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Japanese ships entered the Philippine port near disputed islands of the PRC

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The Japanese destroyers Ariake and Setogiri, as well as the Oyashio-type submarine, entered the Philippine port of Subic, located in 200 km from the islands disputed by China in the South China Sea, reports RIA News the message "France-Presse".


Japanese ships entered the Philippine port near disputed islands of the PRC
Japanese Navy destroyer

“This visit is a manifestation of consistent support for peace and stability in the region and the expansion of maritime cooperation between fleets neighboring countries, ”said the representative of the Philippine Navy, Lued Lusina.

As noted by the agency, "on the destroyer" Ariake "placed anti-submarine helicopter."

Earlier it was reported that the Philippine Defense Ministry was discussing the possibility of leasing aircraft to the Japanese Air Force to patrol disputed territories in the South China Sea.

The publication reminds that the PRC "claims to most of the waters of the South China Sea and leads territorial disputes with such countries of the region as Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, and Vietnam."
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RIA News. Vitaly Ankov
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  1. Alexey Z.
    Alexey Z. April 3 2016 13: 20
    +6
    Slowly pumping there ... stirring began ....
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 3 2016 13: 25
      +25
      Quote: Alexey Z.
      Slowly pumping there ... stirring began ....

      Then the Japanese, the Turks came to Odessa ... They started to shoot in Karabakh .... It's not calm like that.
      1. SHAMAN
        SHAMAN April 3 2016 13: 40
        -9
        Quote: svp67
        Quote: Alexey Z.
        Slowly pumping there ... stirring began ....

        Then the Japanese, the Turks came to Odessa ... They started to shoot in Karabakh .... It's not calm like that.

        Not calm ... But what to do .. Kneel in front of the USA to get up? Bandera will wave their flags on Red Square ... Japanese in the Far East ..! And in the Urals, we will not give up! hi
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 April 3 2016 13: 55
          +24
          Quote: SHAMAN

          Not calm ... But what to do .. Kneel in front of the USA to get up? Bandera will wave their flags on Red Square ... Japanese in the Far East ..! And in the Urals, we will not give up!

          What do you write, it means they will surrender in Central Russia and the Far East, but not in the Urals, no one thinks to give up, think before you write a comment, they will only defend themselves in the Urals and go out in other regions for a walk.
          1. Kostyar
            Kostyar April 3 2016 14: 51
            -1
            Someone who scares the first one to death ...., squint pee-pee, everything is measured !!!
            1. Talgat
              Talgat April 3 2016 15: 22
              +10
              Quote: Bone
              squint pee-pee-kami all measured !!!


              I think that the root cause is not at all in this

              Probably everyone will agree that the roots of the conflict in the Pacific Ocean lie not in the desire of the Yap and Chinese to measure themselves, but in the growing confrontation between China and the United States

              After the death of the USSR - in the 21 century, China is rapidly catching up with the United States in terms of economy - and it is clearly going to take the place of the Soviet Union as the main geopolitical opponent of the United States and the Fed

              Japan is a natural enemy of China - and, secondly, at the same time an ally of the West and the United States - and China is not yet ready. Therefore, the US will play the Japanese card to contain China. Escalation will grow there - there may be restrictions on China's participation in world production and trade - and an increase in oil prices - so soon China will become much more "terrible" for the United States than Russia

              No wonder China is developing supplies and pipelines and roads from the mainland - turning Russia and Kazakhstan into a friendly rear and source of resources. Preparing for a confrontation at sea.
              1. cniza
                cniza April 3 2016 15: 26
                +5
                Quote: svp67
                Quote: Alexey Z.
                Slowly pumping there ... stirring began ....

                Then the Japanese, the Turks came to Odessa ... They started to shoot in Karabakh .... It's not calm like that.


                They are surrounded by a belt of instability, the United States has everything according to plan ... let's see what it comes to them with.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana April 3 2016 18: 38
                  +1
                  cniza
                  the United States has everything according to plan ... let's see what it comes around with.

                  It is known that, according to the leadership of the PRC, a number of countries participating in the territorial dispute over islands in the South China Sea specifically use US support to escalate tensions.
                  However, this is not quite true! On the contrary! The initiative comes from the United States. It is the United States that incites Japan to the war with China and sets a number of Asian countries participating in the territorial dispute over the islands in the South China Sea against China. At the same time, the global Fed bankers, represented by the USA and Great Britain, create from these countries their ASIA military grouping against the PRC for their foreign policy — moreover, according to the same colonial-pro-American “training manuals” by which they draw the EU and NATO countries into war against Russia .
                  Moreover, in this Asian Union, which may well be created, Japan plays the role of Hitler Germany against the PRC of Japan, and the role of pre-war Poland before the Second World War to the Philippines. Now in the EU, the role of Hitler Germany is played by Poland, and the role of pre-war Poland by the Baltic countries and Ukraine (they are most distinguished by their shout against the Russian Federation), and, in general, these are all other countries besides Poland, the intermediate cordon belt between Germany and Russia. The belt that the Anglo-Saxons form for themselves is represented by the US hegemon.
                2. gg.na
                  gg.na April 3 2016 19: 02
                  0
                  Quote: cniza
                  They are surrounded by a belt of instability, the United States has everything according to plan ... let's see what it comes to them with.

                  Everything will depend on their further gestures !!! repeat
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              3. gg.na
                gg.na April 3 2016 19: 00
                +1
                Quote: Talgat
                No wonder China is developing supplies and pipelines and roads from the mainland - turning Russia and Kazakhstan into a friendly rear and source of resources. Preparing for a confrontation at sea.

                Yes!!! There may be a conflict there! And if the conflict moves, then it will not be frail enough! what Damn ... Something like this recourse Shitty of course! But shitty it is not critical! It’s just that our RUSSIA needs to be prepared for many situations that can happen and happen all of a sudden! That’s why I train our armed forces in all possible situations and directions !!!
          2. wervolf
            wervolf April 3 2016 16: 45
            0
            No
          3. gg.na
            gg.na April 3 2016 18: 54
            0
            Quote: vlad66
            The Urals will defend themselves, and in other regions they have gone for a walk like that.

            Yes, the SHAMAN joked! What really then to attack a person! The same joke must be understood! winked
      2. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer April 3 2016 13: 44
        +8
        But kipish in Europe, about the fact that Russia is unhappy with them, wants to attack? Something, overseas spiders briskly began to pull the strings.
      3. ver_
        ver_ April 3 2016 15: 24
        +2
        ... however, soon China will come to Taiwan - the cowboy became ill however ..
      4. vladfill
        vladfill April 3 2016 18: 12
        +3
        Japas without a team from the United States will not move. Remember how last year,
        after shouting from the foreign State Department, the Japanese Foreign Minister canceled a visit to the DPRK,
        the occupied country of Japan, all foreign policy, which is being dictated by the United States.
    2. Finches
      Finches April 3 2016 13: 30
      +5
      Children of the sun itch something at the word - "islands" .... ???
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 3 2016 13: 33
        +11
        "Japanese ships entered the Philippine port near the islands contested by the PRC"
        How they came and they leave. Or the Chinese might think now how scared they will give all the islands to the Japanese.
      2. SHAMAN
        SHAMAN April 3 2016 13: 35
        +9
        The Chinese remember how their Japanese were cut out and experimented on them ...! In vain the Japanese provoke China! ...
        1. novobranets
          novobranets April 3 2016 15: 21
          +3
          Quote: SHAMAN
          In vain the Japanese provoke China! ...

          There is a Chinese proverb that goes something like this: "If you want to live to old age, don't pull the sleeping dragon's whiskers." The Japanese seem to have not heard of her.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood April 3 2016 18: 23
            0
            This dragon was pulled with impunity all his life with impunity, and what, do you think something has changed ?!
    3. meriem1
      meriem1 April 3 2016 15: 07
      0
      Quote: Alexey Z.
      Slowly pumping there ... stirring began ....

      Will it start or not ??? The Chinese are ruthless. They were killed in batches. Turks with their children Armenian pies. The Philippines))) And they will remember ... how they cut them in batches. Oh well. Provoke, but in vain.
    4. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx April 3 2016 15: 16
      +1
      spring however ...
    5. Agent_017
      Agent_017 April 3 2016 20: 42
      -3
      Already scary ... And so, the Chinese startled and stopped costing the Great Wall of China? Turned by loopholes to itself ... The Japanese cannot defeat the most ancient civilization on earth, and therefore stupid show-offs flow like snot on asphalt ..
  2. izya top
    izya top April 3 2016 13: 21
    +4
    islands-fetish japov? then to the doctor. everyone is already tired of their squeaks (sound signals, not what you thought)-soon there will be no island in the ocean on which the japas do not roll their lips
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov April 3 2016 15: 47
      -3
      You won’t spoil your Chinese comrades!
  3. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 April 3 2016 13: 22
    +4
    “This visit is a manifestation of consistent support for peace and stability in the region and increased maritime cooperation between the fleets of neighboring countries,” said the representative of the Philippine Navy, Lued Lusina.

    Well, this does not add stability to the region, but rather the opposite. But nevertheless, a certain complacency among the Filipinos caused this visit)
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 3 2016 13: 22
    +5
    This visit is a manifestation of consistent support for peace and stability in the region.

    This direct provocation directed against China. What kind of support for peace can we talk about if we openly provoke the PRC to retaliatory actions, thereby escalating tensions in the region. I wonder how the Chinese will react?
  5. Monos
    Monos April 3 2016 13: 25
    +5
    Friends. but what do you think: if there is a "hot" conflict between Japan, America and China, should we intervene in it?
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik April 3 2016 13: 26
      +4
      And we will not get anywhere, it will be the third world, although we must hope for the best.
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    3. Alexey Z.
      Alexey Z. April 3 2016 13: 32
      +6
      We express extreme concern on the channels of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and call on the parties to the conflict to stop shelling. Maximum, we condemn the aggression of the United States and Japan. We will strengthen the land and sea borders in the region. I think this is the most reasonable!
    4. 79807420129
      79807420129 April 3 2016 13: 35
      +14
      Quote: Monos
      Friends. but what do you think: if there is a "hot" conflict between Japan, America and China, should we intervene in it?

      I think my colleague will not come to a "hot" dish, and if we assume that they started beating each other, then Russia is better off doing what China is doing now, refraining from the UN and not interfering in events.
      1. Monos
        Monos April 3 2016 14: 30
        +9
        Here, I agree! We should not climb until we hooked. Only now, I'm afraid, they will want to drag us in. The question is how to avoid this.
        1. ver_
          ver_ April 3 2016 15: 27
          +3
          ... "hit Fredy first" ..
    5. lukke
      lukke April 3 2016 14: 29
      +2
      the conflict between Japan, America and China
      if this happens, China will be destroyed or disintegrate as a country.
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  6. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 April 3 2016 13: 26
    +3
    This visit is a manifestation of destabilization and tension in the region.
  7. Dezinto
    Dezinto April 3 2016 13: 27
    +4
    And if China now drives someone two hundred kilometers to Yap. That fffsёё it will be a terrible act of aggression, disapproval of the UN, calls, sanctions ..... I see.

    And the Japanese under the wing of the United States can show and provoke language.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 3 2016 15: 05
      0
      The Japanese themselves have a fleet of hoo, an order of magnitude more technologically advanced than the Chinese. So the Chinese have nothing to oppose to them at sea.
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov April 3 2016 15: 54
        +2
        The fleet is more technologically true, but only under a hundred Chinese missile defense systems with missiles over 200 km, what can I do ?, so that your conclusions to Greenwater cause a lot of questions.
  8. black
    black April 3 2016 13: 27
    +6
    And are they looking for hemorrhoids on the ass? In the Asia-Pacific region, there are many who want to see how the Japanese grab a plop. There is a long memory. Asians, gentlemen.
  9. Saburo
    Saburo April 3 2016 13: 40
    +6
    Destroyer "Ariake", literally the name translates as "Time before dawn, when the sky is still visible." Belongs to the Murasame class, the last ship in the series, built in 2000. Carries medium-range missiles RIM-162 ESSM in the UVP and ASROC PLUR in the UVP.
    1. your1970
      your1970 April 3 2016 23: 24
      0
      the name of the ship is beautiful - not yet "sunrise", not yet "morning", rather "dawn" ...
  10. Saburo
    Saburo April 3 2016 13: 48
    +2
    Destroyer "Setogiri" (DD-154), translated as "Mist over the strait", belongs to the class "Asagiri" built in 1988. Carries 8 RIM-7 Sea Sparrow missiles in a container launcher and 8 ASROC missiles in a container launcher.
  11. Saburo
    Saburo April 3 2016 13: 56
    +5
    Diesel-electric submarine of "Oyashio" class, named after the Kuril sea current. The head submarine has now been retrained into a training sub, so this is definitely not Oyashio itself. Has 6 bow 533-mm TA with the ability to fire anti-ship missiles "Harpoon" from a submerged position.
    1. Kronos07
      Kronos07 April 3 2016 16: 42
      0
      Japan Naval Parade 2015
  12. From Samara
    From Samara April 3 2016 14: 02
    +1
    Japan has a fleet better, better, newer ... China should not compete with Japan on the sea ...
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires April 3 2016 14: 56
      +4
      yes, okay, if you take frigates and destroyers and submarines, then here is almost parity, and if you count missile boats, then the Japanese are in flight .. and one more nuance - yapps have almost no combat aircraft, some anti-submarine mostly and auxiliary support .. ostensibly inclined that China has more chances
      1. cap
        cap April 3 2016 15: 18
        0
        Quote: AlexTires
        ostensibly inclined that China has more chances


        Militarily, one cannot measure Japan and China by the standards of computer preferences.
        China is a tiger and it is ready to jump. Too much has been invested in the army. The Japanese carry an American umbrella, no doubt.
        1. AlexTires
          AlexTires April 3 2016 15: 38
          +2
          well, it’s necessary to write, Japan + America, against China, and not to make the not so obvious and unambiguous conclusion that China and Japan cannot compete at sea ... then, in place of China, Russia must also be put with which Japan according to the latter, there is a conflict .. do you think America will begin to fit in for every such case? unlikely...
      2. From Samara
        From Samara April 3 2016 15: 39
        -4
        The Japanese Navy is actually second in power in the world, and the USA will bypass the training in the same way ... PLA Navy The weakest link in the PLA at all ...

        What? No combat aircraft? Yes, the Japanese Air Force is generally very strong ... 15 F-198s alone! In one gate, China will be broken at sea in the very first hours ...
        1. AlexTires
          AlexTires April 3 2016 15: 45
          +2
          I’m talking about naval aviation and you’re talking about the air force to me ... so the Chinese have even more, + carriers of nuclear weapons under 90 ..
          1. From Samara
            From Samara April 3 2016 16: 11
            -4
            That the Air Force, that the Chinese Navy is inferior in quality first of all. The Japanese Air Force will act in collaboration with the Navy ... it’s obvious, and the PLA of China with most of its cases Junk can not oppose the Japanese Air Force ... only Ponty!

            We are not talking about nuclear weapons ... China cannot decide with its densely populated area in Primorye even to remember nuclear weapons ...
            1. your1970
              your1970 April 3 2016 23: 47
              0
              and in Japan, like a desert repeat -one of the most populated places on earth ..
              well, the fleet, well, they will burn the Navy of the People's Republic of China, then what? squeezed the disputed territories? God bless them ...
              In response, in addition to the actual hostilities, China responded completely stopping the supply of everything and confiscated the property of all Japanese (or maybe for the company and American - or maybe not - how the United States will behave) firms. I flooded all fishing trawlers (which I reached) , closed access to rice, mined the straits. Purchased from the RF everything that is necessary (lendlize wink ), including resources. He declared a blockade of Japan. Using his gold reserves, he slightly kicked the yen (well, maybe a dollar at the same time). They can use nuclear weapons. They can come up with a lot of all kinds of fortels — the East is a delicate matter ...
              Given that Japan will not be able to invade land China, it is a futile task and, accordingly, the current Government will not be able to overthrow / win.
              Will they get involved in such a situation with the USA ??? Will they support, without having large grandmothers in the prospect, but vice versa, having prospects for big problems in business (nothing personal)? The main supplier of everything in the world will not produce computers / condoms / pens / copiers / auto / food / furniture / clothes and further on all-all positions of the CNEA - and guns / ships / planes / tanks ....
              IMHO, I strongly doubt that the United States will allow Japan to pull the dragon’s mustache at least a micron stronger than necessary to start a war
          2. Greenwood
            Greenwood April 3 2016 18: 29
            -4
            The Chinese have all the equipment - copies of obsolete Soviet models of the 70-80s, the Japanese have a novice with the latest technology.
        2. AlexTires
          AlexTires April 3 2016 15: 47
          0
          and fleets obsolete data Japan - 3 place, China - 4 th ...

          http://topwar.ru/88323-reyting-silneyshih-flotov-mira.html
          1. From Samara
            From Samara April 3 2016 16: 14
            -2
            England has an excellent fleet, but its combat power is still really inferior to the Navy of Japan ... With One Ocean, without Aircraft Carriers ... Her Majesty’s fleet cannot keep up with the possibilities of the Japanese Navy ...
        3. cap
          cap April 3 2016 16: 12
          +1
          Quote: From Samara
          The Japanese Navy is actually second in power in the world, and the USA will bypass the training in the same way ... PLA Navy The weakest link in the PLA at all ...

          What? No combat aircraft? Yes, the Japanese Air Force is generally very strong ... 15 F-198s alone! In one gate, China will be broken at sea in the very first hours ...

          I would argue about the hours. hi Have you been to China personally?
          So the Chinese are not all like you imagine. From Hollywood action movies.
          I am personally familiar with the Chinese division commander, in the 90s I had to talk.
          So here he can give odds to many of my acquaintances, thrashing in uniform.
          hi
          (Chinese division of 10 thousand bayonets) for information.
          1. From Samara
            From Samara April 3 2016 16: 17
            -4
            I was ill at the time ... propaganda ... I always look at quality!
            1. Kronos07
              Kronos07 April 3 2016 16: 35
              +1
              Japan has a better fleet.
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 3 2016 14: 02
    +4
    Strange gestures of the Japanese fleet. They really think that you can pull the dragon with a mustache with impunity. Yes, and such small forces. What a mouse fuss.
  14. yuriy55
    yuriy55 April 3 2016 14: 07
    +2
    What a strange feature: in Europe migrant unrest alternates with terrorist attacks, in the Middle East passions are boiling in the fight against ISIS and all sorts of others, China is shown Japanese figures on their fingers, Ukraine is opposed to Russia ... in the Western Hemisphere. Moreover, in front of the whole world, the "chief peacemaker" decided to accept the submission of the longtime "sanctions opponent" of Cuba, for which he was politely removed by a man who remembers Uncle Sam's antics and grins ...
    They stubbornly want to prepare us for the idea that war is inevitable? So did someone decide and come up with? I recall, however, so as not to expand:
    27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons. in response to the use against her and (or) her allies nuclear and other weapons of mass destructionand in case of aggression against the Russian Federation using conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is threatened.

    The decision on the use of nuclear weapons is made by the President of the Russian Federation.
    1. cap
      cap April 3 2016 16: 23
      0
      Quote: yuriy55
      27. The Russian Federation reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other weapons of mass destruction against it and (or) its allies, as well as in the case of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons, when the very existence of the state is threatened.

      Decision on the use of nuclear weapons is made by the President Russian Federation.


      And rightly so. Let the stsuki remember. am
  15. Buffet
    Buffet April 3 2016 14: 34
    +1
    Shaw will again be before the "last Chinese warning"? I wonder what China will answer. Do they even have balls or so ... from pink pong ??
  16. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 3 2016 14: 42
    +1
    The conflict between China and Japan over the disputed islands is just around the corner.
    The one who gets stronger nerves will win ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 3 2016 14: 46
      +2
      China will win in this conflict.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 3 2016 15: 08
        -4
        Not won a single war in the past. And the Japanese mocked the Chinese as they wanted and beat them even with the numerical superiority of the Chinese. So I do not believe in Chinese power.
  17. AlexTires
    AlexTires April 3 2016 14: 46
    +3
    Puppeteers decided to check whether China has eggs, and they wave a red cloth in front of China. In the role of a rag - the Japanese Navy.
  18. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 3 2016 15: 09
    +2
    A nipponians have a short memory, they stuck a little in the 45th, for 70 years the cache has completely disappeared, they forgot what war is. Apparently, some kind of hybrid of Erdogan with its manners of gruppenfuhrer and Kahlyat dullness is ripening. Here they jump with their islands, they understand that they are not shining, they hope for Sam’s uncle, or what? So the navel of him will crack his nose in all the garbage dumps at the same time. And then there's the bad kid Eun nearby ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 3 2016 18: 11
      +1
      It was not the Chinese who huddled them, yeah. Japan was defeated by the Americans on the sea and Soviet troops on land. And China for almost 10 years was their colony until the very end of the war.
  19. Zomanus
    Zomanus April 3 2016 15: 18
    0
    Of course I apologize, but I have a question.
    Here’s how you come up with what kind of thoughts Americans are having,
    when does our fleet and / or aviation visit Cuba or Venezuela?
    So, I wouldn’t press too much here.
    Well, went on a visit, showed their flag,
    quite normal.
    Look, North Korea throws rockets at Japan almost every other day,
    but it really annoys.
    So until it explodes, do not strain like that,
    all the same, nothing depends on us.
    1. cap
      cap April 3 2016 16: 40
      +2
      Quote: Zomanus
      So until it explodes, do not strain like that,
      all the same, nothing depends on us.


      He was three times in Japan. Simple Japanese (we drink vodka like us!) Are normal hard workers. After work, they traditionally relax (sake, seafood there, etc.) in a cafe. Maybe the warriors are not bad. But live on the island !!!
      I would never live. The Russian zone will seem like a fairy tale. It’s true.
      Every Russian should be transported to Japan once in his life for free.
      They will love their homeland more.
      However, war in modern conditions is simply death for Japan.
      They agreed with the United States on protection, so they are knocked out.
      The Chinese will destroy Japan with a single nuclear strike. It simply will not.
      Americans, maybe this will suit them far.
      Japan for them is an airfield and a gas station. Do not flatter yourself with the big name Japan. In the strategic plan, Hokkaido, Honshu, Shikoku, Kyushu are four islands. And EVERYTHING for nuclear weapons is a ridiculous goal.
      Something like this. Thank you, who read it. hi
      Sake, by the way, rubbish. Turkish vodka-rubbish. German schnapps-rubbish. Capital-class! For Russia, Hurray drinks
      1. Samarin
        Samarin April 3 2016 17: 16
        0
        Quote: cap
        named Japan. This is the strategic plan of Hokkaido, Honshu, Shikoku, Kyushu four islands.

        The long island of Honshu is not Kyushu,
        Rice has ripened - harvest.
        But in a distant land they talk about war
        The sword has been taken out and goodbye to the samurai.
        by Agelica Varum laughing laughing
      2. Samarin
        Samarin April 3 2016 17: 20
        +1
        Quote: cap

        Was three times in Japan ....
        ... Capital-class!, Hurray drinks

        Who the hell drunk put it there?
        1. cap
          cap April 3 2016 17: 31
          0
          Quote: Samarin
          Quote: cap

          Was three times in Japan ....
          ... Capital-class!, Hurray drinks

          Who the hell drunk put it there?


          So it happened. I wanted to try sake.
          Toyama night club, I recommend.
          Get in a taxi and say Toyama nightclub please!
          Then tell me how the night was spent. Good luck.
          Pisi. Three hundred non-rubles, it is better to have five with you.
          taxi from port 23 bucks.
          Write. I don’t recommend girls to take pictures in the bar. In the restaurant upstairs it’s cheaper. But better not knowing Japanese, do not experiment.
          "Drunk", unlike you, knows. hi
      3. Greenwood
        Greenwood April 3 2016 18: 16
        +1
        Quote: cap
        But live on the island !!!
        I would never live.
        I don’t understand, what’s the problem ?! The islands are big. And the level of infrastructure is excellent, the roads are gorgeous. What not to live something ?!
        Quote: cap
        Every Russian should be transported to Japan once in his life for free.
        They will love their homeland more.
        About 12000 Russians already live on a permanent basis in Japan; something is not being torn to their homeland.
        Quote: cap
        The Chinese will destroy Japan with a single nuclear strike. It simply will not.
        China will never dare to take this step, because With a retaliatory American nuclear strike on the densely populated southeastern regions, it will itself be returned to the Stone Age.
        Quote: cap
        And EVERYTHING for nuclear weapons, a ridiculous goal.
        Finish hoping for nuclear weapons. Neither Russia, nor China, nor the United States will use nuclear weapons. This is a weapon of mutual intimidation, nothing more. NW does not solve border conflicts.
        1. cap
          cap April 3 2016 19: 50
          0
          Quote: Greenwood
          Finish hoping for nuclear weapons. Neither Russia, nor China, nor the United States will use nuclear weapons. This is a weapon of mutual intimidation, nothing more. NW does not solve border conflicts.


          If not nuclear weapons, then ekonomika.Pro 12 thousand Russian fairy tales, some Buryats - "Russian" graduates of our universities. They look like the Japanese.
          About the infrastructure, one thing is certain, even for a simple bomb attack.
          All houses are plastic + plywood. Almost the entire coast.
          Thank you for your attention to my person. Go to Japan and see for yourself. Then we'll talk.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood April 4 2016 14: 24
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            Quote: cap
            About 12 thousand Russians
            No tales. The official information of the Consulate General of Japan in Vladivostok, which I personally heard from the consul. Here, a lot of people learn Japanese and are interested in Japan.
            Quote: cap
            some Buryats are "Russians"
            Buryats are just sitting in Buryatia.
            Quote: cap
            Looks like the Japanese.
            Nothing in common; facial features are robust. It is not so difficult to distinguish the Chinese from the Japanese, and even more so from the Russian Buryats.
            Quote: cap
            About the infrastructure, one thing is certain, even for a simple bomb attack.
            Infrastructure is vulnerable everywhere, where does it?
            Quote: cap
            All houses are plastic + plywood.
            This can be said about American homes. The climate is much milder than ours, why should they build from brick.
            Quote: cap
            Go to Japan and see for yourself. Then we'll talk.
            In the summer I’ll go and talk without fail.
  20. dvg1959
    dvg1959 April 3 2016 16: 15
    +1
    The Japanese are becoming more confident. America has its own military bases.
  21. Dikson
    Dikson April 3 2016 16: 48
    +3
    If you kill one million Chinese on DAY, you will have to fight for four years .. Japan will be stupidly trampled upon and not noticed ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood April 3 2016 18: 17
      +1
      I wonder why in 1937 this tactic did not work when the Japanese effortlessly captured China.
      1. cap
        cap April 3 2016 20: 00
        0
        Quote: Greenwood
        I wonder why in 1937 this tactic did not work when the Japanese effortlessly captured China.


        In the 90s, the Chinese bought boilers and felt hats in Khabarovsk.
        Today, the Khabarovsk people repeat the same thing in China.
        That's the only difference. hi
      2. dvina71
        dvina71 April 3 2016 20: 28
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        I wonder why in 1937 this tactic didn’t work,

        Because coastal Chinese are not fighters. When they talk about Chinese military successes they miss one thing .., their main part is the merit of the Manchus. They live in the north of China, not sailors. If we take the Chinese emperors, it was the Manchus who ruled this matter .., in the sense of the order of inheritance.
  22. Samarin
    Samarin April 3 2016 17: 13
    +1
    As noted by the agency, "an anti-submarine helicopter is deployed on the destroyer Ariake"

    It’s cool, of course, a whole anti-submarine helicopter!
  23. black
    black April 3 2016 17: 18
    0
    Comparison of the fleets of Japan and China are not correct. How many new vessels, in recent times, became part of the Chinese Navy? And how long has this been happening in the Japanese Navy? Here at VO, there was an article about the use of civilian courts for military purposes. There will be no war. But the small dirty tricks in the area of ​​the disputed islands, the Chinese will arrange for the Japanese.
  24. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec April 3 2016 17: 20
    +1
    21 century century of conflict or something .. recourse
    1. Kronos07
      Kronos07 April 3 2016 19: 36
      +1
      And 2000 years of war, war for no particular reason!
    2. cap
      cap April 3 2016 20: 04
      0
      Quote: dchegrinec
      21 century century of conflict or something .. recourse


      The calendar is over, it's time to write a new one.
  25. Olegater
    Olegater April 3 2016 17: 43
    0
    What they were ordered from the lice to the Yapam they will do, despite the fact that they can cause a serious conflict in the Asia-Pacific region.
  26. sa-ag
    sa-ag April 3 2016 18: 26
    0
    NAPL Oyashio, for some reason I'm not surprised :-)
  27. nrex
    nrex April 3 2016 18: 58
    0
    Quote: 79807420129
    Quote: Monos
    Friends. but what do you think: if there is a "hot" conflict between Japan, America and China, should we intervene in it?

    I think my colleague will not come to a "hot" dish, and if we assume that they started beating each other, then Russia is better off doing what China is doing now, refraining from the UN and not interfering in events.


    Better, but it will be as always. Despite the military might of China, there is a low military spirit. They didn’t die when they couldn’t.
    This is at the genetic level. The high population is a confirmation of this, they will better bend under the situation when they smell like fried. Let us help, as always, the mission of Russia is "Save the World".
    1. cap
      cap April 3 2016 20: 07
      0
      Quote: nrex
      Quote: 79807420129
      Quote: Monos
      Friends. but what do you think: if there is a "hot" conflict between Japan, America and China, should we intervene in it?

      I think my colleague will not come to a "hot" dish, and if we assume that they started beating each other, then Russia is better off doing what China is doing now, refraining from the UN and not interfering in events.


      Better, but it will be as always. Despite the military might of China, there is a low military spirit. They didn’t die when they couldn’t.
      This is at the genetic level. The high population is a confirmation of this, they will better bend under the situation when they smell like fried. Let us help, as always, the mission of Russia is "Save the World".


      Try to encroach on the wooden toilet of the Chinese in the garden, he will strangle you with his bare hands.
  28. Rossmk
    Rossmk April 3 2016 23: 35
    0
    This is just a demonstration of your "phi". It is difficult to call it even a provocation. Supporting territorial disputes has long been a matter of Japan's international and domestic political prestige. Of course, Japan is well aware of its prospects in the event of a war with China. The Chinese are also not stupid enough to be led by provocations. Another thing is that China can simply create conditions that will formally maintain the status quo, and de facto complicate the life of its neighbors in the region. Let's not forget that the Han people have kept their civilization for over 6000 years and they obviously will not go into conflict with the West. They tend to create a situation and observe its development from the outside, and at the right time to benefit from it. PS It is more likely that the military conflict will be in Taiwan.