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Turkish defenders announced their readiness to begin mass production of Altay tanks

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The company Otokar - the leading manufacturer of ground-based military equipment in Turkey - has announced its readiness to launch the new generation tank Altay in a series, reports RIA News message agency Anadolu.


Turkish defenders announced their readiness to begin mass production of Altay tanks


“We are ready for mass production tanks Altay We are entrusted with this task, and we are ready to fulfill with the highest sensitivity all the obligations under the ambitious Altay project, Turkey's largest (in the defense industry) production of ground systems. The interest in this project of the countries that are our friends and allies will have a positive impact on the export of defense products in the long term ”,
quotes the agency chairman of the board of the enterprise Ali Koch.

The agency recalls that the “National Tank Altay project” is being implemented according to an agreement signed in March 2007 of the year. ”

Turkey has no experience in creating its own tanks, so work on this machine was carried out jointly with the South Korean company Hyundai Rotem. In particular, the technology used in the creation of the K-2 Black Panther tank was transferred to the Turkish side.

For the first time, Altay was presented at the Istanbul exhibition in 2011. The first batch is expected to consist of 250 machines.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira April 4 2016 11: 50
    +22
    Flag in their hands.
    And we'll see. Or maybe we won’t. Between want and make a considerable distance.
    And the matter is not in the project, but in refinement and manufacture. It’s not your panties to sew.
    The example of Arjuna and Bastion is more than visual.

    And yet, they write, including in VO, that this is the most expensive tank in the world.

    one copy of the XK-2 Black Panther costs 8 500 000 dollars and is the most expensive tank in the world.
    It was written in 2011 year.
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 April 4 2016 12: 04
      +11
      Quote: Pereira
      It was written in 2011 year.

      Here is a little fresh information
      http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/57080?page=11
      AMX-56 Leclerc (France) - $ 10 million
      In another source, the figure was 12,6 request
      There is something to strive for the Turks)
      1. Pereira
        Pereira April 4 2016 12: 06
        0
        Catch up and overtake France?
        1. chikenous59
          chikenous59 April 4 2016 12: 08
          +3
          Quote: Pereira
          Catch up and overtake France?

          Well, like that, although I strongly doubt that then the tank will go into series)
          Turks are not so rich, and in the light of recent events they will only get poorer, but not develop economically.
          1. cniza
            cniza April 4 2016 12: 20
            +6
            Successes, but our T-90 is more powerful, so catch up.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS April 4 2016 12: 38
              +2
              Quote: cniza
              Successes, but our T-90 is more powerful, so catch up.

              It is of course, but only Armata has already gone into the series. hi
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          3. Pereira
            Pereira April 4 2016 12: 22
            +5
            In the situation of Turkey, they save not on weapons, but on other expenses. I believe the tank will be built, including for reasons of propaganda.
            But whether they will be able to create combat-ready units, we will look.

            But there is one more problem.
            Vnakh Ukraine 1 tank production cycle year.
            We are waiting for the first "Altai" by the end of 17 years. When will they be able to form at least one battle-worthy battalion? By the end of 18, not earlier.
            The question is, will Turkey still need tanks?
            1. Pinkie F.
              Pinkie F. April 4 2016 12: 51
              +3
              Quote: Pereira
              The question is, will Turkey still need tanks?

              Why not?
              1. Pereira
                Pereira April 4 2016 13: 11
                +1
                The war may already end.
                1. chikenous59
                  chikenous59 April 4 2016 13: 46
                  +1
                  Quote: Pereira
                  The war may already end.

                  Who are we fighting with now? We didn’t stop releasing tanks for our own army))
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira April 4 2016 16: 06
                    0
                    Actually, yes, we are fighting.
      2. Kostyar
        Kostyar April 4 2016 12: 23
        +2
        Good target! In such an conscript with closed eyes, he wants not to miss ..............
        1. oblako
          oblako April 5 2016 05: 51
          +1
          Suckers ... it would be necessary to get the TTD of this tank, in order to substantively talk about what the enemy is. South Korea is a serious manufacturer of machinery. Caps throw now no one succeeds. To beat the enemy, you need to respect him: to know his strengths and weaknesses and to be able to use this knowledge correctly in battle.
    2. Boz_canavar
      Boz_canavar April 4 2016 12: 14
      +4
      Arjuns and Bastion - well, do not compare the technologies of India and Ukraine with South Korea hi
      1. Pereira
        Pereira April 4 2016 12: 23
        +1
        So after all, the Turks will rivet, not the Koreans. Why not compare?
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC April 4 2016 13: 21
          +1
          The engine and the gun are German, is it even the Turks who cook the armor? Or will they also buy?
          1. zennon
            zennon April 4 2016 13: 29
            0
            Quote: KaPToC
            The engine and the gun are German, is it even the Turks who cook the armor? Or will they also buy?

            Here is an article about him back in 2011, exactly 5 years ago was written. Explanatory.
            http://topwar.ru/3977-obt-altaj...ostroeniya.html
    3. Proxima
      Proxima April 4 2016 12: 30
      +3
      Quote: Pereira
      Flag in their hands.
      And we will see.

      This is unrealistic. The production of tanks implies developed metallurgy, mechanical engineering, instrument making, and I do not say that the state should have some experience in tank building. The Turks have nothing of the kind. It is especially worth paying attention to the declared series of this tank - 250 pieces - this is all the more unrealistic and no Korea will help them in this matter.
      1. Andrew 447
        Andrew 447 April 4 2016 14: 28
        +1
        It is especially worth paying attention to the declared series of this tank - 250 pcs - this is all the more unrealistic and no Korea will help them in this matter.
        For Turks, 250 tanks are real, but not for the 3-4 of the year, although by the standards of the USSR Armed Forces this is less than in a tank division (tank regiment of the 94 tank).
      2. diver1977
        diver1977 April 5 2016 07: 57
        0
        Come on? Does Israel have developed metallurgy? Well, the famous Israeli metallurgical plant, Telavivsky steel rolling!
        You can buy metal, machine tools too, and devices too. Everything can be ordered as individual nodes in the global market. There would be money. But they are. The Turkish economy is approximately equal to the economy of the Russian Federation. However, it is not resource-oriented. Google to the rescue.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC April 5 2016 08: 25
          0
          Quote: diver1977
          The Turkish economy is approximately equal to the economy of the Russian Federation. However, it is not resource-oriented.

          The Russian economy is not resource oriented. The share of oil in the structure of Russia's GDP is SIX percent, not enough for the "oil needle".
    4. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 4 2016 12: 47
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      one copy of the XK-2 Black Panther costs 8 500 000 dollars and is the most expensive tank in the world.

      So the Turks only use SOME technology of the Koreans! For example, there is a painting technology ...
      For a good tank, you need either a powerful production with high scientific potential, or a lot of money to buy ready-made! But the Turks do not have all this
      1. Boz_canavar
        Boz_canavar April 4 2016 13: 05
        +1
        Korea completely transferred all the production technology of this tank, as well as the equipment and assistance of Korean specialists.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek April 4 2016 16: 45
          0
          This does not happen. Transfer technology to us, how to collect iPhone, and we will not collect. Compare T_54 and Type -59. We also transferred technology to them, but the trouble with metal is all the same, and the caterpillars as on type 59 are on the most modern Chinese tanks and then burst.
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    5. KaPToC
      KaPToC April 4 2016 13: 17
      +1
      Where is he "new generation"?
    6. just exp
      just exp April 4 2016 13: 18
      +1
      Altai will be cheaper, no there are no AZ and KAZ.
  2. drilled
    drilled April 4 2016 11: 53
    +5
    Kokoi profile (body-tower) uniform. Like a box. You will not miss
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre April 4 2016 12: 20
      0
      And its dimensions are rather rather big. Only the hull (without a tower) is almost the size of a person.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 4 2016 12: 24
      0
      For spaced armor and dynamic defense, that's it.
  3. Bureaucrat
    Bureaucrat April 4 2016 11: 53
    +4
    Easy to say, but start producing. This is not a sheepskin coat to sew, wait and see.
  4. Taygerus
    Taygerus April 4 2016 11: 55
    +2
    Will they pull it? It's not riveting armored cars
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 4 2016 11: 59
    +1
    Do not count your chickens before they are hatched! And the tanks, after firing at least the "Cornet"! laughing
  6. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 4 2016 12: 00
    +7
    Tank "Altay" - preliminary tactical and technical characteristics

    Weight 60 tons
    Length 7735 mm
    Width 3972 mm
    Height 2640 mm
    weaponry
    120 smoothbore gun
    Machine gun 12,7-mm
    Ammunition 57 + 10
    Diesel engine, 1 500 hp
    Speed ​​70 km / h
    Power reserve 500 km

    The tank will be armed with an 120-mm smoothbore gun, a remotely controlled weapon module with stabilization and a 12,7-millimeter machine gun. Nothing is known about booking a promising tank. According to preliminary estimates, cost new Turkish tank will be about 5,5 million dollars.

    Nothing outstanding. T-90 wins.
    1. Pereira
      Pereira April 4 2016 12: 16
      +3
      Today, the specified performance characteristics are a certain standard that is laid down during design.
      I looked at another technique - very close.
      Another thing is, can a technician in a real environment confirm these tabular values? As well as reliability and maintainability.

      It seems that the technology of this generation has reached the technical ceiling of percent on 95. No further improvement. We need a fundamentally different technology.
  7. old pioneer
    old pioneer April 4 2016 12: 00
    +5
    Let them fork out, only the next disruption of the holiday season in Turkey will make the tomato the national currency, although they made good money on the stolen Syrian oil
    1. SVD
      SVD April 4 2016 12: 48
      +1
      Why should they shell out? Europe will pay. They have already put her in a pose, so they will take full advantage.
  8. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 April 4 2016 12: 02
    +3
    Something I do not believe about these tanks, that they are "new generation". Declarations are one thing, but real trials in the military are quite another
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim April 4 2016 12: 54
      +1
      Quote: nazar_0753
      Something I do not believe about these tanks, that they are "new generation". Declarations are one thing, but real trials in the military are quite another

      They learned this from their "brothers in mind" who jumped, who are about to have a "powerful" fleet, and "the best in the world" missiles, and "any where" tanks (which make 5 units a year!).
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 4 2016 12: 02
    +4
    Turkish defenders smelled gunpowder and mixed it up with the smell of big bucks. School is needed, in addition to desire.
  10. Dimon174rus
    Dimon174rus April 4 2016 12: 04
    +2
    I compared the appearance, in some places it looks like an abrams, but somewhere it looks like a leopard 2, I see it was borrowed from both cars!
    1. Kent0001
      Kent0001 April 4 2016 12: 08
      +2
      External similarity - from the general principles of the layout of tanks. This is their concept, so the output will be exactly the "box".
      1. old pioneer
        old pioneer April 4 2016 12: 13
        +2
        Interestingly, and the Negro-charging layout provided? Is it really interesting how many people are the crew?
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU April 4 2016 12: 21
          +3
          Quote: old pioneer
          Interestingly, and the Negro-charging layout provided? Is it really interesting how many people are the crew?

          If South Korea participated, which we sold X-NUMX years ago with T-20U tanks with automatic charging, then the Koreans could have mastered it and shared it with the Turks.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS April 4 2016 12: 44
            +3
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU

            If South Korea participated, which we sold X-NUMX years ago with T-20U tanks with automatic charging, then the Koreans could have mastered it and shared it with the Turks.

            I believe that for the T-14, T-15, for Uranus-9, as well as for the "Hunter" and "Alligator", this "squeak" of the Turkish tank building, even in a compartment with Koreans, Frenchmen and mattresses, is quite a convenient target.
            Let them build ... In the words of Ilf and Petrov: Saw, Shura, it is golden ...
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 4 2016 12: 16
    +3
    Quote: old pioneer
    although they made good money on stolen Syrian oil

    What earned went into the pocket of Zrdogan and his entourage. Turkey itself has so far earned only trouble. A couple of holiday seasons will be boycotted and it will be very difficult for the Turks, and you also need to spend money on the war with the Kurds.
  12. Jack-b
    Jack-b April 4 2016 12: 21
    +2
    What a wonderful dark green color! Chic device.
    Turkey has no experience in creating its own tanks, so work on this machine was carried out jointly with the South Korean company Hyundai Rotem.

    May I ask the guru? Korean tanks somewhere fought?
  13. genisis
    genisis April 4 2016 12: 25
    +2
    And whose diesel will be? Germanic? So the promised self-propelled guns "Fyrtyna" have been going to Azerbaijan for many years now, because the Germans do not sell engines so that the Turks do not put these self-propelled guns into the conflict zone.
    How will the tanks be? Will they produce their own engines?
    Most likely Korean Doosan Infracore DV27K
    But are Koreans producing them in sufficient quantities for themselves to cover Turkish needs?
  14. Engineer
    Engineer April 4 2016 12: 28
    +3
    "National tank Altay" ... what's national then? Rollers? A clone of a German leopard with a Korean eye shape: a German diesel engine, a gun from the same place, added Korean electronics and booking schemes and - voila - a national tank. I am glad that while the tanks will be supplied for the rearmament of the army, it is not worth waiting for them on the foreign market. Those. it will not compete with ours yet.
  15. BOB044
    BOB044 April 4 2016 12: 31
    +4
    Beam cultivation of tomato engaged. Miserable.
  16. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 April 4 2016 12: 33
    +2
    It looks like a hybrid of a leopard and an abrams, a sort of style-ala 90s. The question from me personally is whether the Turkish budget will pull such an expensive tank, will technology make it less reliable? It's still not riveting washing machines.
  17. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson April 4 2016 12: 35
    +2
    And again the carousel around the Altai was brought up. For yourself - let them sculpt, like the same panthers and leclercs, 2-5 units per year, this is normal for a country where the vast majority of equipment is of foreign production. Going out for export with such machines - you need to try very hard. Only if through political deals and pressure, than Turkey does not shine, surrounding itself with potential enemies.
  18. demo
    demo April 4 2016 12: 36
    +1
    "We are ready for serial production of Altay tanks. ..."

    In order to avoid misunderstandings, it is necessary to name the tank by the name of one of the Hyundai company models - GENESIS, otherwise Altai is hinting at the Buryats.
    Yes, and Sergei Kuzhugetovich, again from those lands.
    It is perceived as undisguised eastern flattery.
    You can lick, but not so explicitly.
  19. aleks700
    aleks700 April 4 2016 12: 38
    +3
    The governor of the Altai Territory Karlin is suing Turkey for its use of the name Altay. According to him, only the Altai armored cavalry division can use tanks with that name.
  20. raid14
    raid14 April 4 2016 12: 45
    +1
    According to Internet data, Altai copies 60% of the South Korean K-2 tank, on which the NERA DZ is installed as an additional reservation, it is also possible that a KAZ developed by South Korea is installed.
  21. BARMEN628651
    BARMEN628651 April 4 2016 12: 46
    +1
    I have one question, and how does he meet the requirements of the new generation?
    1. cap
      cap April 4 2016 13: 08
      +1
      Quote: BARMEN628651
      I have one question, and how does he meet the requirements of the new generation?


      Just above the knee laughing
  22. vvp2412
    vvp2412 April 4 2016 12: 59
    +1
    well, if you are ready, let them produce it. What is the problem?
    404 country also constantly declares something ...
  23. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 4 2016 13: 10
    -1
    Turkish tank "Altai" .. maybe it's time for us to launch the cruise missile "Ankara" or "Belek" or "Istanbul" ..
  24. ovod84
    ovod84 April 4 2016 13: 29
    0
    I heard that this tank is a mixture. South Korean tank and leopard
  25. esaul1950
    esaul1950 April 4 2016 13: 29
    0
    Great tank, tall and wide ...., more convenient to aim ....
  26. Stabilization
    Stabilization April 4 2016 13: 57
    0
    In size with a whole self-propelled guns almost ...
  27. himanru
    himanru April 4 2016 15: 21
    0
    Good luck - to Turks who have no experience in tank building, who are helped by Koreans who have no experience in tank building. Design tandem killer. Is it not better to be content with the latest models of foreign exports? Well, yes, Turkey is self-sufficient and abounds with talents in all areas :)))
  28. hartlend
    hartlend April 4 2016 21: 18
    0
    We are waiting for the Turkish tanks. Let them drain their budget.