Indonesia will buy from Russia to 10 multi-purpose fighter Su-35

It was confirmed by the information that Indonesia is going to purchase from Russia up to ten of the latest Su-35 multi-role fighters. In the material Bloomberg With reference to the head of the Indonesian Defense Ministry, Ryamizard Ryachuda, reports that the deal for the purchase of Su-35 planes by the Ministry of Defense of the East Asian state may be concluded in early April. The amount of the contract is not reported.

At the same time, the Indonesian minister says that the country's military department does not set itself the task of purchasing military equipment from a certain state. According to Mr. Ryachuda, Indonesia is also ready to buy airplanes from the United States and European Union countries. At the same time, he added that the most important thing in making a choice is the best ratio of “quality-affordability” indicators.

The Indonesian Minister of Defense noted that recently he was worried about the fact that the revitalization of Chinese courts in the area of ​​a number of disputed islands in the South China Sea was worrying. To patrol the air borders of Indonesia in the region adjacent to the disputed islands, official Jakarta will draw an additional five F-16 fighter jets.

Comments

[DenZ]

Chances are good that this whole purchase is only for our "potential friends" to find out the possibilities of the 35th.

[Svyatogor]

Yes, our "dryers" have shown what they are capable of, soon there will be a queue for them.

[Nevsky_ZU]

A fresh video, the release of the program is being prepared, while the pieces are thrown to us:

[bertgolz]

what brought down these dryers, for which the line was lined up?

[rubidium]

Quote: bertgolz

what brought down these dryers, for which the line was lined up?

first learn arithmetic, and then write.

[Kubyanka]

Learn to distinguish the SU-35 - a heavy generation 4 ++ fighter and the old SU-24 front-line bomber.

[ser-pov]

Try it, knock it off ....

[Blondy]

Quote: DenZ

Chances are good that this whole purchase is only for our "potential friends" to find out the possibilities of the 35th.

So what, in my opinion, this is an intermediate option - they have successfully promoted in Syria and will be exported. Well, for our own - the T-50, which is already on the way. Most likely, the T-50 with the "first stage" engine will also be in the export version. It would be nice to throw a couple of these for PR and running in Syria, at least for a short time, the excitement should be indescribable, especially since the factory tests are successfully completed and 8 pieces are already being driven to the state ones, and within the framework of the state test program it is possible in Syria slightly run in. But there are also possible risks that this couple could screw up the Su35 in the sense of commerce. Everyone will start saving money and waiting for the T-50.

[Basarev]

I look at the Su-35 and wonder: why has no one created a three-engine jet fighter?

[DenZ]

As for the intermediate version, almost any aircraft can be said to be so (the T-50 is also intermediate between the 4th and 6th generation) That's not the point. The aircraft is new and we are armed with far from as many as we would like. I hope the Su-35 in the export version is greatly simplified.

[Pirogov]

Quote: DenZ

Chances are good that this whole purchase is only for our "potential friends" to find out the possibilities of the 35th.

This is one hundred%.

[Ai yai]

At the same time, he added that the main thing in making a choice is the best ratio of “quality - availability” indicators.

If you believe these words, then most likely the planes of "other states" will not find a place in the procurement program)

[lis-ik]

Our friends have long figured out everything, just like we are talking about them, but Chinese friends, for example, not only find out, they also copy.

[Altona]

Quote: lis-ik

but Chinese friends, for example, not only find out, they also copy.

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Rather "reproduce". Nevertheless, when you watch tank biathlon, for example, you can see how the "reproduced" unit differs from the source. I was not impressed by the Chinese tank, for example. It's about the same story with planes. The Chinese everywhere try to cram "their logic" into the design. It turns out "fifty fifty", which is good, which is not. Opportunities to cram a more informative avionics are in principle exhausted, then only a drone, because a person does not have more capabilities than a computer that gives information.

[Basarev]

Only the inertia of thinking interferes with drones. I see a whole hysteria about the possibility of intercepting a remote control ... But something, I have not seen a single case of intercepting the guidance of an anti-tank missile launched from a helicopter, but in fact it is almost the same thing. So I - for crewless combat vehicles controlled remotely.

[Bronik]

Here in the sky they will see how good the Chinese copy is.

[cap]

Quote: bronik

Here in the sky they will see how good the Chinese copy is.

Moreover, it is difficult not to notice ten pieces.
The tanks at the biathlon looked pale.

[lukewarm]

Su-35 is not being copied yet - they are buying.

[Safer]

Quote: lis-ik

Our friends have long figured out everything, just like we are talking about them, but Chinese friends, for example, not only find out, they also copy.

Here, not so long ago, somewhere I watched as an engineer Sukhov explained that they could copy something, but something not, because there is no technology for obtaining certain materials. For example, cited engine blades. The Chinese haven’t copied so much. Is that su-27, so they have it and so it was issued under license. In the case of the 35th, they asked, it seems, in the appendage to the contract 40% of the production technology.

[Mountain shooter]

Indonesia is not China; it cannot copy planes. And for a serious mess, they do not need 10 aircraft, but 200, for which they have no budget. Let them buy. The Chinese have not yet managed to establish even 27 engines, their pilots prefer aircraft with Russian engines (I want to live). And they continue to be purchased. And the 35th - the engines are already different, the next generation. So let them copy. While being mastered, we already have the T-50th at the exit.

[mitrich]

The 35s themselves in the VKS have cried, and we are already signing up for dozens of pieces for export. It will turn out like with the T-90, the foreigners are full of them, but in our army there are several dozen, and in the mass more "slop" T-72s. We do not love ourselves ...

[lukewarm]

Undoubtedly a plus. The grimaces of a market economy. Who pays - the tanks. Our defense ministry can still afford the modernization of the T-72B3. How much cheaper it is T-90 - I do not know. Probably there is infa. And most likely the Nass has a lot of old 72s that need to be modernized than to make new T-90s. Probably something like that.

[DIMA45R]

They would not have sold the old, but bought modern ones with these funds. And so they stand and are morally obsolete. As I understand it, this should happen, I hope this happens ...

[Winnie76]

Do you seriously believe that in the military aviation market you can push someone unnecessary junk for good money? There, for every potential buyer, a squabble goes, so shreds fly. There will be a contract - wonderful, there will be salaries for hard workers, purchase prices for their own army will fall.

[hartlend]

Maybe up to 10. Not news, but fortunetelling. Surely a decent government order for the Su-35, there will be little left to watch.

[kirieeleyson]

Read, almost a squadron, for a year the contract can be closed. But there are 3 factors that confuse:
1. Will there be enough capacity to close export contracts without prejudice to the state defense order? Who knows the topic from the inside, enlighten how dispersed production is.
2. A small party, it is possible to scatter it around the USA and the Melkobrit, to work out the counteraction, because Indonesia easily re-exports everything.
3. What are the characteristics of the export for Indonesia will be?))

[VP]

The size of the state defense order does not depend on production capacities, but on the allocated municipal budget.
Moreover, export deliveries are carried out over several years, agreed by parties.
If there is a suspicion that the contract may interfere with the state defense order, then it does not pass approval.

[pavelty]

Produced in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, about 50 units were delivered to the aerospace forces, it is planned to increase to 100 units. Until 2020, there is always a place for export contracts (without prejudice to state defense orders) and this is beneficial for the plant.

[Pvi1206]

How much is it? One is also up to ten.

[krops777]

Oh, it’s not casual, all of them, countries of Southeast Asia rushed to increase their military potential.

[nivander]

The fruits of the Syrian presentation

[pavelty]

And my source (he certainly is not Bloomberg) said that there before signing the contract, as before Canada with cancer))

[Ajent cho]

to 10

Zero is also included in this concept. Again: "buy". Maybe he will buy, maybe not. FAT minus the author.

[samoletil18]

“Indonesia will buy” and Indonesia's consideration of buying things is somewhat different. The author would stick a pen in w ...! I would write it as is, I would not click on the article.

[ser-pov]

Buy not buy, do not give a shit deeply! The main thing is that we have in the VKS ...