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This Russian soldier is a real hero (Boulevard Voltaire, France)

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This Russian soldier is a real hero (Boulevard Voltaire, France)



Courage is a very real thing, and not, as many people think, the poetry of Hollywood or the remnant of the Middle Ages.

An officer of the Russian special forces, who was surrounded by terrorists in Palmyra without hope of salvation, gave aviation an order to strike at his position, taking the militants with him to the grave.

It is reasonable to say that this man is a hero. And not the same hero, which we usually see in American films: they light the last cigarette, click Zippo, look thoughtfully at a distant horizon, mumble “Let's meet in hell” under your breath and press a button that blows everything to hell.

But in this case, everything is real. No violins, beautiful phrases and slow motion. The last fight of a young guy who had a whole life ahead of him.

This is the first thing that attracts attention. Courage is a very real thing, and not, as many people think, the poetry of Hollywood or the remnant of the Middle Ages. Here we are talking about real courage, not about what prompted athlete Bruce Jenner to change sex.

Second moment. Russia, with an impressive funeral cortege, service and media attention to the officer’s death, represents a curious contrast with France, where the death of soldiers sent to the hottest spots on the planet receives only a brief mention in the newspapers.

The only source of information for us in this matter is the Russian media, and it may be possible for them to romanticize or embellish history. But if you keep the French press, you might get the impression that no feat of the army of our own country deserves more than two lines.

The last and most important point: now we have an example of what it means to wage a war on terrorism. The terrorists have a real enemy, whose soldiers are ready to kill and even die if they can take with them more opponents.

Now this war has two faces. Mohammed Merah, whose unhealthy smile flickered on all screens after his atrocities. And Alexander Prokhorenko, in whose photographs we see the young man filled with power and pride. Opposite of the semi-literate robber, who considered the highest glory to kill innocent people out of hatred for his country, now stands the silhouette of an 25-year-old guy who sacrificed his time on Earth in honor of his flag in a foreign land.
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  1. Finches
    Finches April 3 2016 12: 50
    +168
    Hats off to a Frenchman!
    1. cap
      cap April 3 2016 13: 00
      +53
      Quote: Finches
      Hats off to a Frenchman!


      Join hi
      Prends avant le français, chapeau!

      Merci de l'hommage russe héros!

      is if the Frenchman doesn’t read Russian.
      1. SHAMAN
        SHAMAN April 3 2016 13: 03
        +10
        Orenburg ....! Urals, Siberia is always the basis of Russia and the defense was ...
        1. Alexey Z.
          Alexey Z. April 3 2016 13: 08
          +96
          He's from Russia!! Any region can argue with you !!
          1. SHAMAN
            SHAMAN April 3 2016 13: 43
            .
            Quote: Alexey Z.
            He's from Russia!! Any region can argue with you !!

            Except Moscow ...
            1. Asadullah
              Asadullah April 3 2016 14: 16
              +88
              Except Moscow ...


              And what about Moscow? Separate area? Have you been to the Heroes Alley in Moscow? Or do you have this kind of patriotism, set Orenburg on Moscow? Let us go on a hike to Moscow with all the provinces, demolish the Kremlin, the basis of Russian misadventures .... and they will clap you in Washington and Ankara, and Svidomo will even dance. Before you go to the puddle, scroll through your head how it will look.
              1. Greenwood
                Greenwood April 3 2016 15: 14
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                Quote: Asadullah
                demolish the Kremlin
                Great idea, it's time, this archaism has long been outdated. And so, so much space in the center of Moscow will be freed up for development with offices and elite housing. Another Moscow City can be taken back. All Moscow developers will support, I am sure. wassat
                1. Homo
                  Homo April 3 2016 17: 31
                  +28
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  Great idea, it's time, this archaism has long been outdated. And so, so much space in the center of Moscow will be freed up for development with offices and elite housing. Another Moscow City can be taken back. All Moscow developers will support, I am sure.

                  If this is your position - you are a provocateur, if a joke - you idiot! hi
                  1. Greenwood
                    Greenwood April 3 2016 17: 43
                    +4
                    That was sarcasm. Which no one understood. And which of us idiot after this ?! laughing
                    1. valentber
                      valentber April 3 2016 18: 23
                      +31
                      There are topics that do not have to be joked. Never.
                      1. Greenwood
                        Greenwood April 4 2016 06: 46
                        .
                        Pff, the Kremlin is not a dead man or a shrine that cannot be joked about.
                      2. Archon
                        Archon April 5 2016 06: 46
                        +2
                        many members of the forum have a minimal sense of humor. Henceforth, in capital letters, warn that it is a joke, irony or sarcasm. You can even specify an age category.
                        In general, it would be better if the capital were moved closer to the geographical center of Russia from its Far West - maybe the development of the regions was more even.
                      3. Greenwood
                        Greenwood April 6 2016 12: 30
                        0
                        Yes, I already realized that here the people perceive subtle humor and veiled sarcasm too close to heart. smile I do not take offense at them.
                        About the demolition of the Kremlin, I think, mainly Muscovites reacted painfully, of whom there are a lot.
                        Quote: Archon
                        the capital would be moved closer to the geographical center of Russia from its Far West
                        I agree completely. The Krasnoyarsk Territory would be optimal, only not Krasnoyarsk itself, but some small satellite city for example. And let Moscow remain the financial center of the country.
                      4. Archon
                        Archon April 7 2016 15: 25
                        0
                        You can do it like with the Americans - with them Washington is just a modest city of officials. And the most famous city of America, New York is just a city, a symbol of America, a set for a movie.
              2. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 April 3 2016 19: 02
                +24
                Quote: Greenwood
                That was sarcasm. Which no one understood.

                Charlie idiots also thought ... There they are and the way ...
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood April 4 2016 07: 34
                  +1
                  Incorrect comparison, IMHO.
                2. forest park 86
                  forest park 86 April 4 2016 09: 52
                  +5
                  Thank God, France is not only "shorley ..."
              3. Dam
                Dam April 3 2016 23: 42
                +6
                Alas, if everyone is going to meet you in your lane, most likely you are in the oncoming traffic. Treat a sense of humor
              4. Mahno
                Mahno April 4 2016 01: 07
                +1
                I understood you
              5. lukewarm
                lukewarm April 5 2016 11: 47
                0
                Anyone who jokes in this thread, IMHO
            2. ver_
              ver_ April 6 2016 03: 33
              +1
              ..to the article about the birds ..: - French word -owner ..
          2. spiriolla-45
            spiriolla-45 April 4 2016 08: 41
            +3
            Quote: Greenwood
            Quote: Asadullah
            demolish the Kremlin Great idea, it's time, this archaism has long been outdated. And so, so much space in the center of Moscow will be freed up for development with offices and elite housing. Another Moscow City can be taken back. All Moscow developers will support, I am sure.

            What the hell are you talking about. Yes, in Moscow, many snickered, and all the shit * oh, from all over Russia comes down to it, but there are also a lot of good people living there, which are all under one comb. And the Kremlin is a symbol, the talisman of Russia. You need to tear this head down so that you don't carry nonsense without thinking.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood April 4 2016 13: 34
              -4
              Calmly, calmly, take the little frolic and calm down. No need to hysteria like that, all adults are here.
              Quote: spiriolla-xnumx
              it is a symbol, the talisman of Russia.
              Really?
              Quote: spiriolla-xnumx
              You need to tear this head down so that you don't carry nonsense without thinking.
              Do not distinguish sarcasm from real thoughts ?!
          3. bravo-fab
            bravo-fab April 4 2016 21: 08
            0
            I do not like Moscow, but if you put our square on the profile picture, know that these people came from Moscow and St. Petersburg for the power of the Soviets ...
            Primoretz, and the head is certainly full, not with bird's milk, but a patch
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood April 6 2016 12: 32
              0
              Wai-wai-wai, this is no reason for me to adore Moscow, which I have never been to, and there is no desire to go there either.
              Quote: bravo-fab
              pens
              Yeah, and also Doshirak, Milkis and Chokopay.
          4. ver_
            ver_ April 5 2016 14: 00
            +2
            ... far from everyone understood your humor .. if you would have offered to chop heads of all stripes on the frontal place, I’m sure there would be pluses ..
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood April 6 2016 12: 33
              0
              Not chasing the pros. repeat
              Although some people do not interfere with easier to look at the things around them.
          5. dima mzk
            dima mzk April 5 2016 21: 12
            0
            I’ll take something faster off my shoulders!
        2. cniza
          cniza April 3 2016 15: 15
          +30
          From Russia, the point is, each region has its own heroes and they are all from Russia.
          1. Asadullah
            Asadullah April 3 2016 16: 56
            +27
            From Russia and the point


            Exactly. There were such people in Afghanistan too. Any group in the mountains, each fighter left a flash drive for himself. At nineteen you don’t think about it, they just say it won’t hurt. Everything is very fast. But in other places, I wondered if I could do this. From this I am worried with this soldier his last moment. Usually I always delve into the reasons, in search of the guilty. And here I do not want to, if someone let him down, then this is a burden to him for life, there are too few of ours there. Third, a fighter!
          2. evgenii67
            evgenii67 April 4 2016 17: 46
            +2
            Eternal memory! But I have Two questions: 1 find yourself surrounded by any of you, what would you do if you knew that they will mock you for a long time, and then cut off the head? 2. Besides him, one of ours or the Syrians died, if not, then how did he turn ONE in that place?
            1. bravo-fab
              bravo-fab April 4 2016 21: 11
              0
              Either this is a romanized story, or several have died with it.
              1. evgenii67
                evgenii67 April 4 2016 22: 11
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                Quote: bravo-fab
                Either this is a romanized story, or several have died with it.

                here I am about too. The author writes about "And not the hero that we usually see in American films: ..." - so he was NOT ONE KILLED? Or is he really REMBO ?!So how exactly did he die ?! they say he caused a fire on himself, as a hero I do not remember what movie "KATYUSHA ON ME !!!"and then one water about heroism and blah blah blah.
            2. ver_
              ver_ April 5 2016 14: 15
              +1
              ... each warrior in this case uses the last chance, will cause fire on himself, or will explode on his grenade taking enemies with him .., at least a meager, but the chance is to stay alive in the first case .., not fate ..
        3. wervolf
          wervolf April 3 2016 15: 54
          .
          we’ll deal with Svidomo, but it’s time for Russia to talk to Moscow
          1. valentber
            valentber April 3 2016 18: 25
            0
            There is something in it!
          2. Bombowoz
            Bombowoz April 3 2016 19: 10
            +9
            You will talk with yours. The country is not ruled by Muscovites. See their biography. If the capital is transferred to your city tomorrow, then the day after tomorrow they will also begin to blame you.
        4. Georgey
          Georgey April 3 2016 17: 31
          .
          During the Chechen war, Luzhkov announced that not a single Moscow boy would hit any hot spot. It is a fact.
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch April 3 2016 18: 26
            +22
            Quote: Georgey
            During the Chechen war, Luzhkov announced that not a single Moscow boy would hit any hot spot. It is a fact.

            And in the first and second Muscovites were there. As with the region-Balashikha, Podolsk, Elektrostal is offhand. And throwing g @ vno on the fan is an ungrateful thing, you yourself can suffer.
            1. Sid.74
              April 3 2016 20: 40
              +5
              Quote: Semyon Semyonich
              -Balashikha, Podolsk, Elektrostal

              I apologize, but I have not seen such stereotypical conceit as in Moscow anywhere ... and these small cities are not Moscow, people are different.
              Specifically Elektrostal and Voskresensk, it was possible, though not for long, to stay there. Not Moscow ... not at all.
            2. avia1991
              avia1991 April 3 2016 23: 18
              +3
              Quote: Semyon Semyonich
              And throwing r @ vno on the fan is a thankless task,

              And why are you so rushed to shield Maaskva? ..
              Luzhkov said these words - this is a fact.
              Among Muscovites there were many times more people who had "cut off" than in any region - also a fact.
              Concerning
              Quote: Semyon Semyonich
              And in the first and second Muscovites were there.
              and they don’t argue with this: exceptions have occurred.
              1. alexej123
                alexej123 April 4 2016 10: 21
                0
                There were more of those who "cut off" - Moscow is a metropolis, of course, and "there were more who were". There is the same society as everywhere else.
          2. ver_
            ver_ April 5 2016 14: 20
            +1
            ... he is not a boy, he is a warrior, and that says it all ..
            ,,, "goodbye boys try to go back .."
        5. alllll
          alllll April 3 2016 20: 00
          -9
          Moscow is not Russia, but the metropolis sucking the country and its people
          1. Konstantin Yu
            Konstantin Yu April 4 2016 15: 51
            +1
            Quote: alllll
            Moscow is not Russia, but the metropolis sucking the country and its people

            Moscow is just the heart of Russia.
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch April 3 2016 14: 19
        +3
        Plusanul by mistake. Guilty, corrected.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 4 2016 15: 42
          +2
          Quote: Semyon Semyonich
          Plusanul by mistake. Guilty, corrected.

          And what is wrong with his words?
          Quote: alllll
          Moscow is not Russia, but the metropolis sucking the country and its people

          So it is, how many Muscovites of state farms fucked up - not to count. They buy a state farm, cattle under a knife, land for auction. Much more profitable. And this is not in the 90s, but 5 years ago. In other areas of industry, the situation is exactly the same. Raiders anywhere in the country are Muscovites. So in reality - the metropolis is sucking the country and its people. hi
      3. pilot8878
        pilot8878 April 3 2016 14: 35
        +71
        Quote: SHAMAN
        Except Moscow ...

        Muscovites are often disliked for a certain snobbery and arrogance, but when pressed, Muscovites know how to die no worse than Orenburg, St. Petersburg, Khabarovsk guys. Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind.
        And Sasha Prokhorenko - Eternal Memory and Glory. Even during the Great Patriotic War, such a death caused respect against the general background. Now all the more ... It is bitter and insulting that he lived a little, nothing compensates for his relatives, but the ACT causes admiration and should be an example for others, as in their time "Young Guard", pioneer heroes, Alexander Matrosov, Nikolai Gastello and many others.
        Sorry for the confusion and inconsistency, but without emotions I can not.
        1. otter.1
          otter.1 April 3 2016 16: 43
          +33
          Not Muscovites, I think you have not seen them (wildly sorry if you are a Moskvich, this is for those who have such a template), those who have come there and are more likely to try to squeeze out their historical homeland are snobbish, but sorry, like wiping snot with a sleeve , and continue to spit through the lip: "Moskvich I ... like ... this ... understood yes"
          And the native Muscovites are modest, calm people (very similar to the native Petersburgers) Himself not a Muscovite, a maternal granny came to Moscow in 1946. from Germany. So, I immediately send the claims to the authors
          1. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow April 3 2016 17: 39
            +5
            I support you, although I am not a Muscovite myself and do not like Moscow. Faced with such "ma-a-askwiches", I know.
            1. valentber
              valentber April 3 2016 18: 28
              +8
              And who did not come across them? But this is not only their city, it belongs to all of Russia. Do not confuse individual Moscow boors and the capital of the country (as they say: we will separate the flies from cutlets!).
          2. pilot8878
            pilot8878 April 3 2016 19: 18
            +5
            Quote: otter.1
            Muscovites, I think you have not seen them

            You are wrong. I visit Moscow often. Those with whom you have to communicate, for the most part, are "zamkadyshi" (a purely Moscow term, isn't it?), It's quite simple with them. The inhabitants of the city are completely different: they are boorish, accustomed to the idea that everyone owes them everything, cynicism and inattention to others simply gush out. I understand that this is all superficial, that this is just a reaction to "come in large numbers" (another Moscow term), but such an attitude also causes a corresponding one. As for the number of generations lived in the city, excuse me, I was not interested in anyone.
          3. Pirogov
            Pirogov April 3 2016 20: 02
            +3
            Quote: otter.1
            Not Muscovites, I think you have not seen them (wildly sorry if you are a Moskvich, this is for those who have such a template), those who have come there and are more likely to try to squeeze out their historical homeland are snobbish, but sorry, like wiping snot with a sleeve , and continue to spit through the lip: "Moskvich I ... like ... this ... understood yes"
            And the native Muscovites are modest, calm people (very similar to the native Petersburgers) Himself not a Muscovite, a maternal granny came to Moscow in 1946. from Germany. So, I immediately send the claims to the authors

            I fully support you.
          4. WAN
            WAN April 4 2016 16: 57
            +2
            I am a Muscovite. Born, lived, studied in Moscow in the USSR, 10 years ago he moved to the suburbs (it happened). In 93, the glass in our house was shaking when the White House was shot, and it was my birthday. This is so, I remembered.
            Therefore, I can confirm your words. Maybe they are not so modest and calm, but this is true: "those who came there suffer from snobbery and are more likely to try to squeeze out their historical homeland, but sorry, as they wiped the snot with a sleeve, they continue to spit through their lip:" Moskvich I ... like ... it ... got it yes "
        2. nemez
          nemez April 3 2016 16: 52
          +23
          I’ll argue about Moscow, but about the nation — I’m an ethnic German, but my soul is Russian, and Orthodox. And my surname is too famous here and there, neither my grandfather, nor father, nor I thought about where our Motherland is. My brother Chechnya passed and I’ll lay my head for the country.
          1. Novoselova70133
            Novoselova70133 April 3 2016 18: 22
            0
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlS0nbfDlkg
        3. Rarog
          Rarog April 3 2016 20: 04
          +6
          Quote: pilot8878

          Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind.


          It was after such words that all sorts of "tina kandelaki" and other liberal trash and shouts that there are no Russians left.
          I do not mind that people without Russian blood in the veins consider themselves Russian in spirit ... even with both hands in favor, but:
          Russian, first of all - Nationality - Ethnicity - People!
          1. co-creator
            co-creator April 3 2016 20: 32
            +2
            Quote: Rarog
            Russian, first of all - Nationality - Ethnicity - People!

            Done right. Sduchaino set minus.
          2. pilot8878
            pilot8878 April 3 2016 22: 15
            +2
            Quote: Rarog
            Russian, first of all - Nationality - Ethnicity

            Excuse me, but a person with how much Russian blood becomes Russian for you? When answering, do not forget about the western regions, where over the last thousand years it is easier to name those who have not been "noted. Or "there are no Russians there"? We remember the small nationalities living in our country: who should we consider them? And how to distinguish a Russian, a Mordvin, a Chuvash? We will not say anything about religion. Russian, in your understanding, should be Orthodox?
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 April 3 2016 23: 41
              0
              Quote: pilot8878
              Russian, in your understanding, should be Orthodox?

              No! Judging by the nickname, his Russian must be a pagan! wink
              1. Rarog
                Rarog April 4 2016 05: 15
                0
                How does worship relate to DNA?
                1. pilot8878
                  pilot8878 April 4 2016 09: 46
                  +5
                  Quote: Rarog
                  How does worship relate to DNA?

                  What part of DNA defines the "fifth column"? And from what time and which of the tribes do you lead the Russians in your understanding?
                  The Chechens, Germans, Latvians, Tatars, Mordovians, Chuvashs, Uighurs, Indians who live in Russia, who see themselves as citizens of Russia, who live through its problems, DO NOT SEPARATE YOURSELF FROM RUSSIAN PEOPLE, are the Russian people by nationality. And Elyash Mikhail Naumovich, and Ivan Khristoforovich Baghramyan, and Isa Pliev, and Konstantin Rokossovsky, and many, many others - these are all RUSSIAN people.
                  Have you ever asked the question: "Why is Russia so huge?" Without pretending to be an absolute truth, I will offer you a variant: maybe, in part, because the Russians do not seek to destroy, remake according to their own model, "de-democratize" all their neighbors on the planet? That is why Orthodox, Catholics, Muslims, Buddhists, Judaists and many others live in one country.
                2. Rarog
                  Rarog April 4 2016 09: 48
                  0
                  And how did the comparative peacefulness of the Russian ethnos affect the fact that he suddenly disappeared somewhere? And yes, tell all of the above nationalities that they are all Russian.
                3. pilot8878
                  pilot8878 April 4 2016 10: 00
                  -4
                  Quote: Rarog
                  How did the comparative peacefulness of the Russian ethnos affect the fact that he suddenly disappeared somewhere?

                  But the ethnic group has not disappeared. He absorbed all of the above. Therefore, talking about blood purity is pointless. And the same Dagestanis, Ingush, and others have long become a PART of the Russian ethnic group.
                4. co-creator
                  co-creator April 4 2016 14: 53
                  +2
                  Quote: pilot8878
                  And the same Dagestanis, Ingush, and others have long become a PART of the Russian ethnic group.

                  You tell the Ingush and Dagestanis this, they won’t even beat you because insane people don’t beat you.
              2. Corsair
                Corsair April 5 2016 10: 27
                +1
                Quote: Rarog
                And how did the comparative peacefulness of the Russian ethnos affect the fact that he suddenly disappeared somewhere? And yes, tell all of the above nationalities that they are all Russian.

                what How do you define Russian nationality? And the Chuvash, Mordvinians, baptized Tatars, Moldavians, Okraintsy (and then the Turks and Poles and Hungarians with the Bulgarians came off) how will you distinguish? And those and those Ivanov Sidorov Petrov Kuznetsov.
                The national question always arises where some kind of discord and srach is needed, cold and war are in famine - no one divides the people into separate regiments of Tatars, Udmurts, Belarusians and Kazakhs, but here the division will go purely Russian.
                If we take into account the contribution of certain peoples to the common victory, then how to share the merits, if it is possible that only 10 thousand people died, from some ethnic group, not 10 million as Russians, only the whole nationality can consist of 100 thousand people?
                Stalin was a Georgian, Beria was an Abkhaz, Zhukov was Russian, Rokossovsky was a Pole in general, Gagarin, perhaps by his great-grandmother, was also not quite "Russian", what kind of individual Russianness are you talking about, and even adding DNA here?
              3. Rarog
                Rarog April 5 2016 15: 38
                0
                Quote: Corsair

                what How do you define Russian nationality?


                Probably also how they determine their nationality among the French, British, Irish, German, Tatars, Yakut, Ossetians, etc.

                Native Language (up to local dialects), Identity, Culture, Traditions, Worldview, Community of History, Territorial affiliation (at least among ancestors), Haplotype (DNA genealogy), mtDNA features, Anthropology, etc. etc. the combination of these and other characteristics determines ethnicity.

                Quote: Corsair
                ... what particular Russianness are you talking about, and even DNA here?


                Above I have already mentioned about DNA ... read about DNA genealogy, mtDNA and perhaps you will understand why I "drag" DNA.
          3. antipendos
            antipendos April 4 2016 14: 19
            +2
            RUSSIA turns out a kind of ark in which salvation will be of all nationalities in the future, because misunderstandings in the world are becoming stronger and more hostile.
      4. Rarog
        Rarog April 4 2016 09: 46
        0
        Quote: avia1991

        No! Judging by the nickname, his Russian must be a pagan! wink


        Judging by the nickname (specifically in my case), I am opposed to the Norman theory of the origin of statehood in Russia, first and foremost, and then, perhaps, a pagan. But judging by the avatar - Orthodox. Or maybe I'm a Buddhist or an atheist ?! And, now what about what religion, supposedly in my opinion, should there be a Russian person?
      5. ver_
        ver_ April 5 2016 14: 30
        +1
        .. correctly spelled under the Tsar .. example: -Russian Armenian ..
      6. ver_
        ver_ April 6 2016 05: 55
        0
        ... in principle, atheists are all pagans .. like grandfather Schukar - if the thunder blows very much ...
    2. co-creator
      co-creator April 3 2016 23: 53
      +2
      Quote: pilot8878
      Excuse me, but a person with how much Russian blood becomes Russian for you? When answering, do not forget about the western regions, where over the last thousand years it is easier to name those who have not been "noted. Or "there are no Russians there"? We remember the small nationalities living in our country: who should we consider them? And how to distinguish a Russian, a Mordvin, a Chuvash? We will not say anything about religion. Russian, in your understanding, should be Orthodox?

      Then let's assume that there is no nationality and there are only races. But somehow strange it turns out Russians as nationalities, there are no people, but there are different Chechens, Germans, Latvians, Tatars.
    3. Rarog
      Rarog April 4 2016 05: 25
      +2
      Only Russian left? Mordovians, Chuvashs, Chechens, Uighurs, Indians are - There are no Russians. Do I get it right?! By the way, how does the religious worldview relate to DNA. Or were our ancestors not Russian before the adoption of Orthodoxy? Or their ancestors moving from one current of paganism to another did not have the same DNA as us ?!
    4. ver_
      ver_ April 5 2016 14: 35
      +1
      ... nation and nationality are not the same thing ..
  2. avia1991
    avia1991 April 3 2016 23: 38
    +2
    Quote: Rarog
    Russian, first of all - Nationality - Ethnicity - People!

    If you mean "purity of blood" by this - you, my friend, to another resource, to the Nazis.
    Purebred Rus ... well, probably there are some of them - but very few. And you, no matter how puffed up, will not be able to prove your "pure" origin, if only because we have an acute shortage of metrics for the Middle Ages wassat
    As for the statement
    Quote: pilot8878
    Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind.
    - this is the real definition of the concept of "Russian": such a state can only be possessed by a person who has absorbed in his Soul all the best that was inherent in the Great Russians - hospitality, friendliness, generosity, willingness to help, courage and fearlessness in defending the Motherland and his home, the ability to survive in the harshest conditions - and in all trials to maintain a human form!
    There are many qualities that distinguish us - Russians. Except for one thing: that we are all "of the same blood." But at the same time we are all "RUSSIAN".
    1. co-creator
      co-creator April 4 2016 00: 01
      -1
      Quote: avia1991

      If you mean "purity of blood" by this - you, my friend, to another resource, to the Nazis.

      Do you have a blood problem?
      Quote: avia1991
      Purebred Rus ... well, probably there are some of them - but very few. And you, no matter how puffed up, will not be able to prove your "pure" origin, if only because we have an acute shortage of metrics for the Middle Ages

      There are no purebred people at all. Does this mean that there are no nationalities and peoples?


      Quote: avia1991
      - this is the real definition of the concept of "Russian": such a state can only be possessed by a person who has absorbed in his Soul all the best that was inherent in the Great Russians - hospitality, friendliness, generosity, willingness to help, courage and fearlessness in defending the Motherland and his home, the ability to survive in the harshest conditions - and in all trials to maintain a human form!

      What kind of nonsense laughing Type Chinese is not hospitable, friendly and generous? Does he immediately die in the cold and unable to survive without toilet paper? You have porridge in your head, and moreover, liberal-nationalist.

      Quote: avia1991
      There are many qualities that distinguish us - Russians. Except for one thing: that we are all "of the same blood." But at the same time, we are all "RUSSIAN"

      You want to say that there are Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, Mordovians, Circassians, Ossetians, but there are no Russians? Have you tried to go to the hospital?
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 April 4 2016 00: 19
        0
        Quotation: blooded man
        Do you have a blood problem?

        I have no problems with blood - but you obviously have problems with your head, judging by the "analysis" of my comment, and the conclusions to which you were led by unbearable mental stress.
        Dogging Here with you I have no desire - the topic is not the same. If you don’t like something, turn to the black list: you will only read the opinions of such clever people.
        1. co-creator
          co-creator April 4 2016 14: 49
          0
          Quote: avia1991
          I have no problems with blood - but you obviously have problems with your head, judging by the "analysis" of my comment, and the conclusions to which you were led by unbearable mental stress.

          So Tatars and Chechens, that is, a wise guy, or is this also a state of mind?
          Quote: avia1991
          Dogging Here with you I have no desire - the topic is not the same.

          Why did you write yourself in the animal? The topic as a topic, they again want to say that I am not. Again MILLIONS of people without clans and tribes.
        2. avia1991
          avia1991 April 4 2016 20: 38
          -2
          Quotation: blooded man
          A theme as a theme again they want to say that I am not

          The topic, come -... to (guessed ?!) is a discussion of an article about the dead commandos! And in light of this, there is NO MATTER to you and your pedigree - be you even a Papuan from Taimyr! Is that clearer? You don't have enough mind to turn away from your own ambitions, and soberly read what they write about? The feeling of "wounded national pride" has completely filled the balls ?!
        3. co-creator
          co-creator April 5 2016 00: 58
          0
          Quote: avia1991
          You don't have enough mind to turn away from your own ambitions, and soberly read what they write about? The feeling of "wounded national pride" has completely filled the balls ?!

          Hyyy..In a string or encoded?
          What are the ambitions of the dude .You have already understood everything correctly here, and you all are getting out. Think about what you write first, and then write.
          Here, by the way, your brother intelligently broadcasts that the Dagestanis and the Ingush are also Russian laughing
        4. avia1991
          avia1991 April 5 2016 02: 36
          -1
          Quotation: blooded man
          .You already understood everything right here

          The only thing that you noticed correctly. EVERYONE understands quite correctly - except for you, smart guy. Apparently, due to the possession of a one-of-a-kind blood, mentally you ... are not quite mature enough, and all your brain efforts are only enough for an indistinct "bunch" in a puddle - which, obviously, very pleasantly "scratches" your pride wassat
          Convenient, right? Sitting under the cover of the Internet, portray Superman laughing - no one can reach to shake the collar!
          If not completely inadequate, re-read the article that is being discussed and tidy up your lousy ambitions: not the time, nor the place to wave them.
        5. co-creator
          co-creator April 5 2016 15: 40
          +1
          Quote: avia1991
          Everyone understands quite correctly - except for you, wise guy.

          And so you are already trying to prove to the second person that they supposedly misunderstood you laughing Yes you are a comedian however. Petrosyan is not a relative to you by chance?
          Quote: avia1991
          Convenient, right? Sitting under the cover of the Internet, to portray Superman - no one can reach to shake the collar!

          That you are also an action movie. You were not taught at school that you need to admit your mistakes.
          Quote: avia1991
          If not completely inadequate, re-read the article that is being discussed and tidy up your lousy ambitions:

          And here is the article? I responded to your specific comments in which you say that Russians are not an ethnic group and people, but simply rabble from different people (apparently abandoning their people) who have hospitality. kindness etc.
          Once again I ask Chechens, Ingush, Georgians. Estonians are states of mind or ethnicity.
  • PHANTOM-AS
    PHANTOM-AS April 4 2016 00: 33
    +1
    Quotation: blooded man
    You want to say that there are Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, Mordovians, Circassians, Ossetians, but there are no Russians?

    I will tell you that in the Republic of Ingushetia everyone was a citizen of the Republic of Ingushetia, then there were Soviet people, the Soviet man was a unifying concept for all the peoples of the USSR.
    But at the same time, in the West there is no concept of Chechens, Belarussian, Tatar, Udmurt, Ukrainian .., and they perceive all these nations as Russian!
    I hope this is clear?
    Read, update in memory:
    * You are a Soviet man! - But he flew on Forman! Is this a plane ?! This is whatnot. On it, neither dexterity nor speed is needed. - But you are a Soviet man, Alexey! - Soviet people. Soviet. Vorobiev, Meresiev. Why, he flew without a foot, not without legs. - Well, yes, but I'm a Soviet person. - And it took him years of training, you know, years! - But I'm a Soviet man!
    1. co-creator
      co-creator April 4 2016 16: 15
      0
      Quote: PHANTOM-AS
      But at the same time, in the West there is no concept of Chechens, Belarussian, Tatar, Udmurt, Ukrainian .., and they perceive all these nations as Russian

      What nonsense is that)) Watch less telly.
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  • Rarog
    Rarog April 4 2016 05: 22
    +1
    But the British, Germans, French, Chechens, Han Chinese, Tatars, I think, do you think there is !? That's just no Russian left. You are either Russophobe or are subject to their influence. By the way, I know my pedigree on 7-9 tribes, depending on the branch and there were Russian people there ... and based on the fact that even now (not to mention past centuries) in most cases it is customary to marry / get married to / for my own, I can calmly assert that even 7-9 knees to the ones I knew were Russians, etc. etc.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 April 4 2016 08: 11
      +1
      Quote: Rarog
      You are either Russophobe or are subject to their influence.

      Bullshit!
      But I am not a nationalist, in the sense that you preach. Russians are purebred! - Maybe there's. But there are few of them - due to historical, first of all, reasons, incest took place regularly. This is normal, by the way - otherwise one can approach degeneration, due to closely related relations wassat
      I won’t argue about the 7th-9th knee: I want to believe that you are a purebred Russian - for God's sake! The question is not this, but how you feel about Russia and whether you are ready to lay down your life for it! And here the fun begins: often a person with mixed blood turns out to be MORE RUSSIAN than a "true Aryan" who boasts of his origin! soldier
      PS And it’s absolutely stupid to ascribe to me the denial of the "Russian" fool Sometimes you need to read other people's comments - then it will be easier to understand who is who.
      1. Rarog
        Rarog April 4 2016 09: 39
        +2
        Quote: avia1991

        But I am not a nationalist, in the sense that you preach.


        And in what sense do I preach it? Do I preach at all? It has become interesting to me. And yes, what do you think nationalism is? For me, the difference between nationalism and Nazism is huge:

        Nationalism is love on a national (ethnic) basis. Even kill me, I love my people and the peoples close to it in the language family. Note - this does not mean that I somehow have a bad attitude towards other ethnic groups. It hurts that someone is trying to convince others that the world's largest white ethnos suddenly disappeared somewhere (became unclean), was assimilated by small neighbors who, about a miracle, remained the same - Tatars, Chuvash, Ossetians, etc. and it is they who, unlike the Russians, can be proud of the fact that they are Tatars, Chuvash, Ossetians, etc. Try to drop into a Tatar village on the Middle Volga and tell them that they are "Russians", and there are no "purebred" Tatars at all ... or do such a somersault in the Caucasus, look at the reaction ... or just Russians - No? ! And only about Russians you can tell tales ?!

        Nazism is ethnic hatred.
        Do you catch the difference? If so, please continue not to recommend me the resources of the Nazis, in the war with whom I lost two great-grandfathers.
      2. co-creator
        co-creator April 4 2016 16: 19
        0
        Quote: Rarog
        was assimilated by small neighbors who, about a miracle, remained the same - Tatars, Chuvash, Ossetians, etc. and it is they who, unlike the Russians, can be proud of the fact that they are Tatars, Chuvash, Ossetians, etc. Try to drop into a Tatar village on the Middle Volga and tell them that they are "Russians", and there are no "purebred" Tatars at all ... or do such a somersault in the Caucasus, look at the reaction ... or just Russians - No? ! And only about Russians you can tell tales ?!

        Man, he never will. Ordinary communist or liberal.
  • Glad
    Glad April 5 2016 09: 41
    -1
    Quote: Rarog
    Quote: pilot8878

    Russian is not a nationality, but a state of mind.


    It was after such words that all sorts of "tina kandelaki" and other liberal trash and shouts that there are no Russians left.
    I do not mind that people without Russian blood in the veins consider themselves Russian in spirit ... even with both hands in favor, but:
    Russian, first of all - Nationality - Ethnicity - People!


    Russian (as well as German, American, etc.) is primarily CULTURE and WORLDWIDE.
    And Nationality, Ethnicity and People are completely different concepts.
    This is me to the fact that ethnic German may well be Russian in culture and worldview.

    As for what the "liberal trash" shouts, there is no point in listening to these cries. For what people are paid, they scream.
    1. co-creator
      co-creator April 5 2016 19: 01
      +1
      Quote: Glad
      Russian (as well as German, American, etc.) is primarily CULTURE and WORLDWIDE.
      And Nationality, Ethnicity and People are completely different concepts.
      This is me to the fact that ethnic German may well be Russian in culture and worldview

      You are wrong at the root. Russian is primarily an ethnic group and the people from whom the Russian CULTURE went. There can be no culture without a people. Worldview is just a complement no more, as well as in other nations. For example, a German can also become a Chechen, and what will you say that a Chechen is primarily a worldview?

      Here you are not "liberal trash" and propagandize their point of view.
  • Siberian
    Siberian April 4 2016 16: 40
    +4
    It is necessary to restore Palmyra to the maximum, in honor of this little boy - now he is there - a symbol of our something (maybe not yet formed) in common, his soul, his life, his memory.
  • bravo-fab
    bravo-fab April 4 2016 21: 14
    0
    oh, they’ve done it, Russian is not a nationality, but who is he then? German? Tajik? There are Russian Germans and there are Russian Tajiks ... multiculturalists are bad.
    PS: In Russia, from time immemorial, such people have been called Russian People, a Russian person refers to the state of mind and to the mentality. Do not touch ethnicity!
  • zennon
    zennon April 3 2016 15: 29
    +22
    Quote: SHAMAN
    Except Moscow ...

    Do you have any idea how many streets in Moscow the heroes of the Soviet Union are named after Muscovites? 120 streets of Moscow bear the names of Heroes of the Great Patriotic War with Germany. 12 streets are located in the Eastern Administrative Okrug, 19 - in the South-Eastern Administrative Okrug, 4 - in the Southern Administrative Okrug, 18 - in the Northern Administrative Okrug, 21 - in the Northern Administrative Okrug, 24 - in the Northern Administrative Okrug, 9 - in the Southern Administrative Okrug, 8 - in the Central Administrative Okrug, 12 - in Zelenogradsk district. Of these, Muscovites 2.

    1. wervolf
      wervolf April 3 2016 15: 58
      .
      and how many guys and girls from Russia, these same show-offs defended
      1. valentber
        valentber April 3 2016 18: 29
        +3
        Fascist? Liberast? Just a provocateur?
      2. raliv
        raliv April 3 2016 21: 30
        +3
        and how many guys and girls from Russia, these same show-offs defended

        girls, miracle Svidomo, girls are written in Russian, or write already in their own way, in "nightingale".
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    2. otter.1
      otter.1 April 3 2016 16: 45
      0
      It’s just at Liza Chaykina that she lives, Airport Airport.
    3. nemez
      nemez April 3 2016 16: 53
      -7
      she’s not a Muscovite, but 41 shouldn’t be compared with these years, there was not one of MOSCOW in Chechnya, my brother told me how they had fallen, it’s a pity I CAN'T APPLY VIDEO FROM DMB.
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 April 3 2016 17: 14
        +6
        Well, DMB is a cool proof. It's a direct documentary. laughing fool
      2. zennon
        zennon April 3 2016 20: 18
        +3
        Quote: nemez
        she’s not a Muscovite,

        And I didn’t write that all the streets are named after the Muscovite heroes. I wrote that there are 67 such streets. And with regards to the Muscovites, Moscow gave the country 188 Heroes of the Soviet Union. Of these, 173 people were born in the capital and 15 in the suburbs, by the time they were awarded the honorary title of those who entered the line of Moscow (Bogorodskoye, Borodino, Businovo, Vladykino, Vykhino (two), Golovino, Lyusinoostrovsky, Novogireevo, Nizhny Likhobory, Pokrovskoye, Solntsevo , Tsaritsyno-Dachnoe, Chukhlinka, Yasenevo).
        The list of Muscovite Heroes is opened by the 34-year-old senior lieutenant (all military ranks are indicated at the time of the feat and presentation to the rank) P.V. Rychagov, a participant in the war in Spain (1936-1939), where he shot down six enemy aircraft. He was awarded the title of Hero on December 31, 1936. As for Liza Chaykina Street, I often just walk along this street past this board. In general, I don’t understand the conversation about Russian patriots living.
      3. raliv
        raliv April 3 2016 21: 58
        0

        she’s not a Muscovite, but 41 shouldn’t be compared with these years, there was not one of MOSCOW in Chechnya, my brother told me how they had fallen, it’s a pity I CAN'T APPLY VIDEO FROM DMB.

        Baby, what brought you to this resource? Go to dom2.ru, there are beautiful girls and all that ...
    4. avia1991
      avia1991 April 3 2016 23: 51
      0
      Quote: zennon
      Do you have any idea how many streets in Moscow the heroes of the Soviet Union are named after Muscovites?

      With all due respect, the quantity does not mean anything. Especially if you recall the total number of Heroes of the Soviet Union (more than 11600 people), and compare this figure with the number of streets named after Heroes.
  • Yuri from Volgograd
    Yuri from Volgograd April 3 2016 16: 39
    +1
    Quote: SHAMAN
    Quote: Alexey Z.
    He's from Russia!! Any region can argue with you !!

    Except Moscow ...

    Yes Heroes are everywhere, but the essence of the rational is present.
    Now Moscow as a separate parasite state in Russia, everything that’s (the budget, standard of living, the meaning of life) and, for example, between a Russian and a Belarusian are much more common than a Muscovite. The average Muscovite really snickered (and Kalina is not a car and give a gift of blue instead of Russian cheese) and this is often striking (I know a lot of excellent Muscovites, therefore I write by the average).
    Moreover, at the moment you are wrong, in this Moscow there will also be many Heroes. As an everywhere.
    1. Persistent
      Persistent April 3 2016 17: 00
      +6
      The average Muscovite really snickered

      Well, I'm an average Muscovite !!! So Yuri, I snickered at 28 tyrov with the prices that are in Moscow ??? Feel the fever ....
      1. Yuri from Volgograd
        Yuri from Volgograd April 3 2016 17: 49
        +3
        Quote: Persistent
        The average Muscovite really snickered

        Well, I'm an average Muscovite !!! So Yuri, I snickered at 28 tyrov with the prices that are in Moscow ??? Feel the fever ....

        28 tyrov is not an average Muscovite at all.
        More than less-traveled Muscovites often have income per hundred square meters (for example, in sales), while in addition all sorts of benefits are either electricity or the social mask of a maskvach ...
        If a person is special intelligent, it is quite possible to get far for a hundred.
        I don’t argue with stamotologists or some other service, yes, it’s expensive for you, and ceteris paribus the standard of living is incomparable for example with Volgograd, Rostov, Astrakhan or Saratov.
        How curved, look at what they drive in Moscow, there are four not like ours.
        Just take the trouble to find a job and find yourself a better paid job, since the choice in Moscow is much greater (my employee last month went to the Ministry of Defense as a sales person and there he has an RFP for one hundred square meters, almost three times more than here).
        1. Persistent
          Persistent April 3 2016 17: 52
          +12
          If a person is special intelligent, it is quite possible to get far for a hundred.

          Even an intelligent specialist of pre-retirement age does not pay much ...
        2. borgen15
          borgen15 April 3 2016 22: 15
          +1
          Nobody really thinks that in Russia everyone sells in the same * Pyaterochka *, * Dixie * and others like them. Why do you decide that prices are higher in Moscow? the same prices but the salaries are not the same! And the rent is the same so believe me! A Muscovite friend told me: well, you also plant potato carrots!)) People go for a twenties horseradish knows where and in addition in a city or a village what a garden! this is not a village!). And in addition, if you are only on the road for 2-3 hours one way, I'm sorry here not to the summer house with potatoes! p / s Do not take to your address, but I go to work in Moscow from a neighboring region and I know everything in prices and tariffs! It’s just that no one always thinks that the provinces have the same retail chains and the same resellers. Nothing is cheaper than our income!
        3. Weyland
          Weyland April 4 2016 01: 04
          +2
          Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
          If a person is special intelligent, it is quite possible to get far for a hundred.


          Aha - in trade or something creative.
          I'm a top-class specialist (without bragging), I get 60 sput - for a techie. Almost all production in Moscow has been wiped out, Judas brat, for the sake of all kinds of business centers, etc. - one "Hammer and Sickle" was worth it!
          1. sherp2015
            sherp2015 April 4 2016 06: 43
            +1
            Quote: Weyland
            Aha - in trade or something creative.
            I'm a top-class specialist (without bragging), I get 60 sput - for a techie. Almost all production in Moscow has been wiped out, Judas brat, for the sake of all kinds of business centers, etc. - one "Hammer and Sickle" was worth it!


            Production destroyed almost throughout the country. And what is built by the current capitalist oligarchs is not ours, not popular. At any moment, the capitalist oligarch will kick out a dislike RABotnikA under the back of his knee (he specially marked it with letters so that the meaning of the word worker was understood)
  • nemez
    nemez April 3 2016 16: 47
    .
    All wars were waged by Siberians and Urals, there are few Muscovites
    1. Yuri from Volgograd
      Yuri from Volgograd April 3 2016 17: 00
      +5
      Quote: nemez
      All wars were waged by Siberians and Urals, there are few Muscovites

      Now there are practically no Muscovites in the army. Well, in any case, during the years of my service, I only heard about them, almost at the level of a legend, and even then the reviews were like unclean boy principles (the phrase is not mine).
      All with white tickets, the mole of the cripple was smuggled away.
      So someone is right here in a dispute, saying all the money to Moscow, and the guys from the regions to fight. The tacit caste system, all committed.
      And yet, let's show respect to the guy and we will not swear. Wrong article.
      1. Yars
        Yars April 3 2016 17: 41
        +3
        Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
        Quote: nemez
        All wars were waged by Siberians and Urals, there are few Muscovites

        Now there are practically no Muscovites in the army. Well, in any case, during the years of my service, I only heard about them, almost at the level of a legend, and even then the reviews were like unclean boy principles (the phrase is not mine).
        All with white tickets, the mole of the cripple was smuggled away.
        So someone is right here in a dispute, saying all the money to Moscow, and the guys from the regions to fight. The tacit caste system, all committed.
        And yet, let's show respect to the guy and we will not swear. Wrong article.

        Why deliberately prick Russia lies !? My friend from Moscow has a son in the army! For such comments as your need to ban on this forum !!!! and the stars how many on shoulder straps scored, I suppose patriotic pictures and comments!
        1. Retvizan 8
          Retvizan 8 April 3 2016 20: 41
          +4
          Oh nonsense, what nonsense!
          People stop, what nonsense are you discussing? Yes, people live everywhere and everyone is different!
          I served in the army, we had fifteen nationalities in the conscription! He was a kid from Moscow, so I’ll put you all as an example!
        2. Yuri from Volgograd
          Yuri from Volgograd April 3 2016 21: 55
          +2
          Quote: YARS
          Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
          Quote: nemez


          Why deliberately prick Russia lies !? My friend from Moscow has a son in the army! For such comments as your need to ban on this forum !!!! and the stars how many on shoulder straps scored, I suppose patriotic pictures and comments!

          1. What lies? The country is out of balance. As an example, I ask a Muscovite what car? - he answers the old Passat (4 trade wind of the year), a week later I ask Astrakhan - is the car new or not? - the pier is not old, 11 is four years old ... The actual standard of living is too different. Visit Russia, see what the average non-Muscovites live in (Kuban and some rare exceptions do not count).
          2. I really respect your companion whose son is a Muscovite, I’m really sorry that you only have one such Muscovite friend. Not from Moscow the familiar servicemen are probably much more (in the song Ryasteryaev Combiners, this is beautifully and aptly described by the line).
          3. If you ban me in the forum and leave only you please, then it will turn out some kind of site from United Russia. I am against this tyranny work out.
          4. About my epaulets and stars that I nasibiral patriotic pictures and comments. Why did you decide? Just a high IQ and understand everything in two lines? Nifiga, blunted in strongly. I frankly do not care about shoulder straps (I asked the rank and file of the site administration to stupidly fix me, since I am an ordinary guard), I periodically grab dozens of minuses (I’m beset by the stupidity of the patriots who are pushing the country into blind alley, each according to their capabilities) and You can easily check what I am writing and why.
          I do not like people like you, because you live comfortably (there is your opinion and wrong) and foolishly think of others.
          I put you a minus, could not resist your kindergarten.
          1. Surg
            Surg April 3 2016 23: 21
            +1
            I read here how they drive the Muscovites and even funny. I come from the Voronezh region, I have been living in the suburbs for about 20 years. There are relatives in the Voronezh region. And here is what I will tell you. I constantly hear that in Moscow all the rich, mad salaries, expensive cars, everyone eats lobsters. And here we are poor bread do not always eat. I worked here for 10 years as a sales representative in beer companies, in auto oil companies. And as it was written above, that at a salary of one hundred square meters, nothing like that, a salary of 25-30 thousand is close to one hundred in such companies as Pepsi and the like. Only in the regions to 9 to work in the vast majority, at 18.00 home. And in Moscow, to earn a hundredth, you need to be at work already at 8 in the morning, and you return home at 21-23.00. And go to work for 2-3 hours in traffic jams.
            Here the one who works earns. 12-16 hours a day. Cars are cooler because here people are 10-12 million and not all beggars, and yes, people work a lot and have little rest. Who does not work he receives 15-30 thousand. I have a population of about 100 thousand in my small homeland in the city, cars are sometimes cooler than in Moscow and there are more, my aunt works the same way and she lives even better than the average Moskvich.
            He who wants to live well is looking for a way, who does not want to work and at the same time wants to live well, he is looking for someone to blame for his laziness.

            And you do not need to divide the country according to regional characteristics, otherwise soon the principalities will appear again.
            And if you think that "you" live worse than in Moscow, change something in your life, and do not complain about life.!
            1. Yuri from Volgograd
              Yuri from Volgograd April 3 2016 23: 50
              +1
              Quote: Surg


              And you do not need to divide the country according to regional characteristics, otherwise soon the principalities will appear again.
              And if you think that "you" live worse than in Moscow, change something in your life, and do not complain about life.!

              I'm not complaining (where did you get it), I have enough, but not all my friends know.
              And Moscow as a separate principality and ZP is not 15-30 thousand at all. You don’t have to roll around your ears. Many who need a lot of money desperately go there to work (4 classmates and more just acquaintances arrived there).
              My trade left for a similar position (i.e., also a simple trading) in the Moscow region for 100 thousand. By the way in Castrol, i.e. like you in car oils.
            2. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch April 4 2016 01: 07
              0
              Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
              My trade left for a similar position (i.e., also a simple trading) in the Moscow region for 100 thousand.

              Well, of course. Only 100 Tajiks work for us. I read your opuses and never cease to be surprised ...
        3. Yars
          Yars April 5 2016 00: 09
          +1
          Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
          Quote: YARS
          Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
          Quote: nemez


          Why deliberately prick Russia lies !? My friend from Moscow has a son in the army! For such comments as your need to ban on this forum !!!! and the stars how many on shoulder straps scored, I suppose patriotic pictures and comments!

          1. What lies? The country is out of balance. As an example, I ask a Muscovite what car? - he answers the old Passat (4 trade wind of the year), a week later I ask Astrakhan - is the car new or not? - the pier is not old, 11 is four years old ... The actual standard of living is too different. Visit Russia, see what the average non-Muscovites live in (Kuban and some rare exceptions do not count).
          2. I really respect your companion whose son is a Muscovite, I’m really sorry that you only have one such Muscovite friend. Not from Moscow the familiar servicemen are probably much more (in the song Ryasteryaev Combiners, this is beautifully and aptly described by the line).
          3. If you ban me in the forum and leave only you please, then it will turn out some kind of site from United Russia. I am against this tyranny work out.
          4. About my epaulets and stars that I nasibiral patriotic pictures and comments. Why did you decide? Just a high IQ and understand everything in two lines? Nifiga, blunted in strongly. I frankly do not care about shoulder straps (I asked the rank and file of the site administration to stupidly fix me, since I am an ordinary guard), I periodically grab dozens of minuses (I’m beset by the stupidity of the patriots who are pushing the country into blind alley, each according to their capabilities) and You can easily check what I am writing and why.
          I do not like people like you, because you live comfortably (there is your opinion and wrong) and foolishly think of others.
          I put you a minus, could not resist your kindergarten.

          but at least 20 cons, I spit! You do not need high IQ for paid trolling. Yes, you have a kindergarten, he compares cars by region, I can't laugh! If there are such differences in every state, believe me, in Germany in the western part the standard of living is twice as high as in the eastern part of the country and no one keeps snot about parasites! Your nonsense solely for the sake of the enemies of Russia, for the sake of the western customer! In fact, this is an attempt to split the state, and this is already extremism! ban you need! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
    2. valentber
      valentber April 3 2016 18: 35
      +2
      Right! And "they say, cripples" all the time and in other places.
  • valentber
    valentber April 3 2016 18: 32
    0
    Well this is complete nonsense! You have some kind of isolationist mood.
  • cap
    cap April 3 2016 18: 14
    +1
    Quote: SHAMAN
    Quote: Alexey Z.
    He's from Russia!! Any region can argue with you !!

    Except Moscow ...


    Well, you do not sham so!
    I got an education in Moscow, how did the capital annoy you?
  • valentber
    valentber April 3 2016 18: 22
    +4
    Moscow - it is different. There are much more ordinary working people in it than it seems from the outside. :))
  • NordUral
    NordUral April 3 2016 19: 30
    +6
    Moscow should not be confused with the liberal bastard in power and their children.
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  • wervolf
    wervolf April 3 2016 15: 52
    +1
    no arguing, any region will not yield
  • Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 3 2016 13: 54
    +45
    Quote: SHAMAN
    Orenburg ....! Urals, Siberia is always the basis of Russia and the defense was ...

    Let's divide Russia into Orenburg and Moscow, Tatars and Buryats. fool Even the Frenchman correctly understood this, unlike you: "for the honor of their flag."
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 3 2016 14: 05
      .
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Quote: SHAMAN
      Orenburg ....! Urals, Siberia is always the basis of Russia and the defense was ...

      Let's divide Russia into Orenburg and Moscow, Tatars and Buryats. fool Even the Frenchman correctly understood this, unlike you: "for the honor of their flag."

      Come on, Russia has long been divided ... Like awards and salaries, Moscow comes first! But to die for the Motherland (when you have nothing for your soul except your pregnant wife) This is the province .. Now they will give the hero and forget! What’s wrong, how many Muscovites of GSh heroes are there?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 3 2016 14: 19
        +14
        Quote: SHAMAN
        Come on, Russia has long been divided ..

        By whom? You?
        Quote: SHAMAN
        .As rewards and salaries, Moscow comes first!

        So it was ALWAYS! When princes, kings. The USSR and now, the capital has always stood apart, that Peter, that Moscow, do not once again interfere with all this.
      2. Svyatoslav lee
        Svyatoslav lee April 3 2016 14: 38
        +24
        I will upset you: in Moscow there are just over 14% of the indigenous population. The rest came to live and work. From Orenburg as well. And in general the power of St. Petersburg. There are also criminals from all over the world and energetic, talented people, and everyone you can imagine has come here. And you judge the city by the garbage. This is a stupid country style to divide people into "from our village" and strangers.
        1. vandarus
          vandarus April 4 2016 10: 51
          0
          What the ... The memory of the officer who died in battle was reduced to "Muscovite" - "not Muscovite". It's disgusting to read some of the comments! Blow on Ukrainian resources, waste your fuse!
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      3. heccrbq8
        heccrbq8 April 3 2016 14: 55
        .
        laughing You still do not understand where you got!
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina April 3 2016 15: 08
          +31
          Quote: heccrbq8
          laughing You still do not understand where you got!


          Obviously not the censor, and therefore be affectionate, behave in the framework of decency, moreover, we are talking about a dead hero and not you throw a stone at him. He is clearly not your equal! And your emoticon is * fucking * out of place, and if it’s funny for you, then laugh at the burnt Odessa residents, maybe it’s easier. Another thing is how you will be met in the next world, probably they will also put emoticons when they fry you.

          Not at all, no mind, no conscience!
          1. veteran66
            veteran66 April 3 2016 15: 16
            .
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            and therefore be affectionate

            "be a weasel" - please in Ukrainian, do not know MOV, write in Russian
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina April 3 2016 15: 20
              +35
              Quote: veteran66
              Quote: Diana Ilyina
              and therefore be affectionate

              "be a weasel" - please in Ukrainian, do not know MOV, write in Russian


              I don’t know and don’t want to know, I wrote on the great and powerful, and not on surzhik, who has a place in the trash!
              1. veteran66
                veteran66 April 3 2016 15: 31
                .
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                on surzhik, which place in the trash!

                in the "great and mighty" there are well-established expressions "be kind" and "be kind" if you boast of your knowledge of your native language. And surzhik is spoken by that part of the population of Ukraine who considers themselves Russian, and part of the border population of Russia too, and you are in the furnace ...
                1. EvgNik
                  EvgNik April 3 2016 16: 38
                  +16
                  Quote: veteran66
                  "be kind" and "be kind"

                  Alex, Diana spoke normal Russian. And be more polite with a woman, you are not in the market. And the topic is not one to breed squabbles.
                2. veteran66
                  veteran66 April 3 2016 17: 18
                  -6
                  Quote: EvgNik
                  And be more polite with a woman, you are not in the market.

                  and where was I being impolite? And at the "bazaar", in my opinion, she fell into a seizure without understanding.
                3. EvgNik
                  EvgNik April 3 2016 18: 01
                  +3
                  Alex, be a man in the end.
                  I don’t understand, but the expressions in Russian “be gentle” no?

                  Stas, why not be this expression? It is perfectly said without any violation of the rules. There are such expressions that you can’t even find a surzhik.
                4. Weyland
                  Weyland April 4 2016 01: 13
                  0
                  Quote: EvgNik
                  Quite normally said, without any violation of the rules


                  This is a classic surzhik - and many words from the Ukrainian surzhik are often found far from Nezalezhnaya (and are often taken for colloquial speech, for example - "instead" (instead of + deputy). And that "girls" is also surzhik, in the course * (mix "girls" and "divchata")
          2. otter.1
            otter.1 April 3 2016 16: 49
            +3
            I don’t understand, but the expressions in Russian “be gentle” no?
            That's interesting.
          3. veteran66
            veteran66 April 3 2016 17: 15
            -3
            Quote: otter.1
            and the expression in Russian "be gentle" no?

            in the context in which it is applied - no, it looks like a distorted from the Ukrainian "be weasel" - please.
          4. hrapon
            hrapon April 3 2016 17: 41
            +4
            Quote: veteran66
            Quote: otter.1
            and the expression in Russian "be gentle" no?

            in the context in which it is applied - no, it looks like a distorted from the Ukrainian "be weasel" - please.


            Uh, my friend, suspiciousness is not a diagnosis yet, BUT .... will be affectionate promote paranoia.
          5. ver_
            ver_ April 6 2016 03: 30
            +1
            ... did not try to be baptized, the life-giving cross works wonders ..
      4. valentber
        valentber April 3 2016 18: 42
        0
        This is called "Ostap suffered"!
      5. roadsmell
        roadsmell April 3 2016 20: 23
        +2
        in the "great and mighty" there are well-established expressions "be kind" and "be kind" if you boast of your knowledge of your native language. And surzhik is spoken by that part of the population of Ukraine who considers themselves Russian, and part of the border population of Russia too, and you are in the furnace ...

        Surzhik? ...
        Real language, without Russian - you’ll understand the fix:
      6. avia1991
        avia1991 April 4 2016 00: 05
        0
        Quote: veteran66
        in the "great and mighty" there are well-established expressions "be kind" and "be kind

        Are you a great connoisseur of the Russian language? Will you demand here that everyone communicate in the classical literary, without taking into account regional characteristics?
        Mayakovsky would trample you on the floor wassat - this is about "established expressions". If it's not a secret - what vocabulary do you own? what
    2. d1m1drol
      d1m1drol April 4 2016 09: 03
      0
      Diana, with all due respect to you, I want to remind you that thousands of Russian citizens, including my parents, speak the language that you refer to the trash. So I will ask you to think before writing. Either you admit the mistake and apologize, or you do not differ from those who are stubborn in radicalism and urge you to send to the trash that population that is the carrier of surzhik in the territory of the Russian Federation.
  • valentber
    valentber April 3 2016 18: 41
    -3
    Get out of topic!
  • cap
    cap April 3 2016 16: 59
    +2
    Quote: Diana Ilyina

    Not at all, no mind, no conscience!


    Stupid argument. Zateyan is not clear why.
    Moscow is the capital of Russia and that’s it. hi .My regards.
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 April 3 2016 19: 07
    +2
    Quote: heccrbq8
    You still do not understand where you got!

    Chill out Vasya! tongue
  • AleksUkr
    AleksUkr April 3 2016 15: 01
    +13
    Quote: SHAMAN
    Come on, Russia has long been divided ... Like awards and salaries, Moscow comes first! But to die for the Motherland (when you have nothing for your soul except your pregnant wife) This is the province .. Now they will give the hero and forget! What’s wrong, how many Muscovites of GSh heroes are there?


    How much anger, hatred ... Foam crawls right out of your mouth. It is interesting who your mother is and how she raised you. I feel sorry for her ... Yes, and you too. You will die of malice ahead of time ...
  • Belopolyak
    Belopolyak April 3 2016 15: 06
    +9
    Quote: SHAMAN
    Come on, Russia has long been divided ... Like awards and salaries, Moscow comes first! But to die for the Motherland (when you have nothing for your soul except your pregnant wife) This is the province .. Now they will give the hero and forget! What’s wrong, how many Muscovites of GSh heroes are there?

    Not a very good example, but nothing else comes to my mind in the near future ... in general, the closest example 1 and 2 is Chechen ... even I didn’t hear that the people were filonous and evaded going like everyone else. It’s just that now there are few losses, and those people who gave their lives were from the province .... this is not an indicator, we should be glad that our guys are mostly awake and live. On the spot, this guy could be any other from the Urals, Far East, South, Center, including Moscow. You incite hatred to the Muscovites themselves. In ordinary sleeping areas, for the most part, the same people live here as Rostov or Novosibirsk. Moreover! Half or more Muscovites have parents from the province or themselves from there. Just a big city is changing people, that's all.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 April 4 2016 00: 07
      +1
      Quote: Belopolsky
      Simple big city changes people that's all.

      So this, in fact, is the question ..
  • your1970
    your1970 April 3 2016 15: 44
    +23
    "Over the years in Chechnya, the sons of nine generals and fifty-five colonels have died. This is rarely remembered.
    During the war in Chechnya in the 1994-1996 years the sons died:
    Lieutenant General ANOSHIN Gennady Yakovlevich;
    Major General NALETOV Gennady Afanasevich;
    Lieutenant General SUSLOV Vyacheslav Fedorovich;
    Lieutenant General of PULIKOVSKY Konstantin Borisovich;
    Major General Anatoly Mikhailovich FILIPENK;
    Major General of Aviation Anatoly Chigashov;
    Colonel General Shpak Georgy Ivanovich.
    Lieutenant General SCHEPINA Yuri.
    In 1999, the son of Lieutenant General Viktor Aleksandrovich SOLOMATIN was killed in Chechnya "

    This is about the generals, Moscow (although I also dislike it) and Russia ....
    1. cap
      cap April 3 2016 18: 05
      +3
      Quote: your1970
      This is about the generals, Moscow (although I also dislike it) and Russia ..


      I studied and worked in Moscow for more than 15 years. However, I live on the banks of the Amur and am happy!
      Familiar in Moscow with generals and their children.
      Your list is not complete.
      Without naming surnames (unfortunately to my parents' memory) I would add one son of a respected general who died in Afghanistan. He is not on the list.
      There were and are generals (and will be in Russia) who died heroes. But their names did not die. They are in our lives and the stories of our children and grandchildren.
      They fought for the MOTHERLAND,that says it all hi .
  • vitvit123
    vitvit123 April 3 2016 16: 25
    +14
    In the Moscow region there is the city of Kolomna! There lived a guy Vyacheslav Sedov! In 2002, he died, in the same way as this guy in Syria. Awarded two Orders of Courage !!! They won’t write much about him, because he was prefixed with special ..., there are short notes on Kolomna’s websites. Before that, he did not stay long with my company! The real hero! He was young, he has a young wife, probably also wanted to live ... And you are about Muscovites, Uralites, Siberians!
  • wervolf
    wervolf April 3 2016 17: 06
    -9
    Yes, no matter how much, we and the Muscovites have different Russia and a different motherland
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 3 2016 17: 21
      +8
      Speak for yourself.
    2. hrapon
      hrapon April 3 2016 17: 49
      +5
      Quote: wervolf
      Yes, no matter how much, we and the Muscovites have different Russia and a different motherland


      I don’t understand. Have you lost the instruction? Well, they could not draw up an instruction from one point in the State Department, they say, Moskivich is evil. Or does intelligence not allow one to concentrate on more than one point at a time?
      1. Winter cherry
        Winter cherry April 4 2016 10: 39
        0
        Wervolf - SS Sonderkommando. He-Svidomo and talk with him nothing.
    3. valentber
      valentber April 3 2016 18: 48
      +2
      But this does not wait! Russia is one for all of us. And may it always be so. Your aggressiveness can only be compared with the Maidan Nazis in Ukraine.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 April 3 2016 17: 20
    +4
    "Russia has long been divided" - Mentally retarded and paranoid schizophrenics.
  • valentber
    valentber April 3 2016 18: 39
    +2
    You’re kind of evil, comrade!
  • Dryuya2
    Dryuya2 April 3 2016 19: 03
    +2
    Quote: SHAMAN
    Come on

    ram you - come to such a topic to pull and arrange srach fool
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 April 3 2016 19: 11
      +2
      Quote: Dryuya2
      ram you - come to such a topic

      He is not a ram but MIKHAN request But what's the difference? what
  • mihasik
    mihasik April 3 2016 15: 15
    +8
    Quote: SHAMAN
    Orenburg ....! Urals, Siberia is always the basis of Russia and the defense was ...


    In order to "not be", the Yeltsin Center was built in Yekaterinburg, which Putin and Medvedev supported with his presence at the opening.
    But despite all the perverted shit democracy in our country, thank God, people like Alexander Prokhorenko are not translated. Eternal memory to a simple Russian guy.
    1. cap
      cap April 3 2016 18: 11
      +1
      Quote: mihasik
      But despite all the perverted shit democracy in our country, thank God, people like Alexander Prokhorenko are not translated. Eternal memory to a simple Russian guy.


      And this is true! hi
  • Blondy
    Blondy April 3 2016 15: 09
    +10
    I also join, but I want to highlight one point: a sample of a sort of "Hollywood poetry" associated with the feat of our Russian guy has already begun to walk on the network.

    Officer: They saw me. There's a gunfight around here, I'm stuck. I demand an immediate evacuation.
    Commander: Requesting evacuation.
    Officer: Please hurry, I have few rounds left. They climb from everywhere, I won’t last long, please hurry up.
    Commander: Evacuation confirmed. Hold them, keep firing back. Go to a safe place, air support is on the way. Give your contact information.
    Officer: <gives coordinates>.
    Commander: <repeated coordinates>. Confirm.
    Officer: Confirmed. Please hurry, I have a little ammunition left. They surround me, bastards.
    Officer: They are close. I am surrounded. It may be too late. Tell my family that I love them.
    Commander: Return to the green line, hold fire, help along the way. Wait for air support.
    Officer: I can’t, I am surrounded, there are a lot of these coves.
    Officer: They are here. Requesting an air attack. You are welcome. Hurry, this is the end. Tell my family - I love them and die, fighting for my homeland.
    Commander: No, return to the green line.
    Officer: I can’t. Commander, I'm surrounded. They are here. I don’t want them to take me and take me prisoner. Requesting an air attack. They will mock me and the uniform (Russia - approx.ed.). I want to die with dignity, I want all of these UBDLDs to die with me. Please fulfill my last will - request an attack from the air. In any case, they will kill me.
    Commander: Please confirm your request.
    Officer: They are here. This is the end, Comrade Commander, thank you. Tell my family and my country that I love. Tell them that I was brave and I fought, but I can’t do anything else. Please take care of my family, avenge my death. Comrade Commander, goodbye. Tell my family - I really love them.
    Commander: <no response, order for airstrike follows>

    The fact that this is "Hollywood", a Russian man who served, will defer the entry. I don't know the purpose of launching this fake, at first it flashed that the original was in English, then it appeared in French, and from French it was already translated into Russian. Even the boys felt that this is a work of an alien, not Russian, mentality. Well, they began to model the Russian version, of course, they fell into a banter, respectively, they received a stick from the elders for their disrespectful attitude to the feat.
    But now, the Hollywood version of the feat is already walking the world in several languages. I would like to receive some official refutation or confirmation of this entry. Well, and probably the heavens will not get lost from the violation of secrecy if a real entry is published (well, we will somehow survive the mate or ellipses, after all, not in the courses of noble girls). Moreover, this feat of the Russian officer has already received worldwide resonance. Even former (and not only) "partners" -colleagues send letters of respect and condolences to our spetsnaz sites. I would not want the feat of a Russian officer to be fed around the world in a Hollywood wrapper as an example of a valiant American mentality.
    1. veteran66
      veteran66 April 3 2016 15: 23
      +6
      Quote: Blondy
      I would not want the feat of a Russian officer to be fed around the world in a Hollywood wrapper as an example of a valiant American mentality.

      unfortunately, people abroad have so much brains with this Hollywood that they would rather believe in this dialogue than in the present. But the idea that, in contrast to this product of Western thought, you need to publish a real dialogue, I support.
      1. Blondy
        Blondy April 3 2016 17: 03
        +1
        Quote: veteran66
        unfortunately, people abroad have so much brains with this Hollywood that they would rather believe in this dialogue than in the present. But the idea that, in contrast to this product of Western thought, you need to publish a real dialogue, I support.

        Well, about publishing, I, like a blonde, of course, got excited. There, the exchange is probably encoded - it's not Hollywood, so that the last idiot could understand everything. And in general, a scrambler should be on the radio, so that there can be no talk of any interception of verbal radio exchange. Well, and why should the guys give out comparable information for consideration?
      2. cap
        cap April 3 2016 18: 33
        0
        Quote: veteran66
        . But the idea that, in contrast to this product of Western thought, you need to publish a real dialogue, I support.


        Also for. +
    2. wervolf
      wervolf April 3 2016 16: 03
      +1
      The main thing is how we RUSSIAN, we perceive it,
    3. valentber
      valentber April 3 2016 18: 51
      +1
      Judging by the vocabulary and speech turnovers, this is tracing paper from English. Russians don’t think and say that. You are right, it seems like a cheap scenario.
    4. tolancop
      tolancop April 3 2016 19: 58
      0
      "..That this is" Hollywood "a Russian man who has served will call the flight."
      I support. If the dialogue was real, the expressions would be much shorter and stronger. I will still believe in the "last hello" to my family, but not in life ...
      Explicit fake. And cooked up not RUSSIAN.
  • midivan
    midivan April 3 2016 20: 05
    +3
    but I’m not shooting, and if it’s not difficult to translate Personally from me, the Frenchman, keep quiet French, keep silent Europe, while Charlie is in you, only Tyutchev lives in me and for me you are also a trainer. Charlie, while you have a slut, olland, any of your statements is empty for me and you just have contempt, so keep quiet, keep silent in any way, and about people like Alexander you have no right to speak at all
  • demo
    demo April 3 2016 13: 01
    +38
    The hat is removed in front of their own.
    The Frenchman must be given credit.
    And this Man, with a capital letter, is worthy of being remembered while standing.
    I have no words.
    There is pain: for family, for relatives, for loved ones.
    1. Alexey Z.
      Alexey Z. April 3 2016 13: 11
      +21
      I agree with you completely! Films must be made about such Heroes! In schools, tell children in the lessons of Courage! What would they remember and know!
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter April 3 2016 13: 14
      +13
      Well, it’s necessary, as I wrote! Already in the throat stagnated. Once the French were brave soldiers, and almost on equal terms fought with ours in the war of the 12th year and near Sevastopol. World War I somehow broke the nation.
      The last time is helplessness and surrender to challenges. A crap in Paris, in which a group of loudly speaking Arabs and Negroes, littering where they stand, catches my eye - I’m not imagining Champs Elysees for Christmas! And the geyropeys shyly clinging to the walls, apparently, so as not to attract the attention of these ...
      1. wervolf
        wervolf April 3 2016 16: 08
        -4
        But no shit. It’s not a pity, let the creatures choke on their shit ..
    3. Asadullah
      Asadullah April 3 2016 14: 18
      +5
      The hat is removed in front of their own.


      The hat is taken off of respect. To become your own, it’s not enough to take off your hat.
  • vlad66
    vlad66 April 3 2016 13: 08
    +35
    Thank you Charles for your kind word. Alexander Prokhorenko is now on a par with the same heroes who gave their lives for others to live on earth in all wars and conflicts in which Russia, the USSR, and the Russian Empire took part. . recourse
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur April 3 2016 13: 44
      +7
      Quote: vlad66
      Thank you Charles for your kind word.
      By joining and subscribing to his words about our courageous Hero Alexander Prokhorenko, one can definitely say "I am Charles!", Expressing our solidarity with him. I am glad that in France (and not only) there are people who really understand who is who, humanly related.

      At the same time - "I am not Charlie"!
  • forester
    forester April 3 2016 13: 19
    +12
    Quote: Finches
    Hats off to a Frenchman!

    But I’m not taking it off, but I take it for granted the feat of our OFFICER. They all owe their existence to the RUSSIAN SOLDIER
    1. roadsmell
      roadsmell April 3 2016 13: 38
      +50
      There is nothing to take off hats in front of the paddles.
      We have such military traditions ...


      1. Genals
        Genals April 3 2016 14: 43
        +5
        You're wrong. The paddling pool does not risk life, of course, but for sure, it deserves a professional respect.
        1. roadsmell
          roadsmell April 3 2016 18: 39
          0
          And you also kneel down before this Frenchman ... For the fact that today he just did not smear this guy, us, our army and our country with thunder. And not the fact that he did not do this before and will not do it from now on.

          And the career of zhurnalyugi and military duty are two, as it were, incompatible, rather, even heteropolistic features of heteropolistic professions.
  • Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 April 3 2016 13: 53
    +34
    Quote: Finches
    Hats off to a Frenchman!

    Here is his photo.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 3 2016 14: 14
      +7
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      Here is his photo.

      By the way, the comments on the site with the original article are quite indicative. The vast majority of the type:
      "and nothing in the newspapers ... it's a shame ... this Man with a capital H deserves the highest honor, full respect and condolences to his family."
      or
      “This reminds us of memories: Sevastopol, Stalingrad, or the Russians showed the heroism that the US must give in its mad quest to conquer the world!
      This young soldier showed extraordinary courage justifies our admiration and sadness for his family and his country.
      This Zinoviev wrote: "The Germans could fight, and the Russians were able to die."

      (Sorry for my Google, but the meaning is clear). what
      1. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 April 3 2016 14: 23
        +5
        Well, not all the French are I-Charlie. Something human must remain in them.
    2. valentber
      valentber April 3 2016 18: 56
      0
      Thank you, comrade!
    3. opus
      opus April 4 2016 02: 51
      +3
      Quote: Kos_kalinki9
      Here is his photo.


      And here is Alexander and Catherine (wife)
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich April 3 2016 14: 26
    +8
    Quote: Finches
    Hats off to a Frenchman!

    and I take off my hat to the Captain of the Russian Armed Forces. Respect to the Parents ...
    1. roadsmell
      roadsmell April 3 2016 14: 35
      +2
      And the same French, like everyone else, are obliged to take off their hats. And not we in front of them.
      Reasons throughout history - more than enough.
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 April 3 2016 20: 16
        0
        Quote: roadsmell
        And the same French, like everyone else, are obliged to take off their hats. And not we in front of them.
        Reasons throughout history - more than enough.

        What kind of disputes are you crazy? We take off our hat - no, let them take off their hat; real men are only in the provinces - no, there are also in Moscow ... Have you forgotten about the dead guy? God forbid him in the next world to find out what kind of bazaar there was arranged about his death. A young officer of the Russian Army worthily took death in an unequal battle! The grief of his relatives is immeasurable and no words will comfort them .. And the guy is a Hero. From Orenburg? So ours, Russian. Kingdom to him is heaven.
        1. roadsmell
          roadsmell April 3 2016 20: 51
          0
          This is not a debate - this is the essence of the people says ...

          Western journalist paid attention to a man who has fulfilled his military duty (there are NO other people with other goals in this structure) - laudatory psalms are pouring in, almost comes to idolatry.
          And the fact that this journalist fucked up yesterday or tomorrow will start at the same place is like a drum for you.
          Open your eyes - WE DO NOT HAVE FRIENDS AND ALLIES, we do not have empathy with our tragedies. We have only the ARMY.
          That's it!
          Only she can make (!!!) become our allies or friends. No options.
          If it doesn’t reach anyone’s managerial brains, it’s very sad.
          Although .. Managery brains do not do politics and do not affect the growth of the economy.
          But they have nothing to do with military duty.
          1. DMB_95
            DMB_95 April 4 2016 09: 17
            0
            Where did you find even a word about magazines in my post? And I don't have to "open my eyes." That Our Army is our EVERYTHING (and not Pushkin), I have long been sure without extraneous reminders. I wrote that it's not a hell of a bazaar on the subject of the death of the Hero! Remind him of his military duty ...
    2. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 April 3 2016 14: 42
      +6
      [quote] Andrey Yuryevich (5) [quote] [/ quote I take off my hat to the Captain of the Russian Armed Forces.e] [/ quote]
      You know, I completely agree with you. This is a real Hero, Man and Patriot of his Homeland.
      But you must admit that in this situation, when the Western media poured mud and lies on our Army and our Army more than once a day, such a civil position of the French journalist is worthy of respect.
  • demchuk.ig
    demchuk.ig April 3 2016 15: 08
    0
    Quote: Finches
    Hats off to a Frenchman!

    And the French are now launching another hat, wherever they themselves have allowed!
  • nemez
    nemez April 3 2016 16: 45
    +1
    surprised !!! the west wakes up?! had to be put for the sake of their awakening our guys ?!
  • 1goose3
    1goose3 April 3 2016 19: 53
    +1
    I take off my hat with you, but first of all I kneel before the ashes of the fighter of our hero, I kneel before the parents and relatives of Sasha Prokhorenko.
  • Simple
    Simple April 3 2016 22: 57
    +1
    It’s better (to take off his hat) to Alexander’s parents, grandmothers and relatives.
    Low bow.
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 3 2016 12: 52
    +10
    Thank you Charles for your kind words ..But if you stick to the French press, you might get the impression that no feat of the army of our own country deserves more than two lines.... So such an impression develops ...
  • newcomer
    newcomer April 3 2016 12: 53
    +17
    Bravo author! nothing to add.
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 3 2016 12: 55
    +14
    "This Russian soldier is a real hero (Boulevard Voltaire, France)"
    So think there in NATO what awaits you (God forbid that). And who is the Russian soldier.
  • Wolverine
    Wolverine April 3 2016 12: 56
    +17
    Of course, the Russians are different, from another test, if you want, we can’t solve us. We are able to forgive, understand and die with dignity.
  • forester
    forester April 3 2016 12: 56
    +10
    This is poetry in Hollywood, something not a single American soldier is capable of in the entire history of their army. Our guy’s feat is not poetry, but the harsh prose of the centuries-old and glorious history of the Russian army.
  • Rokossovsky
    Rokossovsky April 3 2016 12: 56
    +18
    Charles Rouvier - real men have remained even among Western journalists.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 3 2016 12: 57
    +11
    It's nice to hear this from a Frenchman, for which many thanks to him. I hope that many people in France will read this and draw their own conclusions. And shame on Hollande, who within a week simulated the "fight" with ISIS and, forgetting about the victims in Paris, got away with it.
  • goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx April 3 2016 12: 57
    +5
    sometimes the foreign press writes more objectively ours-respect
  • vglazunov
    vglazunov April 3 2016 12: 58
    +48
    Opinion of an employee of the American private military company "Blackwater" about the combat effectiveness of different countries.

    To oppose a platoon of Russian mercenaries is a fierce bloody story. They fight to the end, to the last bullet, and when the ammunition runs out - they use everything that is at hand. Mortally wounded a Russian? Do not touch him, most likely before his death, he squeezed a grenade without a check. Russians are inventive, have great intuition. And extremely brave. Has the plane arrived? They knock down a sapper blade. Tank? It's okay if your hands are not broken. Fighters who have never held SVD at a critical moment are able to get out of it at the limit of range. And still, that this was the last cartridge, they will beat the enemy with the rifle itself. Tactics and strategy? Easy! By any composition, from the army to the half-dead cripple, holding alone the company of the enemy. Russians, even mercenaries, are not able to retreat. And if you retreat - be sure, they just run after the cartridges. All of the above applies to the army, who are more or less fired. However, for this in most cases a single clash is enough ...
    http://www.segodnia.ru/content/139729
    1. valentber
      valentber April 3 2016 19: 00
      +2
      Nice to read the hell!
  • Altona
    Altona April 3 2016 12: 59
    +6
    Although France surrendered in 1940, and then betrayed De Gaulle as the "winner", still the soldier's courage and valor is not an empty phrase for them. Napoleon's soldiers conquered all of continental Europe and northern Africa at one time, and they had heroes in the form of old experienced staunch guards, whom the emperor threw into battle as a last resort.
  • sichevik
    sichevik April 3 2016 12: 59
    +6
    But it is interesting, can the Americans or the British give an example of the same feat of their fellow citizens? At least for the last century. If anyone has information --- share.
    1. Awaz
      Awaz April 3 2016 13: 06
      +5
      only in the movies. Although over a century, if the latter, then you can probably find something. Although I don’t know.
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 April 3 2016 13: 15
      +19
      Quote: sichevik
      But it is interesting, can the Americans or the British give an example of the same feat of their fellow citizens?

      Maybe "Saving Private Ryan", "Soldier Jane" series about Rambo, more comrades do not come to mind. request
      1. Altona
        Altona April 3 2016 13: 18
        +5
        Quote: 79807420129
        Maybe "Saving Private Ryan"

        -------------------
        Yesterday I read about the "valiant landing in Normandy." All PR from start to finish. More people were killed from fear than from real opposition.
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 April 3 2016 13: 26
        +8
        Colleagues, you forgot the last fairy tale Hollywood "fury"
        By the way, I won’t be surprised if in what next Hollywood action movie, what kind of brutal marines would cause fire on themselves. Americans love other people's exploits and courage to ascribe to themselves. There are a lot of examples. Let’s say that these declared the main battle of the second world battle for Okinawa.
        1. Andrey NM
          Andrey NM April 3 2016 14: 09
          +5
          Well, why, they have examples ... On October 25, 1854, a light brigade of British cavalry attacked our redoubts and even had intermediate success, but the counterattack of three squadrons of Lieutenant Colonel Eropkin sent the British to flight. At the same time, the British lost almost everyone under the fire of our artillery. The purpose of the attack was generally not very clear to the attackers. These six hundred in England are heroes, and the fact that a blunt order was given is another question.
          1. Awaz
            Awaz April 3 2016 15: 36
            +3
            ... by the way, then almost all the color of British glamorous youth was destroyed. The kids wanted to beautifully show off on the Russians and got what they deserved.
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 April 3 2016 16: 21
              +1
              Quote: AwaZ
              The kids wanted to beautifully show off on the Russians and got what they deserved.

              Speak incorrectly. They carried out the order. Probably stupid, ill-conceived, but he almost reached his goal and only a counterattack forced the British to retreat
              "Coming out from behind the summit, on which Redoubt No. 4 was located, the British cavalry rushed towards our cavalry. Skudery's infantry curled up in squares and met the attack with strong fire. The artillery opened frequent and cross-fire. However, the movement of the British was so fast that our canister shot transferred over their heads, and they swooped down on the Don battery. Frustrated by the horse breeders, charging boxes and limbers who passed through him, he took the blow on the spot, was overturned, crushed during the retreat of the Leuchtenberg hussars, and with them the hussars of the Duke of Saxe-Weimar standing in the third line, our cavalry began to withdraw to the water supply canal located in its rear, the British pursued relentlessly, and a general decisive action took place at the bridge over the canal. alka. Seeing the critical position of our cavalry, General Liprandi ordered 12 squadrons of the combined Uhlan regiment, standing secretly in the bushes, to attack the enemy on the flank. Exhausted by heavy losses from fire and hand-to-hand combat, the English cavalry found it difficult to withstand a new blow, and, seeing the enemy's movement in the flank, General Cardigan decided to retreat. Having closed ranks, the British in exemplary order began to retreat in two lines. However, the 1st line was almost destroyed by an attack on the flank of the lancers. The 3nd managed to break through, but, in general, the Cardigan brigade ceased to exist: out of 1 horsemen who rushed into the attack, no more than 2 returned ... "
              1. Andrey NM
                Andrey NM April 3 2016 17: 03
                +3
                A little off topic ... Interestingly, General Lord Raglan and Major General James Bradenell, Earl Cardigan are directly related to the same types of clothing. In fact, they began to wear comfortable clothes of this cut. And all Sevastopol ...
              2. Awaz
                Awaz April 3 2016 17: 12
                0
                Well, I actually said something figuratively. wink Order by order, but potentially the color of the nation for slaughter, no one would send. The situation was really not in favor of the Russian army, and the British decided to have a nice talk, what would later become famous in history textbooks ...
                1. Vladimirets
                  Vladimirets April 3 2016 18: 18
                  0
                  Quote: AwaZ
                  the British decided to ponte beautifully, what would later become famous in the history books ...

                  "Pontanutsya" there decided one Cardigan, who had graters with a higher command.
          2. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets April 3 2016 18: 17
            0
            Quote: Andrey NM
            Well, why, they have examples ... On October 25, 1854, a light brigade of British cavalry attacked our redoubts and even had intermediate success, but the counterattack of three squadrons of Lieutenant Colonel Eropkin sent the British to flight. At the same time, the British lost almost everyone under the fire of our artillery. The purpose of the attack was generally not very clear to the attackers. These six hundred in England are heroes, and the fact that a blunt order was given is another question.

            By the way, there is a good English film of 1968 on this subject, quite truthful.
        2. Awaz
          Awaz April 3 2016 15: 37
          +1
          already somewhere I once saw a topic as someone from American movie heroes caused fire on themselves.
      3. sichevik
        sichevik April 3 2016 16: 28
        0
        Quote: 79807420129
        Quote: sichevik
        But it is interesting, can the Americans or the British give an example of the same feat of their fellow citizens?

        Maybe "Saving Private Ryan", "Soldier Jane" series about Rambo, more comrades do not come to mind. request

        Well, there are more than many such "examples" in Hollywood. Heard about them. By the way, I never saw any of these films. As it is not interesting. Here I watch "Checks on the roads" by Alexey German with pleasure all the time. "They fought for the Motherland" I always watch with pleasure.
    3. smart Fox
      smart Fox April 3 2016 13: 17
      +14
      Private Ryan is saved by a whole army, and we have a private by the whole army. Feel the difference!
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 April 3 2016 13: 24
        +11
        Quote: Sly Fox
        Private Ryan is saved by a whole army, and we have a private by the whole army. Feel the difference!

        Well, the truth is they save in CINEMA, and not in reality. Feel the difference. hi
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch April 3 2016 12: 59
    +7
    A voice crying in the wilderness. On one such publication - bags of dirt from screens and tons of "posts" and "times", which do not lie at all insolently, but distort the facts that stupid-European Americans are happy to eat.
    1. YohanPalych
      YohanPalych April 3 2016 13: 52
      0
      Quote: iliitch
      A voice crying in the wilderness. On one such publication - bags of dirt from screens and tons of "posts" and "times", which do not lie at all insolently, but distort the facts that stupid-European Americans are happy to eat.

      Valery, partly I agree with you (partly because they don’t hawk not with “pleasure”, but “what they give” without thinking)
      But more and more people “there” step over the line, which is called: To Live Not By Lies.
      hi
  • Monos
    Monos April 3 2016 13: 00
    +42
    What the French think about this is purple to me. It is important for me that our children know about the guy's feat. They should know what a real feat is. Must see the correct examples, without the puppet "Rembs".
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 April 3 2016 13: 03
    +13
    The honor shown by the Russian officer in battle returns realism to the assessments of what is happening even among foreign journalists ...
  • Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 April 3 2016 13: 06
    +4
    Let other countries know how Russia honors and honors its heroes.
  • Masya masya
    Masya masya April 3 2016 13: 07
    +20
    Amer’s warriors can only call for reinforcements ... And only our soldiers can fire on themselves !!! Everlasting memory!!!
  • izya top
    izya top April 3 2016 13: 10
    +3
    "TRP badge on his chest ..."
    everlasting memory soldier
    1. Genals
      Genals April 3 2016 14: 38
      +6
      Not a badge, but a Sign! Do not misinterpret the classics and do not minimize the merits to the Motherland. For the Eternal memory of the Hero I agree to 120%
      1. Andrey NM
        Andrey NM April 3 2016 19: 56
        +2
        Regarding the sign of the TRP. Now they are promoting the company on the TRP. It was stated that this will be taken into account when entering universities, etc. My son goes in for sports, master of sports. Last year, a boy from his team entered the university. In the selection committee, he provided documents that he is an athlete, a master of sports. He was told that if you were a world or European champion, then we would take into account, and even add 3 points for the TRP. And this boy is the world champion and winner of the 2015 World Cup to 18 years. Well, he added the same 3 points for the championship. Very equivalent. That's how we are interested in the development of sports. And when you consider that all this is mainly for the money of parents ...

        Sorry to be distracted again. To call fire on oneself is tremendous courage and devotion to one’s business, country. Life goes on. We must remember the heroes.
  • cyber
    cyber April 3 2016 13: 10
    +5
    To my surprise, an unexpectedly worthy article from a French journalist.
    One thing is clear - the feat of Alexander Prokhorenko cannot be slandered and denigrated even by the Western press, the maximum is that in their capabilities it is simply silent.
  • klop1
    klop1 April 3 2016 13: 11
    .
    But no one thought of just kneeling
    And to tell these boys that in a mediocre country
    Even bright feats are only steps
    Into the endless abyss to the inaccessible spring!
    1. black
      black April 3 2016 13: 22
      +21
      You, this, about a mediocre country and boys ... very in vain. He is not a boy, but an officer and did his job. I did it quite deliberately.
    2. Sarmat149
      Sarmat149 April 3 2016 13: 23
      +13
      Throw in defeatist moods wherever you go.
      1. klop1
        klop1 April 3 2016 13: 38
        .
        YOURSELF ASEAN, it will fit exactly
        1. valentber
          valentber April 3 2016 19: 07
          +1
          KLOP KLOP KLOP, what rhymes are over?
    3. V.ic
      V.ic April 3 2016 13: 37
      +16
      Quote: klop1
      inaccessible spring

      No, with a klopin mind, heroism cannot be understood
      You just "shaggy mouse" and "knock on the keyboard".
    4. Finches
      Finches April 3 2016 14: 08
      +7
      That's where such things like this klop1 come from ... ?????
      1. natakor1949
        natakor1949 April 3 2016 14: 51
        +6
        Judging by the photo, this bug just jumped from a palm tree, and therefore the corresponding thinking.
        1. klop1
          klop1 April 3 2016 15: 23
          .
          Where the moderators are looking at the RASIST website, immediately ban it.
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      3. klop1
        klop1 April 3 2016 15: 22
        .
        It was a check for lice, I congratulate you on it, now I see you are a real Putin and a faithful party. Hurray!
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets April 3 2016 18: 21
          +1
          Quote: klop1
          It was a check for lice,

          It was a test for patriotism, and you are right.
          Quote: klop1
          you passed it

          yes
      4. valentber
        valentber April 3 2016 19: 08
        +1
        This is discarded school material.
    5. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 3 2016 16: 27
      +5
      Quote: klop1
      Into the endless abyss to the inaccessible spring!

      This we have already passed — spring, the Orange Revolution, the Rose Revolution, Maidan, cookies from Nuland, 90s .....
      1. valentber
        valentber April 3 2016 19: 11
        0
        These howling lines are very much in the spirit of one of the smartest, oldest, most musical ... the very, very people on the planet. It has gone.
    6. valentber
      valentber April 3 2016 19: 07
      +1
      That's really klop!
  • olezenka1
    olezenka1 April 3 2016 13: 19
    +4
    How would we convey to the author Our opinion about his article? This is important for us and, I think, for him too .... Translate our comments for him (if he does not speak Russian and does not read VO) and, most importantly, that he receives them. ...
  • igorek4515
    igorek4515 April 3 2016 13: 22
    +3
    Courage is a very real thing, and not, as many people think, the poetry of Hollywood or the remnant of the Middle Ages.

    Beautiful words..! Thank you for your sympathy to the French comrade .. But to the guy who died heroically in battle, eternal memory and ... may he rest in peace .. As they always said in Russia .. He is a real hero ..! like him, Russia has always been proud ..
  • Yuri from Volgograd
    Yuri from Volgograd April 3 2016 13: 23
    +8
    The kingdom of heaven is war. Him and all our fallen soldiers.
  • morpogr
    morpogr April 3 2016 13: 23
    +4
    It is pleasant to read the article seeing that the author analyzes the actions of a particular person and country. Not engaging in politics, not acting according to double standards. But simply and in essence, paying tribute to courage, fortitude and fearlessness of the Russian warrior.
  • gergi
    gergi April 3 2016 13: 30
    +5
    Nice guy, honest open face. There are millions of them in Russia. In the crowd, they are invisible and modest, but God forbid hurt the sacred! Everlasting memory. Eternal respect.
  • Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev April 3 2016 13: 38
    +9
    Man born and raised in the new Russia.
    This is me to those who say that young people are a lost generation.

    P.S. it’s a pity that he died, it pleases that he left the child. Life has not just lived.
  • Bosk
    Bosk April 3 2016 13: 39
    +3
    In general, if not a big ... then a very significant part of the heroic deeds is the actions of a person in an inadequate state, but to provoke fire on yourself ... this is a conscious decision and the person knew what he was going to and he went to the end, well done guy, he did my work to the end, take off his hat in front of him!
  • nemec55
    nemec55 April 3 2016 13: 40
    +4
    The Frenchman is not important. Now it’s important how his parents and wife will live. Will there be state care for them so that the parents raising such a son do not need a banal (gas, water, housing) This is the most important thing. And the Frenchman will not feed and warm the family and tomorrow, if they cover him with comfort for printing his opuses, he will immediately write about evil Russians, although honestly there is a desire that everyone in the world would say RUSSIAN YOU A SUPER NATION we want to live in Russia
    A low bow to parents, the loss of a son is a disaster.
  • BOB044
    BOB044 April 3 2016 13: 51
    +9
    Quote: klop1
    YOURSELF ASEAN, it will fit exactly
    You have no time not to become like this Alexander Prokhorenko. By the fact that your soul. The soul was a jackal. Not your homeland, not your tribe. Dummy are you who.
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      1. BOB044
        BOB044 April 3 2016 15: 33
        +2
        You can only use klop1 with your mouth. Wafler ordinary.
        1. klop1
          klop1 April 3 2016 15: 45
          .
          I am a real MAN, just a MACHO and you are an extraordinary waffler.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 April 3 2016 16: 29
            +1
            Quote: klop1
            I'm a real MAN, just a MACHO

            Handsome, handsome, who argues. The first guy in his tribe
          2. BOB044
            BOB044 April 3 2016 16: 58
            +2
            I am a real MAN, just a MACHO and you are an extraordinary waffler.
            You are not a macho but a doggy fical. Degenerate fool
          3. gergi
            gergi April 3 2016 17: 27
            +4
            According to habits, the bug is not like a man, but a pimple onanist.
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets April 3 2016 18: 22
              +1
              Quote: gergi
              but on a pimple onanist.

              I think you hit the nail on the head.
            2. valentber
              valentber April 3 2016 19: 15
              +3
              No need to argue with such, just ignore. After all, he is a provocateur of unknown origin and geography.
  • darksoul
    darksoul April 3 2016 13: 56
    +1
    beautifully written
    1. klop1
      klop1 April 3 2016 15: 34
      .
      Thanks I was trying
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik April 3 2016 18: 56
        +3
        Quote: darksoul
        beautifully written

        Quote: klop1
        Thanks I was trying

        The top quote is not for bed bugs. With such a little mind, one cannot understand this.
  • lukke
    lukke April 3 2016 13: 57
    +4
    Bravo Charles! The article is written excellently: briefly, succinctly, with self-irony and an appropriate sense of humor on a serious topic! It's nice to read the professionals, not the dumb Washington Post agitators.

    P.S. My forecast for the next 6 months. - I’m sure soon some American director will shoot an action movie with the American hero JI Ay on this topic naturally and it’s good if it will be Oliver Stone (a former participant in the war himself), but I think they’ll do some patriotic pathos shooter in the style of Save Private Raina).
  • pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 April 3 2016 14: 06
    +1
    Wow, it’s not all in the west that’s sold a conscience. belay
  • Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 April 3 2016 14: 12
    +5
    I really liked the photo that the author put to the article. Without pathos. Just army everyday life, without any embellishment.
  • Gorodovik
    Gorodovik April 3 2016 14: 27
    .
    Sorry for the guy. Especially sorry relatives.
    But I have these questions. Of course I don’t understand much. But why did he hang out for one week and why wasn’t he provided with evacuation and cover at the same time? And if not one then where did the rest go? And further. Why was the method used even in the Second World War when there are unmanned aerial vehicles and there are satellites at the Khuyda end.
    I do not reject the feat of a soldier. But in my opinion, life is more important than any feats.
    1. vanavatny
      vanavatny April 3 2016 14: 57
      +7
      you do not understand much
      1. Gorodovik
        Gorodovik April 3 2016 17: 35
        -3
        Then be so kind as to why he was without cover and timely evacuation7
        You know. Here I often see how armies of different countries are judged only by how they showed themselves during the Second World War, although more than 70 years have passed. But no one judges our army by the way it fought in the first Cheshenskaya. It is right. After all, the time was different then. And the situation. As in the years of the Second World War. But this does not stop anyone. For me personally, this story now reminds of the sixth company. Just reminds. I understand that a lot is unknown, but in my opinion this article is a good mine for a bad game.
        There is no need to say that I'm trying to leave this guy, let the earth rest in peace for him. I’m sure that a maximum of 20 people will read my comment. The fact is that I wonder why he was there alone. and please answer me this question. Dear experts, please be so kind.
        1. Aqela
          Aqela April 5 2016 10: 26
          +1
          I do not think that he was there alone. I wrote a comment about this below. 100% was a cover group. Why didn’t they say about them? Because reporting to the public for one deceased is not difficult, but reporting to a special forces lieutenant with a cover group of 15 to 40 people is much more difficult ...
    2. Victorio
      Victorio April 3 2016 18: 32
      +2
      Quote: Cityman
      Sorry for the guy. Especially sorry relatives.
      But I have these questions. Of course I don’t understand much. But why did he hang out for one week and why wasn’t he provided with evacuation and cover at the same time? And if not one then where did the rest go? And further. Why was the method used even in the Second World War when there are unmanned aerial vehicles and there are satellites at the Khuyda end.
      I do not reject the feat of a soldier. But in my opinion, life is more important than any feats.

      ===
      from the available information he was not alone, and could not be alone
      1. Gorodovik
        Gorodovik April 3 2016 21: 14
        +2
        Then where were all the others7 Where are they7
        From the available information, I really did not understand anything. Only that he was surrounded and he asked to call fire but himself. No more. If you drop something in more detail, I will be grateful. But the point is why he is alone or where the rest were and why evacuation is not provided. After all, he was there for a long time.
        I'm sorry sincerely. After all, in fact, it doesn’t matter when young guys who are full of strength die. And I am tormented by the question why everything turned out that way7 And since it turned out it was necessary so that this would not happen in the future
    3. Kos_kalinki9
      Kos_kalinki9 April 3 2016 18: 33
      0
      The word is what TUSIL. You didn’t confuse the night club with the assignment for an hour ????
      1. Gorodovik
        Gorodovik April 3 2016 21: 16
        +1
        You will cling to my jargon or essentially 7 You know here people write criminal jargon and nothing. And because of this word, you weren’t too lazy to write. But I’ll ask if you want to hurt me. Or just put a minus. Do not waste your energy on meaningless comments.
  • Genals
    Genals April 3 2016 14: 32
    +1
    He deserves the title of Hero! Since the fact of death was made public, then there should not be a secret Decree?
  • Haloperidol
    Haloperidol April 3 2016 14: 35
    +4
    The French are now crushing, there is not even a trace of the honor of the famous musketeers in them. While Russia is at war and its soldiers are shedding blood, destroying frostbitten Islamic terrorists, France "sits on the stove" and "puts a spoke in the wheels" of Russia with its sanctions, like a prostitute, following Washington's lead.
    1. lukke
      lukke April 3 2016 15: 57
      +6
      Now the Frenchmen are crushed, there is no trace of the honor of the famous musketeers in them
      well, let’s say the famous musketeers were not all right with logic either - to run and wet their compatriots-guards for the interests of their harlot queen as opposed to their legitimate king - is tantamount to treason to the Motherland) At the same time she was fornication with the mortal enemy of France - the English duke!
      And under Napoleon all their French Europeanism came out when they behaved like barbarians in our temples and with the local population. So the paddling pools are the paddling pools and there is no need to demand anything more from them. They dragged on the war with Hitler, and then the daredevils broke away for their cowardice and defeat on their women.
      1. Haloperidol
        Haloperidol April 3 2016 17: 07
        +1
        I agree with you, so the video clip will tell me better about French politics and France.
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  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 3 2016 14: 40
    0
    The terrorists have a real enemy, whose soldiers are ready to kill and die, and even die, if they can take more opponents with them.

    Hired terrorists simply will not want to fight such an enemy ...
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec April 3 2016 14: 47
    +2
    This guy is an indicator of Russian courage and unbending will. His bright memory and low bow.
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 3 2016 15: 00
    +1
    Let Pin .. Dossia and the West know that the Russian soldier has Conscience and Honor .. And if life forces us to choose, then He will die with the name of his Country ..
  • maai
    maai April 3 2016 15: 03
    +1
    Quote: pilot8878
    Muscovites are often disliked for a certain snobbery and arrogance,

    This, my dear, is usually the so-called newly minted "Muscovites". In Soviet times, there was a special word for them. Yes, there is still a useful proverb - "Where I was born there and fit." ;)
  • natakor1949
    natakor1949 April 3 2016 15: 04
    +5
    This boy knew that death would inevitably await him, and in order not to fall into the clutches of brainless, cruel fanatics, he decided to leave with honor, reducing the number of these nonhumans. Bright memory to him! For parents, of course, this is an irreplaceable grief, but a low bow to them for raising such a son.
  • garnik64
    garnik64 April 3 2016 15: 12
    +3
    The officer, fighter, warrior made his feat respect the people whom he represents.
  • Nehist
    Nehist April 3 2016 15: 17
    -6
    The heroism of some is a crime of others !!! Alas, that was at all times. Failure to finalize the operations command always leads to heroism from without source. How long will this continue? :(
    1. BOB044
      BOB044 April 3 2016 17: 02
      +1
      On this ensign did not rise further. Do not shame the form.
      1. Nehist
        Nehist April 3 2016 19: 25
        0
        Go forest! Not for you to teach me. How many such Heroes? Millions in the history of the sun. And why? Because someone who was standing higher did not think through to the end how the operation could turn.
  • sounddoc
    sounddoc April 3 2016 15: 52
    +10
    Quote: klop1
    YOURSELF ASEAN, it will fit exactly

    Classics of the genre: "Small bug, but smelly")))))
  • bionik
    bionik April 3 2016 16: 13
    +1
    ... a curious contrast with France, where the death of a soldier sent to the hottest spots on the planet receives only a brief mention in the newspapers ...In hot spots, they mainly serve guys from a foreign legion. In essence, this is rabble from all over the world, and not from France (After four years of service, it is possible to apply for French citizenship). So, they don’t write about the French military in MASS MEDIA.
    1. zennon
      zennon April 3 2016 16: 25
      0
      Quote: bionik
      In hot spots, they mainly serve guys from a foreign legion. In essence, this is rabble from all over the world, and not from France (After four years of service, you have the opportunity to apply for French citizenship.).

      Moreover, they will write out documents for any name that you name. Representatives of the legion take third place in France from the end in the rankings table in France. The last are blacks and Arabs. In front of them, p. .tk.i.Well and one step higher, the legion ...
    2. saygon66
      saygon66 April 4 2016 21: 44
      0
      - Choi "rabble"? Do you have friends from the Legion? There have been "tsat" years since they do not take criminals, mentally retarded, as well as those who in the past were associated with the special services ... French citizenship will be received only by those who were injured while participating in the database ... This is in the 60s and before everyone rowed ... there was a natural decline in the Legion ... There were only a couple of officer vacancies a year ... And what is not covered in the press - so for that the Legion was originally conceived ... to save the French ... to die unknown for France - they have such a trick!
  • boroda64
    boroda64 April 3 2016 16: 30
    +1
    .....
    in such cases
    - always ask yourself a question
    - and I could .. ???
    1. Winter cherry
      Winter cherry April 4 2016 10: 29
      0
      It is useless to ask such a question. First you have to be there, in its place. A feat is a rush of the soul at any given moment. Follow your reaction to various events in civilian life, how do you react?
  • Shustov
    Shustov April 3 2016 16: 50
    .
    He died heroically, he rest in peace !!! So that Vasilieva would continue to steal from people like him, that Romodanovsky and his FMS patrimony would rob the godless refugees in order to ensure a quiet and quiet old age for the workers of the Federal Drug Control Service who are still killing our guys but already at home.
    1. awg75
      awg75 April 3 2016 17: 05
      +8
      Excuse you Shustov. You dance on the bones. You are a pitiful little man. This guy died for the MOTHERLAND, but you hardly know this concept.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 3 2016 17: 26
      0
      Powerful you nonsense.
    3. Dimitr
      Dimitr April 4 2016 21: 45
      0
      Quote: Shustov
      He died heroically, he rest in peace !!! So that Vasilieva would continue to steal from people like him, that Romodanovsky and his FMS patrimony would rob the godless refugees in order to ensure a quiet and quiet old age for the workers of the Federal Drug Control Service who are still killing our guys but already at home.

      Why did you only touch on the FMS and the Federal Drug Control Service? It looks like a problem with citizenship and drugs? Can you tell us about your heroic deeds in the field of combating the arbitrariness of the authorities? What have you donated? Only I think you are a kitchen hero. But in reality, a cowardly, indifferent creature. Guy, a real RUSSIAN OFFICER! A real professional who calculated the consequences for himself personally and for the country as a whole, to which he took the oath! And such "shit" as you are full, you can only complain, the whole zomboyaschik under the very frame is crammed with such!
  • awg75
    awg75 April 3 2016 17: 03
    +1
    Eternal memory to you. You are forever HERO OF RUSSIA.
  • Shustov
    Shustov April 3 2016 17: 42
    .
    Quote: awg75
    Excuse you Shustov. You dance on the bones. You are a pitiful little man. This guy died for the MOTHERLAND, but you hardly know this concept.

    Are you probably from the above scum?
    1. Winter cherry
      Winter cherry April 4 2016 10: 24
      +3
      Shustov, you have beguiled the Homeland with a trough. Sasha Prokhorenko saw this difference well. Eternal memory to him.
  • Shustov
    Shustov April 3 2016 17: 48
    -3
    Quote: Vadim237
    Powerful you nonsense.

    Do you understand Vadim? Is there any experience?
    1. black
      black April 3 2016 19: 53
      +1
      You are a young man who raised When is Uncle Vasya's neighbor, when is nobody? Did you carry the same nonsense at the wake?