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In Kiev, began testing "Azovtsa"

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The engineering group of the Azov Regiment of the National Guard of Ukraine recently began testing the Azovets armored car built on the chassis tank T-64, reports the blog bmpd.




According to the developers, "" Azovets "is a tank for conducting combat in the conditions of the city, as well as a" highly protected heavy universal tracked platform. "

As reported at one of the Ukrainian forums, “the creation of the Azovets machine was started in the Azov regiment on its own initiative in April 2015, the project was financed using extrabudgetary funds (mainly donations and sponsorship)”.



“The undercarriage of the T-64 tank demilitarized and converted into a bulldozer was used as the chassis for the Azovets vehicle. On the undercarriage of the T-64 with the retention of the 5TDF engine, a new armored hull with enhanced protection, welded from flat rectangular plates made of aluminum carbide (play the role of a substrate for dynamic protection), was built, ”the message says.



According to the author, "around the armor case around the 500 XSChKV-34 dynamic elements" Knife "are installed, and on a large part of the body they are arranged in two layers (!) - one layer of elements is on the protective screens, the second is on the case."



On the roof of the hull mounted 2 combat modules of artisanal production with a rotation angle of 180 g. It is noted that “each module is equipped with a twin 23 mm automatic aviation GSh-23 cannon, one 7,62-mm PKT machine gun and launchers of the anti-tank guided missiles "Stugna" and "Korsar".



Crew - 4 person, incl. two arrows. Review - exclusively through the video camera system. The commander (according to the creators) has a “panoramic sight with a thermal imaging channel”.

In Kiev, began testing "Azovtsa"
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  1. avvg
    avvg 31 March 2016 10: 07
    +15
    Definitely, this is an example of the "miracle - technique" of Great Ukrov!
    1. BilliBoms09
      BilliBoms09 31 March 2016 10: 14
      +9
      It is painted beautifully, maybe even correctly, not a tanker. But in the photo, even I see that it is a chimera. I don’t remember who said that for the car to work well, it should be beautiful, here it’s some kind of freak.
      1. ,
        , 31 March 2016 10: 34
        +7
        It seems to me that "THIS" is from the 30s of the last century and can easily defeat a carriage with a maxim machine gun, well, or shoot down a glider on a thin "END" soldier
        1. Altona
          Altona 31 March 2016 10: 41
          +3
          Quote: andre
          It seems to me that "THIS" is from the 30s of the last century and can easily defeat a carriage with a maxim machine gun, well, or shoot down a glider on a thin "END"

          -----------------------
          You’re right, or rather, it’s even the beginning of the 1930s, and this is the TKS wedge that was invented by the Poles long ago.
          1. Sharky
            Sharky 31 March 2016 11: 26
            +10
            But on the example of "Azovets" we can now imagine what the saying "at the worst END" means. laughing
            1. Kars
              Kars 31 March 2016 13: 30
              +5
              They didn’t choose the chassis well. Better from the T-80 / 70. And so nothing is new
              1. Venceremos
                Venceremos 31 March 2016 13: 59
                +5
                Quote: Kars
                They didn’t choose the chassis well. Better from the T-80 / 70. And so nothing is new


                And T80 / 70, what kind of beast is this? Such a hybrid of the modern T-80, and the grandfather of the T-70, what is there in ukryna?

                And if we talk about the "platform", then Ukraine did not choose it correctly, even from the Maidan ...

                Yes, where there ... Back in 1991 yes ...
              2. Alekseev
                Alekseev 31 March 2016 14: 35
                +2
                Quote: Kars
                They did not choose the chassis well.

                Running and two-stroke diesel engines were not chosen, but what was available was used, i.e. There is a production of these units and assemblies.
                But theoretically, such a machine can be used in battles, but what is the price-quality ratio of God? request It is impossible to say anything without sufficient information about how the "universal platform" came about.
                One can foresee the first time: for success in the entom business, serious engineering work and solid financial investments in R&D and organization of production are required.
                There are doubts that they weren’t bulo, but a manual layout was welded manually.
                1. Venceremos
                  Venceremos 31 March 2016 16: 58
                  +6
                  Quote: Alekseev
                  Running and two-stroke diesel engines were not chosen, but what was available was used, i.e. There is a production of these units and assemblies.


                  Well, and blinded, from what was ...

                  What choice is Kars talking about? Isn't he too rosy in his assessment of the state and possibilities of tank building in particular, and of the Ukrainian economy in general?
                  1. Kars
                    Kars 31 March 2016 19: 28
                    +2
                    Quote: Venceremos
                    What choice is Kars talking about? Isn't he too rosy in his assessment of the state and possibilities of tank building in particular, and of the Ukrainian economy in general?

                    type in Ukraine there is no T-72 and t-80 at the repair shops and industrial sites. After all, the theme figurant was also not done from scratch.
                    1. Venceremos
                      Venceremos 31 March 2016 22: 22
                      +5
                      Quote: Kars

                      type in Ukraine there is no T-72 and t-80 at the repair shops and industrial sites. After all, the theme figurant was also not done from scratch.


                      Like, that the Ukrainian economy is raw for a piece of land, it's time to get ready, and not to invent and think about the production of a "miracle weapon".

                      In the garbage, of course, if you screw it well, then you can find a devil with horns, and not just the T-72 and T-80. Especially in Chernobyl wink ...
            2. Corporal Valera
              Corporal Valera 31 March 2016 14: 10
              +1
              Quote: Sharky
              But on the example of "Azovets" we can now imagine what the saying "at the worst END" means

              And what kind of scoreboards! Here the blind from RPG will not miss
          2. Now we are free
            Now we are free 31 March 2016 12: 33
            +2
            It’s interesting when the crew of this wrecked Bandenro-Shushpanzer militia of Donbass will be pulled out, they will also scream that the cooks and drivers? ..
        2. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 31 March 2016 11: 26
          +2
          Quote: andre
          It seems to me "THIS" from the 30s of the last century

          "THIS" is the modernized chariot of the "Great Ancient Ukraine"!

          PS: By the way, something is not visible fixed on the body of the shovels "Vilny diggers"!

          PPS: And, probably, they are buried inside. laughing
      2. Altona
        Altona 31 March 2016 10: 40
        +8
        Quote: BilliBoms09
        It is painted beautifully, maybe even correctly, not a tanker. But in the photo, even I see that it is a chimera. I don’t remember who said that for the car to work well, it should be beautiful, here it’s some kind of freak.

        -----------------------
        "Two layers of active armor" is somehow beyond good and evil. "Two handicraft combat modules" are from the series "foreign suede jackets-two, domestic silver cigarette cases-two".
      3. BMP-2
        BMP-2 31 March 2016 12: 38
        +1
        Quote: BilliBoms09
        some kind of freak.

        God be with her, with beauty. The main thing is to work. Well, in connection with this, the question is: was this kolymag able to storm by storm at least one building in Kiev? Well, there, for example, the Verkhovna Rada or the Cabinet in how many minutes they throw a white flag ??? what Or are similar firing points for this sample still impregnable? laughing

        Ps: the most criminal places in the city are impregnable. Conclusion: the tank is trash.
        1. BilliBoms09
          BilliBoms09 31 March 2016 23: 32
          0

          God be with her, with beauty
          Do not tell me, compare WWII tanks, ours and German had their predatory beauty and take French, British, American - some sheds with guns. And because of this, Soviet and German tanks and a tank building school were and are considered the best in the world.
      4. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 31 March 2016 12: 43
        +2
        The car is beautiful in its own way. Double-turret tanks in our country have not been built for 80 years, but here such a miracle. The practice of use is likely to prove the failure of the concept, but as a dead end branch of the development of armored vehicles, this model can still be included in books.
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 31 March 2016 10: 15
      +12
      Well, what did the authors want to say so that they would be happy for the Natsiks from the punitive battalion, and the sooner they burn this "miracle" of technology, the better it will be.
    3. Rostov Papa
      Rostov Papa 31 March 2016 10: 15
      +24
      The name is more suitable - "Dung" laughing
      1. Aryan
        Aryan 31 March 2016 12: 59
        +1
        and let construction helmets be given to ukrotankitsam, so that it was possible to jump in the tank fellow
    4. Sid.74
      Sid.74 31 March 2016 10: 17
      +25
      According to the developers' statement, "Azovets" is a tank for combat in urban conditions, as well as "a highly protected heavy universal tracked platform"

      I hesitate to ask, and this then in the understanding of the potrilegolovyh what?

      Or its new version ... wink

      - Destroyer of Worlds "Annihilator". An Imperial Executioner-class Super Star Destroyer .... laughing
      1. 341712
        341712 31 March 2016 10: 31
        +9
        Sid.74 (1) RU Today, 10: 17 ↑
        According to the developers' statement, "Azovets" is a tank for combat in urban conditions, as well as "a highly protected heavy universal tracked platform"
        I hesitate to ask, and this then in the understanding of the potrilegolovyh what?

        In fact, this scooter will not even notice "Thermos" .... I answer for the words .. I saw the first version at the training ground ... ImpressivelyMS)))) ...

      2. Login_Off
        Login_Off 31 March 2016 10: 42
        +31
        Oh no ... That's where the idea came from ...
        On the roof of the hull mounted 2 combat modules of artisanal production with a rotation angle of 180 g.
        1. Venceremos
          Venceremos 31 March 2016 11: 39
          +9
          Quote: Login_Off
          Oh no ... That's where the idea came from ...


          Armored vehicles of the beginning of the century, the past, and even then, did not lead to such sad thoughts as this ugly "Dung" ...

          In fairness, it must be said that the "Austin-Putilovets" was the best armored car in its class in the world during the First World War ...
          And in another class, with mixed cannon and machine gun armament, the best was "Garford Putilovets" ...
      3. Wild_grey_wolf
        Wild_grey_wolf 31 March 2016 11: 35
        +6
        Quote: Sid.74

        - Destroyer of Worlds "Annihilator". An Imperial Executioner-class Super Star Destroyer .... laughing


        And you are a connoisseur of Star Wars. . . Well, for them, most likely yes, because they consider themselves to be the side of good. The rebels standing on the bright side.
      4. Lexeus
        Lexeus 31 March 2016 12: 57
        +1
        Only maydanuty may not notice the difference between - a "pan" and a full-fledged technique ....
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 31 March 2016 10: 19
      +5
      Immediately evident on the fallow case to the sowing campaign laughing Interestingly, will there be a long vip? Or it will do without testing.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 31 March 2016 10: 23
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        Immediately evident on the fallow case to the sowing campaign laughing

        The kit should include a plow and a matpura ...yes
    6. 13 warrior
      13 warrior 31 March 2016 10: 28
      +2
      Is this the Ukrainian answer for heavy BMPs !? The new wunderwaffle!))
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 31 March 2016 10: 38
        +7
        According to the author, "around the armor case around the 500 XSChKV-34 dynamic elements" Knife "are installed, and on a large part of the body they are arranged in two layers (!) - one layer of elements is on the protective screens, the second is on the case."

        Hmm ... the question arose ... they all brewed the sheets ... where the explosion would go if they hit the dynamic protection ... it would not spread from the hull but between the sheets and the hull ... and would it not cause a chain reaction of nearby DZ ? what
        Novoztsy, well, let me see in your invincible supertank from an RPG ... Pts want to see the result ... of your monkey work ... laughing
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 31 March 2016 15: 51
          -2
          Already tested, and on all DZ - detonation of neighboring blocks does not cause.
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 31 March 2016 22: 06
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            Already tested, and on all DZ - detonation of neighboring blocks does not cause.

            Somehow the bonvoy use of "lower" on Ukrainian tanks in Donbass suggests otherwise ...
            That bish when hit in one block - 2 more neighboring ones detonated, the tank got damaged, and the crew - shell shock ...
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 April 1 2016 01: 23
              0
              There is no evidence of this - numerous photographs of the destroyed and wrecked Bulat confirm this.
              1. Albert1988
                Albert1988 April 1 2016 10: 41
                0
                Quote: Vadim237
                There is no evidence of this - numerous photographs of the destroyed and wrecked Bulat confirm this.

                In this case, just take a closer look at the photographs of the numerous damaged Ukrainian T-64s with the "bottom" hanging and at the same time the reports from the battlefield. where the militias show journalists the damaged Ukrainian equipment and, along the way, talk about the past clashes.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 1 2016 11: 01
                  -1
                  I’ve already seen all these reports and damaged tanks — the dynamic defense units are intact on them — mortars and artillery hit the tanks — the lion's share of casualties of military vehicles was precisely from this the rest of the ATGM and RPG hits, and not from undermining the dynamic defense, as one of the research institutes blurted out Steel.
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 1 2016 11: 06
                  0
                  The fuel tank blew when hit.
                3. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 1 2016 11: 10
                  0
                  This is where the tank cumulative shell most likely hit - again, it blew the fuel tank.
                4. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 April 1 2016 11: 13
                  0
                  On this tank, dynamic protection worked and this did not lead to the operation of neighboring modules.
                  1. Albert1988
                    Albert1988 April 1 2016 22: 23
                    0
                    In all the photographs that you quoted, the tanks worked not only one, but at least 2 DZ blocks, which clearly indicates the operation of several neighboring DZ blocks when they hit one of them.
                    As for:
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    This is where the tank cumulative shell most likely hit - again, it blew the fuel tank.

                    That cumulative I would never have led to such damage, a land mine - yes, but not cumulative. But according to the militia (and this car incidentally appeared in a video shot by Donetsk journalists) it was an anti-tank shell (I don’t remember exactly from the tank or from the artillery) that flew into the right cheekbone as many as 3 DZ detonators, and the fuel tank exploded with their explosion tank, and the crew got a shell shock.
                    So the conclusions are quite obvious ...
      2. Venceremos
        Venceremos 31 March 2016 13: 12
        +7
        Quote: 13 warrior
        Is this the Ukrainian answer for heavy BMPs !? The new wunderwaffle!))


        Pole mercenary, asks the Ukrainian manure man:

        - Pan himself riveted?

        Navozovec (proudly):

        - None, DERZHAVA! ...
    7. Samen
      Samen 31 March 2016 10: 46
      +25
      The articulation of the sheets is worthy of attention!))))
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 31 March 2016 15: 50
        -3
        These are the blocks of dynamic protection so put.
    8. bocsman
      bocsman 31 March 2016 11: 20
      +7
      The mess on the territory of the plant and in its premises is symbolic. Another "pearl" from the dung heap! And all under the Ssov symbol. Apparently this flag is destined to fly over the trash heap!
    9. Yun Klob
      Yun Klob 31 March 2016 12: 11
      +1
      By the number of towers ahead of the rest.
      1. Venceremos
        Venceremos 31 March 2016 13: 23
        +11
        Quote: Yoon Klob
        By the number of towers ahead of the rest.


        This is for the tank ...

        And in the country, how many crazy ? Those and Guinness can not be counted.
  2. RUSS
    RUSS 31 March 2016 10: 07
    +28
    The combat module with a tarp closed laughing secret development mother of their etit !!! laughing
    1. Kibalchish
      Kibalchish 31 March 2016 10: 09
      +6
      Armata is hidden under a tarpaulin laughing
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 31 March 2016 13: 37
        +3
        Quote: RUSS
        secret development mother of their etit !!! laughing

        So, the Moscow shpoobs didn’t snatch the supermodern re-engineering of the building forces of Ukraine. We keep the secrecy and confidentiality so to speak ...
        And then they will copy and put it on their cardboard Armata ... laughing
      2. Venceremos
        Venceremos 31 March 2016 15: 18
        +6
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Armata is hidden under a tarpaulin


        Collected the same, from the destroyed under ... Where did they burn the "Armata" there?
  3. vanavatny
    vanavatny 31 March 2016 10: 08
    +31
    if only they wouldn’t start fighting the towers when I’m drunk, I would rather
  4. Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy 31 March 2016 10: 10
    +7
    Given the lack of a hatch for the driver, a good coffin turned out.
    1. Bredovich705
      Bredovich705 31 March 2016 11: 15
      +2
      Moreover! The mechanic seems to be riding on a smartphone! Since observation devices are not provided!
      1. Trigger-Happy
        Trigger-Happy 31 March 2016 12: 50
        +1
        No, not on a smartphone, apparently it doesn’t exist there at all, this miracle will be towed apparently. By the way the T-64 was recognized as unpromising, including due to the impossibility of increasing mass due to the weak chassis.
  5. kugelblitz
    kugelblitz 31 March 2016 10: 10
    +8
    The photo on the background of industrial landscapes, a la fallout, is impressive.
  6. Dam
    Dam 31 March 2016 10: 11
    +17
    The process itself is interesting. Regarding the fighting qualities of the shushpanzer, everything is clear without words. But gentlemen are stubborn, they are officially testing a dumpster on the basis of a tractor with fanfare! What is it - arrogant drank money or syphilis of the brain? But they were just normal people recently.
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 31 March 2016 10: 35
      +2
      they’re just getting ready for the collapse of Ukraine into parts and situations a la 1918 - there are many different local gangs
      in such a situation it will be a strong trump card
    2. Baloo_bst
      Baloo_bst 31 March 2016 10: 41
      +4
      Regarding the fighting qualities of the shushpanzer, everything is clear without words.


      I am not a specialist, but there are many questions about the "fighting qualities". It doesn't take much mind to weld "flat rectangular plates made of aluminum carbide", but the increase in weight will affect the mobility and reliability of the suspension, which is already used.
      I think that during these "top-secret" tests, it is a miracle that it will go around dilapidated hangars a couple of times, and when the solarium runs out, the "experts" will unanimously sit down to compile the performance characteristics of the declared apparatus.
      Then the world will shudder. The pitiful "Abrams" with "Armats" and "Merkavas" are no longer needed by anyone. The SBU is driving hundreds of spies away from this technical miracle. Tank builders from all over the world are ready to pay a lot of money to visit Sar ..., I apologize in the hangar where this masterpiece was created. In short "Moscow-Vasyuki".
      1. Pavel Tsybai
        Pavel Tsybai 31 March 2016 11: 25
        +2
        If you disassembled a burnt-out internal combustion engine and saw a "floating" piston, then the dark part rubbed on the piston is aluminum carbide. A very hard but terribly fragile substance.
      2. Shuttle
        Shuttle 31 March 2016 11: 50
        +2
        Aluminum carbide is a mistake. Author or ukrov - it does not matter.

        Aluminum carbide is sometimes used in pyrotechnics to achieve the effect of sparks. Can be used as an abrasive in cutting tools. It has approximately the same hardness as topaz.
        If they really made carbide, then fireworks are provided. Combined armor uses not aluminum carbide (Al4-C3), but aluminum oxide (Al2-O3). And just as a substrate.
    3. Pinkie F.
      Pinkie F. 31 March 2016 11: 49
      +2
      Quote: Damm
      The process itself is interesting. Regarding the fighting qualities of the shushpanzer, everything is clear without words. But gentlemen are stubborn, they are officially testing a dumpster on the basis of a tractor with fanfare! What is it - arrogant drank money or syphilis of the brain?

      It seems to me that this is stupid unconstructive propaganda. Type - Svidomo self-taught handicraftsmen took care of the combat effectiveness of Nenko and put all their strength on the alt ... sorry, on the workbench of the revolution. Especially when you consider that
      The project was financed using extrabudgetary funds (mainly donations and sponsorship)
      - does this not contribute to patriotic diarrhea among the jumpers? It is clear that this "railway kaput" will not go into any series, but will become another symbol and advertisement of "Azov".
  7. Smoked
    Smoked 31 March 2016 10: 11
    +6
    It was necessary to send to Africa, to experience the rebellious zusuls, so as not to destroy Europe ahead of time.
    1. 0255
      0255 31 March 2016 10: 33
      +14
      Quote: Smoked
      It was necessary to send to Africa, to experience the rebellious zusuls, so as not to destroy Europe ahead of time.

      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. 31 March 2016 12: 18
        +5
        Quote: 0255
        Iron Capote

        Grzegorz and Ball are not the same ...
        1. Venceremos
          Venceremos 31 March 2016 12: 55
          +12
          Quote: Pinky F.
          Grzegorz and Ball are not the same ...


          Well, let's say, mercenaries, a Georgian and a Pole, they will put it there ...

          BUT DOG (reasonable creature) what ... there will not climb No. lol
          1. Pinkie F.
            Pinkie F. 31 March 2016 13: 31
            +4
            Quote: Venceremos
            BUT DOG (a rational creature) ... There will not climb

            herself, of course not ...
  8. Gray 43
    Gray 43 31 March 2016 10: 12
    +7
    As I understand it, the Maidan was standing)))) I remember that the history of tank building began precisely with multi-tower tanks, apparently in Ukraine they are ready to complete the story with them
  9. gergi
    gergi 31 March 2016 10: 13
    +7
    Circle of crazy hands. A feather to them in w, pu and a hurricane in the back. Let the clunkers sculpt. One must be proud of something, why not this customized bulldozer?
  10. Lopatov
    Lopatov 31 March 2016 10: 13
    +5
    This is probably common to all such regimes - attempts to create a "wunderwaffe"
  11. triglav
    triglav 31 March 2016 10: 14
    +4
    Well, that’s it! Here it is!
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    2. Altona
      Altona 31 March 2016 11: 14
      +2
      Quote: triglav
      Well, that’s it! Here it is!

      -----------------
      Exactly, now I’m able to run this into trouble and to grind it ...
  12. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 31 March 2016 10: 14
    +3
    This is a barbecue!
    All in a heap and "so as not to kill."
    And so that from all five trunks of the enemy.
    But the target is good and welcome.
  13. Same lech
    Same lech 31 March 2016 10: 16
    +2
    Overview - exclusively through a camera system.


    Interestingly camcorders with a powerful laser can I disable it ???
    Question to LOPATOV smile rate this monster .... and how to deal with this miracle of Ukrainian thought in urban conditions.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 31 March 2016 10: 46
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      rate this monster .... and how to deal with this miracle of Ukrainian thought in urban conditions.

      I will appreciate it as a useless toy. For the city, two 23-mm guns are brutal, but useless.
  14. Hubun
    Hubun 31 March 2016 10: 16
    +2
    Well, they will coax on this rusty basin. They will figure out for themselves what they set as their goal
  15. qwaigon
    qwaigon 31 March 2016 10: 16
    +2
    ... from RPG they are going to mock identity on him
  16. Knowing
    Knowing 31 March 2016 10: 17
    +9
    "Engineering group" - only in quotation marks ... Probably already signed contracts ... laughing
  17. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 31 March 2016 10: 18
    +2
    another wundervaflya from "great ukrov"
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 31 March 2016 10: 22
      +3
      Quote: Bulrumeb
      another wundervaflya from "great ukrov"

      Another joke from Poroshenko .... fool
      The President of Ukraine was invited to call Ukraine “Kievan Rus”.

      It is reported by RIA Novosti. Such a petition appeared on the website of Petro Poroshenko on March 30.
      “To return the historical name of Kievan Rus to our country so that they don’t say that we were never independent,” the petition said.

      This idea has already been approved by 39 people, all in all, 25 thousand signatures are needed to consider the petition.
      1. pts-m
        pts-m 31 March 2016 13: 17
        +1
        Not otherwise, with a change of name, states want to avoid paying debts. This is often used by cunning entrepreneurs when evading taxes. Plagiarism. However.
      2. Venceremos
        Venceremos 31 March 2016 14: 24
        +7
        Quote: RUSS
        This idea has already been approved by 39 people, all in all, 25 thousand signatures are needed to consider the petition.


        Where do they subscribe? Give me a link.

        I'll go in and vote FOR. To then tear your stomach, looking like the powder will scratch turnips:

        “Shaw, what have we done?”
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  18. Putinets
    Putinets 31 March 2016 10: 19
    +2
    Interestingly, a sample was brought to the exhibition in India? Buyers will flee from all over the world, especially Arabs and Turks, or maybe India and China will buy? Know-how
  19. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 31 March 2016 10: 21
    +1
    Despite all the sheets and "knives" there, and the machine came to slap into the tracks. Yes, and it seems that it is rather weak for a lateral defeat.
  20. sichevik
    sichevik 31 March 2016 10: 21
    +6
    And how many pieces? Well experienced, then what? Set up serial production in Kharkov? What armor did they make of? Accidentally not from decommissioned boilers? For all these miserable attempts, which were raging on the outskirts, like peerogues, we had already seen enough for two years. They have presented so many all kinds of underwaffles and karamultuk so much that somehow it is no longer impressive. Knowing what their potential was in defense, shipbuilding, aircraft building, tank building, and in many other ways, all kinds of such masterpieces of them cause a smile. And the funniest thing is that they’re publicizing their all sorts of such masterpieces, and the militias in the Donbass either squeeze them from the punishers immediately or burn them in the first minutes of the battle.
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 31 March 2016 11: 33
      +5
      I agree with you 100, the potential of Ukraine in the development and construction of various weapons was comparable to the potential of Russia (except for the construction of nuclear submarines)
      but for a quarter of a century they sawed, stolen, sold everything that could bring them income.
      It turns out they raped themselves, we were waiting for about the same scenario. We were helped by EBN, who made the Russians a New Year's gift
      1. ydjin
        ydjin 31 March 2016 11: 57
        +8
        Quote: VALERIK_097
        I agree with you 100, the potential of Ukraine in the development and construction of various weapons was comparable to the potential of Russia (except for the construction of nuclear submarines)
        but for a quarter of a century they sawed, stolen, sold everything that could bring them income.
        It turns out they raped themselves, we were waiting for about the same scenario. We were helped by EBN, who made the Russians a New Year's gift

        "-I'm leaving!" After these words, Hope settled in my soul personally! The best thing that E.B.N. In my life! I served in Germany, and when I was already a civilian watching the ceremony of the withdrawal of our troops from Germany ... I was, to put it mildly, very dumbfounded by the behavior of our panimash, "guarantor" EBN. I was ashamed to the depths of my soul for this clown, and a shame for the Motherland! After the shots with the drunk conductor, I just turned off the box and went and got drunk! And the next morning I told myself that EBN is not my president.
    2. vital.33
      vital.33 April 3 2016 19: 17
      +2
      Well, for the sake of justice, it should be noted that it was not Kharkiv who built (Malyshev's plant), but the repair parts of Azov, in the shops of the former Atek plant in Kiev. They built it purely for themselves, no one calls it a "masterpiece". It is positioned as a vehicle for battles in the city, and not as an infantry fighting vehicle. In general, the concept (as I understand it) of maximum protection, and maximum density of fire. Only reality will show what it is good for ...
  21. Warm Padded Jacket
    Warm Padded Jacket 31 March 2016 10: 23
    +8
    and under the covers what, dry closets? for crap "Azovs"?)))
  22. Cananecat
    Cananecat 31 March 2016 10: 24
    +2
    Just another test? And I’m still waiting when the LNR army team will take selfies against its background. ((
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 31 March 2016 12: 36
      +1
      And why did you decide that in the DPR ... comrade to Kiev, to Kiev, to the new Maidan, that’s it. said that for urban fighting.
  23. Awaz
    Awaz 31 March 2016 10: 25
    +2
    But is there still armored vehicles with two towers in world practice?
    1. 13 warrior
      13 warrior 31 March 2016 10: 33
      +2
      As far as I know, multi-tower machines were abandoned back in the mid 30s of the last century. The inconvenience of fire control affected.
      Although, given the latest developments in the field of technology and electronics, maybe someone else is developing.
      1. tovarich67
        tovarich67 April 3 2016 19: 23
        0
        I saw how on Israel the Israelis put on the M113 on each side a double-barreled mortar to destroy ATGMs and RPG grenades. They say that they can even bring down BPS from the trajectory. Why not multi-tower equipment
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  25. Aleks76
    Aleks76 31 March 2016 10: 26
    +2
    Whatever the child amused, it would not hang himself.
  26. darc fire
    darc fire 31 March 2016 10: 26
    +6
    They seem to be back at the beginning of the 20th century, they recalled the T26 in the two-tower version. Yes fresh concept.
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 31 March 2016 10: 44
      +8
      It’s fresh ... a sports car with 2 towers :)
      1. Venceremos
        Venceremos 31 March 2016 13: 29
        +8
        Quote: Login_Off
        It’s fresh ... a sports car with 2 towers :)


        Armored car Mgeberova. The most progressive in the world, during the PMV, development in the field of armored vehicles.
        Pay attention to the rational angles of the slope of the armor, and how the turrets are spaced to increase the firing sector.

        It will become clear that our ancestors did not slurp their cabbage soup.




        And then look at the ukro wunder waffle.
  27. 76SSSR
    76SSSR 31 March 2016 10: 29
    +3
    The United States seems to want to equip a couple of armored brigades with them - it’s cheaper than chasing Armata ...)
  28. BATMANFOREWER
    BATMANFOREWER 31 March 2016 10: 30
    +5
    Meaningless and merciless
  29. goose
    goose 31 March 2016 10: 30
    +3
    If the reservation is made of tungsten carbide, then this armored enclosure burns when using napalm no worse than sparklers, only the scale is larger. And most importantly: where in the pictures are the remote sensing and screens that make up the only real defense?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 March 2016 15: 55
      +1
      Vryatli Tungsten carbide from napalm will "burn" - not even melting.
  30. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 31 March 2016 10: 32
    +5
    I remember that Rybalko (Ukrainian, by the way), Marshal of the armored forces, said the cleverest words about the assault on Berlin by tanks: "I will not take it, I will bypass it, and I will give all the glory to the infantry." Our "strategists" during the storming of Grozny did not deign to remember these words and burned an entire army. And these go there with toys under the RPG. Ieybogu, the history of fools does not teach anything, this is not the Black Sea to drip.
    1. Forest
      Forest 31 March 2016 10: 45
      +3
      Tanks feel normal in the city when DZs are hung up and infantry covers. And without armor, the infantry city is not known how much it will take.
    2. Venceremos
      Venceremos 31 March 2016 13: 44
      +5
      Quote: avg-mgn
      And these are the same with toys under the RPG. Ieybogu, the history of fools does not teach anything, it’s not for you to drip the Black Sea.


      And who will let them into the cities? ? ? belay
  31. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 31 March 2016 10: 33
    +1
    A miracle of hostile technology, it was she who ruined the mirrors.
  32. dezmon
    dezmon 31 March 2016 10: 34
    +4
    it feels like he's upholstered and painted with tin !!!
  33. Served once
    Served once 31 March 2016 10: 35
    +3
    Someone has to run next to wet wipes, wipe the cameras. In urban combat conditions (dust from soil, concrete and other things), he will quickly "go blind". Next is the matter of a bottle of Molotov cocktail and a sniper working on the landing.
  34. tchoni
    tchoni 31 March 2016 10: 35
    +11
    I will leave aside my political biases and comment on abstract positions.
    1) the idea of ​​this machine clearly came from afghanistan (if you look at the first versions of bmpt - it’s very similar).
    2) Judging by the suspension, the car turned out to be somewhat overweight. While in the city - maybe nothing, but how to have a drape - they will probably give it to the Donetsk team.
    3) The height of the hull is clearly increased from the desire, in addition to the declared 4 crew members, to carry more assault forces. But, at the same time, the input output is not very thought out (the same trouble on the BMOT).
    4) An exploded two-channel weapon system under certain conditions is a plus (this is when infantry needs to be crushed and this infantry is surrounded by a tank and goes into a psychic attack with joined bayonets in front uniforms and combat units) But, when meeting with enemy tanks - sorry, yours are not dancing now .
    5) The lack of intersection of the shelling sectors is a forced decision. those. this design when attacking from the flank for firing capabilities - the usual btr4.
    6) Aluminum alloys, being doused with gasoline or solarium, burn excellently.
    7) DZ on the sides that something is not visible. Obviously the car crouches with him much more seriously.
    1. Serg81
      Serg81 31 March 2016 11: 44
      +2
      [B]7) DZ on the sides that something is not visible. Obviously the car crouches with him much more seriously.- DZ is located outside and is protected by thin armor. Only my question is: when an RPG grenade hits the DZ, how will the second DZ behave on the main armor, will it work ????
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 31 March 2016 12: 49
        +1
        no, most likely, there will be still a hinged kit to the main one (built-in. By the way, the built-in usually is bolted. what would be convenient to change. but here is welding) Otherwise, the hodovka is naked. Sit in the basement and shoot. The Czechs did so menacingly
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        2. Serg81
          Serg81 31 March 2016 13: 12
          +2
          no, most likely, there will be still a hinged kit to the main one (built-in. By the way, the built-in usually is bolted. what would be convenient to change. but here is welding) Otherwise, the hodovka is naked. Sit in the basement and shoot. The Czechs did so menacingly I agree, only on this model DZ is brewed with armor plates and is located under them. In the event that the WG gets into the tank and the DZ is triggered, even if it is successful, the tank will need to be dragged to a rembase, since in the field conditions DZ and armored plates cannot be changed.
  35. Silman1985
    Silman1985 31 March 2016 10: 37
    +3
    that I doubt that this miracle of technology will "survive" in real combat conditions, it hurts like everything is slap and tense, only one description is beautiful, but the rest is sorry full G ... Oh!
  36. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 31 March 2016 10: 39
    +5
    Quote: Hubun
    They will figure out for themselves what they set as their goal

    like that?
  37. VB
    VB 31 March 2016 10: 40
    +2
    laughing Can you imagine what will happen to this tank when a shell hits? I personally would not want to see.
  38. engineer74
    engineer74 31 March 2016 10: 41
    +10
    protection welded from flat rectangular plates made of aluminum carbide
    Something they have "aluminum carbide" and the method of its welding are suggestive of Steel 3 GOST 380-88 ...
    Gloomy prancing Ukrainian genius ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 March 2016 15: 57
      +2
      The guys did not have enough armor
  39. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 March 2016 10: 41
    +6
    In general, it’s clear how to fight this thing. From a large-caliber sniper you knock out one combat module. It’s enough for him to hit the target, and his darling has already hoarse, in the sense one side is not dangerous. You go from the side of the damaged tower and from the grenade launcher a couple of times. How the two-layer dynamic defense works - there is not enough imagination. I suspect that when the indoor unit is triggered, it will disrupt several external ones. Well, then into the resulting breach in defense ... If you don’t wash off before. Yes, and the driver on this cuttlefish is a guaranteed barbecue, if something goes wrong. How will he get out of this ...
  40. VALERIK_097
    VALERIK_097 31 March 2016 10: 45
    +5
    Maybe I'm wrong, but you can disable the camcorder with a simple laser pointer (my HD camera died when a friend in the garage with a Chinese green laser decided to play and pulled on the lens, the camera shot our feast and stood on a tripod. (But this is from a negative, positive it was beautiful weather, it was snowing, the laser pointer hit 300 meters, beautifully however)
    And now the question for specialists: Is it possible to make this super duper car blind?
    RPG does not offer, a little expensive))))
  41. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 31 March 2016 10: 45
    +3
    And why did they tighten the modules with covers? From the dust? It’s just that if I tried to classify it, there are already pictures on the Internet that they screwed them there, they themselves showed, hanged lol
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 31 March 2016 12: 43
      +2
      We just heard somewhere that on new tanks it is customary to hide the turret and guns under the tarpaulin. So it comes out "And we are worse than others."
  42. Kochegarkin
    Kochegarkin 31 March 2016 10: 46
    +5
    another surprises me
    comrades "neighbors" are stubbornly building a military-industrial complex for the production of weapons and equipment for warfare in the city, that is, they are planning military operations to suppress uprisings, exaggerated ... to the war, nidaybozhe) that is, they are not even going to put up with the DPR LPR, they still plan to destroy them, in the literal sense ...
    HORROR!!!!
  43. Evil 55
    Evil 55 31 March 2016 10: 51
    +4
    However, a rare thing ... biscuit .... what life, such and machines ...
  44. Hooks
    Hooks 31 March 2016 10: 55
    +6
    Judging by the number of elements of dynamic protection (500), as a result of detonation from a shot, at least SVD this shushpanzer annihilates to zero.
    By the way, in the photo you can’t see these elements. Did they screw them inside?
  45. nivander
    nivander 31 March 2016 10: 56
    +7
    to train anti-tank artillery crews, the Germans made tanks similar to the "Sherman". Azovets is also similar to the "Sherman overgrown" and seems to serve as a good target for training the anti-tank defense system of the VSN
  46. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 31 March 2016 11: 13
    +2
    They said that "Armata" is made of plywood and cardboard, a counter question, what do you have? Papier Moshe?
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  47. Pavel Tsybai
    Pavel Tsybai 31 March 2016 11: 14
    +6
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Armata is hidden under a tarpaulin

    Yeah, this one.
  48. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 31 March 2016 11: 16
    +4
    and he is in a single copy?
    The chassis of the demilitarized and converted into a bulldozer T-64 tank was used.
    That is - MT-T, or what?
  49. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 31 March 2016 11: 18
    +1
    And what was weak Svidomo take pictures under his brainchild? So to speak for reality and preferably under the tracks ...

    Pisi: And what kind of gibberish is written on his sides?
    1. tchoni
      tchoni 31 March 2016 11: 26
      +1
      vypuobuvaniya - in other words tests. And why yellow is the normal color for a madhouse.
    2. Cornet77
      Cornet77 31 March 2016 11: 32
      +1
      Viprobuvannya-with Ukrainian.-tests))
  50. gukoyan
    gukoyan 31 March 2016 11: 19
    +2
    It’s kind of cardboard ... The base is from the T-64, but the case is from a garbage can ... Papiemache in general))