah-ah? The rich have much more opportunities to avoid progression, otherwise they would not be rich)))

[gladcu2]

Rivares

A change in taxation does not lead to progress. This is not even a temporary measure. This is just a storm in a glass of milk.

The principles of the system need to be changed. It is necessary to make the capitalist become a friend to the worker.

This is a tricky number once turned. But there was a super corporation. Compared to which modern oligarchs are small owners.

[Rivares]

Quote: gladcu2

The principles of the system need to be changed. It is necessary to make the capitalist become a friend to the worker

Firstly, society is not divided into only 2 classes in relation to tools)))
2 classes is parasitic primitivism. Where do you take the military, peasants, managers, the clergy? Why friend only to the worker? And the military, the peasant, the doctor ??? Where does such an obsession with greed like he’s rich come from? This is the worldview of a thief and a criminal. Maybe it's time to contribute to the poor so that they can gain wealth through their labor? The truth is then nothing arrogant to the fiery revolutionary from the robbery of the rich)) I am afraid in this case the revolutionaries will greatly decrease ...

[gladcu2]

Rivera's

The division into classes in relation to the means of production is a classic. This is according to Marx.

You will not enter your terminology. And then no one can understand you.

Greed is for everyone, for the rich and for the poor.

Capitalism is a system that pumps money from the pockets of many into the pockets of units. And thereby comes to its natural end, the crisis, when there is nothing left to download.

Therefore, we need a further transition to a new system that would lead a person to development.

[Rivares]

Quote: gladcu2

You will not enter your terminology. And then no one can understand you.

Quote: gladcu2

Therefore, we need a further transition to a new system that would lead a person to development.

A new system needs new terminology. And the rest I agree.

[gergi]

These talkers always spoke correctly, the land to the peasants, the factory workers, peace be upon the peoples! All na.ali! Now they sing again sweetly. Let's believe, once again on a rake from all over! And suddenly this time it doesn’t hurt. KPRF-bunch tripi.donov!

[gladcu2]

Vladimir

On item 3.

And that the Communist Party already has an army? But those who own property possess.

So, what is next?

[jPilot]

The trouble is that for some reason from the distant 1917s someone set the slogan SHOULD NOT BE RICH as the main goal of overthrowing the bourgeoisie. After all, the Bolsheviks raised the people so that there were no beggars, the poor, but there was SOCIAL EQUALITY. It was then that the program "crashed".
Regarding the change of leadership of the Communist Party, I completely agree, it is time to withdraw new faces. Zyuganov is clearly not drawn to the presidency. And millionaires .... if these millions are honestly earned, why not !? Everything flows, everything changes, there is nothing perfect in this world. And the ideas of the existence of society as well.
In this regard, the Chinese fellows ......

[kit_bellew]

Quote: jPilot

And millionaires .... if these millions are honestly earned, why not !?

Honestly earned millions ... the dream of naive Soviet citizens of the late eighties How do you imagine honestly earned millions? Even if you are the owner of a large successful enterprise, you have all the millions in business: you need working capital, you need to constantly upgrade fixed assets, you need to provide workers, and ideally, families of workers, you need, in the end, expenses for peer and industrial espionage as well as counter espionage. Where do the extra millions come from? Millions are earned by the enterprise, not by you personally.
We all know one such honest millionaire. He has not just a lot of money, he just has a lot of money.

[Mordvin 3]

We have honest millionaires. Vadim, for example. It is necessary to push him to the polls. Let them agree, otherwise we’ll ban it. He sits there, a little lower.

[Witness 45]

Are you so naive, you believe that you can honestly make millions? No matter how outstanding and talented a person is, he is nothing without the rest of the "gray" mass, and millions can be obtained only through an unfair distribution of the produced product among the members of the collective, using the rights of a private owner to the means of production.

[Mordvin 3]

What is sarcasm, you know? Do you see a smiley? And there is no need to explain to me here about the "gray mass", tk. I myself am a particle of this mass, like the absolute majority.

[user]

and what is the power of the Duma?

By the way, the law on drones before the 3rd reading was silently corrected by a member of the Communist Party, and everyone voted without reading. But now everyone does not know what to do with it. I mean, membership in any party means absolutely nothing to them.

[Witness 45]

Well, Lenin also did not shun capitalist Morozov from receiving money in order to come to power. And the fact that they, the current Communists, to put it mildly, are not very active, that’s why we ourselves are to blame, if 70-80% would vote for them, and if not 100 people, one hundred thousand would come to their meetings, then and they would have increased militancy. And so, if you follow the conclusion that suggests itself from the author’s article, you must either vote EP again or not vote for anyone, which essentially means supporting the same EP.

[your1970]

Based on your position, the USSR would not have collapsed: the whole country went to rallies and voted 99,9% for the Communist Party ....

[SERGEY K. N]

You are completely right! Everyone needs to vote, otherwise everything will remain the same.

[nemec55]

The trouble is that in fact we have no one to vote for.

[vanavatny]

therefore the question arises: what the hell do we need is a herd of voracious scum? For ,, play democracy ?, lawmakers,, animals

[arnulla]

And what, the Communist Party for the people? In words, yes. But in fact? But in fact, representatives of the Communist Party roamed after the last election in the swamp. Ile already forgotten? There is currently no party in Russia that I would vote for without a doubt.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: arnulla

But in fact, representatives of the Communist Party roamed after the last election in the swamp.

You have probably forgotten that the Bolotnaya demonstration was against election fraud. And there were a lot of honest people. But when the "swamp" was saddled by the liberals, it was already different.
I am far from being a liberal, but I go to Echo. Recently there was material about the elections in Tatarstan, more precisely, about violations and crimes of election commissions and about the "blindness" of the authorities.

[Vadim237]

The destruction of industry was in the 90s, and under United Russia industry went up, along with agriculture, factories are being built - as an example, this year in the Urals they will open the largest plant in Russia for the production of polymeric materials, rubbers and plastics and tax deductions. will give about 100 billion rubles.

[Al1977]

Quote: Vadim237

The destruction of industry was in the 90s, and under United Russia, industry

Yesterday, the Minister of Industry said that we have a production level of 91 years. This is the result of Putin’s work for the entire period.

[Vadim237]

Our ministers say a lot of things - and sometimes they themselves do not understand what they are saying - "The economy is experiencing negative economic growth" - they blurted out at a government meeting.

[Goga101]

Al1977 - The Minister lied, for the whole time of the Russian Federation it was not possible to reach the level of the RSFSR (just 91years)

[Al1977]

Quote: Goga101

Al1977 - The Minister lied, for the whole time of the Russian Federation it was not possible to reach the level of the RSFSR (just 91years)

With him, shots were shown from an interview with Khristenko, his predecessor, so he promised in 2014 we will come out on top in the production of cars and provide ourselves with medicines by 90%)) So this is called continuity) And if you listen to Tkachev ... then he generally a storyteller, and Ragozin to them there too.

[Vadim237]

In agriculture, they just came close to the 1990 indicators, and in some they surpassed - this is a fact

[Al1977]

Quote: Vadim237

In agriculture, they just came close to the 1990 indicators, and in some they surpassed - this is a fact

Chicken stores are almost all domestic. This is a really, really good indicator. Well, against the background of others. Australia manages to get us meat ... and finally we have provided ourselves with chicken, but this is already good.

[Vadim237]

The whole world buys something each other and we are no exception, the same thing for pork as chicken, now in Russia the number of pigs has reached 37 million.

[Cartalon]

Where that bird is interesting in 90 was even I don’t remember her

[Mordvin 3]

They killed our chickens in 90. Type salmonellosis. But then Bush with his legs overwhelmed the whole of Russia. By the way, more than half of the eggs, from which the chickens are later obtained, come to us because
mound.

Quote: Cartalon

Where that bird is interesting in 90 was even I don’t remember her

[Vadim237]

And here in more detail about how much harvest was collected for 2015. http://mcx.ru/documents/document/v7_show/32787.395.htm.

[Goga101]

Vadim237 - It is not necessary to lie at all in a blatant lie, - "... under United Russia, the industry went up ..." - is that with what fright? Look at the graphs - a stable decline in industrial production ... well, yes, in February-January, the Ministry of Economic Development "discovered" an increase of as much ... by 1%, which is not at all a fact, knowing what Ulyukaev is, who will believe in this percentage?
And no new factories will change the situation - the system needs to be changed, and of course those who execute this "system" by the entire financial and economic block of the government together with the Central Bank.
As in the classic joke: "... If a brothel burns out, you don't need to change the furniture, you need to change bl ... th ..."

[Vadim237]

And how much industrial production fell 5-6% for me - the same catastrophic drop for me, they just started releasing less, because the demand fell - today fell, tomorrow took off - the market economy is a wave of growth and fall - if you are stuck in the USSR it's your Problems.

[Your friend]

Quote: Vadim237

And how much industrial production fell 5-6% for me - the same catastrophic drop for me, they just started releasing less, because the demand fell - today fell, tomorrow took off - the market economy is a wave of growth and fall - if you are stuck in the USSR it's your Problems.

Here is an analysis of a market economy !!! At least you should write a doctorate in economics.

[Vadim237]

And what did I write wrong? I’ll tell you without analysis after 4-6 years, GDP will go up. I’ve noticed such a thing since 2008, as soon as the crisis begins, super experts come out and everyone starts whining - that the economy is over, that we urgently need to do something, they offer their own solutions to problems coupled with absurdity - this is the power to blame, it must be demolished - everything’s like that impulsive screams, and as the crisis comes to naught, their publications are becoming less and less, since 2014 these guys started to climb out again - their rhetoric is an impulsive effect on problems.

[IS-80]

Quote: Vadim237

I’ll tell you without analysis after 4-6 years, GDP will go up.

Why such confidence?

[Vadim237]

Four years were chosen from the 2008 crisis, from this we will be chosen about the same - the crisis will pass, everyone is focused on this.

[Vadim237]

In our country, two months ago, the Ministry of Finance discovered 1 trillion rubles of money not spent - which should have been spent in 2015.

[Rivares]

Quote: Goga101

The system must be changed

Yes, it is not necessary to change the system, the Jews in the government need to change)))

[Vadim237]

Our main problems are not with the government, but with local officials - across the country.

[Old]

"... If a brothel burns out, you don't need to change the furniture, you need to change bl ... th ..." - A good slogan! must be hanged in front of the election commission.

[Botanologist]

Quote: vladimirZ

under the leadership of the Communist Party (Communists), their real program aimed at infringing on the interests of raw oligarchs and super-rich, to try to recreate a socially just state controlled by the people.

When did this infringement of interests lead to prosperity? The Communists had an experience of infringement of interests since the 1917 of the year. And somehow everything is ambiguous.
And look at the list of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation — there are so many oligarchs there. I worked at the Communist Party several times in the elections — well, very non-poor people are going to infringe on the interests of the oligarchs. Somehow I do not believe in their sincerity.

Quote: vladimirZ

Liberal Democratic Party - about the "United Russia", created and existing for the "descent of steam" of popular discontent with the bourgeois capitalist government

You are a little mistaken. The LDPR was when the OVR did not become a party, and there was no EP in the draft either. Yes, and it was created a little for other purposes. Do not fantasize.

Quote: vladimirZ

I hope everyone remembers the scandalous video with the CEC data on the over-voter turnout in several western regions, and the most striking data in the Rostov Region - with a turnout of 146%, and essentially with ballot box stuffing for power-holders.

Do you know how GUS think? Try to insert the numbers into any formula in the exel, and you will have all the data danced until you specify the denominator. So do not make idiots out of election commissions. The numbers rule a little differently, and 95% on PECs.

In general, study the materiel, and then reason.

[gladcu2]

Vladimir

The Communists have not a program, but a declaration, not a road, but a direction.

So how are you going to realize the power of the people?

Next time, start from there, otherwise you can read about everything else.

[Akuzenka]

Not a single current party has created ANYTHING positive for the country!

[smel]

Ugly expressed dear.
It may be expressed and ugly, but I also got the impression that the author went over in his assessments and conclusions. Apparently a huge number of articles still affects the quality of the material presented. And it’s not worth trying on this site to impose their beliefs on others. Here, the reading public has enough education, knowledge and beliefs to determine their own priorities.
For me personally, EdRo is unacceptable for selection. How much a ball in the Duma rules, but for the electorate did not give anything useful. So ...

[Same lech]

Apparently a huge number of articles still affects the quality of the material presented.

I agree ... there is such a problem on HBO.

Offer an alternative so that all forum users are satisfied.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: The same Lech

Apparently a huge number of articles still affects the quality of the material presented.

I agree ... there is such a problem on HBO.

Offer an alternative so that all forum users are satisfied.

Committee January 25, with Strelkov at the head. True, they will not go to the polls, because Igor Ivanovich, as a person who knows the system from the inside, considers them to be absolute profanity

[IS-80]

Quote: Stirbjorn

Committee January 25, with Strelkov at the head. True, they will not go to the polls, because Igor Ivanovich, as a person who knows the system from the inside, considers them to be absolute profanity

Here they are, the saviors of Russia. The heroes, the giants of thought, the fathers of Russian democracy. Are you kidding me? This is your so-called alternative if it gets to power, which, however, is extremely unlikely to ruin the country even faster than the patented liberals.

[BecmepH]

Committee January 25, with Strelkov at the head.

Here I am all interested in the question: "Americans are spinning in Yoburg, and what is Strelkov diving around there?" After all, he was offended, and touchy people are capable of anything ...

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: BecmepH

Committee January 25, with Strelkov at the head.

Here I am all interested in the question: "Americans are spinning in Yoburg, and what is Strelkov diving around there?" After all, he was offended, and touchy people are capable of anything ...

He was in Eburg a year ago, to see a fuse in his soul so much that you still see it there

[Aleksander]

Quote: smel

Apparently a huge number of articles still affects the quality of the material presented. And it’s not worth trying on this site to impose their beliefs on others.

The quality of the article is good, as always. The author "disassembled" the program of the Communist Party and showed it populism and emptiness (a program like "for all good versus all bad" ) without imposing anything on anyone.
Everyone has the right to write their own article on VO with their own vision ..

[IS-80]

Quote: Aleksander

The quality of the article is good as always. The author "disassembled" the program of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and showed its populism and emptiness (a program like "for all the good against all the bad"), without imposing anything on anyone.
Everyone has the right to write their own article on VO with their own vision ..

Show me a party program that does not suffer from this.

[Aleksander]

Quote: IS-80

Show me the party program that this does not suffer.

Everyone suffers, but not to the same extent. WHAT is this beast: "building in Russia of renewed socialism, socialism of the 21st century"? Maybe all sorts of" isms "(it is not known which ones) will be enough?

[IS-80]

Quote: Aleksander

Everyone suffers, but not to the same extent. What kind of beast is this: "the construction in Russia of a renewed socialism, socialism of the XNUMXst century"? Maybe all sorts of "isms" will be enough (it is also not known which ones)

You are the same as capitalISM not satisfied? But somehow I do not have any mood at all to return to the slave system.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Aleksander

What kind of beast is this: "the construction in Russia of a renewed socialism, socialism of the XNUMXst century"?

This is called "bug fixing". Or is it better to regard the communists as orthodox, stupid fanatics?
At least the attitude towards religions. It is difficult for me to imagine a "savvy" communist not an atheist, but I think that now there are openly believers in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. A more tolerant and respectful attitude towards religions, towards other opinions. This is probably not enough.

[SERGEY K. N]

Not without it)))

[siberalt]

The Communists speak a lot and correctly. It is hard to disagree with their arguments. But always listening to them, the main question remains - what to do? No answer. But the Communist Party of the Russian Federation at least has a clear idea, unlike the others.

[dogens]

Quote: siberalt

The Communists speak a lot and correctly. It is hard to disagree with their arguments. But always listening to them, the main question remains - and делать then what? No answer. But the Communist Party of the Russian Federation at least has a clear idea, unlike the others.

I have a different question. Say what they say, but make what?
What they say is wonderful. Today, the Communist Party is a timely created brand for the needs of the people. The older generation, veterans, ideological people will die sooner or later, and you will be surprised how in the absence of a consumer, either Zyuganov will disappear from political life, or you will not expect to enter another, less socially minded party.
Listen to this. I briefly. From life.
I am basically a representative of the younger generation. By profession, lawyer. I have little relation to peasants and workers. However, I got socialist views from my grandfather, a Soviet Polkan by nature, permeated with the idea and faith in his country to the bone. It still amazes me that he never scolded the authorities at all. He lived in a country that was given as if by order. There is an order to live in the USSR, I execute. There is an order to live in the Russian Federation, I execute. Man of the world. It’s hard not to get an idea from him.
Once, I decided to direct my free time for the benefit of society. Become an assistant deputy for a small allotment. Deputy from the Communist Party. I came to them (with the Deputy with this sign, and there are two more assistants to an experienced peasant from the belly of those who were eating) I say, I can consider complaints, write letters, give answers, give people answers, legally solve problems.
I look at them. My first question is from one of the pot-bellied helpers:
“Why do you need this?”
Well, at least beat me, don’t believe me, but the Soviets really are closer to me than the Russian Federation, although I lived under the Soviets much less, and at a less conscious age. How can a person with an idea ask such a question? Or no idea?
“Well, I would like to develop practice, to participate in public life.” I say.
And in response to me:
- They won’t pay you anything, you know the deputy aides, it’s not for you to work in commerce. Take our idea, make a contribution of 1% of income, join the party of the Communist Party, then they say we'll see. I don’t understand, I have a business, this one (I don’t remember the name of the second assistant) has a business, why do you need these public principles? It’s better to find a second job for yourself and do not waste time on attendants.
By the way, all three are supposedly with a legal education. You can’t tell by faces and conversations))). But I understood the essence of the communists in this sector. One has a business, the second has a business, and apparently everything in the assistants is not for the idea. I don’t know it can be otherwise in other places, but personally these Communist Party members of mine created the image of capitalist-minded communists. As they say that there are no communists in the communist parties, I immediately recall these three faces)
And as I wrote above, I somehow went to a website (communal newspaper) to the Communist. Cool cover. You go to the forum and understand that the Communists are not there. It's a shame comrades!)))

[dogens]

Quote: siberalt

The Communists speak a lot and correctly. It is hard to disagree with their arguments. But always listening to them, the main question remains - what to do? No answer. But the Communist Party of the Russian Federation at least has a clear idea, unlike the others.

And I'm sorry, carried away, the essence of history. The idea on paper for more than 20 years, without implementation, inspires distrust. This is my opinion.

[Old]

Yes, you are one hundred percent right! The Communist Party-these are opportunists fed by power. Like LDPR, like SR.
All these choices are a show for fools. Everyone had the opportunity to be convinced of their "transparency")) By the way, both in the USSR and in the Komsomol and in the CPSU at all levels were hypocrites, honest and decent survived. It was these activists who, by the way, were at the helm of privatization, as the most cunning ones (it is enough to study the biographies of our oligarchs).
I do not like the power system in Russia. I understand that the same people have been sitting in power for decades. They are overwhelmed and they don’t need anything. All this objectively slows down the development of the country. But I'm afraid of someone from the current opposition coming to power. Need an authoritative personality.

[Al1977]

Quote: Old

But I'm afraid of someone from the current opposition coming to power. Need an authoritative personality.

What for? Putin's rating is 82%. Is this not an authoritative person?

[Al1977]

Quote: siberalt

The Communists speak a lot and correctly. It is hard to disagree with their arguments. But always listening to them, the main question remains - what to do? No answer. But the Communist Party of the Russian Federation at least has a clear idea, unlike the others.

It is embarrassing that they have already built communism. It took a very long time to build, they also said "wait" and all that. And they came to what they came to. What is the guarantee that it will work out a second time? Maybe communism is not ours? And how to relate to the fact that the most successful countries in the world, on the contrary, shy away from communism.

[dogens]

Quote: Al1977

It is embarrassing that they have already built communism. It took a very long time to build, they also said "wait" and all that. And they came to what they came to. What is the guarantee that it will work out a second time? Maybe communism is not ours? And how to relate to the fact that the most successful countries in the world, on the contrary, shy away from communism.

Someone who "cheerfully" overcame the 90s and capitalism is difficult to build, and it may also seem not him. The question is not the idea, but the people who implement it. Today we have neither capitalism builders, nor communist builders, we do not have power in power. So we hang out as it is not clear what, between ideas, with a socialist past, but not having a normal capitalist present.

[Bayonet]

Quote: siberalt

But the Communist Party of the Russian Federation at least has a clear idea, unlike the others.

Everyone has enough ideas, but the programs for their implementation

[The black]

The political program of Parnassus in the form of a naked, sorry, backside of a “person similar to” Mikhail Kasyanov and his sincere speeches during a “personal meeting” with a colleague (of the “opposite” sex) by non-occupation are clear and understandable

... From now on, the party Parnassus is renamed into the party PORNOS

[Kos_kalinki9]

.Now the party Parnassus is renamed the party PORNOS

Maybe better so-P ORNO- (S), although your name also likes.

[Altona]

Quote: Black

..Now the party Parnassus is renamed the party PORNOS

-----------------------
On Twitter, they offered themselves PORN-ACC. In fact, you will probably still have to vote for the Communist Party. Just from the absence of other solid parties in the electoral field. The protest potential in the last elections was already large, about 52-58% versus 42-48% of United Russia. I say data on 2 sites, in one of which I was an observer, and site 2 was just in another wing of the school ... Well, it was roughly 10 meters before it. The information was processed and voiced, I was a witness.

[avva2012]

Quote: AltonaThe protest potential in the last elections was already large, about 52-58% versus 42-48% of United Russia.

In my opinion, the authorities are well aware of this. EP may not shine. There was already such a party, "Our Home Russia" was called. Where is she?
And, if I’m not mistaken, the Prime Minister also headed it.
There is an option that the President can make a maneuver in the form of organizing something new in the near future: "Home, ours, United Russia," for example.
Perhaps it will support the CP or, scary to say, the Communist Party.
In our country, there are no two financial and industrial groups that would accumulate the country's main assets. Therefore, there is no "democracy". The prestige of power rests on a person. To the President. V.V. Putin. And whoever supports attacks on the President in one way or another is either naive or does not want anything good for our country. There will be no President with his authority, and everything, all power will become unstable and the system will collapse. We are not America with its FIG "South" and "North". Our enemies know this very well and beat them for sure.

[vanavatny]

like a popular front at the last ,, reluctantly, announce that it is going to the polls, save the fatherland, fight in the name and against - in general, everything is as always

[avva2012]

Quote: vanavate like a popular front at the last ,, reluctantly, announce that it is going to the polls, save the fatherland, fight in the name and against in general, everything is as always

Perhaps the front. The organization is, the name is. It remains to find a charismatic leader and that's it, the party is ready.
Without a coup, then "everything is as always." We have no choice. In the United States, before their civil war, how many years have passed? Plus, without the English capital and groups representing it, it was not done. We have 25 "democracies". The territory, especially the USSR, where the party nomenklatura, having retired, competed with the noble tea grower, who could earn 40 thousand in a season. I'm not even talking about the shadow business.
Imagine a situation where in the country there is an unreadable number of multidirectional forces, groups, clans. Someone united by a commonality of financial interests, someone national, someone else what. And in this cauldron, is there no leader? Did you really like EBN times?
Pocket parties with a strong leader in the country, this is currently the only thing that can be. Alternative?

[gergi]

And the MEMBERS of this party are now PORN!

[VP]

Translate, plz, from your Potsikovsky. Who licked someone, who would take care of, and why someone should care, will you go to the polls or not.

[Volodin]

Quote: Bath

the author seems to edinorossam relish licked))) just do not go to the elections proved Zanusy

Mr. "Banny", well, just like the Western whistleblowers about "Putin's 60 billion": "looks like", "probably", "maybe", "maybe ...".

If Banny had read the article at least diagonally, he would have realized that there would be materials about the programs of other parliamentary parties. Although to whom I say this, Mr. Banny still does not go to elections, he simply does not give a damn about the country and its future - he proved everything for himself to “Zanusey”.

[Alena Frolovna]

Bath
I don’t go to the polls, he who drives up and up reads, he wins the elections, it’s proved Zanusey

[Oorfene Deuce]

Quote: Volodin

materials will be about the programs of other parliamentary parties

This is really interesting. I hope for the impartiality of the material and objective analysis.

[igor67]

Quote: Volodin

Quote: Bath

the author seems to edinorossam relish licked))) just do not go to the elections proved Zanusy

Mr. "Banny", well, just like the Western whistleblowers about "Putin's 60 billion": "looks like", "probably", "maybe", "maybe ...".

If Banny had read the article at least diagonally, he would have realized that there would be materials about the programs of other parliamentary parties. Although to whom I say this, Mr. Banny still does not go to elections, he simply does not give a damn about the country and its future - he proved everything for himself to “Zanusey”.

Yesterday, according to the First, they did not skillfully excuse themselves from the "Panama case", the president again did not know, and what was wrong with that, is it Poroshenko, isn't it funny to listen to that? And also the President of Vneshtorgbank: "Mr. Putin was not involved in scams"
publication time: April 4, 2016 13:03 pm | last updated: April 4, 2016 13:03 PM blog printable photo
Vladimir Putin and Andrei Kostin
Andrey Kostin, president and chairman of the board of VTB Bank (until 2006 - Vneshtorgbank), gave an interview to Bloomberg Television, during which he commented on the investigation carried out by a number of publications and organizations based on the leakage of materials from the Panamanian law firm Mossack Fonseca that that Russian President Vladimir Putin is associated with offshore transactions worth about $ 2 billion with the participation of people from his "inner circle."

Kostin called this information "nonsense" and argued that "Mr. Putin has never been involved in a scam."

"No one has proven that Mr. Putin had anything to do with this, because his name is not there. Putin's acquaintances have an offshore business, but what's wrong with that?" - said Kostin, answering the presenter's question about the possible impact of the leak on VTB's business. He also denied allegations that VTB, through a subsidiary in Cyprus, issued unsecured loans to a close friend of the president, says NEWSru.com.

According to journalists, in 2008-2013, transactions worth $ 2 billion went through the Sandalwood company, registered in the Virgin Islands. As noted by the Vedomosti newspaper, it follows from the company's reports that in 2010-2012 it received a credit line for $ 650 million from VTB's subsidiary bank - Russian Commercial Bank (Cyprus) (RCB) without collateral and repayment schedules.

[Same lech]

the president again did not know what was wrong

2 billion are charged with PUTIN WEST
(I will die laughing now) ...
our president, who thinks globally on the scale of half the globe, does not engage in such nonsense ... too small for his figure.
Further ... PUTIN always calculates his moves one step ahead of the opponent ... therefore, this stuffing about offshore makes me smile .... amateurs.

[igor67]

Quote: The same Lech

the president again did not know what was wrong

2 billion are charged with PUTIN WEST
(I will die laughing now) ...
our president, who thinks globally on the scale of half the globe, does not engage in such nonsense ... too small for his figure.
Further ... PUTIN always calculates his moves one step ahead of the opponent ... therefore, this stuffing about offshore makes me smile .... amateurs.

Indeed, there are two chipard lards, there are much more sums and surnames and firms, there are only more than five hundred Israeli firms, this scandal affects all countries, only everyone reacts differently, you immediately started screaming that this is an attack on the president, although he was in 2013 clearly signed the law prohibiting STAFF to eat (long list) in foreign banks

[IS-80]

Quote: igor67

Indeed, there are two chipard lards, there are much more sums and surnames and firms, there are only more than five hundred Israeli firms, this scandal affects all countries, only everyone reacts differently, you immediately started screaming that this is an attack on the president, although he was in 2013 clearly signed the law prohibiting STAFF to eat (long list) in foreign banks

Let me quote an old wise man on this matter. "You're just jealous" (c) atalef

[Same lech]

this scandal affects all countries, only everyone reacts differently

It's right...
Only VLADIMIR VLADIMIROVICH over all this kingdom of animals from above observes as the king of animals ...

for me this picture looks exactly like that ....

[epsilon571]

Igor67 today
Indeed, there are two chipard lards, there are much more sums and surnames and firms, there are only more than five hundred Israeli firms, this scandal affects all countries, only everyone reacts differently, you immediately started screaming that this is an attack on the president, although he was in 2013 clearly signed the law prohibiting STAFF to eat (long list) in foreign banks

I agree with you, let's take a closer look at this question, and answer it like that.
The leakage of information about offshore deposits of high-ranking politicians in Europe and Russia can be treated differently. The journalists' business is an investigation, but believe it or not, the prosecutor’s office. But there is still a difference in approaches, and it is quite significant. For example, in France and Belgium included in the lists, such information will be verified by legal and financial structures. Everything will be extremely open, and on legal grounds, and if during the investigation it is proved that these persons (even if they are officials) paid corresponding taxes from these amounts, then there will be no claims against them. But if not, then all these persons will be removed from filming positions in disgrace, and possibly brought to justice. In our country, however, everything is different. Information about such facts is confidential, and therefore not subject to disclosure. And when Mr. Peskov, with a million dollar watch, declares: "We are well aware of this publication, and there is nothing unexpected for us," he is very cunning. There is, and most importantly, not a penny (no-pey-ki!) Comes into our treasury from their millions, which means all these: Ivanovs; Peskovy; Ulyukaevs; Rogozins; Yakunins; and other dignitaries, scalding their Country. Moreover, this fact shows what kind of patriots they are, and what is most important for them.

The budget of the State is bursting at the seams, there is not enough money even for the most necessary things, excise taxes on fuel and housing and communal services are growing, and our leaders are getting fat and tearfully saying, looking at the People: "You are all thin, but pay your rent ...!" So.

I am not going to persuade anyone, much less convince. All of you are adults, and therefore able to analyze such things. But to the oligarchs, if there are any, I will say this - pay taxes gentlemen, damn you rich, but pay taxes, the law should be the same for everyone!

[Rivares]

Quote: epsilon571

So in France and Belgium that are on the lists, such information will be checked by legal and financial structures. Everything will be extremely open, and legally, and if during the investigation it is proved that these persons (even officials) paid the corresponding taxes from these amounts, then there will be no claims against them.

So big and believes in fairy tales!

[avva2012]

Quote: The same LEKHA our president, who thinks globally on the scale of half the globe, does not engage in such nonsense ... too small for his figure.

The dead do not need money. If our President falls from the top, then the outcome is clearly without options, lethal. If only they would build a rocket on Alpha Centauri?

[okunevich_rv]

In the case of the PROMOTION of the President by representatives of the media, including foreign ones, ignoring is similar to shy consent, like it was a little bit.
I really do not want to believe in betrayal.
Therefore, the president should be instructed to verify the information and institute criminal proceedings against him.
Call the guilty persons (slanderers) to testify and on their bunks in a common cell. :)
And all live, so that the people proud of the president are clean and blameless.
ps Joseph Vissarionovich did not acquire wealth and did not allow relatives.

[arnulla]

Who is slandering? On Putin? So there is nothing on him personally and there is something like deputies, but they have to be asked.

[kit_bellew]

Quote: okunevich_rv

ps Joseph Vissarionovich did not acquire wealth and did not allow relatives.

With all my genuine respect for the personality and deeds of I.V. Stalin, IMHO, one can compare him with contemporary political figures based on the current geopolitical situation. Do not forget that Soviet Russia won the Civil War and repelled foreign intervention at a very high price. And then Stalin was already engaged in the number of internal enemies. And he knocked out almost everyone, which allowed him to gain an even more difficult victory in the Great Patriotic War. Through these three victories, Stalin ensured genuine independence for the country and could do what he wanted. Including spitlessness.
In our interesting time, this does not work out. Independence in the Russian Federation does not smell, intervention must be fought both with external and internal. The intervention, for those in the tank, now not with Maxim's bayonets and machine guns, but with dollars and television cameras. And as you know, money is needed to fight. The Bolsheviks in the end did not disdain the elementary robberies of state and private banks for the needs of the revolution. And what about the leader of a state whose budget does not belong to this state itself? Otaka x ... nya, little ones.

[arnulla]

So such stuffing is designed for people who are not particularly thoughtful and do not know how to think at least a little logically.

[Sid.74]

Quote: igor67

According to journalists, in 2008-2013 years through Sandalwood

I'm still funny with you ...

What is sensational in the message that there are offshore companies in the world, they are given loans, and they sometimes also invest money somewhere? The sensation here is the opposite. 300 journalists for several years, operating with millions of offshore documents, did not find anything about the friends of our president, except that they take loans.

[igor67]

Quote: Sid.74

Quote: igor67

According to journalists, in 2008-2013 years through Sandalwood

I'm still funny with you ...

What is sensational in the message that there are offshore companies in the world, they are given loans, and they sometimes also invest money somewhere? The sensation here is the opposite. 300 journalists for several years, operating with millions of offshore documents, did not find anything about the friends of our president, except that they take loans.

What makes you think that this is specifically an attack on your president? Because yesterday on the First, Demidov said so in the news, the more read the head of Vnesheconombank’s head said that the money from the president’s entourage, although it’s inconsiderate, I personally see that 500 Israeli firms evaded taxes, and this is the largest amount that our former the head of state is in prison for an economic crime,

[Sid.74]

Quote: igor67

What makes you think that this is specifically an attack on your president?

But not on Netanyahu ... Liberda and demshiza directly promoted this "sensation" everywhere ... radio freedom ... all the media in Great Britain and the USA ... Germans ... and what ... some people who are apparently friends of Putin ... received from a daughter of a Russian bank credit ... that's what corruption is ... if they took money from an American, British or Israeli bank, there would be no corruption ... Where is corruption? This is capitalism.

How does this sketch differ from the statements of grandpa McCain, who has been looking for only 40, only 240 billion of "Putin" for ten years now.

Quote: igor67

Because yesterday the First said so in the news of Demidov?

You don't blame the first channel, you reprinted Vedomosti ... a newspaper that has foreign "investors".

Before 2015, the newspaper was published by the publishing house Sanoma Independent Media in conjunction with the British Financial Times and the American The Wall Street Journal (News Corporation, controlled by media mogul Rupert Murdoch). Each company owned 33% shares of the newspaper.

Currently, the owner of the newspapers The Moscow Times, Vedomosti, and Demian Kudryavtsev, Clear Communication Communication Agency. Horse radish is no sweeter.

[igor67]

Quote: Sid.74

Quote: igor67

What makes you think that this is specifically an attack on your president?

But not on Netanyahu ... Liberda and demshiza directly promoted this "sensation" everywhere ... radio freedom ... all the media in Great Britain and the USA ... Germans ... and what ... some people who are apparently friends of Putin ... received from a daughter of a Russian bank credit ... that's what corruption is ... if they took money from an American, British or Israeli bank, there would be no corruption ... Where is corruption? This is capitalism.

How does this sketch differ from the statements of grandpa McCain, who has been looking for only 40, only 240 billion of "Putin" for ten years now.

Quote: igor67

Because yesterday the First said so in the news of Demidov?

You don't blame the first channel, you reprinted Vedomosti ... a newspaper that has foreign "investors".

Before 2015, the newspaper was published by the publishing house Sanoma Independent Media in conjunction with the British Financial Times and the American The Wall Street Journal (News Corporation, controlled by media mogul Rupert Murdoch). Each company owned 33% shares of the newspaper.

Currently, the owner of the newspapers The Moscow Times, Vedomosti, and Demian Kudryavtsev, Clear Communication Communication Agency. Horse radish is no sweeter.

http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/305223 Вот вчерашний выпуск новостей с Демидовой,

[avva2012]

Quote: igor67 As noted by the newspaper "Vedomosti", from the company's reports it follows that in 2010-2012 it received a credit line for $ 650 million from VTB's subsidiary bank - Russian Commercial Bank (Cyprus) (RCB) without collateral and repayment schedules.

I here introduced:
Pledge: Russian Federation.
repayment schedule: 5 and 20, .... I will, I swear by my mom!
And, especially, I like: According to reporters,
Capitalists, Democrats with the letter x! Law "On the protection of personal data" No. 152-FZ, they do not!
Igor! Are you a fan of the new religion: Free Press?

[igor67]

Quote: avva2012

Quote: igor67 As noted by the newspaper "Vedomosti", from the company's reports it follows that in 2010-2012 it received a credit line for $ 650 million from VTB's subsidiary bank - Russian Commercial Bank (Cyprus) (RCB) without collateral and repayment schedules.

I here introduced:
Pledge: Russian Federation.
repayment schedule: 5 and 20, .... I will, I swear by my mom!
And, especially, I like: According to reporters,
Capitalists, Democrats with the letter x! Law "On the protection of personal data" No. 152-FZ, they do not!
Igor! Are you a fan of the new religion: Free Press?

Why are you all taking up arms, I am a supporter of the law, it is said loudly, once again I will write the president is sitting with us, the prime minister is sitting, the ministers are still sitting, here they started a criminal case against the minister of internal affairs, the funniest thing he was was the ministry of internal affairs and served term for fraud. In 2013, the president signed a law prohibiting civil servants from having money abroad, or civil service or business, again, I don’t care about your civil servants and your country, if you think that they can violate the law, please, this is your right

[avva2012]

Quote: igor67 the president is sitting with us, the prime minister is sitting, the ministers are still sitting, here they started a criminal case against the minister of internal affairs, the funniest thing was he was the minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and had served time for fraud

Igor! Honestly, we are not laughing. If the President sits with us, then most of the country will lie down. And, no longer get up.
We would have your problems with the criminal element.

[Oleg Monarchist]

Quote: igor67

Why are you all taking up arms, I am a supporter of the law, it is said loudly, once again I will write the president is sitting with us, the prime minister is sitting, the ministers are still sitting, here they started a criminal case against the minister of internal affairs, the funniest thing he was was the ministry of internal affairs and served term for fraud. In 2013, the president signed a law prohibiting civil servants from having money abroad, or civil service or business, again, I don’t care about your civil servants and your country, if you think that they can violate the law, please, this is your right

Are you a supporter of the law? Do not make me laugh. Although he may also be a supporter of the "law according to Mr. Vyshinsky." And here in Russia, one of the fundamental principles of the law is the presumption of innocence and the unsuspecting person must prove his innocence, and the judicial and investigative authorities must prove his guilt. Also, all information and evidence obtained without court sanction (if such is required to obtain them - telephone conversations, mail perlustration, information from banks, searches of homes or premises carried out without court sanction) are considered illegal. And in your liberalism, any blunder towards Russia is considered legal and final in advance.

[Vadim237]

You yourself believe in this rubbish for the lapushar - the story is the same - earlier Putin "found" 20 billion in foreign accounts, and now, somehow modestly - only 2.

[Oorfene Deuce]

Excuse me ... I'm not a "putinoid" ... It is interesting to hear reasoned answers from the authorities. Corruption, everyone suffers from it, and oh God, even a black man in the White House ... No one will tell you the truth.

[jPilot]

And why, dear Alexey, on the diagonal, did not begin your "unbiased" analysis with the program of the party led by the very first liberalist of Russia Dimochka Medvedev. Yes, yes, I'm talking about United Russia !? After all, she is the "FIRST" type in the rating at the previous elections.
Do you know why? Because there is nothing to analyze there. And for all the years of this "party" in power, practically nothing has been done. So it turns out that your article fits exactly the action reflected briefly and succinctly by Banny.
And where does Banny say that he does not go to the polls, do you seem to have problems with knowledge of the Russian language? For I WILL NOT GO AND DO NOT GO. It has different meanings.

[Goga101]

Volodin - Well, this article is clear who paid, but it’s interesting
- "... there will be materials about the programs of the other parliamentary parties ..." - that is, EP is also in the "others"? there will also be an article about their "program" - eh? Or no one will pay for such an article?
The prime minister here recently announced the "program" of EP ... , so after listening to him, you will go to the communists involuntarily, although so far neither the CPSU nor the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - "I have never been"

[Andrey Yuryevich]

The communists are certainly not a "cake" already, but the author could have walked through all "our" parties ... about United Russia, you can also find a funny thing ... well, look at the "members" of the party with a smile .. ...

[Sid.74]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

about United Russia, you can also find funny

Andrei Yurevich, this manifesto is fake ..

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Sid.74

Andrei Yurevich, this manifesto is fake ..

Shhh, don't reveal the mystery

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Sid.74

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

about United Russia, you can also find funny

Andrei Yurevich, this manifesto is fake ..

this one, yes, and this one no! http://edinros.narod.ru/manifest.html but the same amount has been done ...

[petr petrov]

The Communists, of course, would change the leader, well, for example, on Udaltsov.
I think a second wind would open ...... !!!!!!
In general, everyone needs to go to the polls ........ and vote for anyone except thieves and crooks ...... Especially in light of the latest offshore scandals .... !!!!!

[Al1977]

Quote: Petr petrov

In general, everyone needs to go to the polls ........ and vote for anyone except thieves and crooks ...... Especially in light of the latest offshore scandals .... !!!!!

"The owners' staff covers" will mince you without explanation)))) You can only scold liberals here, not our ALL)) Peskov said that there are no offshore companies, and he bought a watch for 5 kopecks, they must believe and brand the whistleblowers)))

[Wayna qhapaq]

The regular cover-ups of the owners will capture you without explanation)))) - Udaltsov - a clone of the Federal Republic of Germany Andreas Baader of the 70s (RAF), which has nothing to do with the Communists.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Petr petrov

.and vote for anyone other than thieves and crooks ..

I would vote for Lee Kuan Yu, but he unfortunately died ...

[Blondy]

I look - the author is good at commenting on bare asses, but somehow it went wrong with the analysis of programs. I looked at Zyuganov's report - it was about collegiate enterprises and a pro-progressive tax, and about medicine and about education with science, but apparently these turned out to be too complex matters for analysis and passed the author's attention. So, it seems to me that the most effective intellectual efforts of the author can be used precisely in the analysis of sites of known "heavy" content.

[Sid.74]

Quote: Blondy

I looked at the report of Zyuganov - so there about collective enterprises and the progressive tax, and about medicine and about education with science

And Comrade Zyuganov regularly meets with Teft ... and on the first of May of that year, Zyuganov praised President Obama from the podium, who, for a moment, initiated sanctions against Russia .... implemented the Maidan in Kiev ... arranged a bloody massacre in Syria ... there are very bad thoughts about such communists.
I am already silent about Udaltsov’s support ... as soon as a criminal case was brought against Udaltsov, Zyuganov immediately disassociated himself from him .... what is this, stupidity, political myopia?

[Igor39]

Just the facts: Putin has been at the helm since 2000, with all kinds of governments and he himself was in the government, the result: a living wage of 10000 with copecks, a minimum wage of 6000 with copecks !!! Hooray comrades !!! This is victory!!!
But we are leaders in billionaires for 5 years !!

[Vadim237]

In our country, not everyone lives at a minimum.

[Your friend]

Quote: Sid.74

And Comrade Zyuganov regularly meets with Teft ... and on the first of May of that year, Zyuganov praised President Obama from the podium, who, for a moment, initiated sanctions against Russia .... implemented the Maidan in Kiev ... arranged a bloody massacre in Syria ... there are very bad thoughts about such communists.

Pretend, and our president regularly meets with Obama, Merkel, Oland ... oh my god, he even met with Poroshenko, there are some bad thoughts about such patriots and guarantors.

[Sid.74]

Quote: Your friend

Count up, and our president meets regularly with Obama, Merkel, Oland ...

Do you think that the position of the President of the Russian Federation and the party head of the State Duma is the same?

You understand how stupid the "communist" Zyuganov looked when he praised the liberal Obama, who not only doubled the US national debt, but also initiated the bombing of seven countries (fucking peacemaker) who pulled out a lot of money from the US economy in order to save several banks and their greed.
Although Obama said - we will not feed fat cats, lied a reptile.

Communists try not to talk about Donbass at all, since they immediately receive an accusation of transferring lands together with Russian people to the obedience of a fictitious country. The blasts admit there are no mistakes, it will happen then, oh my God, Lenin was wrong.

The problem is, in general, in Zyuganov ... that Udaltsov, that the Communist Party protests about the voices allegedly taken from them, which ended only pshikom.And they all have it, for PR of yourself loved and only yourself, but put to the position of the younger not fate ... and the party will die with Zyuganov in the chair.

Infinite populism — land to peasants, plants for workers, Lenin is alive, rename Volgograd to Stalingrad and so on. Openly already enrages.

It will be the same with "Fair Russia" because without "Rodina" it is just zilch, because apart from the struggle for free parking and loud speeches about foreign exchange mortgages ... I have not seen anything else in their activities.

Damn two, they'll get my vote.

[Your friend]

Quote: Sid.74

Do you think that the position of the President of the Russian Federation and the party head of the State Duma is the same?

Ahahahaha ..... This is a question you ask yourself. Kindergarten.)))

Quote: Sid.74

You understand how stupid the "communist" Zyuganov looked when he praised the liberal Obama, who not only doubled the US national debt, but also initiated the bombing of seven countries (fucking peacemaker) who pulled out a lot of money from the US economy in order to save several banks and their greed.
Although Obama said - we will not feed fat cats, lied a reptile.

What kind of nonsense are you writing ??? What does the US national debt have to do with it ??? Our president pledges with Poroshenko, whose soldiers and by whose order they shoot at civilians in the Donbass. Our president pledges with Obama, with the assistance and by whose order the killings took place and are taking place in Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq ...
Against the background of our guarantor, in this regard, Zyuganov’s meetings with the American ambassador look pale.

Quote: Sid.74

Damn two, they'll get my vote.

Don’t vote for them, we have a free country, everyone votes for whoever they want. Truth always wins United Russia.))))

[dogens]

Quote: Your friend

Quote: Sid.74

Do you think that the position of the President of the Russian Federation and the party head of the State Duma is the same?

Ahahahaha ..... This is a question you ask yourself. Kindergarten.)))

Quote: Sid.74

You understand how stupid the "communist" Zyuganov looked when he praised the liberal Obama, who not only doubled the US national debt, but also initiated the bombing of seven countries (fucking peacemaker) who pulled out a lot of money from the US economy in order to save several banks and their greed.
Although Obama said - we will not feed fat cats, lied a reptile.

What kind of nonsense are you writing ??? What does the US national debt have to do with it ??? Our president pledges with Poroshenko, whose soldiers and by whose order they shoot at civilians in the Donbass. Our president pledges with Obama, with the assistance and by whose order the killings took place and are taking place in Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq ...
Against the background of our guarantor, in this regard, Zyuganov’s meetings with the American ambassador look pale.

Quote: Sid.74

Damn two, they'll get my vote.

Don’t vote for them, we have a free country, everyone votes for whoever they want. Truth always wins United Russia.))))

In short, your interlocutor told you that Zyuganov is a communist who is hiding with the head of the capitalist country, who in his social policy (that is, in the direction of the people, that is, something that could at least cleanse the leader of the Communist Party) did not He showed the same line of pleasing the rich, to the detriment of the middle and poor.
The main message. Communist Zyuganov makes loud statements with his actions. Accordingly, he discriminated against himself. By the way, I also think so. Although I do not support

There is no courage to admit a mistake; it will turn out then that, oh my God, Lenin was mistaken.

I did not understand what exactly your interlocutor had in mind, and what exactly Lenin was wrong about. It seems to me that Zyuganov and Lenin, in principle, are incompatible personalities, it is unlikely that Zyuganov closes in the bathroom at night and quietly, but bitterly, cries from the impossibility of realizing the precepts of Ilyich in Russia.

[Your friend]

Quote: dogens

In short, your interlocutor told you that Zyuganov is a communist who is hiding with the head of the capitalist country, who in his social policy (that is, in the direction of the people, that is, something that could at least cleanse the leader of the Communist Party) did not He showed the same line of pleasing the rich, to the detriment of the middle and poor.

Eeeee, all the heads of the USSR hobbled with the heads of the cap. country. The head of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), Stalin, sat quite at one table and smiled at Russophobe Churchill. Communist Molov pledged with the Nazi Ribentropov. Etone says that Stalin became a Russophobe, Molotov a Nazi, and Zyuganov an imperialist capitalist. What does Obama’s domestic policy in the USA have to understand only to you and sid74.

Quote: dogens

The main message. Communist Zyuganov makes loud statements with his actions. Accordingly, he discriminated against himself. By the way, I also think so. Although I do not support

What is the "main message" and where does it differ?

[dogens]

Quote: Your friend

Quote: dogens

In short, your interlocutor told you that Zyuganov is a communist who is hiding with the head of the capitalist country, who in his social policy (that is, in the direction of the people, that is, something that could at least cleanse the leader of the Communist Party) did not He showed the same line of pleasing the rich, to the detriment of the middle and poor.

Eeeee, all the heads of the USSR hobbled with the heads of the cap. country. The head of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks), Stalin, sat quite at one table and smiled at Russophobe Churchill. Communist Molov pledged with the Nazi Ribentropov. Etone says that Stalin became a Russophobe, Molotov a Nazi, and Zyuganov an imperialist capitalist. What does Obama’s domestic policy in the USA have to understand only to you and sid74.

Quote: dogens

The main message. Communist Zyuganov makes loud statements with his actions. Accordingly, he discriminated against himself. By the way, I also think so. Although I do not support

What is the "main message" and where does it differ?

The fact that the party for the Communist Party is the same source of income as for EdRa. Whoever knows how to adapt. It's just that the Communist Party has relied on people who support the old regime, retrogrades. And EdRo is trying to "accustom us to a new reality", civilized as in the West, but with its own specifics. But even these two directions are only fiction. Only an advertising brand. And the interest behind the brand is monetary. Is there an idea of ​​communism in this? No.
In order to debunk our idea of ​​the thieving of politicians, fundamental changes must take place. Both EdRo and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation must carry out real active work aimed at earning political capital. We carry out such work only before the elections. The peak of activity begins. And all the shafts suddenly become an opposition. And those who care for people, remember about people. And then for the accumulation of political capital, he "supports" the policy of the capitalist head, which is not socially directed by the way. Communism? Socialism? No. There is no need to compare, wartime, Stalin, and in general the heads of state, who are entitled to diplomatic visits by status. In addition, if you remember Stalin, pay attention to Stalin's harsh attitude on many issues. All the same, Stalin bent the policy of the Soviet people.
Look and Castro met with Obama. Feel the difference between Zyuganov and Castro?
Please tell me what the Communist Party is really doing outside the election. What projects is she promoting? What activities are carried out and what are their results? No. Only words and statements. Paper reports. appearances and photo stories. Chatter with reporters. As in other games. The only thing that distinguishes Zyuganov from other parties is the letter K in the name of his party. And if he abruptly changes course, change his mind and show us (as an electorate) commitment to the idea, I don’t think I will check the box next to the Communist Party.
I repeat once again. I am a retrograde (on the issue of the collapse of the regime). I am for advice. I neither like the morality of people in the Russian Federation, nor the prospect of our moral decay in the Russian Federation. I am for the attempts (at least attempts) to recreate the friendship of peoples, social equality and communism. I am for the fact that we do not have a bureaucratic country, but a country that belongs to the people.

[Sid.74]

Quote: dogens

I did not understand what exactly your interlocutor meant, and what exactly Lenin was wrong about.

The Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic (DKSR) is a Soviet republic proclaimed on the territory of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog basin (February-March 1918 of the year) as autonomy within the RSFSR.
In March, 1918 of the year, it was announced that the republic’s territory would be incorporated into the Ukrainian Soviet Republic (the final liquidation of education occurred in February of 1919).

[dogens]

Quote: Sid.74

Quote: dogens

I did not understand what exactly your interlocutor meant, and what exactly Lenin was wrong about.

The Donetsk-Krivoy Rog Soviet Republic (DKSR) is a Soviet republic proclaimed on the territory of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog basin (February-March 1918 of the year) as autonomy within the RSFSR.
In March, 1918 of the year, it was announced that the republic’s territory would be incorporated into the Ukrainian Soviet Republic (the final liquidation of education occurred in February of 1919).

I understood you. But this has little relation to Zyuganov and Lenin’s ideas. You can take any mistake of our rulers. Believe me, not a single good will remain. Only those who are not studied beyond the memory of time will remain. But they will also dig and look for negative.
Well, it became part of the USR. Good. Lenin contributed. Okay. Probably there was a motive, and not for beautiful eyes. Tell me, how many rulers followed, who could change this but not change it? What is the question for Lenin? Or did followers also have motives that we don’t think about?
I don’t know if our ruler gave Alaska to the USA, is it good or bad? After all, the motive was washed at least as a logistic one, and the people were yelling that the lands were squandered. And in your case, a conversation about changing administrative boundaries within one (indestructible as it was then thought) Union. Why is Ilyich mumbled for this?

[dogens]

Quote: Your friend

Don’t vote for them, we have a free country, everyone votes for whoever they want. Truth always wins United Russia.))))

They are simply luckier than the rest. They have charisma and strong magnetism of election ballots.

On the other hand, you are part of this free country. Do not vote for EdRo. And if you want to go further, create a social movement of the desired and accepted color and direction. Start your active work. Then create a party. Become a candidate, deputy, president. Change our free country.

[Your friend]

Quote: dogens

Quote: Your friend

Don’t vote for them, we have a free country, everyone votes for whoever they want. Truth always wins United Russia.))))

They are simply luckier than the rest. They have charisma and strong magnetism of election ballots.

On the other hand, you are part of this free country. Do not vote for EdRo. And if you want to go further, create a social movement of the desired and accepted color and direction. Start your active work. Then create a party. Become a candidate, deputy, president. Change our free country.

Oh my God!!! Who do you take me for ??? I am for United Russia !!! Glory to EdRu !!! Glory to Putin !!! And then write me down as opponents of the regime .... But how did you even have a similar thought ... disgrace !!!

[dogens]

Quote: Your friend

Oh my God!!! Who do you take me for ??? I am for United Russia !!! Glory to EdRu !!! Glory to Putin !!! And then write me down as opponents of the regime .... But how did you even have a similar thought ... disgrace !!!

I would be happy to support your movement, if you had the right ideas. By the way, I did not say that you worship EdRu. I can’t know this principle. Just posted a more active thought.

[gergi]

In your opinion, does our president have to Obama immediately to knock on a tambourine at a meeting and impose on his mother? Then he will be a patriot? Grandfather's garden. Think think, not what you are used to.

[gergi]

And your Zyuganov, is he the president of Russia? When did your shoot happen? Protect its ceiling, beds from the raven, and not control Russia. Potato bubukalo.

[gergi]

This is a normal communist meanness. On that stood and will stand. Communists, what are they? He will first pray in the church, for one part of the electorate, and then blow it up, for the other part. Lish would again break through to the feeder, losing comrades in battle, such as the bastard Udaltsov.

[Volodin]

I am glad that my, as you put it, "intellectual efforts" made you want to get acquainted with the program of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in more detail and gave you a minute of political educational program.

[Igor39]

- We did not want to eat cheap bread, meat, lard, sausage, and the Communists forced us to eat high-quality and cheap products.

- We did not want to receive free housing, and the Communists forcibly instilled us in comfortable apartments.

- We did not want cheap utilities, and the communists forced us to pay 8 rubles for a two-room apartment, and 12 rubles for a three-room apartment.

- We didn’t want to study for free, and the Communists forced us to receive secondary education and free of charge, and they paid for a higher scholarship.

- We did not want to be treated for free, and the Communists forcibly treated us in polyclinics and hospitals.

- We did not want to pay a symbolic penny for travel in public transport (a trolley bus - 4 kopeks, a bus - 5 kopeks), and the communists forced us to ride.

“We did not want to, and the Communists forced us to work in our specialty.”

Finally, the capitalists came and saved us from what the communists did to us!

[gergi]

The communism’s demagogy was always on top. Tripi. They know how to finish perfectly. All that you listed, who paid for it? Where did the money come from? From the salaries of communes? Our silverfish? That's all for free! For free! I want to swear, but you can’t! We, the people paid for it! And yet we, the people, paid for all the perverse pleasures of the Communists. And they, graciously, allowed, or did not allow us, the people to eat an extra piece, or not to eat. To everything else, I want to add. The Communist Party of all its revenues, which were simply astronomical, did not pay taxes to the treasury, nor how much. So who paid for everything?

[Bayonet]

Quote: Blondy

I looked at Zyuganov’s report - it’s about collective enterprises and a progressive tax, and about medicine and about education with science,

The lure is for the gullible - a sweet pie

[gergi]

Zyuganov needs to lie shortly and capaciously, Lenin’s grandfather never learned anything. And then thought spreads over the tree. Every woman for a man! Each man a bubble! Every doctor is sick! To each patient a pill! And that’s it, the people vote like nice! We are all so naive, but trusting. It’s a pleasure to breed us. In 17, they divorced, why not divorce now?

[Darkness]

Point against all return?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Darkness

Point against all return?

return PUK, against all ....

[parusnik]

The Communist Party, alas, this is now a brand no more .. And in principle, there is no one to vote for .. All political parties are factions of the former Communist Party .. Gorbachev’s poshiba .. Kasyanov..type oppositionist and that one came out of this overcoat ..

[mirag2]

Zyuganov previously (about 8 years ago) spoke quite competently about the economy. Recently, he simply did not follow his speeches.

[Uncle lee]

Look at the Red Line TV channel - there is something to listen to and something to think about.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Look at the Red Line TV channel

I have enough Ukrainian media, so thanks are not needed.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I have enough media in Ukraine

Are you listening and watching them? DARKNESS!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Are you listening and watching them? DARKNESS!

But are you not sure that I often met your comments in articles about Ukraine. Hello, pass on to Zyuganov.

[Uncle lee]

I’ve never been to their sites and didn’t watch TV! Honest pioneer! I am not familiar with Zyuganov and have not met. Pass it yourself ...

[VP]

Zyuganov always spoke very roundly about the economy, in the style of slogans like "the economy should be economical" and nothing more. He never offered any solutions other than "start factories!" As if there is such a button, by pressing which you will immediately start the factories, but which no one, probably due to harm, presses.
Or "increase pensions several times!" Where the money will come from for a multiple increase in pensions has never been explained.
Most likely, if he had come to power, he would have started a printing press for the whole nonsense, having driven inflation to heaven.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: VP

It is as if there is such a button, by clicking which you will immediately launch the plants, but which no one, probably due to harmfulness, presses.
Or "increase pensions several times!" Where the money will come from for a multiple increase in pensions has never been explained.

and "United Russia" with what have backed up their "manifesto"? too- "pshykom" Even Zhirinovsky, having promised "every woman, a man" lied ... no one can be trusted!

[VP]

And nobody makes specifics in the election programs. I actually wrote because it was argued that "before Zyuganov spoke competently." Yes, he never spoke competently, especially since his audience does not really need it.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Even Zhirinovsky, promising "every woman, a man," lied ... you can't trust anyone!

Not all at once ...

[Blondy]

Quote: VP

Zyuganov always spoke very roundly about the economy, in the style of slogans like "the economy should be economical" and nothing more. He never offered any solutions other than "start factories!" As if there is such a button, by pressing which you will immediately start the factories, but which no one, probably due to harm, presses.

The last time I heard, in the field of economics I spoke about the organization and support of enterprises with a collective form of ownership, and about the introduction of a progressive tax, about the careful privatization of strategic enterprises without fanaticism, but about the economy it should be economical and I did not hear about building factories roundly.

[VP]

Quote: Blondy

spoke about the organization and support of enterprises with a collective form of ownership

LLC, OJSC, etc. have a collective form of ownership. In fact, of the non-collective ones only.
Was he going to support everyone? And How ? Or is he simply not aware of the forms of ownership?

Quote: Blondy

about the introduction of a progressive tax,

And what will it give? Any leader can draw 100 rubles of salary for himself, this will not affect his well-being in any way, but will affect tax collection.
and how much is he going to profit from this at all?

Quote: Blondy

on the neat privatization of strategic enterprises without fanaticism

Which did not cite as an example? And why didn’t he tell? What will this give the country in real life, what is now the country terribly lacking from the fact that some working enterprise is not owned by the state?
Strategic and so on in state ownership.
If he gathered every stoker ...

[Vadim237]

With nationalization, they can come to your home and say that your hut or apartment is nationalized, a request to leave this room by the agreed date is essentially the same raid capture, only official and you can not oppose it anything - the law will not be on your side.

[dogens]

Quote: Vadim237

With nationalization, they can come to your home and say that your hut or apartment is nationalized, a request to leave this room by the agreed date is essentially the same raid capture, only official and you can not oppose it anything - the law will not be on your side.

I agree, it is necessary to be more careful with the laws. You can accept what you like. But how it works and will be applied is sometimes difficult to imagine. There is such a word abuse.
There are several extremes to the issue of property distribution. The first is privatization. That which belongs to the people can fall into any hands for darm. Get Gazprom, the principle to which we have little principle. Get everything in your pocket. Politics is not considered with anyone.
The second nationalization. The fact that you hardly made money during the time of your existence will suddenly become nationalized, and belong to the documents of all the people, but in fact the Head (suppose) of the Takogoto County Land Department (the Japanese name turned out, we will assume that the official is on the Kuril Islands), who yesterday the youngest daughter got married, and she needs to live somewhere with her new husband, the son of the head of the Takogninsky police department. Who do you think has a prize on the drum?
If, take on a large scale. Then with the nationalization of an effective plant, we can get a budget black hole. That is, a plant that is not something that would effectively work and develop, but at least could support itself at a level, suddenly intercede, and will stop paying for itself. why? because it’s not necessary. Miller sits in his head. The government is a neighbor at the desk. Maintenance money comes from the budget. There will be another Gazprom, controlled by bloodsuckers.
In general, I support your message.
Nationalization is a cool thing, and right. The country is common, and not bureaucratic, which means we have acquired property together, but unfortunately today nationalization in our country can cause paradoxical excesses, arbitrary actions and undesirable consequences.
I will even say that we need nationalization, but it will only work in conjunction with a shiftable political system and mass executions.

[Vadim237]

So I’m talking about this, shares can also be taken away during nationalization, and if this happens, then they can stop investing in the country altogether.

[Vadim237]

"I will even say that we need nationalization, but it will only work in conjunction with a changeable state system and mass executions." Those new who come to the top will become the same as the previous ones - a change of system - this has already happened in Ukraine, the result is known to everyone, and began to shoot en masse all those who do not agree with this government - those who want to overthrow the government and then reap the bitter fruits.

[dogens]

Quote: Vadim237

"I will even say that we need nationalization, but it will only work in conjunction with a changeable state system and mass executions." Those new who come to the top will become the same as the previous ones - a change of system - this has already happened in Ukraine, the result is known to everyone, and began to shoot en masse all those who do not agree with this government - those who want to overthrow the government and then reap the bitter fruits.

Just without mass executions, people who come upstairs will follow the previous path with impunity. Nothing stirs in the head without shocks. So, to my regret, there must be at least some kind of action on the change in the thinking of the thieving, otherwise we really will run into a vicious circle. A change of order is necessary in order to bring all new norms of democracy into a legal state.
Do not compare with Ukraine. The change of system did not occur. There was a change of power, or rather, a change of people in power, by force capture. This is not even a revolution. So, in my opinion, talking about Ukraine in this matter is pointless.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: VP

LLC, OJSC, etc. have a colleчactive

well, well, I work at LLC, so what? The owner is one. OJSC - SahMP - several owners, the main shareholders of Muscovites and one banker, the holder of a large block of shares, were arrested and her bank was closed. These are "effective managers", and all other employees, not the owners of the enterprise. Feel the difference.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: VP

very round

I am not a 100% supporter of Zyuganov, but he has specific cases and suggestions. Therefore, I suggest listening and THINKING.

[VP]

Yes, he has no business.
This is the problem with the communists that their leader is a complete chatterbox, "Doctor of Philosophy", damn it.

[Al1977]

Quote from Uncle Lee

I am not a 100% supporter of Zyuganov, but he has specific cases.

Zyuganov against the regime "everything to Putin's friends, what will remain for the rest"? If he is FOR, then he is a simple talking head for grandmothers.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Al1977

Zyuganov against

Zyuganov for a welfare state with a planned economy and various forms of ownership. And strategic sectors of the economy should be state-owned.

[Al1977]

Quote from Uncle Lee

Zyuganov for a welfare state with a planned economy and various forms of ownership. And strategic sectors of the economy should be state-owned.

So where is his criticism of the head of state? Do you consider OPPOSITION to Putin or not? The real opposition.
And what everybody wants to live well is what any party says. And Mironov and Zhirik and Parnassus all say that they KNOW how to make everyone well. But Putin is in power and everyone is silent, because it suits them .. That's the whole joke. There are slogans, but there is life. Slogans - for re-election. But in fact they are no different from Edra. You can even put a boxer, at least a gymnast, at least an academician, all the same Putin’s decisions are ALWAYS passed.

[dogens]

Quote from Uncle Lee

I am not a 100% supporter of Zyuganov, but he has specific cases and suggestions. Therefore, I suggest listening and THINKING.

I apologize, but you just gave me hope for the future and faith in the Communist Party. Please clarify about the affairs of Zyuganov.

[Uncle lee]

I am not an agitator and have not shorthand all Zyuganov’s speeches. He spoke about successful national enterprises and the collective farm to them. Lenin near Moscow and much more. And my advice, refer to the original source. A little lower olimpiada15 highlighted all the issues ....

[dogens]

Quote: Uncle Lee

I am not an agitator and have not shorthand all Zyuganov’s speeches. He spoke about successful national enterprises and the collective farm to them. Lenin near Moscow and much more. And my advice, refer to the original source. A little lower olimpiada15 highlighted all the issues ....

But I am not an opponent of socialist ideas, moreover, they are closer to me than capitalist ones. I am simply an opponent of hypocrisy and an unfair attitude to the nursing hand, which is for ordinary deputies and candidates. Because as soon as you talk about specific cases, of course I have a logical question: What are the things? At the same time, I turned to you about specific cases. You speak on the basis of your conclusions. So please, tell me, where did you come to the conclusion about specific cases?
About the collective farm (in general state farm) named after Lenin, I will tell you as a person who has been there more than once. For those who live in Moscow time and near Moscow time, the place is famous. People there periodically dangle for strawberries.
I was there on other issues. My student lived there and in apartment conditions, there was a studio. So every time I went to the studio, the first thing that catches your eye is not ........ the size of a kindergarten, a small castle, Disney Land in appearance. If you talk with locals about local affairs, about the head, they (even the younger generation) will spit your feet several times, sneeze, yawn .... generally express their indignation and say where they saw it all. At least, those with whom I spoke then (2011-2013) treated like that. And the state farm named after Lenin, besides the name of Lenin and the name of the state farm, with Zyuganov is not enough that it has. And do not be fooled by the word state farm. This is the name. In the past, it was a closed joint-stock company, now, after changes in the Civil Code, it has probably become just AO.

[Your friend]

Quote: VP

Or "increase pensions several times!" Where the money will come from for a multiple increase in pensions has never been explained.

Maybe from those 3 lard dollars that our guarantor presented to Yanukovych and "fraternal" Ukraine? Or maybe from the money spent by officials on the procurement of state. cars for 3-5 lyamas for a thing? Or from the money that our government gave banks to "increase liquidity" and which these banks spent on speculative games with the ruble exchange rate? ...

Quote: VP

Most likely, if he had come to power, he would have started a printing press for the whole nonsense, having driven inflation to heaven.

Do you think we have small, decent inflation? Nothing that she under the rule of the guarantor was from 6% to 15%?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: mirag2

Zyuganov previously (about 8 years ago) spoke quite competently about the economy. Recently, he simply did not follow his speeches.

they are all experts, they’re such a job ...

[olimpiada15]

When Zyuganov speaks of collective ownership, he means cooperatives, i.e. members-shareholders, owners of collective property are people working in this enterprise. The team is interested in efficient management is their jobs, this is their income.
. Unlike joint-stock companies, the shareholders of which are several people who decide on the fate of the enterprise. For OJSC, the main profit, and not paying salaries, is also profit. And the attraction of migrants is generally a Klondike — there is no need to pay salary taxes to the treasury, as a result, all the funds used to pay for labor are withdrawn from the country's economy, there is no money in the funds, and for them it is profit, for the state, damage.
No one on the site is interested in ways to make the economy independent without shocks. If someone reads such comments, then no one delves into the essence, meaning of what has been said.
In the country today there are such economic processes that lead to a decrease in the population, loss of sovereignty. Is anyone interested in this? No one, everyone has a hut on the edge. We need a model of the economy, when finances will not flow abroad. And you need to do this in a smart way. When a person turns on his mind, he can find a way out of any situation. The economy can and should be made sovereign.

[dogens]

Quote: olimpiada15

When Zyuganov speaks of collective ownership, he means cooperatives, i.e. members-shareholders, owners of collective property are people working in this enterprise. The team is interested in efficient management is their jobs, this is their income.
. Unlike joint-stock companies, the shareholders of which are several people who decide on the fate of the enterprise. For OJSC, the main profit, and not paying salaries, is also profit. And the attraction of migrants is generally a Klondike — there is no need to pay salary taxes to the treasury, as a result, all the funds used to pay for labor are withdrawn from the country's economy, there is no money in the funds, and for them it is profit, for the state, damage.
No one on the site is interested in ways to make the economy independent without shocks. If someone reads such comments, then no one delves into the essence, meaning of what has been said.
In the country today there are such economic processes that lead to a decrease in the population, loss of sovereignty. Is anyone interested in this? No one, everyone has a hut on the edge. We need a model of the economy, when finances will not flow abroad. And you need to do this in a smart way. When a person turns on his mind, he can find a way out of any situation. The economy can and should be made sovereign.

And salaries in such a system will only be white, because with black meaning is lost.

[coolvoldik]

Hit the whites until they turn red!
Beat the Reds until they turn white!
And generally speaking! Anarchy is the mother of order.

[populist]

How did the party of Gennady Zyuganov, who in 1996 reconciled to the "fake" defeat of Boris Yeltsin

It is a lie that the lesion was fake.
Then Yeltsin defeated.
See the results anywhere.

[Darkness]

Staa? You at least change manuals.

[ramzes1776]

Yeltsin won in 1996 thanks to Comrade Lebed, who gave all his votes to the drunk. And then we voted for him with all the schools.

[Oorfene Deuce]

Quote: populist

It is a lie that the lesion was fake.
Then Yeltsin defeated.
See the results anywhere.

I am inclined to believe that the election of the 96th was won by Zyuganov.
There is information that this is precisely why Tuleyev (although he is still a beetle) disagreed with Zyuganov, since the latter "merged" out of fear of responsibility. In any case, this decision was made in conditions of increased secrecy.

[Oorfene Deuce]

Here is a vidos on the topic of nadybal ...

[Oleg_84]

consistently upholding the rights of people of wage labor

Yeah, the trade unions are directly flourishing under the bosom of the leadership of enterprises ... nothing has been done for the trade unions by the Communist Party - I’ll add that there is regression in this direction.
And the retail example will not help, whether it is the market or the federal network like Eldorado, Svyaznoy, MTS, etc., from there the young people get embittered and what do you think?
Would go to ... the Communist Party, when there was a problem I wrote to you = I did not receive an answer.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Oleg_84

Yeah, trade unions are thriving right under the bosom of the leadership of enterprises

The union is the right hand of the administration. And where they just parasitize. At least in our enterprise. I have long left this nitshnik. No reporting conferences, meetings. And the fact that the chairman of the union is deputy. Director (which no one chose and it’s not at all clear how he became our union boss) - generally a song!

[Bayonet]

Minus one, show me a little face! I’ve already noticed some kind of ... sculpts cons on all my comments, regardless of their content, an underground crap!

[chikenous59]

Ask Zyuganov or any other head of the party: "Why do your slogans become so eloquent only before the elections?"
So I want to ask live, look at the reaction

[midivan]

Quote: chikenous59

Ask Zyuganov or any other head of the party: "Why do your slogans become so eloquent only before the elections?"
So I want to ask live, look at the reaction

and I would look at you at this time his broom is so suspended that you’ll also leave guilty to disperse the fuck this Duma and the party and all affairs, the good of them? let the institutes compose laws, and it will be cheaper and more honest to adopt three times a year in a referendum throughout the country

[Vadim237]

After that, at the end of a verbal skirmish, Zyuganov will accuse you that people like you have ruined a great country and now our party of the Communist Party plows on a tractor to restore everything.

[chikenous59]

Quote: Vadim237

After that, at the end of a verbal skirmish, Zyuganov will accuse you that people like you have ruined a great country and now our party of the Communist Party plows on a tractor to restore everything.

Due to our lack of democracy, I probably will not get through)

[Darkness]

Grandfather Lenin, go, in the Mausoleum turns over from shame for the current follower.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Darkness

Grandfather Lenin, go, in the Mausoleum turns over from shame to

The mummy came to life

[atalef]

Quote: Darkness

Grandfather Lenin, go, in the Mausoleum turns over from shame for the current follower.

Booty to the top? Flips over? The same measure of my mind, honor and conscience

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

The same measure of my mind, honor and conscience

not holy trosh

[Your friend]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Darkness

Grandfather Lenin, go, in the Mausoleum turns over from shame for the current follower.

Booty to the top? Flips over? The same measure of my mind, honor and conscience

It would seem that what matters to a Jew, a citizen of Israel, to a dead citizen of the USSR who died 94 years ago? Ah, well, yes, internally shit does not give rest.))))

[Pvi1206]

After winning the election, the ruling party forgets about promises. As if they were not there. And does not bear any responsibility for them.
Until this situation changes, the elections will remain hanging noodles on the ears of the electorate, as those in power like to call us (and everything else too).
Unfortunately, a situation persists in which the best business is power.
Power shifts responsibility to voters: you chose us ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Pvi1206

After winning the election, the ruling party forgets about promises. As if they were not there. And does not bear any responsibility for them.

Forgive, but it is possible on points, which promises were made and which were not fulfilled.

[Your friend]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Pvi1206

After winning the election, the ruling party forgets about promises. As if they were not there. And does not bear any responsibility for them.

Forgive, but it is possible on points, which promises were made and which were not fulfilled.

http://www.ruscadet.ru/znanie/er/finish.htm наслаждайтесь)))

[PN]

And I will vote for the Communist Party and tchk

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: PN

And I will vote for the Communist Party and tchk

Well, yes, Zyuganov did so much for the country.

[Old]

Zyuganov did nothing for the country. Only harm. But power must change. It is obvious! Why should the snickering work? For them, remaining in power is a guarantee against judicial investigations. Only able to think about their own skin.

[There are a lot of us]

Well, the author, well, an acrobat! I managed to justify ... Zyuganov’s train ... Kasyanov’s support!

[EvgNik]

Before the elections, you can say whatever you want, and then - do what you want. Yesterday on the street came up with the emblem "Fair Russia". Collected signatures against fees for "major repairs". I honestly warned them that I would not vote for the joint venture, they began to play around that they were from some other organization, they just had to cooperate with the joint venture.
In general, darkness. For Zhirinovsky, whether to vote?

[rotmistr60]

The fact that the "revolutionary fervor" has disappeared in the eyes of the communists can be seen even with the naked eye. There are obviously no professional creatives. But Zyuganov is worth listening to at times. Another thing is how the Communist Party of the Russian Federation fights for its "truth"? They say a lot, but vote in the Duma as they should.

[sa-ag]

Quote: rotmistr60

The fact that the "revolutionary fervor" has disappeared in the eyes of the communists can be seen even with the naked eye. There are obviously no professional creatives.

It’s obvious that in 1996 they offered a choice, one of the ways to see was incompatible with life, and Zyuganov chose another, so now they’re showing him by the box, but Viktor Ilyukhin was a little different, so he had a heart attack on time

[Was mammoth]

Quote: rotmistr60

The fact that the "revolutionary fervor" has disappeared in the eyes of the communists can be seen even with the naked eye. There are obviously no professional creatives. But Zyuganov is worth listening to at times. Another thing is how the Communist Party of the Russian Federation fights for its "truth"? They say a lot and vote in the Duma as it should.

The Communist Party’s website is boring, as are the sites of other parties. It is clear that this is not critical for United Russia, all the state machine and TV are at their service. But, why the Communist Party of the Russian Federation does not conduct live work on its website, does not develop ideological work, debates on social issues, direct feedback is not entirely clear.
As for voting in the Duma, it’s worthwhile to see for yourself how parties vote on the Duma’s website and on what issues. I think, change your mind.
The real choice for Russia is only between a return to social development, to socialism or to capitalist exploitation. The third, "original" is not given.

[ava09]

Quote: There was a mammoth

The third, "original" is not given

To whom and by whom is it not given? The problem is that Russia abandoned the shock law and adopted the Roman one. Who, if not the government, creates the "parliament"? If VECHE or DUMA is called "parliament", the question arises: - "And the government is Russian, if not called in Russian?" Parliament "," President "," RFiya ", instead of Banner, Banner, a barcode that cannot be distinguished from the designation of the European occupied limitrophes. It is beneficial for the government to make the parliament stable? Hence the "multiparty system" from one trough. Whoever the average man "votes" for - he will vote for those who own the POWER, and today it belongs to anyone, just not " the only source of power "... The most important punishment for the people is their own lack of understanding of MEANINGS or lack of thinking.

[ramzes1776]

That the Communist Party, that the Liberal Democratic Party, etc. All of them are nourished by power. All programs on the template from the computer, compiled 15-20 years ago, where only the date changes. All kinds of clothes, these are generally clowns. It’s not even interesting to listen to anyone. Tired !!!

[31rus2]

Dear, that's the whole "charm" of our elections, that there is no one to vote for (this is one thing) and most importantly there is nothing for that, I may be in a hurry to draw conclusions, but I am sure to write and make a very big difference, I am sure of only one thing to vote for United Russia I will not, in general, on the ground, I would have introduced a completely different method of "campaigning", the candidate must do for his own money before the elections (and it went depending on the party and belonging to that part of society), and the voter will evaluate both the approach and real deeds, and then choose , so at least the real benefit will be than a bunch of pieces of paper and idle chatter. And Matvienko's proposal to return "against everyone" stuck, and it's a pity, this question needs to be raised right now in front of all the deputies

[Dynamic systems]

I am for Borodach!

[avg-mgn]

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation today is the only political organization that consistently upholds the rights of people of wage labor.

So this is the lot of trade unions. Why do you take their bread from them?

[Dynamic systems]

Quote: avg-mgn

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation today is the only political organization that consistently upholds the rights of people of wage labor.

So this is the lot of trade unions. Why do you take their bread from them?

Respected! What unions?

[Egoza]

Dear forum users! Who cares, who remembers and respects, follow the link - DO NOT READ.

Documentary film "The Economic Model of Stalin" (all series)

Source: http://politikus.ru/video/73606-dokumentalnyy-film-ekonomicheskaya-model-stalina
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Politikus.ru

[Uncle lee]

This film was shown on the Red Line channel.

[crazy_fencer]

In fact, all these Communist Party, LDPR, SR will do everything to, God forbid. elections do not win. Why do they need it? They sit in the Duma, and have every opportunity to live comfortably and to eat hearty. Not bearing any responsibility for what is happening in the country. And with a tongue to grind from the rostrum - this is not toss stones. And again I repeat: this does not imply any REAL responsibility.

[Stirbjorn]

Well, that's why Zyuganov does not concede a place to anyone, even there is no receiver. Although after 96 had to leave. And so he’s doing well, push yourself speeches on all kinds of talk shows, get at the box office

[pts-m]

The people were completely snickering, it became too lazy to think for whom to vote choosing from a dozen parties. That is earlier, at least go at least do not go. But it is NECESSARY to go to the polls, taking part in this matter, you feel like a Man and you say ... but tari, it doesn’t work without me ...

[BULLIT]

Started! United Russia has already paid! Communists to power! We will give them a chance in advance and there we will see! Worse, it won’t be a FACT !!! Putin's retirement !!!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: BULLIT

Communists to power! We will give them a chance in advance and there we will see!

They already gave you a chance, they drove for 70 years, and this ended with the collapse of the country. Thanks, no!

[31rus2]

You’re right, Alexander, but alas, Putin is moving in the same direction and this is becoming more and more obvious.

[AndreyVCh]

Somehow inappropriately, the author of the article mentioned the Communist Party, as judging by the name, it was supposed to be a non-systemic opposition, but at this time the Communist Party is not even an opposition - it is part of the existing government. In any case, I have not heard in the last 10 years that Gennady Andreevich sharply opposed state policy. The Communist Party is now very organically fit into the current system of government.
And yet: for some reason, everyone forgot about everyone beloved Zhirinovsky, so where would it be without him ?! Imagine, without Vladimir Volfovich, as without Verka Serduchka - everything is boring and dull.
That is, Zyuganov and the Communist Party, even with a stretch, can not be called the opposition, like Zhirinovsky and the LDPR. United Russia will very predictably gain its 60%, the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party, each of 15, well, just pick up something. Maybe they’ll throw something new to us, create a batch of mighty ducks or something like that.
And Parnassus is a clear outsider, it is unlikely that they will gain more than a percent.
And I do not agree with those who decided to ignore the elections, of course, each specific vote does not ultimately decide anything, but if money has already been spent on this feast of democracy, you need to consume it, so - everything for the elections

[bovig]

Quote: AndreyVCh

Somehow inappropriately, the author of the article mentioned the Communist Party, as judging by the name, it was supposed to be a non-systemic opposition, but at this time the Communist Party is not even an opposition - it is part of the existing government. In any case, I have not heard in the last 10 years that Gennady Andreevich sharply opposed state policy. The Communist Party is now very organically fit into the current system of government.
And yet: for some reason, everyone forgot about everyone beloved Zhirinovsky, so where would it be without him ?! Imagine, without Vladimir Volfovich, as without Verka Serduchka - everything is boring and dull.
That is, Zyuganov and the Communist Party, even with a stretch, can not be called the opposition, like Zhirinovsky and the LDPR. United Russia will very predictably gain its 60%, the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party, each of 15, well, just pick up something. Maybe they’ll throw something new to us, create a batch of mighty ducks or something like that.
And Parnassus is a clear outsider, it is unlikely that they will gain more than a percent.
And I do not agree with those who decided to ignore the elections, of course, each specific vote does not ultimately decide anything, but if money has already been spent on this feast of democracy, you need to consume it, so - everything for the elections

Look at the root! The opposition of the Communist Party is contained in one paragraph of its program:
- nationalize Russia's natural wealth and strategic sectors of the economy, use the incomes of these sectors in the interests of all citizens;
But she does not have the strength to turn the tide in this direction, so she is an integral part of the current system of power ...

[Killing50]

and I honestly would have been better off in the Soviets than in the shit democracy

[Old]

The article is useful because it indicates that there is no political struggle in Russia, which means there is no development. This situation is akin to the one-party system of the USSR. The whole system is based on Putin's rating. And before he leaves, he will appoint a successor and everything will continue ... There are no leaders! Everything's under control. Here is Glazyev fighting with his program, and he is not alone! But our ministers arrogantly ignore calls for discussion. And the economy is falling apart, it is almost impossible to do business. Oligarchs, officials, politicians and their servants live well in Russia. There is also the management of state enterprises. Those. only those who have access to budget funds. And the budget is filled with what? Sale of resources of the country. And here is the root of all social injustice. In fact, 10% of the Russian population rob the rest. It is necessary to change the political system of Russia! And read the slogans of the Communist Party: "for low utility rates"!))) We need a new party for a decent, honest person. There must be someone.

[Old]

But social justice is a second issue. The main thing is that there is no incentive to change something. Well, how much more Rogozin flutters? Reliance must be on the masses! And the masses of officials are essentially reactionary masses.

[bovig]

Quote: Old

The article is useful because it indicates that there is no political struggle in Russia, which means there is no development. This situation is akin to the one-party system of the USSR. The whole system is based on Putin's rating. And before he leaves, he will appoint a successor and everything will continue ... There are no leaders! Everything's under control. Here is Glazyev fighting with his program, and he is not alone! But our ministers arrogantly ignore calls for discussion. And the economy is falling apart, it is almost impossible to do business. Oligarchs, officials, politicians and their servants live well in Russia. There is also the management of state enterprises. Those. only those who have access to budget funds. And the budget is filled with what? Sale of resources of the country. And here is the root of all social injustice. In fact, 10% of the Russian population rob the rest. It is necessary to change the political system of Russia! And read the slogans of the Communist Party: "for low utility rates"!))) We need a new party for a decent, honest person. There must be someone.

Low tariffs for housing and communal services are possible only in one case, if - to nationalize Russia's natural wealth and strategic sectors of the economy, use the incomes of these sectors in the interests of all citizens;

[Old]

So controlling stakes of the largest mining and energy companies are in the hands of the state. Nationalization alone will not do anything. Funds are going to the budget now, the problem is how they are distributed! The budget has become a feeder for the elite! Something needs to be done with this.

[Same lech]

In Nizhny Novgorod, a trial was held of a previously detained Norwegian citizen Lillian Yurt and her assistant, as a result of which a decision was made to forcibly expel women from Russia.

A woman came to conduct seminars on organizing protests on a business visa ....
well ... is this possible in RUSSIA.


http://lifenews.ru/news/194852

[avva2012]

In my opinion, it makes sense to vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation only in one case, it is to show the current government that you simply cannot get into the Duma for your beautiful eyes. The only "opposition" party that, if it wins at least half of the votes in the Duma, will not engage in national treason. The party has more or less serious people (compare with the Liberal Democratic Party), at least some kind of ideology. In reality, if you are serious, there is no one to vote for. Not to go to the polls, it is in fact, "washed his hands", it seems at the present time, to betrayal. Come and vote for the Liberal Democratic Party or, God forbid, for the so-called "right", the same is not an option. I think that if there are two parties in the Duma, then this is the path to democracy, albeit in the capitalist system. All over the world, the main two parties are present, all the same in parliament. And, if, unfortunately, we have chosen the capitalist path, then it is logical to use proven experience. Parliament is a place where lobbyists work for certain interests of capital. That is, money will flow not into one pocket, but into two. Competition between parties will begin. There, you look, and we will get something.
A party will appear that can really turn to the USSR 2,0, then you can watch and vote. Although unlikely. Alas.

[bk316]

Quote: avva2012

In my opinion, it makes sense to vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation only in one case, it is to show the current government that you simply cannot get into the Duma for your beautiful eyes. The only "opposition" party that, if it wins at least half of the votes in the Duma, will not engage in national treason

In fact, this is enough to vote for them. Is not it so?

[Platonich]

Yes, Zyuganov may not have come out in person, but the program is real for the people, but edrosov has nothing to face, and the program is nothing, in the sense of no-one deception and window dressing for people!

[Crown]

The EP deputies are athletes, but artists. What can they offer to improve the economy? There should be professionals, those who are in the subject. Not a party, but a beau monde.

[Ispitatel]

The author talks about the Communist Party program, which, at the same time, have not been in power since the past year. How many edinoros already rule? Look at their program of the beginning of the century, and see what is done. Most have already forgotten what they promised, and if you recall, it becomes funny. Maybe it's time to give others a try? Although, it seems, little will change. Everyone wants money and power. I liked Pozner’s interview with Zyuganov, who asked about the receiver several times in a row, he didn’t answer, constantly trying to get away from this answer :)

[sa-ag]

Quote: Ispitatel

who asked several times about the receiver, he never answered, constantly trying to get away from this answer :)

Well, I would answer that the receiver will be "Speedola", everyone would be happy :-)

[bovig]

Continuity is akin to heredity! Where there is succession, by definition there can be no government. And at the moment, the only thing that can save Russia is:
- nationalize Russia's natural wealth and strategic sectors of the economy, use the incomes of these sectors in the interests of all citizens;
And the only program that contains this item is the Communist Party program ...
One thing is interesting to me: where are other parties going to take money to implement their programs without this item? At the IMF?))))

[Blondy]

Guys, let's try without emotion. Where are the elections? In a thought, not in a presidency. And we have a presidential republic and the executive power really rules. Well, at this stage, people perceive as their main task how to spoil EP. There are two parties behind, the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party. But they are not in everything and not everyone is happy. It seems to me that we need to decide which one is preferable for the majority, and everyone should vote for it. This will not lead to drastic changes in our situation, since everything is decided by the president, but the EP will be shameful with the elections. Moreover, now the chairman of the CEC Panfilov, a lady with a reputation and fraud was not seen.

[bovig]

Quote: Blondy

Guys, let's try without emotion. Where are the elections? In a thought, not in a presidency. And we have a presidential republic and the executive power really rules. Well, at this stage, people perceive as their main task how to spoil EP. There are two parties behind, the Communist Party and the Liberal Democratic Party. But they are not in everything and not everyone is happy. It seems to me that we need to decide which one is preferable for the majority, and everyone should vote for it. This will not lead to drastic changes in our situation, since everything is decided by the president, but the EP will be shameful with the elections. Moreover, now the chairman of the CEC Panfilov, a lady with a reputation and fraud was not seen.

For me, the Communist Party is not an ideal option and its program is far from perfect, but it is the only force that can withstand the wing of the EP. And the most terrible and dangerous point in the Communist Party program for the oligarchy and thieving officials (but not for the people!):
- nationalize Russia's natural wealth and strategic sectors of the economy, use the incomes of these sectors in the interests of all citizens;
By the way, other parties (LDPR and SR) do not have this item!
And the rest you are right - we have a presidential republic!

[rennim]

The author swept through the Communist Party for the simple reason that at the moment it is really a serious and real party which is the largest competitor to EDRO. For me, it’s enough that they have plans for democracy and socialism. But socialism itself is NOT disposed to the broadest freezing of the people for the sake of a handful of snickering capitalists. in any case, the current ones ate with their trip to nowhere.

[saveall]

Everything is true in the article said. Zyuganov’s party has been exploiting the same slogans and nostalgia of people for the Soviet past for twenty-five years. Sometimes you listen to this Zyuganov as disgusting ... Well, and how does he differ from the same deputies from the EP, who are now customary to find fault at all crossings? Yes, nothing! A warm place in the Duma for more than 20 years and a rich life is all communism. Tired of already listening. Now, I feel, all this demagogy and pouring mud on each other will begin again before the elections, well, and after the elections, there is a lot of indignation about the numerous frauds ... Ugh, what rubbish!

[urik62]

An empty article, no damn it, I will vote for United Russia, with a medical specialist in the government

[olimpiada15]

The Communist Party is a party that should be opposition in the State Duma.
Since the time of the reformers, who destroyed the country's economy and transferred the business to a small group, the ruling party has been lobbying for the interests of big business. Big business interests do not coincide with state ones. Their task is to maximize profits. The result is achieved by reducing costs: minimizing salaries and taxes. Funds received in private hands are spent on maintaining prestige - imported goods are bought, real estate abroad, placed on deposits in Western banks.
To maintain sovereignty, the state needs an economy on which external influence is impossible. Basic food products, consumer goods, medicines should be produced in the country from their own raw materials, using their own equipment, by citizens of the Russian Federation. Such an economy will provide employment, develop demand and supply, and ensure the filling of the budget.
Here is a solution to these issues and should promote the Communist Party.
Deputies from the Communist Party and must protect the interests of the people and the state. They should not have a declarative program, but a specific one. Why do not they consider housing and communal services, where it is possible and necessary to protect the interests of residents. Take the same overhaul. Actually, houses in which there is a good collection of rents that have accumulated 30% on a certain type of repair should receive an interest-free loan. Repairs are carried out, people continue to pay for overhaul, but this is a loan repayment. The money issued on credit will work for the economy, the loan will be guaranteed to be repaid, the house will not be destroyed, the state will fulfill its obligations to citizens - the houses were not completely repaired before privatization. Start with an experiment on houses that have their own account for overhaul, were subject to overhaul until 2000.
The Communist Party should show its ability to defend the interests of citizens of the country. And now it seems that in all parties there are the same people whose task is to make a personal career, why become a deputy and click on the button to please the ambitions of big business.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: olimpiada15

Communist Party is a party that should ....

Strongly said !!!

[RUSS]

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is now a controlled opposition to them and a lot of airtime is given to them on TV, no one "wets them" as, for example, Dorenko earlier "soaked" Luzhkov's "Fatherland". The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is predictable and standard therefore it is not a threat to the authorities. They will pass to the Duma - they will take the honorable 2nd place and everything will be as before .......

[Was mammoth]

Quote: RUSS

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is a controlled opposition to them now and a lot of airtime is given on TV, no one "wets them" ...

We have a special on PiArams on our site. Ask him how this is done.
Say, according to the situation in Syria - from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is present, and when they condemn the price of gas, they do not invite.
So it turns out on TV-Communist Party entirely for Putin

[RUSS]

Quote: There was a mammoth

Say, according to the situation in Syria - from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is present, and when they condemn the price of gasoline, they do not invite

I do not agree, because for example, a deputy from the Communist Party Leonid Kalashnikov is present almost at all Soloviev’s talk shows and not only Soloviev’s .....

[Was mammoth]

Quote: RUSS

I do not agree, because for example, a deputy from the Communist Party Leonid Kalashnikov is present almost at all Soloviev’s talk shows and not only Soloviev’s .....

Your right. About Ukraine, Syria, NATO, ISIS. Everything where the Communist Party agrees with the authorities. And which of these discussions was about social issues? And when was the last time you watched TV a serious discussion of social issues in Russia?

[Oorfene Deuce]

Quote: RUSS

Communist Party controlled opposition

This opinion also developed, however, as well as about the rest of the manual opposition. Zyuganov in the Communist Party, a media figure, no more ... A party of a completely different format is needed, ready not only for beautiful slogans, but also for concrete actions.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Oorfene Deuce

A party of a completely different format is needed, ready not only for beautiful slogans, but also for concrete actions.

And therefore, on TV, and not only now, they are pushing Starikov’s spiritual unity with the Communists contrasting him with the Communist Party. Looks like there is not enough resource on the SR, since a new topic has appeared

[mikh-korsakov]

Firstly, Zyuganov's program does not cause any objections. In short, the KPRF stands for all good, against all bad. Therefore, the author of the article cannot object to this. And he was asked, explicitly or implicitly! He, like everyone else, in this case says that what Zyuganov is proposing is populism. It should be clarified that populism is not from the word "priest" (from this word - this is about Kasyanov), but from the word "populus" - the people. So there is nothing wrong with the program. Another thing is how to achieve this? What does Zyuganov think that Messrs. Mikhelson and Prokhorov voluntarily shed tears and give the people "acquired by back-breaking labor." this obviously will not happen, but in the words of the same Zyuganov, the Russian people have already exhausted the limit of revolutions. Therefore, "dreams. Dreams ..." Here is who would have suggested which party agrees to embody and defend Glazyev's program in the economy. for such I would vote. well ...

[dogens]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

Firstly, Zyuganov's program does not cause any objections. In short, the KPRF stands for all good, against all bad. Therefore, the author of the article cannot object to this. And he was asked, explicitly or implicitly! He, like everyone else, in this case says that what Zyuganov is proposing is populism. It should be clarified that populism is not from the word "priest" (from this word - this is about Kasyanov), but from the word "populus" - the people. So there is nothing wrong with the program. Another thing is how to achieve this? What does Zyuganov think that Messrs. Mikhelson and Prokhorov voluntarily shed tears and give the people "acquired by back-breaking labor." this obviously will not happen, but in the words of the same Zyuganov, the Russian people have already exhausted the limit of revolutions. Therefore, "dreams. Dreams ..." Here is who would have suggested which party agrees to embody and defend Glazyev's program in the economy. for such I would vote. well ...

You can twist the terms, but here your term suggests that "populos" are promised a good life, all good in return for all bad, for 25 years, but during this time not a single real step has been taken. And to your question how to achieve this and what resources, hardly anyone is looking for an answer except you.

I remember how we had about 10 years ago, there were local elections. So began a major replacement of asphalt in the yards (!!! what a sophistication, what a luxury). For the first time I saw that next to my house, under the asphalt, Soviet plates lay, broken, with protruding fittings that the soldiers were still laying. But excavators work, workers go, dig, build, hammer, .... all the way ... Until the elections. Exactly one day after. not a single worker, not a single machine, not a single shovel. Bare concrete, sand, and no hint of the road. Exactly .... for 4 years)) That's honest. Exactly until the next. Now this is already gone, there is still control, and the Communist Party is not directly dependent on it. But the essence of political activity (regardless of the color and direction of politicians) is clear. A very illustrative example was for me.

[bovig]

The author indirectly, but clearly played along with the ruling EP!))) There is no need to be seven spans in the forehead to pull a fad out of the context of any program and drown it in verbiage, the main thing is to stay on the surface and not get into thoughtful thoughts ... And the MAIN TOP Communist Party program fad, which scares the oligarchy, and which is absent in the programs of other parties:
- nationalize Russia's natural wealth and strategic sectors of the economy, use the incomes of these sectors in the interests of all citizens;

Isn't it this fad that says that thanks to him the Army will become a nationwide one, protecting the wealth of ALL CITIZENS, and not just the interests of representatives of the authorities ("elite") in the international arena! By the way, this fad will automatically eliminate "offshorization" and significantly increase the budget, and will increase funding for social programs, including science, education, healthcare! Look at the root!

[Tired]

Zyuganov had a chance to prove that he can not only speak but also act. Zyuganov deliberately missed this chance. Accordingly, until the Communist Party is replaced by a leader, there is no point in hoping for some hope for them. United Russia is just a party in power with a touch of the Cadet party. Socialists dreaming of a monarchy and liberal nationalists close the list of parliamentary parties. All other political parties and movements are nothing substantial at all. As a result, it remains only to state the complete absence of any competitive component in any election.

[Kolka82]

After all, the question "what to do?" we are able to answer everything (and no programs are needed), but with the question “how?” already, as they say, not everything is so simple ...

Therefore, we go in, get acquainted, understand and think http://rusrand.ru/ideology/partija-novogo-tipa

[runway]

Author Volodin offers us another series about the election?
Well, why so strain? After all, everyone understands that the current ones will cling to power with both hands and feet. They understand very well that if they take power away from them, they will remain in prison until the end of their days. There, films about their racketeering and robbery of trillions of budget money will not end there.
But replacing these criminals will be very difficult. All levers for attributing the interest they need are in their hands. TODAY THEY ARE NOT AFRAID OF ANYTHING. Leeches sucked tightly.

[RUSS]

Gennady Andreyevich Zyuganov - the permanent leader of the Communist Party. It is an excellent generator of mutually exclusive paragraphs, because by type of service it pretends that the opposition is the last Don Quixote and, in general, the people's defender, being in the stake. We love our website compromisingly and fiercely sponsored by the budget. The official rogue. He has his own party, where he spent the “leader” longer than Brezhnev at the head of another party.
Zyuganov - parsley in a puppet theater, unable to listen to opponents and considers himself the best. In 1996, he betrayed all the left forces, making them a laughing stock. Everyone is already used to the fact that Gennady Zyuganov is different. An implacable fighter for people's happiness in the newspaper Pravda, on the platform of the party congress. A cautious "constructive" politician at a meeting with the president at an economic forum in Davos. He says different things, often contradicts himself. These are the rules. He is one of those who ruined the real opposition for fear of losing a warm place. He acts together with the authorities, is afraid of responsibility and does not want to win elections at any level. Because of him, there are practically no normal people in the Communist Party. To vote for Zyuganov is a waste of time.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: RUSS

To vote for Zyuganov is a waste of time.

And you do not vote for Zyuganov. Vote for the idea.

[Blaster]

Zyuganov is a living corpse, both politically and almost physically. When he could be the President, he did not become him

[owl]

Quote: Blaster

Zyuganov-a living corpse, both politically and almost physically

The role of personality hovers in your head, what I would call "farm"thinking, try (if you succeed of course) to consider the Communist Party not as Zyuganov but as a system with one of the broadest representations in all corners of Russia and a creative program (yes, for now, in words, but as they say," first there was a word "and so far the opportunity to implement them in reality, we will not know what they can and what not, whoever says what. EDRU has already been given the opportunity and she showed what she is capable of, it was the turn of others)
And about 96, everything is trite! It’s strange that you yourself didn’t come to this: in the 17th minute

[vladimirZ]

Thanks for the video clip from Yu. Boldyrev!

I advise everyone to see the opinion of an experienced person Yuri Boldyrev, including about the upcoming elections to the State Duma, about the Communist Party, with arguments and logic, which many here criticizing the Communists do not havethat "here they are not the same as the previous ones", "Zyuganov" passed "the 1996 elections, and therefore he cannot be trusted", etc.

I would also like to cite the words of Y. Boldyrev about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation that today, the Communist Party should be considered by everyone as the only patriotic force uniting both communists and non-communists in the confrontation at the elections with the criminal-oligarchic authorities of United Russia for changing the social structure of the state.

I will repeat from my comments: "We have no other options - either the ruling oligarchs and corrupt officials with the United Russia party or the people and communists from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation." We simply do not have other communists, a mass communist party.

Watch the video with Y. Boldyrev and think.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: vladimirZ

We simply do not have other communists, the mass Communist Party.

I would clarify. Able to be in the Duma.

[vladimirZ]

I would clarify. Able to be in the Duma.
- There was a mammoth

Not only, but such a massive communist Communist Party, committed to its ideas, capable of uniting not only the Communists, but also all the patriots of Russia, in building a socially just society.
Why reinvent the wheel when it is already there. Take it and go.

[IS-80]

Quote: vladimirZ

Why reinvent the wheel when it is already there. Take it and go.

This bike is without pedals.

[dogens]

Quote: IS-80

Quote: vladimirZ

Why reinvent the wheel when it is already there. Take it and go.

This bike is without pedals.

And without a steering wheel.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: vladimirZ

Take it and go.

This is ideal. While the Communist Party is losing its supporters and is not an authority for many. Even within the framework of one ideology, there are different opinions on how to achieve a result.

[vladimirZ]

This bike is without pedals.

While the Communist Party is losing its supporters and is not an authority for many.

Well, well, you see that you are satisfied with the current state of affairs if you do not want to unite with the only force capable of turning the tide - the Communist Party, on a patriotic platform for the elimination of criminal-oligarchic power in Russia, regardless of ideology.
Only the unification of all patriots will be able to change the situation. Review the video with Yu. Boldyrev again to understand this.

Although, if you have a different worldview to leave Russia in a raw, not sovereign state, under the robbery of oligarchs and thieving officials, what else can we talk about?
It is useless to crush water.

[Cat man null]

Quote: vladimirZ

Well, it’s clear that you are satisfied with the current state of affairs

- do not distort. Not satisfied. It "does not suit" very many people, including me

Quote: vladimirZ

you do not want to unite with the only force that can turn the tide - Communist Party

- The KPRF in its current form is not capable of anything. All "declarations of intent" are nothing more than pre-election chatter ... just like with EDRA, however, I don't see any big differences here

Quote: vladimirZ

Only the unification of all patriots can make a difference

- Well, let's say - you, couch patriots have united ... then what? Is there a real action program? And there is none

Quote: vladimirZ

Review the video with Yu. Boldyrev again

- Boldyrev just once again tries to get out of naphthalene .. where he himself safely and climbed .. found, also to me, an impolite politician

Quote: vladimirZ

you have a different worldview to leave Russia in a raw, not sovereign state, under the robbery of oligarchs and thieving officials

- Are you cringing again .. a la "are you against Soviet Power"? This has already happened, we saw it, we know ..

Bored with you ..

[dogens]

Quote: gufo

and until they are given the opportunity to translate them really, we won’t know what they can and what cannot, whoever says anything.

Forgive me, but who did not give them? Nobody interferes with good deeds in our country. Or "money in the morning, and chairs in the evening? Can you have chairs in the morning and money in the evening? You can, but money in advance?" I thought, first, you need to show real activity, by which to earn the trust of voters, and then get support from voters in the form of a tick in the right place.

[Fearless]

Is it possible that except Putin, there is a chance to fight the Americans you look at the Communist Party of the old can really give America an answer, he stole but raised, he is alone and how many of you that you hait, remember how Russia lived, remember Russia is very big and it’s hard for him just Putin must be supported and then he will certainly do so that Russia will be the coolest country in the world. Do not put the wheels in the wheel you yourself live in the country.

[Blaster]

Putin has been president for many years. The efficiency of his work is rather low. Paid medicine, paid education, the collapse of the housing and communal services, the complete collapse of agriculture and industry, rampant corruption, a huge difference in incomes, etc., all this happened under him. there are no bright prospects yet. Our Crimea has become. Well, of course, but now the rest has become more expensive in it. alas

[Vadim237]

"So Putin has been president for many years. The efficiency of his work is rather low." Its work is very high in comparison with the 90s, and in agriculture we have already approached and in some areas even surpassed the indicators of the USSR in 1990, of course there are many problems, but all of them can be solved.

[owl]

Quote: Vadim237

and in agriculture we have already come close and in some areas even surpassed the 1990 USSR indicators,

That's what they feed us with a forag I would say 140 million goals are fed

[Vadim237]

If Putin didn’t work at all and had low efficiency, now 90% of the population wouldn’t support him, we wouldn’t have Crimea as part of Russia, gold and foreign exchange reserves, the army, the economy, and much more, and there would be something similar to a miserable likeness of Ukraine where you would really be fed with fodder - of the lowest quality, like cattle before slaughtering.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Vadim237

but they are all solvable.

Vadim, read your comms on another branch - two different people seem to be writing ??

[Vadim237]

Where is it so?

[dogens]

Quote: Vadim237

"So Putin has been president for many years. The efficiency of his work is rather low." Its work is very high in comparison with the 90s, and in agriculture we have already approached and in some areas even surpassed the indicators of the USSR in 1990, of course there are many problems, but all of them can be solved.

Excuse me, but I do not agree with you. Our agriculture is a black hole. Here I can tell you for sure very very much. I worked for 5 years in one of the organizations.
Really from the inside out. Starting from the year 95, our rulers headed for the restoration of the village. The Ministry of Finance, the Ministry of Agriculture and the Ministry of Justice have developed a very interesting scheme, which earlier could not be implemented with the advice, because it was commercial. The program is generally excellent. Equipment on lease, for funds from the budget.
The result was a very interesting situation. The Russian Federation cannot act as a person in commercial relations, therefore it needs an intermediary (Agent), has appeared, and has produced another 200+ sub-agents (sub-leasing partners) on the basis of old backlogs, material bases of the Soviet Union. Agents get rewarded. Leasing payments should be returned to the budget. But don't come back. Why? 1. Budget money, given for a good period. During the lease, the lessee may be deactivated, liquidated (dadad and so allow), etc. They didn’t return to the budget. 2). Agents create a bunch of schemes, due to which leasing payments are not returned to the budget, but evaporate. and 3). I was surprised. In general, I believe in our people, and I consider them to be sincere people, but very many of the farmers believe that money from the budget is a gift that should not be given. And there are a lot of such peasant farms. Highly. As I faced such in court, their thinking simply killed me.
In addition, there were other unreasonable points. For example, I know a case, I didn’t take part in the statute of limitations, but my colleagues talked about how the agents pushed the idea of ​​purchasing foreign combines (the Case was referred to in the case), the amount was solid, and then they had to be leased somewhere. So after a while, cases began to be given to peasants. Really give away for nothing. Because there were no people who wanted to lease them. Even in the middle of time, the peasants began to ask them to take these combines, since there were huge taxes on these cases, expensive spare parts, and the machine operators were afraid of them like fire. Moreover, these same cases took part in 2-3 major supply cases. The most interesting. Many of the guilty were punished, but in the statistics for the region, for the supply of equipment, these cases, in a sickly amount 3-4 times passed. So when they say that our village is rising, I wonder from what indicators you take it. This is a real bottomless hole. How many do not pour in it, in return you will receive less. If you get it.
I would also tell how Belarusian MTZ delivered to Yakutia, and our Rosselmashevsky combines. Also somewhere in the late 90s. Who lives in Yakutia, tell me, a lot of what you have plowed there? And then the money for the equipment was written off at the beginning of 2000, for non-refund.

[Vadim237]

Well then there were such times - everyone was stealing, now agricultural holdings are running the show and this is already giving tangible results, harvesting for 2015 http://mcx.ru/documents/document/v7_show/32787.395.htm.

[Maksim]

We can argue as much as we like, but the TRUTH is one, we have no CHOICE, only pseudo-choice. If you return the graph against everyone - the graph will win.

[31rus2]

All this is a farce, whoever won the course will remain the same, for the guarantor will appoint his people where necessary, in addition to have the right to change something, you need a serious election victory, then an attempt to change the law, otherwise everything will remain in appeals, then just try to correct the situation, I’ve shown it to the top, not taking into account internal resistance, so that I won’t be quick, and even if EP loses by a wide margin, but they need to be driven from all levels of government: starting from s / tips ending with the premiere

[owl]

Quote: 31rus2

All this is a farce, whoever won the course will remain the same

Moreover, it prevents us from checking ??, based on your words, nothing will change

Quote: 31rus2

, but they need to be driven from all levels of power:

It is necessary to change the system !, otherwise friends will come, and as you said nothing will change, and this just depends on all of us, and if you sit and declare with a smart face that "what's the point anyway, nothing will change" we will not come

[Million]

We have no opposition. And what is there is clowning. It turns out that there is nobody to choose except Putin.

[owl]

Quote: Million

We have no opposition. And what is there is clowning. It turns out that there is nobody to choose except Putin.

Please kindly explain where the connection is Putin and the elections to the State Duma ????
It just happens that you are not familiar with the subject!

[Million]

there is no connection at all, absolutely no)))

[jetfors_84]

The ideas of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are probably close to the people, especially its low-income part, but it seems to me they should change their face. So really they froze at the level of a decade ago.

[Million]

The Communist Party and the Communist Party are two different parties. The Communist Party quietly parasitizes under the party in power, creating the appearance of work, without actually deciding anything

[Bayonet]

Quote: Million

The Communist Party and the CPSU are 2 different parties.

Radish horseradish is not sweeter!

[yuriy55]

Quote: jetfors_84

The ideas of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are probably close to the people, especially to its poor part,

The people are not close to the ideas of the Communist Party, but the ideas of socialism, in the very frank content of the principle: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work." Otherwise, they have already seen enough of new representatives of different parties, whose abilities will not even be enough to earn money for lunch in a cheap canteen, which does not prevent them from living comfortably at the expense of society ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: jetfors_84

The ideas of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation are probably close to the people, especially to its poor part,

"Let my cow die - if only my neighbor doesn't have two!" - a proverb, but many have a credo!

[Your friend]

Quote: Bayonet

"Let my cow die - if only my neighbor doesn't have two!" - a proverb, but many have a credo!

I see you rummaging through sayings and proverbs. The truth is not always out of place, and sometimes just meaningless. But I think you have everything ahead, I believe you.))))

[Bayonet]

Quote: Your friend

I see you rummaging through sayings and proverbs.

And in people, too, "rummage". The proverbs contain popular wisdom, and this one did not just appear, but reflects the true essence of many of our citizens. Life experience you know

[My doctor]

Quote: vladimirZ

The second is to try, under the leadership of the Communist Party (Communists), their real program aimed at infringing upon the interests of raw oligarchs and super-rich, to recreate a socially just state controlled by the people.

"Real program" ??? - after that, there is nothing to do but take into account the picture of the world by conducting a dialogue with such people. It is worth avoiding painful topics with such people, in many respects beliefs are due to dissatisfaction with present life. But here it is also worth looking at which category of the population, based on economic activity, the interlocutor belongs to. (something I got carried away, I need to round off )

The new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and their enlightenment, but this is rather due to the fact that its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows familiar with it. (T. Kun)

No offense.

[Vladimir Vasilich]

Until now, I considered Voennoye Obozreniye a serious information resource. But this material leaves no doubt that it is not.
The author clearly distorts about the Communists and their leader, and comments on the program ridiculously frayed and one-sided. You cannot convince a serious reader of such notes. A serious reader and voter uses the original texts of the documents of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (see the website kprf.ru)

[owl]

Quote: VladimirVasilich

You cannot convince a serious reader with such bills

So that's why "IN" what's so interesting readers on the fingers of one hand ...
Downstairs look bright representative INshnoy "elite"

[Vadim237]

I do not understand what is "ELITE"

[owl]

Quote: Vadim237

I do not understand what is "ELITE"

It's like the elite just the opposite, now it is clear?

[Vadim237]

ELITE is generally a scoop expression.

[owl]

Quote: Vadim237

ELITE is generally a scoop expression.

The term elite was mentioned for example by Plato (Union smokes on the sidelines) in his theory of the same name of "elites", he (the term) is used in many areas, for example, the seeds of the super-elite and the elite of cereals, etc.
But the term owls (ok) is used only by degenerates !, however you should not expect more from you!

[Vadim237]

And again, no clarity of what is "ELITE"

[Your friend]

Quote: Vadim237

ELITE is generally a scoop expression.

A scoop is a scoop expression. Actually. Ahahaha ....

[Vadim237]

Education for all.
Worthy youth policy.
Honest and free elections. Democracy.
"Development of our culture".
"For honest and truthful media".
"Russians, friendship of peoples. National liberation struggle"
"For the People's Army".
"For industrialization".
"For a better future for children."
"Against police and administrative arbitrariness"
"For the revival of the Russian countryside".
"For a fair social policy" -
A set of beautiful slogans behind which there is nothing - How will they put all this into practice? How long does it take? Where will they start? How much money is needed for this, macroeconomic research? What will people gain and what will they lose from their policies and economic decisions? Possible risks? - This is not in their program, and if it were, their list of programs with a description would be the thickness of a Soviet dictionary of 1500 pages.

[Blaster]

as always, the Communist Party continuous demagogy before the election ..

[vanavatny]

against all

[Oleg Monarchist]

"Minus" ... for pathos and meager mind.
I wanted to pardon me, my dear. With these desires, somewhere outside of Russia. There are many protests in the world, there is a place where to apply your protest.

I will go to "jam" any protestants, even communists, even democrats-liberals, even monarchists, if they decide to get power for themselves with rifles.

[okroshka79]

It so happened that I personally managed to listen to the respected Gennady Andreevich Zyuganov live twice, with an interval of ten years. He speaks in general phrases and always says the same thing. In 2002, he came to our plant and was asked only two questions: why the authority of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is falling and who are the allies of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. In response - indistinct muttering. In my understanding, he is a political functionary from the systemic opposition who has fully adapted to the situation, skillfully speculating on the problems of ordinary people. After the 1996 presidential elections in the Russian Federation, when I voted for him for the last time, I stopped respecting him. By the way, I myself was a member of the CPSU for 22 years and did not throw my party card out the window, as many did in 1991.

[kostik1301]

Start washing EdRo off the crap..... and don’t rock the boat at all, EdRo is sick................... ..

[sardine]

Why didn’t anyone mention Starikov’s air defense (Great Fatherland Party)? The party is young, but I think it has great chances. And the Duma parties have proven their insolvency more than once, including the communists. Alas, only the name remains of the CPSU. Using the example of my country (Moldova), I can say that when they came to power, the communists did not move one step towards a social state; on the contrary, corruption, nepotism flourished, the privatization of state assets continued, etc., etc. A course towards joining the EU was proclaimed. I'm afraid that your communists are the same wolves in sheep's clothing, if not worse. IMHO all Duma parties are controlled from outside.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: sardare

Why didn’t anyone mention Starikov’s air defense (Great Fatherland Party)?

I believe this is the same project that SR did in the last elections. Pull protest votes away from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

Quote: sardare

I'm afraid that your communists are the same wolves in sheep's clothing...

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is not in power, one can only assume.

[Vadim237]

One of the leaders of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is already known - the governor of the Oryol region with criminal connections.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Vadim237

One of the leaders of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is already known - the governor of the Oryol region with criminal connections.

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is not an ideal. Only because the name “communist” sounds a certain detachment from real, real life. There is no communism in the world, there has not been and there will not be (in the next 2000 years) due to certain historical and social features of the world order.

But it’s unlikely that EdR has fewer criminal figures. Even without taking into account those who were cleared of charges, who got off with light house arrest...

[Vadim237]

Well, who knows what will happen to these released people after the elections, the State Duma and the president and the government - sacrifices will be needed - the guys are still walking, and then you look and things will be reopened.

[vglazunov]

China is your example, communism + socialism + capitalism, everything is very simple there with traitors.

[epsilon571]

Today you can say anything about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - as many people, as many opinions. But this is the only party that is guided by the interests of its people - that is you and me. Yes, not everything that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation says today is being implemented, and the reason for this is several factors: the coverage of their activities in the press, the insufficient number of votes on fundamental issues and the outright lies of liberal politicians. We should all understand and remember well - the coup of the 90s deprived us of our constitutional right, the right in which the choice of the people was and still is, a socially just society with equal rights and opportunities - Socialism! Only the Communist Party of the Russian Federation can put this into practice; there is no other alternative!

[Cartalon]

Was there any right of choice under socialism? And who made this choice and when? The problem of the left is that you consider yourself the people and your opinion is the people’s, and having received power, you can do whatever you want, because the people must be happy with you since you are them, and anyone who is dissatisfied is clearly an enemy of the people, at their expense, so it’s better without There are not enough of you people left.

[Bayonet]

Quote: epsilon571

But this is the only party that is guided by the interests of its people - that is you and me.

But I don’t believe it! I don’t believe it and that’s all.

[Oleg Monarchist]

Quote: epsilon571

Today you can say anything about the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - as many people, as many opinions. But this is the only party that is guided by the interests of its people - that is you and me.

And what popular interests are he guided by?

We should all understand and remember well - the coup of the 90s deprived us of our constitutional right, the right in which the choice of the people was and still is, a socially just society with equal rights and opportunities - Socialism! Only the Communist Party of the Russian Federation can put this into practice; there is no other alternative!

Are you saying you were deprived of socialism? Have you been to the apartments of the leaders of socialism? Not builders, but construction managers. No? While builders stood in lines for sausage, Finnish furniture and Italian shoes, construction managers visited special workshops, special canteens, special stores, and used special vehicles from special garages. In special apartments they were served by maids and servants; after all, a servant of the people must have servants from this people in order to be closer to this people, and also various antique trinkets emphasizing his services to the people. And I’m not talking about general secretaries and members of the Politburo, I’m talking about smaller secretaries of regional committees and various city committees.

Yes, not everything that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation says today is being implemented, and the reason for this is several factors: the coverage of their activities in the press, the insufficient number of votes on fundamental issues and the outright lies of liberal politicians.

And they are always unlucky, sometimes they are kept silent, sometimes they plot intrigues, sometimes they got the wrong electorate, they always vote incorrectly.

September 2009 MOSCOW, September 18 - RIA Novosti
The Soul and Body club was at the center of a scandal this summer when the prefect of the Northern Administrative District, Oleg Mitvol, demanded its closure, based on complaints from residents about the unhealthy situation around the building. In this regard, he even sent a letter to the leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Gennady Zyuganov, asking him to assess the situation, since the vice-president of the BOS is State Duma deputy from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Oleg Smolin.
At the end of July, the prefect of the Northern Administrative District sent a letter to the district prosecutor's office with a request to take action against a pederast club located on the territory of the prefecture in the building of the All-Russian Society of the Blind (VOS). In addition, he wrote a letter to the leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Gennady Zyuganov with a request to assess the situation, since the vice-president of the BOS is State Duma deputy from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Oleg Smolin.
For his part, VOS Vice President Smolin promised to sue Mitvol to protect his honor and dignity and demand 5 million rubles from him. And Mitvol’s letter to the Communist Party of the Russian Federation was regarded as an “aggressive offensive image game” due to the fact that in the upcoming October 11 elections to the Moscow City Duma, Mitvol is a candidate for deputy in the same constituency as Smolin.

Or for example "Bordello of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation"

[Seergey]

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is the only socially oriented party.

And this article is not analytical, otherwise there would be an objective comparison of the programs of the three main parties in Russia.

[yuriy55]

Quote: Sergey

The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is the only socially oriented party.

And this article is not analytical, otherwise there would be an objective comparison of the programs of the three main parties in Russia.

If the article were analytical, then it would first give the United Russia program, list the election promises and give a report, at least once, by year, starting from... to 2016. Where successes in the chosen development path were proven in numbers, in black and white...

One thing is clear: the majority of “edrills” in the State Duma cannot be tolerated any longer. It is also useless to wait for someone to give the leaders of opposition parties time to explain their beliefs...But we must go to the polls!!!

[vglazunov]

But I won’t go to the polls because there is no my favorite candidate - against everyone

[vglazunov]

But I will not go to the elections, since there is no my favorite candidate - against everyone.
I vote for navy and army

[Infernal man]

The communists now really seem strange, smelling of mothballs and not having any coherent program that would correspond to the spirit of the times.... BUT!
There is not a single party or political force capable of shaking the rule of the liberals. There is not a single alternative to Putin.
All parties are now derivatives of one number. They don’t differ much from each other. Some are interesting in one way, some in another, the majority are simply pro-government and occupy the “right” places for weight.
So, having seen enough of what our “effective” managers have turned the country into and not seeing any other alternative, I will vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. At least in order not to spread the votes among various small parties, but to try to strengthen one that actually has a chance of winning.
If in the last elections the electorate had not been exchanged for small parties, but acted as a single bloc, then no United Russia would have come to power.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Infernal Man

The communists now really seem strange, smelling of mothballs and not having any coherent program that would correspond to the spirit of the times...

[babkin-62]

Well, many thanks to the author for the “detailed” analysis of the games and the promise to continue. I hope the next review (detailed) will concern LGBT parties and the worthlessness of the United Russia party in front of them

[Oleg Monarchist]

By the way, LGBT people always hang out with communists at rallies... for some reason...

[red rocket]

They are all talkers, I just don’t vote! You can’t trust anyone now!

[gendir.grifon]

The "Party" United Russia has discredited the very phrase United Russia...

[Buffet]

And the next article is about why you should vote for EDRO.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: SHVEDsky_stol

And the next article is about why you should vote for EDRO.

+100500 To you for your humor.

[Calter]

I read the comments. "Zyuganov is not a cake, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is not communists" vs. "The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is the savior of Russia" vs. “I’ll take my ballot home, fuck it, not my vote.”
Look at this with a sober look, without emotions. We have a monopoly of one party and, as a consequence, abuse of this monopoly position. The remaining parties, even united, cannot block the law being pushed by United Russia. Which, by the way, we saw firsthand with the increase in excise taxes on gasoline. So what can we do?

IMHO must vote for the abolition of "democratic" institutions to such and such a mother. And the freed up labor force - for potatoes.

Stupid suggestion. Or does the comrade smoke strong dope and have his own ballot? With BlackJack and sluts? I mean real proposals.
The only real possibility is that the United Russia people will be deprived of the majority of votes. Who will get them is the tenth question.
Within the framework of this question, it no longer matters what kind of face the party has and how much you personally associate it with the bright Stalinist past. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation in this case is interesting as a party, whose program settings are most at odds with the course of the current “captain”. Don't want a welfare state? Vote for LDPR or SR. Main - get off the couch and go to the polls. If you didn’t go, it means you voted for EdRo.
If a real parliamentary opposition is created, one can at least hope that openly anti-people laws will be blocked. In addition, by the next elections the administrative resource, now concentrated in the hands of the ruling party, will be weaker, which means the elections will be fairer. The struggle for power, and therefore for votes, will intensify. Ultimately, it is the voters who will benefit. Or what do you need, special purpose sofa makers? For everything to change at the snap of your fingers?

[Oleg Monarchist]

Damn masterpiece... How long have you been poring over “Kalter’s April theses”?

Iron logic - whoever is against United Russia instantly becomes the most honest and just...AdnAznAna

Here I am, as a monarchist, a priori against the United Russia, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party and the Socialist Republic and all sorts of other Yablokos and PARNAS, which means I am the most honest and wonderful, and in your words "Within the framework of this issue, it no longer matters what kind of face the party has and how much you personally associate it"Isn't that right? That's right!!!
The only thing is there is a small "jamb". So small. You can’t be sure that when I come to power I won’t accuse you, Mr. Kalter, of theft, bastardism and betrayal (as the most honest representative of power, I will have every right), and at the same time your family, and you’ll go somewhere, who to “wall” for example, someone in the taiga, cutting wood with a jigsaw. But you yourself understand that these are simply meaningless nuances. The main thing is not United Russia will be in power.

[South Ural]

I agree with the author's criticism of the article. Today's communists are too carried away by the official opposition "struggle." There is no visible work among the masses. Yes, the EBN banned party cells and organizations at enterprises, but in addition to mass events dedicated to a certain date, you can actively work with teams outside their work premises. And there are such forms of work.