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Near Donetsk, the militia fired back artillery fire

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On Friday, towards evening, the intensity of the shelling near Donetsk increased markedly, artillery was used on both sides, the blog reports colonelcassad.


Near Donetsk, the militia fired back artillery fire


The already well-known settlements became the main sticking points: “Peski-Avdiivka arc, Zaitsevo arc, Avdiivka industrial zone, Experienced, etc.,” the blogger writes.

According to him, “battles continue to be of a positional nature, while sources from the field (both military and civilian) report that the intensity of the fire begins to increase in the evening.”

The report notes that “in addition to the 82mm and 120mm mortars, guns with a caliber of 122 mm and 152 mm are used”.

"Both sides continue to suffer losses from both artillery and mortar fire, and from the actions of snipers, as well as from explosions on mines," reports colonelcassad.

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http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com, Донбасс.медиа
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  1. avvg
    avvg April 1 2016 12: 25
    +28
    In Washington, "Porssenko" apparently gave the go-ahead for the war.
    1. avt
      avt April 1 2016 12: 27
      +17
      Quote: avvg
      Porsenka was apparently given the go-ahead for war.

      And the money of millions under 300 $. Just enough for the war and that's enough.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 1 2016 12: 28
        +6
        Quote: avt
        And millions of money under $ 300.

        So the Americans ask Senya to fry, without this they will not give. recourse
        1. avt
          avt April 1 2016 12: 51
          +9
          Quote: Vladimirets
          So the Americans ask Senya to fry, without this they will not give.

          what Or maybe vice versa - leave? request Like you didn’t set, but Nuland, so she will decide.
          Quote: sever.56
          These lyamov dill not be seen as their ears. Weapons, ammunition and ammunition will not be!
          All of them will be spent on training ukrokiborgov (read the salary and feeding of American instructors) ...

          I won’t even argue. laughing In the same way, almost all loans, with a small share, went off in the form of payments on debts of the Rothschilds to Franklin Templeton.
        2. lukewarm
          lukewarm April 1 2016 13: 05
          +2
          Senya (aka he, aka pisya, a miscarriage) is an agent and creature of Americans.
      2. sever.56
        sever.56 April 1 2016 12: 33
        +7
        Quote: avt
        And millions of money under $ 300.


        These lyamov dill not be seen as their ears. Weapons, ammunition and ammunition will not be!
        All of them will be spent on training ukrokiborgov (read the salary and feeding of American instructors) ...
      3. ,
        , April 1 2016 12: 35
        +3
        Damn that they are all mean to them. And Piglets stroked the head-tsuka !! And just in case, Perdogan caught Chelik, suddenly Obama would not accept, and the holiday season begins.
      4. Vend
        Vend April 1 2016 12: 37
        +2
        Quote: avt
        Quote: avvg
        Porsenka was apparently given the go-ahead for war.

        And the money of millions under 300 $. Just enough for the war and that's enough.

        They haven’t given him anything yet. They promised if they would assemble a new cabinet. Yes, and will not give the dough. The promised three years are waiting. laughing
        1. Bulrumeb
          Bulrumeb April 1 2016 14: 12
          0
          They haven’t given him anything yet. They promised if they would assemble a new cabinet. Yes, and will not give the dough. The promised three years are waiting.

          So he seems to be in a hurry to work out for the future
      5. iConst
        iConst April 1 2016 12: 39
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Quote: avvg
        Porsenka was apparently given the go-ahead for war.

        And the money of millions under 300 $. Just enough for the war and that's enough.

        - More likely the opposite. Loot is given for government reforms - read: reducing corruption to an acceptable level.
        And the activation is rather connected precisely by the pressure on the implementation of Minsk, and the leaders are rushing about with an unconscious hazy thought, "we can do it." Or at least to squeeze out a couple of villages - the "separatists" will get less and less.

        I do not think that in Ukraine the junta acts in concert - rather, it is a swan, cancer and pike.
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas April 1 2016 13: 03
          +1
          Quote: iConst
          Loot is given under ... a reduction in corruption to an acceptable value.
          It would be better if they gave money for the construction of the City of the Sun: faster and cheaper.
        2. avt
          avt April 1 2016 13: 16
          0
          Quote: iConst
          - More likely the opposite. Salvage is given under government reform

          No. Biden specifically said - to TRAIN police, border guards ... well, in general, like the security forces. So that
          Quote: iConst
          read: reducing corruption to an acceptable level.

          Yeah - to pay for the USA instructors at the training grounds, and the Great-Breeds will have only debts - to pay for this "training" later.
      6. REDBLUE
        REDBLUE April 1 2016 13: 05
        0
        Spring!!! it's only the beginning. The states threw money to powder. Will begin now
      7. self-propelled
        self-propelled April 1 2016 14: 03
        0
        Quote: avt
        And the money of millions under 300 $. Just enough for the war and that's enough.

        Drop it. God forbid at least 30 "Baku" lyams (and it is better that they were not) reached the army. nowadays in Ukraine they charge a lot for transactions ...
      8. Lily
        Lily April 2 2016 02: 59
        0
        Usrain will not receive this money. They all disperse in the United States, such as consultants, training and non-lethal arming of the United States production.
    2. cniza
      cniza April 1 2016 12: 28
      +5
      S .. they’re restless, they’ve been promised something to them and are waiting for everything to dry out, but for now, reconnaissance and shooting.
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    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 1 2016 12: 30
      +38
      Synopsis of the military situation in Donetsk from the military commissar "Mage"

      The last day of March brought us new sacrifices, destroyed houses and suffering.
      It all started at 06:30 in the Avdeevka industrial zone. By militia, an attempt was made to break through a small APU reconnaissance group, which was going to seep through positions and occupy several houses. The same situation at 06:30 was repeated in the village of Zaitsevo in the north of Gorlovka. Only in contrast to the industrial zone, in Zaitsevo and the neighboring village of Golmovsky there was still heavy shelling from mortars, the Rapira anti-tank gun and the memory. Because of these attacks and shelling, there were casualties among the defenders of Donbass - four fighters were killed and 5 wounded, 13 civilians were wounded. Also, more than 60 residential buildings were damaged, of which 5 were completely destroyed and 3 were burned down. After that there was a lull until the evening, I don’t know, maybe the OSCE went there and therefore is quiet, or maybe the APU received a ceasefire order.
      At about 16:50, the punishers again combed their hands, all the same sections of the front — Dokuchaevsk, Petrovsky district of Donetsk (western outskirts), Staromikhaylovka, Volvo Center (here’s an advertisement for an auto concern, every day in reports), DAP, Spartak, industrial zone Avdeevki, Yasinovatsky BP (checkpoint). As usual, a rifle, AGS, kk machine guns, 82-mm and 120-mm mortars (a little later, about an hour later), a memory.
      The militia began to respond, not everywhere and rarely, mainly mortars and small arms.
      At 17:50, 120 mm mines began to arrive, the northern suburbs of Donetsk, nuclear warheads (Yasinovatsky checkpoint), Zatsevo. Rarely, about once every 20 minutes, 122-mm shells from self-propelled guns began to arrive in the northern suburbs, the tank might have worked, it has a 125-mm caliber, when it shoots an HE shell from a distance from behind a hill, it can be confused by sound.
      19:40 heavy artillery shelling of the Ukrainian Armed Forces began in the northern suburbs of Donetsk, the Yasinovat interchange and the suburbs of Gorlovka. 1-2 shells of both 122 mm and 152 mm began to fly in. Residents near the nuclear warhead began to report arrivals of large calibers, almost from the "Peonies" 203 mm. Information is verified. Ukrainian MLRS "Grad" managed to make one salvo a complete package (40 RS).
      The militia also began to respond, worked on the heavy. Arte and battery "Grad" APU. It seems like they destroyed several "Grads". Within half an hour there was silence, only the machine guns were still working at the forefront, the AGS and their victims were taken away under the guise of a sniper.
      Then again everything flew at us, mortars, art. What was falling on the front line, we could not hear, since heavy mines of 120 mm and 152 mm shells fell in residential areas. Not often, 1-2 shells and a couple of mines, and so hour after hour.
      Apparently the leadership of the republic got it very much and at 23:50 the militia gave a short but strong answer. Some residents, especially those who recently returned and confused the pros and cons, took this for another wave of shelling, but it was ours. The battery worked on APU artillery. I don’t think it’s any secret. The whole city has not heard this for a long time, probably when the airport was liberated and our gunners worked on batteries and accumulated APU equipment. In general, if the VSN artillery works, then not by infantry or by individual firing points, but almost always to shut up the APU artillery.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith April 1 2016 12: 31
        +41
        I never understood the artillerymen of the Armed Forces. Their DRG groups go into reconnaissance for 6-8 people or assault groups of 12-20 people, stumble upon the dense fire of snipers and machine guns of the Donbass defenders, apparently contact their own and report on the losses and firing points of the militias. Mortars 82-mm and 120-mm APU begin to work on the front end, everything is clear. But where does the APU artillery shoot? There is a long chain of coordination, unless, of course, they planned the attack or attack in advance. But still, usually from 30 to 90 minutes after the shooting, their art begins to work. But they do not shoot at the front end and even at headquarters or barracks. After all, the VSUshniki themselves are sitting on the front end and see where the shells of their gunners fly, far inland of city blocks. The meaning of such art support? Scare civilians? Whoever left has left, and who has not left, that frost will leave. Or are Western curators teaching Ukrainian gunners like that, they say do shelling and the inhabitants of Donbass will leave themselves? So it's time in two years to understand, we won’t leave anywhere!
        After our otvetka from 23:50 to 00:00, the Armed Forces of Ukraine settled down, and all at once and on the whole front. After an hour, they recovered themselves and again began to fly 1-2 mines and shells, this continued until 2 am on April 1. At 04:00 a few 120 mm mines fell, at 06:00 a couple more minutes.
        There is no information on losses from evening shelling and fighting.

        All patience and health!


        1. Red jack
          Red jack April 1 2016 12: 38
          +7
          In fact, the problem is that ukrov, in principle, is a winning tactic for them - it will destroy people by shelling and snipers, they have much more resources over time, they just grind the entire staff
        2. vlad66
          vlad66 April 1 2016 12: 44
          +30
          Thank you, Lord Sith for the summary, may God grant you strength and courage to withstand all the Donetsk people, health and strength, and these punishing animals will definitely get theirs.
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 April 1 2016 13: 04
          +4
          Well, maybe just a poor skill of artillerymen in the university. After all, there were several demobilizations, the experienced ones changed, and the new ones beat anywhere. Yes, and the spotters are bad - they cannot indicate the correct coordinates. Plus, the trunks are worn out - all art is age-related, but there is no replacement, because the spread is not weak. Well, the whole of Donetsk is enemy territory for them, and when shelling the enemy it is not particularly interesting whether any of the enemy non-combatants will die. request
          In general, for Donetsk to stop shelling there are only 2 ways out - the capture of Avdeevka and Krasnogorovka. Then shelling of Donetsk will become rare, like shelling of Lugansk. In the meantime, these 2 NP for the enemy, the shelling will continue. hi
        4. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel April 1 2016 15: 06
          +2
          ... q! There must be some way out of this impasse! It is impossible to endlessly shoot each other like this, especially when shells are torn among civilians.
        5. Roman 11
          Roman 11 April 1 2016 17: 31
          0
          Quote: Sith Lord
          After our otvetka from 23:50 to 00:00, the Armed Forces of Ukraine settled down, and all at once and on the whole front. After an hour, they recovered themselves and again began to fly 1-2 mines and shells, this continued until 2 am on April 1. At 04:00 a few 120 mm mines fell, at 06:00 a couple more minutes.

          Why don't you change tactics ??
          For example, to engage in more intensive extermination of dill?
          You are the children of the miners, and take care of the underground war. Have you read about the heroes of Adzhimushkaya?

          Catacombs, heaps, mines, deep ditches, an extensive system of underground communications, underground bunkers, pillboxes (including mortar and artillery), etc. The list is very long. Surveillance of the surface can be done with stereoscopes, drones, mines, carefully camouflaged observational fortifications, etc.
          With this approach, not only dill snipers and mines of Ukrop will be a threat, but also tanks and Points U will become useless !!

          If the order forbids you to go forward, then you need to force it to make dill - create artificial boiler bags and drive it into these pens. On the flanks and lines of the proposed boiler, prepare a system of underground communications, communications, support fortified defense nodes at strategic points of the terrain, minefields - open the front and wait for the dill to climb ....... Then mortars, artillery and other treatment methods.
          Read about fortification, the same forts of Port Arthur and other fortresses and underground fortified areas.

          Not special, but given that you have developed traditions with underground labor and you have an idea about this matter, this should be your additional advantage.
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot April 2 2016 10: 56
            +1
            Quote: Novel 11
            Why don't you change tactics ??
            For example, to engage in more intensive extermination of dill?
            You are the children of the miners, and take care of the underground war. Have you read about the heroes of Adzhimushkaya?

            Catacombs, heaps, mines, deep ditches, an extensive system of underground communications, underground bunkers, pillboxes (including mortar and artillery), etc. The list is very long. Surveillance of the surface can be done with stereoscopes, drones, mines, carefully camouflaged observational fortifications, etc.
            With this approach, not only dill snipers and mines of Ukrop will be a threat, but also tanks and Points U will become useless !!

            If the order forbids you to go forward, then you need to force it to make dill - create artificial boiler bags and drive it into these pens. On the flanks and lines of the proposed boiler, prepare a system of underground communications, communications, support fortified defense nodes at strategic points of the terrain, minefields - open the front and wait for the dill to climb ....... Then mortars, artillery and other treatment methods.
            Read about fortification, the same forts of Port Arthur and other fortresses and underground fortified areas.



            Has a new "commander" appeared? So you go to Donbass, lead the army wink
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    6. siberalt
      siberalt April 1 2016 12: 50
      +4
      Judging by the map, LDNR is bombing itself again. There are no fights in the temporarily occupied Kuev junta of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. And where does the blind OSCE look?
      1. cap
        cap April 1 2016 13: 14
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        Judging by the map, LDNR is bombing itself again. There are no fights in the temporarily occupied Kuev junta of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. And where does the blind OSCE look?


        Breadwinners in one place. am
    7. self-propelled
      self-propelled April 1 2016 13: 35
      0
      Quote: avvg
      In Washington, "Porssenko" apparently gave the go-ahead for the war.

      but not ... the "pigs" were given to understand that they were already tired of them (and their antics). now the "pigs" will again begin to make excuses "self-shelling of separatist cities"...
    8. Roman 11
      Roman 11 April 1 2016 16: 20
      0
      Quote: avvg
      In Washington, "Porssenko" apparently gave the go-ahead for the war.

      Imagine, 2 years have passed since then ...... and infinity lies ahead, and you thought something would change ??
    9. musorg
      musorg April 1 2016 17: 39
      0
      Not only good, but money for anti-tank systems.
    10. igor.borov775
      igor.borov775 April 1 2016 18: 05
      0
      G
      Quote: avvg
      In Washington, "Porssenko" apparently gave the go-ahead for wars

      Not only that. The German voiced the very pleasant problem of Minsk-2. In his conviction, Russia should withdraw all the heavy militia equipment to Russia. This is something new hatching with the Germans. Only then maybe sanctions will be lifted. What’s the matter where they rule. I think Poroshenko drove this idea over the hill. Like not me, but others demand. All this fuss should end in a major provocation. There is no smoke without fire.
    11. Lily
      Lily April 2 2016 02: 58
      0
      The war did not stop for a day. Already all March there has been an aggravation, after the Dnieper authorities squandered the Avdeevka.
  2. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 12: 27
    +3
    But she did not stop.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 April 1 2016 12: 36
    +2
    With the spring comes not only warm weather, but also mental exacerbations. Some analysts predicted the beginning of full-scale hostilities in the spring. DNRLNR good luck and victory.
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  5. Altona
    Altona April 1 2016 12: 40
    +3
    Still, Kiev wants to "go all the way", it has nowhere to go. Inside the country, everything is upset, it is necessary to unleash a full-scale war again.
  6. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z April 1 2016 12: 43
    +3
    any patience comes to an end God bless you guys
  7. VP
    VP April 1 2016 12: 43
    -1
    What is "Friday by evening" if it is still Friday lunch, reprint carefully
  8. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 1 2016 12: 44
    +5
    dill they say, the gumkonvoy has come - wait for the shelling, and it's true, whatever one may say. Living people told me, and I am NOT GUILTY that the boys of the neighbors were taken to the APU. And ours say, the same ukrodebiloids, they can shmalnut on drunkenness, they "lay down" on the officers. And they came back - they sit in the taverns in uniform with glands on their chest, like I'm a hero, until someone comes across the kumpol.
    sad
  9. akudr48
    akudr48 April 1 2016 12: 45
    +5
    Everything became commonplace, Ukrainians shoot, Russians die, and the government sees no problems in this, waiting for the lifting of sanctions or any other approvals from the West and the chief dark chief.

    The government does not see (does not want, cannot, cannot) ... therefore, our near-power talk-show service team will not undertake discussing the situation with shelling and the deaths of Russian people in the Donbass.

    Vladimir Rudolfichi with Petra, Maxim, Sergey, Artyom and other propagandists from TV with the invitation of very respected people such as Zheleznyak, Zhirinovsky, spring, diluted for the sake of opponents such as red, hopeful, stankevich, skillfully put on the next performance for the Russians, reasoning about everything in the world, about the Turks, Syria, Merkel, Europe, refugees, etc., but not about the killings in the Donbass and the real help that the country should have long rendered to stop the attacks by ukrov.

    However, these wizards, magicians, Kashpirovsky + Chumaks on TV also ignore issues of living standards, poverty and injustice within the country, catching the wave only outside.

    Well, we won’t be lost with such information support, because Vladimir (not Vladimirovich, he is not with us) is with us Rudolfovich!

    No wonder the Russians are Slavs, people of the word, who believe in a good word, until certain times ...
    1. Riv
      Riv April 1 2016 12: 50
      0
      And when they began to bomb the Churkobesov in Syria - was this warned in advance?
  10. A-Sim
    A-Sim April 1 2016 12: 47
    0
    "Friday afternoon ..."

    When was this written?
  11. Corvetkapitan
    Corvetkapitan April 1 2016 12: 48
    +3
    Bandera, these are rabid dogs and negotiations with them are a waste of time.
    1. theth
      theth April 1 2016 12: 54
      0
      Putin: there is no alternative to "Minsk-2" for de-escalation in Donbass
  12. EvilLion
    EvilLion April 1 2016 12: 49
    +4
    It's time to finish with slicing dill.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo April 1 2016 13: 06
      +1
      "It's time to end up cutting the dill."

      It's time to weed this and other weeds.
  13. chikenous59
    chikenous59 April 1 2016 12: 50
    0
    Friday late afternoon the intensity of shelling near Donetsk increased markedly

    News from the future?
    It’s still noon in Donetsk)
  14. Yuyuka
    Yuyuka April 1 2016 12: 50
    +3
    Thank you for the information, because of Syria there is almost no news from the Donbass, only today in RTR in general terms with the shots of the affected civilians ... It seems that purposefully it is being pumped up by the Armed Forces, it is possible to provoke the onset of the Armed Forces and deliver strikes .. ... everything goes to the fact that Minsk-2 is Khan de jure, because de facto it’s been a secret for a long time ...
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 April 1 2016 20: 35
      0
      Both sides provoke the enemy into an open attack. If you read the dill media, then there is the same picture as on our side, only they argue that this all the same offends them, and they are doves of peace. request In Minsk, the GDP vouched for the Donbass, and Europe for the piglet. The first to launch a serious offensive, he will substitute his guarantor and will be declared the main byaka. Therefore, both sides provoke the enemy in their own way. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are shelling Donetsk and Gorlovka so that they all have to go to move the front to defend their NPs. And vsn take away technology provoking dill by seeming weakness and the possibility of a successful attack. Whoever first goes on a massive offensive will lose and give the enemy all the cards. hi
  15. Barakuda
    Barakuda April 1 2016 12: 50
    +14
    Quote: akudr48
    Ukrainians shoot, Russians die,

    Yes, on both sides, both Russians and Ukrainians! How can you not understand that it all depends on what was injected into the brain.
    1. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka April 1 2016 13: 51
      +3
      Quote: akudr48
      Ukrainians shoot, Russians die,

      Yes, on both sides, both Russians and Ukrainians! How can you not understand that it all depends on what was injected into the brain.


      How they were fooled that they consider the enemies of those with whom they were still so connected yesterday that even in the worst nightmare it was impossible to imagine what was happening! Most importantly, they don’t even understand how they are used in this massacre! and reaching out is useless ... only by force can it be stopped ...
  16. theth
    theth April 1 2016 12: 52
    +1
    Velikoukry will not go on the attack, the strength is gone, but the permanent conduct of harassing fire with constant losses for the DPR troops is quite a successful tactic.
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 12: 56
      +3
      So there is our complete defeat if you stupidly sit under shelling while holding the defense then everything is lost
      1. chikenous59
        chikenous59 April 1 2016 12: 59
        +1
        Quote: Red Jack
        So there is our complete defeat if you stupidly sit under shelling while holding the defense then everything is lost

        Kutuzov near Donetsk is not enough
        1. Red jack
          Red jack April 1 2016 13: 03
          +1
          Was Igor Ivanovich Strelkov no worse than Kutuzov but the oligarchs forced him to leave
          1. chikenous59
            chikenous59 April 1 2016 13: 08
            +3
            Quote: Red Jack
            Was Igor Ivanovich Strelkov no worse than Kutuzov but the oligarchs forced him to leave

            In this jungle it is useless to climb and figure out about Strelkova)
            This is a separate conversation between big politicians.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo April 1 2016 13: 09
          +4
          Kutuzov near Donetsk is not enough

          You know better from the sofa. I would also add that there are not enough Kuznetsovs and Kovpakovs.

          Many of which are missing. The tsrules make full use of the Nazi experience in the Second World War, managing banderlogs in the occupied territory of Donbass.
          Will there be a denouement for the tragedy this year? Probably not.
          Donbass patience, military luck, take care ....
          1. Red jack
            Red jack April 1 2016 13: 12
            +7
            Those who talk about patience, as a rule, did not live under shelling and without water, gas and electricity, their houses were not destroyed, they have been saying this for 3 years now, be patient for a couple of years until the Ukrainians fall apart
          2. chikenous59
            chikenous59 April 1 2016 13: 12
            +2
            Quote: Balu
            Will there be a denouement for the tragedy this year? Probably not.
            Donbass patience, military luck, take care ....

            If a denouement were needed, ours would already have thoroughly helped.
            Not by the forces that are now helping the militias there.
            Unfortunately, Donbass is just a pawn, a bargaining chip in big politics.
  17. vobels
    vobels April 1 2016 12: 59
    +1
    When will these crested dill run into war games? Click on their faces, that would be disgraceful!
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 April 1 2016 13: 04
      +2
      Quote: vobels
      When will these crested dill run into war games? Click on their faces, that would be disgraceful!

      I think for many scumbags (not politicians) such a war is quite beneficial.
      How many psychopaths, criminals and ordinary parasites are there? In peacetime, they can’t realize themselves.
      Moreover, politicians are constantly heating up this whole mess.
      I'm afraid that for a very long time we will hear such news from the DPR and LPR.
  18. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 02
    +4
    There is a usual positional war. The local commanders, putting on a higher level, probe the enemy with intelligence. Artillery is gaining combat experience for firing units. At the same time, they are targeting landmarks for the future. Judging by the summary, the APU is working with nomadic guns and installations, while instrumental reconnaissance is notching fire militias for the future. So it is not surprising.
  19. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 1 2016 13: 02
    0
    Maidania cannot admit defeat in Donbass. So he is engaged in lawlessness. The "world community" forgets about them, and feeding has become scarce. And the "disturbing fire" on residential areas is terrorism in its purest form! Obviously, it was not without the advice of striped-eared friends.
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 13: 14
      +2
      And what they lost militarily they do not yet have a complete defeat
  20. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 04
    0
    Defense is not a loss.
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 April 1 2016 13: 09
      +1
      Quote: got137
      Defense is not a loss.

      And the constant defense?
    2. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 13: 13
      +1
      Losing when the enemy has more power at once and he can methodically destroy you and you are not able to attack
  21. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 11
    +1
    And if it’s real and without snot, then it’s beneficial for us to sit in the trenches. VSU sitting in a field ruins equipment and people. And if they catch up with people, they will not be able to make up for equipment and ammunition anymore. The APU artillery was not of high quality anyway. And now they will not receive replacements intensively by shooting barrels. Therefore, now they use the militia with mortars. They can even make up for it.
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 13: 19
      +2
      This is nonsense - they have plenty of warehouses, plus they are brought abroad and people in the DPR and LPR are not endless
    2. A-Sim
      A-Sim April 1 2016 13: 23
      +1
      To continue this mess, the "carriers of democracy" will plant them. From all former countries, VDs will be collected and planted.
  22. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 16
    0
    Permanent defense is now also an option. Society in Ukraine is tired of the war. And fatigue only accumulates. How long will they last? And not only society but the Army of Ukraine is tired. The command staff does not fall under demobilization. And for two years in the trenches it is unclear why anyone will tire.
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 April 1 2016 13: 23
      +1
      Red Jack Today, 13:12 PM ↑
      Those who talk about patience usually nor lived under shelling and without water gas electricity their homes were not destroyed on this they have been saying for 3 years, bear with it a couple more years until the Ukrainians fall apart
  23. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 20
    +2
    Losing is when your troops are defeated and your lands are captured. The government is in exile. Continue to tell?))
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 13: 32
      +3
      Well, we’re watching most of the DPR and LPR lands are captured the rest in ruins of all the best commanders killed in the last year, then they imposed a binding hand on your enemy and untied your enemy, not to mention the advantage of the enemy in power, so who has a winning position?
  24. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 26
    0
    Their warehouses are already empty. 25 years have not passed. They were sold very famously. The latest ammunition is at least 25 year old. )) Even those that they bring from Europe. And massive deliveries of ammunition will be very visible.)) This is not a dozen tanks to deliver at night. The size of the needs of such a group that you now imagine in the southeast?)) At least approximately? I saw the procedure for storing ammunition in Ukraine myself. After this, it’s scary to approach them. And do not shoot.
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 13: 33
      +1
      Warehouses are empty there than they then shoot all the time with sweets?
  25. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 35
    +1
    Why didn’t they live? There was such a thing. But those who reproach this themselves lived like that? And just surviving is not enough. Do you want to throw a hodgepodge from the militia on the entrenched APU? Then you will find out what defeat looks like. It’s not worth it to give a damn about VSUshniki. If they can’t attack, then they can completely disrupt those attacking them. And how much is the DNI in this situation?
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 13: 40
      +3
      I live in Donetsk, the second time it was possible to attack calmly in the summer of 2014, but then Minsk was quickly concluded, tying the hands of the militia all this is its fruit
    2. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 13: 41
      0
      And now, with such attacks as yesterday, there will be enough forces for a couple of months, then no one will hold the defense
  26. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 39
    0
    Do you only understand categories with straight lines ?? The availability of 0,3 ammunition for artillery in the warehouse can be understood as empty ??)) But for you it can number tens of thousands in pieces. )))
  27. dogens
    dogens April 1 2016 13: 47
    +3
    Today, 12: 23 Print
    On Friday late afternoon, the intensity of shelling near Donetsk increased markedly


    Understood nothing. What friday? If this is today, then before the evening even as before China, but at the time of writing and lunch it was not.
    I do not understand something?
  28. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 49
    0
    Did you lose 300 people yesterday?
  29. got137
    got137 April 1 2016 13: 51
    0
    With such daily losses, you cannot keep the front. So stop panicking.
  30. Belarus
    Belarus April 1 2016 13: 54
    +1
    As a matter of fact, the VSU operate according to the methodology of conducting military operations when attacking settlements. Only the goals of the punishers of the VSU are slightly changed, but there is only one goal - to create an atmosphere of fear and insecurity among residents, to undermine their faith in the ability of the authorities to wage an effective fight against punitive vsu
    For all these shelling to stop, the Americans would only have to say one proposal: the Kiev junta will not stop shelling - we will introduce sanctions (especially financial) against the "state power" of the Ukraine - and that's it !!!!!

    And the inhabitants of Donbass and the defenders of Donbass can only be admired and wish them strength, good and peaceful life soon.
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 14: 05
      +1
      Well, they will stop shelling, and that raise most of the territory of the DPR and LPR without its release, there’s no need to talk about any existence
  31. alfa19638
    alfa19638 April 1 2016 14: 08
    +3
    If the Russian leadership were consistent in their actions, then there would have been a big New Russia for a long time, these are all the games of politicians, and the best guys die - Eternal memory to you!
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 14: 12
      +3
      Not many people understand this, endure it for others or is it a cunning plan for ukrov soon the supplies will end and other nonsense, but back in the beginning Syria and then Donbass seemed a new trend
  32. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 April 1 2016 14: 54
    +2
    On Friday, in the late afternoon, the intensity of the shelling near Donetsk increased markedly, artillery was used on both sides, reports colonelcassad blog.

    As Winnie the Pooh said: "If I understand anything about anything, then the hole is a hole. And the hole is a rabbit ..."
    The author could clarify what Friday evening he means if the article was written TODAY at 12.23 ?!
  33. black
    black April 1 2016 15: 19
    0
    But it seems to me that everything is quite the opposite. They shouted about an attack on the nuclear warheads, and part of the wash in Avdeevka was beaten off under the guise. It happened before. Fights in different directions. Dill is devoid of maneuver, strength and reserves are scattered. Yes, and they went rotation. And then a little jerk. Maybe: YaBP-northern outskirts of Avdeevka-Sands. Shake it - see.
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 15: 33
      +1
      Just do not return that the Ukrainians have recently occupied no more
  34. nivander
    nivander April 1 2016 15: 35
    +1
    and beyond Avdeevka there’s no shit ---- there is no steppe to Kramatorsk itself and ... Slavyansk
  35. 8140
    8140 April 1 2016 16: 46
    +4
    Civilians are dying. What is the point in such a freezing conflict. There must be a peace enforcement operation. Flirt with the frostbitten in the world. Well ... Comrade Putin, funny (ghettos for the Russian-speaking East of Ukraine. They surrounded them with barbed wire and kill 10-20 people a day. Wonderful world (reminiscent of a concentration camp ... Our Foreign Ministry again got water in his mouth ... Great, nothing happens ... Here in Belgium people were killed, so we condole the helmet and sympathize, and here we kill our own, with our inaction, it turns out that we are contributing, so to speak, for the situation in eastern Ukraine and for the deaths of civilians Putin is responsible for the citizens, and until he decides it, he will not return my respect for him.
    And then he does not abandon his own. This is understandable already, according to Serdyukov and Vasilyeva.
    And that Russian-speaking people in the East of Ukraine are not their own. What else should they do to prove that they are their own? To dance?
    I was born in Leningrad, raised and raised in the USSR, I can not understand this. Probably dumb.
    1. Red jack
      Red jack April 1 2016 17: 41
      -1
      Aren't you just not a liberal like Putin
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas April 2 2016 13: 01
      0
      Quote: 8140
      here His, with our inaction, is killed. So it turns out that we are contributing to one thing, so to speak. Putin is responsible for the situation in eastern Ukraine and for the death of civilians. And until he solves it, he will not return my respect for him.
      Have you ever had it (respect for Putin)? Putin made a mess in the east of Ukraine, and the "myth" about the coup in Ukraine and about the attitude of the new government to the "cotton wool" that lives in the east of the country, and NATO supports this government, did Kiselyov come up with? Putin is responsible for the situation not only in Ukraine or in Syria, but also for the situation in the whole world, and today it is seriously aggravated. That's why I say thank you to him, because you should not return to the world where the authorities of almost all countries dream of meeting "their friend Bill" so that he would throw money on solving any of the many problems.
  36. theth
    theth April 1 2016 20: 05
    -2
    Here you are, citizens, another concern from the genius of diplomacy Lavrushka-Russian Foreign Ministry Concerned Over Exacerbation of Situation in Donbass
    And here you are, citizens, a recipe from the genius of diplomacy of Lavrushka The Russian Foreign Ministry again called on "the Ukrainian authorities to fully fulfill their obligations under the Minsk process."
    Eat the wise policy of a sun-fed helmsman, enjoy your meal!
  37. Evil 55
    Evil 55 April 2 2016 06: 11
    0
    Well, it has begun ... Fascists-Khokhloedy have thawed ... Again in the Donbass it will smell human ...