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Ukrainian "carp", or Is there a precise definition of the death of the state?

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Virtually the entire "post-Independence" period of the press, including us, writes about the degradation of the Ukrainian state. Years, precisely years, we are looking at the systematic destruction of Ukraine in all spheres. We see the curtailment of democracy under the brand name of the struggle for this very democracy. We are looking for a civil war, under the brand name of the fight against the same war. We are looking at the destruction of economic ties, and indeed of Ukraine’s economy in general, under the label of the struggle for the revival of this very economy. We look at the impoverishment of the people under the slogans of improving the lives of ordinary people.


Ukrainian "carp", or Is there a precise definition of the death of the state?


And at the same time, we see the growing desire of Ukrainians to find the enemy without. The textbook is already the enemy in the face of Russia tired. Russia does not comply with the instructions of Ukraine. It does not fall apart, it does not “eat up” the last penny, it does not whimper on the outskirts of European and world forums about some kind of help. Lives and lives. Moreover, for some reason, European and American diplomats often went to "dying" Russia. Just "to talk".

Probably, it will be difficult to find such a media, no matter where it is written or said about the "bottom", to which Ukraine has descended. Everything ... "The next" bottom "has been reached. And suddenly, after a while, it turns out that this is the" wrong bottom. "There is more.

Oddly enough, but I received an answer to the question about the number of these "sinking" from an old fisherman. A man in love with fishing, who knows about fish, probably everything.

"Yes, all right, you write ... Fish really sinks at certain periods to the bottom. And everything seems to be. In our opinion, humanly ... But, for example, a crucian carp. He spat on the bottom for other fish. He for the winter it is buried in the silt ... So the bottom is completely different for a crucian than for a bite or there are rubs ... "

Very simply explained. The whole world sees the bottom for Ukraine. And Ukrainians are already "digging the il." We think they are at the bottom, and they are at work.

The circus that we see today in Ukrainian politics, roughly from the same series. The world's media at least once express their opinions on the political crisis in Kiev. Leading politicians will vote. All those who follow the Kiev gestures.

Political crisis! Yatsenyuk has a rating that he does not have at all! The new coalition in Rada is crumbling (gathering)! The President supported that in the morning, and in the evening of this ... The whole world is following with interest ...

Why do I call it a circus? The answer is on the surface. What are circus artists working for? In order for us to rest. We admired their capabilities, but rested first. Many probably caught themselves thinking how simple everything is done by artists. It is necessary - handstand. It is necessary - flying under the circus dome. Some even tried to repeat. It turned out that it was just from the side. Just because people have been working on it for years.

And what about Kiev? And in Kiev, except Yatsenyuk, there are a couple of candidates for premieres. Yaresko and Groisman. What is the difference between these characters Ukrainians do not really need to know. Yes, and the Rada deputies, too. There is. You just have to press the button ... and you will get the result. That’s all.

Today, the country is really "buried in silt." Stop this process is no longer possible. And everyone understands this. The change of "ass" on the premier's chair will not solve anything. Already almost 70% of Ukrainians live on the brink of elementary survival. Talk about a European future is already perceived as a mockery. And the word "bezviz" became abusive.

Both candidates for prime ministers of Ukraine did not even deign to tell the people about their vision of overcoming the crisis. What for? People believe the word! He said (a) will bring, then I will bring!

So what is the difference between candidates? And the difference is in one point. Groisman - partial external control. Yaresko - complete external control. Maybe because Groisman partially “mumbled” something about his program in the Rada. And Yaresko didn't even open her mouth. Why argue? Colonies are controlled from the metropolis. And absolutely no need to ask the Aborigines for their opinion.

The tragedy of the Ukrainian people is that today the power in the country does not belong to the government or the people. Power really belongs to the nationalists and the Nazis. There is no one to lean on the state. Army? To speak of the Ukrainian army as a pillar of the state is not even funny. The army today is more like a mine under the state. And no one knows when she can jerk.

Siloviki? What security forces we can talk about today, if weekly then at the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then not even dozens, hundreds of “traitors and spies” find in the SBU. When thousands of professionals are replaced by politically loyal amateurs.

There are still saviors. We periodically, when the situation comes to a standstill, we recall them. Oligarchs! They seem to be able to buy everything and sell everything. They need Ukraine. And if you look carefully? Do I need? Where have you seen big business (namely oligarchic), which would be concentrated in one country. Oligarchs out of the country. The oligarchs "make money" and as soon as this money becomes small, they leave. Homeland is where I feel good, understand where it’s good to make money, their principle.

The collapse of the country began. Circus program goes to the natural finale. Already made "strong men" in the Donbas. Speakers "magicians" in the economy. Performed "dog trainers" with the preparation of youth. Speech "clowns" in lawmaking.

The spectators, at least those of them who have such an opportunity, have already pulled from the circus building to the exit. Those who still have the ability to think, understand that the program is over. Money Spent. And now you need to go outside. In the dank spring thaw. Now a bright arena and a fat wallet will remain only in the memories.

And the new prime minister of Ukraine is only the last, not very interesting, number.

“Everything that is happening in this country now speaks of how far Ukraine’s political elite is from the civilized world. Unfortunately, all our support is leveled by the greed and short-sightedness of the Ukrainian leadership, who are looking for preferences for themselves, but not for their long-suffering people. We need to do something with this, since this state of affairs cannot last for a long time. While Ukraine is being led by politicians who are extremely unpopular with the people, while we see the destruction and blockade of the inhabitants of our own territory not only in eastern Ukraine, but also in other regions of the state, while instead of vital reforms we observe outright chatter and populist statements by the Ukrainian establishment, Ukraine cannot be considered a civilized country. "

This statement is the one who fed "maydaunov" cookies. Yes, it was Victoria Nuland who dotted the i. In her interview with a Canadian journalist. Do not go for future American handouts Ukrainian "stomach". They sold the country not for a pound of tobacco.
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  1. The black
    The black 31 March 2016 07: 10
    +65
    Quite a little time will pass, and on the streets and in underground passages of Ukrainian cities there will be stumps in wheelchairs with signs “Give a disabled ATO”. They will be wearing a faded khaki uniform. Their every glance at passers-by will be filled with disappointment. They will understand that the state has thrown them specifically by assigning a meager pension, which is not enough even for medicines. They will curse the day when they believed the slogans of the "Ukrainian patriots" that they went to punish the Donbass. They will hate all those who sent them to the senseless slaughter of their own mother, father, brothers, sisters, etc. But so far they do not know about their fate and are bravely trying to "liberate Donbass from terrorists." No, stop for a second and remember what life is like for Chernobyls and Afghans in Ukraine ..., and indeed for disabled people and pensioners ... But ... the worst thing is that they also do not know that most of the inhabitants of the former Ukraine will simply spit in their faces
    1. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 31 March 2016 08: 00
      +33
      Yes, it was Victoria Nuland who dotted the i's in her interview to a Canadian journalist. American handouts to the Ukrainian "stomach" did not go for the future. We didn't sell the country for a pound of tobacco.

      "Well, how is that ?!" - the deceived Ukrainian Euro-optimist shouts - "Well, how is that ?! You brought us beads to the Maidan! We believed you! And you! And you!"
      "Well, beads!" - the European politician answers. - "And what, in fact, do you not like our beads? We once bought a whole Manhattan for such beads. And nothing. The natives there were very pleased. Who knew that glass beads did not suit you. You yourself agreed. We didn’t hide anything from you. After all, we gave you the agreement on the Association in advance so that you can familiarize yourself with it. And the fact that you didn’t want to read it, it’s not our problem. Now take it. What is, take it. And to us, if you please, your little land and everything that we have for restitution is supposed to. And you can give these beads to Lyashka. We know. He will not refuse. "
      1. cniza
        cniza 31 March 2016 08: 08
        +16
        They threw it up and threw it, or rather, they threw it to our doorstep ... here's a shit, rake it up and what will we do? After all, it stinks, does not give breathing, tears from the eyes ... while no answer is visible
        1. Darkmor
          Darkmor 31 March 2016 09: 28
          +26
          The state death bar is set by the state itself. Because all states are different, and created with different goals.
          Say, for the Russian Federation, death can occur when the state is unable to maintain power in the territory and protect it from external enemies. Because the core of the formation of the Russian Federation (or rather, RI is the successor of which we are), this is precisely the protection of the territory (after the Mongol-Tatar yoke) and the unification of different nations (scattered principalities).
          Therefore, even if the population of the Russian Federation lives very poorly - as long as there remains a strong power capable of protecting this population from some kind of external threat, the state will remain. The very USSR fell apart not from economic difficulties, as many believe - but because of the weakness and betrayal of power.

          And now back to our sheep, i.e. to Ukraine.
          In fact, Ukrainians can degrade to the level of a caveman, live on the ruins of nuclear power plants, feed on mutated potatoes, start a fire by rubbing boards - and you will not believe, they will sing "She is not dead." In THEIR consciousness, this will be enough to consider themselves a state.
          Well, what do you want from them? Historically, this territory passed from hand to hand - for them, external management is absolutely normal.
          This is not normal for the state - but why did we suddenly consider Ukraine to be a state?
    2. gergi
      gergi 31 March 2016 09: 09
      +23
      It is very likely that these stumps, anti-terrorist operation heroes will appear in our Russian crossings and on the porches of the Orthodox Church persecuted by them. In the open-air they will be given in the face, and there will be all-forgiven ones, they will feed this Nazi scum. They will eat from our hands and hate us even more.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 31 March 2016 09: 44
        +3
        It's a shame that there is no people and their power. There is always a "passionate group" that will impose its power and conditions on the majority by force or deception and end up "at the helm" ... for a long time, since this most sluggish majority will reach the "critical mass" for a very long time in order to expel them.
      2. HAM
        HAM 31 March 2016 09: 59
        +9
        ... In the open, they will be given in the face, ...

        Interesting, but in Kharkov they ALREADY give, and Zelensky ALREADY feed !!
    3. tolian
      tolian 31 March 2016 09: 54
      0
      Good.....
    4. SANAY
      SANAY 31 March 2016 14: 30
      +2
      Horror. Everyone in Russia talked about this back in 2012-2013. They warned: "Look! Play it out! You can't joke with the fate of your own people!" But they did not listen to the "cursed to her", played too much, shed blood. They shed theirs! The civil war was started to the delight of Western enemies! A complete disgrace! Who will clean up?
      1. Cap.Morgan
        Cap.Morgan 31 March 2016 21: 16
        +1
        Quote: SANAY
        Horror. Everyone in Russia talked about this back in 2012-2013. They warned: "Look! Play it out! You can't joke with the fate of your own people!" But they did not listen to the "cursed to her", played too much, shed blood. They shed theirs! The civil war was started to the delight of Western enemies! A complete disgrace! Who will clean up?

        In the TV program Russian House, journalist Krutov spoke about this 20 years ago! twenty!
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 April 1 2016 00: 23
          0
          Parasyuk, the bastard threw a bait about breaking off diplomatic relations with the Russian Federation, and allegedly the "vorogi" immediately threw a grenade into his tarantass ... There was no grenade, there was no car, the bastard regretted it, it was a firecracker:
          1. Cappit
            Cappit April 1 2016 04: 39
            0
            Do you give this comment to all articles or through one?
    5. Curious
      Curious April 2 2016 09: 01
      0
      They are "disabled" ATO have already appeared and will appear. But they will only curse Russia and the Russians.
  2. ydjin
    ydjin 31 March 2016 07: 19
    +20
    The puppy died and was terribly rotten. crying The foreigners danced to death to death! fool
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 March 2016 07: 23
    +8
    The collapse of the country has begun.

    Yeah, and it continues at an incredible speed! What ukrokakl does not like fast driving! laughing
    1. OlegV
      OlegV 31 March 2016 07: 55
      +33
      The collapse of the country has begun. The circus program goes to a logical ending.
      1. KOH
        KOH 31 March 2016 08: 49
        +3
        Well, thanks, I laughed ...))))
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  4. parusnik
    parusnik 31 March 2016 07: 23
    +24
    Russia does not comply with the instructions of Ukraine. Does not fall apart, does not "eat up" the last kopecks, does not whine on the outskirts of European and world forums about some kind of help.... And most importantly, it does not come to war ... Ukraine, just with the last bit of strength it fights against "Russian aggression" .. but Russia did not attack again ..
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 31 March 2016 07: 23
    +11
    The "strongmen" have already performed in Donbass. The "magicians" in the economy spoke. The "dog trainers" performed with the training of young people. The "clowns" took part in lawmaking.

    It can also be added that the "decoys" from the audience also spoke (the Baltic states, Poland, Canada ...). All that remains is to say goodbye and roll up the tent.
    1. gamer
      gamer 31 March 2016 07: 48
      +13
      laughing And everyone is waiting, when the bears come out and disperse this booth!
      1. Gennady Alexandrovich
        Gennady Alexandrovich 31 March 2016 13: 55
        0
        Until this booth is saturated with its independence and Svidomo, probably
  6. poma
    poma 31 March 2016 07: 33
    +6
    Good comparison with the circus.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 31 March 2016 08: 31
      +3
      Good comparison with the circus.


      With visiting clowns on tour in a mental hospital? wassat
    2. SANAY
      SANAY April 1 2016 06: 53
      0
      [quote = Baloo]Good comparison with the circus.


      With a traveling circus, where the troupe is drunk, the animals are shabby, the tent is peeled.
  7. Coronel76
    Coronel76 31 March 2016 07: 35
    +18
    Inspired!

    All covered with a crotch, absolutely all.
    There is an island of independence in the ocean.
    Unhappy savage Ukrainians live there.
    Free face, but slaves inside:
    It can be seen in the embroidered shirt that their mother gave birth.
    What they do not do is not going.
    They pray at Bandera, not sparing tears.
    Crocodile is over, does not insert coke.
    Like CE Europe and could live
    Embroider a new Lenin to sew.
    There is no light in the hut, no coal in the stove.
    On the Maidan, a hundred died in vain.
    Pa-pa-pa-pa-on this occasion from night to dawn
    Harness tires in Kiev savages Ukrainians
    On this occasion, from night to dawn.
    Jump and cry and curse Kylo
    On a day which Putin knows nothing.))

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    3. laogun
      laogun 31 March 2016 08: 33
      +16
      The song is good, but rewritten with errors, I can not help but fix it:
      All covered with a crotch, absolutely all.
      There is an island of independence in the ocean.
      Unhappy ukrodikari live there.
      Free face, but slaves inside:
      What they do not do is not going.
      It can be seen in the embroidered shirt that their mother gave birth.
      They pray at Bandera, not sparing tears.
      Crocodile is over, does not insert coke.
      Like CE Europe and could live
      Embroider a new Lenin to sew.
      There is no light in the hut, no coal in the stove.
      On the Maidan, a hundred died in vain.
      Pa-pa-pa-pa-on this occasion from night to dawn
      Harness tires in Kiev ukrodikari,
      They jump and cry and curse "Kuylo"
      On a day which is unknown to the maskals in spite.))
    4. Tusv
      Tusv 31 March 2016 10: 04
      +2
      Quote: Coronel76
      Inspired!

      I remembered
      Quote: Back in USSR

      Well, the Ukraine girls really knock me out,
      They leave the West behind.
      And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
      That Georgia's always on my mind.

      But do not we tell you this:
      Recognize that Outskirts are the Mother of Russian cities.
      To fall at the feet of the Kiev government and cry bitterly, saying This is all Putin, then hold elections and 90 percent of the votes choose Putin.
      They are the children of stupid behavior on such an insidious plan
      1. Camel
        Camel 31 March 2016 22: 34
        0
        Yes you, my friend, have you started a multi-doorway? bully
  8. siberalt
    siberalt 31 March 2016 07: 37
    +5
    In the next regular peremoga. Finally, the damned prosecutor general was fired. So what has changed? laughing And yesterday, a grenade was thrown into Parasyuk’s car. Nothing to him, but the three others nearby suffered. Now they demand breaking off diplomatic relations with Russia. At least for a while. What's the trick? Circus, in a word.
  9. isker
    isker 31 March 2016 07: 43
    +19
    "The tragedy of the Ukrainian people is that today the power in the country belongs not to the government or the people."

    Nonsense!
    The tragedy is that the "Ukrainian people" are trying to build their own state !!!
    Just yesterday - when the "country" is deep ... and no one can see the way out of it, the FIRST question on the agenda in the Rada is "Transmission decommissioned helicopter MI-8 to the Museum of the Republic of Slovakia "...
    Moreover - the issue was discussed according to the full procedure - the speakers were recorded, at the rate of two - "for", two - "against" ... As a result, the question was voted FIVE times before being approved and lost half an hour of time!
    Anyone who thinks that this "Ukrainian people" is worthy of something more than a farm with a vegetable garden is just a dreamer.
  10. Egoza
    Egoza 31 March 2016 07: 46
    +15
    Come on you! We have progress and partner support!
    ... EU proposal to release dog collars to one of the leaders in Soviet rocket science, Yuzhmash. And more recently, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine proudly reported that the shipbuilding plant them. 61 of the commune and Nikolaev shipbuilding plant "Ocean" managed to master the production of bourgeois for participants in the punitive operation in the Donbass. In the literal sense of the word - sailed.

    http://voicesevas.cdnvideo.ru
    /img/7a3d47c3551c268d43569fd7343ec084.jpg
    1. domokl
      domokl 31 March 2016 07: 55
      +6
      laughing Greetings Elena! Ay yay yay .. An adult, educated woman, and such a viper love And the new letaki? The truth was annealed with another overlay .. Letaki then the Russian MIGs ...
  11. Masya masya
    Masya masya 31 March 2016 07: 53
    +12
    "I think that Payette will remain prime minister (concurrently president and foreign minister), Christine Lagarde, finance minister and head of the National Bank, Victoria Nuland, speaker of parliament, Monsanto representative of the agro-industrial complex, representative of fuel and energy," Westinghouse, "Bondarenko wrote on his Facebook page.
    Therefore, he noted that "one should not expect real personnel changes."
    "As for Yatsenyuk, Yaresko ... Who is this?" - concluded the political scientist. "
    Nothing depends on ukrov ... They told me to dig in the silt, we must dig in with joyful zeal ...
  12. Wolka
    Wolka 31 March 2016 08: 08
    +4
    the people deserve the power that they choose, if they don’t choose it is no longer the people ...
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 31 March 2016 08: 09
    +3
    Something needs to be done with this, as this state of affairs cannot last long.
    Yes, you don’t have to do anything, and nobody asked you to get in there with cookies. Leave the opportunity to save the most drowning, you yourself do not know how to swim (as recent events have shown). Piled up, grieving softly, and who will clean, Neighbor?
  14. Scud
    Scud 31 March 2016 08: 10
    +8
    Dill is a stinking slop pit created by one’s own hands.
    It does not matter that the rulers are worthless.
    The trouble is that the people match them.
    People admire them, love to frenzy
    Buckwheat takes but votes on garlic-
    for those who speak sweeter and promise more.
    The serfs are not to blame; the stenchs themselves are to blame.
    Small, nondescript, gray
    worthy slaves of their masters.
    1. Borz
      Borz 31 March 2016 09: 07
      +2
      The ruins of dill statehood satisfied .....
  15. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 31 March 2016 08: 12
    +21
    The collapse of the country began. Circus program goes to the natural finale. Already made "strong men" in the Donbas. Speakers "magicians" in the economy. Performed "dog trainers" with the preparation of youth. Speech "clowns" in lawmaking.
  16. viscount
    viscount 31 March 2016 08: 12
    0
    Quote: Coronel76
    Inspired!

    All covered with a crotch, absolutely all.
    There is an island of independence in the ocean.
    Unhappy savage Ukrainians live there.
    Free face, but slaves inside:
    It can be seen in the embroidered shirt that their mother gave birth.
    What they do not do is not going.
    They pray at Bandera, not sparing tears.
    Crocodile is over, does not insert coke.
    Like CE Europe and could live
    Embroider a new Lenin to sew.
    There is no light in the hut, no coal in the stove.
    On the Maidan, a hundred died in vain.
    Pa-pa-pa-pa-on this occasion from night to dawn
    Harness tires in Kiev savages Ukrainians
    On this occasion, from night to dawn.
    Jump and cry and curse Kylo
    On a day which Putin knows nothing.))

    Author unknown!


    "Ukrainians-savages" do not rhyme and not quite right! All Ukrainians are not one size fits all !!!

    But if: "KAKLI-WILD!" The very thing! In general, the test!
    1. laogun
      laogun 31 March 2016 08: 38
      0
      Not - better "ukrodikari".
      And the last two lines:
      They jump and cry and curse "Kuylo"
      On a day which is unknown to the maskals in spite.))
  17. Kenneth
    Kenneth 31 March 2016 08: 16
    -3
    An interesting pattern. The worse we have, the more talk of Schenevmerla. But it’s somehow violet for me in Ukraine - let it be in the news in the miscellaneous section, between the birth of albino cubs and the flood in central Australia
    1. tolian
      tolian 31 March 2016 10: 08
      +2
      And what about those who "are not worse off here"? For example, I see that we are getting better and better with the introduction of "sanctions". Even interesting.
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 31 March 2016 13: 01
        0
        What's better. Maybe prices are lower or production has risen. Or maybe a salary. Oh yes - they started moving with import substitution. And a lot of the way replaced? It’s just what they used to buy from some capitalists, now we only buy from others more expensive and worse quality. And also - where they were before, when this substitution could be done much more calmly and without storming.
        1. Camel
          Camel 31 March 2016 22: 44
          +1
          Oh yes - they started moving with import substitution. And a lot of the way replaced? It’s just what they used to buy from some capitalists, now we only buy from others more expensive and worse quality. And also - where they were before, when this substitution could be done much more calmly and without storming.


          Could have done it before, Your truth, we just didn’t want to (not we buyers, but manufacturers and sellers). And now they have nowhere to go, if you want to re-stick the stickers, if you want to set up your own production, they just beat the stickers on the head for the stickers, and iron on the production. So, you look in a couple of years and the Belarusian shrimp will disappear, and they will strain the producers. Nothing is done quickly, well, except for fleas. And our people will be able to tolerate, apparently, the government is also hoping for it. It is terrible that 17 years are ahead - the people may not be able to tolerate. angry
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  18. Cananecat
    Cananecat 31 March 2016 08: 24
    +7
    Quote: Black
    they don’t know that most of the inhabitants of the former Ukraine will just spit in their faces

    Strongly hi
  19. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 31 March 2016 08: 52
    +2
    Ukraine was strong only as part of the Russian Empire (or USSR).
    But she decided to move to free swimming.
    I made a mistake. Nobody expects her with open arms. All countries have enough problems.
    To weaken Russia by secession of Ukraine is also not very successful. On the contrary, our country began to regain territory ...
    So this project is already starting to close.
    The main thing in this process is to save your face. But how - until they came up with.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 31 March 2016 18: 42
      +4
      Quote: Pvi1206
      Ukraine was strong only as part of the Russian Empire (or the USSR). But it decided to move to free swimming.
  20. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 31 March 2016 08: 59
    +18
    the whole point in one picture!
  21. atamankko
    atamankko 31 March 2016 09: 01
    +1
    So much for the hut to you, the crest did not sit out, it seems.
  22. Senior manager
    Senior manager 31 March 2016 09: 41
    +1
    I want to lure - only in five years the people will mainly come to the realization of what happened. Why is this figure. For some serious undertaking, there is a time limit for achieving concrete results. With the desire to achieve a result, it takes about three years, and in this neglected case, I give five years.
  23. sgr291158
    sgr291158 31 March 2016 09: 48
    +1
    What they wanted, they got it. We look forward to continuing.
  24. antiexpert
    antiexpert 31 March 2016 10: 00
    +1
    interestingly, very interestingly this is what: due to what now is the undesirable?
    Does the US give a living?
  25. demo
    demo 31 March 2016 11: 37
    +1
    Both candidates for prime ministers of Ukraine did not even deign to tell the people about their vision of overcoming the crisis. What for? People believe the word! He said (a) will bring, then I will bring!

    Let's decide.
    Faith is the recognition of something true without a preliminary factual or logical verification, solely by virtue of an internal, subjective immutable conviction, which does not need evidence to justify itself, although it sometimes searches for it.
    Faith is due to the characteristics of the human psyche. Unconditionally accepted information, texts, phenomena, events or your own ideas and conclusions in the future can serve as the basis for self-identification, determine some of the actions, judgments, norms of behavior and relationships.

    That's how it is.
    We Russians believe in one thing. and Ukrainians in another.
    And the more violently they attack our or their faith, the stronger the faith becomes.
  26. Alex_T
    Alex_T 31 March 2016 13: 04
    +3
    The other day I was looking for information on homemade solid fuel heating systems. An interesting pattern, most of the links and news on this topic are Ukrainian.
  27. Mercenary
    Mercenary 31 March 2016 13: 16
    0
    Not a good comparison of Ukraine with crucian carp (the most tenacious fish of our reservoirs, it can bury itself in silt and winter in it when the reservoir freezes to the bottom) And in other things ... judging by the estimates of our "luminaries" analysts, Ukraine should have given "oak" once 8-10 or just stupidly freeze and WHAT?
    1. Camel
      Camel 31 March 2016 22: 52
      0
      Quote: Mercenary
      Not a good comparison of Ukraine with crucian carp (Ukraine should have given oak already 8-10 times or just stupidly freeze and WHAT?


      Nothing! As long as the "analysts" proceed from everyday logic - "did not pay, did not receive gas", and not from ATTENTION PAPHOS! geopolitical considerations, the same thing will happen - we will be thrown off by the govnom, and the h.hokh.ly survive.
  28. Megatron
    Megatron 31 March 2016 13: 26
    +1
    Something they fall apart for a long time, but they still can not fall apart.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 31 March 2016 21: 20
      +1
      Quote: Megatron
      Something they fall apart for a long time, but they still can not fall apart.

      The process of critical mass growth. At some point, the quantity will go into quality. And ... boom!
      1. domokl
        domokl April 1 2016 17: 19
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        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        The process of critical mass growth. AT

        Ento .. a learned person however .. respect. We have never heard such words ...
        So, if I understood correctly, it’s like in a restroom .. We go, then we go there .. then once ... a critical mass ... Come in and it is there ... wandering and stinking? laughing
  29. Chulman
    Chulman 31 March 2016 14: 00
    +3
    Quote: Black
    Quite a little time will pass, and on the streets and in underground passages of Ukrainian cities there will be stumps in wheelchairs with signs “Give a disabled ATO”. They will be wearing a faded khaki uniform. Their every glance at passers-by will be filled with disappointment. They will understand that the state has thrown them specifically by assigning a meager pension, which is not enough even for medicines. They will curse the day when they believed the slogans of the "Ukrainian patriots" that they went to punish the Donbass. They will hate all those who sent them to the senseless slaughter of their own mother, father, brothers, sisters, etc. But so far they do not know about their fate and are bravely trying to "liberate Donbass from terrorists." No, stop for a second and remember what life is like for Chernobyls and Afghans in Ukraine ..., and indeed for disabled people and pensioners ... But ... the worst thing is that they also do not know that most of the inhabitants of the former Ukraine will simply spit in their faces

    The words are correct! But in your prophecies, I do not just doubt, but I consider them stupidity. These raguli will never understand any of the above. They are as stubborn as we are - quilted jackets (in the good sense of the word). After all, we believe in our Great Russia, that's how they believe in their 'greatest' feature! Everyone believes in his own, only our fate is different. Because their Bandera-fascist essence has always lived in their greedy and filthy "darlings" !!!!!!! Because their "gosudarstvo" was molded from the stinking shit by those who shit against Russia all their lives !!!!!!!!!!
    I always said that he who wanted to resist, rebelled against these reptiles, and I do not mind the rest!
    BATTERY! FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!
  30. Chulman
    Chulman 31 March 2016 14: 15
    +1
    Quote: scud
    Dill is a stinking slop pit created by one’s own hands.
    It does not matter that the rulers are worthless.
    The trouble is that the people match them.
    People admire them, love to frenzy
    Buckwheat takes but votes on garlic-
    for those who speak sweeter and promise more.
    The serfs are not to blame; the stenchs themselves are to blame.
    Small, nondescript, gray
    worthy slaves of their masters.

    Wai fur! As HARASHO said, MALADETS !!! laughing
  31. skeptic
    skeptic 31 March 2016 14: 26
    +2
    The illusion called "urkaina" is based on nationalist slogans.
    But the people there are rotten and impatient.
    Turnips will scratch and selflessly will jump under any
    other slogans
    if only free money and benefits loomed.
  32. Ispitatel
    Ispitatel 31 March 2016 15: 47
    +3
    And where are the people? For a long time already the people in Russia and Ukraine turned into a herd of their majority. A flock of what you need - TV. And on TV they show everything inside out what kind of Russians are bad, they ruined all plans to raise the state, they stole money, now they don’t want to give gas either. Whatever happens, the majority will blame Russia, and, therefore, support the government while they s * t in ears. But wait, what is happening in our homeland? Pensions are such that there is not enough for medicine, the prices for all are crazy, for working pensioners - do not pay. The roads were what they are. Education .. Medicine .. Salaries of doctors and teachers .. In general, what to talk about, we also have a damn thing. But our devil is stable, we are used to it. This is the strength of the Russian people — we have overcome difficulties all our lives.
  33. natakor1949
    natakor1949 31 March 2016 16: 19
    0
    "... but not for his long-suffering people ... - this is not a people, this is a stupid, brainless herd", this marginal nuland is a thousand times right, who helped create this situation, and now turns her nose away from them. After this "people" did not stand up to protect their children in Odessa, I despise this nation - although they are my relatives. And they will live in this hell for as long as they will not wash away their sin and blood from their hands for their murdered brothers and sisters.
  34. sery volk
    sery volk 31 March 2016 16: 38
    +1
    my hut from the edge - I don’t know anything, here’s the main guide to life in Ukraine, from my own experience I know that they will betray two fingers on asphalt. Not all of course, but basically it is
  35. stonks
    stonks 31 March 2016 18: 50
    0
    A long quote from Vicky Nuland: "Everything that is happening in this country now speaks of how far the political elite of Ukraine is still from the civilized world. Unfortunately, all our support is leveled by the greed and shortsightedness of the Ukrainian leadership, who are looking for preferences for themselves personally. but not for our long-suffering people. We need to do something about this, since this state of affairs cannot last long. While Ukraine is ruled by politicians who are extremely unpopular among the people, while we see the destruction and blockade of the inhabitants of our own territory not only in eastern Ukraine, but in other regions of the state as well, as long as instead of vital reforms we observe outright chatter and populist statements of the Ukrainian establishment, Ukraine cannot be considered a civilized country. "

    Well said Vichka. But she did not say a few things:
    1. Do states support such a regime? (rhetorical question)
    2. Where to get the "popular among the people" politicians? There are none.
    3. If there are such "popular" ones, what should they do to get the country out of this ass?
    4. Where will the States fuse those who are now at the helm?

    Yes, many more questions arise from this quote ...
  36. Balagan
    Balagan 31 March 2016 19: 02
    0
    For some reason, less and less desire to read about Outskirts ...
  37. Weyland
    Weyland 31 March 2016 22: 30
    0
    What can I say ... There are no smart Ukrainians - for the simple reason that "when a Ukrainian gets smarter, he becomes Russian"(L.N. Gumilyov)
  38. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 31 March 2016 23: 46
    0
    Ukrainian fools will not understand that Ukraine WHOLE NEEDS ANYONE, it is too big and heterogeneous. Neither west nor east. They already and OPEN TEXT even Americans (!) Say FEDERALIZATION! And they all jump and jump around "Glory to Ukraine". Now the goal of both the Russians and the p.i.d.d.so.so.v and the heroes is to bring the country to the arrival of OUTDOOR Fascists to power, or to the state of Syria, and then by JOINT (!) Efforts to occupy it, under the pretext of struggle with fascism or terrorism no matter what pretext. Everyone will take their piece. Psheki Volyn. Romania will have the Westerners of Galicia. Russia will annex the entire left bank and plus Odessa. Well, what remains will go under Geyropu. Then everyone will quickly cut out the complete thugs and improve the life of the population, each in his sector, but already as part of his territory.
  39. Calter
    Calter April 1 2016 02: 23
    +1
    Quote: Oles
    The collapse of the country has begun. The circus program goes to a logical ending.
    So we are kind of falling apart since 2014, but still nothing. And what is the author's interesting logical ending?

    Since 2014, they talk about the collapse of the economy and the degradation of public life. And this article is about statehood. The logical ending is when ukraim bones even comedian political observers cease to wash over.
    1. domokl
      domokl April 1 2016 17: 22
      0
      drinks Short and capacious ...