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The cranks' hands

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Among Russian nationalists, one, or rather, even two, vulgar ideas have been spread lately: that the Bolsheviks created Ukraine as an ideology, and they also blinded the territory of Ukraine. Therefore, the Bolsheviks are a disgrace and anathema. From point of view historical this is so and not so.


The Soviet government, in one form or another, continued the Russian imperial policy. In 20-s, large-scale educational work was carried out throughout the country, many times exceeding the similar actions that took place during the monarchical period. They built a huge family of nations, were quite generous and active in Russian: not only schools and universities appeared in national areas, but writing was often created from scratch, followed by secular literature, the national intelligentsia rapidly declared itself; and so on and so forth. Fantasy: but the huge, time-honored processes fit in decades.

It is clear that some of the current Russian nationalists consider all this work superfluous and even harmful, and the liberals are silent about this activity. But neither radical nationalists, nor radical liberals of empires do not build; they live and multiply in them, from time to time to show their bills to the past: “... ah, screwed up! And what do you have here? It would give in the mouth, bastards! "

The empire is built by the complex Russian state machine, where heterogeneous ideologies are in uneasy interaction. Work with Ukraine and Ukrainians in this construction was only one of the components. In the case of Ukraine, we have now got some problems, and in the case of, say, Yakutia, we have a super-power industrial and intellectual region, which is loyal to Russia and Russia. Who is entitled and able to count the pros and cons of the work done? Counting where it goes more often where something did not work out, and where it happened, it is believed that “it was like that”. No, it was not. In Yakutia, by the way, there was a fierce anti-imperial struggle both in pre-revolutionary times and in post-revolutionary times.

In any case, if we begin to deny imperial work as such, speaking in condemnation of the administrative division of various territories, including on a national basis, the participation of the Russian administration in studying the diverse local cultural heritage, the incorporation of national personnel, from the Bolsheviks.

However, among the vulgar nationalists the consciousness is structured in such a way that they see only the near future. One had to hear the absurd point of view that the Bolsheviks introduced this into the composition of the Soviet national elite of people from the Ukraine — Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Chernenko, and so on. But do we know that in the XVII – XVIII centuries the share of Ukrainians in the diocesan and monastic hierarchy was greater than the share of Russians? For example, in the XVIII century, the episcopal departments of the Russian Church occupied the order of 90 Little Russian hierarchs, they also owned most of the places in the Holy Synod.

Here, the nationalists will tell us that at that time there was no Ukraine, and there was Little Russia. Ukraine, we recall, created the Bolsheviks. Meanwhile, the name Ukraine was invented, naturally, not by the Bolsheviks, but got acclimatized from 1648, when the French cartographer de Boplan gave the name to the southeastern voivodeships of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. The word "Ukraine" is used in European cartography since 1660. The term “state Ukraine” is already found in documents from the time of Alexei Mikhailovich; although, indeed, officially this part of the kingdom was called "Little Russia".

Having heard the familiar word “Rus”, the nationalists will say: this was the way to hold on to this name. But here lies one little thing, which today is extremely rarely remembered. The fact is that the self-name “Little Russia” initially carried a potentially separatist connotation. When Archbishop Kopinsky first used the phrase “Little Russia” in a letter to the patriarch of Moscow Philaret, he meant the following: Philaret is called the patriarch of “all Russia”, but Little Russia remains a separate entity, it is not worth making it into the concept of “all”.

Behind the archbishop of Kopinsky, Bogdan Khmelnitsky gradually achieved that in correspondence with Alexei Mikhailovich Malaya Rus was marked separately. Bogdan was a cunning politician! And in this case, he outwitted.

It is still worth telling that the value of present-day Ukraine was raised - its naming as Little Russia or its naming itself Ukraine. Little Russia, perhaps, weighed a lot more - for she had the right to claim the whole of Russia. The word "small" in a certain period could not mean "smallness" at all. In this case, “small” also means: “the main, original” —that is, the one from where the source of Great Russia went, all. Compare with “Little Greece” or “Little Poland” - here “small” means exactly the same thing: the skeleton of an ethnos. And the fact that Little Russia was gradually renamed Ukraine was certainly not a mistake of the Russian administration.

Already by the XIX century the word "Ukraine" had a full-fledged ethnic meaning. In the 50-s of the XIX century, the magazine "Ukrainian" began to appear. This is where the ground for a new dispute arises: who has done more for the emergence of Ukrainians as an ideology — Soviet leaders or monarchs. The answer is simple: they both invested. The basis of the future of Ukrainians - secular Ukrainian literature - flourished in the XIX century: this is an indisputable fact.

We refer just to the ideologists of "Ukrainians". Andrei Tsarinny in his book “The Ukrainian Movement: A Brief Historical Essay” (Berlin, 1925) wrote: “In the first quarter of the 19th century, a special“ Ukrainian ”school of Polish scholars and poets appeared that gave extremely talented representatives: K. Svidzinsky, S. Goszczychy, M Grobovsky, E. Gulikovsky, B. Zalessky and many others. others ... prepared the ideological foundation on which the building of the modern Ukrainian people was created. With all its roots, Ukrainian ideology has grown into Polish soil. ”

But Poland was a part of Russia! And all this grew and "grew into" before the eyes of the royal government. Nationalists should remember such things.

Some Russian nationalists say with conviction that officially “Ukraine” did not figure in the administrative state documents until the arrival of the Bolsheviks. And then what to do with the Sloboda-Ukrainian province, which existed before 1835, and which became Kharkov afterwards? It turns out that for the first time the Kharkiv lands for the Ukraine were not the Bolsheviks, that's bad luck.

As a result, all these questions have no single and simple solution: they say that they did well, and these - badly. Being engaged in Ukrainization in the 20-s, the Bolsheviks carried out a large-scale population transfer, settling the Donbass, Kharkov, Odessa from Central Russia and Siberia: it must be admitted that the vast number of Russian people on these lands are only in the second or third generation.

Now Ukrainians will be delighted and will scream: they have come! But we will immediately reply to them that the equally massive settlement by Ukrainians of the Belgorod land, to which the current Ukrainian nationalists naively claim, began under Alexey Mikhailovich: there are many documentary proofs of this.

Moreover, under Alexei Mikhailovich, Zaporizhia Cossacks began settling many of the original Russian lands, and they were also paid a salary. A funny moment: in 1652, a Cossack regiment headed by Colonel Ivan Dzikowski moved to Ukraine in the Ostrogozhsky district of Ukraine. “Those who came to the surface” from sovereign Alexei Mikhailovich were given a loan for construction in the amount of 5243 rubles. And already in 1670, the same Zaporozhye Cossacks supported the rebellion of the Don Cossack Stepan Razin against all the same Alexey Mikhailovich!

How should we respond to the above? We will accuse Alexei Mikhailovich: they say that his actions led to the fact that today some unhealthy people claim to the former Ostrogozhsky district and so on? Or let the Ukrainian brothers vilify the Bolsheviks for the mass import of the Russian population into the territory of the Donbass and the Black Sea?

“The Bolsheviks made Ukraine so huge!” - rushing tirelessly from a different tinned nationalist throat. Yes, Lenin and Stalin invested in the current administrative borders of Ukraine. But, my dear colleagues, the Bolsheviks could do anything - but they gave their right hand from their left hand. They were not giving to their neighbors - they were just taking them away from their neighbors, and then inside the empire they invented the Ukrainian SSR. Just as before them created the Sloboda-Ukrainian province.

But now a false feeling is created that the czar-father had something, he kept the shore, and then the Bolshevik appeared and gave it to someone else. Under Stalin, Galicia was annexed - before that, it was part of our country only in the times of Ancient Russia. Under the Romanovs, we had no Galicia. Naturally, Stalin sewed Galicia to Ukraine, and not to Georgia or Yakutia, because Galicia bordered on Soviet Ukraine. And the nationalists are smart enough to blame Stalin for this? You involuntarily ask yourself a question: what did the current nationalists add to this to give a vote?

It is interesting that not only the Bolsheviks did this in our history. In 1809, as the current liberal would say, Finland was “annexed”, which, as you know, did not have its own statehood, but was part of Sweden. The swift raid of the Russian army, and the long-standing Russian enemy - the Swedes - lost a huge piece of land. Alexander I endowed the Grand Duchy of Finland with Swedish lands in the north and Karelian in the south. In 1812, the sovereign also handed over to the Finns the Vyborg province - 43 000 square kilometers. What did the Finns get in the end? Very large land, which included territories that had almost nothing to do with the Finns. What is the difference between this monarch and Khrushchev, who gave Ukraine Crimea, or Stalin, who gave Galicia to the Ukrainians? Yes, nothing.

Plus or minus similar cases in the history of the empire happen inevitably - under princes, under emperors, under general secretaries, and under presidents. They conquer lands further, on the basis of those or other motives — in order to simplify administrative management, to appease the affiliated people, or to level the consequences of the war — they draw internal boundaries. Because there are always internal boundaries! States, districts, republics, autonomy - something inevitably has to be drawn. Then centuries pass, the wildly Russian nationalist is and starts shouting that because of the Bolsheviks Galicia fell into the structure of Ukraine. No, my friend. Because of the Bolsheviks, Galicia fell into Russia. Point.

By the way, the Vyborg gubernia, which once, using its own reasons, Alexander I handed over to the Finns (well, that is, transferred it from his left hand to the right), also had to be conquered under Stalin. And they conquered. Again, the “bad Bolsheviks”? No, we must stop with this.

For the sake of ideologies that are now being confessed by one or other circles, we unconsciously simplify the picture of the world, shredding our own history and ultimately giving our enemies a reason to disdain us.

Any nationalist who is looking for mistakes in the Soviet era must be aware of at least two simple things. First: similar errors (if it is at all appropriate to be considered “mistakes”) abound in the times of the Russian Empire, and in the era of the Moscow kingdom. Will we repent for everything at once? Or not even worth starting? The second: throwing out their not boiled down convictions, the nationalist works on the hand of the next Russophobic Maidan, wherever it happens. These arguments pick up and throw at us.

Where today they bring down a monument to Lenin, tomorrow Russian people will be bombed. It was easy to track this two-way in the past couple of years, right? But many did not notice. Wonderful people. With an emphasis on "s".
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  1. SHAMAN
    SHAMAN April 2 2016 06: 51
    +16
    I didn’t understand something, but nothing .... Here it’s clear, like ..))))
    1. The black
      The black April 2 2016 06: 59
      +5
      I won’t comment. Only facts. And forum users decide for themselves who is right and who is to blame. And who to whom, what he gave.
      1. SHAMAN
        SHAMAN April 2 2016 07: 02
        +11
        Our Crimea was and will be, this is unique!
        1. rf xnumx
          rf xnumx April 2 2016 07: 30
          +33
          Quote: SHAMAN
          Our Crimea was and will be, this is unique!

          Undeniable!
          1. Riv
            Riv April 2 2016 07: 47
            +4
            Pinned up! :)
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut April 2 2016 08: 28
              +10
              For the lawful transfer of Crimea to Ukraine, a resolution was to be issued not of the Presidium of the Supreme Council, but of the Supreme Council itself.
        2. Mahmut
          Mahmut April 2 2016 08: 32
          +3
          Yakutia we have a super-powerful industrial and intellectual region, loyal to Russia

          And before the revolution, Yakutia was not loyal to Russia? And what is meant by a heavy-duty industrial region? Is that what De Beers called him?
      2. The black
        The black April 2 2016 07: 03
        +39
        FROM THE NETWORK: Buy: coins of Ukraine of the 18-19th centuries - expensive !!! As well as coins of Great Ukraine BC - very expensive!!! Buy shovels that dug the Black Sea - insanely expensive! I will buy expensive (!!!) a document with a nationality - UKRAINIAN until 1917 !!! laughing
        1. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 April 2 2016 07: 30
          +9
          The black
          I will buy expensive (!!!) a document with a nationality - UKRAINIAN until 1917 !!! laughing

          Well, for such a document, you can even offer to pay with gold, al diamonds.
          1. andj61
            andj61 April 2 2016 09: 37
            +6
            Quote: Kos_kalinki9
            The black
            I will buy expensive (!!!) a document with a nationality - UKRAINIAN until 1917 !!! laughing

            Well, for such a document, you can even offer to pay with gold, al diamonds.

            Yes, what kind of document do you like? Blind in Odessa on Malaya Arnautskaya ... laughing
            And quite inexpensive! fellow
            1. Kos_kalinki9
              Kos_kalinki9 April 2 2016 10: 20
              +3
              Yes, what kind of document do you like? Blind in Odessa on Malaya Arnautskaya.

              This is what I understand. For the Mongols, it becomes scary. After all, they will be overwhelmed with claims for genocide from the Tatar-Mongol yoke with the appendix of GENUINE certificates about the damage caused to the true dill! Sadness.
        2. Yura
          Yura April 2 2016 08: 21
          +2
          Quote: Black
          I will buy expensive (!!!) a document with a nationality - UKRAINIAN until 1917 !!! laughing

          But in Russia before the revolution there were documents with some sort of nationality, well, in general, documents where was the nationality of a person designated? Just a question, I had never thought about this topic before.
          1. Kos_kalinki9
            Kos_kalinki9 April 2 2016 08: 46
            +4
            Until 1917, there were no columns of nationality. Religion was indicated.
            1. andj61
              andj61 April 2 2016 10: 01
              +2
              Quote: Kos_kalinki9
              Until 1917, there were no columns of nationality. Religion was indicated.

              This is where the confession - "the great Ukrainian" should be! lol
              1. Kos_kalinki9
                Kos_kalinki9 April 2 2016 12: 38
                +3
                Quote: andj61
                Quote: Kos_kalinki9
                Until 1917, there were no columns of nationality. Religion was indicated.

                This is where the confession - "the great Ukrainian" should be! lol

                Well, now they have such a religion. And before 17, I think it was modestly written, Orthodox, and even without Little Russians.
              2. Homo
                Homo April 2 2016 16: 15
                0
                Quote: andj61
                This is where the confession - "the great Ukrainian" should be!

                You are wrong, there must be written "descendant of great ukpov"!
            2. The black
              The black April 2 2016 16: 20
              0
              Until 1917, there were no columns of nationality. Religion indicated
              True ... only to be more precise then until 1924
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir April 2 2016 07: 42
        +7
        . And who to whom that presented.
        And what do you want to say Crimea from Russia presented to Ukraine? Give up. You heard about a country like the USSR. All these movements within the country. Under tsarism, my hometown was part of the Kazan province, after the revolution as part of the Nizhny Novgorod region, and now it is the Kirov region.
        1. Basarev
          Basarev April 2 2016 09: 26
          +3
          The point is that both kings and general secretaries are wrong. While the lands of foreign peoples were divided, this was only a matter of those nationalities. But they began to massively give primordially Russian lands do not understand to whom!
          1. Yura
            Yura April 2 2016 10: 47
            +3
            Quote: Basarev
            But they began to massively give primordially Russian lands do not understand to whom!

            Well, or here is an example: someone asked the Buryats if they want to have a Jewish Autonomous Region, I understand Israel where it is and I consider it fair and correct, but what I said above is insanity
            1. Weyland
              Weyland April 3 2016 01: 03
              +1
              Quote: Jura
              somebody asked the Buryats if they want to have a Jewish Autonomous Region


              They probably asked - and they answered: however, it is better to do it with the Nanai! But no one asked the Nanai!
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        2. ava09
          ava09 April 2 2016 11: 55
          +5
          Quote: Gardamir
          And what do you want to say Crimea from Russia presented to Ukraine? Give up. You heard about a country like the USSR. All these movements within the country

          Proceeding from your "iron" logic, during the times of the USSR there were no territorial - administrative entities of the RSFSR and the Ukrainian SSR? And why, in this case, after the collapse of the USSR, all the territories did not pass to Russia, as the legal successor? Or have only the debts paid by the robbed people passed over? Before writing something, it is advisable to think ...
        3. Suvorov
          Suvorov April 2 2016 22: 45
          +1
          Quote: Gardamir
          And what do you want to say Crimea from Russia presented to Ukraine? Give up. You heard about a country like the USSR. All these movements within the country.

          Unfortunately, in fact the Bolsheviks did not create a state, but a union of states. Although he had a separate sovereignty (USSR). At first, they contributed to the emergence of dozens of national states (republics) on the ruins of the Russian Empire, and under Brezhnev, the union republics also received the right to freely secede from the USSR. Isn't it a rash anti-state step? Or then, already hidden "agents of influence" persuaded the Soviet leadership to adopt the most "democratic" constitution in the world? I do not know what arguments these "agents" gave to the leadership of the USSR, perhaps they convinced that the USSR would strengthen its international position (Ukraine and Belarus, after the adoption of the new constitution, became members of the UN separately from the USSR). But the fact remains: the nationalists and republican elites during the period of perestroika and glasnost used this "argument" to the fullest to destroy the USSR. There was nothing to object to them, it was not even possible to prosecute or remove them from the elections (after all, they did not violate the USSR constitution). Now the presence of national republics (that is, mini-states) within the Russian Federation is a destabilizing factor, in fact a "time bomb". The correct way out would be somewhere in the 20s to adopt a new constitution of Russia, where all the subjects of the federation would receive the same status and monotonous name (for example, a province). It is important to understand that the "political goals" in the form of building a new national state on a part of the country's territory and the development goals of the peoples of Russia themselves have different "roots." Create now a "Cossack" or "Siberian", "Ural" republic and tomorrow new "nations" will arise from an "empty place". "Ukrainian nation" from the same "opera", when in a short time a nation of "ancient ukrov" was created from a part of the Russian people.
      4. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few April 2 2016 12: 48
        +3
        The decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine is not legal since it went against the constitution of the USSR. Article 18 The territory of the Union republics may not be changed without their consent. There is no documentary evidence of consent to the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine by RUSSIA, so this decree contradicts the basic law-CONSTITUTION.
      5. Homo
        Homo April 2 2016 16: 11
        0
        Quote: Black
        I won’t comment. Only facts. And forum users decide for themselves who is right and who is to blame. And who to whom, what he gave.

        I will try to comment. If you gave your smartphone to your son, this does not mean that you lost it, and secondly, you didn’t think that your wife could divorce you, take your son and then you will lose the smartphone! Is it intelligible? hi
        1. The black
          The black April 2 2016 16: 34
          +3
          If you gave your smartphone to your son, this does not mean that you lost it, and secondly, you didn’t think that your wife could divorce you, take your son and then you will lose the smartphone! Is it intelligible?
          Consider that the son did not want to live with his mother and returned to his father ... along with a smartphone wink
      6. Nosgoth
        Nosgoth April 2 2016 17: 40
        0
        And?
        The Supreme Council did not have the right to sign such acts. Let's start with that.
  2. avvg
    avvg April 2 2016 07: 07
    +3
    In my opinion, Ukraine as a state did not materialize and the Ukrainian will be comfortable in my composition or alliance with Russia.
    1. UralMan
      UralMan April 2 2016 07: 53
      +7
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, Ukraine as a state did not materialize and the Ukrainian will be comfortable in my composition or alliance with Russia.

      ----
      and you ask the Russians - will we be comfortable with them?
      ----
      will be- if they are half thinned
    2. Nymp
      Nymp April 2 2016 07: 58
      0
      Quote: avvg
      and the Ukrainian will be comfortable in my composition or alliance with Russia.

      Yeah, to jump on Red Square on May 9, shouting "- who does not jump that mackal!" Certainly more comfortable than on Khreshchatyk!
      1. UralMan
        UralMan April 2 2016 08: 38
        +7
        Quote: Nymp
        Yeah, to jump on Red Square on May 9, shouting "- who does not jump that mackal!" Certainly more comfortable than on Khreshchatyk!

        ----
        Well, on Red Square this is of course overkill, but in the north in the zone, let them jump and scream and shout, I think it will be just right hi
    3. ava09
      ava09 April 2 2016 11: 59
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, Ukraine as a state did not materialize and the Ukrainian will be comfortable in my composition or alliance with Russia.

      ONLY as part of Russia, on the rights of a region or territory, the Russian people and their lands can reunite ...
  3. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 April 2 2016 07: 08
    +3
    The article is certainly correct, but ... somewhat untimely, this time. The second one, who himself is without sin, let him throw a stone at the author. Thirdly, well, to whom, and what will we prove? Yes, and do you need it?
    1. Yura
      Yura April 2 2016 08: 33
      +5
      Quote: Shiva83483
      Thirdly, well, to whom, and what will we prove? Yes, and is it necessary?

      You don’t have to prove anything to anyone, but you need to tell the truth as it is. The article as a whole came to me, that is, it is smooth without hysteria and as a whole reflects the essence, our state was being built, manipulations with territories were taking place, the situation and environmental conditions dictated actions, how correct and adequate they were, which side to look at, but it’s already happened, you can’t change the past, only the future has different options.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter April 2 2016 07: 13
    +6
    In general, when the empire is strong, and the neighbors are playing the fool, it grows with land and people. But woe to her people when she weakens. And rightly or wrongly the empire "rules" the peoples inhabiting it - time will tell. While they are inside. And when they suddenly find themselves "outside" - woe to this chunk that came off ...
  5. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. April 2 2016 07: 13
    +2
    Fiction: but huge, time-honored processes fit in decades.

    no fiction, the systems had different tasks in terms of "public" education. Utilitarian vs "harmoniously developed personality".
  6. venaya
    venaya April 2 2016 07: 15
    +1
    throwing out his unsubstantiated beliefs, the nationalist works in the hands of the next Russophobian Maidan, wherever he may happen

    Dumping into the light their own and only their untested inferior knowledge, any "nationalist" (in quotation marks), together with an ardent Nazi / Russophobe, work together only to destroy the country left to us by our ancestors, and this must be fought mercilessly.
  7. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn April 2 2016 07: 18
    +1
    The modern Ukrainian is not a nationality, but a way of life, defined by at least two characteristic features, "my house is on the edge" and "I am the best." The eternal "give, give me more ..." is already tired of not only Russia. And what in return?
    Like Krylov:

    "Jumping Dragonfly
    Summer red sang
    I did not have time to look back
    As winter rolls in my eyes.
    The field is dead,
    There are no days of those bright Bole
    Like under each leaf
    Both the table and the house were ready. "
    Everything went: with a cold winter
    Need, hunger comes
    The dragonfly doesn’t sing
    And who will mind
    Singing hungry on your stomach!
    Angry longing is dejected
    She creeps to the Ant:
    Do not leave me, godfather!
    Let me gather your strength
    And to spring only days
    Feed and heat!

    Kumushka, this is strange to me:
    Did you work in the summer?
    The ant is telling her.

    Until then, my dear, was there?
    In the soft chills we have -
    Songs, playfulness every hour
    So that turned my head.

    Ah, so you ...

    Without a soul, I sang the whole summer.

    Did you sing everything? This case:
    So go dance!
    1. Bear in the north
      Bear in the north April 2 2016 08: 25
      +8
      Here is another version of the poem:

      Caucasian dragonfly
      Paprigunium strikaza

      Abaldeal eyes.

      Tselii Leta persuaded

      Vodka guzzled, Nagami shouted,

      And they work ne hater!

      Patam and not a flogger!

      And goose bumps in the bill,

      In a yurt he is in bags of violence -

      Tea, apricot, quiche, persimmon ...

      Get out for the winter

      And Dragonflies laughed at him,

      Votka guzzling, naked Baltal!

      Are you laughing for what?

      Gavarit Murash to him,

      Soon wada flies from heaven

      Where does your thyme sit?

      Strekaza Ha Ha sang,

      Farmed and flew away.

      Soon with neb vada pashol

      Dragonfly to Murash

      Wah! Salam! Maroz in the steppe!

      You let me go to you.

      A paka in the yard of the khan

      I will be yours.

      And Murash puff puff,

      - I thought yours - the coolest?

      For a cake spat with a taboo?

      Think so dumb ??!

      Whole summer

      Eat Arak, Nagami Drigal,

      Not greeted with me

      Kael Atsuda! Sing the songs!

      In this fable there really is,

      If you want to eat tasty

      Letam nada to work,

      A WINTER NAGA
      Sorry for the offtopic (April 1 has not yet departed laughing )
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur April 2 2016 11: 43
        0
        Quote: Bear in the north
        Caucasian dragonfly
        + Kazakh! hi
        Arak - vodka in Kazakh. drinks
        1. Weyland
          Weyland April 3 2016 01: 07
          0
          Quote: Baikonur
          Arak - vodka in Kazakh


          arak - in Arabic "distillate", and from Arvbian this word got into a fucking cloud of languages ​​(Bulgarians and Serbs call it "rakiya")
        2. Weyland
          Weyland April 3 2016 01: 07
          0
          Quote: Baikonur
          Arak - vodka in Kazakh


          arak - in Arabic "distillate", and from Arvbian this word got into a fucking cloud of languages ​​(Bulgarians and Serbs call it "rakiya")
      2. 1rl141
        1rl141 April 2 2016 16: 28
        +1
        And the Kazakh-Uzbek version.

        Papyrgunya Strekaza
        summer red peel, peel ..
        Teahouse sideel, sideeeel ..
        Kushal Tortilla Tea
        Marat Sadykov slushal.
        Years gone, winter came
        At the Ant she went
        Ant-Ant!
        Is the mana bar one tortilla?
        Answered by Ant
        Are you summer red sang? Peeeeel ...
        A teahouse sat? Sideeeel ...
        Kushal tea cake? Kuuushal ..
        Marat Sadykov slushal? Slyuyushal ...
        Go nah ... now Magomai listen!
  8. parafoiler
    parafoiler April 2 2016 07: 19
    +3
    The project called "Ukraine" is not viable on its own. It is an appendage and a parasite.
  9. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. April 2 2016 07: 23
    +2
    Quote: SHAMAN
    However, I didn’t understand something ....

    MIKHAN, for some reason I am not surprised.
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 07: 31
      -3
      Quote: Pinky F.
      Quote: SHAMAN
      However, I didn’t understand something ....

      MIKHAN, for some reason I am not surprised.

      Well knock .... hi
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 2 2016 07: 50
        -2
        Quote: SHAMAN
        Well knock ...

        no problem.
        1. SHAMAN
          SHAMAN April 2 2016 08: 00
          -3
          Quote: Pinky F.
          Quote: SHAMAN
          Well knock ...

          no problem.

          Thank ... hi You are a serious enemy ... It's not evening yet! bully
  10. EvgNik
    EvgNik April 2 2016 07: 23
    +8
    Very uncomfortable article. For commenting. It makes you think and look at some things in a completely different way and on the other hand. Changes in borders within the country are taking place in our time. Example: the unification of the Perm Region and the Komi Republic into the Perm Territory. They thought it was more profitable for the development of the region. At the same time, if the inhabitants of Komi want to have a separate region from Perm, no one will disturb them.
    So in the case of the Crimea. Residents had the right to choose - they made it.
    Under Stalin, no matter how much the current liberals scolded him, Russia grew in territory.
    Now we are only losing. What was conquered by our ancestors.
    1. Wheel
      Wheel April 2 2016 12: 11
      +3
      Quote: EvgNik
      Example: the unification of the Perm Region and the Komi Republic into the Perm Territory. They thought it was more profitable for the development of the region. At the same time, if the inhabitants of Komi want to have a separate region from Perm, no one will disturb them.


      Well, you are not a little confused.
      Not the Komi Republic, but the Komi-Perm national district, which since its inception was part of the Perm region and only at the dawn of capitalism "gained independence."
      As for the profitability for the development of the region, this is a controversial issue, just as the district did not develop before unification, and now the situation has not changed.
      There were many promises from Perm, but they were forgotten right after the merger.
  11. SHAMAN
    SHAMAN April 2 2016 07: 24
    +3
    It’s fun with Ukraine though ...))) Now when we take Kiev, such longing will come on the Internet ... (it’s hurting my heart ..) Zrada, premoga, get it ... How these words start!
  12. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 April 2 2016 07: 36
    +1
    Small or weak in spirit peoples for the purpose of self-preservation always stuck to a stronger neighbor. Having strengthened, they begin to be exalted, separate and degrade again ...
    Then they either dissolve in another nation, or the process repeats.
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 07: 41
      +2
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Small or weak in spirit peoples for the purpose of self-preservation always stuck to a stronger neighbor. Having strengthened, they begin to be exalted, separate and degrade again ...
      Then they either dissolve in another nation, or the process repeats.

      Ukrainians are our Russian people .. They have become famous all over the world!))))) The Internet is already raging, with delight ... In 10 years, I think I will modestly lower my eyes! Well, they drank vodka, I wanted lobster with whiskey .. laughing
  13. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. April 2 2016 07: 38
    -4
    Quote: SHAMAN
    It's fun with Ukraine though ...))) That's when we take Kiev

    Hey, Vitalik, have you at least read the article? Or - "I see a puddle - do you need to kick it?"
    3 minutes - master diagonal reading?
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. Vitwin
      Vitwin April 2 2016 07: 45
      +3
      Quote: Pinky F.
      Hey, Vitalik, have you ever read an article?

      Kamrad, I like a fascinating game on VO - Find Mikhan laughing
      Doesn't stop at the weekend, please with new reincarnation lol
      : Meehan however
      (from profile)))))
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 2 2016 07: 49
        -3
        Quote: Vitwin
        Kamrad, I like a fascinating game on VO - Find Mikhan

        +100
        he already has no teeth - he has stolen his accounts.
        1. SHAMAN
          SHAMAN April 2 2016 07: 58
          -3
          Quote: Pinky F.
          Quote: Vitwin
          Kamrad, I like a fascinating game on VO - Find Mikhan

          +100
          he already has no teeth - he has stolen his accounts.

          Your time has come ... You won the site, I admit! hi Taunt, cunningly and subtly (the site already quotes the Air Force ..))) Bravo! hi
          1. Pinkie F.
            Pinkie F. April 2 2016 08: 04
            +6
            Quote: SHAMAN
            You won on the site, I admit!

            take it easy. Nobody bothers with "website wins" except you.
            Quote: SHAMAN
            the site is already citing the Air Force ..

            And then what (link, by the way)?
            1. SHAMAN
              SHAMAN April 2 2016 08: 13
              0
              Quote: Pinky F.
              Quote: SHAMAN
              You won on the site, I admit!

              take it easy. Nobody bothers with "website wins" except you.
              Quote: SHAMAN
              the site is already citing the Air Force ..

              And then what (link, by the way)?

              You need to read more different resources and compare ..? I'm not Yandex .... (bans me quickly ..) But liberals start referring to VO (I'm in shock ..) Great move .. (was patriotic, became ..) Remained "pink floyds .." The sound of money they are in the song (if anyone knows ..))))
          2. Vitwin
            Vitwin April 2 2016 08: 08
            +4
            Quote: SHAMAN
            (the site already quotes the BBC ..)))

            Vitaly, the other day I saw a direct comment from Echo here ((Uzhoss, where this world is rolling crying
            You were Meehan the bestbut the clones, so-so, so come back so skat to the roots - cling to the source)))
            1. SHAMAN
              SHAMAN April 2 2016 08: 18
              -1
              Quote: Vitwin
              Quote: SHAMAN
              (the site already quotes the BBC ..)))

              Vitaly, the other day I saw a direct comment from Echo here ((Uzhoss, where this world is rolling crying
              You were Meehan the bestbut the clones, so-so, so come back so skat to the roots - cling to the source)))

              MIKHAN died ... There remained an evil troll! They cheated on me and not only in my soul ... There is a persecution of Russians on all fronts! It's a shame the hell ... For what?
              1. Senior manager
                Senior manager April 2 2016 09: 36
                +1
                Not at all, but why. But because the Russians do not really understand literacy, it will be worse further, because the USE rules the ball.
    3. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 07: 49
      -2
      Quote: Pinky F.
      Quote: SHAMAN
      It's fun with Ukraine though ...))) That's when we take Kiev

      Hey, Vitalik, have you at least read the article? Or - "I see a puddle - do you need to kick it?"
      3 minutes - master diagonal reading?

      I know these articles by heart ... (prepared ..)))
      And I think my comment with a picture is very suitable for the article ... Briefly and clearly!
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 2 2016 07: 58
        -4
        Quote: SHAMAN
        I know these articles by heart ...

        don't whistle, MIKHAN. Judging by your yogim comments - you forgot a textbook of history at school too.
    4. atalef
      atalef April 2 2016 07: 59
      +4
      Quote: Pinky F.
      Hey, Vitalik, have you at least read the article? Or - "I see a puddle - do you need to kick it?"
      3 minutes - master diagonal reading?

      Meehan knows VO, the article does not matter - the main thing is to press the comment first laughing
      1. SHAMAN
        SHAMAN April 2 2016 08: 26
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Pinky F.
        Hey, Vitalik, have you at least read the article? Or - "I see a puddle - do you need to kick it?"
        3 minutes - master diagonal reading?

        Meehan knows VO, the article does not matter - the main thing is to press the comment first laughing

        Here the specialist has appeared ... Greetings to the mouse! And where is the Professor (in the status of a consultant ..?) You always appear at a critical moment .. Well done! (I know your gang ..!) You crushed the site for yourself alas ... hi
        1. atalef
          atalef April 2 2016 09: 14
          +1
          Quote: SHAMAN
          . Greetings mouse!

          Bat wink
          the shaman understands in mice. hi
          Quote: SHAMAN
          You always appear at a critical moment ..

          On critical days laughing
          Quote: SHAMAN
          Well done! (I know your gang ..!

          It would be strange that you forget, even though you had a helmet shot in 10 places
          Quote: SHAMAN
          You crushed the site for yourself alas ..

          Is the site only wink
      2. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 2 2016 08: 39
        -3
        Quote: atalef
        Meehan knows VO, the article does not matter - the main thing is to press the comment first

        Sasha, do you want to bet? This snitch will be a lieutenant until the end of Saturday. And even older, if it does not go to throw garbage. I understand that he also minus from another account?
        1. SHAMAN
          SHAMAN April 2 2016 08: 51
          0
          Quote: Pinky F.
          Quote: atalef
          Meehan knows VO, the article does not matter - the main thing is to press the comment first

          Sasha, do you want to bet? This snitch will be a lieutenant until the end of Saturday. And even older, if it does not go to throw garbage. I understand that he also minus from another account?

          If you don’t tell me in one or two days, I’ll be a colonel! They are simply afraid of you here on the site .. You are here to jam everyone right away ... Before, "comrades from Israel" used to wear turtles here ... They were reset and skulls again ... Now they run the site, alas! And people like you are liberals. ..Soon you will be censored on the censor ..! Bravo gentlemen, you know how to wait ... and strike in the groin. And in pursuit, I rarely minus, as well as plus only the most and newcomers .. And it is useless to teach you scum ..))) Well, everything carried me! Guys hold on .. .and don't believe it ..
          1. Pinkie F.
            Pinkie F. April 2 2016 09: 09
            -4
            Quote: SHAMAN
            And you scum useless to teach ..

            degenerate teacher ... This is strong.
          2. atalef
            atalef April 2 2016 09: 21
            -2
            Quote: SHAMAN
            Quote: Pinky F.
            Quote: SHAMAN
            However, I didn’t understand something ....

            MIKHAN, for some reason I am not surprised.

            Well knock .... hi

            Quote: SHAMAN
            If you do not knock in one or two days I will be a colonel!

            Well, you Schmiehan and brake.
            The blindness of a deaf-mute child to the touch on the monitor will determine, so you also put yourself in wink
            Scout - illegal laughing
            1. andj61
              andj61 April 2 2016 09: 29
              -2
              Hello Alexander! hi
              Quote: atalef
              Well, you Schmiehan and brake.
              bully
              Bear Shikhman Bashkovit -
              He has foresight.
              "What do we see, - he says, -
              Besides television?
              You watch the competition in Sopot -
              And you swallow the dust,
              And whoever gets
              Let them go to Israel! "

              Envious, he just ... fellow
              1. atalef
                atalef April 2 2016 09: 33
                +1
                Quote: andj61
                Hello Alexander!

                Hi Andrew.
                He is a shaman ...... - he amuses himself in the morning.
                By the way, who knows where Vatnik disappeared? Did you fall ill with an hour?
                For a long time, I don’t see him.
                1. SHAMAN
                  SHAMAN April 2 2016 10: 12
                  -1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: andj61
                  Hello Alexander!

                  Hi Andrew.
                  He is a shaman ...... - he amuses himself in the morning.
                  By the way, who knows where Vatnik disappeared? Did you fall ill with an hour?
                  For a long time, I don’t see him.

                  They killed him ..!
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                2. Dan4eG
                  Dan4eG April 2 2016 15: 00
                  +2
                  padded jacket on the forum noise! smile
            2. SHAMAN
              SHAMAN April 2 2016 10: 09
              -1
              [quote = atalef] [quote = SHAMAN] [quote = Pinky F.] [quote = SHAMAN] I didn’t understand something, however, nothing .... [/ quote]
              MIKHAN, for some reason I am not surprised. [/ Quote]
              Well knock .... hi[/ Quote]
              [quote = SHAMAN] If you do not knock in one or two days I will be a colonel! [/ quote]
              Well, you Schmiehan and brake.
              The blindness of a deaf-mute child to the touch on the monitor will determine, so you also put yourself in wink
              Scout - illegal laughing[/ quote [quote = atalef] [quote = SHAMAN] [quote = Pinky F.] [quote = SHAMAN] I didn’t understand something, however, nothing .... [/ quote]
              MIKHAN, for some reason I am not surprised. [/ Quote]
              Well knock .... hi[/ Quote]
              [quote = SHAMAN] If you do not knock in one or two days I will be a colonel! [/ quote]
              Well, you Schmiehan and brake.
              The blindness of a deaf-mute child to the touch on the monitor will determine, so you also put yourself in wink
              Scout - illegal laughing[/ Quote]
              Rude ..! I usually write from the heart ... (I can’t hide in another way) do you manage the site ..?
        2. atalef
          atalef April 2 2016 09: 16
          +4
          Quote: Pinky F.
          Sasha, do you want to bet? This snitch will be a lieutenant until the end of Saturday

          Saturdays? you are pessimist
          Quote: Pinky F.
          I understand that he also minus from another account?

          shaman laughing
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN April 2 2016 10: 40
            +5
            Guys, I understand your indifference to each other. But maybe the topic is enough to litter?
            And, what kind of hatred is such an ardent Pinkie F. hatred for Meehan (Shaman)? Why would poison come from? Something personal?
            Well, and about the titles of Vitalik, yes, you just envy everything laughing
  14. Foresterer
    Foresterer April 2 2016 07: 45
    +3
    Zakhar blinded facts with fairy tales, and so something unintelligible turned out. I will not evaluate, I personally did not like it. Honestly, I did not understand at all, what is this opus for?
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 07: 54
      -1
      Quote: Foresterer
      Zakhar blinded facts with fairy tales, and so something unintelligible turned out. I will not evaluate, I personally did not like it. Honestly, I did not understand at all, what is this opus for?

      Here I am talking about the same thing ... Today is Saturday, and here they are again trying to poke around in my soul .... (you can’t feel sorry for swearing .. otherwise I would give a full analysis ..))))
      1. Vitwin
        Vitwin April 2 2016 08: 21
        +3
        Quote: SHAMAN
        (sorry you can’t swear .. otherwise I would have given a full analysis ..))))

        Do not hold back impulses coming from the heart - more ban, less ban ..
        1. SHAMAN
          SHAMAN April 2 2016 08: 35
          +2
          Quote: Vitwin
          Quote: SHAMAN
          (sorry you can’t swear .. otherwise I would have given a full analysis ..))))

          Do not hold back impulses coming from the heart - more ban, less ban ..

          I'm tired of coming up with nicknames ... I think the next one will be (ku ku))))) But seriously, I am shocked by the site ... One nagging and a thin flood against Russia! Many were cut off and there is fear (you feel who advised.) Goodbye guys! He said that he thought .. and I can’t adapt and don’t want to! These are the things in the tank troops ... hi
          1. Pinkie F.
            Pinkie F. April 2 2016 08: 46
            -2
            Quote: SHAMAN
            MIKHAN is dead ... Goodbye men! He said that he thought .. and I can’t adapt and don’t want to!

            what a speech ... To tears ... Do you write with your head in the oven?
            1. SHAMAN
              SHAMAN April 2 2016 09: 05
              -3
              Quote: Pinky F.
              Quote: SHAMAN
              MIKHAN is dead ... Goodbye men! He said that he thought .. and I can’t adapt and don’t want to!

              what a speech ... To tears ... Do you write with your head in the oven?

              Speech .. is that what? Muscovite probably ...))) You know how to talk there! Read the guys of this .. and remember! The talker is malicious, real (but don’t minus, calculate ..)))
          2. atalef
            atalef April 2 2016 09: 25
            +5
            Quote: SHAMAN
            Goodbye men! He said that he thought .. and I can’t adapt and don’t want to!

            .. and scribbled another 5 notes.
            Meehan, do not suppress a tear, you won’t go anywhere (and don’t).
            On Saturdays we don’t serve. laughing
      2. atalef
        atalef April 2 2016 09: 29
        +2
        Quote: SHAMAN
        . (It’s a pity you can’t swear .. otherwise I would give a full analysis ..))))
        1. SHAMAN
          SHAMAN April 2 2016 10: 48
          -3
          Quote: atalef
          (sorry you can’t swear .. otherwise I would have given a full analysis ..)))

          You are again on top .... Rejoice! MIKHAN soaked ..! bully
  15. Gardamir
    Gardamir April 2 2016 07: 46
    +4
    Shiz mows our ranks fool From the whole article, Krajina again began to discuss. Is it time to conduct a sanity test during registration?
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 08: 06
      -1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Shiz mows our ranks fool From the whole article, Krajina again began to discuss. Is it time to conduct a sanity test during registration?

      You have been selected and proud of it! hi
  16. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. April 2 2016 07: 53
    +4
    Well, Prilepin, in fact, in his role. Honestly, he should not undertake historical essays. Not his.
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 08: 57
      0
      Quote: Pinky F.
      Well, Prilepin, in fact, in his role. Honestly, he should not undertake historical essays. Not his.

      ESSAY ...))) What words do you know ... Do you teach? Oh well..
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 2 2016 09: 10
        +1
        Quote: SHAMAN
        ESSAY ...))) What words do you know ... Do you teach? Oh well..

        1. SHAMAN
          SHAMAN April 2 2016 10: 55
          -3
          Oh wey started on the site ... Well done comrades from Israel and personal congratulations to the Professor))))) status Consultant on the Russian site) ... It worked all the same for 2 years!
  17. Aleksander
    Aleksander April 2 2016 07: 54
    +1
    Strange people. Accented on the "s".


    Author and self-frank Eccentric-with accent "M". They tried to pull the Russophobic policy of the Bolsheviks in New Russia and Little Russia towards the idea of ​​the Russian Empire by the hair. Very stupid and unsuccessful, and most importantly-illiterate in relation to the facts that pleases, there is no justification for the Bolshevik policies of the Bolsheviks on the territory of today's Ruin, treacherous towards the Russian people, are real and weighty arguments.
    1. Blaster
      Blaster April 2 2016 08: 20
      +1
      Prilepin is a Jew. That says it all.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. April 2 2016 10: 50
        +1
        Quote: Blaster
        Prilepin is a Jew. That says it all.

        and what exactly is "everything"? Quite a mediocre writer (IMHO) with a pro-Kremlin stance. His journalism on the Ukrainian topic on the VO went with a bang. Nationality has nothing to do with it, I think. It's just that his historical exercises look rather amateurish.
      2. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 2 2016 12: 22
        +5
        Quote: Blaster
        Prilepin is a Jew. That says it all.

        And Voyaka Ukh recently called him a great Russian writer ... laughing
        1. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. April 2 2016 12: 44
          +3
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          called him a great Russian writer ...

          well, Levitan was a great Russian artist ... laughing
  18. Revolver
    Revolver April 2 2016 08: 03
    +2
    But many did not notice. Wonderful people. With emphasis on "s".
    These freaks are more and more with the letter "M" wassat
  19. hartlend
    hartlend April 2 2016 08: 10
    +4
    Among Russian nationalists, one, or rather, even two, vulgar ideas has recently been circulated.

    From the historical point of view, this is both so and not so.

    The author of the article, a representative of the so-called God-chosen people, does not fully imagine what he is writing about. One idea or two, one way or another. And Alexander 1 is bad and the Bolsheviks and, of course, nationalists. Now you can manipulate historical facts as much as you like, anyway readers will not be able to verify. To do this, refer to the documents. The author tactfully circumvents the issue. Who are the nationalists, what ideas they profess, where they came from and who finances them. If you answer these questions, it turns out that the author himself meets the criteria of a nationalist.
  20. Lukich
    Lukich April 2 2016 08: 12
    +7
    Quote: SHAMAN
    I didn’t understand something, but nothing .... Here it’s clear, like ..))))

    and here they explained well
  21. Holsten
    Holsten April 2 2016 08: 38
    0
    This article is interesting because it makes one check the facts that the author carefully avoids. In general, a lot of funny stretches and juggling. Firstly, the Bolsheviks did not build an empire, but laid the foundations for the collapse of the territory of the Russian Empire. The Soviet empire was built by Stalin, who was initially against division into national republics. Cunning in every paragraph, but without this, of course, a harmonious concept will not work.
  22. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 April 2 2016 09: 01
    +2
    "In the case of Ukraine, we got some problems, ... in the case of, say, Yakutia, we have a super-powerful industrial and intellectual region"
    Here is a very illustrative example that needs to be taken apart.
    Mostly from such regions as Yakutia, our country is composed, I mean
    1) territory with a harsh climate,
    2) the local population with their culture, customs, language.
    Russia did not conquer territories, territories were being developed, residents were included in the country's programs-industrialization, electrification, universal compulsory education, and health education.
    As a result, radical changes took place, but the population did not lose the connection of generations, preserved culture and traditions. This is very important, from generation to generation, young people know that their community with a huge country brought them new knowledge and did no harm. Therefore, the population is loyal.
    But in the case of Ukraine, the exact opposite process. The inhabitants of this region and the rest of Russia have long been one people, we have one language.
    The language of the inhabitants of different regions is different, but universal education has led to the fact that the population in different regions switched to literary Russian.
    For centuries, powerful migration flows have linked the western edge of the country with the rest of the territory. It was also interaction with the center, the discovery and development of Siberia, nation-wide construction projects, and the properties associated with the war and post-war reconstruction.
    If you look at the surnames, and the surnames were transmitted along the male line, then both Russian and Ukrainian are present in equal proportions in both countries. We are one people. A people with a common history, culture and language.
    And here is the fundamental difference between the Russian regions and Ukraine:
    where there was an influence of Russian power on different nationalities, there the people consider themselves to be part of the Russian people.
    Ukraine does not belong to those, this territory, like the rest of the country, is inhabited by one people, even genetically. Why did Russophobia appear there? The outskirts, the geopolitical interests of the United States and the West, and the climate is more favorable for life than in many regions of the country, fell under Western propaganda. Of course, all their accusations against Russia are absolutely groundless. The USSR, like Russia, strengthened the western frontiers. In this territory, in addition to a favorable climate, industry was developed, the best scientific personnel worked there. But the new, purely Ukrainian authorities decided that they would earn more on Russophobia than on production. For which they will pay.
    All Ukrainian Russophobia does not use historical realities, but the clichés of the West and the United States, which use their experience of repression and colonization of peoples to propagate, it is not by chance that among the photographs of the Holodomor there were pictures of hungry Americans from the time of the depression — there were simply no others.
  23. demo
    demo April 2 2016 09: 02
    +3
    Every nationalist who seeks mistakes in the Soviet era must be aware of at least two simple things.

    And if a person is not a nationalist, but wants to find and sort out the mistakes?
    Whereas?

    It's hard to argue with Prilepin.
    Sufficiently reasoned opus.
    And the writer is literate.
    But probably it is necessary to indicate the main error of the Soviet regime, which the Bolsheviks laid as a mine.

    In words, preaching internationalism, they began with the destruction of Russian identity.
    Lenin's article "On the national pride of the Great Russians" is a program document that sets out the vision of how "correctly" it is necessary to "form" the further destruction of Russians, their culture, traditions, etc.
    And against the background of the destruction and humiliation of all Russian, a large-scale rise and development of all non-Russian begins.
    Uzbek, Kazakh, Turkmen and, including Ukrainian.
    There are schools for teaching only in the Ukrainian language, universities that hire only Ukrainians - according to the passport, the production of newspapers, magazines, books in the Ukrainian language begins.
    It was precisely UKRAINIZATION of Ukraine, which Ukraine itself did not feel, until then. In their total mass, only a small number of nationalist-intellectuals-intellectuals positioned themselves as Ukrainians.

    If you look at today, we will see the following.
    The Ministry of Culture of Ukraine decided to ban the performance of songs in Russian.
    Well banned and banned.
    But then Ukrainian radio stations were outraged.
    And where to get so many musical compositions. performed in Ukrainian?
    Those. only 30% will be able to fill the air with the executors of the titular nation.
    And what do you do?
    Anyway.

    Even after 60 years of Bolshevik bending, 25 years of life in independence, two years of war with all Russians, Ukraine did not form a truly national, comprehensive, crowding out our, Russian, cultural layer, which could replace and ensure the filling of the cultural layer with country.
    What does this mean?

    Probably not about the fact that Ukraine won everywhere and unquestioningly.
    Here on this I suggest Prilepenu and focus his attention.
    And not on the fact that "Everything is lost! Gyps is being removed! The client is leaving."

    Russian always has two questions.
    1. Who is to blame !?
    2. What to do !?

    The culprits were dealt with. Let's deal with "what to do"?
  24. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN April 2 2016 10: 51
    +2
    I did not see the same decision in the article what to do ... And without this decision, everything else is a simple chatter. Time has gone to study history. It has already been transferred a hundred times from one dish to another, sorted through a grain ... It is time to look to the future make plans and execute them. Simple and intelligible plans that are understandable even to the most uneducated person. Set deadlines and ask the responsible person for these accomplishments.
    And so, one talking room.
    1. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. April 2 2016 10: 55
      -2
      Quote: Barkhan
      And so, one talking room.

      Well, what do you actually want from Prilepin?
      Quote: Barkhan
      Set deadlines and ask responsible persons for these accomplishments.

      this is not for him)
      1. SHAMAN
        SHAMAN April 2 2016 12: 10
        -2
        Quote: Pinky F.
        Quote: Barkhan
        And so, one talking room.

        Well, what do you actually want from Prilepin?
        Quote: Barkhan
        Set deadlines and ask responsible persons for these accomplishments.

        this is not for him)
        Kicks you all directly accompany ...!)))) And specifically hint that you can’t say so here! bully
        1. Pinkie F.
          Pinkie F. April 2 2016 12: 19
          -1
          Quote: SHAMAN
          Kicks you all directly accompany ...!)))) And specifically hint that you can’t say so here!

          what incoherent nonsense, MIKHAN?
          1. SHAMAN
            SHAMAN April 2 2016 14: 00
            -1
            Quote: Pinky F.
            Quote: SHAMAN
            Kicks you all directly accompany ...!)))) And specifically hint that you can’t say so here!

            what incoherent nonsense, MeIHAN?

            Just watching and writing, what I think ... And what I do not like? I do not like of course ...
  25. 31rus2
    31rus2 April 2 2016 11: 41
    0
    Dear, the answer is simple, when there is no and no steps are taken to solve the problem of Ukraine, they begin to look for the guilty, Bolsheviks, kings, tribes, etc., and it’s all easier and simpler now, and it was their inaction that led and will lead to more serious consequences
  26. user3970
    user3970 April 2 2016 13: 13
    0
    Well, the fact that Lenin "messed up" the issues of the division of territories is at least debatable. Motivating. History has no subjunctive mood. “They don’t turn the dead man back,” say the children. Do not forget when and under what conditions all this happened. And all this was done quickly. And Stalin, if this provision on the self-determination of nations contradicted his views on the future of the Soviet Union, could easily be corrected in the 1936 Constitution. But he didn't. Apparently, he did not calculate that in Russia two such ghouls as Gorbachev and Yeltsin could be born and come to power. As for the Crimea ... Well. people, got it already! Crimea, even during Lenin's life, was divided into shares and sold to the Jewish organization "Joint". Not only Crimea, but the entire Black Sea coast. There are documents. For a while they forgot about it. Crisis, World War II. We remembered this when the problem was posed: what to do with the Jews liberated from German concentration camps. The Americans, the owners of the shares, proposed to Stalin to organize a republic of Jews on the territory of the Crimea. Golda Meir came to Moscow on this occasion, and at the same time in Moscow there were demonstrations of Jews up to 50 people. He proposed to organize a Jewish republic in the Far East with the capital in Birobidzhan. But the problem with the Crimea remained. That is why Stalin was one of the initiators of the state of Israel in the territory under the protectorate of the Britons. The legal problem of the sale of Crimea began to be solved by him by transferring it (Crimea) from the jurisdiction of the Republic of the RSFSR to the jurisdiction of Ukraine. I must say that the Republic of Ukraine was represented in the UN by an independent diplomatic person. Stalin began to solve this problem, but was killed. And Khrushchev finished it. Sorry for the clumsy language.
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 14: 30
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      Jews have always been tenacious ....
      Quote: user3970
      Sorry for the clumsy tongue.

      You’ll be banned now or they will start fumbling ... What the hell are you talking about ...?
    2. Wheel
      Wheel April 2 2016 20: 29
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      Quote: user3970
      Crimea, even during Lenin's life, was divided into shares and sold to the Jewish organization "Joint". Not only Crimea, but the entire Black Sea coast. There are documents. For a while they forgot about it. Crisis, World War II. We remembered this when the problem appeared: what to do with the Jews liberated from German concentration camps. The Americans, the owners of the shares, proposed to Stalin to organize a republic of Jews on the territory of the Crimea.

      Any confirmation of this version would be nice.
      In fact, this is a remake.
  27. user3970
    user3970 April 2 2016 15: 07
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    To the shaman. Actually, I still consider the VO blog a zone of free thought. there was a similar conversation six months ago with the moderators, when they offered to accept state funding, but whoever dines on a girl dances her ... And, thank God, everything remained as it was. And I have the right to express my opinion, even if it goes against the opinion of the blog moderators. The majority is not always right. As they say in a certain environment: "I will answer for the market."
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 16: 09
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      Quote: user3970
      To the shaman. Actually, for the time being I consider the blog IN a zone of free thought. There was a similar conversation six months ago with moderators, when they suggested accepting state funding, but whoever dines for the girl dances her ... And, thank God, everything remains as it was.

      There was such a thing .... But the "girl" seemed to give herself up, who bought it! The BBC is already referring to this site ...)))) The professor consultant was not accidentally here ..! bully The site gained popularity and merged it ..... He is no longer patriotic! Glory to Ukraine!
  28. user3970
    user3970 April 2 2016 16: 19
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    Are you responsible for the bazaar?
    1. SHAMAN
      SHAMAN April 2 2016 17: 19
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      Quote: user3970
      Are you responsible for the bazaar?

      In nature, everything will be clear ..! (Orsk nishtyaki ..)))
  29. kashtak
    kashtak April 2 2016 18: 33
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    the article is so harshly aggressively chaotic and indistinct that one gets the impression that it was written with one goal in mind to repeat "Russian nationalist" as often as possible. and this is not the first such article. attention went psychological attack. harsh pressure and accusations of nationalism through the phrase. presumably the ultimate goal is to discredit the support of Donbass and reunification with Crimea through the declaration of this as a manifestation of nationalist (marginal) sentiments. as a result, strengthen the mood denying any integration with R.F. I hope no need to remind who promised to impede such integration by any means? here and hinder. I must admit famously implicated demagogy. anyone who tries to object can be blamed for nationalism.
  30. vetlan19
    vetlan19 April 2 2016 22: 22
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    Quote: Jura
    Jura Today, 08:33 ↑
    Quote: Shiva83483
    Thirdly, well, to whom, and what will we prove? Yes, and is it necessary?
    You don’t have to prove anything to anyone, but you need to tell the truth as it is. The article as a whole came to me, that is, it is smooth without hysteria and as a whole reflects the essence, our state was being built, manipulations with territories were taking place, the situation and environmental conditions dictated actions, how correct and adequate they were, which side to look at, but it’s already happened, you can’t change the past, only the future has different options.


    And I liked it.
    I compare my understanding and my knowledge about this issue with what a knowledgeable person says.