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Union of Russia and Belarus - to be. The Day of Unity of Russia and Belarus

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Twenty years ago, on April 2, 1996, took place historical event - the presidents of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus Boris Yeltsin and Alexander Lukashenko signed an agreement on the creation of the Community of Russia and Belarus. Five years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the political elites of the two states came to the conclusion that it was necessary to start integration processes in the post-Soviet space. Russia and Belarus, as the two culturally closest states and economically closely related states, developed close ties with each other even within the framework of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), both in the economy, in culture, and in the military sphere. The idea of ​​creating the Union State belonged to the President of Belarus Alexander Grigorievich Lukashenko. It was he who at that time was the most consistent supporter of the integration of the two states.


When, in 1994, Mr. Lukashenko came to power in the sovereign Belarus, becoming its first president, he inherited a rapidly impoverished and unstable country. On the one hand, in Belarus, as well as in Ukraine, nationalistic sentiments, spurred by the West, grew. For many years, the Belarusian nationalists became the most important opponents of the rapprochement of Minsk with Moscow, while the Western media strenuously sought to present their activities as an example of opposition to opposition to the “Lukashenko dictatorship”. On the other hand, Alexander Lukashenko himself proved to be a consistent supporter of the revival of the Belarusian economy and the creation of a strong state, able to defend its interests and pursue an independent foreign and domestic policy. For the middle 1990-s. it was amazing - even then huge Russia was oriented towards the West, and the United States and the countries of Western Europe were called nothing but the most important partners.

Union of Russia and Belarus - to be. The Day of Unity of Russia and Belarus


However, already in the middle of 1990's. began to outline some changes in the policy of the Russian state. 21 February The 1995 Treaty was concluded on friendship, good-neighborliness, and cooperation between Russia and Belarus. After its signing of 26 in May of 1995 in the Belarusian village of Rechka, which is on the border of the Vitebsk and Smolensk regions, the border pillar was solemnly dismantled, marking the border between the two states. It was a symbolic action that entailed further measures towards the integration of the two states. In the same 1995, the Treaty on the Customs Union was signed between Russia and Belarus. After that, the tariff legislation and the fiscal and monetary policies of the Russian and Belarusian states were unified, which facilitated further trade and economic cooperation between the countries.

A year later, 2 April 1996, an agreement was signed on the formation of the Community of Belarus and Russia. The date of its signing has since been marked as the day of unity of the Russian and Belarusian peoples and the day of the creation of the Union State. Officially, the goal of the agreement was to unite the intellectual and material potentials of Belarus and Russia in the mutual interests of the two states. First of all, the Community assumed the formation of a single economic space, a gradual transition to a single legislation. Since then, Russia and Belarus have agreed to coordinate their foreign policy, first of all, the positions of both countries on key issues of the international situation, and also to formulate a common policy in the direction of ensuring security, fighting crime, protecting state borders. 29 April 1996 in St. Petersburg, the heads of the parliaments of both countries signed an agreement on the creation of a Parliamentary Assembly of the Community of Russia and Belarus. However, this integration processes are not over. Exactly a year later, on April 2. 1997 in Moscow, the presidents of Belarus and Russia, Alexander Lukashenko and Boris Yeltsin, signed the Treaty on the Union of Belarus and Russia. This is how the supra-state formation appeared - the Union of Russia and Belarus (the Union of Belarus and Russia). A month and a half later, 23 in May 1997, the Charter of the Union of Belarus and Russia was signed, according to which the High Council and the Executive Committee of the Union of Russia and Belarus were created in the same 1997.



After signing the agreement on the creation of the Union of Russia and Belarus, work began to further strengthen the integration of the two states. First of all, the formation of the allied executive bodies and the federal budget began. The Union of Russia and Belarus has found its own Border and Customs Committees, the Security Committee. Each state - member of the Union, nevertheless, retains its own statehood, sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity. Russia and Belarus retained their own constitutions, emblems, state flags and other attributes of statehood, and their own armed forces. However, from this time on, every citizen of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus is at the same time a citizen of the Union of Russia and Belarus. Hence the following rights of Union citizens: free movement and permanent residence within the territories of two states, the right to protection in those states where there are no representative offices of Russia or Belarus, from the diplomatic institutions of one of the members of the Union. Especially valuable was the granting of the right to free movement and residence of citizens of the countries - members of the Union on the territory of both states. This greatly facilitated business opportunities and labor migration, first of all from Belarus to the Russian Federation.

In addition, citizens of both countries were given the opportunity to occupy positions in the system of executive bodies of the Union. But the integration of the two countries was not limited to these measures either. The next step towards the unification of Russia and Belarus was the decision to begin preparations for the creation of a union state. At the beginning of 1999, the development of a draft treaty on the creation of a Union State began, and in early October 1999, the draft treaties on the creation of a Union State of Russia and Belarus were published in the official press of both states. The purpose of the publication was a nationwide discussion of the draft treaty. For a month and a half, about one and a half million people - citizens of Russia and Belarus took part in the discussion; 1300 comments and suggestions were made.

The main feature of the newly created Union State of Russia and Belarus was the model of a new type of association, which is neither unitary nor federal. The Russian Federation is a federal state, and the Republic of Belarus is a unitary state, united in a unique state entity, within which they retained their state sovereignty and features of the political system. 8 December 1999 was signed the Treaty on the establishment of the Union State of Russia and Belarus. The goal of the treaty was to turn Russia and Belarus into a union state with a common economic and legal space, a single monetary unit, a common budget, a common defense system, and federal government bodies. It was assumed that the Union State will pursue a common foreign policy. However, each country - member of the Union State retained national constitutions, laws, government bodies, judicial bodies. An important point in the creation of the Union State was the possibility of new members joining the Union State, stated in the agreement - but only if they fully accept the obligations that the Agreement on the Union State imposes on its signatories. The Council of Ministers of the Union State was formed, which includes the Chairman of the Council of Ministers, the State Secretary of the Union State (as deputy chairman of the Council of Ministers), the chairmen of the Councils of Ministers of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, the ministers of foreign affairs, economics and finance of the member states, the heads of the main governing bodies Union State. The Council of Ministers of the Union State forms the Permanent Committee of the Union State. The latter, in turn, is directly the working body of the Supreme State Council and the Council of Ministers of the Union State.

The creation of the Union State was perceived with enthusiasm by a significant part of the Russian and Belarusian society. This idea was supported, first of all, by the leftist-patriotic forces, who saw in the integration processes for the creation of the Union State a chance for the revival of the power of the Soviet power. In addition, the Union State objectively improved the positions of both the Russian and Belarusian economies. Russia and Belarus were given the opportunity of unhindered access to each other’s commodity and labor markets. Russian left patriots were impressed by the personality of President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko, who looked charismatic and spectacular, especially against the background of the more elderly Boris Yeltsin, by the end of the 1990s. lost the support and sympathy of a large part of Russians. Many even preferred Alexander Lukashenko to be the head of state as a result of the further unification of Russia and Belarus.

The union state of Russia and Belarus was of interest to a number of other political subjects in the post-Soviet space. Thus, in 2001, Moldovan President Vladimir Voronin announced that he plans to organize the country's accession to the Union State, but over the next several years these plans remained unfulfilled. At 2005, Moldova announced its plans to become part of the European Union, which automatically signified a rejection of the prospective accession to the Union State. Separate Serbian politicians have also repeatedly declared the desired accession to the Union State, but no real action followed their words. The only states that actually took part in the integration processes were Abkhazia and South Ossetia. October 17 2008, the parliaments of Abkhazia and South Ossetia received the official status of permanent observers at the Parliamentary Assembly of the Union of Belarus and Russia

In 2000, integration processes gradually began to crack. First, the transition to the single currency of the Union State did not occur, although it was planned as early as 2004. Secondly, already in 2006, Russia raised the prices of gas exported to Belarus, and therefore Lukashenko complained about the desire Russia "absorb" the Belarusian state. But already in 2007-2008. integration processes have intensified again. From May 2008 to June 2012, the post of Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Union State of Russia and Belarus was held by the head of the Russian government, Vladimir Putin. However, in the 2010-ies. integration processes have been slowed down repeatedly, and contradictions have been growing between the two countries. First of all, they were associated with the tightening of requirements for products imported from Belarus. In addition, after the start of the 2013-2014 events. in Ukraine, Alexander Lukashenko, contrary to the expectations of Russia, did not take an openly pro-Russian position. He preferred to maintain neutrality, acting as a kind of arbiter between the Russian and Ukrainian sides.

Nevertheless, both Russia and Belarus remain the closest political, economic and military allies. The consequences of the creation of a union of the two countries twenty years ago are positively assessed by both Russian and Belarusian statesmen. Thus, the Prime Minister of Belarus Andrei Kobyakov in an interview with “RIA News"Called the creation of the Union State the most ambitious political integration event in the post-Soviet space. It was the creation of the Union of Russia and Belarus that gave impetus to the emergence of other integration structures in the post-Soviet space, such as the Customs Union, the Common Economic Space, the Eurasian Economic Union. It was in the Union of Russia and Belarus that the mechanisms of customs and economic integration that were very popular in the later integration projects in the post-Soviet space were tested. So, the Eurasian Economic Union largely inherits the principles that were laid down by the Union State. First of all, this refers to the customs relations of its member states, to the creation of the most favorable economic treatment for the countries - members of the Eurasian Economic Community. Despite all the difficulties that for understandable reasons - after all, every sovereign state, whether Russia or Belarus, also has its own economic interests, arises in relations between the two countries, the importance of such a structure as the Union of Russia and Belarus can hardly be overestimated.
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  1. Michael67
    Michael67 April 2 2016 00: 12
    +19
    The union of Russia and Belarus - to be. There is no doubt.
    The question is the degree of evacuation of the head.
    As they say - the game should be in all (02 pieces) of the gate, and not in one.
    The older brother will always understand, forgive, warm, sprinkle gingerbread ...
    But still ... The game should be mutually beneficial.
    And to the question of two chairs ... Nobody managed to sit on two.
    And it hurts to fall.
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS April 2 2016 00: 24
      +38
      I hope that we will be a single state, as well as 25 years ago.
      We simply have no other way out!
      from the bowels of tyrnet:
      “We are like three sisters in one apartment. Russia is the oldest, Belarus is the youngest, clever and hard-working, well, and Ukraine is beautiful, but walking, every three years there is a divorce, Maidan, a new man ...
      But we put up with it - dear, but then the black man brought it into the house, he says - their love, promised a beautiful life in Europe - glamor, but for now we need to register it with us and make a room for him, well, of course, we understand that this is a swindler - leads to a living space, we try to interfere, so she - a stupid dumb girl refused her family, considers us enemies, she thinks we are envious of her happiness with a black man.
      So we think, whether a whore, or an idiot ... "
      Read in full: http://yablor.ru/blogs/mi-kak-tri-sestri-v-odnoy-kvartire/4480193
      1. neo.
        neo. April 2 2016 01: 47
        +36
        the importance of such a structure as the Union of Russia and Belarus is difficult to overestimate.
        Still, I think that the "brothers" left their home. We became adult uncles. We made a choice.

        We became partners. Not even friends! They showed what they are capable of and how the "friend" relates to the "friend" and to Russia. And there is not and there was no senior, junior, ... Someone very cleverly and conveniently invented these definitions! And these "brothers" spit in the face. And Lukashenka too. Begging for loans, discounts, but when meeting with Poroshenko, he says that he does not agree with the annexation of Crimea by Russia, for example (in the back, while probably knowing the history). Does not fulfill oil contracts (just like Ukraine dodges, dodges, wants bearish discounts, only for itself). Russia helps as much as it can, within reasonable limits. But no, they think Russian money, DEMAND, SUSPENDED: "How much you have! Give us! Otherwise we will reward you. We will not give a damn about your anti-European sanctions, and" tolerant "products will be imported to you (using what you have done ( good) with us a single customs, that would be "as it is better"). We will simply "be friends" with tolerasts, if you don’t give money. In short, purely "fraternal" threats and blackmail, meanness!

        Therefore, it will not work to become a brother back.
        As well as after the divorce of the spouses, they do not get married back. (it happens rarely, but anyway - it's not about that.)
        Already everyone understood everything.
        Do not enter the same river twice!

        It has long been confirmed: "Russia has 2 ALLIES - the Army and the Navy !!!"

        The rest are partners!
        They can become friends, but friendship, trust must also be earned. Long. (especially after what was and is)
        And Brothers, freeloaders - NO!

        PS: More and more they will want to return (back to free brothers), tk. more and more they will understand that they have swallowed ("take as much sovereignty as you want!"), ate (or rather starved).

        And at the same time, resentment and shame for it will grow more and more. Accordingly - HATE!
        From love to hate one step. Ukraine made it.
        Belarus has 1 mm left. before touching the sole.
        I emphasize that EVERYONE sees that a step is being taken! Only they think that they can always return to their original position and no one of this type will notice. Or forgive, understand, forget.
        1. Tu-214R
          Tu-214R April 2 2016 08: 04
          +7
          Quote: neo.
          ... And Lukashenko too. Begging for loans, discounts, but at a meeting ...

          Belarus would like to buy Russian gas at $ 80 per thousand cubic meters
          http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2738394
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 April 2 2016 09: 38
            +10
            Quote: Tu-214P
            Belarus would like to buy Russian gas at $ 80 per thousand cubic meters

            And I would give them gas for nothing, but ... as part of Russia! smile
            1. Tu-214R
              Tu-214R April 2 2016 12: 26
              +11
              I wouldn’t. How would they be better than other regions of the Russian Federation so as not to pay for gas?
            2. Reserve officer
              Reserve officer April 2 2016 12: 31
              +10
              Russia and Belarus are one nation artificially divided during the treacherous criminal collapse of the USSR.
              But here is something I do not see any new Union. And I see many years of blackmail by Lukashenko and his habit of freebies.
              So the real association will be only within the framework of one country. As was the case with the USSR.
            3. No login
              No login April 2 2016 15: 39
              -3
              But what is it really for you?
              1. Corporal Valera
                Corporal Valera April 2 2016 19: 38
                +2
                Quote: No login
                But what is it really for you?

                The key word here is "market". A foul state with a population of 10 lamas is ridiculous. And we also do not hold out. You need at least 300 million. More is desirable. So, so that this very supremacy is not squeezed out of us, we need to integrate. And the more the better for everyone. You can, of course, try your luck with the Europeans. A matter of taste. Over there the Ukrainians have peremoga for peremoga. And how much suverenity! Mom, do not worry!
                21st century - a century of empires. The parade of sovereignty has ended
                1. No login
                  No login April 3 2016 10: 22
                  -2
                  Quote: Corporal Valera
                  Look at Ukrainians overworking overworking. And how much sovereignty!

                  They’ve been burying them for 2 years, but they still don’t die.
                  Quote: Corporal Valera
                  The key word here is "market". A foul state with a population of 10 lamas is ridiculous

                  And where is the market? And with how many people does the state, for you personally, stop being ridiculous?
                  It’s funny for me that in a country with 30% of all world wealth and with the largest territory, such a low standard of living and lawlessness in all its spheres, and people blame the US state depot for all this. It’s interesting how life will change in Belarus with the advent of a party of crooks and thieves? You give bad roads !? Give the cop, the lawlessness of the law !? We’ll cut the budget ahead of schedule !! Etc.
                  Corporal, since the site is visited by citizens of Belarus, I strongly recommend that you refrain from stupid sarcasms such as "frenzy". Well, in order to "reach 300" it is necessary that the well-being of the people grows, and not join left and right, ie. power should be for the people, not the people for power.
                  The population density of the Republic of Belarus is approx. 45 h / km., And the population of the Russian Federation 8,53 h / km. A sovereign state occupying 17,1 million km2 with a population of 146 million is ridiculous. Don't you find?
                  1. Corporal Valera
                    Corporal Valera April 3 2016 20: 07
                    0
                    Quote: No login
                    They’ve been burying them for 2 years, but they still don’t die.

                    Well then they’re doing fine yes You can for permanent residence.
                    Quote: No login
                    And with how many people does the state, for you personally, stop being ridiculous?

                    I wrote everything above. Do you duplicate?
                    Quote: No login
                    It’s funny for me that in a country with 30% of all world wealth and with the largest territory, such a low standard of living and lawlessness in all its spheres, and people blame the US state depot for all this

                    Yes, you are, directly, an expert on "all spheres" of Russia! Did a traffic cop who knows a FSB officer, who knows a FSB officer to whom Putin himself told you, told you?
                    Quote: No login
                    I wonder how life will change in Belarus with the advent of the party of crooks and thieves. You give bad roads !? Give the cop, the lawlessness of the law !? We’ll cut the budget ahead of schedule !! Etc.

                    laughing Hto ne jump that mo rock!
                    The population density of the Republic of Belarus is approx. 45 h / km., And the population of the Russian Federation 8,53 h / km. A sovereign state occupying 17,1 million km2 with a population of 146 million is ridiculous. Don't you find?

                    Hmm what What density do you characterize? So it is possible and even closer to get together, how does this affect the economy? Already gdp on pps bring something
                    Quote: No login
                    Corporal, since the site is visited by citizens of Belarus, I strongly recommend that you refrain from stupid sarcasms such as "frenzy".

                    You can strongly recommend that your wife cook soup (c) Putin
                  2. FM-78
                    FM-78 April 8 2016 21: 39
                    0
                    A miracle without name, you lived with us, felt all the chaos, felt all 30% of the world's wealth, and the terrifying low standard of living, and also felt the vast expanse of our homeland?
                    By the way, the funny thing is that you have such a population density that most of it is squeezed out into "Poor" Russia.
          2. onix757
            onix757 April 2 2016 11: 05
            0
            Quite right, given that pricing is tied to a buck.
            The price for Belarus at the beginning of 2014 was $ 165 per thousand cubic meters with a ruble exchange rate of 32-33 per dollar. In 2015, it was $ 142 with an average exchange rate of 60 rubles. Therefore, gas should cost about $ 80.
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 April 2 2016 11: 52
              +11
              Quote: onix757
              60 rubles. So gas should cost about $ 80.

              Since when is the gas price tied to the ruble exchange rate?
              It is tied to the price of oil. And given the fact that Belarus already bought gas and oil at special prices, it’s not worth clever. The price is determined by the market. Find where it is cheaper, then we will discuss prices
            2. Your friend
              Your friend April 2 2016 12: 05
              +7
              Quote: onix757
              Quite right, given that pricing is tied to a buck.
              The price for Belarus at the beginning of 2014 was $ 165 per thousand cubic meters with a ruble exchange rate of 32-33 per dollar. In 2015, it was $ 142 with an average exchange rate of 60 rubles. Therefore, gas should cost about $ 80.

              What nonsense. Let’s create your own gas company and sell gas to Belarus for at least $ 10.
              1. Cap.Morgan
                Cap.Morgan April 2 2016 19: 15
                +2
                Quote: Your friend
                Quote: onix757
                Quite right, given that pricing is tied to a buck.
                The price for Belarus at the beginning of 2014 was $ 165 per thousand cubic meters with a ruble exchange rate of 32-33 per dollar. In 2015, it was $ 142 with an average exchange rate of 60 rubles. Therefore, gas should cost about $ 80.

                What nonsense. Let’s create your own gas company and sell gas to Belarus for at least $ 10.

                And they give us potatoes and butter for free.
                Only hell wait.
        2. WKS
          WKS April 2 2016 09: 56
          +13
          Five years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, the political elites of the two states came to the conclusion that it was necessary to start integration processes in the post-Soviet space.

          Hypocrisy. Divorced instantly and with great joy. Five years later, it seems, they understood something. And for 20 years they continue to understand this, but are increasingly moving away from each other.
          Zhirinovsky is right enough to feed the cunning for free. An example of this is a meat grinder in Ukraine.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag April 3 2016 07: 07
            0
            Quote: wks
            Zhirinovsky is right enough to feed the cunning for free.

            Such areas to the queue will reach or the edges
        3. No login
          No login April 2 2016 15: 36
          +4
          Quote: neo.
          From love to hate one step. Ukraine made it.
          Belarus has 1 mm left. before touching the sole.

          Neo, take a look at the headings of articles on VO, analyze what you have written, and you will understand who hates whom.
          Quote: neo.
          It has long been confirmed: "Russia has 2 ALLIES - the Army and the Navy !!!"
          The rest are partners!

          Here I completely agree with you.
          Quote: neo.
          Russia helps as much as it can, within reasonable limits. But no, they think Russian money, DEMAND, FUCKED: "How much you have! Give us! Otherwise we will reward you. We will not give a damn about your anti-European sanctions, and" tolerant "products you import

          I don’t support the Belarusian government at all, but your thoughts about the scumbag neighbors, hypocrites, arrogantly coming to milk the decent, moral and disinterested rulers of Russia, look ridiculous. Give up. Nothing just comes out. Everything has a price.
        4. sa-ag
          sa-ag April 3 2016 07: 06
          0
          Quote: neo.
          It has long been confirmed: "Russia has 2 ALLIES - the Army and the Navy !!!"

          December 1991 confirmed?
      2. ruAlex
        ruAlex April 2 2016 09: 57
        +3
        I think the first and second
    2. The black
      The black April 2 2016 05: 48
      +8
      From time immemorial in the Slavic expanses
      Through the barriers of centuries, two people go.
      Consecrating its path with the Orthodox Cathedral,
      Proudly bear their joy and pain.
      Mother Earth has kept this holy bond,
      Now they can’t be taken away by anyone, never!
      Two great countries - Belarus and Russia -
      On Slavic land will always be together!
      The memory of past times was preserved by the peoples.
      Together they sowed bread and raised children,
      Together they beat the enemy, defending freedom,
      And they were proud of their love and friendship.
      Two great countries, like native sisters,
      They go through life to the earth's end.
      Belarusian blood flows in the heart of Russia,
      And Russian blood is in Belarusian hearts.
      1. Rarog
        Rarog April 2 2016 08: 37
        +7
        We are one people and one country. In this "good" poem at first glance, the idea of ​​our difference is traced, it is with such methods that they "unobtrusively" drum into us at the subconscious level that we are not a single ethnos - Divide and rule. It's time to stop promoting the idea of ​​dividing the Russian People.
        1. dmi.pris
          dmi.pris April 2 2016 09: 36
          +7
          So our leadership in the Kremlin is promoting this .. "This is money for the Caucasus, this is gas for Svidomit ..." People in the same Belarus see who is running the show in Russia - bribery, thieves and oligarchs ... By and large, we and Belarusians are one people, ethnos. It's just that our leaders are different ..
          Quote: Rarog
          We are one people and one country. In this "good" poem at first glance, the idea of ​​our difference is traced, it is with such methods that they "unobtrusively" drum into us at the subconscious level that we are not a single ethnos - Divide and rule. It's time to stop promoting the idea of ​​dividing the Russian People.
        2. avt
          avt April 2 2016 09: 43
          +6
          Quote: Rarog
          We are one people and one country.

          laughing But Batska and many Belarusians know about entom? Is this an April Fool's joke with the "Russian Spring", or is it still the congratulations of the prime minister of Belarus for this "holiday" today
          Minsk considers unfair payments for Belarusian products in Russian rubles, and for energy products in dollars, Prime Minister Andrei Kobyakov said in an interview with RIA Novosti.

          He also expressed the opinion that the price of Russian gas for Belarus should be $ 80 per thousand cubic meters instead of the current 142.
          “How do you command to understand? Said? "Like we got 3 yards through the bank of the EAEU, and now also for the" Belarusian miracle "to reduce gas prices? Like it's expensive, to spend your "pennies? Does it remind you of anything?
          1. onix757
            onix757 April 2 2016 10: 04
            -5
            Quote: avt
            “How do you command to understand? Said? "Like we got 3 yards through the bank of the EAEU, and now also for the" Belarusian miracle "to reduce gas prices? Like it's expensive, to spend your "pennies? Does it remind you of anything?

            Well, yes, gazmrem will make a discount to the hated regime in Ukraine, rather than the only outpost on the western borders. After all, the bourgeoisie of the Russian Federation and Ukraine are twin cities, and all the hype for the plebs. Is not it?
            1. avt
              avt April 2 2016 10: 26
              +2
              Quote: onix757
              e than the only outpost on the western borders.

              Is it okay that this "outpost" regularly collapses like a hedgehog for a ruble? What about the airbase for the Air Force / Aerospace Forces of the Russian Federation? Gaspadar "suvyarennaga outpost" already in the know?
              Quote: onix757
              , and all the hype for the plebs. Is not it?

              good Are you talking about this ,, holiday "Butt? Exactly so - for the plebs, sayuznaye state", for real Buratins this is a fool's field. Do not believe me - read FM Dostoevsky about the Slavs, but I posted this the other day, too, in connection with the holy Gaspadar of all Litvinnaya and Belaya Rus.
              1. onix757
                onix757 April 2 2016 10: 56
                -7
                How is it with the air base for the Air Force / Air Forces of the Russian Federation?

                But in any case, there will be a discount, there will be an air base. With wolves, live like a wolf. Taking into account the realities, Belarus is not obliged to give anything just like that.
                1. avt
                  avt April 2 2016 11: 08
                  +6
                  Quote: onix757
                  But in any case, there will be a discount, there will be an air base. With wolves live on howling wolfs.

                  Quote: Masya Masya
                  March 31, 2016 at VO:
                  “It would not hurt us to turn our eyes primarily to the economy, to trade and economic relations with the United States of America, with the European Union. And this would be a good foundation for building good relations in all areas,” the president said.

                  Minsk is ready to discuss any problems with the West, is ready to cooperate with the United States.

                  "And not only because it is a global empire, the leading state of the world, with which everyone cooperates, but also because it has never caused allergies," he said.

                  “Our people are kind, educated and understand the processes taking place in the world,” Lukashenka said.

                  That is, in the dry residue
                  Quote: onix757
                  the only outpost on the western borders.
                  need an auction? Who will give more, and that "outpost"?
                  Quote: onix757
                  Belarus is not obliged to give anything just like that.

                  Only Russia? Well, this is normal, it's all right
                  Quote: avt
                  Do not believe me - read F.M.Dostoevsky about the Slavs, but I laid it out the other day, too, in connection with the holy Gaspadar of All Litvinnaya and Belaya Rus.

                  laughing It is not for nothing that they read it all over the world and many clack their teeth, Lenin called him a trashy old man like that. Again, I remember the actor Strauch in the image of Lenin in the film Lenin in October "Look how these saints, these political activists betrayed us!"
                  1. onix757
                    onix757 April 2 2016 11: 29
                    -9
                    need an auction? Who will give more, and that "outpost"?

                    The capitalists and feudal lords have overlaid and at the interruption they offer nyashki that are beneficial for Belarus. A reasonable politician will always take advantage of a situation favorable to the country, especially in difficult times. The Russian Federation can stand on the sidelines if the auction is too expensive.
                    Only Russia? Well, this is normal, it's all right

                    I don’t see problems, let them not. Moreover, it does not give anything for free.
                    1. avt
                      avt April 2 2016 11: 58
                      +4
                      Quote: onix757
                      The Russian Federation can stand on the sidelines if the auction is too expensive.

                      Well, stand on the sidelines with chants about "the only outpost in the West" and other "brotherhood", or write honestly - Russia has two aero allies, its Army and Navy. The rest of the business is nothing personal. Like a divorce on the grandmothers selling ,, brat ”suckers that are on it.
                      Quote: Your friend
                      Understandably, i.e. Belarus owes nothing to Russia, and Russia owes. What a wonderful logic you have. There are 2 states, they have already dispersed. I hope forever.

                      Don't get your hopes up. But father will never stop blowing in his ears, "the brotherhood of the state's sayuznaga", otherwise who will feed him? How Petsyu Biden out of his boobs?
                      1. PHANTOM-AS
                        PHANTOM-AS April 2 2016 14: 09
                        0
                        I read komenty and wonder.
                        Why do we forget about 10 raccoons buried in the southern stream?
                        Why do not we remember the salary of a miller at 2, lyama per day?
                        On the fantastically expensive project, the power of Siberia, with incomprehensible efficiency and already sold, but not yet produced gas to China.
                        We somehow forgot about the world's most expensive gas line to Sochi.
                        It is strange that we do not recall that the geyropa is reducing gas purchases from the Russian Federation, preferring cheaper liquefied gas from the Arabs.
                        And many more comrades, all of a sudden, forgot that Gasprom is a national treasure only in television advertising. But in fact?
                        All this I mean is that we should not exaggerate the role of prices for Russian gas in the economy of the Republic of Belarus and understand that we are a union state with the Republic of Belarus.
                      2. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 April 2 2016 16: 48
                        +4
                        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                        It is strange that we do not recall that the geyropa is reducing gas purchases from the Russian Federation, preferring cheaper liquefied gas from the Arabs.

                        Liquefied gas is not cheaper than Gazprom. And yet, the quality of gas is determined by its energy intensity, the higher the better
                      3. PHANTOM-AS
                        PHANTOM-AS April 2 2016 18: 57
                        0
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        Liquefied gas is not cheaper than Gazprom

                        The price of Russian pipe gas, supplied under long-term contracts, as a rule, exceeds spot quotes on major European trading hubs. At the same time, Russian gas exports to Europe are falling.
                        Qatar is pleased to supply its flexible spot gas to Geyrop.
                      4. Cat man null
                        Cat man null April 2 2016 19: 03
                        0
                        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                        exceeds spot quotes

                        - "spot quotes", .. dear .. stick it by the collar .. there they belong ...

                        There are no words, except as for mom ..
                      5. Pilat2009
                        Pilat2009 April 2 2016 20: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                        Qatar is pleased to supply its flexible spot gas to Geyrop.

                        It supplies because there is a need and the European Union is developing diversification, that is, they are ready to take more expensive, just not from Russia. In the Baltic states, they built a terminal and signed a deliberately expensive contract and will pay this population, it won’t go anywhere. I don’t say anything about shale gas oil price in 40 ye production unprofitable
                        And more:
                        In mid-January, Lithuania announced that it no longer wants to import liquefied natural gas from the United States. The problem is that according to representatives of the purchasing company Lietuvos Energija NGE, American LNG does not meet Lithuanian quality standards. In particular, the chemical composition of the liquefied gas produced by Cheniere is not suitable for the Lithuanian gas system.
                        And more:
                        Here the problem is the price. Currently, Greece imports gas from Russia at a price of 4,6 - 4,7 dollars per million BTU, receives from Turkish Botas at 5,9 dollars per million BTU, from Algerian Sonatrach at 6,5 dollars and from Dutch TTF for 6 dollars . But Cheniere asks for its LNG at $ 7 per million BTU.
                  2. woron333444
                    woron333444 April 3 2016 20: 48
                    +2
                    What a lie, liquefied gas costs at least one and a half times more expensive. Transportation is expensive there.
              2. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 April 2 2016 12: 00
                +6
                Quote: onix757
                The capitalists and feudal lords have overlaid and at the interruption they offer nyashki that are beneficial for Belarus.

                Well, what kind of babies do they offer? Gas is cheaper than Russian? Assembly of Mercedes at MAZ? Most of Belarus’s products go to the Russian market. Nobody teaches Ukraine. Everyone wants to live by their own ideas, but have preferences and help. If Russian gas is so bad- organize reverse and swing Norwegian or carry Qatari
              3. mashine
                mashine April 2 2016 18: 15
                +1
                Onix757, in a decent society, for such posts, you can be considered a professional resource
          2. Your friend
            Your friend April 2 2016 11: 17
            +5
            Quote: onix757
            How is it with the air base for the Air Force / Air Forces of the Russian Federation?

            But in any case, there will be a discount, there will be an air base. With wolves, live like a wolf. Taking into account the realities, Belarus is not obliged to give anything just like that.

            Understandably, i.e. Belarus owes nothing to Russia, and Russia owes. What a wonderful logic you have. There are 2 states, they have already dispersed. I hope forever.

            It is surprising why the government of Belarus did not demand an increase in the price of gas, when in 2012 this price rose and was about $ 450, and for Belarus Russia reduced it to $ 165?
            1. prosto_rgb
              prosto_rgb April 2 2016 11: 46
              +3
              Quote: Your friend
              It is surprising why the government of Belarus did not demand an increase in the price of gas, when in 2012 this price rose and was about $ 450, and for Belarus Russia reduced it to $ 165?

              I dont know.
              maybe because since 2010 the EAC and energy prices in general should have been the same for all its participants?
              1. Your friend
                Your friend April 2 2016 11: 55
                0
                Quote: prosto_rgb
                I dont know.
                maybe because since 2010 the EAC and energy prices should have been the same for all of its participants

                What are you saying? What is your evidence?))) I'm waiting for the link.

                Independent Belarusian experts have calculated
                that the volume of Russian subsidies to the fuel sector in
                2010 is still $ 4,6 billion (8
                percent of Belarusian GDP), of which $ 3 billion
                gas supplies and $ 1,6 billion for oil.13
                Lukashenko’s numbers are similar to these. Benefit that
                Belarus extracts from Russian subsidies for oil and
                gas - he said - amounted to $ 4 billion, and this will allow
                Belarus in 2012 to achieve a positive
                external account balance of $ 1,5 billion. 14 Putin too
                took part in the numbers game. November 25, 2011
                at a session of the Supreme Council of the Union of Belarus and
                Russia in Moscow, he announced that starting in January
                2012, the gas price for Belarus will be reduced from
                $ 244 per thousand cubic meters to $ 164. Having in
                mind the price that Gazprom sets European
                to consumers - an average of $ 415 - Putin concluded:
                “That means at least 2 billion
                dollars [annually] will remain in Belarus. ”
                In addition, starting in 2014, the country will become
                pay for gas at Russian domestic prices.15
                As regards oil, Belarus will have until December 9, 2010
                and paid for it at Russian domestic prices, but
                only for the amount needed for
                own consumption.

                Which our guarantor is generous. All for friends. And for their own people, butter cookies. Vote for United Russia !!!)))
                1. onix757
                  onix757 April 2 2016 12: 12
                  -2
                  Quote: Your friend
                  Independent Belarusian experts have calculated
                  that the volume of Russian subsidies to the fuel sector in
                  2010 is still $ 4,6 billion

                  This investment is called "the pipe was squeezed out", and it also needs to be maintained.
                2. Your friend
                  Your friend April 2 2016 12: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: onix757
                  This investment is called "the pipe was squeezed out", and it also needs to be maintained.

                  These are annual subsidies, which "the pipe has been squeezed out." Pipe maintenance costs $ 4,6 billion ???? Are you delusional?
                3. onix757
                  onix757 April 2 2016 12: 26
                  -5
                  These are annual subsidies, which "the pipe has been squeezed out."

                  25.11.2011
                  The Russian company Gazprom on Friday, November 25, completely bought the Belorussian venture Beltransgaz. The deal is tied to the signing of a new gas agreement between Russia and Belarus, which takes place in Gorky near Moscow in the presence of the heads of two states.
                  For a 50 percent stake in a Belarusian company, the Russian monopolist gave $ 2,5 billion, according to Gazprom’s website. The purchase of the first 50 percent of Beltransgaz shares took place in 2007 for the same amount.
                4. Your friend
                  Your friend April 2 2016 12: 32
                  +4
                  Quote: onix757
                  These are annual subsidies, which "the pipe has been squeezed out."

                  25.11.2011
                  The Russian company Gazprom on Friday, November 25, completely bought the Belorussian venture Beltransgaz. The deal is tied to the signing of a new gas agreement between Russia and Belarus, which takes place in Gorky near Moscow in the presence of the heads of two states.
                  For a 50 percent stake in a Belarusian company, the Russian monopolist gave $ 2,5 billion, according to Gazprom’s website. The purchase of the first 50 percent of Beltransgaz shares took place in 2007 for the same amount.

                  Do you understand Russian? What are 2,5 billion dollars? 4,6 billion are the annual net subsidies of Belarus.
                  Do you have a purchase of Beltransgaz - is it called "squeezing out"? When you go to the store to buy bread, do you squeeze it too? ))))
                5. onix757
                  onix757 April 2 2016 12: 57
                  +3
                  Do you have a purchase of Beltransgaz - is it called "squeezing out"? When you go to the store to buy bread, do you squeeze it too?

                  I go to the store of my own free will and not by compulsion. And Beltransgaz was simply bent.
  • ruAlex
    ruAlex April 2 2016 10: 04
    0
    Support.
  • Galich Kos
    Galich Kos April 2 2016 08: 09
    -1
    Quote: Michael67
    The union of Russia and Belarus - to be. There is no doubt.
    The question is the degree of evacuation of the head.
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  • siberalt
    siberalt April 2 2016 08: 10
    +5
    Whether the Union will be decided by Kolya Lukashenko. And one must begin at least with the recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
    1. Basarev
      Basarev April 2 2016 08: 38
      +10
      And what is the use of Russia from this union? What can Belarus offer us? Its market is small and poor. There have been no scientific and technological breakthroughs for thirty years. I see only one thing: Belarus lives only at the expense of Russia and still bites its lactating hand. In a good way, there should be a clear certainty, as in a normal world: either you willfulness, but you live on your own money, or you feed from us, but for this it is entirely ours.
      1. Talgat
        Talgat April 2 2016 09: 15
        +7
        Quote: Basarev
        And what is the use of Russia from this union? What can Belarus offer us? Its market is small and poor.


        I don’t agree with such a logic that once small it’s not necessary? In fact, Belarus is bigger than the same Crimea. Secondly, it has an extremely important geopolitical location - its surrender - means the next offensive by a hostile Western civilization throughout Eurasia.

        Do not forget that the population there is almost identical in mentality to the Russian Federation and differs only for the better. That is, one Belarus is "worth" ten guest workers from the SA or Kyat or Vietnam - because he is the same "Soviet" person as the majority in our country and in the Russian Federation.

        Belarus is the only one of the 3 major republics of the CU and the Eurasian Economic Union that retained the social achievements and justice of the USSR - oligarchs did not plunder the economy - they did not kill industry and doomed the people to poverty banditry, etc. Education medicine is all up there.

        This experience of Belarus is like a bone in the throat of all oligarchs and liberals (and a very dangerous precedent - and another grain - which can "sprout" in the already Eurasian Union) - therefore, there is a persecution and slander against the republic and its leader.
        1. avt
          avt April 2 2016 09: 48
          0
          Quote: Talgat
          Belarus is the only one of the 3 major republics of the CU and the Eurasian Economic Union that retained the social achievements and justice of the USSR - oligarchs did not plunder the economy - they did not kill industry and doomed the people to poverty banditry, etc. Education medicine is all up there.

          Well, as I wrote before
          Quote: avt
          Minsk considers unfair payments for Belarusian products in Russian rubles, and for energy products in dollars, Prime Minister Andrei Kobyakov said in an interview with RIA Novosti.

          He also expressed the opinion that the price of Russian gas for Belarus should be $ 80 per thousand cubic meters instead of the current 142. “How do you order you to understand? Said? "Like we got 3 yards through the bank of the EAEU and now also for the" Belarusian miracle "to reduce gas prices? Like it's expensive, to spend your "pennies? Does it remind you of anything?

          Here in this particular case, look and count who is keeping whom and at whose expense
          Quote: Talgat
          social achievements and justice of the USSR

          and that in response to this "storage" we hear besides songs about
          Quote: Talgat
          there is persecution and slander against the republic and its leader.

          whenever it’s not even with money, but simply ask to do what Papa SAM himself said and no one pulled his tongue, Well, how about
          Quote: siberalt
          And one must begin at least with the recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
        2. sa-ag
          sa-ag April 3 2016 07: 14
          0
          Quote: Talgat
          Secondly, she has an extremely important geopolitical location.

          For some reason, it doesn’t occur to anyone, as is the case with Ukraine
      2. onix757
        onix757 April 2 2016 11: 46
        -6
        Quote: Basarev
        And what is the use of Russia from this union? What can Belarus offer us?

        Of course, nothing can. We’ll buy mining dump trucks in the states, horse-drawn ICBMs can be transported, and the PAK FA will fly on Israeli avionics .. if they are sold.
        1. avt
          avt April 2 2016 12: 02
          +5
          Quote: onix757
          . We will buy mining dump trucks in the states,
          In Japan. And God willing will organize somewhere in Kramatorsk.
          Quote: onix757
          Horse-drawn ICBMs can be transported

          request fool Learn materiel, will make BAZ for "Anthea" and KAMAZ for strategists.
          Quote: onix757
          and PAK FA on Israeli avionics flies .. if they sell it.

          Nothing. "Brothers" who are now "non-brothers" have already thrown such a puzzle - we will solve it and this will be solved if Butler kicks up. And Shoigu has already ordered to equip the western outpost near Smolensk.
          1. onix757
            onix757 April 2 2016 12: 18
            -3
            In Japan.A God will give somewhere in Kramatorsk organize.

            make BAZ for "Antey" and KAMAZ for strategists

            Nothing. "Brothers" who are now "non-brothers" have already thrown such a puzzle - we decide and we will solve this ,

            Yes, decide with our helmsmen for whom the present is nothing - the future is everything)
            1. avt
              avt April 2 2016 12: 30
              +4
              Quote: onix757
              Yes, decide with our helmsmen for whom the real is nothing - everything is the future)

              That is, there is nothing to say about the materiel? Well, about the centipede "from KAMAZ already made, well, for which there is neither mind nor money" according to Butler, nor about "Voshchin" and an order for it from BAZ, or about components for the S-300 from Ukraine? that thoughtfully - swam, we know. laughing Well go ahead, glitch further, by western outposts guarded by Batskaya
              1. onix757
                onix757 April 2 2016 12: 41
                -6
                Well, given the fact that the bases are in a semi-decomposed state and the KAMAZ weight is at a loss, you have to wait a long time. So far, some plans for 10 years and no more. So rather, you have nothing to say.
                1. Your friend
                  Your friend April 2 2016 12: 45
                  +2
                  Quote: onix757
                  Well, given the fact that the bases are in a semi-decomposed state and the KAMAZ weight is at a loss, you have to wait a long time. So far, some plans for 10 years and no more. So rather, you have nothing to say.

                  Write correctly. Devastation, unfulfilled plans. Instead of spending money on Russian enterprises, our government, led by a Vovan, spends money on "brothers".
        2. Your friend
          Your friend April 2 2016 12: 07
          0
          Quote: onix757
          Of course, nothing can. We’ll buy mining dump trucks in the states, horse-drawn ICBMs can be transported, and the PAK FA will fly on Israeli avionics .. if they are sold.

          Uuuuuu, how everything is running.)))
        3. Winnie76
          Winnie76 April 2 2016 12: 52
          +1
          We’ll reconnect somehow ... But what can the outpost do with their dump trucks and avionics, they can ask our non-brothers. Motor Sich, CB South, Antonov, they too were all so intellectually exclusive. And in what place are they now.

          For the Russian Federation, this is a matter of convenience / inconvenience. For Belarus, this is a matter of survival. Feel the difference ... And welcome to the Russian Federation.
          1. onix757
            onix757 April 2 2016 13: 12
            -6
            Quote: Winnie76
            Motor Sich, KB South, Antonov

            The Russian Federation cannot do such projects, and therefore the thought of replacing these enterprises will remain in their wet dreams. Therefore, they will buy as they bought in the Republic of Belarus, and with what mood they buy it deeply purple.
            1. Winnie76
              Winnie76 April 2 2016 14: 50
              +6
              Motor Sich - Klimov plant, KB Yuzhnoye - MIT + KB named after Makeev + Votkinsk plant, Antonov - Ilyushin, Sukhoi, Yakovlev.
              Ukrainian enterprises are dying, Russian are developing. What is the humidity?

              By the way, Baz and Kamaz have a guaranteed sales market within the Russian Federation. MZKT after the decision of Lukashenko will infringe. And in the foreign market you have to fight for every contract. The outlook has diminished, but the original Belarusian wink
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      5. FM-78
        FM-78 April 3 2016 03: 38
        0
        Sometimes, it’s better to chew.
  • Inok10
    Inok10 April 2 2016 00: 13
    +12
    The main feature of the Union State of Russia and Belarus being created is the model of a new type of association, which is neither unitary nor federal. The Russian Federation is a federal state, and the Republic of Belarus is a unitary state, united in a unique state formation, within which they retained their state sovereignty and features of the political system. On December 8, 1999, the Treaty on the Creation of the Union State of Russia and Belarus was signed.
    ... Forward to the USSR ... gentlemen of the Westerners are not yet evening, not yet evening ... is still ahead ... you drank champagne early for the collapse of the USSR, very early ... in Russia it’s not in vain from forever saying:. .. Do not share the skin, not killed a bear ... hi
    1. lav67
      lav67 April 2 2016 00: 19
      +8
      Everything goes in a circle, there was a time how many times Russia rose from the ashes and reunited.
      1. 30BIS
        30BIS April 2 2016 07: 54
        +2
        Alexander Blok

        On the Kulikov Field (1908) -------------------------------------------- ------------------ Oh, my Russia! My wife! To pain
        We are clear a long way!
        Our way - an arrow of the Tatar ancient will
        Our chest pierced us.

        Our path is steppe, our way is in a longing -
        In your anguish, oh, Russia!
        And even haze - night and foreign -
        I'm not afraid.

        Let it be night. We learn. We will call fires
        Steppe distance.
        In the steppe smoke the holy banner will shine
        And Khan's Saber Steel ...

        And the eternal battle! Rest only in our dreams
        Through blood and dust ...
        The steppe mare flies, flies
        And crumpled feather grass ...

        And there is no end! Versts flicker, twists ...
        Stop it!
        They go, frightened clouds walk,
        Sunset in the blood!
        Sunset in the blood! Blood flows from the heart!
        Cry, heart, cry ...
        No peace! Steppe mare
        Rushing! ----------------- The devil is of course in the details .. Putin, Lukashenko, Poroshenko, pin dosiya .. But !! To be Russia - Great and Mighty. The Union of Belarus, South Russia (Ukraine), Russia to be !! There can be no other !! Even in thoughts one should not allow another !! It is important!
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 April 2 2016 08: 08
      +1
      It’s like they killed the USSR bear, although it’s strange how it would seem to live and rejoice, everyone was so eager for independence, but no, they all rolled here like honey. hi
      1. Basarev
        Basarev April 2 2016 08: 44
        +11
        Because it turned out that without the Russian darma, all these republics are just wild backyards. And how on the eve of the exit they calculated how they monopolistically feed the Union ... In fact, it turned out that even they could not feed themselves.
        1. onix757
          onix757 April 2 2016 09: 36
          -7
          Quote: Basarev
          Because it turned out that without the Russian darma, all these republics are just wild backyards.

          These "backyards" produce products from which the Russian Federation simply cannot refuse.
          As for the Russian darma, one should not be deceived.
          The debt of Russian consumers to Gazprom increased in 2015 by 19,8% - from 127 billion rubles to 152,1 billion rubles. At the same time, the level of settlements for gas decreased by 1,4% - to 96,2%.
          Most of the debt of the country's population falls on consumers of the North Caucasus Federal District. As of January 1, 2016, residents of the North Caucasus Federal District owed 48,6 billion rubles, or 81,4% of the total debt of the population of the Russian Federation.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 April 2 2016 12: 17
            +3
            Quote: onix757
            At the same time, the level of settlements for gas decreased by 1,4% to 96,2%

            Well, do you still suggest that Belarus doesn’t pay? It’s clear that the Caucasus is a problem region, so let Belarus be part of Russia as a subject of the federation. By the way, against this background, I would advise Gazprom to curtail the gasification program of the Caucasus, let them drown
            1. onix757
              onix757 April 2 2016 12: 29
              -4
              Quote: Pilat2009
              u and? Do you still suggest that Belarus does not pay?

              The fact of the matter is that Belarus pays for its obligations. Just before you demand something from others, you need to look in the mirror more often.
              1. Your friend
                Your friend April 2 2016 12: 40
                +6
                Quote: onix757
                The fact of the matter is that Belarus pays for its obligations.

                Seriously? This is how she pays? Ahhh, almost the annual refinancing and extension of loans ... Again, you are talking nonsense.
                Quote: onix757
                Just before you demand something from others, you need to look in the mirror more often.

                Pralno say, let Belarus look in the mirror when it demands to recalculate the cost of gas in connection with the devaluation of the ruble.)
                1. avt
                  avt April 2 2016 12: 55
                  0
                  Quote: onix757
                  The fact of the matter is that Belarus pays for its obligations.

                  Quote: Your friend
                  Seriously? This is how she pays? Ahhh, almost the annual refinancing and extension of loans ... Again, you are talking nonsense.

                  No. This is no longer nonsense, this is such a belief in the motive of the sect - "sayuznaya gasudarstvo" with the worship of the guru -Batski and everything across, and even more so destroying the bright appearance of the deity from the "Belarusian miracle" is heresy. Adepts of the sect are generally inclined to hiccup any excuse, just not to leave the astral plane.
            2. onix757
              onix757 April 2 2016 12: 31
              -1
              It is clear that the Caucasus is a problem region. Well, let Belarus be part of Russia as a subject of the federation.

              As soon as Soviet power is established in the Caucasus, I believe that Belarus will be ready to consider such an option.
              1. Your friend
                Your friend April 2 2016 12: 41
                -4
                Quote: onix757
                As soon as Soviet power is established in the Caucasus, I believe that Belarus will be ready to consider such an option.

                Soviet power ????? Ahahahahaha ....
          2. Your friend
            Your friend April 2 2016 12: 22
            +3
            Quote: onix757
            These "backyards" produce products from which the Russian Federation simply cannot refuse.

            Utter nonsense. With Ukraine, trade was much greater than with Belarus. Now it has slipped to a microscopic level. And what happened the end of the world? Now we are doing or will do everything that Ukraine produced in the Russian Federation. If we count all the subsidies and loans allocated by Belarus, then we could build hundreds of production facilities such as MAZ in the Russian Federation.
            Quote: onix757
            The debt of Russian consumers to Gazprom increased in 2015 by 19,8% - from 127 billion rubles to 152,1 billion rubles. At the same time, the level of settlements for gas decreased by 1,4% - to 96,2%.
            Most of the debt of the country's population falls on consumers of the North Caucasus Federal District. As of January 1, 2016, residents of the North Caucasus Federal District owed 48,6 billion rubles, or 81,4% of the total debt of the population of the Russian Federation.

            Actually, the Caucasus is the Russian Federation. The same Russian citizens live there as you and I. It is better to credit them than Belarus.
            1. onix757
              onix757 April 2 2016 12: 52
              +1
              Quote: Your friend
              Utter nonsense. With Ukraine, trade was much greater than with Belarus. Now it has slipped to a microscopic level.

              That's right, he rolled down ... Now only the boats are capable of mastering. So to say, we are building a powerful fleet of the coastal zone)
              Actually, the Caucasus is the Russian Federation. The same Russian citizens live there as you and I.

              That's right, only I pay, Belarus pays, but they do not.
              Better to lend them than RB

              For me, as for a Russian, Belarus is closer both in faith and in spirit.
          3. Winnie76
            Winnie76 April 2 2016 13: 16
            +2
            A country with a population of 140 million people cannot depend on what foot the ruler of a country with a population of 10 million has got up. If it’s rude: Belarus will spit - Russia will rub off, if Russia spit - Belarus will drown.

            It seems to me with an air base and MZKT Old Man very much went too far in the direction of independence. Only here a small fish will not survive in an aquarium with sharks. Accordingly, it is time for Belarus to determine whether they are with us or against us. The usual logic of war.
  • gendir.grifon
    gendir.grifon April 2 2016 00: 24
    +8
    I am convinced that Belarus should be part of Russia.
    1. Michael67
      Michael67 April 2 2016 00: 44
      +14
      And the Old Man with an omega flirts.
      And what will we do?
      He refused at the airbase.
      And what will we do?
      For the delivered oil, his commerce does not pay.
      And what will we do?
      ...
      ...
      ...
      This is what we would not want our diplomats not to say about them: "D .., b ..".
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb April 2 2016 08: 10
      +2
      Quote: gendir.grifon
      I am convinced that Belarus should be part of Russia.

      not the most sensible idea
      Ukraine’s entry into Russia ended in nothing good
      1. ilyaros
        April 2 2016 08: 18
        +5
        No, this "sovereignty" of Ukraine did not end well. As a part of Russia, Ukraine lived normally and the cataclysms on it were associated with all-Russian reasons (Civil War 1917-1921) or external factors (First and Second World Wars). But the sovereignty, after 23 years, led to a bloody war in the Donbass, the loss of Crimea, and this is not to speak of the total poverty of the Ukrainian population, political chaos, etc.
      2. avt
        avt April 2 2016 09: 55
        +9
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        Ukraine’s entry into Russia ended in nothing good

        The construction of the Ukrainian SSR as part of the USSR did not end well. And Little Russia as part of the Empire did not even jerk during the Napoleonic invasion, although the General Staff and Barclay calculated this probability, remembering the experience with Mazepa. But Little Russians honestly and with dignity showed themselves then and on the eve of 1917, until February. Well, then it all started like ... pizzunda bumps. But judging by
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        not the most sensible idea

        Do you want to be a foul state? Your will, I’m already here trying to some exalted comrades with the buggy “saezny government” to accept this objective reality. Well, of course, But Father has a holiday - another tranche of $ 500 million has come.
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb April 2 2016 10: 57
          +5
          Quote: avt
          Would you like to be a soured state? Your will

          a sovereign state does not at all imply being in a physical vacuum and "in spite of Mom, I will frostbite my ears", that is, I will not sell anything and buy from somebody patamushta they are so and so.
          Quote: avt
          I’m yes-a-avno already here trying to some exalted comrades with a buggy "saez state" to accept this objective reality.

          absolutely true, the meaning of the existence of this union (or Islamic) state ceased in 2010, when the EAC was created.
          Well, yes, yes, a good feeding trough for "party-functioners"; transfer pieces of paper from box to box and go on business trips at public expense
          1. combat66
            combat66 April 2 2016 22: 13
            +5
            "To shark dad, or mom" arguments before the lamp. He is a convinced "Belarusian-hater", martyrically trying to distort the Belarusian language, only he does not understand that he is distorting Russian. And we have something to do with him here. As soon as there is a topic on VO about Belarus, his comments will certainly be in the negative and necessarily in warped Russian ... laughing The polemic is useless - the character is Nordic, persistent. wassat
        2. sa-ag
          sa-ag April 3 2016 07: 18
          +1
          Quote: avt
          The construction of the Ukrainian SSR as a part of the USSR did not end well

          Nothing at all? And there was no industrial region supplying from aviation to engines, nothing of that ??? Short memory i see
  • Observer2014
    Observer2014 April 2 2016 00: 46
    +16
    Quote: gendir.grifon
    I am convinced that Belarus should be part of Russia.

    But I’m not convinced of anything!. You shouldn’t in any case think and speak like that! Belarus is Russia! Here's how to think and speak!
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. April 2 2016 01: 03
      -8
      Quote: Observer2014
      Quote: gendir.grifon
      I am convinced that Belarus should be part of Russia.

      But I’m not convinced of anything!. You shouldn’t in any case think and speak like that! Belarus is Russia! Here's how to think and speak!

      Belarus is the best part of Russia!
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb April 2 2016 08: 16
      +3
      Quote: Observer2014
      ! Belarus is Russia!

      aha
      Ukraine CE Europe.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev April 2 2016 08: 49
        +2
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        Belarus is the best part of Russia!

        It smacks of Nazism. As if the Great Russians are second-class people.
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb April 2 2016 10: 59
          0
          Quote: Basarev
          It smacks of Nazism. As if the Great Russians are second-class people.

          exactly
          but I am not the author of this quote.
        2. Sergey S.
          Sergey S. April 2 2016 17: 08
          +1
          Quote: Sergey S.
          Quote: Observer2014
          Quote: gendir.grifon
          I am convinced that Belarus should be part of Russia.

          But I’m not convinced of anything!. You shouldn’t in any case think and speak like that! Belarus is Russia! Here's how to think and speak!

          Belarus is the best part of Russia!

          Quote: Basarev
          It smacks of Nazism. As if the Great Russians are second-class people.


          Conversation of the deaf with the blind.
          If we talk about who benefits from the unification of Russia and Belarus, it is necessary to define the concept of "benefit".
          1. Benefits are measured in money. In this case, the right to vote belongs to the bablosos, which skillfully consider personal profits, and to the bribe takers, who live on the interpretation of laws and rules. This unification is clearly not beneficial, because any barrier, any excess law, any additional document is a potential explanation of where the oligarchic states come from.
          2. Benefit is measured by the ability to live without working. In this case, it becomes important to organize a large number of political parties, non-profit organizations, various funds ... The more countries, the more profitable the parasites, because the State Department in each country organizes "democratic" funds and foundations ...
          3. Benefit is measured by the family happiness of a simple person. In this case, all normal people remember the USSR, drink for the past of the Great Country, try to explain to business people, officials and parasites what is good and what is bad. And they dream of uniting all peoples close in spirit and culture again into a single state. In spite of businessmen, bureaucrats and parasites of all nationalities and stripes.
          1. gendir.grifon
            gendir.grifon April 2 2016 20: 24
            +2
            Independent Belarus and the outskirts - this is generally nonsense. Artificial division of the Russian people by the external internal enemies of Russia. In spite of all the enemies, we will live in a single country, taking into account the mistakes of the past.
        3. Thirsty for wind
          Thirsty for wind April 2 2016 21: 34
          0
          First of all, it smacks of stupidity. Especially when someone praises himself.
          A sensible individual would smile condescendingly.
  • casparcaspar
    casparcaspar April 2 2016 02: 31
    -21%
    Obviously, we must stop pretending that the Russian province under the ridiculous name of Belarus (was it named after the tractor, or what?) Has some kind of independence!
    We have a Union State, and the elder brother has the right in the Union! It has always been like this in Russia, so it is with us, with the Russians. Everyone knows that any resident of White Russia lives with only one thought - unification with Russia.
    The main thing now is not to panic, now there is a very delicate game. Putin and Lukashenka are playing a difficult game, they just don't tell us everything. Lukashenka is luring "our Western partners", and Putin is playing along with him - this is obvious! Lukashenka will receive a bunch of loans, and then he will join Russia and bye !!! At this moment, they realize how they really got there - the loans went to Russia and cannot be returned! Respect to both.
    Putin will throw up his hands "it was not Russia who took it!"
    Lukashenka will shrug his hands "we are now just a region of Russia."

    All white Russians are really fans of our Putin, I know for sure. And Lukashenko can be put on agriculture. Then we will fill up the whole world with food.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik April 2 2016 06: 07
      +11
      Quote: casparcaspar
      Everyone knows that any resident of White Russia lives with only one thought - unification with Russia

      Not everyone. Even on our site, opponents of this idea appear from time to time. Which claim that Russia is simply obligated to sponsor Belarus. And they themselves, like Ukraine, look to the West. They smeared with honey there.
      1. Anatole Klim
        Anatole Klim April 2 2016 07: 19
        +7
        Quote: EvgNik
        ... that Russia is simply obligated to sponsor Belarus.

        Domestic gas prices - the cheapest in Europe, duty-free Russian oil in the amount of 20 million tons with your own consumption of 6 million. Refine and sell, open Russian market, endless preferential Russian loans, first place for the export of Belarusian kiwi, papaya and shrimp, henpecked Belarusian oligarchs Rygorychu, severe prosecution of corruption, does not steal, working factories, plowed fields, clean streets, but nevertheless Belarusian does not live better than a Russian, and if there was no Russian support? Where are the pennies? Really on panicles for the streets? recourse
        1. avt
          avt April 2 2016 10: 02
          +2
          Quote: Anatol Klim
          Domestic gas prices - the cheapest in Europe,

          Already there is no campaign for Butsky.
          Minsk considers unfair payments for Belarusian products in Russian rubles, and for energy products in dollars, Prime Minister Andrei Kobyakov said in an interview with RIA Novosti.

          He also expressed the opinion that the price of Russian gas for Belarus should be $ 80 per thousand cubic meters instead of the current 142.
          Now, as in Pushkin's fairy tale - "You fool, you fool, go back to the fish as soon as possible .." and say that the gas was not just for $ 80 for a loan issued to be purchased, but in general for nothing and an irrevocable loan .. and a stool for Kolya in the throne in the Kremlin hall at the throne - let him get used to it. wassat It just seems to me that Pushkin - our everything is right and the ending will be exactly according to his fairy tale.
    2. midivan
      midivan April 2 2016 06: 26
      +7
      Quote: casparcaspar
      Putin and Lukashenka are playing a difficult game, they just don't tell us everything. Lukashenka is luring "our Western partners", and Putin is playing along with him - this is obvious! Lukashenka will receive a bunch of loans, and then he will join Russia and bye !!! At that moment, they realize how they really got there - the loans went to Russia and they cannot be returned! Respect to both.
      Putin will throw up his hands "it was not Russia who took it!"

      and where they don’t tell us, they didn’t accidentally tell us that Old Man and GDP are being pinned on trains by cards? judging by the technology you told, they should be noticed. bully
    3. Your friend
      Your friend April 2 2016 11: 21
      0
      Quote: casparcaspar
      Obviously, we must stop pretending that the Russian province under the ridiculous name of Belarus (was it named after the tractor, or what?) Has some kind of independence!
      We have a Union State, and the elder brother has the right in the Union! It has always been like this in Russia, so it is with us, with the Russians. Everyone knows that any resident of White Russia lives with only one thought - unification with Russia.
      The main thing now is not to panic, now there is a very delicate game. Putin and Lukashenka are playing a difficult game, they just don't tell us everything. Lukashenka is luring "our Western partners", and Putin is playing along with him - this is obvious! Lukashenka will receive a bunch of loans, and then he will join Russia and bye !!! At this moment, they realize how they really got there - the loans went to Russia and cannot be returned! Respect to both.
      Putin will throw up his hands "it was not Russia who took it!"
      Lukashenka will shrug his hands "we are now just a region of Russia."

      All white Russians are really fans of our Putin, I know for sure. And Lukashenko can be put on agriculture. Then we will fill up the whole world with food.

      Oh well, what a fat troll, one must be thinner .... although they are underway ...)))
  • Panabebis
    Panabebis April 2 2016 02: 35
    0
    Hurray, comrades! Just this anniversary fell on Saturday, it should be noted! ;-)
  • Panabebis
    Panabebis April 2 2016 02: 41
    +2
    As Old Man said: "Belarusian is a Russian with a quality mark!" :)
  • pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 April 2 2016 02: 41
    +12
    I don’t know who how, but I am skeptical of this Union. He Union for the time being. Beckon cookies and no Union. I will be glad if I am mistaken. request
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 April 2 2016 17: 49
      -1
      Quote: pofigisst74
      and I am skeptical of this Union. He Union for the time being

      In Belarus, as in Ukraine, there are also nationalists who want to integrate into Europe. And propaganda work is being carried out there. The generation that lived under the USSR and other interests — jeans, Pepsi, Vidicas and chewing gum — will prevail are all that the USSR exchanged for
  • Holsten
    Holsten April 2 2016 03: 36
    +9
    Regarding the permanent president of Belarus, I recalled the lines of Pushkin:
    Half Million, Half Merchant,
    Half-wise, half-ignorant,
    Half crawler, but there is hope
    What will be complete at last ...
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb April 2 2016 07: 55
      +2
      Quote: Holsten
      What will be complete at last ...

      the scribe will be complete
    2. Oldman
      Oldman April 2 2016 09: 34
      +3
      Well, we have a permanent. And you?
      1. onix757
        onix757 April 2 2016 11: 51
        -3
        Quote: Oldman
        Well, we have a permanent. And you?

        And we have no clearance.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 April 2 2016 04: 42
    +13
    Quote: Michael67
    The union of Russia and Belarus - to be. There is no doubt.

    Sorry, lovers of this Community, but we are celebrating the anniversary of a stillborn organization! For 20 years we have been "integrating" - and things are still there! The fact that our military are deployed in Belarus, but we cooperate in the military sphere, and the world is full of cases when countries cooperate on bilateral and multilateral projects without the creation of Union states. And so, Belarus takes its own, consumes Russian resources at Russian domestic prices and re-exports to us products from the EU, and the officials of both states are successfully "mastering" the Union budget - some achievements are not enough! And about a single currency for years 15 rang, and now they were completely silent. hi
    1. Walking
      Walking April 2 2016 06: 21
      +6
      Belarus is ready to take Russian, but does not want to support Russia in the international arena, remember South Ossetia, Abkhazia. And in the situation with Ukraine, Belarus wants to sit on two chairs.
      1. Muvka
        Muvka April 2 2016 08: 10
        +1
        Quote: Hiking
        Belarus is ready to take Russian, but does not want to support Russia in the international arena, remember South Ossetia, Abkhazia. And in the situation with Ukraine, Belarus wants to sit on two chairs.

        sit down. Sorry, my eyes hurt ...
      2. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb April 2 2016 08: 34
        -3
        Quote: Hiking
        Belarus is ready to take Russian, but does not want to support Russia in the international arena, remember South Ossetia, Abkhazia.

        how much nonsense can you post
        The Russian Federation was ready to compensate for the economic losses of Belarus from this action?
        No answer
        1. avt
          avt April 2 2016 10: 35
          +5
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          how much nonsense can you post

          About "sayuznaye state" and "we are united"? Really already got it.
          Quote: prosto_rgb
          The Russian Federation was ready to compensate for the economic losses of Belarus from this action?
          No answer

          Well, write that business is nothing personal and do not go over your ears with a brotherhood, a state government "And those who are buggy
          Quote: onix757
          than the only outpost on the western borders.
          Immediately inquire about the price tag of this ,, outpost, "well, to know exactly how much, we will protect you, you have nothing in the west," to know how much they can outbid. Just now, Butler was already groveling in front of the Pentagon Deputy ... . probably defended Russia wassat offering in particular to change, as by the way, by the way, the Piglet from the Ruins has been begging for a long time, the Noramn "format to Washington".
          1. prosto_rgb
            prosto_rgb April 2 2016 11: 09
            0
            Quote: avt
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            how much nonsense can you post
            About "sayuznaye state" and "we are united"? Really already got it.

            So I actually fully support you in this matter.
            The Germans and the French somehow live in the same union and do not declare that they are unanimously French-German.

            Quote: avt
            Well, write that business is nothing personal and do not go over your ears with a brotherhood, a state government "And those who are buggy

            apparently this song will continue for a long time
            growing, so to speak, the younger generation
            Kobyakov believes that Belarus overpays Russia for gas
            Read more: http://news.tut.by/economics/490905.html
            1. avt
              avt April 2 2016 11: 22
              +5
              Quote: prosto_rgb
              Kobyakov believes that Belarus overpays Russia for gas

              Quote: onix757
              Quite right, given that pricing is tied to a buck.
              The price for Belarus at the beginning of 2014 was $ 165 per thousand cubic meters with a ruble exchange rate of 32-33 per dollar. In 2015, it was $ 142 with an average exchange rate of 60 rubles. Therefore, gas should cost about $ 80.

              Well, many people believe in a lot on the motive of the fairy tale "Buratino". However, there is one small fact that follows from the announcement of suvyaryaniteta - its own monetary unit, well, because of which the first and main scandal of VVP and Batsky broke out, when Batsu was asked for his bazaar about a single currency. If you want to be a foul gosudarstvo, bear with your head proudly all the risks associated with this situation. How to play with the exchange rate difference of three monetary units - and where is my big spoon, but as if the spoon scraped along the bottom - they bend us!
              1. prosto_rgb
                prosto_rgb April 2 2016 11: 50
                0
                Quote: avt
                Well, many people believe in a lot on the motive of the fairy tale "Buratino".

                it looks like Rygoritch’s handbook lol
                She presents it to everyone, and then she says look at questions, everything is written in the book
                1. avt
                  avt April 2 2016 12: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: prosto_rgb
                  it looks like Rygoritch’s handbook

                  And no one can change Pushkin's "The Tale of the Fisherman and the Fish" to him ?? Are they afraid of what they will read? wassat
          2. Your friend
            Your friend April 2 2016 11: 25
            +2
            Quote: avt
            Immediately inquire about the price tag of this ,, outpost, "well, to know exactly how much, we will protect you, you have nothing in the west," to know how much they can buy back. Probably he defended Russia by offering, in particular, to change, as by the way the Piglet has been begging for a long time from the Ruins, the Noramn "format to the Washington one."

            The leaders are in the Kremlin. They still believe (or show that they believe) in fraternal peoples, union states, give out loans, and then they are surprised that the "brothers" have thrown us once again.
        2. Winnie76
          Winnie76 April 2 2016 13: 49
          +1
          Why does it always mean fraternally towards Belarus? And let's do fraternal gas at 500. Support the older brother a pretty penny ...
      3. combat66
        combat66 April 2 2016 22: 45
        +4
        Of the latter, "does not want to recognize" ... Belarus has decided to recognize diplomas and certificates of education in the DPR and to admit residents of the DPR to educational institutions ...
        Do not rush to draw conclusions about the high-profile non-recognition, nobody just asks us. wink
  • aleks700
    aleks700 April 2 2016 05: 39
    +6
    Russian Ambassador to Belarus Alexander Surikov criticized the idea of ​​transferring the production of chassis for Russian military equipment from the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant to KamAZ. According to the Belarusian leader, Russia has no brains and money to create its own production.
    The ambassador to Belarus is a well-known thief (governor) in Altai. The same diplomat as an economist and politician. Well, dad’s statement is simply in the spirit of friendship and mutually beneficial cooperation.
  • yuriy55
    yuriy55 April 2 2016 05: 46
    +6
    Twenty years ago, on April 2, 1996, a historic event took place - the presidents of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus Boris Yeltsin and Alexander Lukashenko signed an agreement on the creation of the Community of Russia and Belarus.


    Nobody will tell what happens to unions when they are imposed from above? How can two people, one of whom ignored the opinion of his people more than once (though now he himself is ignored by the people), decide for everyone? By what right?
    In order for a real union of Belarus and Russia to take place, perhaps it is necessary to hold a referendum in both countries to present questions, and only after summing up the results, decide the fate of the union? Perhaps it will be necessary to moderate the ambitions of some civil servants, perhaps a series of events will occur that are unpleasant for those in power, but this will be the decision of the people, a step towards creating a real (not only on paper) Union ...
    what
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik April 2 2016 06: 16
      +4
      Twenty years ago, on April 2, 1996, a historic event took place - the presidents of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus Boris Yeltsin and Alexander Lukashenko signed an agreement establishing the Community of Russia and Belarus

      And before that, the same Yeltsin, with Shushkevich and Kravchuk in 1991 signed an agreement on the collapse of the country. So I think there’s nothing to celebrate.
    2. Your friend
      Your friend April 2 2016 11: 30
      +2
      Quote: yuriy55
      Nobody will tell what happens to unions when they are imposed from above? How can two people, one of whom ignored the opinion of his people more than once (though now he himself is ignored by the people), decide for everyone? By what right?

      Do you seriously believe that Belarusians, all as one, want to live with us in one country? If even on this site, like sympathizers, the RF Belarusians do not want this, then what can we say about the main population.
      I see that more and more Russians are against this and this makes me happy. On VO there are less and less fools ... s, in whom the word "brothers causes" an involuntary orgasm.
  • Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 April 2 2016 06: 10
    +5
    Quote: Michael67
    The union of Russia and Belarus - to be. There is no doubt.
    The question is the degree of evacuation of the head.
    As they say - the game should be in all (02 pieces) of the gate, and not in one.
    The older brother will always understand, forgive, warm, sprinkle gingerbread ...
    But still ... The game should be mutually beneficial.
    And to the question of two chairs ... Nobody managed to sit on two.
    And it hurts to fall.

    In continuation of the foregoing: Sitting on two chairs, increases the distance between the rolls and the diameter of the sphincter, which now shows the father ... but this is not gut.
  • allim
    allim April 2 2016 06: 11
    +1
    That's right Old Man keeps his distance. He determined the direction and is waiting for changes in Russia until there are real movements in Russia in terms of the economy to give his country into the hands of the Siluanovs of the Nabiulins, etc. early
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 06: 46
      +4
      Quote: allim
      That's right Old Man keeps his distance. He determined the direction and is waiting for changes in Russia until there are real movements in Russia in terms of the economy to give his country into the hands of the Siluanovs of the Nabiulins, etc. early

      A tricky dad however ... As oil prices go up, they will immediately become friends!
      1. onix757
        onix757 April 2 2016 09: 26
        0
        Quote: SHAMAN
        As oil prices go up, Drugan will immediately!

        It won't. The oligarch in the Russian Federation is so afraid of losing power that he is ready to provide the Republic of Belarus with hydrocarbons in any case, so as not to lose the only stable economic "window" with the hated Europe and the only strong and geopolitically important military ally.
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 April 2 2016 09: 18
      +13
      Quote: allim
      That's right Old Man keeps his distance. He determined the direction and is waiting for changes in Russia until there are real movements in Russia in terms of the economy to give his country into the hands of the Siluanovs of the Nabiulins, etc. early

      Well, yes, yes, otherwise who will give him cheap loans, cheap oil and gas, otherwise who will he blackmail? And where to put salmon and salmon, oysters and seafood grown in the Belarusian Sea. Well, such an ally.
  • Masya masya
    Masya masya April 2 2016 06: 12
    +11
    March 31, 2016 at VO:
    “It would not hurt us to turn our eyes primarily to the economy, to trade and economic relations with the United States of America, with the European Union. And this would be a good foundation for building good relations in all areas,” the president said.

    Minsk is ready to discuss any problems with the West, is ready to cooperate with the United States.

    "And not only because it is a global empire, the leading state of the world, with which everyone cooperates, but also because it has never caused allergies," he said.

    “Our people are kind, educated and understand the processes taking place in the world,” Lukashenka said.

    As they say, both ours and yours ...
  • cergey51046
    cergey51046 April 2 2016 06: 19
    -1
    But in vain, each for himself.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 2 2016 06: 46
    +1
    The article lists all the stages in the development of relations between the new Russia and the new Belarus. Although all this took place recently, but has already begun to be forgotten.
    But the general feeling is this: the union formally exists, but really, as it were, not ...
    A very strange supranational entity.
    But everything is better than relations with Ukraine.
    Wait and see...
  • Jurkovs
    Jurkovs April 2 2016 06: 46
    +6
    I can't understand what the holiday is about. Well, Yeltsin and Lukashenko sat down, drank well. Well, what does it matter to me. When Belarus enters Russia by regions, and the very word "Belarus" will again become ethnographic, then I'll drink too!
    1. onix757
      onix757 April 2 2016 09: 05
      -4
      Quote: Jurkovs
      When Belarus enters Russia by regions, and the very word "Belarus" will again become ethnographic, then I'll drink too!

      That's just not in the Russian Federation with the current regime. Otherwise, everyone will lose. Let them keep and increase, and then their potential will be required for the restoration of a large country.
  • Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack April 2 2016 06: 55
    +9
    The union is important and necessary, and any normal person understands this - the Russian outpost - Belarus - support and the people are one. and as for politics, it’s all coming ........ the main relationship between ordinary people - I am a citizen of the Russian Federation - I have been living in Belarus for 7 years now, I have been working ...... I see everything ....
  • Sarmat149
    Sarmat149 April 2 2016 07: 03
    +11
    I do not believe Lukasheno. Which ally is this, if he has a dissenting opinion on any critical issue for Russia, that is, the opposite. I think no need to remind. Allies are when they fight together. But Belarusians didn’t even have to fight, it would be enough to have a coincidence of views on what was happening.
    My personal opinion: "the country of Belarus" is the same freeloader as the "country of Ukraine" with a delay of 20 years according to the schedule. The reasons are the national policy of the Bolsheviks during the construction of the USSR. Well, there was neither Ukrainian nor Belarusian people - they were RUSSIAN for everyone. There was a territorial factor - WHITE RUSSIA, SMALL RUSSIA, the same as SIBERIA, MOSCOW REGION, ARKHANGELSK REGION)). What do we have now? And now we have Belarusians and Ukrainians SEPARATE PEOPLES. For us, they are fraternal peoples. But only for us Russians. And at home, as far as possible, all the Russian is quickly pooled out. And most importantly, political multi-vector, that is, no obligations to Russia. Everything is pretty dull. Either you are a brother or not a brother. In another way: either Russia or Nerus. He called himself a separate people - live separately, if you can't - don't live, your state will perish. There is no other way. And the "union state" is demagogy to support the ruling elite of the Republic of Belarus.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb April 2 2016 08: 45
      +1
      Quote: Sarmat149
      And the "union state" is demagogy to support the ruling elite of the Republic of Belarus.

      yeah, but not only the Republic of Belarus, but the Russian Federation from the time of Yeltsin and the conclusion of the Khasavyurt agreements.
      So to say PR in exchange for food and nothing personal.
  • parusnik
    parusnik April 2 2016 07: 12
    +1
    Shifted, flour will be ...
  • s.melioxin
    s.melioxin April 2 2016 07: 17
    +1
    Despite all the difficulties, which for obvious reasons - after all, each sovereign state, whether Russia or Belarus, has its own economic interests, arise in the relationship between the two countries, the importance of such a structure as the Union of Russia and Belarus can hardly be overestimated
    What's right is right. Hence the conclusion that only people are friends with each other, and then not everyone has them. And this is how Vysotsky sang ... and not a friend and not an enemy, but so. For the fact that Lukashenka is the head of the "family" and everything in the house, I respect, Man. But what methods he uses to achieve this goal, one word ... and so. One gets the impression that Psaki was wrong and wrong when she said that we would send the 6th fleet to the shores of Belarus. Because all sea products imported to Russia are all from Belarus. And it is located much further south than we think, because all citrus fruits ripen in Belarus. Well, about supporting Russia and recognizing Ossetia and Crimea, he is OUR Crimea, for some reason it is weak. So that Russia did not have friends and is not necessary. There is a mutually beneficial partnership or not a very beneficial partnership. It's a pity. Everyone will break a straw, break it try a broom. And so happy holiday, they have Lukashenka, we have Putin, also a man, and two men are power.
  • Korsar4
    Korsar4 April 2 2016 07: 32
    +4
    Rev. Sergius of Radonezh and Euphrosyne of Polotsk, pray God for us.
  • Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack April 2 2016 07: 36
    +10
    To all adequate people!
    1. noWAR
      noWAR April 2 2016 08: 41
      +12
      Quote: Volga Cossack
      To all adequate people!

      Come on, land, for two. Some kind of evil brothers with us :-).
    2. onix757
      onix757 April 2 2016 09: 01
      +4
      The peoples do not need unity. We have nothing to share with the Belarusians, unlike the Rotenbergs and other Avens.
    3. ruskih
      ruskih April 2 2016 10: 05
      +10
      Boys, I will be the third with you. This is so quick hand.
  • Million
    Million April 2 2016 08: 05
    +5
    It would be interesting to find out what Belarusians think about an alliance with Russia. In 1989, Belarusians colleagues said that they didn’t need Russia at all, that they would live without it, like in America, etc. Time passed enough, maybe now they began to think differently, and maybe vice versa ...
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb April 2 2016 08: 52
      +4
      Quote: Million
      .In 1989, fellow Belarusians spoke

      In 1989, everyone said that.
      The national republic, that they do not need Moscow / Russian, here we will throw off its power / live parasites ...
      Moscow, that it does not need freeloaders such as the Baltic states, Belarus, Ukraine and other things, so we will throw them off and heal ...
      Quote: Million
      It would be interesting to know what the Belarusians think about the alliance with Russia.

      in relation to any alliances, Belarusians think that it is necessary to work on mutually beneficial conditions, and at least the tenth thing is called what it is called.

      although, of course, there are still enchanting shots who think that in the EU or Russia paradise on earth and only for the fact of the union, someone will give out money.
    2. Polochanin
      Polochanin April 2 2016 17: 49
      +3
      Well, at least kill me, but I do not remember that in the BSSR in 89 they said so. In the 91st after Bialowieza, when Russia was the first to declare independence, they generally walked like those who were hit by a dust bag. The sensation was as if thrown out like a dirty rag. And they switched from the Soviet ruble to bunnies, it seems the last.
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb April 3 2016 19: 36
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        Quote: Polochanin
        Well, at least kill me, but I do not remember that in the BSSR in 89 they said so.

        He said not in the BSSR, but "colleagues - Belarusians".
        Quote: Polochanin
        And they switched from the Soviet ruble to bunnies, it seems the last.

        yeah 1992-1993 on coupons on a regional basis,
        that is, Vitebsk coupons in Orsha will not be sold.
        hare by 1994, when in 1993 Russia paid for the supply of goods in 1992 with Soviet rubles, and after 2 months it canceled their circulation. and refused to accept them as payment, even according to the series "shipped" to Belarus.
        In general, the standard mnoghldovachka, which by the way for some reason do not recall the news in Belarus. Well, what Rygorichzhes sold to the west.
        Maybe the next one will come back. this question will add to the history curriculum,
        As well as the extraction of beltransgaz by means of gas blackmail, i.e. repeated shutdown of gas in a 20 degree frost.
        Well, what about Belarus? It’s not the Ukro-Bandera junta of which the gas can be shut off.
  • askort154
    askort154 April 2 2016 08: 29
    +2
    Let's remember! The collapse of the USSR. In Russia, Yeltsin is a transition to a market economy (capital construction). Yeltsin's authority is rapidly falling, the country is on the verge of further disintegration ("take as much sovereignty as you can take away")
    At this time, Belarus was the surviving fragment of the USSR, the country was in order, Lukashenko was in authority, not only in Belarus, but also in Russia. Lukashenko is ready to join the structure of Russia and participate in the presidential elections scheduled for 1996. He had all the prerequisites to become president of the Russian Federation at that time.
    Naturally, with fair elections. Realizing this, Yeltsin's oligarchic entourage did everything to prevent this from happening. They understood that Lukashenka's arrival would mean the end of capital construction in the Russian Federation. Therefore, the agreement on the UNION was only on paper; they did not even want to switch to a common currency. Lukashenko was demanded to transfer the economy to capitalist rails. Lukashenko, "with a creak," began to embark on this path. He did not like this "alliance", but there was nowhere to retreat, behind - "the last dictator in Europe." Lukashenka hated the "Kremlin family". Only with the arrival of Putin did he decide on a more "live" alliance with the Russian Federation, but began to "blow on the water." It was another Lukashenka who no longer dreamed of becoming the president of the "Union", he took a pose - I do what is beneficial to me. The postulate - "do not believe, do not be afraid, do not ask" he changed into "do not believe, be afraid and ask."
    1. mashine
      mashine April 2 2016 19: 01
      -1
      askort154, the fact of the matter is that Lukashenko talked about the union while there was a drunkard Yeltsin, since he would have arranged it in two accounts. And as Putin came to power, Lukashenko has zero chance, and the idea of ​​an alliance has become irrelevant for him. And he does not care about the people of Belarus and especially Russia. It would be for us ordinary people for the happiness of living together. But the people of Belarus should themselves want this, but for now, Russia is providing them with that, that's why it is good for them. The real union will be after its Maidan takes place in Belarus, Russia will cease to sponsor the Republic of Belarus and only after that, having experienced all the real difficulties of insecurity, the Republic of Belarus will return home. And talk about MAZs and other things - Russia has it all. For the time being they did not actively develop, as will be necessary - we will do it. There is everything for this.
  • Cartalon
    Cartalon April 2 2016 08: 34
    +1
    Any leadership of Belarus will try to play on both sides until either we or the west put its agents in power.
  • George 275
    George 275 April 2 2016 08: 40
    +4
    Sayuzu Russia and Belarus to be. Only what events should happen in order to understand that Belarusians have nowhere to go without Russia. In history, events of 70 years ago have already taken place. In the meantime, this is a game of independence.
  • hartlend
    hartlend April 2 2016 08: 42
    0
    Market article for a specific date. The author lists recent events that we already know. So, what is next? And yet, filter authors, first names, last names and pseudonyms say a lot.
  • onix757
    onix757 April 2 2016 08: 47
    +4
    What kind of union can there be if there is no foundation? The Russian Federation and Belarus have completely different values ​​and views on the development of the state. And in general, the Russian Federation, unfortunately, is not attractive for the post-Soviet space, since it can offer nothing but hydrocarbons, crooks and the mythical "Russian world" (the idea of ​​which was quickly dismissed) ...
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 April 2 2016 14: 17
      +2
      The deepest IMHO, the faster the drooling about fraternal peoples ends, the better for everyone. One granary \ health resort \ forge has already been offered a chic alternative to cotton Russia. Panties and the EU. After all, Russia has always been a pound weight, pulling everyone to the bottom. Now, Ukraine will take off to the shining economic peaks.
  • onix757
    onix757 April 2 2016 08: 53
    -2
    Quote: George 275
    Sayuzu Russia and Belarus to be. Only what events should happen in order to understand that Belarusians have nowhere to go without Russia. In history, events of 70 years ago have already taken place. In the meantime, this is a game of independence.

    Belarus shies away not from Russia, but from the anti-people regime prevailing in the Russian Federation. And these are two big differences.
    1. kuz363
      kuz363 April 2 2016 10: 03
      +2
      Or rather, from the Russian authorities
  • Yak28
    Yak28 April 2 2016 09: 48
    +4
    It is not known who will come to power after Lukashenko and what kind of policies he will pursue, and the people are a gray mass that can be directed in any direction, an example of an event in Ukraine, the collapse of the USSR, support for Yeltsin, remember when Yeltsin introduced Putin to an unknown person and the people majority voted for him because they told him to do it on TV. So the alliance between Russia and Belarus depends only on two kings, and it is not known who will change them and how things will go. I think that the West also wants to gain influence in Belarus and is actively working in this direction, supporting local opposition and nationalists wink
  • kuz363
    kuz363 April 2 2016 10: 02
    -1
    Stillborn state. Which cannot have prospects
  • sergo42
    sergo42 April 2 2016 10: 12
    +6
    And Borka the drunkard and the Old Man and other sovereign princes wanted to rule their own specific garden after the collapse of the USSR. Hence, instead of a normal phenomenon, the republic of Belarus as part of Russia, this strange cross between a hedgehog and a snake - a "union state". And for 20 years of progress in integration, there has been no - on the one hand, endless begging and blackmail on the part of Lukashenka, on the other, to put it mildly, a wary attitude on the part of the Russian leadership. Because even Old Man is not eternal, and no one knows how the situation will turn further. One thing I can say - in the event of a maydaun in Belarus, the struggle there will be much more intense than in the outskirts
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir April 2 2016 11: 03
    +2
    Glory to the Great Yeltsin, uniting Russia and BelloRussia. After two months. in June we will shout the glory of Russia's independence from Belarus.
  • Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev April 2 2016 12: 18
    -4
    got Belarus. I don’t like the quality of oil, then gas is cheaper, then one is the second or the third. I declare a boycott of Belarusian goods, I urge you to this. We will support the domestic producer !!!
    Regarding the gas discount, if it will not be the economy of the Republic of Belarus Khan! But it will be, but under what conditions?

    Belarusians will soon make a choice either by velcom that rushen world or by velcom that european house
  • Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu April 2 2016 12: 18
    0
    When we put things in order, then the neighbors will look back .. And hope for the "lesser" is not worth it (we wanted to play in independence, we will play by the rules as with the rest ... Oh no, we are our own, we want a brother orders, prices, sales) but just that: we have nothing to do with it, this is Russia, its problems are not ours, we are on our own, we have a special position ... and so it is always. It's a shame.
    1. Kostya Andreev
      Kostya Andreev April 2 2016 12: 32
      +2
      And in your understanding, let's put things in order, call the old ones where everything is in order. no perfect countries.
      In the Soviet Union, was the order and result? so you don’t have to wait until they look around, but you just need to use it stupidly, and that’s how our partners do it. business and nothing personal.
      And in the rest of the content of your comment I agree 100%!
      1. Konstantin Yu
        Konstantin Yu April 2 2016 13: 22
        +3
        In my understanding, the order: The supremacy of morality over the law. the rules and law are the same for all, but punishment is inevitable. I don’t know how to achieve quickly, but my intuition tells me the direction.
        I think ".. it's stupid to use .. like all our" partners ", we won't be able to. Otherwise we will become the same" partners ".. a heightened sense of justice and genetic morality will not let us become them ... but conduct an equal trade with real support friend I would like a friend.
        1. Kostya Andreev
          Kostya Andreev April 2 2016 13: 52
          0
          quote = Konstantin Yu.] In my understanding, order: The primacy of morality over the law. the rules and the law are one for all, and the punishment is inevitable [/ quote].
          A wonderful dream, but this will never happen, it’s like they dreamed of communism in the Union, as a result, people appeared who wanted to live abroad, have cars, jeans and other material goods. how we ended up watching. do not have to arrange an experiment now with universal morality!
          Equitable trade will not work, because the categories are different, what can Belarus offer that we don’t have? and if they offer it, at the expense of our manufacturers, as now, with sausage, washing machines and rags!

          And we are already like that, and this is not a genetic memory, and the lack of a sense of justice, it was just from the desire to restore justice, the independent republics, etc. were called occupiers, this will not happen again, we will milk and use it, as Western countries are doing now, and well done
  • koshmarik
    koshmarik April 2 2016 12: 41
    +4
    I understand everything with my mind, but my soul doesn’t lie with Father.
  • Calter
    Calter April 2 2016 13: 02
    +3
    Quote: onix757
    Quote: Basarev
    Because it turned out that without the Russian darma, all these republics are just wild backyards.

    These "backyards" produce products from which the Russian Federation simply cannot refuse.

    Yah? Ukraine had the most developed industry, sharpened by the Russian market. The Maidan authorities imposed an embargo - so what? We are opening production facilities (in the defense industry, first of all). The industry of the republics was built in the USSR, and there was no sense in abandoning the already finished production and logistics chain. And why can such an indispensable CIS country offer the most endowed country with natural resources in the world? Yes, all over the world there are not a dozen products whose production cannot be organized in Russia (I don’t even know what raw materials are NOT in Russia). The question is economic feasibility and the desire of managers to move their ass
  • Torins
    Torins April 2 2016 13: 19
    +1
    Quote: neo.
    the importance of such a structure as the Union of Russia and Belarus is difficult to overestimate.
    Still, I think that the "brothers" left their home. We became adult uncles. We made a choice.

    We became partners. Not even friends! They showed what they are capable of and how the "friend" relates to the "friend" and to Russia. And there is not and there was no senior, junior, ... Someone very cleverly and conveniently invented these definitions! And these "brothers" spit in the face. And Lukashenka too. Begging for loans, discounts, but when meeting with Poroshenko, he says that he does not agree with the annexation of Crimea by Russia, for example (in the back, while probably knowing the history). Does not fulfill oil contracts (just like Ukraine dodges, dodges, wants bearish discounts, only for itself). Russia helps as much as it can, within reasonable limits. But no, they think Russian money, DEMAND, SUSPENDED: "How much you have! Give us! Otherwise we will reward you. We will not give a damn about your anti-European sanctions, and" tolerant "products will be imported to you (using what you have done ( good) with us a single customs, that would be "as it is better"). We will simply "be friends" with tolerasts, if you don’t give money. In short, purely "fraternal" threats and blackmail, meanness!

    Therefore, it will not work to become a brother back.
    As well as after the divorce of the spouses, they do not get married back. (it happens rarely, but anyway - it's not about that.)
    Already everyone understood everything.
    Do not enter the same river twice!

    It has long been confirmed: "Russia has 2 ALLIES - the Army and the Navy !!!"

    The rest are partners!
    They can become friends, but friendship, trust must also be earned. Long. (especially after what was and is)
    And Brothers, freeloaders - NO!

    PS: More and more they will want to return (back to free brothers), tk. more and more they will understand that they have swallowed ("take as much sovereignty as you want!"), ate (or rather starved).

    And at the same time, resentment and shame for it will grow more and more. Accordingly - HATE!
    From love to hate one step. Ukraine made it.
    Belarus has 1 mm left. before touching the sole.
    I emphasize that EVERYONE sees that a step is being taken! Only they think that they can always return to their original position and no one of this type will notice. Or forgive, understand, forget.

    When Russia referend Crimea from Ukraine, did it at least inform Belarus about its plans within the framework of the union state? No, Lukashenka was confronted with the fact "We have acquired a new territory here, we need you to support us, the whole world will really crumble loaves on you, but don't worry", and looks at us as if we are obliged to support any adventures that are with us do not even agree. (If anything, in general, I support the return of Crimea to Russia).
    And second, what for, his allied neighbor was constantly raising gas prices (gas was always ALWAYS sold to Belarus more expensive than to Ukraine) and, moreover, to squeeze a controlling stake in the gas pipe, which passes through Belarus, threatening to raise gas prices to European levels.
    And finally, what the hell was contrary to all union treaties to restrict (and sometimes prohibit) the import of Belarusian products? (primarily sugar, milk).
    Bottom line: Russia got a very patient ally, appreciate us hi
    1. avt
      avt April 2 2016 13: 30
      +1
      Quote: Torins
      When Russia referend Crimea from Ukraine, did it at least inform Belarus about its plans within the framework of the union state? No, Lukashenka was confronted with the fact "We have acquired a new territory here, we need you to support us, the whole world will really crumble loaves on you, but don't worry", and looks at us as if we are obliged to support any adventures that are with us do not even agree. (If anything, in general, I support the return of Crimea to Russia).

      So experience is in the relationship with Butskoy following the war 08.08.08. When he was not even asked, he himself declared that he recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Has the memory gone? Well, so refreshed. laughing
      Quote: Torins
      And second, what for its allied neighbor was constantly raising gas prices

      For whom do you pay from the loan provided by Russia? Yes, but does Father Butska blame for the Kremlin’s guilty difference between the three monetary units?
      Quote: Torins
      Bottom line: Russia got a very patient ally, appreciate us

      Yeah, add Belarus instead of Russia and everything will turn upside down, and if you follow your own advice in the amended version, well, instead of the Great Libyan Pribabahs, then you will have all the ha-sho there. You’ll continue to glitch your version, led by Butskaya, then there are two ways to choose - the Baltic countries, or the Great Ukrs. There will be no third. PS Forgot about
      And finally, what the hell was contrary to all union treaties to restrict (and sometimes prohibit) the import of Belarusian products? (primarily sugar, milk).
      So you were told - do not go crazy with sanctions smuggling! At least for the sake of decency, organize 30% or so processing. And no problem. But even this did not do - they stupidly drove "transit to Kazakhstan".
  • Nicola Bari
    Nicola Bari April 2 2016 13: 22
    +1
    The existence of several states of the same people in the conditions that currently exist between Russia, Ukraine and Belarus are not healthy and are more like schizophrenia. It ended badly with Ukraine (it didn’t end, or rather, but things are already going badly), and it is unlikely that it will be better with Belarus - there are already a lot of bad signs of the impending bad. The existence of such states is possible only with the rejection of Russian, in the presence of anti-Russian, it is neither good nor bad, it is a regularity that cannot be hidden behind any political alliances. It is worth recalling that once the city of Lviv was the center of the Russian resistance to assimilation, but now it is the stronghold of ancient ukrov. The same thing happens with Belarus with us.
    1. avt
      avt April 2 2016 13: 43
      -1
      Quote: Nicola Bari
      . The existence of such states is possible only with the rejection of Russian, in the presence of anti-Russian, it is neither good nor bad, it is a pattern that cannot be hidden behind any political alliances.

      request Well, everything is according to Dostoevsky, everything is according to his reasoning about the Slavs ... then about the Balkans.
  • Torins
    Torins April 2 2016 13: 57
    +1
    Quote: avt

    For whom do you pay from the loan provided by Russia? Yes, but does Father Butska blame for the Kremlin’s guilty difference between the three monetary units?
    Quote: Torins
    Bottom line: Russia got a very patient ally, appreciate us

    Yeah, add Belarus instead of Russia and everything will turn upside down, and if you follow your own advice in the amended version, well, instead of the Great Libyan Pribabahs, then you will have all the ha-sho there. You’ll continue to glitch your version, led by Butskaya, then there are two ways to choose - the Baltic countries, or the Great Ukrs. There will be no third. PS Forgot about
    And finally, what the hell was contrary to all union treaties to restrict (and sometimes prohibit) the import of Belarusian products? (primarily sugar, milk).
    So you were told - do not go crazy with sanctions smuggling! At least for the sake of decency, organize 30% or so processing. And no problem. But even this did not do - they stupidly drove "transit to Kazakhstan".

    1. In the situation with Ossetia, there were no uncertainties in the framework of international law, and secondly, Ossetia was never the nearest neighbor for the Republic of Belarus, trade with which would make up 30% of the total volume, nor any ally with whom we would have dialogue.
    2. Regarding gas, we first of all need it for enterprises that supply you with high-tech products for your own military-industrial complex and for the automotive industry, for machine-tool building and much more for what. All this comes to you at bargain prices like brothers, and the Russian Federation, in response, by increasing prices for raw materials, nullified any profit from cooperation. At the same time, when the conversation comes, that at least a little to raise the price of our products, so that at least some then there was a profit, your management immediately declares - "If something does not suit you, we will build the same factories and in general we will stop buying anything from you." Our enterprises focused on the Russian Federation have been operating for 8 years at zero profit. We are already simply glad that we are able to save jobs and technologies, we no longer dream of profits, but your government always doesn't like something anyway.
    3. 10 years ago, Russia did not introduce any sanctions against the EU, and bans on the supply of products from the Republic of Belarus with enviable periodicity surfaced. And they pop up every time when Lukashenko disagrees with the Kremlin about something.
    4. Regarding loans. Taking a loan to pay off a loan is a worldwide practice, absolutely everyone does it, it’s inapplicable to attribute to Belarusians the invention of a bicycle lol
    1. avt
      avt April 2 2016 14: 22
      0
      Quote: Torins
      1. In the situation with Ossetia, there were no uncertainties in the framework of international law, and secondly, Ossetia was never the nearest neighbor for the Republic of Belarus, trade with which would make up 30% of the total volume, nor any ally with whom we would have dialogue.

      Write in short - and ours and yours for the ruble we will dance. Even if something was promised to someone in a fit of passion, then for grandmother then ... Well, in general, the hosts gave and took their own word.
      Quote: Torins
      . All this comes to you at bargain prices as brothers,

      Is it about centipedes in particular? laughing Hang noodles on the ears of "Buratina" like onix757, they eat it without looking and they won't even look for something on the digital.
      Quote: Torins
      And they pop up every time when Lukashenko disagrees with the Kremlin about something.

      And how else to talk to him in such a situation? Only according to the method of Professor Pavlov, on the creation of stable reflexes. Humanly, he does not understand.
      Quote: Torins
      About loans. Taking a loan to pay off a loan is a worldwide practice, absolutely everyone does it, it’s inapplicable to attribute to Belarusians the invention of a bicycle

      Go and take in China, the EU, the USA and then turn on THEM, “don’t bend us.” So, don’t wake up dashingly, while it’s quiet, "Great-Lithuanian show-offs, some have already awakened the Great Ukrainian ones in earnest. Do you want to know the truth not by someone else's, but actually a risky experience? Wellcome, we can’t forbid you with the innocent, but then blame yourself if you please, and not the Kremlin.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. April 2 2016 14: 25
    +7
    Quote: Basarev
    Quote: prosto_rgb
    Belarus is the best part of Russia!

    It smacks of Nazism. As if the Great Russians are second-class people.

    Read carefully, understand for sure.
    About Belarusians only indirectly, not a word about Russians ...

    But you can continue ...
    According to the results of the Great Patriotic War:
    My homeland (USSR) was not betrayed by sailors, pilots, tankmen and Belarusians!

    And if the respect for Belarusians is interpreted as the smell of Nazism, then I do not envy us all.
  • By001261
    By001261 April 2 2016 14: 32
    +8
    How nice I drove through my hometown today! RUSSIAN FLAGS are hanging everywhere !!!!!
    Straight soul rejoices !!!!
  • Torins
    Torins April 2 2016 14: 40
    +2
    Quote: avt
    Quote: Torins
    1. In the situation with Ossetia, there were no uncertainties in the framework of international law, and secondly, Ossetia was never the nearest neighbor for the Republic of Belarus, trade with which would make up 30% of the total volume, nor any ally with whom we would have dialogue.

    Write in short - and ours and yours for the ruble we will dance. Even if something was promised to someone in a fit of passion, then for grandmother then ... Well, in general, the hosts gave and took their own word.
    Quote: Torins
    . All this comes to you at bargain prices as brothers,

    Is it about centipedes in particular? laughing Hang noodles on the ears of "Buratina" like onix757, they eat it without looking and they won't even look for something on the digital.
    Quote: Torins
    And they pop up every time when Lukashenko disagrees with the Kremlin about something.

    And how else to talk to him in such a situation? Only according to the method of Professor Pavlov, on the creation of stable reflexes. Humanly, he does not understand.
    Quote: Torins
    About loans. Taking a loan to pay off a loan is a worldwide practice, absolutely everyone does it, it’s inapplicable to attribute to Belarusians the invention of a bicycle

    Go and take in China, the EU, the USA and then turn on THEM, “don’t bend us.” So, don’t wake up dashingly, while it’s quiet, "Great-Lithuanian show-offs, some have already awakened the Great Ukrainian ones in earnest. Do you want to know the truth not by someone else's, but actually a risky experience? Wellcome, we can’t forbid you with the innocent, but then blame yourself if you please, and not the Kremlin.

    In general, all your reasoning can be reduced to one conclusion:
    1. Belarus is not an equal ally for the Russian Federation, simply because without resources from the Russian Federation Belarus will be bent, and if so, Lukashenko should do what he is told and keep silent in a rag.
    2. Despite the fact that Belarus is the only reliable ally for the Russian Federation and we have a bunch of agreements in the style of "Peace, friendship, chewing gum, a single economic space and a defense system" Belarus is something second-rate and if it does not agree with Moscow on something, then agreements with RB can be violated. And then in general the Belarusians got sick, they don't like the witnesses that they are trying to control them.
    3. Belarusians are overgrown in general, they want to replenish their treasury from cooperation with the Russian Federation. No one should ever earn money working with Russia. Everything is only for mother Moscow.
    P.S. And after such an attitude towards an equal ally on all documents, the Russians are still surprised that this is their relationship with the Republic of Belarus deteriorating ... lol
    1. Kostya Andreev
      Kostya Andreev April 2 2016 14: 53
      -1
      1. Yes, it will bend, and it is already bent because using the benefits it is impossible to conduct a double game. for example, if I depend on the buyer of my products who supplies me with energy and materials for production, I will not pursue a policy hostile to him. and dad is in the order of things.
      2 Russia has only two reliable allies: the army and the navy, the rest are only partners.
      The Russian Federation had a lot of agreements with different countries, and to the point, and with Belarus, you’ll need to forget about cookies, and you’ll talk about occupation,
      3. they are not scabbling, but they are naive, they think that by singing a mantra about brotherhood you can pump money, regions of Russia must earn money, and others should get paid and when trying (this is a European approach, Germany earns and the Baltic states get paid).
      The Russians have changed a lot, and as a Russian, it makes no difference to me what kind of relations we have with Belarus and what kind of economy they have, the main thing is that I feel good for my children.
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag April 3 2016 08: 27
        +1
        Quote: Kostya Andreev
        Russia has only two reliable allies: the army and the navy

        This ended in 1917, when some officers of the army of the Russian Empire tried to fulfill their certain "allied duty", and as a result were defeated by a new army created on February 23, 1918, which then beat all the others who tried to attack, but then December 1991 happened years and the army, together with the fleet (well, the special services there too) swore allegiance to the ranks, against which it fought so much and suffered losses. Attention to all who reproduce the quoted mantra, which allies do you have in mind? Army sample 1877?
    2. pofigisst74
      pofigisst74 April 2 2016 15: 35
      0
      Everyone shouts about equal rights, but completely forgets about obligations. We didn’t see any kind of support from Crimea, nor from Syria, nor from Abkhazia and Ossetia from the Old Man. Like, you send money and gas, and eat the sanctions yourself. We do not have. request
    3. Winnie76
      Winnie76 April 2 2016 15: 47
      0
      Quote: Torins
      1. Belarus is not an equal ally for the Russian Federation, simply because without resources from the Russian Federation Belarus will be bent, and if so, Lukashenko should do what he is told and keep silent in a rag.

      Of course not. Nipple system. Everything to Belarus - nothing back. Let a child living at the expense of his parents teach life, and a parent who earns his hump will be silent in a rag. So what? So far, like Lukashenko asks for money from Putin, and not vice versa.

      Quote: Torins
      2. Despite the fact that Belarus is the only reliable ally for the Russian Federation and we have a bunch of agreements in the styles of "Peace, friendship, chewing gum, a single economic space and a defense system"

      How long has he been the only and reliable? I remind you of Abkhazia, Georgia, Ukraine, Crimea, the air base, shrimp, MZKT, Syria. Is this all evidence of reliability?
      Quote: Torins
      And then, in general, Belarusians are overgrown, they do not like the viewers that they are trying to manage.

      God be with you. Go in peace. The EU is waiting for you, but it’s easier for us with a budget wink
      Quote: Torins
      3. Belarusians are overgrown in general, they want to replenish their treasury from cooperation with the Russian Federation. No one should ever earn money working with Russia.

      Well, smuggling is a solid way to make money. Ukraine was not given, and Belarusians are allies. They can. And you can also get oil at Russian prices, and sell at European prices. Non-repaying loans is also a very worthy way.
      Quote: Torins
      Everything is only for mother Moscow.

      Here we are in Russia.
      Quote: Torins
      P.S. And after such an attitude towards an equal ally on all documents, the Russians are still surprised that this is their relationship with the Republic of Belarus deteriorating ...

      We have a bursting budget from so many reliable and equal allies. Send something to Syria for a look, to fight with ISIS, allies
    4. avt
      avt April 2 2016 16: 01
      0
      Quote: Torins
      . Belarus is not an equal ally for the Russian Federation,

      It’s not, well, not according to Sanka’s hat Monomakh
      Quote: Torins
      simply because without resources from the Russian Federation Belarus will bend, and if so, Lukashenko must do what they say to him and keep silent in a rag.

      This is the minimum that en could do, well, by analogy with the National Academy of Sciences, BUT - the one has an old upbringing and the brain starts working before the mouth utters the word.
      Quote: Torins
      . Despite the fact that Belarus is the only reliable ally for the Russian Federation and we have a bunch of agreements in style

      laughing In, in! Cardboard fool from folders for contracts.
      Quote: Torins
      and defense system

      wassat Who with whom and where? laughing How is the base of the Russian Aerospace Forces? But father is already in the know? Or maybe en
      Quote: Torins
      Despite the fact that Belarus is the only reliable ally for the Russian Federation

      ONE, or TWO soldiers sent to the coalition with Russia for the global fight against terrorism in Syria? laughing Let me guess - I didn’t pay the GDP pit, ryski, and the last lending is not in my account. With such ally like that of the song, I’m not a friend or an enemy, and so “enemies are definitely not needed. The Balts and those from the prYntsip with the USA climbed into Afghanistan.
      1. avt
        avt April 2 2016 16: 03
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        And more
        Quote: Torins
        . And then, in general, Belarusians are overgrown, they do not like the viewers that they are trying to manage.

        For the money that Russia has invested in you and is investing, the EU would have turned Belarus worse than Greece with fur inside, again, the Baltic states are nearby, BUT - it’s not going to feed a horse.
        Quote: Torins
        And after such an attitude towards an equal ally on all documents, the Russians are still surprised that this is their relationship with the Republic of Belarus deteriorating ...

        "Equal" ours when when was the last time they looked ... well, at least at the percentage of the "joint" budget of the state government? You don't want to refresh and show the interest? Do we only prefer to ride on the ears with "equality"? And Russia should pay for the banquet and ... "Don't bend us down"?
        Quote: Torins
        Russians are also surprised

        I don’t know how the Russians understand, but riding on the ears with an "equal brotherhood" got quite a lot of people, especially against the background of Ukraine. In short, read Pushkin's "The Tale of the Fisherman and the Fish" among all the "ancient", "proud" ,,, independent "new nations and states from the republics of the former USSR, this should be a handbook and you need to re-read it every day at night, and judging by the comments, even in the morning in person.
    5. combat66
      combat66 April 2 2016 23: 19
      +5
      No need to generalize, according to individual statements on the VO, nothing spoils with us. So, individuals are verbiage, stuffing their own price.
      Minsk today is full of Russian flags and guests in Russian numbers. And with each month more cars from the Russian Federation (Occupied by silent glanders) wink Our goods are also reaching for Smolensk, we have a crisis, people smell the benefits of smell. We have an order of magnitude fewer opportunites jumping from us than in the capital of Russia (leave our lousy fleas to us, deal with yours!)
      I watched the bed scenes with the former prime minister of the Russian Federation ... Yes, guys, you have not to transplant them yet ... laughing
      And by the summer, even friends from Russia will catch up, smoke bamboo on the Neman ....
      Oh, and Altai hunt so hit the road, look at the mythical beauty ....
      So what the hell are you skeptics, it is not yet known which of us is more Russian! smile
  • Starik72
    Starik72 April 2 2016 15: 06
    +5
    I will not comment on this article. I’ll write one thing, I would like an equal UNION between Russia and Belarus, without the dictatorship of my older brother. But a normal UNION has not yet been achieved because of YOUR and OUR bureaucrats-liberals and oligarchs.
    1. avt
      avt April 2 2016 16: 21
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      Quote: Starik72
      . I’ll write one thing, I would like an equal UNION between Russia and Belarus, without the dictatorship of my older brother. But a normal UNION has not yet been achieved because of YOUR and OUR bureaucrats-liberals and oligarchs.

      Or maybe because ... well, for example, the budget of the state government is not formed at the rate of 50% to 50% wassat ??? Well, if the allies are equal and with equal responsibilities ??? wassat
  • Torins
    Torins April 2 2016 15: 45
    +1
    Quote: Kostya Andrei
    1. Yes, it will bend, and it is already bent because using the benefits it is impossible to conduct a double game. for example, if I depend on the buyer of my products who supplies me with energy and materials for production, I will not pursue a policy hostile to him. and dad is in the order of things.
    2 Russia has only two reliable allies: the army and the navy, the rest are only partners.
    The Russian Federation had a lot of agreements with different countries, and to the point, and with Belarus, you’ll need to forget about cookies, and you’ll talk about occupation,
    3. they are not scabbling, but they are naive, they think that by singing a mantra about brotherhood you can pump money, regions of Russia must earn money, and others should get paid and when trying (this is a European approach, Germany earns and the Baltic states get paid).
    The Russians have changed a lot, and as a Russian, it makes no difference to me what kind of relations we have with Belarus and what kind of economy they have, the main thing is that I feel good for my children.

    You and your children will not be very happy if you spoil your relations with your neighbor with such an approach that you expel all Russian bases from the territory of the Republic of Belarus and deploy a missile defense system and a couple of NATO military bases 600 km from Moscow. Pah-pah-pah so that this never happened, but if the Russian Federation does not go astray from the steadily increasing economic and political pressure on the Republic of Belarus, then this is quite possible. For loyalty, you must pay with loyalty, and not try to bend everyone around you, even those who initially treat you more than friendly. Belarusians are not Ukrainians, we are difficult to climb and appreciate what we have, but if, due to the actions of a friend and brother, we start cooking belts in pots, then we can forget about brotherhood.
    You say that Uraina betrayed you? Ukraine has never betrayed you, it has never been for one with the Russian Federation since the collapse of the USSR. It was necessary to take a closer look at what Ukrainian children are taught in schools and what they say in the media, it was not difficult to understand 20 years ago that friendship between the Russian Federation and Ukraine is not possible for the same reason as friendship with Poland, because of the ongoing there are politicians.
    We have always been taught that Russia is a friend and brother to us, 98% of the population in our country consider Russian to be their native language, our economies are integrated to a much greater extent than Ukraine and the Russian Federation, we have never refused this and never considered friendship with the Russian Federation than something bad and shameful. But judging by how rapidly respect for the Belarusian people and the statehood of Russia is rapidly losing in the Russian Federation, it is easier to have around some enemies than at least a couple of friends.
    In general, I hope that in order to survive as a state of the Republic of Belarus, you never have to look for new friends. I hope that the Russian Federation will change its attitude towards Belarus for the better, and not as a temporarily breakaway province, which, if put on its knees and hold a referendum, can be taken back. And it is precisely in this direction that the policy of the Russian Federation with respect to Belarus has shifted.
    1. avt
      avt April 2 2016 16: 17
      +1
      Quote: Torins
      You and your children will not be very happy if you spoil your relations with your neighbor with such an approach that you expel all Russian bases from the territory of the Republic of Belarus and deploy a missile defense system and a couple of NATO military bases 600 km from Moscow. Pah-pah-pah so that this never happened, but if the Russian Federation does not go astray from the steadily increasing economic and political pressure on the Republic of Belarus, then this is quite possible.

      So already in accordance with the threat, we are building a completely defensive line near Smolensk. Hope for batskin - "we protect you" - do not respect yourself.
      Quote: Torins
      . For loyalty you have to pay loyalty

      But didn’t you try to say this to Butler and try to live by this rule yourself? For such pennies that Belarus was weighed out and political support, "the last dictator of Europe", Russia could hear not only "you fool, a simpleton, I do not want to be a columnar noblewoman .." well, except for the words of the case.
      Quote: Torins
      . I hope that the Russian Federation will change its attitude towards Belarus for the better,

      How !? Again the money is over! ? Just weighed $ 500 million from a loan of 5 billion with a hook ..... request wassat Type of appetite while eating came ???
      Quote: Torins
      and not as a temporary breakaway province, which if you put on your knees and hold a referendum can be taken back.

      Or maybe it will cost so cheaper, well, for ALL? Again, the bridge does not need to be built for 20 kilometers. For Russia, it’s so exact in all respects. But do not be afraid, until you level up, no one will touch you there. Ukraine and I have something to do for our eyes for a dozen years. But something tells me, namely that the Poles and your young people work very well, oooh, work very well, level up. But there is still hope for Europe, well, I'm talking about migrants.
      1. onix757
        onix757 April 2 2016 16: 30
        +1
        Quote: avt
        So already, and in accordance with the threat, we are building a defensive line near Smolensk.

        laughing
  • Torins
    Torins April 2 2016 16: 02
    -2
    Quote: pofigisst74
    Everyone shouts about equal rights, but completely forgets about obligations. We didn’t see any kind of support from Crimea, nor from Syria, nor from Abkhazia and Ossetia from the Old Man. Like, you send money and gas, and eat the sanctions yourself. We do not have. request

    There was support for Abkhazia and Ossetia. As for the Crimea, we have a union state with a JOINTly pursued policy, and nobody asked or notified the Republic of Belarus on the issue of Crimea, they simply confronted the fact that Belarus and Ukraine should become enemies. Therefore, Lukashenko refrained from recognizing Crimea as part of the Russian Federation. Note, there was no non-recognition, only abstained.
  • Torins
    Torins April 2 2016 16: 31
    +2
    Quote: avt
    And more
    Quote: Torins
    . And then, in general, Belarusians are overgrown, they do not like the viewers that they are trying to manage.

    For the money that Russia has invested in you and is investing, the EU would have turned Belarus worse than Greece with fur inside, again, the Baltic states are nearby, BUT - it’s not going to feed a horse.
    Quote: Torins
    And after such an attitude towards an equal ally on all documents, the Russians are still surprised that this is their relationship with the Republic of Belarus deteriorating ...

    "Equal" ours when when was the last time they looked ... well, at least at the percentage of the "joint" budget of the state government? You don't want to refresh and show the interest? Do we only prefer to ride on the ears with "equality"? And Russia should pay for the banquet and ... "Don't bend us down"?
    Quote: Torins
    Russians are also surprised

    I don’t know how the Russians understand, but riding on the ears with an "equal brotherhood" got quite a lot of people, especially against the background of Ukraine. In short, read Pushkin's "The Tale of the Fisherman and the Fish" among all the "ancient", "proud" ,,, independent "new nations and states from the republics of the former USSR, this should be a handbook and you need to re-read it every day at night, and judging by the comments, even in the morning in person.

    Russia donated only two divisions issued in the 88th year of the S-300 gave us, and then rather for its own safety. We borrow everything else which we pay all the time, i.e. it is not free.
    Why do you need a VKS base in the Republic of Belarus if and so in the Republic of Belarus the Su-27SM squadron on an ongoing basis, and also our aviation in addition. Although we don’t have as many planes as we would have deployed a Russian division there, this is more than enough for peacetime as a deterrent. Thank God RB is not yet a puppet of the Kremlin to spoil already strained relations with other neighbors for the sake of deploying a regiment of fighter jets. The Republic of Belarus does not have confidence that the Kremlin will reimburse all associated losses for the Republic of Belarus associated with the severance of deep relations with neighboring countries. And that's exactly what they told us - put in your place a full-fledged base of the Russian Aerospace Forces and can forget about any dialogue with you.
    And about the percentage of the budget ... 9 million Belarusians should be thrown into the joint budget as much as 150 million Russians? Have a conscience)) Or since we are less, then you are better and you have more rights? And what do you call good neighborly relations?))) We do not consume as much money as the Russian Federation consumes, which means our contribution is commensurate with our capabilities and needs)
    1. avt
      avt April 2 2016 19: 51
      +1
      Quote: Torins
      Russia donated only two divisions issued in the 88th year of the S-300 gave us, and then rather for its own safety. We borrow everything else which we pay all the time, i.e. it is not free.

      laughing Aha! Straight ,, Robbery in Italian "- ,, a descendant of the princes of Brindisi (read Rodzivilov) knows what a debt of honor" So now the GDP has been begged for 3 yards of loans and debt restructuring to Russia. From the Russian pocket, Russian debts are proudly returning?
      Quote: Torins
      Why do you need a VKS base in the Republic of Belarus if and so in the Republic of Belarus the Su-27SM squadron on an ongoing basis, and also our aviation in addition.

      And right there
      Quote: Torins
      . Thank God RB is not yet a puppet of the Kremlin to spoil already strained relations with other neighbors for the sake of deploying a regiment of fighter jets.

      Not a puppet, that's for sure, but a profursetka.
      Quote: Torins
      The Republic of Belarus does not have confidence that the Kremlin will reimburse all associated losses for the Republic of Belarus associated with the severance of deep relations with neighboring countries. And that's exactly what they told us - put in your place a full-fledged base of the Russian Aerospace Forces and can forget about any dialogue with you.

      Well, once again - either put on your panties, well, in the sense, decide who and what you are for Russia, or stay without these European people, but then remove the cross - do not go over your ears with your "state of the art"
      Quote: Torins
      And about the percentage of the budget ... 9 million Belarusians should be thrown into the joint budget as much as 150 million Russians? Have a conscience))

      Type you lost yours and calmly demand equality? Well, 7 million from 140?
      Quote: Torins
      , so our contribution is commensurate with our capabilities and needs)

      Only inquiries are like that of adults, here you’ll take them and stretch your legs for clothes, but they decided that impudence is the second happiness. Well - go for it.
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb April 2 2016 22: 54
      0
      Quote: Torins
      The Republic of Belarus does not have confidence that the Kremlin will reimburse all associated losses for the Republic of Belarus associated with the severance of deep relations with neighboring countries. And that's exactly what they told us - put in your place a full-fledged base of the Russian Aerospace Forces and can forget about any dialogue with you.

      That is why the Kremlin needs this base.
      That would RB forever was under sanction, well, and then yes, a hybrid referendum.
  • Torins
    Torins April 2 2016 16: 58
    -1
    Quote: avt
    Quote: Torins
    You and your children will not be very happy if you spoil your relations with your neighbor with such an approach that you expel all Russian bases from the territory of the Republic of Belarus and deploy a missile defense system and a couple of NATO military bases 600 km from Moscow. Pah-pah-pah so that this never happened, but if the Russian Federation does not go astray from the steadily increasing economic and political pressure on the Republic of Belarus, then this is quite possible.

    So already in accordance with the threat, we are building a completely defensive line near Smolensk. Hope for batskin - "we protect you" - do not respect yourself.
    Quote: Torins
    . For loyalty you have to pay loyalty

    But didn’t you try to say this to Butler and try to live by this rule yourself? For such pennies that Belarus was weighed out and political support, "the last dictator of Europe", Russia could hear not only "you fool, a simpleton, I do not want to be a columnar noblewoman .." well, except for the words of the case.
    Quote: Torins
    . I hope that the Russian Federation will change its attitude towards Belarus for the better,

    How !? Again the money is over! ? Just weighed $ 500 million from a loan of 5 billion with a hook ..... request wassat Type of appetite while eating came ???
    Quote: Torins
    and not as a temporary breakaway province, which if you put on your knees and hold a referendum can be taken back.

    Or maybe it will cost so cheaper, well, for ALL? Again, the bridge does not need to be built for 20 kilometers. For Russia, it’s so exact in all respects. But do not be afraid, until you level up, no one will touch you there. Ukraine and I have something to do for our eyes for a dozen years. But something tells me, namely that the Poles and your young people work very well, oooh, work very well, level up. But there is still hope for Europe, well, I'm talking about migrants.

    It is for such an attitude towards oneself as to the highest dissipation, and to others as to lackey servants that the Russian Federation does not like in the world as a whole and even those who loved before begin to dislike. Be simpler and maybe reach for you. And about the debt to the Russian Federation, one might think that the Russian Federation owes nothing to anyone. How much is external debt in the Russian Federation? What about the inside?
    All countries of the world, including the Russian Federation, have public debt. The presence of a public debt is due to many factors, but most often, states attract borrowed funds to pay off the budget deficit or to make payments on current debt obligations.



    Public debt is divided into external and internal. Today, Russia's total debt is approximately 34.7 trillion. rubles, which in terms of US dollars is 694 billion. At the same time, the bulk of the debt - more than 86% is external debt.
    1. avt
      avt April 2 2016 19: 55
      0
      Quote: Torins
      It is for such an attitude towards oneself as to the highest dissipation, and to others as to lackey servants that the Russian Federation does not like in the world as a whole and even those who loved before begin to dislike.

      Well, that finally cut through the sharpshooter Svidomo of the ancient Lithuanian race. And let's also talk about the Horde, the Finougrians and Mongoloids, well, all the things that the true Slavs differ from Muscovites laughing
      Quote: Torins
      . And about the debt to the Russian Federation, one might think that the Russian Federation owes nothing to anyone. How much is external debt in the Russian Federation? What about the inside?

      Oh how! This is when it was inside Russia that it turned out to be with Belarus !? laughing Consider that you are independent, self-righteous must, and independent Russia does not concern you. Yes ! At Dostoevsky's leisure, read about the Slavs, I laid out, well, if you do not find, and Pushkin's fairy tale "The Tale of the Fisherman and the Fish" at night and in the morning.
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb April 2 2016 22: 58
      +2
      Quote: Torins
      It is for such an attitude towards oneself as to the highest dissipation, and to others as to lackey servants that the Russian Federation does not like in the world as a whole and even those who loved before begin to dislike. Be simpler and maybe reach for you. And about the debt to the Russian Federation, one might think that the Russian Federation owes nothing to anyone. How much is external debt in the Russian Federation? What about the inside?

      You are just like a little.
      Russia has only 2 allies: Army and Navy !!!
      Which by the way is constantly claimed on this site as well.
      Accordingly, the rest are either enemies or a colony.
      Now a simple and logical question:
      RB - Army? - NO.
      RB - Fleet? - NO.
      Is RB a colony? - It seems like it’s not at all.
      What is left?