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New turn of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, or When Caucasian wisdom is silent

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It is believed that soon, very soon, even large media in the state will simply cease to have enough professional war correspondents to cover all those armed conflicts that are smoldering or already burning on the body of our mortal planet. Military correspondents are working in one hot spot - when another one suddenly breaks out - it seems like you need to send business travelers there, but the third, fourth, fifth are already looming on the horizon. Donbass, Syria, Libya, Turkish Kurdistan ... Afghanistan and Iraq have long turned into an inexhaustible source News with the tags "terrorist attack", "blood", "militants", "military bases", having become terribly familiar to the so-called international community. Where, where is the explosion? - asks the "community". “Ah, again in Baghdad ... How many dead?” “Either 50, or 150 ... Ah, well it’s not interesting ... Not Brussels, after all, not Paris,” the “community” concludes.


Saturday night 2 April - the next not extinguished hot spot manifested itself. With radical enthusiasm, the Armenian and Azerbaijani sides, sacrificing their citizens, began to water each other far from only weapons in the region of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR). The MLRS, mortars, artillery mounts, Tanksarmy aviation. At the same time, Yerevan and Baku became habitual (and the habit developed over more than a quarter-century newest history confrontation in this region - thanks to the Nobel Peace Prize laureate Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev ...) mutually accuse each other of the fact that it was the opponent who started the fighting, and we, they say, were forced to respond.

The first shots showing shelling showed to the world that, remarkably, representatives of the information agency Reuters. Apparently, today only this (British) media have enough resources to be the first to show the footage of the downed Su-24 in the north of Syria, and the exchange of blows from the Azerbaijani and Armenian sides in Nagorno-Karabakh ... to envy such a vast state of such mass media, but only strange that equally large Western media did not rush to inform the international community, for example, about how the militants of the so-called Islamic State in Pal were defeated world.

However, the selection of reports and the ability of the “resource units” of the same Reuters to be in the right place for Reuters at the right time for him should be left on the conscience of Western “partners”. Now, actually, about the conflict in the NKR and the reactions of individual countries.

With all due respect to the ruling elites of Armenia and Azerbaijan, I would like to say that these tops have a characteristic feature to literally run around the lying rake and each time they hit the handles of these same rakes over their own teeth or forehead, start jogging even more intensely. A sort of military-political masochism with constant claims to the opponent. At the same time, for all those years, during which the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh was burning (smoldering and flared up again), representatives of these tops at various sites repeatedly met with each other, repeatedly discussed the possibility of de-escalating the conflict, elaborated with the mediation of third countries road maps, but at the same time they were not honored to collect scattered rakes in order not to step on them anymore. Each time the short-term conjuncture brings to naught both the principle of Caucasian wisdom itself and all the efforts that were previously made to resolve a conflict situation.

And it seems that sound thoughts are voiced by the politicians of the two states, but the process is not going further than this.
From the statement of the Ambassador of Azerbaijan to the Russian Federation, Polad Bulbuloglu (citation Vzglyad.az):
It's not about what happened that night, or what happens the other night. The fact is that in this conflict endlessly, even in a more or less peaceful time, civilians are dying, soldiers are killed on both sides. It's time to stop this conflict.


It would seem that hinders? .. Find in yourself wisdom - stop. However, the “rake” again followed in the form of statements about the presence of “occupation troops”, and some semi-interpretative interpretations about the fact that the Russian president expressed concern about the new phase of the escalation of the conflict and called on the parties for prudence.

Polad Bulbuloglu:
In order to resolve the conflict, it is necessary to remove the root cause. And the root cause (consists) in the occupation of Azerbaijani territory by Armenia, and this is an internationally recognized fact. As long as the occupation corps stands on the lands of Azerbaijan, yes, it will continue, no one hides it, until the last Armenian soldier leaves Azerbaijani territory. We have more than once stated on this at all levels. Mr. President stated, the Minister of Foreign Affairs stated, as ambassador I have repeatedly stated. But we are not heard. And if they do not hear, then such events appear. (...)
To express concern (from the Russian side - author's note) is very good, we highly appreciate such concern for us, but we need to resolve the conflict.

In fact, the Azerbaijani ambassador made it clear that Baku is ready to use precisely force against Nagorno-Karabakh in order to liberate this territory from the “Armenian occupation”. It turns out that the political process is once again pushed into the background, and the question will be tried again and again in the language of artillery pieces, tanks and mortars.

The Armenian side declares to this that it will be in arms to protect the interests of the Armenian population, which “the Baku authorities are trying to push artificially into the borders of Azerbaijan”. And he also speaks of international norms (in this case, the right of people to self-determination).

No, it is possible that someone in the countries of the Transcaucasus has such bellicose rhetoric with mutual accusations of either occupying or trying to drive someone somewhere into a violent tide of patriotism, which is fueled by such videos:


... But why such bellicose rhetoric and the actual rejection of a real political dialogue lead, can be seen in the frames, which were shot by representatives of the parties to the conflict in these April days.

New turn of the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict, or When Caucasian wisdom is silent



From the official loss reports for 3 April:
The dead from the Azerbaijani side - 12 military personnel, shot down 1 tank, shot down a Mi-24 helicopter, 1 drone.

Photos from the crash site of the downed helicopter:


The dead from the Armenian (Nagorno-Karabakh) side - 18 military personnel, 35 injured.

If, however, to get acquainted with the reports in social networks and blogs, the losses of the enemy side "with pleasure" increase significantly. Armenian blogs report about two hundred killed Azerbaijani soldiers, Azerbaijani blogs broadcast that the Armenian side was defeated at several key heights, where "everywhere there are killed Armenian soldiers, of which there are at least a hundred."

Now the main questions. If Armenians staged this bloody mess in NKR, how much do they need it? If you suddenly decided to shake arms and turn the video presented by Azerbaijanis into reality, how much do they need it, and right now? ..

In the ultraliberal cozy blobs, predictably, there appeared information that the only country in this world that would benefit from an endless confrontation (and even armed one) between Yerevan and Baku is Russia. They say that Russia, under the roar of the Armenian-Azerbaijani cannonade, will sell weapons to both of them, and even Russia has a military base in Armenia, which “proves” everything, as it were. And also, they say, Russia “does all this,” so that Azerbaijanis, you understand, could not reach the gas pipeline to Erdogan’s estate, so the son of a bitch would know how long Russian hands are ...

Yes, what can I say - well, of course, all this is beneficial only for Russia ... Who else? .. Not Ankara with Washington at the end of the day ... Kindle blood-shedding clashes at their borders with a high probability of extrapolating military operations to the regions Is Russia Beneficial for Russia? Of course ... To provoke a possible influx of refugees into Russia is it profitable for Russia? Of course, profitable ... Give refugees! We want like Merkel! ..
Trying to surround yourself with hotbeds of tension that hinder the development of trade and economic ties with both European and Asian countries - is it beneficial for Russia? Aha Again, understand, profitable. What can I say - and Chechnya at one time, and the breakthrough of militants in Dagestan, and the rampant terrorism in southern Russia (and not only in the south) - all this was beneficial only to us - the Russians ... Well, we are like that, you see masochists, that we set fire to the neighboring houses and with all our hearts we expect that the flame will spread to us. And all the other “partners” are white doves that coo: “Ahhh, again, this Russia is sowing fire at its side”

And now, when Armenians and Azerbaijanis beat each other in Karabakh with a new frenzy, again this clawed Russian paw, which, you know, pushes the gullible Aliyev and Sargsyan to fight. Oh, this Russia ...

Armenian and Azerbaijani friends! Now the question is for you: is it really incomprehensible to you that your historical conflict was at one time used as one of the levers aimed at destabilization in the USSR, and, being guided by the same principles, they are trying to use it now? Is it really not clear that your ambitions are holding like a devil in a snuffbox until the main screenwriter and director comes to mind again to push you with their foreheads with the clear hope that the wave of chaos will again overwhelm the Caucasus? How many such "trees" are you ready to grow on your land?



By the end of April 3, the Azerbaijani leadership announced that the Azerbaijani army was ceasing fire unilaterally. From the statement of Baku (quote "Interfax"):
This decision was made taking into account the appeals of international structures and the peace policy pursued by the state. The Azerbaijani armed forces halted the counteroffensive and countermeasures against the enemy and began to strengthen the defense of the liberated territories. In the event that the Armenian armed forces do not abandon their provocative actions and continue shelling residential areas and combat positions, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces will continue offensive operations using all means available in service.


At the same time, servicemen of the army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic stated that Baku’s words about the cessation of hostilities do not correspond to reality. As a result, an additional information front was opened.

As many times as you like, you can say to each other that "Armenians are occupiers" and "Azerbaijanis are incarnators of genocide", but: a) this will never put an end to the conflict, b) will pour water on the mill to those who see you in a constant war with each other. Or do you really like being turned into pawns in a big and bloody geopolitical game? ..
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  1. venaya
    venaya April 4 2016 06: 12
    +17
    the only, they say, country in this world that benefits from the endless confrontation (and even armed) between Yerevan and Baku is Russia

    This is the whole answer, if the enemy-crow whines that Russia is to blame, then this is a sure sign to whom in fact all this can be beneficial. The first sign is to pay attention to who is the first to shout: "Stop the thief."
    1. Finches
      Finches April 4 2016 07: 12
      +12
      Here in this phrase lies - who is behind this and who benefits from it:"representatives of the Reuters news agency. Apparently, today only this (British) mass media... The answer is simple to disgrace - the Anglo-Saxons! I was always surprised at the reporters there to be in the right place at the right time, until I realized that they already knew in advance about the upcoming event - a terrorist attack, the outbreak of war, an attempt on an important person ... - a method worked out for years!
    2. RUS96
      RUS96 April 4 2016 08: 22
      +2
      Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev stated that his country did not seize foreign territories, and demanded Armenia to liberate Karabakh. According to the head of state, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces dealt a "crushing blow" to the Armenian troops.

      "I believe that April 2 will be a good lesson for them. If the Armenian soldiers do not want to die, then let them get out of the Azerbaijani lands. We did not seize foreign lands," Aliyev quoted Aliyev as saying from the meeting of the country's Security Council.

      Aliyev also called the conditions for starting a peaceful settlement of the conflict.

      "After this (escalation of the conflict), we are not going to participate in negotiations for the sake of negotiations. We do not want mothers, both Azerbaijani and Armenian, to shed tears for their dead sons. But we demand our rights," the President stressed.

      Recall that on the night of April 2, the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh worsened. Both sides claim ceasefire violations. Numerous losses from both Azerbaijan and Armenia are also reported. Http://ren.tv/novosti/2016-04-03/aliev-esli-armyanskie-soldaty-ne
      -hotyat-umirat-pust-ubirayutsya-iz-karabaha
      1. svd-xnumx
        svd-xnumx April 4 2016 21: 51
        +3
        "After this (escalation of the conflict), we are not going to participate in negotiations for the sake of negotiations. We do not want mothers, both Azerbaijani and Armenian, to shed tears for their dead sons. But we demand our rights," the President stressed.
        The situation around this conflict can be reduced to one question: Will the Armenians living in Nagorno-Karabakh be able to stay there after returning to Azerbaijan and feel safe? And to any more or less reasonable person, it’s clear that it will end with a stream of refugees with the subsequent massacre of those who remained.
    3. ism_ek
      ism_ek April 4 2016 08: 34
      -2
      Quote: venaya
      "Stop the thief."
    4. Ayujak
      Ayujak April 4 2016 08: 39
      +1
      what It seems to me that Aliyev began this mess to take away news from his family on the offshore in which they are involved. The so-called affair is Mossak-Fonseca. As an option.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 4 2016 08: 53
        +11
        Quote: AYUJAK
        As an option.

        As an option for Azerbaijan in connection with the fall in oil prices, the economy is very lame on both legs. Unleash a warrior, a good way to distract from problems.
        Although there the devil will break his leg, who is right and who is not.
        1. SU69
          SU69 April 4 2016 11: 17
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          As an option for Azerbaijan in connection with the fall in oil prices, the economy is very lame on both legs. Unleash a warrior, a good way to distract from problems.

          Old proven scheme.
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 4 2016 11: 54
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          As an option for Azerbaijan in connection with the fall in oil prices, the economy is very lame on both legs. Unleash a warrior, a good way to distract from problems.

          No, you know, I’m not a fan of this government, but oil prices rose to 40, which stabilized a little and Aliyev quickly put things in order in some sectors of the economy, which stabilized the situation.
        3. ism_ek
          ism_ek April 4 2016 13: 48
          -4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          As an option for Azerbaijan in connection with the fall in oil prices, the economy is very lame on both legs. Unleash a warrior, a good way to distract from problems.

          There are also problems with the economy in Armenia. Last summer, Sargsyan barely stayed in power during the "energomaidan" Although the Armenian army is weaker, but they occupy the dominant heights. For 30 years, a system of impregnable pillboxes has been created there. Yes, and the Russian troops are on the sidelines.
          Are battles fought across the line of contact? Who benefits from this? If Azerbaijan began to storm the mountain plateau, it would launch an attack in specific directions.

          Everything says that the Armenians made porridge for solving domestic political problems.
          1. denis02135
            denis02135 April 5 2016 05: 32
            0
            Dear ism_ek

            Russian troops are helping, and why Russia needs it. It seems to me that Russia only needs to help diplomatically, in no case to use the army.
        4. xtur
          xtur April 4 2016 13: 59
          +2
          > Armenian and Azerbaijani friends!

          you would have to get a little familiar with the mat.
          Reliable statistics for the 19th century are few, but if you find the sources, the following picture is clarified (it is taken, including, according to the prevailing scientific ideas)

          in the 16th century, during the battles with Turkey over Eastern Armenia, the Iranian Shah evicted and settled the entire population of Eastern Armenia with different Muslims - Persians, Kurds, Caucasian Tatars ...

          Then over time, part of the Armenians returned, then Armenia fell into the Republic of Ingushetia and the redistribution of the population began - the Armenians concentrated around Yerevan, the Tatars around Baku

          The fact is that Azerbaijanis, a young people, forming, and being nomads, considered everything they had visited as once, and the Armenians have a very long historical memory. This question has no solution, it is a question of living space between two peoples, each of which considers it to be its own.

          But ... In the territory of Azerbaijan, including, various Iranian-speaking peoples live, and their number is about half the population.
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    5. serega.fedotov
      serega.fedotov April 4 2016 09: 25
      +4
      Quote: venaya
      This is the whole answer, if the enemy-crow whines that Russia is to blame, then this is a sure sign to whom in fact all this can be beneficial. The first sign is to pay attention to who is the first to shout: "Stop the thief."

      It’s not just who benefits, here the “partners” ears stick out:
      Turkey has already promised Azerbaijan ALL POSSIBLE help, and if Turkey attacks, we will have to help Armenia under the CSTO agreement!
      If the troops are thrown by the sea, firstly they will have to make their way through Azerbaijan, and secondly
      About six months ago, Turkmenistan bought anti-convulsive systems, and TURKY built boats for them, and the NATO member sold them.
      Everyone was amazed that Turkmenistan has no army, but is building missile boats against whom it is not clear! And now everything will be clear - they will cover the coast of Azerbaijan, not without reason they will lie down near Turkey for a long time. , one fact of presence!
    6. xetai9977
      xetai9977 April 4 2016 10: 59
      +1
      https://youtu.be/hj8K9yP0qNo
    7. max702
      max702 April 4 2016 12: 53
      +18
      I will ask such a question where did the collapse of the USSR begin? That's right from the massacre of Armenians in Baku .. That's when the empire made a fatal mistake, namely it showed criminal indecision, weak-willedness and gentleness .. The troops were introduced and the order was less restored .. BUT the worst was done GUILTY WERE NOT PUNISHED! Yes, yes the mind had to arrest the entire top of the Azerbaijan SSR and the number should have been in thousands, or even tens! Performers were found by themselves and sentenced according to the toughest scenarios to someone of the highest measure for someone for many years, the confiscation of everything and everything by itself, and not to forget such an important detail EVERYTHING in the republic after putting things in order should have been controlled by external Varangians .. Yes it would have spilled quite a few BUT by orders of magnitude less than spilled in real history and is still pouring! Azerbaijan should have been thrown back in its development for decades, no preferences and subsidies, but rather a hard squeezing of all means and values ​​.. These draconian inhuman measures should show everyone else what happens in the event of a riot! But the government showed its full impotence .. and it began ..
      pc: To restore order of this magnitude, the USSR then still had all the necessary forces and means, the people in the USSR would definitely support such measures, the impudence and wickedness of the southern republics then already pretty much gave people ..
      1. ism_ek
        ism_ek April 4 2016 14: 00
        -4
        Quote: max702
        I will ask such a question where did the collapse of the USSR begin? Right from the massacre of Armenians in Baku ..
        And they forgot about a series of terrorist attacks in Moscow in 1977 ... At first, under Gorbachev, the Armenians of Krabakh were cleaned up. There 40 thousand Azerbaijanis lived ...
        The Armenians were very unhappy with the USSR, because the Soviet leaders refused to fight with Turkey because of the "Great Armenia" The 1914 Armenian Genocide was not officially recognized in the USSR.
    8. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy April 4 2016 15: 59
      +3
      With all due respect to the author of the article, who tried to look at the situation from the outside, he did not succeed.

      In view of the fact that the history of the region and the history of the military part of the conflict were completely ignored.

      Accordingly, the author does not understand the causal relationship of the current events, hinting that the reasons for the escalation are the position of "pawns in a big and bloody geopolitical game" and seeing the reason for the unresolved conflict in someone else's interests from outside.

      External forces always and everywhere try to turn any situation to their advantage, this is normal. The question is, do not blame them for all sins.

      And the video is gorgeous - I wonder why then from "paradise" to Az.R. a bunch of Azerbaijanis looking for a better share in Russia, trading in the markets?

      Yes, as a Christian, I really "liked" the montages, where aviation is bombing an obviously Christian church.

      I don’t know how the situation will end, but the Armenians will be better than the Azerbaijanis.
      1. Walking
        Walking April 5 2016 08: 14
        +1
        When the Armenians don’t give up Karabakh, they will fight for it, and Azerbaijan doesn’t when they don’t accept that Karabakh belongs to the Armenians. This is the situation.
        1. xasharat
          xasharat April 14 2016 16: 31
          0
          So we will destroy !!!
          Karabakh has an Azerbaijani meaning. Black Garden.
          Nothing in Armenian.

          We will destroy and the war showed our solidarity.
          We will not give them peace in our lands.
  2. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin April 4 2016 06: 13
    +8
    To say that I am shocked to say nothing !!!!!
    Why why? It will not give anything good to anyone ...... why ???
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 April 4 2016 06: 20
      +10
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      To say that I am shocked to say nothing !!!!!
      Why why?

      Uraina, Syria, and before that - Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia ....
      The world seemed to be crazy.
      And set fire to the Anglo-Saxons with the Bilderbergs
      1. baudolino
        baudolino April 4 2016 07: 49
        +4
        And there is Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan - the most unpleasant area for Russia.
  3. avvg
    avvg April 4 2016 06: 15
    +3
    In my opinion, only Moscow can put them at the negotiating table and can stat the guarantors of peace in the Transcaucasus.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 April 4 2016 06: 53
      +15
      They planted them more than once. Only now, sly Caucasian guys measure their dignity before each other, hiding behind the backs of the "big boys": Azerbaijan is flirting with Turkey, Armenia is hosting Russian bases, and in the end they run to Moscow to complain.
      Is it time to look for the source and sponsors of the conflict? But at the same time, and stop inflating hysteria in society, punishing provocateurs.
      1. 72jora72
        72jora72 April 4 2016 11: 24
        +2
        They planted them more than once. Only now, sly Caucasian guys measure their dignity before each other, hiding behind the backs of the "big boys": Azerbaijan is flirting with Turkey, Armenia is hosting Russian bases, and in the end they run to Moscow to complain.
        Actually, it was the intervention of Russia that prevented the Armenians from implementing the plan of attack on the central regions of Azerbaijan
      2. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy April 4 2016 16: 15
        0
        Everything is fine there without sponsors - read the history of the conflict. Around the beginning of the 20th century.
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 4 2016 07: 11
      +24
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, only Moscow can put them at the negotiating table and can stat the guarantors of peace in the Transcaucasus.

      At one time, living in one of the republics of Central Asia, (Turkmenistan) talked with his grandfather about what and how is arranged in this world under the name East.
      So grandfather said that in one of the conversations with representatives of cf. Asians, they themselves expressed satisfaction with the fact that the citizens of Slavic appearance stood at the head of the enterprises of our city (either the boss or deputy, necessarily Russians) They say it’s good, otherwise the internecine strife would be tortured, and they get slap-blows from the older brother, and there is no property. After all, both in the East and in Buryatia, the principle is the same, clanism, it’s worth one to climb, and in case of uncontrolledness, in a year, it will drag all the relatives there, and it doesn’t matter that in some matters they are complete zero, the main duty relatives fulfilled.
      There will be order only in one case, if you take them and include them in the Russian Federation, and explain who is the boss in the house. (Do we need it?)
      Or they need to offer a common external aggressor, in the person of ISIS, Turkey, or other, then they will unite, Or make them a general proposal that they can’t refuse, (fist under my nose, and remind about Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia, how it ended for these states, from whose partners Aliyev visited recently.)
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser April 4 2016 08: 16
        +4
        This is for sure - small but proud "peoples of Central Asian nationality" can live in peace only under the subordination of a "white padishah" who rules either from Buckingham Palace or from the Kremlin. Now our sworn “partners” from the District of Columbia are claiming this leadership role in the age-old “BIG GAME”.
        1. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. April 4 2016 08: 23
          -2
          Quote: OldWiser
          These are for sure - small but proud "peoples of Central Asian nationality"

          Sorry, but you also included Armenians and Azerbaijanis in this category?
          1. Vitwin
            Vitwin April 4 2016 08: 32
            +8
            Quote: Pinky F.
            Quote: OldWiser
            These are for sure - small but proud "peoples of Central Asian nationality"

            Sorry, but you also included Armenians and Azerbaijanis in this category?

            Of course, they are also from the "picking"))
            Kamrad everything below Russia on the map is a baler, do not confuse wink
            1. Pinkie F.
              Pinkie F. April 4 2016 08: 41
              +1
              Quote: Vitwin
              Of course, they are also from the "picking"))
              Kamrad everything below Russia on the map is a baler, do not confuse

              laughing Clear. It’s time for the children to write a textbook on geopolitical anatomy.
            2. Corsair
              Corsair April 4 2016 09: 44
              +2
              Quote: Vitwin
              Of course, they are also from the "picking"))

              what If, according to Tyutchev, Europe is #ope, then the Caucasus is, according to the silhouette of Russia, if you look, maximum land under its hind legs. The underbelly is Kazakhstan, China.

              wassat ps The truth with Kaliningrad is quite funny associations.
            3. apostoll
              apostoll April 4 2016 14: 50
              +2
              Interestingly you assigned roles? There is an underbelly, there is a head, ... there is ... a.
              do you really think you're in your head? Judging by the class division, and the failed economy of our government, we are just in between two half ... oh, very close in the "hole" ...
              To help a neighbor, and to reconcile the fighters will still have to ... the noise "under the windows" will not let anyone sleep peacefully)))) Here the main thing is not to miss the initiative, and not to let the verbal bullying (the so-called information war ") against us. ahead of the curve.
              Simply put, crush the war in the bud! They didn’t have time in Ukraine, now we are slurping a full spoon.
              Crimea was returned, and then thank God !!!
              A huge request - do not divide people into people of a higher and lower order, "underbelly, there or some other area", but PEOPLE also live there, they have dreams, desires, they have CHILDREN ...
              And if you are going to drop out the lower ones, then you should go to Hitler ... the straight road ...
              THERE ARE NO BAD PEOPLE- THERE ARE SPECIALS WHO WON'T WISH TO LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY AND TRADITIONS OF THE COMPANY !!! THirstYING FOR ABSOLUTE POWER IS NOT IMPORTANT AT WHAT PRICE !!!
              That's what you have to fight !!! That's who you need to send to prison!
      2. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser April 4 2016 08: 16
        -2
        This is for sure - small but proud "peoples of Central Asian nationality" can live in peace only under the subordination of a "white padishah" who rules either from Buckingham Palace or from the Kremlin. Now our sworn “partners” from the District of Columbia are claiming this leadership role in the age-old “BIG GAME”.
      3. Seal
        Seal April 4 2016 08: 43
        +9
        Or they need to offer a common external aggressor, represented by ISIS, Turkey

        Should Armenians offer Turkey as an aggressor? What for ? Is there anything new for Armenians in this? Even without you they consider Turkey an aggressor. hi
        And to offer Turkey as an aggressor to Azerbaijan? Well at least it's funny lol

        ISIS?
        Well, for this you need to at least somehow persuade ISIS that it has views of Armenia and Azerbaijan. Well, in my opinion, ISIS today is the only thing that comes to these two former Soviet republics. He has nothing more important. hi

        Oh, and let's offer them Georgia as an aggressor !!! fellow
      4. garnik64
        garnik64 April 4 2016 21: 14
        0
        Where? Ashgabat, Kizyl-Arvat.
    3. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris April 4 2016 08: 10
      +2
      Do you know who you can send a guarantor ... a sword ... Take him by the scruff and throw him there ... Let him even erase his knees, crawling belittling both of them ...
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, only Moscow can put them at the negotiating table and can stat the guarantors of peace in the Transcaucasus.
    4. Seal
      Seal April 4 2016 08: 21
      +3
      What, and in this powder keg the plug must be us? Or can we look for someone else? In my opinion, we have already shed enough of our Russian blood in this figs that we do not need ( the word "not needed" does not apply to the oil region) Transcaucasia.
    5. 0255
      0255 April 4 2016 09: 50
      -6
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, only Moscow can put them at the negotiating table and can stat the guarantors of peace in the Transcaucasus.

      Moscow has been unable to reconcile Ukraine and LDN for 2 years.
  4. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 April 4 2016 06: 17
    +6
    In the USSR, there wasn’t a lot of mixed families between Armenia and Azerbaijan. In the 90s, the massacre of Armenians began in Sumgait. Whoever pushed these swings of murder pushes these swings now.
    1. Seal
      Seal April 4 2016 06: 36
      +9
      There was no such conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the USSR
      But the conflict smoldered. Communicated at the end of the Brezhnev era with both sides. I've heard enough of such horror stories about the cases of massacres in the areas bordering between Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Even if all the stories were divided by 10, it would be pretty creepy. And the main thing is that in the words of both those and others there was such hatred for each other ..... And what is unpleasant is that in their "troubles" both of them globally blamed us.
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 4 2016 07: 16
      +9
      Quote: Alexander 3
      In the USSR there was no such conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, there were a lot of mixed families.

      All this is true, but still in the late 60s and early 70s, there the attitude towards the Russians was similar as in the late 80s in Western Ukraine, maybe it was an isolated case, and so my family member was unlucky at that time, but the sediment remained said and unpleasant.
      The East respects power, take them by the scruff of the neck, and put them like kittens in one basket, and explain to them again, otherwise they will make such porridge there that we’ll take a long time to disentangle this Caucasian knot and chop it.
    3. ism_ek
      ism_ek April 4 2016 07: 28
      +5
      Quote: Alexander 3
      There was no such conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan in the USSR

      And the Armenian terrorists did not blow up the subway cars ...
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 April 4 2016 21: 21
        +2
        And the Caucasian Tatars did not slaughter 5 thousand unarmed soldiers of the Russian army. Maybe we won’t.
      2. bertgolz
        bertgolz April 5 2016 03: 33
        0
        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%
        D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%B2_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B5_(1977)
    4. andj61
      andj61 April 4 2016 08: 22
      +7
      Quote: Alexander 3
      In the USSR there was no such conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, there were a lot of mixed families.

      It was just in the 80s that the acute phase of this conflict began. At the time of the Spitak earthquake (1988) and the elimination of its consequences - the conflict died out a bit, and then resumed in an even more acute form. And on both sides.
      Now consider one aspect of the article:
      Polad Bulbuloglu:
      In order to resolve the conflict, it is necessary to remove the root cause. And the root cause (lies) in the occupation of Azerbaijan’s territory by Armenia, and this is an internationally recognized fact. As long as the occupation corps stands on the lands of Azerbaijan, yes, this will continue, no one hides this, until the last Armenian soldier leaves the Azerbaijani territory ....

      And here is the author’s comment:
      In fact, the Azerbaijani ambassador made it clear that Baku was ready to use force against Nagorno-Karabakh in order to liberate this territory from the "Armenian occupation".

      Let's answer the question: what percentage of the total occupied territory is the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, which is the subject and cause of the conflict? 1/3? 1/4?
      But the rest of the OCCUPIED territories — Karabakh, we won’t take into account — it’s still a disputed territory — Azerbaijan, from which the locals are removed and where no one lives at all (the Armenian population was not there) why does the author not take into account? However, like the leadership of Armenia and Karabakh.
      For agreement you need:
      1. To agree on the withdrawal of all Armenian troops from the territory of Azerbaijan, with the exception of Karabakh, while ensuring a guaranteed transport corridor to Armenia.
      2. To postpone the resolution of the Karabakh issue for 50-100 years, transferring the administration of this territory to either a jointly created committee or the UN Commissariat - as agreed.
      3. To lift the transport blockade of Armenia from Azerbaijan.
      4. To ensure real separation of the parties - UN troops here could really help.
      Everyone is interested in resolving the conflict. Now very few people live in Karabakh itself. The conflict is fueling itself now, but it is necessary that it is not fed at all
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 April 4 2016 08: 43
        +9
        According to the population census of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic of 2005 of the year, the population in the republic amounted to 137 737 people, of which Armenians - 137 380 people (99,74%), Russians - 171 people (0,1%), Greeks - 22 people (0,02%), Ukrainians - 21 people (0,02%), Georgians - 12 people (0,01%), Azerbaijanis - 6 people.
        Yes, the Armenians captured part of the Azerbaijani territory. Yes, they broke through the corridor to the NKR. But what is Aliyev going to do, for example, after the victory and capture of the NKR? Evict Armenians? Engage in genocide? To hell with a hundred thousand hostile population? In my opinion, he is happy with what is happening now. Periodically play with muscles, like a jock on the stage and maintain hysteria in Azerbaijani society.
        There are two outputs:
        Quote: andj61 To postpone the resolution of the Karabakh issue for 50-100 years, transferring the administration of this territory to either a jointly created committee or the UN Commissariat - as agreed.
        To ensure a real separation of the parties - UN troops could really help here.

        1 and 3 points are also good, but their implementation is the guarantee of the Azerbaijani side. I doubt that the Armenians will agree.
        1. ism_ek
          ism_ek April 4 2016 10: 19
          -3
          Quote: avva2012
          Yes, they broke through the corridor to the NKR.

          In addition to the Lachin corridor, annexed 10% of the territory of Azerbaijan. They must be given to Azerbaijan, or exchanged ...
        2. andj61
          andj61 April 4 2016 11: 26
          +2
          Quote: avva2012
          1 and 3 points are also good, but their implementation is the guarantee of the Azerbaijani side. I doubt that the Armenians will agree.

          The Armenians receive the lifting of the blockade and the recognition of at least some - albeit the deferred status of Karabakh. And now the people are actually leaving Karabakh, but they have already left Azerbaijan’s occupied territories for a long time, and there is actually a single population left there.
          It is clear that politicians cannot concede: neither the Armenians - they are the winners, these are their troops on the territory of the "enemy", nor the Azerbaijani - not only have the "legitimate" Karabakh been "wrested", but also the territory of the "indigenous" Azerbaijani regions occupy, hundreds of thousands of refugees from these areas "put pressure" on the authorities.
          But it is necessary to come to an agreement - no uncle can resolve this conflict from the side, no mediators will help - decades of conflict testify to this. You need to sit at the table and agree on the basis of mutual concessions. But intermediaries can give guarantees, and even ensure the implementation of these guarantees.
          The only alternative to this is war. And there will be no winners: both sides will wash themselves with blood. In this case, the color of the nation on both sides will perish. Does anyone need this?
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 April 4 2016 14: 54
            0
            Quote: andj61 But intermediaries can give guarantees, and even ensure the implementation of these guarantees.

            Of all the possible mediators, only Russia is not profitable for the conflict in this area. The UN could play a similar role, but over the past 25 years, the attitude towards this organization has become increasingly pessimistic. USA, Europe, well, certainly not.
            Russia, unfortunately, is not so strong that there is someone who would not want to substitute a guarantor.
            Therefore, so far, in order not to disperse forces, it would be beneficial for us to leave everything as it is.
            1. Alexander 3
              Alexander 3 April 4 2016 15: 43
              +1
              Leaving a smoldering conflict, this is stupid in the first place, it will bring you problems when you are not ready, as an elder brother, Russia is obliged to put things in order. Russia does not quarrel with brothers. The Russian Empire is what we should strive for. Russians are the concept that Peter the Great originated . Excuse me if you didn’t say so, but the thought of Great Peter, Lenin, remains. There are none of these now. Everyone measures everything with money. (Sorry if I said something wrong) LET'S LIVE PEACEFULLY!
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        3. Xent
          Xent April 4 2016 23: 04
          +2
          Quote: avva2012
          But what is Aliyev going to do, for example, after the victory and capture of the NKR?

          I will answer the question with facts ...


          The results of the barbaric actions of Azerbaijani soldiers with all glaring evidence demonstrated the events in the Talish captured and then liberated Armenian village.

          On April 2, an Azerbaijani unit broke into a village in which several civilians remained, reports Hetq.am- сообщает:

          Azerbaijani soldiers shot Valera Khalapyan and his wife Razmela, cut off their ears. They also shot Marusya Khalapyan (born 1924).



          Photos of Hakob Poghosyan
      2. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy April 4 2016 16: 20
        +5
        Quote: andj61
        But the rest of the OCCUPIED territories — Karabakh, we won’t take into account — it’s still a disputed territory — Azerbaijan, from which the locals are removed and where no one lives at all (the Armenian population was not there) why does the author not take into account? However, like the leadership of Armenia and Karabakh.


        Read about where the Armenian population of those territories that you write about went to (at the same time check about the Russian population). And look where the Armenian population of Nakhichevan and the Armenian and Russian population of Baku.
        1. andj61
          andj61 April 4 2016 20: 43
          -3
          Quote: ButchCassidy
          Read about where the Armenian population of those territories that you write about went to (at the same time check about the Russian population). And look where the Armenian population of Nakhichevan and the Armenian and Russian population of Baku.

          About those territories about which I wrote - the Armenians were in very small quantities there. These are the territories adjacent to Karabakh, the Armenians did not live there, and the Russians, too. About Baku - after the Armenian pogroms - and sometimes Russians even got there - many decided to leave there - and they did it right. Besides, why mention the facts of genocide? They clearly were. There were also facts of direct squeezing of the population - Armenians - from Nakhichevan, Azerbaijanis - from Armenia. But no one squeezed Armenians out of Baku until the mid-80s. At the end of the 80s of the 20th century, there were practically no Azerbaijanis in Armenia, with the exception of several enclaves within Armenia that were officially part of Azerbaijan. Now these enclaves are already part of Armenia, and Azerbaijanis are not there. Even in the 20th century, the Russian population was practically squeezed out of Armenia - now it is a mono-ethnic country, but there were many Russians 40 years ago. Answer where are they?
          Almost the same mono-ethnic country is Azerbaijan. But there were more Armenians in Azerbaijan, up to a million, and all of them were either expelled (the option was to leave for themselves) or destroyed. There were no fewer Russians, and they were also almost gone.
          Now there is a fact: in addition to Karabakh, for which there is a dispute, the Armenians occupy a decent territory, of which there was no dispute. Several hundred thousand Azerbaijanis were evicted from this territory (option — they themselves left). You can understand the Armenians - you need to protect your own in Karabakh. But Azerbaijanis, too: why were they kicked out of the territory about which the dispute did not even go? It would be nice to provide a transport corridor, otherwise the Armenians occupied much more land ...
          And no one needs war - neither one nor the other. With the continuation of the conflict, both will be washed with blood. Nobody needs it! We have to negotiate!
          1. Butchcassidy
            Butchcassidy April 5 2016 13: 26
            +1
            Do not squeeze out say? But doesn’t it confuse the fact that for several hundred thousand Armenian population of Baku there was one Armenian school?

            The plains and part of Nagorno-Karabakh were dearmenized during the massacre in the early 20th century. And Nakhichevan in an administrative way (it was impossible to get a job with an Armenian surname and solve any issue, therefore there was an internal migration within the Union) was also cleared of the Armenians who survived the Armenian Genocide, committed both by the Young Turks and the Musavatists led by Fatali Khan Khoysky. The Armenian cultural heritage was barbarously destroyed, the last egregious case was the barbarous destruction of several thousand medieval cross stones (cross-stele, a characteristic element of the small architecture of Armenians) from 1998 to 2005. in Nakhichevan.

            Nobody "squeezed out" Azerbaijanis from Armenia, all of them successfully and often profitably exchanged their housing in the Armenian SSR with refugees from the AzSSR. And no one robbed or killed them, which cannot be said about the Armenian and Russian population of the AzSSR.

            No one has ever squeezed Russians out of Armenia; the departure of the majority of the Russian population (mainly specialists and military personnel in distribution) was connected with the difficult situation in Armenia in the 90s against the backdrop of the collapse of the Union, earthquake and war. Actually, not one million Armenians left Armenia in those years, but are you talking about Russians? Everyone was looking for a better life, but they never kicked anyone out. Another serious factor in the outflow of the Russian population was the translation of office work into Armenian.

            Karabakh is not the artificially cut-off border of the NKAR, which was deprived of the common border with the ArmSSR in the Soviet years. And the Armenian population (remaining after the massacre of the early 20th century) inhabited a much larger territory than the territory of the NKAR. That's why I proposed to study the issue in retrospect, in order to understand where and what comes from.

            Quote: andj61
            And no one needs war - neither one nor the other. With the continuation of the conflict, both will be washed with blood. Nobody needs it! We have to negotiate!


            You are mistaken that nobody needs a conflict. Az.R. is also needed to distract public opinion and explain all the problems to his population by the Karabakh conflict and the fault of the Armenians. This is with the oil and gas excess profits, which steadily entered the budget of the Az.R. during the 90-2000s. Have you been to the market in your city? Talk to Azerbaijani sellers - why are they from Az. left if they could live almost like in Qatar?
            Turkey also needs the conflict as an element of weakening Armenia and tension in the region - and it includes not only Armenia, Georgia and Azerbaijan, but also Russia and Iran. The "Gray Wolves" - the ones that killed Oleg Peshkov, the Su-24 pilot, fought regularly and, according to available information, are now fighting on the side of Az.R. Chapter a. branch of the "Gray Wolves" - Iskander Hamidov was the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs under Abulfaz Elchibey.
            1. Seal
              Seal April 8 2016 09: 06
              0
              No one has ever squeezed Russians out of Armenia; the departure of the majority of the Russian population (mainly specialists and military personnel in distribution) was connected with the difficult situation in Armenia in the 90s against the backdrop of the collapse of the Union, earthquake and war. Actually, not one million Armenians left Armenia in those years, but are you talking about Russians?


              Whom do you frighten with everyday difficulties? Us Russians? Yes, in our country, especially at the end of the Union, almost all of Russia beyond the MKAD had exactly the same living conditions as in Armenia. Without light, without gas, without constantly flowing water from a tap.
              In Tajikistan, there was also a bloody civil war - but even then, as a percentage of the number of ours who had previously lived there, fewer fled from there than from Armenia.
              Yes, even Molokans, absolutely unpretentious in economic and domestic terms, ran from Armenia. They are not even supposed to use electricity at all (although of course many use it when taking sin on their souls). But disconnecting electricity is like saving the soul. Under the USSR, in Armenia there were over 50 (fifty) purely Molokan villages. now only 2 (two) remain. Violet and Lermontovo. And they are already half Armenian.

              In Estonia, all office work was translated into Estonian as far back as 1988. So what ? A lot of ours escaped their Estonia for this reason?
              This is what you suck out far-fetched reasons right from your finger, instead of honestly saying that you did not need any non-Armenians in Armenia. And now they are not needed.
  5. pts-m
    pts-m April 4 2016 06: 17
    +3
    The author is right. In the past, the blame for what happened was blamed on the "older brother", but now that "almost blood brothers" cannot share among themselves. There should be no brothers, there should only be equal participants in interstate relations.
  6. Seal
    Seal April 4 2016 06: 20
    +1
    For almost 30 years now, there has been a state of "cold war" between Armenians and Azerbaijanis, which periodically warmed up. At the same time, several dozen (officially), and maybe several hundred (unofficially), perished every year, people on each side. During all this time, it was not possible to agree peacefully. And we must admit that it would not have worked out in the coming decades either. Neither the Armenians will ever voluntarily give up Karabakh, nor the Azerbaijanis. This means that the Armenians and Azerbaijanis, alas, are destined to either live forever in a state of "cold war" with inevitable annual casualties, or once a hot fight.
    So maybe it would be better for them to fight once hotly now - and calm down on that? After all, one must realize that weapons are becoming more powerful and destructive every year. And that Armenians and Azerbaijanis have more and more of these weapons every year. It was not enough that Armenia and Azerbaijan, God forbid, also acquire nuclear weapons! Even if just "dirty bombs" !! So, for me, it’s better if they fight hotly now, until they have such a weapon in their hands that they can also hook the countries around them with their fight, or even half the world will be able to hook.
    1. ImPerts
      ImPerts April 4 2016 06: 30
      +2
      Quote: Seal
      It was still not enough that Armenia and Azerbaijan, God forbid, also acquire nuclear weapons!

      The conflict will be resolved, but there will be no winners. And the neighbors will get around.
    2. ism_ek
      ism_ek April 4 2016 07: 33
      +4
      Quote: Seal
      Neither the Armenians voluntarily will ever abandon Karabakh, nor the Azerbaijanis.

      In addition to Karabakh, the Armenians occupied a significant part of Azerbaijan to straighten the border. This is what infuriates Azerbaijan.
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 April 4 2016 12: 56
        +1
        This is the low part of Karabakh. And in the territories of Kelbajar, Kubatly
        created Red Kurdistan. Over time, these lands were included in the structure of Azerbaijan itself. Among other things, local Kurds also liberated Lachin.
        1. ism_ek
          ism_ek April 4 2016 17: 26
          +1
          Quote: garnik64
          This is the low part of Karabakh. And in the territories of Kelbajar, Kubatly
          created Red Kurdistan. Over time, these lands were included in the structure of Azerbaijan itself. Among other things, local Kurds also liberated Lachin.

          And how many Kurds live in "Red Kurdistan" now? The Armenians drove everyone out. Even Lachin was given an Armenian name.
          1. garnik64
            garnik64 April 4 2016 21: 39
            +1
            The Kurds left, they were not expelled. Yes, we put up with them, there is a reason. Lachin - Berdzor Armenian name.
            1. Butchcassidy
              Butchcassidy April 5 2016 13: 28
              0
              You just need to explain to the people that Berdzor has been known since the 15th century, and Lachin - since 1923.
      2. Androsh
        Androsh April 4 2016 14: 47
        +5
        Our closest neighbors, seeing the inaction of Russia in Ukraine, in the Donbass (although civilians (Russians) are killed there even with prohibited weapons) and also want to solve their problems by military means.
        99% was an attack by Azeris on the NKR (reconnaissance in battle) in order to test the reaction of Russia and the world, plus to find out the weak spots in the defense. Armenians, I think, are ready not only for defense.
        And for those who don’t know, the NKR separated after the massacre in Sumgait, when Azerbaijanis massacred women, children and the elderly.
        1. Butchcassidy
          Butchcassidy April 5 2016 13: 40
          0
          In the course of the latest hostilities, according to available information, Baku used TOS-1, Grady and Smerchi. Part of TOS-1 and Gradov, according to the information of the Armenian side, destroyed

          In order for the general public to appreciate the power of these weapons, I think it is enough to mention that the Grads made an indelible impression on the Pakistani military when there was a threat of their entry into the war on the side of the "spirits" in Afghanistan, which caused the Pakistanis to fall on their knees and began to pray, thinking that the end of the world has come. And Stepanakert for many months in the 1990s. bombed from Grad. And now again ...
    3. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 4 2016 15: 57
      -8
      Quite right, LET US normally bring the matter to an end and there will be peace for everyone in the Caucasus !!!
    4. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 April 4 2016 17: 25
      0
      A bad world is better than a good war.
    5. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy April 6 2016 11: 41
      0
      In fact, ordinary Azerbaijanis have long been "give a damn" about Karabakh, people just like many in the region and in Armenia as well - just survive. But calls to "return Karabakh" are constantly circulated in the press, this topic is constantly raised by politicians, journalists, religious leaders close to the court of I. Aliyev, take the same Sheikh-ul-Islam Allahshukur Pashazade, who both inside the country and abroad declares that "Armenians are the main enemy, and they HAVE to fight also with the" inner Armenians "(this is generally a clinic!).

      Anti-Armenian hysteria is an integral part of Baku's policy, both external and internal. All the problems in the country are explained by the machinations of the Armenian lobby, and for those who disagree with the point of view, there is a "chic" repressive apparatus. What are the only refusals to enter the country of official delegations, if among their members there are Armenians / people with an Armenian surname / people whose surname resembles an Armenian one. As was the case with the official representative of Avtovaz, when he went to open a salon in Baku, and already at the airport he was removed from the flight and his colleague, who began to be indignant, began to be indignant (the situation was discussed on the radio with Solovyov). What is the refusal of accreditation of a BBC journalist, who had an Armenian surname inherited from her ex-husband. I'm not even talking about Armenian athletes in the national teams of Armenia, as well as in Russia and other countries, when they are booed at official sports events or thrown rubbish and stones. Even boxer Misha Aloyan got it, although he is not an Armenian, but a Yezidi, but his surname is similar to Armenian.
      And there are many such examples.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik April 4 2016 06: 21
    +7
    Or do you really like being turned into pawns in a big and bloody geopolitical game? ...... Apparently like ..
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  9. apro
    apro April 4 2016 06: 23
    +12
    Today, Moscow has nothing to influence in the Caucasus, there is no money either for an empire or a unifying ideology. Today, Armenia doesn’t mean that we are by and large foreign, completely independent and independent countries with which we congratulate them and Russia and we must solve our problems the adviser is neither the defendant, they created and developed the Karabakh problem themselves and let them do it themselves and decide what it was before let it stay there, the Soviet methods of solution are not suitable now. The main thing is that Russia doesn’t get in there again and is not between two fires. who is to blame let them decide by military means if there is no brain and desire to agree. Russia absolutely does not need this conflict, there is nothing to influence by and large. So we wish both sides victory in the battle.
  10. Wolka
    Wolka April 4 2016 06: 32
    +3
    Enemy is doing everything to kindle fire near the borders of Russia and draw Russia into these conflicts, now Transnistria will also flare up, but Donbass has boiled again
  11. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 4 2016 06: 34
    +7
    Polad Bulbuloglu:
    (...)
    To express concern (from Russia - author's note) is very good, we highly appreciate such concern for us, but the conflict must be resolved.


    Palad, you're wrong! Russia will not decide anything for you. Change rhetoric, Russia owes nothing to anyone, unlike your leaders. Two Muds have been sharing a piece of land transformed into a cemetery for 30 years.
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  12. 72jora72
    72jora72 April 4 2016 06: 34
    +3
    I can’t understand what a respected author wanted to say with this article? Should the Armenians gather the Chumudans and leave for Armenia as a friendly line? Or did the author forget how the conflict began at all, or how did Karabakh end up as part of Azerbaijan?
    1. Volodin
      April 4 2016 06: 47
      +3
      Quote: 72jora72
      Should Armenians gather chumudans and leave for Armenia in a friendly line?

      And where did you find this in the article? .. If you do not understand what the material is about (although everything seems to be extremely transparent), then at least you don’t need to pull by the ears what the article is not about.
      1. IS-80
        IS-80 April 4 2016 10: 20
        0
        Quote: Volodin
        And where did you find this in the article? .. If you do not understand what the material is about (although everything seems to be extremely transparent), then at least you don’t need to pull by the ears what the article is not about.

        And in the article it is generally not clear what it is about. Some abstract we are for all good versus all bad. And once again to brand the five-column liberals. The impression is that you have developed some kind of conditioned reflex to more or less loud events. Event, bang another empty article nothing. "Tralya-la, trulu-lyu, again these liberals muddy the waters." However, what to take from you from the corrupt representatives of the yellow press indulging the low tastes of the commoner vulgaris.
    2. Seal
      Seal April 4 2016 08: 13
      -2
      Or did the author forget how the conflict began at all, or how did Karabakh end up as part of Azerbaijan?

      Yes, indeed, well, how did he end up there?

      Let's look a little deeper into history. Well, let's not go into pre-historical times, where there is a lot of all blah-blah-blah about "great empires and kingdoms of antiquity", but when no one can prove anything anyway. We look at the nearest history from reliable times.

      How did the Kartli Tsar Vakhtang VI justify himself to our Peter I, why he and other Georgian and Armenian kings and bastards did not come to our aid in 1722, when our troops, led by Peter I, occupied Derbent without a fight, they were starving in it, since the storm destroyed all our marine vessels with supplies.
      And he justified himself by saying that he walked, walked, but did not reach. Since he was forced to suppress the Lezghin uprising in Karabakh.

      So what follows from this?
      The first one. It is likely that in the beginning of the 18th century, Karabakh was under Georgian (Kartli) jurisdiction.
      The second one. At the beginning of the 18th century, Lezgins lived in Karabakh. Which at the most inopportune moment for us rebelled against Vakhtang VI Kartli.

      Or maybe Vakhtang VI himself was not really planning to help our Tsar, who for some reason believed in them all. Here Vakhtang VI took advantage of the very first excuse not to go.
      So what are the options for resolving the Karabakh issue from the "historical point of view"? Give it to Georgia or the Lezgins?
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 April 4 2016 13: 17
        +1
        Nonsense. Hammer the Armenian principalities of Artsakh on the Internet.
  13. Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 4 2016 06: 34
    +1
    End of the 80s. How did all the newspapers of the "Popular Fronts" warm up this topic. It's the same now.

    And so everything is repeated, as in Rustam, son of Zola. The field belongs to the dead on both sides. But this is a solution from fairy tales.
  14. individual
    individual April 4 2016 06: 45
    +4
    With all due respect to the top leaderships of Armenia and Azerbaijan, I want to say that these tops have a characteristic feature of literally running on a lying rake and with each stroke of the handle of these same rakes on their own teeth or on the forehead ...

    Well, our civilization does not know how to circumvent this inventory.
    It is necessary to submit a request to the United Nations on the elimination of these gardener's weapons. am wassat fellow
  15. Holsten
    Holsten April 4 2016 07: 02
    +3
    No news agency in the world has the resources to provide HD coverage of the world's most relevant and iconic events. On the other hand, why invent a bicycle, if the film "The Tail Is Twisting the Dog" has already been shot, in which everything is chewed: the easiest way is to shoot a choreographed conflict. And then you can go along the chain, i.e. operator - director - customer, if the answer is of course interested.
    So that there is no desire to look for an answer, he is immediately given - the reason is that a Russian military base has settled in Armenia, and in Russia "the bloody tyrant Putin" is in power. In this case, it seems strange that there are no allusions about American military bases and the endless armed confrontation in Iraq, despite the fact that it is literally two steps away from Nagorno-Karabakh.
  16. oldav
    oldav April 4 2016 07: 02
    +1
    Just imagine; your daughter and your wife are arguing. Whom do you support? Most likely a daughter, but you both love. Russia is in the same position. Well, you need to stop the disassembly.
  17. oldav
    oldav April 4 2016 07: 04
    +2
    By the way! How is Herman Sterligov there? He went there for permanent residence.
    1. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy April 5 2016 13: 42
      0
      already back. But his wife has his own fashion studio there and he has an old water mill.
  18. brr1
    brr1 April 4 2016 07: 11
    +6
    The video is cool. Revealed the whole essence. Led by a bald eagle.
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 4 2016 07: 23
    +4
    Apparently, today only this (British) media has enough resources.

    It's not about resources, but about the possession of information, what and when will happen in this region. "I am tormented by vague doubts ..." (film "Ivan Vasilyevich Changes His Profession").
  20. old pioneer
    old pioneer April 4 2016 07: 28
    -2
    It seems to me alone that the presidents of Azerbaijan and Turkey are outwardly similar? Without any kind of version, I note, just really, like a relative.
    1. Seal
      Seal April 4 2016 08: 30
      +7
      These are similar ????????????????
      Well, except that with costumes and bald patches :))))))))))))
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 April 4 2016 13: 20
        +1
        If you can take a photo with Nazarbayev, it also took place.
      2. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy April 6 2016 11: 45
        0
        no, not like. According to the anthropological type, Aliyev is an Armenoid (yes, this is not a joke, this is the name of the antrotype), and Erdogan is more likely a Caspian.
  21. Fox
    Fox April 4 2016 07: 32
    +3
    in my opinion, situevina is like in the Crimea: a referendum and ... download more. but an Azerbaijani does not go for it, that’s the war.
  22. cap
    cap April 4 2016 07: 55
    +3
    The roots of Karabakh are far from today.

    "Sponsors of the Gorbachevs? So their sponsors were the Armenians from Stavropol and the Armenian lobby. R. Gorbacheva created a fertile ground for this by receiving a diamond necklace from the Armenian community." We must do our best to promote friendship between the Soviet and Armenian peoples! "(SOVIET and Armenian ????????????????) - she said. The Armenian mafia helped Gorbachev in the sale of Soviet gold. link to maxpark.com "http://maxpark.com/community/13/content/1819708

    Well, the well-known Bible donated by R.M. in the States. Where is she by the way?
    “The list of gifts donated by Gorbacheva is two pages long. Some of the things were once“ asked ”from her by the workers of the Museum of the Revolution. It's hard to say what prevented them from organizing the promised exhibition, but the chain exhibits have since disappeared somewhere. in obtaining, which Gorbacheva prudently took from the keepers of the revolutionary past. "
    http://www.istmira.com/razlichnoe/raisa-gorbacheva-seriya-sled-v-istorii/page/47
    /

    The process began, then they dragged it on, shut up. And the porridge climbs out from under the cover. Like in a fairy tale.
    They say again, Putin is to blame.
    I think not. The legacy left by predecessors, even "that baggage" hi
    1. cap
      cap April 4 2016 08: 22
      +2
      Quote: cap
      I think not. The legacy left by predecessors, even "that baggage" hi


      Maybe someone forgot that the events in Karabakh, Sumgait, Tbilisi, Baku, Vilnius started back when the USSR was.
      How did it end? I think no need to explain. hi
      All that "now" is postponed "for later", sworn friends together with the main "skirmisher-rebuilder"
      which gives advice to the Russian leadership, living on a famous island.
  23. Kulneff2009
    Kulneff2009 April 4 2016 07: 59
    +2
    To express concern (from the Russian side - author's note) is very good, we highly appreciate such concern for us, but we need to resolve the conflict.

    Oh how! And the decision, it turns out, is again to be taken by Russia!
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 4 2016 08: 31
      +4
      Quote: Kulneff2009
      Oh how! And the decision, it turns out, is again to be taken by Russia!

      And why, in fact, the words of Bulbuloglu are interpreted in such a way? AZ takes quite an unambiguous position and does not invite Russia to interfere. "We expressed concern - thank you and enough, this is our business, we will solve it." Nobody sees in Russia a universal "solver", why is there foam?
  24. 1536
    1536 April 4 2016 08: 08
    0
    Secretary of State is working. It is only surprising how people can believe in the deception of the Americans and the British? Take a gun, go kill. And these will sit across the ocean and on the island, bathe in money, and openly scoff at the victims in the Caucasus, sending their negligent representative to grimace at the UN.
    Why didn’t the suitcase be taken from the bloody secretary of state? Maybe there would be no victims then.
  25. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 4 2016 08: 14
    +7
    Apparently, Azerbaijan decided to crush N.K. And seize "their" lands. Why did they need a small victorious war? Are there economic reasons again? Oil fell, Aliyev's resources fell sharply, and the people grumbled. It is necessary to distract, and the military parasites have stagnated ...
    Something like this picture is drawn.
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 April 4 2016 14: 25
      +2
      It looks like it. And the Turks must have “nodded their heads” to Aliyev sympathetically. Like, it's time to decide something, Ilham.
  26. guzik007
    guzik007 April 4 2016 08: 22
    +3
    It is foolish to hope that the conflict can be resolved peacefully. Considering what kind of tidbit it is, N. Karabakh, which is a valuable strategic resource for both countries living in a constant deficit of arable land favorable for agriculture. Moreover, given the mentality and ardor of both peoples, and considering how much blood was shed on both sides and the mountainous revenge. So the conflict has been there for decades, which, however, is not bad, given the fact that he binds the local leadership hand and foot, moderate their ambitions and claims to the northern neighbor. It is probably not good to say that, but politics is generally a dirty business and they (politicians) are always pragmatists rather than humanists when it is more profitable.
    Well, when it’s unprofitable, then they’re such humanists, mother don’t cry!
  27. dojjdik
    dojjdik April 4 2016 08: 35
    +1
    the Karabakhs have long been under the control of the Armenian cities of Agdam and Fizuli destroyed by the Armenians, although they have nothing to do with Karabakh, the Armenians have already won the Azerbaijanian war because of their self-confidence in losing; but they ask the winners from the Armenians in this case, what’s next? destroy Azerbaijan as a state? annihilate everyone without exception? but there is an opponent nearby, equal in strength, this is Turkey, can help the Kurds and not wreck senseless anger on the defeated, but besides this, you can also return their lands by joining them to Armenia; until we look at this mess, it’s unknown, although for a long time everything was for Russia to knock on the head and both
  28. darksoul
    darksoul April 4 2016 08: 56
    +1
    the first video is beautiful patriotic, and now when the conflict began the question: who in our markets will be more tangerines with oranges or their sellers?
  29. sevtrash
    sevtrash April 4 2016 08: 58
    +1
    Conflicts escalated after the collapse of the USSR, if the notorious liberals / revolutionaries were kept in tight rein - there would be no war.
    Freedom fighters should not be given freedom of action - otherwise it will be worse. Than a dictatorship. The question is where is the border, balance and how to control it.
  30. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 4 2016 09: 06
    +4
    Azerbaijan wants to take over the territory inhabited by another people with a different faith - the Armenians.
    Even if this happened, Azerbaijan would not become a more stable and strong state.
    Therefore, the best option is to let Nagorno-Karabakh decide its own fate.
  31. vvp2412
    vvp2412 April 4 2016 09: 44
    0
    Interesting video...
    where so many tanks and planes took? Draw - do not buy ...
    And at home it's one thing to draw on a computer, build another thing !!!!
    1. Leprekon
      Leprekon April 4 2016 10: 26
      +3
      What surprised me more was that the symbol of not Azerbaijan at all flies over all this armada ... a bald eagle.
    2. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 4 2016 11: 04
      -3
      How where, from you (from Russia) bought))
  32. Olezhek
    Olezhek April 4 2016 09: 57
    +2
    We do not understand the Caucasian mentality.

    There is even a proverb: "Skulls ALWAYS lie on the boundary line."
  33. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 April 4 2016 10: 04
    +6
    The solution to this conflict, among other things, like all others on the territory of the former USSR, only one thing is the restoration of the Russian state in its former borders, except Finland and Poland, (and mono with them laughing ) Otherwise, these under-states will continue to be used against Russia and there will never be any peace. The point is small, to become a power with such opportunities. And for this it is necessary first of all to restore order within the country.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 4 2016 10: 09
      -6
      Quote: Dimon-chik-79
      only one is the restoration of the Russian state in its former borders, except Finland and Poland

      funny morning fantasy. Does digestion help?
      Quote: Dimon-chik-79
      Case for small

      Well, call the little one.
      Quote: Dimon-chik-79
      become a power with such capabilities. And for this it is necessary first of all to restore order within the country.

      business ...
    2. Seal
      Seal April 4 2016 20: 22
      +1
      And what about this? Again on the same rake? Or on some "new principles"?
  34. Tired
    Tired April 4 2016 10: 45
    +1
    The Azerbaijani leader caved in under the United States, this is obvious. The only question is for what purpose? What can this conflict, if it starts, give Azerbaijan in principle? Difficult situation. Russia should try to stay out of the conflict before things get too far. On the other hand, if a serious clash is inevitable, the Russian leader will have a means of influencing the Armenian leader. If there is an opportunity to put pressure on Armenia (which has been overly "independent" lately) and drag it closer, this should be done immediately.
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      1. Tired
        Tired April 5 2016 04: 22
        0
        Here the problem is that Azerbaijan is attached to the States and further to Turkey since the nineties. Since the days of the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce. That is, if Russia simply tells Azerbaijan that he is right in his actions, then this will not affect anything. To tie Azerbaijan to Russia, you first need to untie it from the US and Turkey, and doing this by encouraging actions approved by the US and Turkey will not work.
  35. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur April 4 2016 11: 03
    0
    This is really a provocation. No one needs war, it makes no sense. Armenians live in Nagorno-Karabakh. If Azerbaijanis capture (suppose) they that all Armenians will be killed or deported? Or think that the Armenians living there will inflame love for them? And why should the Armenians seize the territory of Azerbaijan when, due to the war in Nagorno-Karabakh, the people scattered well, etc.
  36. nivander
    nivander April 4 2016 11: 12
    +1
    Erdagan’s ears no longer hide
  37. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 4 2016 11: 14
    -6
    https://www.facebook.com/oleg.kuznetsov.9022
    The Azerbaijani side suffered scanty losses for the storming of the fortified area both in military equipment and in manpower. Today, the Azerbaijani army cannot advance due to political and purely technical reasons, therefore, a calm will be established at the front again, but the soldiers and officers of Azerbaijan have already learned the taste of victory, therefore the grounds for a peaceful settlement of the conflict on compromise terms are sharply reduced both for Armenia and for the peacekeeping mediators. "
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 April 4 2016 14: 56
      +2
      pffff .. What did they learn there? I can't hear well. Both sides, that Armenia, that Azerbaijan, each separately, will insist that their losses are scanty, but the enemy has what! It makes no sense to understand their mutual "balance of payments". Even more everyone will cheat about their "not yet used opportunities." In general, the Azerbaijani side pretends that it does not understand that without ethnic cleansing, that is, frankly, massacres, Nagorno-Karabakh cannot be returned to them. Plus, they stubbornly "not notice" Armenia's membership in the CSTO. Thirdly, stupid flirting with Turkey, currying favor with the United States - already for this from the Russians you can grieve in full on occasion, we remember everything, and we will not have mercy for alliance with a geopolitical enemy. The last is the most significant, as in the case of Ukradina. Therefore, Azerbaijan's policy towards Nagorno-Karabakh can be considered simply stupid, short-sighted, and ultimately suicidal. All this is not listed because Russia, oh, how wants to harness for Armenia. More likely no than yes. On the other hand, it would be more logical for Azerbaijan (as an ancient Persian province) to build a political axis Russia-Azerbaijan-Iran, and not kiss the Turks. Since the collapse of the USSR, it has been clear that the Karabakh issue has no military solution. But the Azerbaijani side thought that the current moment (Russian-Turkish showdown, Syria, the apparent weakening of Russia) suddenly became very favorable for probing a military solution. In fact, the opposite is true. The wind of time has changed. Russia has bristled and concentrated, with the principled feeling of "the enemy at the gates", and no one else will be almond-shaped with the accomplices of the striped owners. In short, Aliyev found the wrong companions to decide something on Karabakh.
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  38. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 4 2016 11: 15
    -6
    https://www.facebook.com/oleg.kuznetsov.9022
    I decided to calculate the losses of the Armenian side in the battles on April 2. He did this after Serzh Sargsyan's statement that "in the course of clashes with the armed forces of Azerbaijan on the night of April 2, 18 Armenian servicemen were killed, about 35 were injured."
    But I have the following interesting arithmetic:
    Minus 6 tanks, that's 18 people. crew, or killed, or injured, or shell-shocked, with no options.
    Minus 4 batteries of 4 guns (if howitzers), 6 people calculation for 15 destroyed guns, a total of 90 people. personnel, when the gun is destroyed, at least half the crew dies. Total artillery: 90 killed, wounded and shell-shocked. If mortars, then the calculation of 4 people, which means 60 killed, wounded and shell-shocked. Losses in armament: either 78 or 108 people of two hundred and three hundred.
    Fortified a battalion of 350-400 infantry, in the defense of the loss of 15-30% of the personnel, a total of 50-200 people. Armenians themselves claimed the loss of the regiment's lawyer. If at the heights around the village of Talysh there was a regiment, then infantry losses are three times as many - 150-500 people were killed, wounded and shell-shocked.
    Total losses with artillery and tanks - 220-600 people. Arithmetic is extremely simple.
    Most likely, the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense is right in its estimates of enemy losses.
    But there is one "but": this is on condition that during the first volleys the Armenians themselves did not run away, leaving behind small arms and heavy weapons.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 April 4 2016 13: 57
      +3
      https://www.facebook.com/oleg.kuznetsov.9022


      I did not find information on your link. Perhaps due to the fact that I am not registered on the face tree.
      However, where did you get so many destroyed tanks and artillery from? Of the recognized by both sides, it seems, only the destroyed tank and vertik and only Azerbaijani.

      By the way, why not calculate the loss of Azerbaijanis in the same way?

      But there is one "but": this is on condition that during the first volleys the Armenians themselves did not run away, leaving behind small arms and heavy weapons.


      Or they moved away so as not to incur losses from the prepared arshtur and focused on counterattacking.
      It is bad that there is very little data.
      Of those confirmed by both sides, the capture of several heights by Azerbaijanis. And that’s all that the Azerbaijani army was capable of, despite the fact that it had the initiative and superiority in armament and personnel. Not much.
  39. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 4 2016 11: 18
    -4
    Escalation in Nagorno-Karabakh: why Azerbaijan won
    Yuri Romanenko.
    http://hvylya.net/analytics/geopolitics/eskalatsiya-v-nagornom-karabahe-pochemu-
    azerbaydzhan-oderzhal-pobedu.html
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 April 4 2016 14: 00
      0
      404 Error - Nothing Found
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik April 4 2016 14: 55
        0
        No mistake ... just checked ..
    2. andrew42
      andrew42 April 4 2016 14: 59
      0
      If someone won some victory there, then where are the FRUIT? I do not see the redistribution of controlled territories, nor political concessions, on either side.
    3. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim April 4 2016 15: 29
      0
      Quote: Otshelnik
      Yuri Romanenko.

      Already this Romanenko cannot be trusted.
      The Investigative Committee of Russia opened a criminal case against Ukrainian propagandist and editor of the pro-government site “Khvil” Yuri Romanenko.
      This is reported on the agency's website.
      Earlier, Romanenko said at a conference at Harvard University that "The Armed Forces of Ukraine must selectively and thoroughly destroy Russian journalists who cover the situation in southeastern Ukraine."
      After he published the text of the speech on his Facebook page, then it was reprinted by some media. Then Romanenko erased his post on the social network, but the negative public outcry from this statement has already spread across Ukraine and Russia.
      A criminal case was opened on incitement to murder and incitement to hatred or enmity. Read more http://tass.ru/politika/1949252
  40. Ramzes33
    Ramzes33 April 4 2016 11: 19
    0
    The roots of this conflict go far back in history. Only a return to the borders of a single state (people) with Russia and the leadership oriented towards its development will break the trump cards from various geopoliticians. I understand that it sounds utopian, but time heals, sometimes through deprivation and blood.
  41. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 4 2016 11: 33
    -3
    Possible causes of aggravation of the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh
    http://tv.rbc.ru/archive/main_news/5702175e9a79471f6fbd1d78
  42. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 4 2016 11: 38
    -5
    AZERBAIJANI ARMED FORCES
    Today in 12: 26
    Long-range missile and artillery systems destroyed the command post of the Armenian army in Nagorno-Karabakh. A huge number of officers were destroyed, the Armenian forces are trying to withdraw the survivors.

    There is information about the destruction of the general of the Armenian army. Video evidence of the impact will be provided shortly.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 April 4 2016 14: 00
      +3
      There is information about the destruction of the general of the Armenian army. Video evidence of the impact will be provided shortly.


      For this, it is necessary at least to take the area on which the blow was struck, judging by the "long-range" artillery and the rate of "advance", the Azerbaijanis are not threatened. So the fake is 100%.
      1. Otshelnik
        Otshelnik April 4 2016 14: 58
        -3
        For us it doesn’t matter what you think, it is important for us that we did this ... I just share the info.
        here we thank God everything is going well ... the prisoners have already gone ...
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 April 4 2016 15: 20
          -1
          For us it doesn’t matter what you think, it is important for us that we did this ... I just share the info.
          here we thank God everything is going well ... the prisoners have already gone ...


          Is that what you dream? Or again links with an 404 error?
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 April 4 2016 14: 44
      +2
      Long-range missile and artillery systems destroyed the command post of the Armenian army in Nagorno-Karabakh. A huge number of officers were destroyed, the Armenian forces are trying to withdraw the survivors.

      There is information about the destruction of the general of the Armenian army. Video evidence of the impact will be provided shortly.
      Yes, and the general was "destroyed" by Aliyev and Erdogan personally ...

      PS And the Ukrainian army already recaptured the Donetsk airport, simultaneously destroying the next cavalry-armored Buryat division ....
  43. lex locis
    lex locis April 4 2016 12: 28
    0
    The standard scheme of a hybrid war used by the United States: to entice competitors (or on the borders of competitors) into squabbles, and giggle to watch from the sidelines "how these suckers were bred" ... and at the same time to arrange a headache for the likely enemy, and at the same time to show that everything around is in shit and only they are in a white tuxedo ...
  44. Kibl
    Kibl April 4 2016 12: 39
    +2
    Perdogan and Co. again muddy the water !!! Their supply, a no brainer. But on the border with Russia .......
  45. Artura0777
    Artura0777 April 4 2016 13: 14
    +6
    he was right !!!!
    1. Seal
      Seal April 4 2016 23: 20
      -1
      What only people do not invent. Then Peter the First said something, now now for A.V. Suvorov took.
      In the book of A.V. Suvorov "The Science of Winning" the word "Turk" occurs only 1 (one) time.
      These are:
      Battle in the field: line against regular; hazelnuts. There are no columns. And it can happen against Turksthat a five-hundred square should be broken through the five and seven thousandth crowd with the help of flanking squares. In that case, he will rush into the column. But there was no need for this. There are godless, windy, extravagant French women. They are fighting against the Germans and other columns. If we had happened against them, then we need them
      beat in columns


      ALL!!!! Everything else is fantasy. Most often composed by Armenians. In the days of A.V. Suvorov, by the way, were former, even better friends of the Turks and Tatars. From Crimea Armenians (and Greeks) A.V. Suvorov had to be resettled almost as later as the Crimean Tatars were evicted from the Crimea.
  46. Black
    Black April 4 2016 13: 20
    +2
    Aliyev may have made his biggest mistake. I do not think that the Armenians will simply give up their positions, despite the fact that Azerbaijan is materially ready for war by an order of magnitude higher. If the war is not squeezed into the framework of "spring exacerbation", there will be a lot of blood. Aliyev hopes to get the title "Liberator" and will receive the nickname "bloody".
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 4 2016 15: 02
      -2
      You and many others are ABSOLUTELY not aware of what is happening !!! The guys in the yard are not 1992 year ...
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 April 4 2016 15: 23
        0
        You and many others are ABSOLUTELY not aware of what is happening !!! The guys in the yard are not 1992 year ...


        Of course, I don’t know when the infa will be reliable, then we will remind you, like Atalef with his predictions. However, I do not think that you will be ashamed, as well as him.
        1. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik April 4 2016 15: 51
          -2
          So today they destroyed the Armenian generals and colonels
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aE5CLq9ybs
          1. garnik64
            garnik64 April 4 2016 22: 47
            0
            The surname of the general can be heard. And you can’t tell about 3 drone drone. By the way, your helicopter was shot down from an RPG, a Karabakh kid.
  47. minirulet
    minirulet April 4 2016 14: 05
    +2
    I’m embarrassed to ask, where did the T-90SM come from in Azerbaijan? laughing
  48. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff April 4 2016 15: 31
    0
    Caucasian wisdom is silent
    do their politicians have wisdom?
  49. Old warrior
    Old warrior April 4 2016 17: 00
    0
    This is us for Syria avenged ...
  50. Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 4 2016 17: 15
    -7
    Maxim Shevchenko: “Azerbaijan has the right to free its land”
    http://haqqin.az/news/67325
    1. Yereke
      Yereke April 4 2016 19: 42
      -4
      for sure !! and here everything is being conducted like a zombie agitation .. now I understand the Ukrainians !! no one will calm down any if the enemy seized your land, even if at least 20 years have passed !!!
    2. garnik64
      garnik64 April 4 2016 22: 53
      +1
      Maxim Shevchenko scum. Really there are no worthy people.