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Intense fighting takes place in the conflict zone in Nagorno-Karabakh

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Disturbing news come from Nagorno-Karabakh. With new force in the region, fighting broke out between the parties to the protracted conflict. The press service of the main military department of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic reports that Azerbaijani forces on the night of April 2 took offensive actions in several directions at once (southern, southeastern and northeastern).


Interfax referring to sources in the NKR Ministry of Defense reports that the Azerbaijani army used artillery and Aviation. A source in the Armenian Ministry of Defense reports that one of the helicopters of the Azerbaijani Air Force was shot down. Baku denies the information about the downed helicopter.

From a note by the press secretary of the Armenian Ministry of Defense on Facebook Artsrun Hovhannisyan:
Azerbaijan launched an open attack, along the entire length of the border with Nagorno-Karabakh, there are fights.


Intense fighting takes place in the conflict zone in Nagorno-Karabakh


Armenian sources write that the Azerbaijani soldiers made an attempt to strike also those military units that are in the rear.

Intensive armed clashes in the Nagorno-Karabakh region are also reported by the Azerbaijani media, citing the country's main military department. The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reports that battles are taking place in the Tartar and Agdam directions. During the battle used mortars, artillery and small weapon. At the same time, it is reported that the Armenian troops are launching artillery strikes on the frontline Azerbaijani settlements. There are victims and destruction.

From the message on the official website MO of Azerbaijan:
On the night of April 2, Armenian troops carried out a number of sabotage operations in the frontline zone. Fire was opened from various types of weapons, including rocket launchers and mortars. We put at risk the lives of people inhabiting the border villages. To prevent the intensification of military operations from the Armenian side, the command of the army of Azerbaijan assessed the situation, and on the basis of this, an immediate response was given.


The exact death toll at this time is not reported.

As you can see, the messages about who actually provoked another round of armed conflict, differ exactly in the opposite direction. It remains to hope that reason will prevail, and the authorities of both Armenia and Azerbaijan will stop the fighting, which can lead to disastrous consequences for the entire region.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr April 2 2016 10: 03
    +84
    Has spring aggravation begun? The next stage in the Donbass? The Americans brought their sixes to a new war on the outskirts of the Russian Federation.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 April 2 2016 10: 04
      +97
      Or maybe Turkey stirs up water? Isn’t she doing the job of provocation on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan? Turkey realizes its threat?
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 2 2016 10: 06
        +32
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Has spring aggravation begun?

        Seem to be...
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Or maybe Turkey stirs up water?

        I think that it definitely could not have done without it ...
        1. hrych
          hrych April 2 2016 10: 21
          +63
          Azerbaijan is apparently living out its measured period. Like any artificially created formation. Yes, actually military affairs is not to sell tomatoes.

          Preliminary caresses and went to the bedchamber ...
          1. Boz_canavar
            Boz_canavar April 2 2016 10: 28
            -91%
            drink you urgently need to quit laughing
            1. hrych
              hrych April 2 2016 10: 39
              +70
              I don’t drink, it’s time for someone with hash to finish - this is a fact ...
              1. Semen Semyonitch
                Semen Semyonitch April 2 2016 11: 22
                +13
                Quote: hrych
                here it’s time for someone with hash to finish - this is a fact.

                Secretary of State Expresses US Concern Over Ceasefire Violation on Contact Line ... (REGNUM)
                Who will translate this statement into a normal, widely understood political language? laughing
                1. Yuyuka
                  Yuyuka April 2 2016 14: 48
                  +4
                  Secretary of State Expresses US Concern Over Ceasefire Violation on Contact Line ... (REGNUM)
                  Who will translate this statement into a normal, widely understood political language?


                  translation -
                  Something bothers me Honduras ... And you do not rub him (s) The second part is the answer of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs repeat
                  1. sherp2015
                    sherp2015 April 2 2016 16: 05
                    +4
                    Quote: Yuyuka
                    Secretary of State Expresses US Concern Over Ceasefire Violation on Contact Line ... (REGNUM)
                    Who will translate this statement into a normal, widely understood political language?


                    Someone wants to drag Russia into this conflict
                    1. Mahmut
                      Mahmut April 2 2016 17: 52
                      +6
                      Yes, there is no spring aggravation. Just a generational change. Those who "got" their own have retired by age. In their place came young, greyhounds, unbeaten. While unbroken.
                      1. Mikhalych 70
                        Mikhalych 70 April 2 2016 22: 32
                        +2
                        From experience. Pidorgi both sides. Arrived from everywhere.
                    2. cap
                      cap April 2 2016 19: 24
                      +1
                      Quote: sherp2015
                      Quote: Yuyuka
                      Secretary of State Expresses US Concern Over Ceasefire Violation on Contact Line ... (REGNUM)
                      Who will translate this statement into a normal, widely understood political language?


                      Someone wants to drag Russia into this conflict



                      Someone wants to drag Russia into this conflict
                      Essentially ...!
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                2. NordUral
                  NordUral April 2 2016 19: 47
                  +2
                  Russia again incites Armenia to war. What else can they say in the State Department.
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir April 2 2016 14: 42
              +1
              Quote: Boz_Canavar
              drink you urgently need to quit

              and what is he wrong about, you can tell how many years to INDEPENDENT Azerbaijan
              1. Seal
                Seal April 2 2016 23: 38
                +5
                how old is INDEPENDENT Azerbaijan
                Exactly as much as independent Armenia. And independent Georgia. These three republics are no different from each other.
          2. Imperialkolorad
            Imperialkolorad April 2 2016 11: 04
            +34
            Quote: hrych
            Azerbaijan is apparently living out its measured period. Like any artificially created formation. Yes, actually military affairs is not to sell tomatoes.

            Not for nothing in Soviet times, Armenians were considered capable of military affairs, and Azerbaijanis were not. the legitimacy of this opinion was shown by the Karabakh conflict.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal April 2 2016 15: 08
              -21%
              Quote: ImperialKolorad
              Quote: hrych
              Azerbaijan is apparently living out its measured period. Like any artificially created formation. Yes, actually military affairs is not to sell tomatoes.

              Not for nothing in Soviet times, Armenians were considered capable of military affairs, and Azerbaijanis were not. the legitimacy of this opinion was shown by the Karabakh conflict.
              - Are you sure that the Armenians acted in Karabakh on their own? Or were the professionals acting in the hands of the Armenians, whose handwriting we distinctly saw in Izvarino, Debaltseve and recently in Palmyra? The handwriting is clearly one, and it looks like Amer. Or I'm wrong?
              1. Koldunja
                Koldunja April 2 2016 15: 33
                +15
                And I see the same handwriting as on Mayidan. And it also looks a lot like handwriting from Libya and Iraq. And if you look closely at the spelling of the word "concern", you get a spilled Yugoslavia ...
              2. Imperialkolorad
                Imperialkolorad April 2 2016 15: 39
                +11
                Please specify your thoughts more specifically. Yes, our vacationers helped the Donbass near Izvarino and Debaltseve, again, our military experts advised the Syrians in Palmyra. the Americans have nothing to do with, their handwriting is rather the destruction of infrastructure.
                1. aksakal
                  aksakal April 2 2016 18: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: ImperialKolorad
                  Please specify your thoughts more specifically. Yes, our vacationers helped the Donbass near Izvarino and Debaltseve, again, our military experts advised the Syrians in Palmyra. the Americans have nothing to do with, their handwriting is rather the destruction of infrastructure.

                  Quote: Koldunja
                  And I see the same handwriting as on Mayidan. And it also looks a lot like handwriting from Libya and Iraq. And if you look closely at the spelling of the word "concern", you get a spilled Yugoslavia ...
                  - Oppanki, for sure, Amer style in Libya and Iraq.
                  It’s clear that they have pushed me to cons, with understanding sarcasm you are very ill, you have to speak directly and directly. So here are the words:
                  Quote: ImperialKolorad
                  Not in vain during the Soviet era Armenians were considered capable of military affairs
                  - I directly answer - these are not more capable Armenians, they were helped by military specialists from Russia. The best proof of this is the so-called. Terter's operation looks a lot like Izvarino-Debaltsevo-Palmyra.
                  If the Armenians planned the Terter operation, then the Armenians planned the Izvarino-Debaltsevo-Palmyra. But in Ukraine, I know only one Armenian, and even he does not paint his people at all wink
                  1. garnik64
                    garnik64 April 2 2016 23: 52
                    +1
                    The terter operation was not completed unfortunately. The Kremlin stopped, at the request of Aliyev.
                  2. Imperialkolorad
                    Imperialkolorad April 3 2016 08: 43
                    0
                    Quote: aksakal
                    It’s clear that they have pushed me to cons, with understanding sarcasm you are very ill, you have to speak directly and directly.

                    Well, call here so many stubborn dill grazes that dull the perception of sarcasm. There are many people who would consider your words to be true.
                    Quote: aksakal
                    - I directly answer - these are not more capable Armenians, they were helped by military specialists from Russia.

                    I don’t understand the varieties of modern Armenians, but I’ll name Bakhramyan from the past, nothing comes of the Azerbaijanis. And in occasion of counting or not counting someone capable of a military path. In the USSR, they did not give large shoulder straps to the Chechens. Ball is one general. Think who he is? That's right, Dudaev.
              3. sgazeev
                sgazeev April 2 2016 17: 09
                +4
                Quote: aksakal
                Quote: ImperialKolorad
                Quote: hrych
                Azerbaijan is apparently living out its measured period. Like any artificially created formation. Yes, actually military affairs is not to sell tomatoes.

                Not for nothing in Soviet times, Armenians were considered capable of military affairs, and Azerbaijanis were not. the legitimacy of this opinion was shown by the Karabakh conflict.
                - Are you sure that the Armenians acted in Karabakh on their own? Or were the professionals acting in the hands of the Armenians, whose handwriting we distinctly saw in Izvarino, Debaltseve and recently in Palmyra? The handwriting is clearly one, and it looks like Amer. Or I'm wrong?

                I doubt that the Armenians in conjunction with the Pendos, rather ayzers, they were the first to start.
                1. Barnaul, Altai
                  Barnaul, Altai April 2 2016 21: 14
                  0
                  well you are a cap!
                  I even minusanul.
                  You tell such things obvious to children in the morning, do not litter the air!
                2. Seal
                  Seal April 2 2016 23: 50
                  +1
                  I doubt that the Armenians in conjunction with the Pendos, rather ayzers, they were the first to start.
                  In vain doubt.
                  From the report on lobbying in the USA for 2014.
                  In total, in 2014 more than $ 5 billion was spent on lobbying in America. So, Congress took 2,1 billion from lobbyists, and the US Chamber of Commerce received $ 170 million. The five leading companies that spent the largest amount of funds on foreign policy lobbying included: Squire Patton Boggs ($ 17), Akin, Gump et al ($ 755), Podesta Group ($ 000), Brownstein , Hyatt et al ($ 17), and Holland & Knight ($ 150). The US-Israel Social Affairs Group has maintained a leading position. The Israeli lobby has obtained from Congress not only an increase in external allocations amid a general budget cut, but also the allocation of $ 000 million to improve the Iron Dome missile defense systems.

                  The second line is still kept by the Armenian National Committee of America, which, compared to last year, has noticeably increased. So, in the group of Armenian affairs of the Congress today are 113 legislators against 92 in 2013. Besides, members of the Armenian caucus are the chairmen of the following committees:
                  for international affairs (House of Representatives and Senate),
                  on external appropriations (House of Representatives and Senate)
                  and leader of the Senate Democratic Majority.

                  The Armenian lobby managed to maintain the allocation by the US government of free financial assistance to Armenia and the NKR, lobby for the adoption by the state of California of a resolution recognizing the independence of the NKR, as well as the adoption by the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs of the "Act in support of justice on the Armenian Genocide" and the "Return of Christian Confiscated Christian Turkey shrines. "


                  The problem for the Armenians is that Azerbaijan is now very good friends with Israel. And the Israeli lobby is almost twice as strong as the Armenian one!

                  Armenia therefore still officially refuses to recognize that Crimea is Russia, because it is afraid that the United States will excommunicate it from its feeding trough.
              4. kryuger.mark
                kryuger.mark April 2 2016 18: 19
                +6
                It will go further along the rolled-up one. Aber.Media will report on a massive invasion of the Altai armored militia, the Pskov paratroopers, from those that the former brothers Ukrainians did not finish off, well, etc., in the same vein.
              5. pilot8878
                pilot8878 April 2 2016 22: 03
                +4
                Quote: aksakal
                - Are you sure that the Armenians acted in Karabakh on their own? Or were the professionals acting in the hands of the Armenians, whose handwriting we distinctly saw in Izvarino, Debaltseve and recently in Palmyra? The handwriting is clearly one, and it looks like Amer. Or I'm wrong?

                In 1991, professionals from the same military schools fought on both sides. But the respective nations prevailed.
                And now the "professionals" from Durtia and the State Department are instigating on the one hand the 102nd military base of the RF Armed Forces, located in Armenia. But neither the one nor the other take part in the database. For now, perhaps.
              6. Seal
                Seal April 2 2016 23: 47
                0
                The handwriting is clearly one, and it looks like Amer. Or I'm wrong?

                Most likely you are mistaken. It’s one thing - the Americans are providing financial support to Karabakh. And the perfect other is what you assumed. And the States of Karabakh is fed well.
                From the report on lobbying in the USA for 2014.
                In total, in 2014 more than $ 5 billion was spent on lobbying in America. So, Congress took 2,1 billion from lobbyists, and the US Chamber of Commerce received $ 170 million. The five leading companies that spent the largest amount of funds on foreign policy lobbying included: Squire Patton Boggs ($ 17), Akin, Gump et al ($ 755), Podesta Group ($ 000), Brownstein , Hyatt et al ($ 17), and Holland & Knight ($ 150). The US-Israel Social Affairs Group has maintained a leading position. The Israeli lobby has obtained from Congress not only an increase in external allocations amid a general budget cut, but also the allocation of $ 000 million to improve the Iron Dome missile defense systems.

                The second line is still kept by the Armenian National Committee of America, which, compared to last year, has noticeably increased. So, Today, 113 lawmakers are members of the Congressional Armenian Affairs Group versus 92 in 2013. In addition, members of the Armenian caucus are the chairmen of the following committees:
                for international affairs (House of Representatives and Senate),
                for external appropriations (House of Representatives and Senate)
                и Senate Democratic Majority Leader.
                Armenian lobby has managed to maintain the allocation by the US government of free financial assistance to Armenia and NKR
                lobby the adoption by the state of California of a resolution recognizing the independence of the NKR, as well as the adoption by the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs of the "Act in support of justice on the Armenian Genocide" and the "Act on the Return of Christian Shrines Confiscated by Turkey."


                The problem for the Armenians is that Azerbaijan is now very good friends with Israel. And the Israeli lobby is almost twice as strong as the Armenian one!

                Armenia therefore still officially refuses to recognize that Crimea is Russia, because it is afraid that the United States will excommunicate it from its feeding trough.
              7. 72jora72
                72jora72 April 3 2016 05: 54
                +2
                Or professionals acted at the hands of the Armenians,
                And who acted with the hands of the Azerbaijanis? And there were no American and Turkish advisers and instructors, and the "Gray Wolves" were not there? and Russian and Ukrainian pilots fought on both sides in almost equal proportions.

                But in Ukraine I know only one Armenian, and even he doesn’t paint his people at all wink
                In 14g in the Donbass, I met in the militia both Armenians and Azerbaijanis, normal men who know how to fight .... and there weren’t any chicks among themselves.
            2. sgazeev
              sgazeev April 2 2016 17: 06
              +2
              Quote: ImperialKolorad
              Quote: hrych
              Azerbaijan is apparently living out its measured period. Like any artificially created formation. Yes, actually military affairs is not to sell tomatoes.

              Not for nothing in Soviet times, Armenians were considered capable of military affairs, and Azerbaijanis were not. the legitimacy of this opinion was shown by the Karabakh conflict.

              100500
            3. Andrew 447
              Andrew 447 April 2 2016 21: 49
              +1
              [/ quote] Not for nothing in Soviet times, the Armenians were considered capable of military affairs, and the Azerbaijanis were not. the legitimacy of this opinion was shown by the Karabakh conflict. [/ quote]
              There were many Azerbaijanian officers in the tactical level of the platoon-battalion with a high level of professionalism (personal experience), including across the river. But the operational planning and strategy in the Azerbaijani army is a disaster, it catches the eye according to the results in Karabakh.
          3. fif21
            fif21 April 2 2016 11: 20
            +18
            Quote: hrych
            Preliminary caresses and went to the bedchamber ...
            Aliev caressed wassat Although our recently, too, had a friendship with Erdogan. The collapse of the USSR will burp us more than once. And the policy of Russia in this matter is not intelligible, so the Azerbaijanis are looking for an ally in the person of Turkey.
            1. sufix
              sufix April 2 2016 15: 36
              +3
              Quote: fif21
              Although our recently, too, had a friendship with Erdogan.

              And what did you gentlemen expect. Turkey is practically a neighbor of Azerbaijan, which, together with the Americans, has been successfully promoting its business and investment in the economy of Azerbaijan over the past 20 years. Georgia and Azerbaijan for Americans and Turks give access to Caspian oil and the method of its transportation. In addition, Azerbaijan really has no geopolitical ambitions, and the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict is an unplayed card in the hands of the American vassal. So the money is pouring into them.
              Won't they bite a nursing hand?
              Russia of course offers a vehicle, but in fact it is not bad for them. The only risk in my opinion is to become a bargaining chip in the big geopolitical game between Russia and the West. However, there are risks everywhere.
            2. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky April 2 2016 17: 33
              +5
              Quote: fif21
              The collapse of the USSR will burp us more than once. And the policy of Russia in this matter is not intelligible, so the Azerbaijanis are looking for an ally in the person of Turkey.

              The collapse of the USSR will regurgitate not only us. The whole mess in the world is the consequences of the collapse of the USSR. Under him, mattresses still could not so freely introduce "democracy" around the world. I do not know what kind of ally Turkey is for Azerbaijan, but the fact that excessive rapprochement with Ankara in the absence of a common border will turn out sideways for Baku.
              At one time, Baku drew maps on which he cut a part of Northern Iran and for sure Iran did not forget about these pranks. As if Azerbaijan did not have to share its southern territories.
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          5. larand
            larand April 2 2016 11: 22
            +30
            Quote: hrych
            Azerbaijan is apparently living out its measured period.

            The feeling that all of humanity is crazy. Maybe the universal mind decided to stop useless experiments on creating something reasonable on the planet and began to wash test tubes with biomass?
          6. Baikonur
            Baikonur April 2 2016 11: 23
            +10
            Quote: hrych
            Preliminary caresses and went to the bedchamber ...

            Quote: svp67
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Or maybe Turkey stirs up water?

            I think that it definitely could not have done without it ...
            x / f "the last thing cooked" - Erdogan. The last Secret mission is to stir up the Karabakh! Before retiring to a well-deserved retirement. The ears of the jackal are still visible!
            I have already said that they will now nightmare Central Asia. Near the borders of Russia. Karabakh is the beginning. Uzbekistan-Kyrgyzstan is next in line (also, by the way, reconnaissance and preparation is already in full swing)
            1. hrych
              hrych April 2 2016 11: 32
              +6
              The funny thing is that Armenia does not border with the Russian Federation, but it was Syria that connected us with Iran, it became our secret, as in the song ... Supply if what happens through the Caspian and Iran, and taking into account our specialists will again be like Debaltsevsky, Palmyra and for example the Ganja cauldron. After all, war does not mean victory, someone will be defeated.
              1. garnik64
                garnik64 April 2 2016 12: 38
                +4
                The Armenian Ganzak (Ganja, Kirovabad) should be freed. Then the oil and gas pipelines will be under the control of Armenia, and therefore Russia. The borders will be common with Russia. They need a corridor through Fizuli, Jabrail and Kafan, connecting the territories of Azerbaijan and Nakhichevan, they will fulfill the dream of the Turks. .... from Constantinople to Astana. This is a minimum program for the Turks. For this purpose they have been going on since the beginning of the 20th century.
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz April 2 2016 13: 23
                  +7
                  Quote: garnik64
                  Armenian Ganzak (Ganja, Kirovabad) should be released.

                  Ganja became Armenian)))
                  As the appetite increases when the back of a large Russian bear)))
                  1. garnik64
                    garnik64 April 2 2016 13: 53
                    -4
                    Ganzak, ask the Persians. You were not here, how do you know.
                    1. Yeraz
                      Yeraz April 2 2016 14: 15
                      +1
                      Quote: garnik64
                      Ganzak, ask the Persians. You were not here, how do you know.

                      Well, personally, my relatives were in the Iravan khanate where the tsar moved you))) And what Putin said about you in the forehead smiling)))
                      1. andj61
                        andj61 April 2 2016 15: 10
                        +13
                        Quote: Yeraz
                        Quote: garnik64
                        Ganzak, ask the Persians. You were not here, how do you know.

                        Well, personally, my relatives were in the Iravan khanate where the tsar moved you))) And what Putin said about you in the forehead smiling)))

                        It's useless to argue about history. The Armenians lived here for a very long time, and the confrontation between Iran and Turan (and this is the name, including Azerbaijan, they called) is described in the Persian epic "Shah-name". The resettlement of the people for tens of kilometers back and forth does not matter much. And the Armenians moved from the so-called. "Turkish" Armenia, and Azerbaijanis - including those from "Iranian" Azerbaijan. Both peoples have lived here for a very long time - it is necessary and even necessary to negotiate!
                      2. ultra
                        ultra April 2 2016 16: 50
                        +3
                        Quote: andj61
                        Armenians lived here a very long time

                        Absolutely, proto-Armenian tribes lived there before the emergence of the state of Urartu, and this is the 8-10th century BC.
                      3. Seal
                        Seal April 3 2016 00: 08
                        +1
                        Absolutely, proto-Armenian tribes lived there before the emergence of the state of Urartu, and this is the 8-10th century BC.

                        At that time, it was not Proto-Armenians who lived there, but Hurrians. The descendants of the Hurrians are Kurds.
                        Strabo "Geography":
                        "12. The ancient history of this nation is approximately the following. As I said, Armen from the Thessalian city of Armenia, located between Fera and Larissa on Lake Beba, went on a campaign to Armenia with Jason. Kirsil from Farsal and Media from Larissa, participants in Alexander's campaign, claim that Armenia received its name from him. Part of Armen's companions settled in Akilisen (which in former times was subject to the Sofenes), while others - in Sispiritis up to Kalachena and Adiabena behind the Armenian mountains (in Asia Minor - R.G.) It is further said that the clothes of the Armenians are Thessalian; for example, long tunics, called Thessalian in the tragedies, tied with a belt around the chest, and outer clothing with fasteners ... "
                        "Armen came from Armenia - one of the cities near Lake Bebeida, between Feram and Larisa. Armen’s satellites occupied the regions of Akilisenu and Sispiritida up to Kalahana and Adiabena, and he even left Armenia of the same name with him." (Strabo. "Geography", XI part, p. 503)

                        XNUMXrd Century Roman Historian Marc Justian Justin also noted that Armen was from the city of Armenia in Thessaly (near Lake Bebeida) and was the founder of Armenia. And on the northeastern coast of the Aegean was the region of Thrace, which became the next camp for the Armenians, who, having got here, further settled in Phrygia in Asia Minor. Then the Armenians settled inland Asia Minor - south of Lake Van and at the source of the Euphrates - that is, at the junction of the borders of modern Turkey, Syria and Iraq. It is this route Thessaly-Thrace-Phrygia and further to the Euphrates River and the south of Lake Van that ancient authors have shown as a way of nomadizing Armenians.
                        А according to the "father of history" HerodotusPhrygia was located next to another historical area - Cappadocia. At the time of Herodotus (XNUMXth century BC), the ancestors of the Armenians lived "above the Assyrians", up the Euphrates - the river that, according to the historian, separated Armenia from Cilicia. He specially noted that the Armenians came to their country from the West. Herodotus also pointed out that the Armenians are the descendants of the Phrygians.
                        А Strabo (I BC - I AD) writes about the new Armenia in Asia Minor, where the Armenians moved from the Balkans: "Araks (Araz - R.G.) flows through Armenia, and Kir (Kura - R.G.) - through Iberia and Albania ..." "The largest of them Cyrus. It originates in Armenia ... ".
                        The fact that the ancestral home of Armenians is located outside the South Caucasus and even Asia Minor outstanding Russian scientist I.M.Dyakonov... Based on the linguistic analysis of the ancient Armenian language, "it is revealed, first of all, that it is Indo-European ...". Then Dyakonov states: "since the ancient Armenian language is not related to the languages ​​of the autochthonous of the Armenian Highlands - Hurrians, Urarts, it is clear that it was brought here from outside." The famous Armenist G.A. Kapantsyan came to similar conclusions in a special study on the "pre-Caucasian homeland" of the Armenians, who believed that the Armenians should be confined mainly to the space between the upper reaches of the Euphrates (Kara-su), Chorokh and Araks ", where they moved from Balkan (Thessaly).

                        Based on the above, it can be stated that the Armenians are not the autochthons of Asia Minor, especially the South Caucasus.
                    2. Seal
                      Seal April 2 2016 23: 56
                      0
                      And the Armenians moved from the so-called. "Turkish" Armenia, and Azerbaijanis - including those from "Iranian" Azerbaijan. Both peoples have lived here for a very long time - it is necessary and even necessary to negotiate!

                      Yes, they never agree. Therefore, if they are destined to fight, then let this happen as soon as possible. Better to start a fight now, before they both got serious, or even, God forbid, nuclear weapons.
                  2. garnik64
                    garnik64 April 2 2016 16: 20
                    0
                    My wife from Baku does not mean that he is Armenian.
                  3. ultra
                    ultra April 2 2016 16: 48
                    +4
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    Iravan khanate where the king moved you

                    Armenian tribes inhabited this territory long before the arrival of Turkic tribes in the South Caucasus. Learn the history.
                  4. andj61
                    andj61 April 2 2016 17: 13
                    +3
                    Quote: ultra
                    Armenian tribes inhabited this territory long before the arrival of Turkic tribes in the South Caucasus. Learn the history.

                    Still, the main territory of Armenia was to the south: Lake Van ,, Ararat, Erzurum, and further to Trebizond. And Armenia expanded to the southwest; in the direction of the present Antalya-Alania, Iskanderun, Aleppo. Cilician Armenia was there in the Middle Ages. In the territory of modern Azerbaijan 2000 ago, Iranian-speaking peoples lived quite definitely, some Albanians unknown in the language, as well as Turks. In large numbers, the Turks arrived there a little later, but at about the same time - about 2000 years ago - there was strong pressure on the Turks from Iran by the Wed. Asia, and a little later - and from the Caucasus. And very often these lands were ruled by Iran, but also enjoyed considerable independence. The main territory of Azerbaijan and the Caspian coast itself was never part of Armenia.
                  5. Seal
                    Seal April 3 2016 00: 10
                    0
                    Strabo "Geography":
                    "12. The ancient history of this nation is approximately the following. As I said, Armen from the Thessalian city of Armenia, located between Fera and Larissa on Lake Beba, went on a campaign to Armenia with Jason. Kirsil from Farsal and Media from Larissa, participants in Alexander's campaign, claim that Armenia received its name from him. Part of Armen's companions settled in Akilisen (which in former times was subject to the Sofenes), while others - in Sispiritis up to Kalachena and Adiabena behind the Armenian mountains (in Asia Minor - R.G.) It is further said that the clothes of the Armenians are Thessalian; for example, long tunics, called Thessalian in the tragedies, tied with a belt around the chest, and outer clothing with fasteners ... "
                    "Armen came from Armenia - one of the cities near Lake Bebeida, between Feram and Larisa. Armen’s satellites occupied the regions of Akilisenu and Sispiritida up to Kalahana and Adiabena, and he even left Armenia of the same name with him." (Strabo. "Geography", XI part, p. 503)

                    Roman historian of the III century Mark Junian Justin also noted that Armen was from the city of Armenia in Thessaly (near Lake Bebeida) and was the founder of Armenia. And on the northeastern coast of the Aegean was the region of Thrace, which became the next camp for the Armenians, who, having got here, further settled in Phrygia in Asia Minor. Then the Armenians settled inland Asia Minor - south of Lake Van and at the source of the Euphrates - that is, at the junction of the borders of modern Turkey, Syria and Iraq. It is this route Thessaly-Thrace-Phrygia and further to the Euphrates River and the south of Lake Van that ancient authors have shown as a way of nomadizing Armenians.
                    Herodotus: Phrygia was located next to another historical area - Cappadocia. At the time of Herodotus (XNUMXth century BC), the ancestors of the Armenians lived "above the Assyrians", up the Euphrates, the river that, according to the historian, separated Armenia from Cilicia. He specially noted that the Armenians came to their country from the West. Herodotus also pointed out that the Armenians are the descendants of the Phrygians.
                    And Strabo (I B.C. - I C.E.) writes about a new Armenia in Asia Minor, where the Armenians moved from the Balkans: "Araks (Araz - R.G.) flows through Armenia, and Cyrus (Kura - R .G.) - through Iberia and Albania ... "" The largest of them is Cyrus. It originates in Armenia ... ".
                    An outstanding Russian scientist writes that the ancestral home of Armenians is located outside the South Caucasus and even Asia Minor I.M.Dyakonov... Based on the linguistic analysis of the ancient Armenian language, "it is revealed, first of all, that it is Indo-European ...". Then Dyakonov states: "since the ancient Armenian language is not related to the languages ​​of the autochthonous of the Armenian Highlands - Hurrians, Urarts, it is clear that it was brought here from outside." The famous Armenist G.A. Kapantsyan came to similar conclusions in a special study on the "pre-Caucasian homeland" of the Armenians, who believed that the Armenians should be confined mainly to the space between the upper reaches of the Euphrates (Kara-su), Chorokh and Araks ", where they moved from Balkan (Thessaly).
      2. andj61
        andj61 April 2 2016 15: 05
        +4
        Quote: hrych
        The funny thing is that Armenia does not border with the Russian Federation, but it was Syria that connected us with Iran, it became our secret, as in the song ... Supply if what happens through the Caspian and Iran, and taking into account our specialists will again be like Debaltsevsky, Palmyra and for example the Ganja cauldron. After all, war does not mean victory, someone will be defeated.

        The Azerbaijani Defense Ministry reports that the fighting is taking place in the Terter and Agdam directions.

        Pay attention - nowhere is it said that the battle is going on in Nagorno-Karabakh, but indicated - in the region of Nagorno-Karabakh ...
        Actually - in the part of Azerbaijan occupied by the Armenians, which has no relation either to the territory of Armenia or to the territory of Karabakh. There is no dispute at all on this land ...
  • st25310
    st25310 April 2 2016 13: 47
    -39%
    The conflict in Karabakh is beneficial for Russia, the entry into NATO of these republics disappears. South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Donbass. I can’t lose how we let the Baltic states go to NATO ...
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 2 2016 14: 32
      +31
      Quote: st25310
      The conflict in Karabakh is beneficial for Russia, the entry into NATO of these republics disappears. South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Donbass.

      To whom, to whom, and Russia such a conflict is needed the least, as, in fact, any conflict on the borders. fool
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 April 2 2016 17: 27
        +16
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Well, to whom, to whom, and Russia needs such a conflict the least,

        Yeah, we got a hemorrhoid near by. Now Russia will urgently have to reconcile the neighbors who have parted in earnest. This is the case when you have a severe brawl behind the wall, but you can’t call the district policeman, because the precinct - you yourself. So in any case you have to harness. Lavrov, another smut ... How is it all stumbling.
      2. Seal
        Seal April 3 2016 00: 11
        0
        To whom, to whom, and Russia such a conflict is needed the least, as, in fact, any conflict on the borders.

        Where are our borders and where is the "conflict" belay
    2. sgazeev
      sgazeev April 2 2016 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: st25310
      The conflict in Karabakh is beneficial for Russia, the entry into NATO of these republics disappears. South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Donbass. I can’t lose how we let the Baltic states go to NATO ...

      There is a conflict, the path is closed to NATO. And Russia does not need conflicts at all.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid April 3 2016 09: 57
        0
        The Americans always break their slogans like the Wahhabis (the connection is visible !!!). They can do a lot for the evil of Russia.
        But to break your rules --- even more so!
    3. Tersky
      Tersky April 2 2016 17: 58
      +4
      Quote: st25310
      The conflict in Karabakh is beneficial for Russia,

      belay And what? That's where in the Caucasus Russia needs it as hemorrhoids during constipation. Russia suffers a headache from the state 404.
      Quote: st25310
      the entry into NATO of these republics disappears. South Ossetia and Abkhazia,
      South Ossetia and Abkhazia are republics that were part of Georgia, and, as you know, NATO has already given them carte blanche despite the fact that it has disputed territories with these republics.
      Quote: st25310
      Donbass.

      And this is not an arc at all, there is practically a civil war going on, if Urkain has territorial disputes then with Russia in part of the Crimea, which she cannot see as her own ears, even in a mirror. But who really benefits - guess right away.
  • gergi
    gergi April 2 2016 10: 14
    +30
    The word CAN here is inappropriate. Turkish-American ears stick out too clearly. Another hotbed of instability at our borders. The world scum continues its anti-human activity.
    1. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad April 2 2016 11: 06
      +5
      At the expense of the Americans, I would not argue. The USA has a rather influential Armenian lobby. Azerbaijan did not even hear about that.
      1. Seal
        Seal April 3 2016 00: 13
        0
        Yes, influential. But there is a problem.
        From the report on lobbying in the USA for 2014.
        In total, in 2014 more than $ 5 billion was spent on lobbying in America. So, Congress took 2,1 billion from lobbyists, and the US Chamber of Commerce received $ 170 million. The five leading companies that spent the largest amount of funds on foreign policy lobbying include: Squire Patton Boggs ($ 17), Akin, Gump et al ($ 755), Podesta Group ($ 000), Brownstein , Hyatt et al ($ 17), and Holland & Knight ($ 150). Big changes have also occurred in the Top 000 leading ethno-lobbying influence groups. The US-Israel Social Affairs Group has maintained a leading position. The Israeli lobby has obtained from Congress not only an increase in external allocations amid a general budget cut, but also the allocation of $ 12 million to improve the Iron Dome missile defense systems.

        The second line is still kept by the Armenian National Committee of America, which, compared to last year, has noticeably increased. So, in the group of Armenian affairs of the Congress today are 113 legislators against 92 in 2013. In addition, members of the Armenian caucus are the chairmen of the following committees: on international affairs (the House of Representatives and the Senate), on external allocations (the House of Representatives and the Senate) and the leader of the Democratic majority of the Senate. The Armenian lobby managed to maintain the US government’s allocation of gratuitous financial assistance to Armenia and the NKR, lobby the California state to adopt a resolution recognizing the NKR’s independence, as well as the adoption by the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs of the "Act in support of justice on the Armenian Genocide" and the "Return of Christian Confiscated Christian Turkey shrines. "

        The problem for the Armenians is that Azerbaijan is now very good friends with Israel. Therefore, the Israeli lobby in the US Congress supports whom? And the Israeli lobby is almost twice as strong as the Armenian one!
  • DanSabaka
    DanSabaka April 2 2016 10: 21
    -16%
    This is least beneficial for the Turks .... Military operations call into question the transit of oil and gas to Turkey through pipelines laid through Azerbaijan ....
    1. Eragon
      Eragon April 2 2016 12: 50
      -2
      Quote: DanSabaka
      This is least beneficial for the Turks .... Military operations call into question the transit of oil and gas to Turkey through pipelines laid through Azerbaijan ....

      The most important question is who benefits? In case of victory of Azerbaijan, I don’t know, there are many questions, and in case of victory of Armenia, it is definitely Russia. And not only the United States is able to "stir up" wars ...
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 April 2 2016 16: 32
        +4
        Quote: Eragon
        and in case of victory of Armenia - definitely Russia.

        In the event of Armenia’s victory, Azerbaijan will have little left, and I think that the Armenians are well aware that they will still take the territory, Turkey will join the war. Azerbaijan has nowhere to retreat, but it has long been preparing for the war, it’s necessary to return the territory
        1. hrych
          hrych April 2 2016 18: 30
          +8
          Quote: Pilat2009
          Azerbaijan has nowhere to retreat

          If we take a physical map, it will immediately become clear that the Armenians captured the mountainous part, then the plain. In fact, Azerbaijanis need to storm the mountains, and here the technical advantage is insignificant. Also, Azerbaijanis constantly flaunt that they are Türks, which means that they are steppes by origin. Highland Armenians with experience of several thousand years, they know the terrain better, even physical features (adaptation of the body) are better, in the mountains a man of the plain quickly gets tired, this is due to the amount of hemoglobin in the blood and the discharge of air. I do not own the information, but it would be more competent for the Turks to form mountain units from ethnic Lezghins, etc. Although it is easier to back down ...
          1. garnik64
            garnik64 April 3 2016 00: 04
            +1
            Most likely Lezghins and Talyshs in the first echelon. As in 90 years.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky April 2 2016 17: 49
        +3
        Quote: Eragon
        Quote: DanSabaka
        This is least beneficial for the Turks .... Military operations call into question the transit of oil and gas to Turkey through pipelines laid through Azerbaijan ....

        The most important question is who benefits? In case of victory of Azerbaijan, I don’t know, there are many questions, and in case of victory of Armenia, it is definitely Russia. And not only the United States is able to "stir up" wars ...

        And yet, probably it is beneficial for the United States!
        Azerbaijan is not a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization and, in the event of a serious cut with Armenia, may provoke the involvement of countries joined by a collective security treaty, as aggression is shown in relation to one of the members of the agreement (Armenia). It did not work to drag Russia into the war with Ukraine and Turkey, they will try to do this through the Karabakh problem. In any case, for mattresses, war has always been a priority, especially on foreign territory and by the wrong hands.
        1. hrych
          hrych April 2 2016 18: 34
          +2
          Nobody dares to invade Armenia because the treaty on the CSTO says a lot. It’s easier for the Turks to simply declare war on the Russian Federation and kill themselves without unnecessary manipulations ... The war will be limited to the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Region and the captured mountainous regions and sadly for Azerbaijan, the Russian Federation will help with weapons, etc.
          1. Seal
            Seal April 3 2016 00: 20
            -1
            In the CSTO, just like in NATO, all decisions are made only with the consent of all members of the organization. And the fact that Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan will subscribe to this adventure - to support Armenia - I deeply doubt something. Moreover, Armenia was not attacked. The battles are fought on the territory captured by the Armenians.
            In fact, the CSTO made a big mistake by accepting its members to Armenia. It would have to be like in NATO - if you have problems with your neighbors - first solve them - then come sign up.
        2. Seal
          Seal April 3 2016 00: 19
          0
          Azerbaijan is not a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization and, in the event of a serious cut with Armenia, may provoke the involvement of countries joined by a collective security treaty in the conflict, as aggression is shown towards one of the members of the agreement (Armenia).
          That is unlikely. And in the CSTO, just like in NATO, all decisions are made only with the consent of all members of the organization. And the fact that Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan will subscribe to this adventure - to support Armenia - I deeply doubt something. Moreover, Armenia was not attacked. The battles are fought on the territory captured by the Armenians.
          In fact, the CSTO made a big mistake by accepting its members to Armenia. It would have to be like in NATO - if you have problems with your neighbors - first solve them - then come sign up.
        3. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 April 3 2016 08: 36
          -1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          provoke the involvement in the conflict of countries united by a collective security treaty,

          I give a tooth, none of the CSTO members will go there. They don’t need it. Maximum peacekeeping troops will be introduced along the demarcation line, and then if it comes to the Armenia-Azerbaijan border, some time ago the Kazakh comrades directly said here that they are rooted from Turks and related to Azerbaijanis
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 2 2016 10: 53
    +6
    "SRTS P-15 Turkey speak!
    Most likely. Only to us, what side? Well, the Armenians are clinging to the Azerbaijanis. What is really that Adler will be empty? I talked with one veteran of that first war. From the Armenian side. So he said that.
    "Well, they captured Karabakh, so what? Rocks and nothing else. They quarreled with people forever. That's all."
    1. avt
      avt April 2 2016 10: 59
      +5
      Quote: Observer2014
      "SRTS P-15 Turkey speak!
      Most likely. Only to us how sideways then?

      Both.
      Quote: Mitek
      Exactly. Donbass followed.

      request While Petsya will pinpoint, but ...... request
    2. hrych
      hrych April 2 2016 11: 00
      +20
      Quote: Observer2014
      Rocks and nothing more

      This philistine view, for us (readers of the Military Review), is the cutting off of a hostile state, both a member of the North Atlantic Alliance, and the Wahhabi gang from the Caspian Sea and measures to prevent the creation of a common belt from Central Asia to Hellas.
      1. Seal
        Seal April 3 2016 00: 22
        0
        Well, how, cut off? I would like to see your "clipping" on the map. Can you draw?
        1. hrych
          hrych April 3 2016 10: 27
          +1
          Armenia and Iran cut through the Turkic world, also the most developed and ambitious country, i.e. Turkey is deprived of the opportunity to control the resources of Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan, hence the critical dependence on the supply of the same gas from Russia, which in the event of a conflict will be shut off, which is more than 60%. If we take the failed Nabucco, then it would pass straight through Yerevan directly, however, it was planned to bypass Armenia, to please the anti-Armenian ideology, and lengthening it foolishly, and this became another nail in the grave of this project. The same Georgia, although flirting with Erdogan, incidentally, Adzhar’s contradictions climbed up after Mishiko’s departure, etc. Plus, control over the Karabakh ridge, as well as the Greater Caucasus, ensures that a large and motorized army will not pass through a natural fortress with walls thousands of meters away. Actually, the Baku regime will soon receive one more confirmation. It’s hard to believe about the friendship of the Russian Federation with Azerbaijan due to the massacre of Armenians. this people is both an ethnic, economic and religious competitor. The Azerbaijani diaspora in Russia with its mentality of sympathy among the people does not cause the Caspian at all and in the future, as the treasure of the Earth will be divided between Iran and Russia, the rest will be taken to flight because the time of small principalities ends.
    3. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan April 2 2016 11: 19
      +9
      And you would have told him that you would not have fought then, abandoned your land, given everything to the Azerbaijanis, they would have greatly respected them for this ...
    4. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 April 2 2016 11: 26
      +23
      In vain you so simplifies the situation. Armenia is our union state. Russia covers them.
      I even talked with the Azeris, their verdict - if it weren’t for Moscow, we would have figured out the Armenians for a long time!
      By the way, Perdogan promised problems with Azerbaijan.
      1. Sirocco
        Sirocco April 2 2016 17: 05
        +3
        Quote: Retvizan 8
        By the way, Perdogan promised problems with Azerbaijan.

        Then something like that looms in the subject, In the US there is a party on a nuclear topic, there are Erdogan, Aliyev and Poroshenko.
        The fact that the conflict in Karabakh will be unleashed, after the Russia-Turkey conflict, it was a matter of time, and this time coincided so well with the summit in the USA, I expected the conflict in the Donbas to worsen after the arrival of Gunpowder from the Washington Regional Committee, and here on you, Karabakh, What to say? The United States and Turkey did not forgive us the victory in Syria, and sent an invitation to the war on another front, I’m afraid we will just be offered two dishes of Donbass and Karabakh. Yeah, I didn’t think that Aliyev would cave in under a changing world.
        It is symptomatic that the exacerbation was preceded by a series of diplomatic conflicts. At the end of January in Strasbourg, at a session of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE), British parliamentarian Robert Walter introduced a draft resolution on "the escalation of violence in Nagorno-Karabakh and other occupied territories of Azerbaijan." The document called for "withdrawing Armenian forces from Nagorno-Karabakh" and "to approve full control of Azerbaijan in these territories." Moreover, just a few votes were not enough to pass a resolution.

        Well, to continue the theme, this is the Polish epic with monuments, and an invitation to Poland for the American contingent of the Armed Forces, as well as in the Baltic countries. What is it for? I'm afraid it's not in vain that Putin did not go to this summit, no matter how our "partners" were preparing a setup for him there.
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka April 3 2016 09: 27
          0
          Well, to continue the theme, this is the Polish epic with monuments, and an invitation to Poland for the American contingent of the Armed Forces, as well as in the Baltic countries. What is it for? I'm afraid it's not in vain that Putin did not go to this summit, no matter how our "partners" were preparing a setup for him there.

          information is in the air ... I talked about the same thing - nothing happens just like that, the Big Game is too big! The pressure on us has sharply increased on all fronts, even seemingly in the details, but as the devil later turns out to be in the details ... As long as our leadership manages to take a step ahead, God forbid they keep this distance ... Too much force has been thrown against Russia, here not by number, but by decreasing (s) you can only win! hi
      2. Seal
        Seal April 3 2016 00: 25
        +2
        Armenia is our union state. Russia covers them.
        Yes, we cover them. But it is not allied to us. Armenia is an ally only to itself. And she listens to the States. Since it is the States that allocate money for the maintenance of Karabakh. Therefore, this our "ally" has not yet recognized and does not recognize that Crimea is Russia. Afraid that the States will be weaned from the trough.
    5. weksha50
      weksha50 April 2 2016 11: 56
      +8
      Quote: Observer2014
      Likely.Only to us sideways then?Well, Armenians grapple with Azerbaijanis.What is really Adler empty?


      Um ... Armenia is a member of the CSTO ... That is, it is our ally ... Here's a "bite" for you ... Another attempt to tie Russia into more than one trap, but into another ...

      And Adler then - what do ???
      1. gergi
        gergi April 2 2016 15: 20
        +12
        Armenians are quite capable of throwing Azerbones on their own. There, motivated people, they were cut more than once without exception, these are not market traders. Tofiki with Mamedov do not want to fight, they want to trade.
      2. sherp2015
        sherp2015 April 2 2016 16: 09
        +3
        Quote: weksha50
        Another attempt to entangle Russia not in one trap, but in another ...


        One hundred percent!
      3. ultra
        ultra April 2 2016 16: 55
        +2
        Quote: weksha50
        And Adler then - what do ???

        And you go there and guess right away! laughing
        1. midivan
          midivan April 2 2016 17: 35
          +5
          Quote: ultra
          Quote: weksha50
          And Adler then - what do ???

          And you go there and guess right away! laughing

          I think he will understand in Sochi lol
          1. Mikhalych 70
            Mikhalych 70 April 2 2016 22: 51
            0
            The airport in Adler ...
            1. Seal
              Seal April 3 2016 00: 27
              0
              Adler is a district of the city of Sochi.
      4. Seal
        Seal April 3 2016 00: 27
        0
        That is, it is our ally ...
        Armenia is an ally only to itself. And she listens exclusively to the States. Since it is the States that allocate money for the maintenance of Karabakh. And Armenia falls no less than from us. Therefore, this our "ally" has not yet recognized and does not recognize that Crimea is Russia. Afraid that the States will be weaned from the trough.
    6. Observer2014
      Observer2014 April 2 2016 12: 29
      +8
      I want to express my gratitude to the "hrych" for the disclosure of the topic. It was very interesting to understand the essence of the problem. Thank you again.
      P / S But the Armenians themselves let them protect themselves on earth. Ours should act as in Syria if that, and no more.
    7. sherp2015
      sherp2015 April 2 2016 16: 01
      +6
      Quote: Observer2014
      is Adler empty? I’ve talked with one veteran of that first war. From the Armenian side. So he said that.
      "Well, they captured Karabakh, so what?


      Exactly! I think Adler, like the entire Black Sea coast on which the Armenians have "graciously settled", will definitely not be empty. Too well they have occupied a warm land in recent years.
    8. sgazeev
      sgazeev April 2 2016 17: 25
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      "SRTS P-15 Turkey speak!
      Most likely. Only to us, what side? Well, the Armenians are clinging to the Azerbaijanis. What is really that Adler will be empty? I talked with one veteran of that first war. From the Armenian side. So he said that.
      "Well, they captured Karabakh, so what? Rocks and nothing else. They quarreled with people forever. That's all."

      It all started with the massacre of Armenians in Baku.
    9. 72jora72
      72jora72 April 3 2016 09: 05
      0
      Well, they captured Karabakh and what? Rocks and nothing more
      Have you yourself been in Armenia or Karabakh ??
  • Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad April 2 2016 11: 03
    +7
    Turkey and muddy. Moreover, Armenia has no border with Russia. But with Turkey and Azerbaijan there.
  • Kostyar
    Kostyar April 2 2016 11: 13
    +4
    As you can see, the messages about who actually provoked the next round of armed conflict vary exactly the opposite.

    Conductor Zaokayansky, for them it’s manna from heaven .....
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 April 2 2016 12: 01
      +7
      Quote: Bone
      Conductor Zaokeyansky

      request
      http://www.vesti.az/news/287835
      02 April 2016
      ARMENIAN PRESIDENT DISCUSSED ARMED CONFLICT IN NAGORNO KARABAKH WITH US SECRETARY OF STATE
      Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan at a meeting in Washington with US Secretary of State John Kerry discussed the escalation of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Other issues on the regional and international agenda were also raised. The meeting was held as part of a nuclear summit in the US capital.
      "The agenda of high-level Armenian-American relations, topical international problems, the crisis in the Middle East, the situation in the South Caucasus region, existing challenges, the current stage of the negotiation process on the Karabakh settlement and other issues of mutual interest were discussed at the meeting," at the press service of the President of Armenia.
      It is reported that S. Sargsyan "attached great importance to the role of the United States in preserving regional security and stability, in particular the involvement of the United States in the process of peaceful settlement of the Karabakh problem. as a co-chairing country of the OSCE Minsk Group, "Interfax reports.
      =====
      Well, that would not post 2 times
      belay
      http://www.vesti.az/news/287359
      IN AZERBAIJAN 100 SCHOOL GRADUATES CAN NOT READ OR WRITE
      The results of final exams in Azerbaijan revealed a depressing fact.

      APAC was informed by the State Committee on Civil Law, among schoolchildren in grades 9 and 11, not only was the lack of mastery of the curriculum revealed, but even students who could neither read nor write.

      “Among schoolchildren of the 11th grade - 24, 9th grade - 76 people. These statistics were identified based on the protocols of exam managers. Given that such cases are not noted in the protocols of most examiners, we can assume that there are actually more such facts, and the situation is much worse.

      It is strange that these students finished up to the 9th, and even the 11th grade. The number of 11th grade students who cannot read and write by district (city) is as follows: in Sabirabad district, 6 people, in Lankaran - 4, in Hajigabul - 3, in Tovuz - 2, in Dashkesan, Gadabay, Gazakh, Goranboy, Imishlinsky, Astara, Lerik, Yardimli and Masalli regions - one at a time. The number of students in grades 9 who do not know how to read and write is as follows: in the Astara district 12 people, in Sabirabad - 9, in Lerik - 8, in Gadabay, Tovuz and Masalli regions - 4 people each, in Gazakh, Geranboy and Barda districts - 3 each, in the Dashkesan, Shamkir, Agstafa, Agjabadi, Agdash, Yardymlinsky and Hajigabul districts - 2 each, in Gakh, Kalbajar, Gabala, Ordubad, Khizyn, Agdam, Khachmaz and Dzhabrail districts one at a time, -
      1. Seal
        Seal April 3 2016 00: 30
        0
        From the report on lobbying in the USA for 2014.
        In total, in 2014 more than $ 5 billion was spent on lobbying in America. So, Congress took 2,1 billion from lobbyists, and the US Chamber of Commerce received $ 170 million. The five leading companies that spent the largest amount of funds on foreign policy lobbying include: Squire Patton Boggs ($ 17), Akin, Gump et al ($ 755), Podesta Group ($ 000), Brownstein , Hyatt et al ($ 17), and Holland & Knight ($ 150). Big changes have also occurred in the Top 000 leading ethno-lobbying influence groups. The US-Israel Social Affairs Group has maintained a leading position. The Israeli lobby has obtained from Congress not only an increase in external allocations amid a general budget cut, but also the allocation of $ 12 million to improve the Iron Dome missile defense systems.

        The second line is still kept by the Armenian National Committee of America, which, compared to last year, has noticeably increased. So, in the group of Armenian affairs of the Congress today are 113 legislators against 92 in 2013. In addition, members of the Armenian caucus are the chairmen of the following committees: on international affairs (the House of Representatives and the Senate), on external allocations (the House of Representatives and the Senate) and the leader of the Democratic majority of the Senate. The Armenian lobby managed to maintain the US government’s allocation of gratuitous financial assistance to Armenia and the NKR, lobby the California state to adopt a resolution recognizing the NKR’s independence, as well as the adoption by the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs of the "Act in support of justice on the Armenian Genocide" and the "Return of Christian Confiscated Christian Turkey shrines. "

        The problem for the Armenians is that Azerbaijan is now very good friends with Israel. Therefore, the Israeli lobby in the US Congress supports whom? And the Israeli lobby is almost twice as strong as the Armenian one!

        Therefore, this our "ally" has not yet recognized and does not recognize that Crimea is Russia. Afraid that the States will be weaned from the trough.
  • weksha50
    weksha50 April 2 2016 11: 49
    +5
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    Or maybe Turkey stirs up water? Isn’t she doing the job of provocation on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan? Turkey realizes its threat?



    Sound reasoning ...

    There was a lull for too long ... And too "in time" for some it caught fire again ...
    1. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 April 2 2016 19: 28
      0
      No matter who you are, a black-assed monkey will go to America, so when he returns, he begins the war .........
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  • dyksi
    dyksi April 2 2016 11: 51
    +7
    There are mattresses behind the Turks, I think that they will try to set fire to other hot spots around Russia.
  • iouris
    iouris April 2 2016 13: 35
    +6
    Firstly, Erdogan directly stated this. Secondly, it reduces the possibility of creating a threat from Armenia. Turkey is NATO, NATO is the United States. So everything is logical.
    This conflict was predicted, so the time to prepare a non-linear response was enough.
  • g1v2
    g1v2 April 2 2016 16: 56
    0
    Armenians and az-ts have been shooting for a long time and both sides want to solve the conflict with a war that everyone intends to defeat. Of course, we reassure them, because the war between us and the two countries with which we have normal relations is frankly disadvantageous to us. We have a base in Armenia, but in Azerbaijan we agreed to build radars. Again, relations with Aliyev improved. Of course, the external push was unambiguous - someone gave Aliyev guarantees of assistance. In principle, while Azerbaijan does not creep into the territory of Armenia itself, we are not obliged to intervene - let them play. But if it strikes at Armenia, then we will have to intervene, but would not want to. However, any frozen conflict will have to come to something sooner or later - and let's see where everything goes. It is a pity that Azn is not a member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, because then we could well not intervene at all in the conflict between the allies. hi
  • sgazeev
    sgazeev April 2 2016 17: 03
    +1
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Or maybe Turkey stirs up water? Isn’t she doing the job of provocation on the border of Armenia and Azerbaijan? Turkey realizes its threat?

    More likely than not. The Armenians will blow the Isaacs anyway. angry
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  • warriordima
    warriordima April 2 2016 21: 34
    0
    It also seems that the links of one chain, first the export of their ovs from Turkey by ami., And now they decided to inflate the old coals.
  • Mitek
    Mitek April 2 2016 10: 14
    +13
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Has spring aggravation begun? The next stage in the Donbass? The Americans brought their sixes to a new war on the outskirts of the Russian Federation.

    Exactly. Donbass followed. Here is a possible explanation for the withdrawal of aircraft from Syria. And it all started after the meeting of Erdogan with Obama. Not for nothing, because mattresses so defiantly abuse Turkey and distance themselves from it.
    The worst thing is that Van will have to extinguish the fire from Ryazan or Pskov, and rhinos will trample here a la refugees.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 2 2016 10: 55
      -3
      Quote: Mitek
      Exactly. Donbass followed. Here is a possible explanation for the withdrawal of aircraft from Syria.

      Is Russia going to fight with Ukraine?
      Quote: Mitek
      And it all started after the meeting of Erdogan with Obama.

      Have they met? Maybe I missed something?
      1. avt
        avt April 2 2016 11: 02
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        Have they met? Maybe I missed something?

        handled, like everyone else on the gangway in turn, but the Velikoukr media wrote under the photo - "meeting" and "accepted" without specifying how many gramslaughing And so yes - only Biden as the head of all Great Duchy.
      2. Makk
        Makk April 2 2016 11: 10
        +12
        Have they met? Maybe I missed something?

        Apparently they missed, probably at that moment they trained sarcastic smirks in front of the mirror.
        See the Nuclear Security Summit.
      3. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN April 2 2016 14: 58
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Mitek
        Exactly. Donbass followed. Here is a possible explanation for the withdrawal of aircraft from Syria.

        Is Russia going to fight with Ukraine?
        Quote: Mitek
        And it all started after the meeting of Erdogan with Obama.

        Have they met? Maybe I missed something?

        I don’t always agree with atalef, but in this particular case, for what, minus? Asked specific questions. You need to give specific answers. Or do nothing. I don’t understand.
        For example.
        Quote: atalef
        Is Russia going to fight with Ukraine?

        It is possible that it will be forced into peace for aggression.
        If you don’t know, Ukraine (judging by the Ukrainian media and the statements of their politicians) is already at war with us. So, everything is within the play.
        Quote: atalef
        Have they met? Maybe I missed something?

        Obama met with Erdogan on April 1 on the sidelines of a nuclear security summit. The leaders of the two countries discussed efforts to combat the Islamic State group, banned in Russia.
        http://lenta.ru/news/2016/04/02/obama_turkey/
      4. ultra
        ultra April 2 2016 16: 59
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Is Russia going to fight with Ukraine?

        It’s Ukraine who is going to fight with us, even the number of killed Russian special forces, marines and others is already fighting for tens of thousands !!! Do you not know? laughing
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      6. 72jora72
        72jora72 April 3 2016 09: 13
        +1
        Is Russia going to fight with Ukraine?
        And where did you see Ukraine in the Donbass ???? ......... it was there in the best of times with a mouse dick .....
  • vlad66
    vlad66 April 2 2016 10: 27
    +15
    Quote: oleg-gr
    The Americans brought their sixes to a new war on the outskirts of the Russian Federation.

    It didn’t work in Ukraine, it didn’t work out against the Turks, they try it here. It was not for nothing that Aliyev traveled to Washington. request
  • lav67
    lav67 April 2 2016 10: 39
    +9
    Erdogan flew to America, and so it began. Spring has less effect.
  • Finches
    Finches April 2 2016 10: 51
    +31
    Our military academies teach military affairs in the present way officers and those and others .... Moreover, I am talking with Azerbaijanis - the Armenians are to blame, Azerbaijanis with the Armenians! And no one wants to agree - that’s the problem ... But Armenia is a member of the CSTO, tomorrow they will ask for help, Turkey will ask for help from Turkey, a member of NATO ... Such problems in our region are beneficial only to the Anglo-Saxons! Russia needs to intervene on the highest level and fast enough! It’s easy to start a war - it’s hard to stop!
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 April 2 2016 12: 29
      +4
      Quote: Finches
      .After all, Armenia is a member of the CSTO, tomorrow they will ask for help,

      Is not one berry field ????
      (honestly thought Donbass what ) After all, Petya hinted about peacekeepers
      not casual, I think these teachings were winked
      ======
      Posted by: 31 mar. 2016
      CVO peacekeepers worked out "operation forcing peace»
      1. Finches
        Finches April 2 2016 12: 38
        +4
        Everything is possible, but Azerbaijanis will also ask for Turks!
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 April 2 2016 12: 46
          +4
          Quote: Finches
          Everything is possible,

          Comt already began to collect a bunch of Old sad
          https://cont.ws/post/238281
          The conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh. Online streaming
          ======
          short
          12:43 - The army is in full control of the situation in Karabakh, said the Prime Minister of Armenia.

          Armenian Armed Forces fully control the situation in the Karabakh conflict zone, Armenian Prime Minister Hovik Abrahamyan stated, the press service of the government said.

          "The Armenian military forces, inflicting significant losses and throwing back the enemy, are in full control of the situation," Abrahamyan said during a government meeting called on Saturday.

          12:42 - Nagorno-Karabakh reported the destruction of 2 helicopters, 2 tanks and 2 drones.

          Air defense forces of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) destroyed several pieces of equipment of the Air Force of Azerbaijan, the press service of the Ministry of Defense reports.

          12:41 - Vladimir Putin called on the parties to the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh to a ceasefire.

          Russian President Vladimir Putin is deeply concerned about reports of resumption of hostilities in Nagorno-Karabakh. The head of state called on the parties to restraint, said spokesman for the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov.

          12:36 - Armenia announces the destruction of the sabotage group of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan.

          This was stated to reporters in the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Armenia.

          According to representatives of the military department, at the approaches to the village of Levonarch, the special forces unit of the Defense Army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR) identified and destroyed the enemy’s sabotage and reconnaissance group, which retreated, leaving the place of their victims, the Interfax agency reports.

          11:59 - Tension on the contact line of troops is still ongoing. This was reported in the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan.

          The Ministry noted that the Azerbaijani artillery launched a powerful fire attack on the predetermined coordinates of the enemy troops, incapacitating its military equipment, personnel and other military equipment.
    2. Seal
      Seal April 3 2016 00: 33
      0
      Armenia is a member of the CSTO, tomorrow they will ask for help
      Well, they will ask. SO WHAT ? In the CSTO, just like in NATO, all decisions, except procedural, are taken with the full consent of all members. Something I deeply doubt that Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan will sign up for Armenia. And what the Old Man will decide is not a fact.
      1. hrych
        hrych April 3 2016 10: 38
        0
        Quote: Seal
        Something I deeply doubt that Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan will sign up for Armenia.

        Correctly, just like NATO, Britain and the USA decide, the rest are in the wings. The very essence of the CSTO is not to fight Tajiks with Azerbaijanis, but to be saved by the Russian army from evil neighbors. And coordination of actions will come down to the basic principle - to hold out a bit and not to interfere, providing our troops with territory and airspace.
  • atalef
    atalef April 2 2016 10: 54
    +3
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Has spring aggravation begun? The next stage in the Donbass? The Americans brought their sixes to a new war on the outskirts of the Russian Federation.

    When problems begin in the economy, war is the best way to distract the population from internal problems.
    1. Yegorchik
      Yegorchik April 2 2016 11: 15
      +7
      Quote: atalef

      When problems begin in the economy, war is the best way to distract the population from internal problems.

      It seems that not only problems in the economy pushed Azerbaijan, but also that Russia allocated a preferential loan for the supply of armaments to Armenians and the implementation of deliveries under this loan will put an end to Azerbaijan’s advantage in armaments. The Armenians were going to put a bunch of nishtyaks, including the Avtobaz complex, as a result, Azerbaijan , swelling a bunch of funds in the purchase of weapons, decided to start the operation while its advantage is maximized.
    2. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan April 2 2016 11: 29
      +13
      This is a myth ... War does not distract anyone, but on the contrary only exacerbates the contradictions between power and society, within society, especially when there are problems in the economy, which leads to the further collapse of the country ... An example of Russia after the Russo-Japanese war ... And from revolutionary ideas were not distracted by the people and this power didn’t add any popularity ... In addition, the people began to despise the army and navy ... They began to call ships - self-propelled guns, beat sailors, etc ....
      1. Bruss
        Bruss April 2 2016 11: 44
        -1
        And here the ears of Japanese intelligence are already sticking out! Specific!
    3. Observer2014
      Observer2014 April 2 2016 11: 30
      +13
      "atalef" "When problems start in the economy, war is the best way to distract the population from internal problems."
      I absolutely understand your whole leitmotif. All your comments. You seem to have moved to Israel from Ukraine. So smoke here in VO as you can. Smoothly drive the topics in the right direction for you. Sparite comments with ultrasound speed. Yes, why did they leave Ukraine? Probably, life was around? And I personally know a little more than a lot of people like you from Ukraine in Israel. I have distant relatives living in Israel. I was lucky to move from Lvov. except for gratitude to fate they do not feel any feelings. Because as Jews. And apparently you are not even a Jew, but as in that joke "a Jewish wife is not a luxury but a means of transportation."
      1. atalef
        atalef April 2 2016 11: 36
        -1
        Quote: Observer2014
        I absolutely understand your whole leitmotif. All of your comments. You seem to have moved to Israel from Ukraine

        I AM ? belay
        Quote: Observer2014
        . Here and smoke here on V.O. how can

        Everyone smokes - as they can.


        Quote: Observer2014
        .Back comments with ultrasound speed. Yes, why did you leave Ukraine like that?

        Well, for this I had to come at least
        Quote: Observer2014
        And people like you from Ukraine

        This is you from Ukraine, and I, sorry - no
        Quote: Observer2014
        So they, except for gratitude to fate, feel no feelings whatsoever. Because they are Jews.And you apparently are not even a Jew,
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 April 2 2016 15: 36
          +5
          "atalef" Quote:
          ". Here and smoke here on VO as you can"
          Firstly, you can’t.
          And secondly, "Everyone smokes - as they can." Your words?!
          So that I have not found more use for myself there, how to be "atalef"?
          Apparently not.
          For me, V.O. a hobby, And for you a profession. And what and what would you do here about V.O.
          We will look at you as a person without a homeland and a flag.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 April 2 2016 17: 28
            +3
            By the way, why did you decide that I was from Ukraine? I am Russian, I was born in Russia. 4 hours by car to the monument "the center of Russia in Novosibirsk. Well, yes, for you there 4 hours by car is more than a country there and back.
            1. atalef
              atalef April 2 2016 21: 31
              0
              Quote: Observer2014
              By the way, why did you decide that I was from Ukraine?

              And with something decided that I?

              Quote: Observer2014
              I am Russian, born in Russia

              I am a Jew, was born in Belarus and lived there for exactly a month, I have lived in Russia all my life
              Quote: Observer2014
              4 hours by car to the monument "center of Russia in Novosibirsk

              Well ?
              Quote: Observer2014
              Well, yes, for you there 4 hours by car is more than a country back and forth

              observer, you say laughing
          2. atalef
            atalef April 2 2016 21: 28
            -1
            Quote: Observer2014
            So that I have not found more use for myself there, how to be "atalef"?

            What to sit on in?

            Quote: Observer2014
            For me, V.O. hobby, And for you a profession.

            Strange, in my opinion everything in VO has already been known for a long time (with the exception of apparently bully ) that I'm generally a power engineer.

            Quote: Observer2014
            we will look at you as a person without a homeland and a flag

            Well, in general, I do not care.
    4. An60
      An60 April 2 2016 11: 36
      +7
      Israelis are pros!
    5. ultra
      ultra April 2 2016 17: 00
      +1
      Now it’s clear why the US is constantly starting a war. laughing
  • tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa April 2 2016 10: 59
    +1
    What does the US Six have to do with it? There, without the United States, everything has been going to war for about 20 years, there, the brawl and without external intervention, the Armenians not just climbed into the CSTO and the Azerbaijanis bought new weapons, if anyone is involved, it is Turkey.
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  • st25310
    st25310 April 2 2016 13: 25
    -1
    The war did not stop there, only on our television this is not shown. And Turkey for Azerbaijan as Ukraine and Belarus for Russia. They sleep and see when the Ottoman Empire will annex them.
  • vodolaz
    vodolaz April 2 2016 14: 32
    +1
    Azerbaijanis and others like them play out, Georgians have already received. Although a little, as it turned out.
    1. atalef
      atalef April 2 2016 15: 05
      +1
      Quote: vodolaz
      Azerbaijanis play out

      I don’t know, without any connection to the NKAR, etc., Azerbaijanis have always been prettier to me.
      Simply, they never had great-power chauvinism among them, unlike the Armenians who shouted about Great Armenia at every corner.
      And they are more sincere and more hospitable. IMHO.
      1. andj61
        andj61 April 2 2016 15: 21
        +7
        Quote: atalef
        I don’t know, without any connection to the NKAR, etc., Azerbaijanis have always been prettier to me.
        Simply, they never had great-power chauvinism among them, unlike the Armenians who shouted about Great Armenia at every corner.
        And they are more sincere and more hospitable. IMHO.

        There is no such obvious priority for me: there are Azerbaijanis among friends and acquaintances, and Armenians.
        The Azerbaijanis have a very sharp division into the so-called. "city" and "village", that is, highly educated and cultured, and frankly backward. For Armenians, this is much less. And if they say about Great Armenia, then as about the distant past. Still, today's realities do not even allow for this. And now they rather position themselves as the second most influential diaspora in the world - after the Jewish one.
      2. vodolaz
        vodolaz April 2 2016 16: 17
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: vodolaz
        Azerbaijanis play out

        I don’t know, without any connection to the NKAR, etc., Azerbaijanis have always been prettier to me.
        Simply, they never had great-power chauvinism among them, unlike the Armenians who shouted about Great Armenia at every corner.
        And they are more sincere and more hospitable. IMHO.

        I am not talking about people, but about the state. There is enough dirt everywhere.
      3. sherp2015
        sherp2015 April 2 2016 16: 19
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        I don’t know, without any connection to the NKAR, etc., Azerbaijanis have always been prettier to me.
        Simply, they never had great-power chauvinism among them, unlike the Armenians who shouted about Great Armenia at every corner.
        And they are more sincere and more hospitable. IMHO.


        ))) Good afternoon, Alexander!
        Why are you so unflattering about your brothers? ))))
        1. garnik64
          garnik64 April 2 2016 17: 45
          0
          Rather, they are brothers to you. Billionaires and deputies of the State Duma from ..... settled firmly as before the October Revolution.
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 April 2 2016 14: 46
    +1
    Has spring aggravation begun? The next stage in the Donbass?
    Dear, this stage has already begun almost a month ago, just now Syria has come to the first place in the media and practically do not write anything about Novorossia ....
  • skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru April 2 2016 15: 25
    -1
    Now it’s clear why GDP removed a portion of aviation from Syria
  • TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force April 2 2016 16: 54
    +2
    how in one book was written, what spring exacerbation? what are you talking about? just spring, zielonka went to the spirits of money threw here and intensified :)
  • Turkestan
    Turkestan April 2 2016 16: 57
    +5
    Next STAGE CENTRAL ASIA. No stability belt is created around RUSSIA
  • Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock April 2 2016 17: 36
    0
    Quote: oleg-gr
    Has spring aggravation begun? The next stage in the Donbass? The Americans brought their sixes to a new war on the outskirts of the Russian Federation.

    Since Armenia is in the CSTO, the grouping of Russian troops in Armenia should be strengthened. Recently, Azerbaijan has been quite heavily arming itself, buying air defense systems "Iron Dome" from Israel and not only ...
    1. Seal
      Seal April 3 2016 00: 38
      +1
      Since Armenia is in the CSTO, the grouping of Russian troops in Armenia should be strengthened.
      Well, where is the logic? Azerbaijan was also in the CSTO. Then he came out of our clearly pro-Armenian policy. But tomorrow may come in again.

      In addition, in the CSTO, just like in NATO, all decisions, except procedural, are taken with the full consent of all members. Something I deeply doubt that Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan will sign up for Armenia. And what the Old Man will decide is not a fact.
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  • RUSS
    RUSS April 2 2016 17: 45
    +1
    Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense announces capture of several strategic heights and settlements in Nagorno-Karabakh as a result of a military operation, Trend reports. In Baku, they announced a breakthrough in the line of defense of the Armenian troops.
    The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan called the operation a counterattack, which was launched in response to the provocations of the Armenian Armed Forces on the night of April 2.

    The Azerbaijani military announced the destruction of six Armenian tanks, 15 artillery mounts and fortified engineering structures, as well as the fact that the losses of the Armenian army killed and wounded exceeded 100 people.

    At the same time, 12 servicemen of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces were killed, one Azerbaijani Mi-24 helicopter was shot down and one tank was damaged in a mine. The decision on retaliatory measures in the directions of Agdere-Terter-Agdam and Khojavend-Fizuli was taken by the command of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan, the publication notes
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 April 2 2016 21: 37
      0
      And here’s the downed turntable itself
  • goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx April 2 2016 18: 10
    +1
    probably in tajikistan they will also stir up something - nobody wrote something from there for a long time, but wrote one, so they banned him ...
  • svp67
    svp67 April 2 2016 10: 03
    +19
    Poorly. Now we should expect the advance of Ukraine in the Donbass and Turkey in Syria ... Spring is getting too hot. What a summer it will be.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist April 2 2016 10: 04
    +31
    Karabakh blazed. In one place, stew in another set on fire. When the mattress smokes ....
    1. monah10
      monah10 April 2 2016 10: 13
      +30
      While we chew the snot and run a little bit to agree and send information to the amers, it will be so. We need to pursue our policy, and let them coordinate their actions with us.
  • HAM
    HAM April 2 2016 10: 04
    +19
    Bad, very bad news .....
  • RUSS
    RUSS April 2 2016 10: 05
    +3
    The Ministry of Defense of Armenia officially confirmed the attacking actions that the Azerbaijani Armed Forces took on the night of April 2 along the entire line of contact with the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (NKR), Armenpress reports.

    According to the Armenian Ministry of Defense, Baku used tanks, artillery and air forces, with the help of which it planned to invade the territory of the NKR.

    The agency, citing the Information and Public Relations Department of the NKR Defense Army, reports that the aggressor was driven back along the entire line of contact and suffered significant losses.

    Fighting continues, Armenpress writes.

    "The authorities of Azerbaijan bear all responsibility for such an unprecedented tension on the contact line," the NKR Defense Army Information and Public Relations Department said.

    The armed forces of the unrecognized republic called on the international community, especially the co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group, to pay attention to the situation and expects urgent targeted intervention to maintain control of the situation, "in order to avoid large-scale military operations."
    1. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot April 2 2016 10: 42
      +5
      Quote: RUSS
      The Ministry of Defense of Armenia officially confirmed the attacking actions that the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan took on the night of April 2 along the entire line of contact with the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic



      Well, what for? Do not live peacefully?

      In Baku, the Formula-1 stage is to pass soon, money has been poured into it ... Will people go there after that? What loss of funds will be ..
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 April 2 2016 12: 31
      +2
      Quote: RUSS
      The armed forces of the unrecognized republic called on the international community, especially the co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group pay attention to the situation and awaiting urgent targeted intervention



      Well ... And who among these Minsk "co-chairs" will react ???

      That's right ... First of all, they expect intervention from Russia ...

      Armenia is an ally ... Azerbaijan is not a friend, but not an enemy ...

      The situation, although not a stalemate, but rather worthless ...
      1. avt
        avt April 2 2016 16: 43
        +7
        Quote: weksha50
        Azerbaijan is not a friend, but not an enemy ...

        And so ....
        Quote: weksha50
        Armenia is an ally ...

        But not Karabakh. Russia didn’t sign up for CSTO through Karabakh. So if you decide to bomb Yerevan from Ankara or Baku, well then, by agreement of the parties, from the availability of funds.
        1. Seal
          Seal April 3 2016 00: 43
          0
          I think that Nazarbayev will make every effort so that even in this case the CSTO (or at least Kazakhstan) remains on the sidelines. And Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan are likely to support Nazarbayev.
        2. weksha50
          weksha50 April 3 2016 11: 35
          0
          Quote: avt
          Well, if from Baku or Ankara they decide to bomb Yerevan, then by agreement of the parties from the availability of funds. Again, BY AGREEMENT OF THE PARTIES within the CSTO with EXTERNAL aggression



          I agree ... I did not think a bit ...
      2. Seal
        Seal April 3 2016 00: 40
        0
        Armenia is an ally ...

        Armenia is an ally only to itself. And she listens exclusively to the States. Since it is the States that allocate money for the maintenance of Karabakh. And Armenia falls no less than from us. Therefore, this our "ally" has not yet recognized and does not recognize that Crimea is Russia. Afraid that the States will be weaned from the trough.
  • tomket
    tomket April 2 2016 10: 07
    +1
    Now Armenia and Azerbaijan, during the escalation of Russia and Turkey, and there it started .... Although the current US administration is unlikely to escalate.
    1. weksha50
      weksha50 April 2 2016 12: 33
      +1
      Quote: tomket
      Although the current US administration is unlikely to escalate.



      Hmm ... Horns and hooves in this situation are Azerbaijani and Turkish ...

      And whose ears ??? Is not the Amer’s current administration ???
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 2 2016 10: 07
    +19
    Oil has fallen in price. Azerbaijan ran out of money. The population begins to worry. He had to cheer him up with something. So it started.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 2 2016 10: 11
      +9
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Oil has fallen in price. Azerbaijan ran out of money. The population begins to worry. He had to cheer him up with something. So it started.

      And who gave them confidence that they will win? After all, the loss in such "exhilaration" may cost Azerbaijan too much. Usually "this" ends in a revolution, or at least a government crisis.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 April 2 2016 10: 18
        +34
        Well, in general, the army of Azerbaijan is much stronger than the Armenian, if you exclude the base and support of the Russian Federation. Azeris have 100 T-90, and Belarusian T-72, and Tornadoes, and TOSs, and BMP-3, and all sorts of Israeli-Turkish MLRS, artillery, cars, UAVs. Also good air defense - S-300PMU + Pechora2TM + Tor + Barak-8.
        1. svp67
          svp67 April 2 2016 10: 23
          +24
          Quote: donavi49
          Well, on the whole, the army of Azerbaijan is much stronger than the Armenian, if you exclude the base and support of the Russian Federation.

          Because of the brackets, it’s worthwhile to bring out the landscape of that theater. Mountains, and in them it will be easier for the defender to repulse the attacks of a stronger and more numerous enemy.
        2. hrych
          hrych April 2 2016 10: 34
          +38
          Quote: donavi49
          Well, in general, the army of Azerbaijan is much stronger than the Armenian,

          In general, the SA army is stronger than Yemen, but hostilities are already taking place in the territory of the SA, although this is not advertised in order not to cause an oil panic before the fall of the Saudi house (by the way, pay attention to the latest statements by the Saudi prince and the announcement of the sale of the Saudi national oil company) ... the presence of more equipment and personnel does not mean anything, the more Azerbaijan needs to conduct an offensive operation on the deeply echeloned defense of the enemy. Where the cost of the tank is commensurate with the cost of an ATGM shot on the other hand.
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 April 2 2016 11: 02
            +9
            AND? Yemenis have been living in war since 92. But the Saudis are not. They climbed in 2008 and received from the then Houthis, whom Saleh kept in the mountains. However, no conclusions were drawn when the Americans "asked" Saleh to leave, hinting at Muammar, and a puppet from SA - Hadi came to power. At first, even the people supported him, and the Houthis were sitting in the mountains. But after a few months, Hadi was able to turn the people, the army and even the southern tribes against him. As a result, the Maidan, the victorious march of the Houthis to Sana'a, the flight of Hadi to Aden, the victorious march of the Houthis to Aden, while even the southern tribes supported them (this is the same as the North and South Koreans will go to beat someone else now), the flight to an unknown ship to Saudi Arabia, tearful requests to restore constitutional order in the country and return the throne - the beginning of the intervention in Yemen.

            It’s very, very optimistic and even dreamy to say that the Hussites are seriously threatening the Saudis, specifically on the issue of the fall of the country.

            On the one hand, the Southern tribes, which, under the grants of the Saudis, their weapons drove the Hussites back, hold the entire industrial South. From the east, the interventionists are still threatening Sana'a. In the north, the Saudi mountains are really nightmare, however, even if, in addition to the suburbs and border towns, the Husits ​​take and hold on the Shiite city of Jinzan, nothing particularly critical will happen.

            Now the people's committees (Hussites) launched an unexpected attack and almost recaptured Taiz in the South. It got to the point that they were thrown into a counterattack by the AQAP, armed with the RPG-32, Minimi, all sorts of G-36 and other things that were distributed from the army depots (and this is just an epic - even the Americans were worried and started bombing the AAPP, which the Saudis were transporting on their transport from east and south to Taiz).

            However, there is a very complex conflict in which the Saudi army showed complete unwillingness to fight at all levels, logistics, military training, discipline and command. In contrast, from the UAE, which the task of creating a bridgehead for an attack on Sana'a was completed by taking Marib and declaring victory, they left the active phase of the operation.
          2. Ratmir_Ryazan
            Ratmir_Ryazan April 2 2016 11: 37
            +7
            It’s not necessary to think that it’s possible to destroy a tank directly with one ATGM ... During the battles in Grozny, our old T-72Bs received several hits with various anti-tank weapons and remained on the move, destroying the enemy’s identified firing points by return fire ... Of course, DZ also saved and skillful maneuvering (the tank never set sides and stern to the enemy), and lowering the ammunition load (only automatic loader) and the lack of fuel in the upper tanks, and of course tactics (tank carousel - worked in pairs, one covers and conducts observation, the second works in advance revealed enemy firing points, then they change, then they are changed by another pair of tanks and so on until victory ... I read about one battalion, so they had no losses at all, while they constantly took part in offensive operations, and even shots were launched against them ...
            1. Vitwin
              Vitwin April 2 2016 14: 40
              +5
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              . I read about one battalion,

              That's exactly what I read - you would have been there when they broke through to the Minute, looked at how the armor burns, minus you
            2. PHANTOM-AS
              PHANTOM-AS April 2 2016 15: 21
              +4
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              then they change, then they are changed by another pair of tanks and so on until victory ... I read about one battalion, so they had no losses at all,

              Strategist? Have you heard anything about Budanov? And what victory did you register here?
              You better talk with the database participants under the vodka, but I do not advise them to tell you anything about what you read, they will beat you.
              minus
        3. atalef
          atalef April 2 2016 10: 57
          +9
          Quote: donavi49
          Well, in general, the Azerbaijani army is much stronger than the Armenian, if you exclude the base and support of the Russian Federation

          Russia is unlikely to engage in an open confrontation with Azerbaijan.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 April 2 2016 11: 08
            +12
            Quote: atalef
            Russia is unlikely to engage in an open confrontation with Azerbaijan.

            Will be forced. Connected by contract. Another thing Russia will do everything to prevent it from reaching the war!
            1. Pereira
              Pereira April 2 2016 11: 12
              +13
              I believe that the Armenians are able to cope on their own if they help with weapons.
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            2. atalef
              atalef April 2 2016 11: 21
              +3
              Quote: Stas157
              Will be forced. Contract bound

              With whom, with the NKAR?
              Russia does not recognize the NKAR.
              Quote: Stas157
              Another thing Russia will do everything to prevent it from reaching the war!

              There will be a war, a gun hanging on the wall should shoot and now in Azerbaijan the situation most conducive to war.
              The question is different, how can Russia get in if hostilities are waged in the NKAR, given that
              1. NKAR is not part of Armenia
              2. Russia does not recognize the NKAR.
              1. Pereira
                Pereira April 2 2016 16: 36
                0
                But no way. What for?
                Let the territory belong to the one who needs it.
              2. avt
                avt April 2 2016 16: 49
                +2
                Quote: Stas157
                Will be forced. Contract bound

                Quote: atalef
                With whom, with the NKAR?
                Russia does not recognize the NKAR.

                Quote: atalef
                1. NKAR is not part of Armenia

                Namely, only for Armenia, as agreed by the parties within the framework of the CSTO under the FOREIGN ARGESSION.
            3. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 April 2 2016 16: 39
              0
              Quote: Stas157
              Will be forced. Connected by contract.

              Until Azerbaijan enters the actual territory of Armenia or attacks our base, there is no point in interfering. And how is it spelled out in the treaty? If, in the "case of aggression by another state," and the Armenians are the first to start, then no.
            4. ultra
              ultra April 2 2016 17: 07
              0
              Quote: Stas157
              Will be forced. Connected by contract.

              Connected with Armenia, but what does Karabakh have to do with it?
            5. Seal
              Seal April 3 2016 00: 44
              0
              Will be forced. Connected by contract.

              What agreement are you talking about now?
          2. dyksi
            dyksi April 2 2016 12: 01
            +4
            If full-scale military operations really begin there, with the participation of aviation and ground forces, then Russia will get involved, there is a contract and ace is registered there.
            1. 538246
              538246 April 2 2016 12: 22
              +5
              As I know, Nagorno-Karabakh does not belong to Armenia. And at the moment it is recognized by one state of Hawaii. Which contract can be more detailed?
            2. Anatole Klim
              Anatole Klim April 2 2016 12: 35
              +7
              Quote: dyksi
              If full-scale military operations really begin there, with the participation of aviation and ground forces, then Russia will get involved, there is a contract and ace is registered there.

              You would read this agreement, it says that Russia will provide assistance to Armenia, but not to Nagorno-Karabakh. NKR is an unrecognized republic, not even recognized by Armenia, and legally Nagorno-Karabakh is part of Azerbaijan, moreover, there is a so-called security belt - it is part of the territory of seven regions of Azerbaijan that are actually occupied by the NKR troops, which occupy favorable dominant heights for defense of the NKR territory, while these territories have nothing to do with Nagorno-Karabakh. Russia will never fight for Nagorno-Karabakh, but it will fight for Armenia, but Azerbaijan has no territorial claims against Armenia, and is not going to attack Armenia. If the war starts, then Armenia and Azerbaijan will fight in Nagorno-Karabakh, no one will directly attack each other.
              1. garnik64
                garnik64 April 2 2016 17: 55
                -1
                And you listen to the eternal president of Azerbaijan. So they presented Armenia to the Armenians.
            3. ultra
              ultra April 2 2016 18: 43
              0
              Quote: dyksi
              then Russia will get involved, there is a contract and there is an ace registered.

              The agreement does not say that Karabakh is part of Armenia, therefore Armenia will act independently.
          3. SHAMAN
            SHAMAN April 2 2016 12: 27
            +7
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: donavi49
            Well, in general, the Azerbaijani army is much stronger than the Armenian, if you exclude the base and support of the Russian Federation

            Russia is unlikely to engage in an open confrontation with Azerbaijan.

            In the open, no ... but like so we can warn the mouse!
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          4. co-creator
            co-creator April 2 2016 12: 54
            -1
            Quote: atalef
            Russia is unlikely to engage in an open confrontation with Azerbaijan.

            It was still not enough to fight for the Armenians. If Putin goes for it, he will be the biggest idiot.
            1. SHAMAN
              SHAMAN April 2 2016 13: 38
              -5
              Quotation: blooded man
              Quote: atalef
              Russia is unlikely to engage in an open confrontation with Azerbaijan.

              It was still not enough to fight for the Armenians. If Putin goes for it, he will be the biggest idiot.

              We are holding back Armenia ... Shkolota! They can capture Baku ..! (All the tomatoes will be transferred by tanks ..)))))
          5. dauria
            dauria April 2 2016 13: 02
            +2
            Russia is unlikely to engage in an open confrontation with Azerbaijan.
            atalef

            “Einstein, do not tell God what to do” (Niels Bohr) wink
          6. alicante11
            alicante11 April 2 2016 14: 16
            +8
            Russia is unlikely to engage in an open confrontation with Azerbaijan.


            Atalef, are you tired of prophesying? It doesn't come true. Assad had already sat out for a month, the "withdrawal" of the Aerospace Forces turned into the capture of Palmyra. Also here, amers do not care about all the agreements, why do we have to comply with something? Moreover, this is our zone of influence, and everyone here must walk in line with Russia. And who does not understand this, we will organize "peace enforcement" or "Crimean".
            1. atalef
              atalef April 2 2016 14: 31
              -12%
              Quote: alicante11
              Assad has been sitting out like a month,

              month, just a month.
              Quote: alicante11
              "withdrawal" of the VKS turned into the capture of Palmyra.

              And how many such palmyra are left before a complete victory?
              Quote: alicante11
              Also here, amers do not care for all contracts, why should we observe something?

              What are you talking about?
              those. do you think that Russia will fight against Azerbaijan, because of Armenia fool More precisely, the NKAR, which itself does not recognize.
              Quote: alicante11
              Moreover, this is our zone of influence and everyone here should go in front of Russia

              Where else is the zone of influence and what would go along the string?
              Quote: alicante11
              And who does not understand this, we will organize "peace enforcement" or "Crimean".

              bully
              1. andj61
                andj61 April 2 2016 14: 58
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: alicante11
                Assad has been sitting out like a month,
                month, just a month.

                So he said that in March, but a little wrong with the month ... or year ... repeat
                It happens. request The prophets also have an unenviable fate - they are always misinterpreted. laughing
                Relentlessly crazy girl
                Shouted: "I clearly see Troy fallen to dust!"
                But clairvoyants - however, like eyewitnesses -
                In all ages, people have been burned at the stake.
              2. alicante11
                alicante11 April 2 2016 15: 26
                0
                month, just a month.


                How much do you need? Someday, of course, he will leave, or die. It was about until February.

                And how many such palmyra are left before a complete victory?


                I strongly doubt the possibility of achieving it thanks to you and the amers. But the fact that either Russian assistance is still sufficient suggests that Russia is not merging Syria.

                those. Do you think that Russia will fight against Azerbaijan, because of Armenia fool, or rather NKAO, which itself does not recognize.


                Do not fight, but force peace. South Ossetia and Abkhazia were not recognized before the war either. And if we fight, then not for the Armenians, but for the interests of Russia in this region.

                Where else is the zone of influence and what would go along the string?


                Judging by what is happening in Syria, she is approaching you, so you can begin to learn to walk on a string in advance :).

                Smiley set, i.e. nothing to say, so to speak, the drain counted?
            2. Kazbek
              Kazbek April 2 2016 15: 05
              +1
              Quote: alicante11
              Moreover, this is our zone of influence, and everyone here should go in front of Russia.
              It’s a good time for Azeri to resolve the issue of the "occupied territories". And not just now, but in the coming years. Due to the sanctions, the fall in oil prices, the cost of Crimea, Donbass, Syria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia and, as a result, agro-huge problems in the Russian economy, the Kremlin will be extremely problematic to participate in this conflict.
              The "ball" is on the side of Baku - to decide here and now, or wait until the situation in Russia is even worse .. and Moscow, in principle, will not care what is in Karabakh ..
              And who does not understand this, we will organize "peace enforcement" or "Crimean".

              Yeah lol as if the Turks did not organize a "treacherous stab in the back" ..
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 April 2 2016 15: 29
                +1
                It’s a good time for Azeri to resolve the issue of "occupied territories".


                If GDP allows.

                The ball "is on the side of Baku - to decide here and now, or wait until the situation in Russia is even worse .. and Moscow, in principle, will not care what is there in Karabakh .."


                Do not wait, the situation in Russia is only improving.

                Uh-huh lol as if the Turks did not organize a "treacherous stab in the back" ..


                Well, we have long wanted to seize Constantinople, just the reason will be.
              2. avt
                avt April 2 2016 20: 12
                0
                Quote: Kazbek
                It’s a good time for Azeri to resolve the issue of "occupied territories".

                "They decide", already in VKontakte the Azeri upload their photos with the severed head of the Armenian. You can go through the link through Regnum. Not soldiers - animals.
                1. hrych
                  hrych April 2 2016 20: 37
                  +4
                  Actually, everything seems to have ended already, the aggressor was thrown back with losses, the blitzkrieg failed. The reliability of the combat reports also showed that the Armenians, speaking of the downed turntable, did not lie, but the opposite side did, denying this fact. And now I had to admit when the video appeared.
                  We are waiting for the resignation of the commander of the armed forces of Azerbaijan.
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                  2. hrych
                    hrych April 2 2016 20: 42
                    +1
                    In general, something like this:
                2. Yeraz
                  Yeraz April 2 2016 20: 47
                  0
                  Quote: avt
                  Not soldiers - animals.

                  I have already said that the new one will be more cruel. The first recognized each other. Khojaly stamped in that war and no one will spare each other.
                  This moment has 1 plus. The combat zones will be instantly cleared of civilians. The Armenians understand that Azerbaijanis will be even harder to avenge Khojaly, and Azerbaijanis remember Khojaly.
                  1. garnik64
                    garnik64 April 3 2016 00: 31
                    0
                    In the memory of the Armenians such Khojaly in relation to himself for a century is enough.

                    Look at YouTube, Khojaly. Between hunger and fire. Power at the cost of lives.
        4. scrap123
          scrap123 April 2 2016 11: 22
          0
          they have no spirit of war)
        5. weksha50
          weksha50 April 2 2016 12: 38
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          The Azeris have ...


          Just about ... and the Armenians have ... And practically all the weapons (well, the majority) are ours, Soviet-Russian, and on the one and the other ...

          And the conflict is still the one from the Soviet era almost got ...

          And how to put out this fire ??? And how can Russia not become an enemy, neither one nor the other ???

          If you want, you don’t want, but you have to take sides, otherwise this conflict cannot be extinguished ...

          Whose? Not even a conversation - of course, an ally in the CSTO ...
          1. Seal
            Seal April 3 2016 00: 49
            -2
            In the state interests of Russia, we need Azerbaijan, not Armenia. This is easily proved. So far, there, in the Transcaucasus, the conflict is smoldering, from which we are supposedly equidistant (but still a little closer to Armenia) Azerbaijan (seeing this and not hoping for our help in returning Karabakh) will inevitably drift towards Georgia, and therefore to NATO side. And thus give the opportunity to Europe and the Ukrainians to build all sorts of intrigues, such as Chinese transit or deliveries of Turkmen gas to Ukraine and further to Europe. And the Armenians will constantly untwist us for money, under their high-profile songs that they are our only friend and ally in Transcaucasia. What is our national interest here? Constantly losing money directly (gifts from Armenia) and indirectly (the transit that was supposed to go through us goes by us)? Is this our state interest? Let's imagine that Georgia is entering or has already joined NATO and see what is more dangerous for us: a) if Azerbaijan then joins b) if Armenia then joins NATO. Let's start with the last one. If Armenia joins NATO (especially when Georgia is already a member of NATO), this will not affect the weather in any way. Well, we’ll just assume that somewhere in the back of Georgia, far from our border, another Georgian region will appear. Well, or if Georgia is not a member of NATO, then we can assume that Turkey’s NATO member has yet another area in the east. And that's all. For us, the entry of Armenia into NATO does not create absolutely any problems. We do not have common borders with Armenia. But if Azerbaijan joins NATO, especially when Georgia is already a member of NATO, then look at the map. From Iran, we instantly become cut off. Communication is only by sea. And NATO ships will appear on the Caspian Sea. Moreover, having appeared on the Caspian Sea, NATO may begin to control that eastern side of the Caspian Sea. Do we need it? We urgently need to change the vector of politics from pro-Armenian to involving Azerbaijan in our orbit. If we tie Azerbaijan to ourselves, we will thereby completely deprive our Central Asian "friends" and Kazakhstan of any illusions that they have the opportunity to pull their pipelines to Europe, bypassing Russia (or Azerbaijan, which is tied to us). By tying Azerbaijan to us, we will cut the eggs to Ukraine and Georgia, which have already soaped themselves with rail transit to China past Russia. And if Azerbaijan falls out of this chain, then to hell with it, and not Chinese transit. There is no one to replace Azerbaijan. Armenia has no access to the Caspian Sea. And Armenia ... Yes, to hell, we need this Armenia, located in such a bum of the world that it is impossible to get into it from Russia by land without the consent of Azerbaijan or Georgia. And by the sea - this is through Iran and there are another thousand miles, and all with mountains, mountains. It is to our advantage that Azerbaijan, with our help or with our connivance, regain Karabakh. Then our Azerbaijan is tight !! And only after that, when we will tightly bind Azerbaijan to ourselves, only then will it be possible to gradually feed Armenia with weapons. So that Azerbaijan clearly understands that if it tries even a little bit to loosen the rope that ties it to Russia, then the Armenians may again begin to take Karabakh.
        6. Nekarmadlen
          Nekarmadlen April 2 2016 15: 57
          +2
          Rich is not the one who has a lot of money, but the one who knows how to manage it correctly)))))
        7. ultra
          ultra April 2 2016 17: 05
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          in general, the army of Azerbaijan is much stronger than the Armenian,

          On paper, yes, here the Saudis are much stronger than the Hussites in terms of weapons and what, what are the successes of the Saudi coalition?
        8. garnik64
          garnik64 April 2 2016 17: 48
          -1
          Thanks to the CSTO ally.
    2. monah10
      monah10 April 2 2016 10: 15
      +4
      Some after this invigoration will calm down forever. Sad or vile. How right?
      1. An60
        An60 April 2 2016 11: 43
        +1
        Right-breasted!
    3. Human Factor
      Human Factor April 2 2016 10: 22
      +2
      It looks like. In Ukraine, too, ran out of money.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch April 2 2016 10: 56
        +3
        Quote: Human Factor
        It looks like. In Ukraine, too, ran out of money.

        The last (?) Loan, if I am not mistaken, was in August or September. Further friendly pats on the shoulder and carrots in front of the nose ...
  • Chersky
    Chersky April 2 2016 10: 07
    +8
    Judging by official comments, the Azerbaijanis started the same.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist April 2 2016 10: 12
      +1
      Quote: Chersky
      Judging by official comments, the Azerbaijanis started the same.

      Vesti AZ spokesman for the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan Vagif Dyargahly.

      “On the night of April 2, Azerbaijani positions were fired from mortars and heavy machine guns. Settlements located along the front line were bombarded. The Azerbaijani side has taken retaliatory measures, ”V. Dyargahly said.

      According to him, the Azerbaijani Armed Forces are taking retaliatory measures along the front line in the Agdam, Terter, Khojavend, Fizuli directions.
      “In the near future, the public will receive extensive information about the situation on the front line,” he stressed
      .
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 April 2 2016 12: 52
        -4
        Armenians need to keep the liberated territories, and Azerbaijanis to return what they got free then. So think about who needs it.
    2. weksha50
      weksha50 April 2 2016 12: 46
      +3
      Quote: Chersky
      Judging by official comments, the Azerbaijanis started the same.



      However, at all times during this conflict, the official comments of the opposing sides were surprisingly unanimous in spirit ...

      One pointed to the other as the guilty ...

      So all these official statements are like the results of surveys conducted by Levada ... If you want, believe it, but if you want, don’t believe ...

      Who muddied the first mess - now they themselves will not figure it out ...
  • Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb April 2 2016 10: 08
    +19
    Azerbaijan launched an open attack, fighting is ongoing along the entire border with Nagorno-Karabakh

    Where are Azerbaijanis, there are ears of Turks
    1. Boz_canavar
      Boz_canavar April 2 2016 10: 33
      -8
      I will disappoint you, we are the Turks. winked
      1. Pereira
        Pereira April 2 2016 11: 09
        +8
        What is this disappointment? This is a statement of fact -Turks incite Azerbaijanis. And if you consider yourself to be an instigator, Azerbaijanis can ask you personally.
        1. Boz_canavar
          Boz_canavar April 2 2016 11: 15
          -7
          with all due respect I disagree with you hi Turkey has nothing to do with it.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira April 2 2016 16: 31
            +2
            The ideas of pan-Turkism, destabilization in the Caucasus, Turkish propaganda in Baku. And this has nothing to do with it? Of course, while the Turks do not shoot at the Armenians. Till.
      2. hrych
        hrych April 2 2016 11: 13
        +7
        Quote: Boz_Canavar
        we are the Turks
        Cool, only the majority of Kurds live in Turkey, tens of millions of Muhajirs and others. And, with regards to the Ottomans, they themselves killed them at the beginning of the 20th century and overthrew the last Osman = Abdul-Hamid II.
        1. Seal
          Seal April 3 2016 00: 54
          +1
          last Osman = Abdul Hamid II.
          But what kind of Ottoman is he if he was an Armenian mother? And actually the Ottoman blood in it was, God forbid, 0,001% Look through who the Ottoman sultans married. At least one Sultan had at least one ottoman the mother of that shahzade who became the next sultan?
  • Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 2 2016 10: 09
    -12%
    Armenians again in their role. They lie and steal. And they do not lie skillfully. Yesterday, they dreamed that the Armenians shot down an Azerbaijani helicopter. Maybe in computer games the Armenians can shoot down a helicopter, but only in the game.

    The information that the Armenian armed forces shot down a helicopter of the Air Force of Azerbaijan does not correspond to reality. This was reported to Vesti.Az by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan.

    “Information about the downed helicopter of the Air Force of Azerbaijan is a blatant and cynical lie. All technical and aviation facilities are in place. This is another provocation of the Armenian side, ”the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry said.

    A spokesman for the Defense Ministry said the ministry would make an official statement on the situation on the front line in the near future.
    http://vesti.az/news/287827
    1. Pereira
      Pereira April 2 2016 11: 17
      +18
      Yes of course. We all remember how the Azerbaijanis beat the Armenians in the tail and mane, triumphantly ending the war in Karabakh.
      I have no doubt that the series of brilliant Azerbaijani victories will continue.
      1. Boz_canavar
        Boz_canavar April 2 2016 11: 33
        -11%
        did you look bad? there he openly said how Russian troops participated on the side of Armenia hi and he is a more or less knowledgeable person directly ex-in Karabakh more than once.
        1. pigkiller
          pigkiller April 2 2016 12: 30
          +7
          Nevzorov reported another, although his engagement by Azerbaijanis
          from the diaspora to St. Petersburg. was obvious.
          1. Boz_canavar
            Boz_canavar April 2 2016 12: 39
            -8
            what else ??? he openly said how Russian troops participated on the side of Armenia!
            more than Nevzorov of Karabakh from Russian experts, no one is so knowledgeable, a person directly ex in Karabakh repeatedly!
            1. ultra
              ultra April 2 2016 18: 47
              +3
              Quote: Boz_Canavar
              like Russian troops

              It is always easier to justify your defeats by the participation of a third force than to look for real reasons.
        2. garnik64
          garnik64 April 2 2016 13: 16
          +2
          As well as on the side of Azerbaijan, in addition to 2000 thousand Mujahideen, 600 Chechens, Kazakhs, gray wolf cubs (who fought on the side of the Chechens against the federals) and Turkish, etc.
        3. Pereira
          Pereira April 2 2016 16: 35
          0
          The fact is that when there was a war in Karabakh, Russian troops stood on both front lines.
          For money, they imitated the shooting of some in the direction of Armenia, some of Azerbaijan, although they aimed, of course, from scratch. I know this from the officer who really was there and shot. These are not my inventions.
        4. ultra
          ultra April 2 2016 18: 45
          +2
          Nevzorov said a lot of things and you won’t understand when he told the truth then or now. Do you have any evidence of the participation of Russian troops on the side of the Armenians?
  • RUSS
    RUSS April 2 2016 10: 11
    +2
    Baku said that information about allegedly shot down by the Armenian military helicopter of the Air Force of Azerbaijan does not correspond to reality. This was reported to Interfax by the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan.

    “Information about the downed helicopter of the Air Force of Azerbaijan is absolutely a lie. All technical and aviation facilities are in place. This is another provocation of the Armenian side, ”a spokesman for the ministry said.

    Earlier, the press secretary of the Minister of Defense of Armenia, Artsrun Hovhannisyan, wrote on his Facebook page: “Azerbaijan has launched an open attack, fighting is ongoing along the entire length of the border with Nagorno-Karabakh.” He said that the Azerbaijani side launched artillery attacks on peaceful settlements and places of permanent deployment of a number of military units.

    Sources in Armenia claim that a Mi-24 helicopter was shot down near Mount Mrav.
    1. garnik64
      garnik64 April 2 2016 18: 08
      0
      Already recognized one helicopter. On the first channel passed.
    2. ultra
      ultra April 2 2016 18: 48
      +1
      Already recognized as the loss of 3 tanks.
  • Hubun
    Hubun April 2 2016 10: 12
    +8
    Americans muddied all the water, dogs.
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  • askort154
    askort154 April 2 2016 10: 16
    +10
    It seems that the results of Erdogan’s trip to the USA. Our base is in Armenia.
    There are two options, either Erdogan got the go-ahead, or he was “offended” by a cold reception, the loser in Syria, decided to go “to the bank”, organize another war and involve Russia. Rather, the second option. As soon as Aliyev fell for it? How was he "convinced"?
  • Talgat
    Talgat April 2 2016 10: 16
    +10
    "... We can only hope that reason will prevail and the authorities of both Armenia and Azerbaijan will stop the hostilities, which could lead to catastrophic consequences for the entire region ..."

    Unfortunately, events are driven not by "reason" - but by the interests of the parties - and each pulls in his own direction. As well as before the 1st or 2nd world wars. There is no need to rely on the rationality of politicians - that the "smart uncles" will agree, and so on. Countries can be put in a situation - as has happened more than once in history - when decisions and development of an event will be catastrophic for everyone (but for someone from afar it can be very beneficial)

    The ideal situation for Armenia is for everyone to forget and leave NPOs - but this will not work - t will not allow Azerbaijan

    For Azerbaijan - to take back the NGOs - but Armenia will resist - and Russia is behind it. Iran is likely to take a pro-Russian position - which, in fact, is already doing.

    Azerbaijan, as we all understand, will be supported by Turkey - and thereafter NATO - that is, escalation will involve more and more forces -

    The interests of the United States and the West are obvious here - to drag Russia into the conflict in the Caucasus - and then Russia will be bound by this conflict - and will not be able to pursue the policy it needs in Ukraine or in Syria or Central Asia, etc.

    Sometimes I think. maybe Russia and Armenia should negotiate conditions with Azerbaijan (neutral status - non-deployment of Turkish or NATO forces, pipeline routes, some kind of geopolitical or economic benefits - etc.) - and cede this NGO - relocate all Armenians from there to Armenia or Russia - and stabilize this site? Will less peace be reconciled with Azerbaijan and Turkey?
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak April 2 2016 10: 58
      +12
      Quote: Talgat
      and cede this NGO - resettle all Armenians from there to Armenia or Russia

      1) Relocate to Armenia? Very boldly said. Do you know that the inhabitants of Armenia do not consider all other "Armenians" as people? Especially if they have no direct relatives in Armenia. Ask the Armenians of Baku who tried to move to Armenia in the late 80s - early 90s of the last century. As a result, the majority ended up in Russia.
      2) If it’s not a secret, why to Russia, and not to Kyrgyzstan or Kazakhstan? Or in the USA, which is even better. An example of the resettlement of Meskhetian Turks from Russia is still in memory.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 2 2016 12: 06
      +8
      Quote: Talgat
      Azerbaijan, as we all understand, will be supported by Turkey - and then NATO

      There is a mistake, NATO will not support Azerbaijan.
      Because of NATO, an agreement on mutual assistance has not been signed with Turkey in the event of an attack on one of the countries, more precisely there is help, but there is no direct intervention of the armed forces. NATO blocks Turkey in this decision.
      Quote: Talgat
      Sometimes I think. Russia and Armenia may need to negotiate conditions with Azerbaijan (neutral status - non-deployment of Turkish or NATO forces, pipeline routes, some kind of geopolitical or economic benefits, etc.)

      Azerbaijan has chosen a neutral status, there are even no thoughts about the deployment of foreign forces, and pipelines have already been built.
      But if NPOs and 7 districts around NPOs are returned, Azerbaijan will host the Russian base.
      1. co-creator
        co-creator April 2 2016 13: 01
        +1
        Eraz so was the offensive and the counteroffensive then? What really happened there?
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 2 2016 13: 28
          +11
          Quotation: blooded man
          Eraz so was the offensive and the counteroffensive then? What really happened there?

          Nobody knows that.
          About 100 military men from both sides die there every year.

          And each time Azerbaijan declares that Armenia opened fire and as a result of return fire the aggressor was silent.
          Also, Armenia claims Azerbaijan opened fire and shuts up with return fire)))

          Therefore, the reports are completely different throughout the conflict period. Only those who are in the trenches know.
      2. ultra
        ultra April 2 2016 18: 49
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        , Azerbaijan will host Russia's base.

        Why do we need a base in Azerbaijan?
    3. ultra
      ultra April 2 2016 18: 49
      +1
      Quote: Talgat
      resettle all Armenians from there to Armenia or Russia

      And if they do not want?
    4. Seal
      Seal April 3 2016 00: 58
      +1
      NGO - resettle all Armenians from there to Armenia or Russia
      Foolish !!! And let’s you better place them in yourselves, eh? We already know that in the Krasnodar and Stavropol Territories there’s nowhere to spit, so as not to get into the Armenian.
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec April 2 2016 10: 19
    +8
    It looks like Azerbaijan began to conduct a destructive policy. It moved away somewhere in the wrong place and "climbs into the bottle." There are countries: they know what they will get and still crawl under their fists.
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch April 2 2016 11: 02
      +5
      Quote: dchegrinec
      .Got off somewhere to the wrong place

      Went away wassat We must call Klitschko ... lol
    2. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 2 2016 11: 07
      -6
      Listen smartass, since when has the liberation of your land become a destructive policy ??? !!!
  • Clueless
    Clueless April 2 2016 10: 23
    +9
    Actually, it was quite expected, or have you already forgotten that Americans were evacuated from Turkey? In this conflict, the Turks clearly could not do without Turks, they will obviously announce themselves soon, and then it starts.
    1. gg.na
      gg.na April 2 2016 14: 06
      0
      Quote: Bad
      Forgot that Americans were evacuated from Turkey? In this conflict, the Turks clearly could not do without Turks, they will obviously announce themselves soon, and then it starts.

      Everything is right! At first they whispered to Tihari (giving the EBCU Even More Valuable Instructions to the farther) with their farther they took them out quickly and they didn’t have any bribes from them! But the pedogan will be an entertainer, but at the direction of the partners! Something like this what !
  • Boz_canavar
    Boz_canavar April 2 2016 10: 23
    -3
    about the wet statements of the Armenians about the downed helicopter - they dreamed in a dream laughing
    1. Bruss
      Bruss April 2 2016 11: 39
      +7
      But could you briefly explain what the essence of the problem is? Why is this territory controversial? I heard the Armenian version, now I would like to hear the Azerbaijani!
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 April 2 2016 13: 29
        -1
        This territory was annexed by the Persian Empire in Armenia in the 4th century, when the Turks were not at all close. After the invasion of the Turks, they spread to the northern part of Azerbaijan and the territory of historical Armenia itself.
    2. garnik64
      garnik64 April 2 2016 13: 19
      0
      Already 2 helicopters, 2 UAVs were shot down, and 2 tanks were shot down.
      1. Yegorchik
        Yegorchik April 2 2016 14: 10
        +3
        Quote: garnik64
        Already 2 helicopters, 2 UAVs were shot down, and 2 tanks were shot down.

        Has the Azerbaijani aircraft carrier been sunk or have just surrounded its submarines? laughing
        Star, but you should know the measure, otherwise you’ll hit the whole army of Azerbaijan in 2 days on the Internet. stop
        1. garnik64
          garnik64 April 3 2016 00: 43
          0
          Well, that’s fun .. Read the comment from ultra above. He got ahead of me. I’ve been mistaken for 3 tanks already.
      2. atalef
        atalef April 2 2016 14: 13
        +3
        Quote: garnik64
        Already 2 helicopters, 2 UAVs were shot down, and 2 tanks were shot down.

        1. garnik64
          garnik64 April 2 2016 18: 14
          +1
          After all, they can not be dragged by the Jews with the Turks. Two fraternal people, before the arrival of Erdogan.
    3. garnik64
      garnik64 April 2 2016 18: 10
      +1
      Watch Russian television.
    4. ultra
      ultra April 2 2016 18: 50
      +3




      The Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense reported that 12 Azerbaijani soldiers were killed in battles with Armenian troops in Nagorno-Karabakh. An Azerbaijani Mi-24 helicopter was shot down and a tank was blown up by a mine.
      Trend News Agency reports that six Armenian tanks, 15 artillery installations, as well as fortified engineering structures, were destroyed in battles.
      “More than 100 military personnel of the Armenian armed forces were destroyed and wounded,” the agency claims.
      The army of the unrecognized Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, in turn, said that the Azerbaijani troops lost two helicopters, two drones and three tanks.
    5. avt
      avt April 2 2016 22: 13
      +1
      Quote: Boz_Canavar
      about the wet statements of the Armenians about the downed helicopter - they dreamed in a dream

      They posted the video from the crash site, and yours confirmed that there was no objective control over the tanks for anyone. Well now, include that they themselves shot down theirs. Yes - yours already in Contact with a severed head took a picture and laid out, the Armenians showed your entire 200s, not dismembered.
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  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 2 2016 10: 24
    +11
    This is the result of Aliyev’s communication (there has long been a difference with senior Aliyev) with representatives of the US State Department, plus the active work of the Turkish special services, which feel at home in Azerbaijan. Personally, my soul lies with Armenia.
    1. rom8726
      rom8726 April 2 2016 10: 59
      +10
      and I have no soul for any of the "grateful" neighbors. We came here back in the 199s from the same Karabakh, they gather in flocks, walk in crowds, behave like owners and squeeze business
    2. Bruss
      Bruss April 2 2016 11: 37
      +1
      It’s not so simple!
  • Viktor fm
    Viktor fm April 2 2016 10: 25
    +3
    This news will be worse than similar Syrian.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 2 2016 10: 27
    +11
    It seems that the Turks are setting fire to the region. They inspired the Azerbaijanis that it was time to try. In Azerbaijan, the financial crisis, the best way to distract the population - a small victorious war? Someday we will find out the real background of events. But obviously not now.
    1. Boz_canavar
      Boz_canavar April 2 2016 10: 36
      -17%
      no one inspired us, Nagorno-Karabakh will be cleared of all gangs of formations.
      1. Redfox3k
        Redfox3k April 2 2016 10: 58
        +8
        My minus. Kiev thinks the same about the LPNR. Before talking about "bandit formations", think first of all about the people inhabiting NGOs. I certainly understand that you are from Azerbaijan, I understand your jingoistic patriotism, but cool it down. Turn on your head, who needs your hurray-patriotism today and for what.
        1. Otshelnik
          Otshelnik April 2 2016 11: 14
          -5
          Let’s cool down, but we’ll free our lands from the beginning !!! Yes, we would also have to avenge all the meannesses of the last 100-150 years ...
          1. Retvizan 8
            Retvizan 8 April 2 2016 12: 01
            +9
            Bold statements. It only seems to me that you are sitting somewhere warm in a cozy sofa, and not in a trench near the borders of NK?
            1. ultra
              ultra April 2 2016 18: 54
              +1
              Quote: Retvizan 8
              Only surrenders to me you sit somewhere warm

              And I’m just so sure of it! Kizdet not tossing bags! laughing
          2. ultra
            ultra April 2 2016 18: 53
            0
            Quote: Otshelnik
            Let’s cool down, only from the beginning we will free our lands!

            Are you already standing in line at the draft board? wink
      2. atalef
        atalef April 2 2016 10: 59
        -8
        Quote: Boz_Canavar
        no one inspired us, Nagorno-Karabakh will be cleared of all gangs of formations.

        Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 April 2 2016 11: 05
          +40
          Quote: atalef
          Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.

          Like it not, but Israel is the territory of Palestine, Jordan and Syria!
          1. Boz_canavar
            Boz_canavar April 2 2016 11: 18
            -11%
            whatever you say, Jews are the original inhabitants of this region, when there were no Arabs in the project either hi
            1. rotmistr60
              rotmistr60 April 2 2016 11: 36
              +26
              You probably don't know the Old Testament at all, especially the Book of Exodus. You probably need to remind that the exodus of the Jews (slaves) was from Egypt (according to you, "then there were no Arabs in the project"). What happened next in my opinion is not worth explaining to you, tk. useless.
            2. alicante11
              alicante11 April 2 2016 14: 24
              +2
              whatever you say, Jews are the original inhabitants of this region, when there were no Arabs in the project either


              Like it or not, this is not about antiquity, what was there at all, figs knows, some say that there was a Mongol-Tatar invasion, others say lies, but about the times when international law was already in force.
              1. atalef
                atalef April 2 2016 14: 33
                -2
                Quote: alicante11
                but about the times when international law was already in force.

                those. The Budapest memorandum and recognition of the borders of Ukraine and Russia (each other) --- was before international law?
                Further about international law and Palestine --- can you give more details?
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null April 2 2016 14: 35
                  +5
                  Quote: atalef
                  Budapest memorandum

                  Alexander, hi

                  Do not make me funny .. memo randum - this is about nothing ..
                  1. atalef
                    atalef April 2 2016 15: 00
                    -1
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Don’t make me funny .. memo randum is nothing.

                    They don’t put signatures on anything and they don’t give state guarantees
                    Memorandum on security guarantees in connection with the accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (Budapest Memorandum) - interstate document guaranteeing compliance with the provisions of the CSCE Final Act, the UN Charter and the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons with respect to Ukraine as a non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty [3]. Signed on December 5, 1994 by the leaders of Ukraine, USA, Russia and Great Britain.

                    France and China, two other parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, possessing nuclear weapons at the time of the signing of the Budapest Memorandum, provided similar guarantees by making the relevant statements, but did not put their signatures on this document
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null April 2 2016 15: 04
                      +7
                      Quote: atalef
                      They don’t put signatures on anything and they don’t give state guarantees

                      And they write the words on the fence .. Alexander, it’s not for me to explain the difference between the memorandum (protocol of intentions, type), and the Agreement .. for example wink
                    2. andj61
                      andj61 April 2 2016 15: 31
                      +2
                      Quote: atalef
                      They don’t put signatures on anything and they don’t give state guarantees

                      Is the network an annex to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons? It cannot be otherwise ... request
                      Therefore, it is necessary to ratify it by the signatory parties. But the most surprising, both Russia and Ukraine have not ratified this memorandum.
                      That is, there are two options:
                      1. The memorandum is in itself - but then this is a protocol of intent and it is not necessary to legally implement it.
                      2. Memorandum is an annex to the contract. But since it has not been ratified by the parties, it has not entered into force and it is not necessary to fulfill it either.
                    3. ultra
                      ultra April 2 2016 19: 01
                      0
                      Quote: atalef
                      They don’t put signatures on anything and they don’t give state guarantees

                      There are no special international guarantees for Ukraine giving it any special rights that distinguish it from the rights of, say, Russia. Such a document existed, it was signed by the Russian president. But the fact is that this “Memorandum” is not an international treaty, because it does not have and never had a legally binding force: the parliaments of the guarantor countries (not only Russia) did not ratify it.
                2. alicante11
                  alicante11 April 2 2016 15: 31
                  +1
                  those. The Budapest memorandum and recognition of the borders of Ukraine and Russia (each other) --- was before international law?


                  And what does Russia and Ukraine have to do with it? I spoke about the claims of the Jews in Palestine.
                3. ultra
                  ultra April 2 2016 18: 57
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  Budapest memorandum and recognition of the borders of Ukraine and Russia

                  Yeah, and the country of the GDR was, a member of the UN, by the way, and annexed by the state to a member of NATO, without any referendum. laughing
                4. avt
                  avt April 2 2016 22: 18
                  +2
                  Quote: atalef
                  Further about international law and Palestine --- can you give more details?

                  Since when? From the statement of Barak Khuseinovich that Israel should return to the borders of 1968, or from the moment Gromyko shouted at the UN to the Arabs to leave the sector for the state cut to the Jews by the decision of the UN Security Council? Type two were planned in the mandated territory of the shaved, well, which before leaving Menahen Begin blew up in the hotel "King David".
            3. ziqzaq
              ziqzaq April 2 2016 16: 16
              +1
              Quote: Boz_Canavar
              whatever you say, Jews are the original inhabitants of this region, when there were no Arabs in the project either

              I advise you to read about the Semites .....
            4. ultra
              ultra April 2 2016 18: 55
              +1
              Quote: Boz_Canavar
              these are the original inhabitants of this land,

              Well, if so, then the Turks are not the original inhabitants of these parts!
          2. atalef
            atalef April 2 2016 11: 52
            -3
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: atalef
            Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.

            Like it not, but Israel is the territory of Palestine, Jordan and Syria!

            Did Jesus tell you that? wink
            Although he forgot, he was an ancient ukr.
            1. andj61
              andj61 April 2 2016 15: 35
              0
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Stas157
              Quote: atalef
              Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.
              Like it not, but Israel is the territory of Palestine, Jordan and Syria!
              Did Jesus tell you that?

              Now we are not even talking about Karabakh. The fighting is on the territory of Azerbaijan itself, which has long been occupied by the Armenians.
              And as for Palestine - historically this was the name of ALL this territory - and present-day Syria, and Jordan and Israel, and Lebanon, and the current "Palestinian" enclaves.
          3. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN April 2 2016 15: 15
            +2
            Quote: Stas157
            Quote: atalef
            Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.

            Like it not, but Israel is the territory of Palestine, Jordan and Syria!

            fellow good laughing It is very interesting to hear the answer from Israel. Only Moses should not be touched.
        2. An60
          An60 April 2 2016 11: 49
          0
          Look at yourself and silently give it back, then comment.
        3. alicante11
          alicante11 April 2 2016 14: 22
          +5
          Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.


          Just like the Golan - the territory of Syria.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 2 2016 14: 36
            -5
            Quote: alicante11
            Just like the Golan - the territory of Syria.

            Since when ? More precisely, from what year?
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 April 2 2016 15: 32
              +1
              Since when ? More precisely, from what year?


              Since the same year, as the NKAR - the territory of Azerbaijan.
            2. ultra
              ultra April 2 2016 19: 02
              +4
              Since the formation of the SAR in the current (internationally recognized) borders.
              1. atalef
                atalef April 2 2016 21: 39
                -4
                Quote: ultra
                Since the formation of the SAR in the current (internationally recognized) borders.

                That is, since 1946 laughing
                And who gave them the Golan? England and France, first dividing the remnants of the Ottoman Empire, and then mandated by England?
                And it’s strange why. is the Golan Heights (like the Syrian) - called the Golan?
                Archaeological excavations that began back in the late 2th century and became systematic only after the Six Day War have uncovered many architectural monuments that testify to the existence of a large Jewish population there, at least from the time of Herod I to the Arab conquest in the XNUMXth century. The ruins of synagogues, columns with images of Jewish symbols and with inscriptions in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek were found in the villages of Hamat-Gader, Khirbet-Kanaf, Kafr-Kharib, the city of Katzrin and in many other places [XNUMX].

                Learn the story. Syria is related to the Golan, less than Ukraine to the Crimea.
                1. Seal
                  Seal April 3 2016 01: 08
                  +1
                  Archaeological excavations that began back in the late 2th century and became systematic only after the Six Day War have uncovered many architectural monuments that testify to the existence of a large Jewish population there, at least from the time of Herod I to the Arab conquest in the XNUMXth century. The ruins of synagogues, columns with images of Jewish symbols and with inscriptions in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek were found in the villages of Hamat-Gader, Khirbet-Kanaf, Kafr-Kharib, the city of Katzrin and in many other places [XNUMX].


                  http://rg.ru/2014/04/30/biblia-site.html

                  Professor Herzog stated: “These excavations led to the fact that it became clear that the Israelites had never been to Egypt, never roamed the desert, never conquered the land to later hand it over to the Twelve Tribes of Israel. None of the central events in Jewish history was confirmed the outcome, for example, could concern only a few families, whose history was then expanded and "nationalized" for theological reasons. "



                  A professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Lee Levin, wrote in his essay “Biblical Archeology”: “Egyptian sources do not mention the presence of Jews in this country ... Evidence of the conquest and settlement of the land of Canaan is as contradictory as the territory that included Israel in ancient times” (link on L. Levin was given by Michael Messing in The New York Times).
                  And here is the opinion of two more archaeologists: the head of the Department of Archeology at Tel Aviv University Israel Finkelstein and the archeologist and historian Neil Asher Zilberman. They claim that during the time of David and Solomon there was no kingdom, and the Old Testament itself was compiled much later, three hundred years later. The purpose of the compilation was the desire to create a national identification of Jews. Jerusalem at the time of David was a "poor village." And David himself should be considered, if not a fictional character, then a seedy tribal leader, who for some unknown reason was turned many centuries later by Jewish historiographers into the ancestor of the great dynasty.
        4. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN April 2 2016 15: 14
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.

          "If this is your land, fight!" - A.G. Lukashenko
          The times of balobolstvo are evidently gone. The time has come to pour blood on the earth, moreover, all over the world. But was it earlier, as otherwise, that territorial disputes were different?
        5. ultra
          ultra April 2 2016 18: 54
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.

          De jure yes, de facto no.
      3. Victorio
        Victorio April 2 2016 11: 01
        +6
        Quote: Boz_Canavar
        no one inspired us, Nagorno-Karabakh will be cleared of all gangs of formations.


        Ukrainians say the same about Donbass
      4. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch April 2 2016 11: 06
        +2
        That is, the full-scale hostilities with a very unpredictable outcome and very predictable losses do not bother you?
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null April 2 2016 18: 56
          0
          Quote: Semyon Semyonich
          full-scale fighting

          full-scale - on the scale of Nagorno-Karabakh?

          Sneakers do not tell .. strategists, whip ..

          Either a helicopter was shot down, or not .. chamomile, damn it ..
      5. Neogumanoyd
        Neogumanoyd April 2 2016 11: 23
        +1
        This is a serious statement! Do you think this is something more than another aggravation ??? You would not argue with fools, but it would be better if you would explain what is happening now .. I feel you know something ....
      6. ultra
        ultra April 2 2016 18: 52
        0
        Why aren't you at the forefront? laughing
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  • Million
    Million April 2 2016 10: 39
    +3
    I think this business could not have done without the Americans.
  • Yarik
    Yarik April 2 2016 10: 45
    +2
    We urgently need to cancel the arrangement of the mosque at Kuznets. laughingTo arrange a synagogue in revenge. laughing
  • slava5553
    slava5553 April 2 2016 10: 48
    +4
    The nuclear security summit has passed, instructions from the "big boss" have been received. In what other place did Uncle Sem give the go-ahead for the war?
  • igorra
    igorra April 2 2016 10: 49
    +7
    It’s called Aliyev traveled to the USA, received support and forward. The son is not at all a father; he has fallen far from seeing a peach.
    1. Boz_canavar
      Boz_canavar April 2 2016 10: 56
      +10
      influential Armenian diaspora in the United States - I will open my eyes to you - the United States supports Armenians, where the president of Armenia is now - in the United States at the summit (like your ally) winked
      1. garnik64
        garnik64 April 2 2016 11: 21
        0
        Where is your president? You are right about the United States; they are not interested in defeating Armenia.
        1. Boz_canavar
          Boz_canavar April 2 2016 11: 47
          +2
          Well, we understand this, but what does your strategic ally Armenia do at this decaying summit in the USA? hi
      2. co-creator
        co-creator April 2 2016 13: 08
        +1
        Quote: Boz_Canavar
        influential Armenian diaspora in the usa - I will open my eyes to you - the usa supports Armenians,

        I agree. Moreover, I’m even sure that they advised the United States to leave the base in Armenia in the 90s of the Russian Federation. They kicked us from everywhere, but for some reason they left us and did not speak a word against it. For good Putin, it was necessary to curtail the base slowly back in the mid-2000s. but unfortunately, the Russian Federation also has a large Armenian lobby, and we did not have our own independent foreign policy.

        Armenians do not care about the Russian Federation and we actually "protect" them on the initiative of the same USA.
      3. ultra
        ultra April 2 2016 19: 03
        0
        Quote: Boz_Canavar
        at the summit (supposedly your ally)

        He is an ally, not a vassal. laughing
    2. Seal
      Seal April 3 2016 01: 09
      0
      Armenians communicate with the Yankees
      From the report on lobbying in the USA for 2014.
      In total, in 2014 more than $ 5 billion was spent on lobbying in America. So, Congress took 2,1 billion from lobbyists, and the US Chamber of Commerce received $ 170 million. The five leading companies that spent the largest amount of funds on foreign policy lobbying include: Squire Patton Boggs ($ 17), Akin, Gump et al ($ 755), Podesta Group ($ 000), Brownstein , Hyatt et al ($ 17), and Holland & Knight ($ 150). Big changes have also occurred in the Top 000 leading ethno-lobbying influence groups. The US-Israel Social Affairs Group has maintained a leading position. The Israeli lobby has obtained from Congress not only an increase in external allocations amid a general budget cut, but also the allocation of $ 12 million to improve the Iron Dome missile defense systems.

      The second line is still kept by the Armenian National Committee of America, which, compared to last year, has noticeably increased. So, in the group of Armenian affairs of the Congress today are 113 legislators against 92 in 2013. In addition, members of the Armenian caucus are the chairmen of the following committees: on international affairs (the House of Representatives and the Senate), on external allocations (the House of Representatives and the Senate) and the leader of the Democratic majority of the Senate. The Armenian lobby managed to maintain the US government’s allocation of gratuitous financial assistance to Armenia and the NKR, lobby the California state to adopt a resolution recognizing the NKR’s independence, as well as the adoption by the Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs of the "Act in support of justice on the Armenian Genocide" and the "Return of Christian Confiscated Christian Turkey shrines. "

      The problem for the Armenians is that Azerbaijan is now very good friends with Israel. Therefore, the Israeli lobby in the US Congress supports whom? And the Israeli lobby is almost twice as strong as the Armenian one!
      Armenia is an ally only to itself. And she listens exclusively to the States. Since it is the States that allocate money for the maintenance of Karabakh. And Armenia falls no less than from us. Therefore, this our "ally" has not yet recognized and does not recognize that Crimea is Russia. Afraid that the States will be weaned from the trough.
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov April 2 2016 10: 52
    +8
    Where are you, USSR !? The spotted reptile has heaped up so much that the devils of the ages can not, even though again unite everyone in the USSR, and Joseph Vissarionych with Lavreny Palych in the characters, I represent the "concern" of the "partners"
  • Stas157
    Stas157 April 2 2016 10: 55
    +10
    Quote: Boz_Canavar
    no one inspired us, Nagorno-Karabakh will be cleared of all gangs of formations.

    Zombie said!))) The war in Karabakh is the road to nowhere! This is a disaster for Azerbaijan! Nobody needs it except the USA and Turkey! The alignment of forces is clearly not on the side of Azerbaijan! Russia will be forced to intervene. Do not be a pawn in the wrong hands.
    1. Otshelnik
      Otshelnik April 2 2016 11: 17
      -8
      Well, do not bother us on the hike to anywhere !!! And keep your "worries" with you!
    2. Yegorchik
      Yegorchik April 2 2016 11: 37
      +3
      Why zombies? Why do you begin to call a person who has his own point of view different from yours? For him, this is a war for his land seized by the occupiers and he is a patriot of his country as you are his own. And why should Russia intervene? This conflict does not fit the CSTO treaty, or do you seriously think that the Armenians are allies of Russia? The Armenians are situational clings for the most part oriented to the West and sucking the udder of Russia only because their country is strategically NATO is not needed in FIG.
      1. Boz_canavar
        Boz_canavar April 2 2016 11: 52
        +2
        Thank you for your objectivity Igor hi
    3. atalef
      atalef April 2 2016 11: 43
      -3
      Quote: Stas157
      The war in Karabakh is the road to nowhere! This is a disaster for Azerbaijan!

      They want to return their territories. The road to nowhere happened when Armenians squeezed these territories from Azerbaijan.
      Quote: Stas157
      The alignment of forces is clearly not on the side of Azerbaijan

      It’s just on his side, but I think it’s not going to end with anything.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 April 2 2016 13: 54
        +5
        Quote: atalef
        They want to return their territories. The road to nowhere happened when Armenians squeezed these territories from Azerbaijan.

        Yes, Azerbaijan as a state has never been, but Armenia is a centuries-old state whose lands occupied the territory of modern Azerbaijan right up to the Caspian.
        Quote: atalef
        It’s just on his side, but I think it’s not going to end with anything.

        If a serious war begins (which I think Russia will not allow) between Azerbaijan and Armenia, Russia will not be able to stay away.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 2 2016 14: 17
          +2
          Quote: Stas157
          but Armenia is a centuries-old state whose lands occupied the territory of modern Azerbaijan right up to the Caspian.

          And in what period of history was this ?? I’m just curious to know about your data)))
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 April 2 2016 16: 30
            +3
            Quote: Yeraz
            And in what period of history was this ?? I’m just curious to know about your data)))

            Yes, this is not my data! There is more than enough data in the network if you dig in! Well, for example, this is what French historians say about Armenia and Azerbaijan, which are difficult to convict of bias:
            At 1,18 minutes, a map of ancient Armenia.
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            2. Seal
              Seal April 3 2016 01: 17
              +1
              As the adjutant of Pan Ataman Gritian Tavrichesky Papondopulus said in the film "Wedding in Malinovka" Take it, take it, I'll draw it for myself. " lol
              Now, if you had presented a GENUINE ancient map, then it would be a different matter.
              And so .. after all, the Catalan Atlas dating from 1375 AD is considered to be the oldest of the GENUINE maps that have survived to this day. Alas, nothing earlier in the originals has reached us (before the New Time). Try to find Armenia on it at all. Good luck searching hi
          2. garnik64
            garnik64 April 2 2016 18: 32
            -1
            Empire of Tigran the Great. How do you know about him. Your story begins from the 11th century. It is still loudly said. Specifically, your tribes of Akkoyuns, Kara-Koyuns appeared later.
            1. Seal
              Seal April 3 2016 01: 18
              0
              And yours not earlier. And Georgian too. The oldest of the GENUINE maps that have survived to this day is the Catalan Atlas, dating from 1375 AD. Alas, nothing earlier in the originals has reached us (before the New Time). Try to find Armenia on it at all. Good luck searching hi
        2. andj61
          andj61 April 2 2016 15: 45
          +1
          Quote: Stas157
          Yes, Azerbaijan as a state has never been, but Armenia is a centuries-old state whose lands occupied the territory of modern Azerbaijan right up to the Caspian.

          Yes, Armenia has never occupied the territory to the Caspian! The territory of present Antalya-Alania in Turkey was owned by the Armenian principality, and never by the coast of the Caspian Sea.
          And on the territory of Azerbaijan, and present Armenia, there were many different Turkic states that existed at the same time as Great Armenia, and even after it.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz April 2 2016 18: 00
            +2
            Quote: andj61
            Yes, Armenia has never occupied the territory to the Caspian!

            It is useless))) Now they will prove that the village of MyardakYAN near Baku is an ancient Armenian village))) Like ShuvalyAN)))
        3. ultra
          ultra April 2 2016 19: 08
          +1
          Quote: Stas157
          Yes, Azerbaijan as a state has never been, but Armenia is a centuries-old state whose lands occupied the territory of modern Azerbaijan right up to the Caspian.

          They didn’t occupy, the Armenian lands were in the territory of modern Turkey-Kars, Trebizond, territories in the area of ​​Lake Van. Actually, the Russian army liberated these territories in the 1st World War. But then a coup of 17 years did not happen, and they could overcome Constantinople.
        4. Seal
          Seal April 3 2016 01: 12
          0
          Yes, Azerbaijan as a state has never been, but Armenia is a centuries-old state whose lands occupied the territory of modern Azerbaijan right up to the Caspian.
          Excuse me, but can I ask you to present at least one written DOCUMENT left over from this "centuries-old" state, clearly dated "in the meantime"?
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 April 2 2016 14: 26
        +1
        They want to return their territories. The road to nowhere happened when Armenians squeezed these territories from Azerbaijan.


        Arabs also want to return their territories, for some reason this does not bother you.
      3. andj61
        andj61 April 2 2016 15: 40
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        They want to return their territories. The road to nowhere happened when Armenians squeezed these territories from Azerbaijan.
        Quote: Stas157
        The alignment of forces is clearly not on the side of Azerbaijan
        It’s just on his side, but I think it’s not going to end with anything.

        Armenia only "wrestled" Karabakh. But to ensure this squeezing out, it additionally occupied 20 percent of the territory of Azerbaijan. This is the road to nowhere.
        And according to the balance of power, here, in my opinion, it is clear to everyone: the army of Azerbaijan will be stronger now, but it will not see victory and both sides will wash it with blood. After all, losses in the offensive 3: 1 compared with the defenders. Yes, even in the mountains and in prepared positions.
        Here you just need to negotiate.
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    1. Redfox3k
      Redfox3k April 2 2016 11: 01
      +1
      Hard. Isn’t it easier to introduce a visa regime?
  • grandson of the hero
    grandson of the hero April 2 2016 11: 01
    +12
    Russia can’t turn aside from this conflict and stay away. Finding right or wrong is very difficult. The conflict is very old, and the roots are so general ...
    I'll tell you about one trip to Baku as part of an auto television column. On our side, we were immediately warned: "It is better for this not to cross the border (the man has an Armenian surname, but the Muscovite is in the third generation - his ancestors fled from the vicinity of Lake Van), they will stop you and he will simply be lost, forever. Do not risk it, he is there for about five minutes. "Ten and more anything, but nothing good." Already on the other side, at the customs, we got into a conversation with the long-range. Six months ago, he was carrying a cargo from Belarus to Iran. The sender has an Armenian surname, Polish citizenship. He lagged behind at the border for three days and was not allowed to go under various pretexts. And they warned: if you are going to balk, the cargo along with the truck will simply disappear, right here, at the customs ...
    But in the real incitement to the conflict there is not the slightest doubt in the direct assistance of the Turkish side.
  • Thompson
    Thompson April 2 2016 11: 04
    +8
    Apparently it's time to return Ararat!
    1. Boz_canavar
      Boz_canavar April 2 2016 11: 20
      +2
      who are the Armenians? laughing hi
      1. An60
        An60 April 2 2016 11: 51
        +2
        Well, not for you?
        1. atalef
          atalef April 2 2016 11: 57
          +2
          Quote: An60
          Well, not for you?

          So Ararat is kind of like in Turkey. request
          1. Bruss
            Bruss April 2 2016 11: 58
            +2
            Ararat specifically in Turkey! lol
          2. andj61
            andj61 April 2 2016 15: 48
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            So Ararat is kind of like in Turkey.

            bully 70s, Armenia. Real history. Guide: "Attention, on the right we can see the symbol of Armenia, the Great Ararat mountain, which is temporarily located in the territory of Turkey!" fellow
          3. ALEA IACTA EST
            ALEA IACTA EST April 2 2016 17: 43
            0
            Quote: atalef
            So Ararat is kind of like in Turkey.

            laughing
    2. co-creator
      co-creator April 2 2016 13: 12
      +13
      Quote: Thompson

      Thompson (1) Today, 11:04 am New
      Apparently it's time to return Ararat!

      DREAM OF THE ARMENIANS, THAT THE RUSSIANS WOULD CONQUER ARAAT FOR THEM AND HAVE GOT OUT THERE FROM THERE.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 2 2016 11: 13
    +3
    Quote: atalef
    Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.

    Did the atalef decide that again? Before writing this, I would talk with the Armenians. I hope that your brains would set a quick slider for you.
    1. Yegorchik
      Yegorchik April 2 2016 11: 39
      -2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Quote: atalef
      Like it or not, and the NKAR is the territory of Azerbaijan.

      Did the atalef decide that again?

      No, this is a statement of fact.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 April 2 2016 11: 44
        +3
        And who witnessed this fact? Do not tell me a citizen of Kazakhstan? Your avatar is certainly cool. Did you have to serve yourself?
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 April 3 2016 04: 50
          +1
          Quote: rotmistr60
          And who witnessed this fact?

          Is the UN enough? Or all countries to list including Russia?
  • Shark Lover
    Shark Lover April 2 2016 11: 26
    +5
    Aghdam direction ..... Remember, the barmatuha used to be Aghdam !!!
  • kalita
    kalita April 2 2016 11: 28
    +4
    Russia must again reconcile these freaks. Our bases are in Armenia and if anything, then Azerbaijanis will have to be tight.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 April 2 2016 11: 45
      +7
      However, again, the Azeris have superiority in the initial technique. They bought both MSTU, Tornadoes, and TOSs, and about 100 T-90CA, and about 100 Belarusian T-72 pumped up to SIM with an Israeli SLA, plus they have a lot of good city-like batch reloading (Turkish and Israeli) in the war in the mountains, it will work very, very well, they also have about 100 BTR-80А and about 100 BMP-3М - which, again, in the mountains will be a great help for mobile connections (Armenians have nothing to counter), and they have BMP-2 converted by Elbit with the installation of TPV and other sweets. Plus, the Azeris really have a lot of all kinds of Matadors, Gyurz and other Cobras - nevertheless, this is an armored and land-resistant vehicle, unlike UAZs of Armenia.

      Plus, the Armenian army has degraded in recent years, salaries are small, purchases on credit or as a gift, again in the last 1,5 years a whole chain of political crises and mass protests took place, which should also be taken into account. Unlike relative calm in Azerbaijan, active purchases of equipment, high salaries from the military, and generally the highest prestige of service, active combat training, both at home and abroad.

      That is, if the porridge really starts brewing, it’s not a fact that it will be possible to get by with the limited support of the Armenians. Plus, the Azeri had a really good anti-aircraft defense, C-300PMU + TORA + BARAK-8 + Pechora 2TM + any Wasp-Arrows in relief would be quite effective.

      By the way, there in Syria, the broads as if on command went on a large-scale offensive in South Aleppo.

      They took the key NP El Ace, the skyscraper and are now making their way to the Khan Fog - which could bring down the entire position of the Syrian Army. At the tip is Nusra, who has deployed troops from Idlib, Ahrar and Jeysh al-Tahrir. Most likely, they will have to be distracted and cast iron equalized. For there the front is held by the NDF, freshly formed units from those mobilized in Latakia and Homs, as well as Iraqi volunteers as cement.


  • Neogumanoyd
    Neogumanoyd April 2 2016 11: 35
    +8
    If this regional conflict develops into a full-fledged war, the Russian side will bear great responsibility and great financial losses. They are trying to exhaust us, having bogged down in conflicts in all directions. And for hot and stupid goals - imagine for a minute (purely hypothetically) the Armenian side has launched a full-scale attack on Azerbaijani territory, do you think Putin will not stop this ?, and will not return the sides to their original borders ???
    1. Anchonsha
      Anchonsha April 2 2016 11: 45
      +8
      Dear friend, where did you get that it was the Armenians who went on the offensive? Here it is just not profitable for them to start a war game.
  • v1tz
    v1tz April 2 2016 11: 38
    +12
    Why did the Communists at one time not leave Karabakh in Armenia: but they could easily do it. The Armenian roots there are much deeper after all, and the Karabakh khanate was formed there only in the 18th century and the migration of Turks there.
    1. TiGRoO
      TiGRoO April 2 2016 18: 20
      +3
      Because the Communists (including myself) were naive. Thought with mass education, the peoples will not be at enmity on the basis of nat-sign, but people are too easy to push against each other ...
      1. v1tz
        v1tz April 2 2016 19: 07
        0
        I agree ... in the Soviet period they were stuffed with territories who needed and not needed, including the territory of Ukraine, we thought everything would be one whole, but it turned out to be a "bomb".
    2. ultra
      ultra April 2 2016 19: 14
      0
      Quote: v1tz
      Why did the Communists in their time not leave Karabakh in Armenia:

      Yes, they tricked a lot of things.
      1. Yarik
        Yarik April 2 2016 21: 24
        0
        Communists, opportunists, masturbators and other -ists. And why not just leave it that way until it "settles down"?
    3. Seal
      Seal April 3 2016 01: 29
      +1
      How did Kartli Tsar Vakhtang VI justify himself to our Peter I, why he and other Georgian and Armenian kings and bastards did not come to our aid in 1722, when our troops occupied Derbent, starved in him, because the storm destroyed all our sea vessels with supplies .
      And he said that he walked, walked, but did not reach. Since he was forced to suppress the Lezghin uprising in Karabakh.

      So what follows from this?
      The first one. It is likely that in the beginning of the 18th century, Karabakh was under Georgian (Kartli) jurisdiction.
      The second one. At the beginning of the 18th century, Lezgins lived in Karabakh. Which at the most inopportune moment rebelled against Vakhtang VI Kartli.
  • akudr48
    akudr48 April 2 2016 11: 40
    +4
    It will be difficult for Russia to reconcile these proud princes, God forbid to intervene directly.

    Given the military operations in Syria, the fire in the Donbass, the troubled border with the Crimea, as well as the swelling Caucasus, this is exactly what their western progressive democratic community wants - to surround Russia with a ring of fire.

    In these conditions, Donbass and Crimea should be priorities for Russia!
  • Anchonsha
    Anchonsha April 2 2016 11: 44
    +9
    Well, Aliyev’s friends will not stop now and will push him to military operations for a long time. But in vain, only people will be killed. Now. that Baku, that in Nagorno-Karabakh, equal forces are pulled together and there will be only great losses without victories.
  • weksha50
    weksha50 April 2 2016 11: 48
    +8
    "It is hoped that the mind will prevail, and the authorities of both Armenia and Azerbaijan will stop the hostilities "...


    Yes, there is no hope there ... And this NGO will blaze there, passing from hand to hand in the time range ...

    This is lousy ... near our borders former citizens of the formerly once united country are fighting to death ...

    PS Someone once without thinking drew borders, and after the collapse of the USSR, all these problems were a spark for igniting the bonfire of war ...
  • Strashila
    Strashila April 2 2016 11: 48
    +5
    It’s just that Azerbaijan’s dependence on the cost of oil is several times higher than that of Russia ... the influx of money from Russia from migrant workers and the diaspora has dried up ... plus spring exacerbation after visiting Turkey.
  • vanavatny
    vanavatny April 2 2016 11: 51
    +5
    damn geography: forever we have that, “allies,” that their opponents do not cause anything with a stick between their ears. Armenians in general as an appendix: were we born with him or what?
    1. garnik64
      garnik64 April 2 2016 13: 43
      -12%
      Take the ARMENIAN from the profile picture.
      1. vanavatny
        vanavatny April 3 2016 02: 41
        +1
        the fool doesn’t understand the difference between Soviet, Armenian, Russian, Jewish men and I got a sickle in my head on the parade ground with a hammer I’m now from the officer’s funeral and I didn’t come to all of you and if the gdp says with blood I will wash your diasporas
        1. vanavatny
          vanavatny April 3 2016 03: 27
          0
          just argued and therefore forced to write: it is generally accepted that even among Armenians there are those who do not need to explain in detail what is conscience and honor
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  • MRomanovich
    MRomanovich April 2 2016 11: 59
    +7
    The American analytical agency predicted an aggravation of the conflict in the second quarter of 2016 and, according to the scenario, according to the information agencies, they shoot at the Armenian soldier on April 1, after which the Armenians shoot from mortars towards Azerbaijan, then a serious conflict begins with mutual accusations. I don’t know exactly what happened there and how serious the conflict was in fact over the past day and a half, as I am not inclined to believe news sites, but a pre-planned scenario is clearly played out that is not beneficial to either side. In my opinion, the conflict is beneficial to the smoked president and his minions from NATO countries. To many, my suspicion seems too straightforward and even dumb, but people like you and I do the politics — not smarter and not dumber, and Western politics has become so straightforward and predictable (due to impunity, permissiveness, a sense of superiority) that even you don’t need to think whose hands it is.
  • Eastern wind
    Eastern wind April 2 2016 12: 05
    +3
    Azerbaijan is pro-Turkish ... everything.
    1. Seal
      Seal April 3 2016 01: 31
      0
      Armenia is pro-American ... that's it.
      1. hrych
        hrych April 3 2016 10: 50
        0
        In terms of finances, pro-American and pro-French, in terms of militarism, pro-Russian (or is there a French base in Gyumri?), And economically pro-Iranian. So the state conducts the correct state policy in the interests of its people. Her existence and state policy fit into the spectrum of our interests. Now we are thrashing economically along cut-off Turkmenistan, forcing them to develop gas flows to the PRC, and not to the West (by the way, I think we agreed with the PRC). And Erdogan sees Turkmenistan and cries, but he can’t do anything. By the way, Armenia is another reason to quarrel NATO members, again lower the Turks, etc.
  • pts-m
    pts-m April 2 2016 12: 06
    -1
    Interesting. They’re fighting for what? Mountains are mountains. I don’t understand a meaningless slaughter. Or markets were not divided.
  • Otshelnik
    Otshelnik April 2 2016 12: 11
    +1
    Azerbaijani troops recaptured tactical heights from the Armenians in the Agderin direction. Details of the causes of the clashes between the Azerbaijani and Armenian forces on the front line in Karabakh became known to Haqqin.az.

    The Armenian troops opened fire on the eve of tactical heights in the Terter direction, from where they fired on the Azerbaijani civilian population. As a result of the counter-offensive actions of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces, these heights were repulsed from the enemy and now Terter’s civilian population is not in danger.
    http://haqqin.az/news/67144
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish April 2 2016 12: 13
    -9
    In principle, the logic of a normal ruler of Russia (not Putin) should be as follows - in Syria and Armenia we turn everything off, let them shoot each other until blue in the face, and focus on Ukraine.
    1. pigkiller
      pigkiller April 2 2016 12: 33
      +5
      Russia is being pushed towards this "logic" by the United States, which launched its Ukrainian project in 2014.
    2. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 12: 35
      +1
      Quote: Kibalchish
      In principle, the logic of a normal ruler of Russia (not Putin) should be as follows - in Syria and Armenia we turn everything off, let them shoot each other until blue in the face, and focus on Ukraine.

      It is the West that offers us that ... Oh, you sly c ... uuka! ))))) At you here how many! bully We will water everyone ...!
    3. Shpagolom
      Shpagolom April 2 2016 15: 41
      +3
      .... offer the position of an ostrich ... hide your head, but at this time in the ass are not afraid?
      ..Unfortunately (joyfully), the interests of the Russian Federation and in Syria ... Armenia ..... Ukraine .... and so on, because it is not Liechtenstein ....!
      ... Only in the case of Azerbaijan and Armenia of the Russian Federation it is impossible to categorically take any side, but only in the image of a peacemaker and arbiter!
    4. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST April 2 2016 17: 24
      0
      Quote: Kibalchish
      in Syria and Armenia we turn off all matters, let each other shoot at least until blue in the face, and focus on Ukraine.

      The NATO general would applaud while standing.
  • Koshak
    Koshak April 2 2016 12: 15
    +7
    Here is a map for information.
  • Chisayna
    Chisayna April 2 2016 12: 30
    +1
    Where's Yeraz? Probably feverishly packing his bags to leave for his historic homeland?
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz April 2 2016 13: 31
      +7
      Quote: Chisain
      Where's Yeraz? Probably feverishly packing his bags to leave for his historic homeland?

      I’m here and willingness to fly at the Highest Level. You don’t worry about me. I should at least die meaningfully defending my homeland and Muslim lands and should be in paradise (although I didn’t think about it, but not a bad bonus) Another question is whether you want to be there die for the Armenians, if so then I will be on the other side)))
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 April 2 2016 17: 10
        +2
        Quote: Yeraz
        Do you want to die there for the Armenians, if so then I will be on the other side)))

        Do not even hope! Russia, if anything, is unlikely to send its ground forces, but will act remotely! No-fly zone, precision weapons, etc. Azerbaijanis will have no chance! But, I want to reassure you, Russia will do everything so that the conflict does not develop into a large-scale war!
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 2 2016 18: 02
          0
          Quote: Stas157
          Do not even hope!

          and I do not want to hope.
          Quote: Stas157
          But, I want to reassure you, Russia will do everything so that the conflict does not develop into a large-scale war!

          This will happen according to the policy of Russia will be such as there are changes I do not see.
          But right now, yes, I will not return further to the growth of the conflict.
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 April 2 2016 18: 25
            +5
            Quote: Yeraz
            This will happen according to the policy of Russia will be such as there are changes I do not see.
            But right now, yes, I will not return further to the growth of the conflict.

            I think that will not happen. Because relations with large and rich Azerbaijan are much more important for Russia than with poor little Armenia. Yes, and simply because Russia does not need this conflict in general! These two fraternal peoples fought with us in the Great Patriotic War, together we broke the ridge of the fascist invaders! This is not forgotten! I am sure Putin will agree with Aliyev.
            1. ultra
              ultra April 2 2016 19: 18
              0
              Quote: Stas157
              Because relations with large and rich Azerbaijan are much more important for Russia

              Dear, you probably have little contact with representatives of these diasporas in Russia. Azerbaijan is very (to put it mildly) strong about Turkish sentiment, including in the Russian diaspora.
              1. Seal
                Seal April 3 2016 01: 34
                +1
                . Azerbaijan is very (to put it mildly) strong about Turkish sentiments, including in the Russian diaspora.
                A rare and even the rarest Armenian family has no relatives in the United States. Including Russian Armenians.
  • Aleksey11
    Aleksey11 April 2 2016 12: 32
    +4
    If you look at the map, it is obvious that a military conflict is inevitable. Therefore, Armenia and Azerbaijan need to make a compromise. In my opinion, this may be a concession of territories, as a result of which Azerbaijan receives a "passage" in the south and recognizes part of the territory of Karabakh for Armenia. The ratio of the proportions of the received territories is already a question of the Peace negotiations.
    1. Lexeus
      Lexeus April 2 2016 13: 10
      +5
      YES the Azerbaijanis do not need peace now and the land is not in the land, Istanbul is gearing, and he needs a fire in the region to draw Russia into yet another mess.