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Air combat vehicle: a new Russian aircraft (Mako, Israel)

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This aircraft is equipped with the latest target detection systems, it sends data directly to the pilot’s helmet, is able to intercept and even attack in cyberspace. MiG-35, the new Russian aircraft, will soon begin to perform test flights, and we should pay attention to it.

The Ministry of Defense and the Russian Armed Forces have received a prototype of a new combat aircraft, and test flights will begin in the near future. We Israelis are used to hearing mainly Western armory new products, but recently the Russian arms market has risen to several levels and showed the world some very interesting samples. One of the crown jewels is the MiG-35. Initially, he was supposed to fight for a tender announced by the Indian Air Force, but in the end it was decided to take him into service in Russia, and soon we will see him very close to our borders - as part of the Egyptian military aviation.

Sergei Korotkov, General Director of RAC MiG OJSC, said that in the near future the aircraft will be transferred to the Ministry of Defense for preliminary tests. He did not explain exactly how many aircraft are currently released. “We have completed the first stage of this work - a draft technical project. He is protected and accepted by the Ministry of Defense, ”said Korotkov. Earlier, the general director said that the aircraft will go into service with the Russian Air Force and the Egyptian Air Force in 2018-2020.

This is a new advanced aircraft of the so-called 4,5 generation. It is comparable with modern models F-15, F-16 and F-18. Without a doubt, the aircraft became the pride of Russian industry. It is equipped with two engines, is available in two versions - one and two pilots. In terms of dry data, its flight range is 2 000 kilometers, it develops speed 2 400 kilometers per hour, the maximum height is more than 17 kilometers, climb speed - 300 meters per second.

Able to attack in cyberspace

Under the wings of the aircraft there are 18 suspensions. You can attach removable fuel tanks, a variety of missiles "air-to-air", "air-to-ground" and "smart" bombs. The Russians say that the maneuverability of the aircraft is very impressive and surpasses its Western counterparts. According to them, the MiG-35 is able to cope with stealth-built aircraft. Fans of aircraft and weapons in general will appreciate the smooth outlines of this beautiful bird, different from the rough lines of old models.

The main highlight of the new aircraft was a unique optical radar station OLS, capable of recognizing different targets in the air and on the ground, including using the definition of the thermal trace of targets. The data immediately enter the pilot's helmet. The radius of the system, according to data provided by the Russian side, is very impressive - it is able to notice the target at a distance of 45 kilometers, and to identify it from a distance of more than ten kilometers. There is no data on the recognition of ground targets, since it depends on the terrain and on the size of the target. At the same time, the Russian side claims that in this case the distance is very significant. In addition, the Russians claim that it is impossible to detect with MiG-35 passive means, which gives it a great advantage.

In addition, the aircraft is equipped with a system that helps to neutralize the threat of air defense, as well as protect the MiG from cybernetic attacks. Moreover, the Russians say that the aircraft is able to carry out cyber attacks and incapacitate enemy systems. Most of the data on the aircraft is classified, but we Israelis should pay attention to the Russian weapons news, because sooner or later they will get into our region.
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  1. sir_obs
    sir_obs 31 March 2016 16: 09
    +14
    The wind under the wings! And so that the number of take-offs is always equal to the number of landings!
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 14
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      Aerial combat vehicle: new Russian aircraft

      My attitude to Mig-35 is not so hot. In terms of glider, nothing new is the same 4.0 generation. The troops already have Su-30СМ and Su-35С, which surpass it in combat capabilities. It's my personal opinion.
      1. dauria
        dauria 31 March 2016 16: 19
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        The troops already have the Su-30SM and Su-35S, which surpass it in combat capabilities.


        Well, here, probably, we went along the path "from a black sheep at least a tuft of wool." The old production facilities were loaded. Do not throw it away.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 22
          -4
          Quote: dauria
          Well, here, probably, we went along the path "from a black sheep at least a tuft of wool." The old production facilities were loaded. Do not throw it away.

          Well, I think this device is sharpened for export. And locked with all the necessary bookmarks lol In order to execute off Line at a given moment of the battle without any missiles /
        2. Wolverine
          Wolverine 31 March 2016 16: 49
          +15
          Here I do not agree, the MIG-35 was undeservedly pushed back due to friction of the internal clans for the development of budget money. The plane is excellent, you just need to give everyone the opportunity to earn and develop ...
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 31 March 2016 16: 54
            +2
            Quote: Wolverine
            Here I do not agree, MIG-35 was undeservedly pushed

            The era of MFIs of the next generation is already underway. Why rivet fighters knowing that they do not reach the 5th generation? In addition, the 35th is "raw" and not really brought to mind. As a laboratory, yes, it is needed, but as a serial machine , he was 20 years late.
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 31 March 2016 17: 09
              +24
              Quote: NEXUS
              Quote: Wolverine
              Here I do not agree, MIG-35 was undeservedly pushed

              The era of MFIs of the next generation is already underway. Why rivet fighters knowing that they do not reach the 5th generation? In addition, the 35th is "raw" and not really brought to mind. As a laboratory, yes, it is needed, but as a serial machine , he was 20 years late.


              You are somewhat ahead of events. PAK FA still has to complete the tests, then it should be mastered in production, and only then it will be put in the troops. And in what quantities? Units? Will these units be able to replace the entire aging fleet of Russian fighters? Apparently not. So without Su-35 and MiG-35 is not enough. And abroad, 5th generation fighters are quite few. So the 4 ++ generation is still awesome for us.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS April 1 2016 10: 52
                +1
                Quote: 1976AG
                You are somewhat ahead of events. PAK FA still has to complete the tests, then it should be mastered in production, and only then it will be put in the troops. And in what quantities? Units?

                I’m not ahead of the event, but I’m saying what is being announced. Until PAK FA goes with the engine of the first stage, and by the year 18 they will finish testing the engine of the second stage. It’s too early to say about the quantity, because the exact price of the T-50 is not known.
                Quote: 1976AG
                Apparently not. So without Su-35 and MiG-35 is not enough.

                The Su-35S is undeniably needed. So the cheaper version of the PAK FA. But the MIG-35 was late. It can’t be called an LFI, but rather an average fighter, so to speak. Moreover, its range, ceiling, arsenal is worse than that of dryers. our videoconferencing another MFI with obviously worse performance characteristics than the SU-30 and 35? Have our MO got extra money?
                We need a light machine: maneuverable, high-speed, a real front-line fighter. I speak of such an LFI.
            2. GSH-18
              GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 16
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              Quote: NEXUS
              The era of MFIs of the next generation is already underway. Why rivet fighters knowing that they do not reach the 5th generation? In addition, the 35th is "raw" and not really brought to mind. As a laboratory, yes, it is needed, but as a serial machine , he was 20 years late.

              Totally agree with you! +
            3. Oleg14774
              Oleg14774 31 March 2016 18: 09
              +16
              Quote: NEXUS
              In addition, the 35th "raw" and not really brought to mind

              But where does such data come from? Or to blurt out? He will have a better glider from f-22 and f35 combined, avionics will change and this is said, increased fuel efficiency, and what gives him a reason to blame? Or do you need something new, but new?
            4. Oleg16661
              Oleg16661 31 March 2016 20: 21
              +12
              IMHO
              Aircraft of the 5th generation in the next 30 years will play the role of "special forces in aviation". God forbid, of course, but the main role in the battles of battles will be played by aircraft of the 4th generation. And precisely because of the limitations imposed by the so-called "stealth". Not only is it not absolute and only reduces the probability of detecting an aircraft at a certain point in time and is too expensive for mass production, it also imposes too many restrictions on the production of the aircraft itself. It is necessary to develop special. weapons and equipment for them.
              With all this, 4th generation aircraft, not burdened with stealth, for example, are much cheaper to manufacture and maintain, and most importantly, their production technology has already been worked out. In the course of modernization, they can be gradually equipped with 5th generation aircraft assemblies (Su-35 as an example) in order to at least one-on-one, but in a bundle of two or three 4th generation aircraft, confidently "land" at least one 5th generation aircraft. And such an exchange will be in favor of those who will be able to quickly restore the fleet of 4th generation aircraft, and not the 5th, respectively, maintaining the advantage in the number of aircraft on their side.
            5. Lex.
              Lex. 31 March 2016 20: 30
              +5
              same, the 35th is "raw" and not really brought to mind. As a laboratory, yes, it is needed, but as a production car, it was 20 years late. They will bring it to mind and fly a bird and that it’s late by 20 years is in vain. every country can afford and not everyone will sell them
          2. GSH-18
            GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 59
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            Quote: Wolverine
            MIG-35 undeservedly pushed due to internal friction clans for the development of budget money

            Ltd! Yes you are a kanspirologist!
          3. Nik_One
            Nik_One 31 March 2016 17: 01
            -9
            Quote: Wolverine
            it is necessary to give everyone the opportunity to earn and develop

            This is a true statement, it is necessary to develop, and there is where. But at the same time, you do not need to step on the old rake a la MBT T-64,72,80 ..
            MiG-35, born of a decade and still not born, is no better than Su, who have already shown themselves in combat units.
            If all this is done for export, then of course it is right.
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 31 March 2016 18: 01
              -3
              Quote: Nik_One
              But at the same time, you do not need to step on the old rake a la MBT T-64,72,80 ..

              Nothing drives progress like competition. Moreover, there is no way (and thank God) to test the machines in a real battle. The experience of using Soviet weapons by the Arabs is not entirely indicative. The presence of several tank, in this case, the design bureau is more a matter of pride than a "rake". An example of an adversary with an abrashka should be a science, including us. And the result of the oversaturation of the European market with cars is very noticeable to everyone.
              Regarding aircraft, the Mig and Su are different machines in terms of price, purpose, and, accordingly, in terms of characteristics. And if the MiG is supposed to work confidently on "stealth" and the entire line of the base of the Air Force of a potential enemy, then it has the right to life.
              1. Nik_One
                Nik_One 31 March 2016 18: 48
                -4
                Quote: ARES623
                Nothing drives progress like competition

                Without doubt! Competition should be, but only at the design stage, before the introduction of technology in production and adoption. Otherwise, it is irrational.
                Quote: ARES623
                The presence of several tank, in this case, KB is rather a matter of pride

                Excuse me, but what should be the pride here? In the possibility of squandering public funds? In complicating the maintenance of heterogeneous equipment in the troops?
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 April 1 2016 08: 39
                  +2
                  Quote: Nik_One
                  Excuse me, but what should be the pride here? In the possibility of squandering public funds? In complicating the maintenance of heterogeneous equipment in the troops?

                  Pride manifests itself in an inner awareness of the righteousness and wisdom of one's work. If the USSR had relied on one tank design bureau, then in WWII we would have ended up without KV and the entire line up to ISs inclusive, and without the developed Tagil of the RF Armed Forces, we would have been without tanks and self-propelled artillery systems after Ukraine left. Look short-sightedly. As for the competition of projects, I don't want to offend you, but you are obviously not a production worker and do not see the difference between a PC screen and a real machine. "Iron" loves affection, paper will endure everything. And the fact that there is no love and "kisses on the gums" between the designers is nothing new. The fact that Poghosyan had the opportunity to single-handedly cut the budget at his own discretion, just confirms the destructive views of the top management, who relied on one design bank.
        3. Botanologist
          Botanologist 31 March 2016 19: 44
          +8
          Quote: dauria
          with a black sheep, even a tuft of wool


          DO NOT write nonsense. While dad Poghosyan was sitting in the KLA, Mig didn’t shine at all, because only his own were allowed to the dough. But the plant did not die (which some dreamed of), but worked, albeit without those billions of budget funds, like Sukhoi. And makes airplanes!
          And according to the now fashionable "generations" - the MiG is a "front-line soldier", its task is to take off, find and destroy, mainly in its own air defense zone. I think the MiG line will continue, and in addition to Su's ideology, we need a different ideology, stealth or not, but this will allow the user to understand where to go next. hi
      2. pavelty
        pavelty 31 March 2016 16: 20
        +15
        These aircraft have different tasks.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 24
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          Quote: pavlentiy
          These aircraft have different tasks.

          Why do you think so??? Su-30SM and Su-35S are multi-purpose super-maneuverable fighters. And the 35th blinker, what do you think?
          1. pavelty
            pavelty 31 March 2016 16: 32
            +5
            Apparently, the MiG-35 is supposedly imprisoned more to conduct direct air combat, and Su, among other things, and for striking at ground targets, this is purely my opinion. It is necessary to study the tactics of the Air Force)
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 39
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              Quote: pavlentiy
              Apparently, the MiG-35 is supposedly imprisoned more to conduct direct air combat, and Su, among other things, and for striking at ground targets, this is purely my opinion. It is necessary to study the tactics of the Air Force)

              Nothing of the kind. Just flashers want to get a government order. And there are no new ideas besides the ancient glider MIG-29, especially in metal, no request ! So they launched a PR company. Think about it, why do we need a light fighter, when they abandoned this concept, and pass to the 5th generation?
              Traditionally, they are good at highly specialized aircraft (long arm of air defense) MiG-31, so let them rivet. Multifunctional fighters, the palm of the Sukhoi Design Bureau is undeniable. At this economic moment, such "competition" between design bureaus is unacceptable.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 31 March 2016 16: 43
                +1
                Quote: GSH-18
                And there are no new ideas besides the ancient glider MIG-29, especially in metal, no

                With what fright is it? At the stage of development, the PAK DP is to replace the MIG-31 and LFI of the 5th generation. And the MIG-35 is more like a laboratory for testing technologies. And it is in the ONLY copy (no series).
                1. GSH-18
                  GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 52
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                  Quote: NEXUS
                  LFI 5 generation.

                  Dear NEXUS, and who needs LFI now ??? This concept has long commanded a long life. Why do you think the pluses are painted on the 4.0 Su generation?
                  This year, the first T-50s enter the army. And that's it.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 31 March 2016 17: 00
                    +9
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    This concept has long commanded a long life.

                    Yah? laughing The concept of a fighter pair will be relevant until they create a truly universal platform, which neither of us nor the mattresses have today. Amer Raptor and Lightning, we have PAK FA and God forbid, Mikoyan residents will create a good LFI. it’s impossible to create a universal platform so that it functions equally well both as a fighter and a bomber and an interceptor and an attack aircraft. Unfortunately, the technology has not grown yet, and therefore the concept of the fighter pair, and separately the interceptors, attack aircraft, will all be different machines.
                    1. GSH-18
                      GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 14
                      -8
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      The concept of a fighter pair will be relevant until they create a truly universal platform, which neither we nor mattresses currently have.

                      Not to notice the presence of the F-22 and F-35 (three! Modifications) in the Air Force and our T-50 is at least surprising. Where the world front-line aviation is moving is understandable. It’s not clear why they are trying to bring us back to generation 4.0 using the KB Mig PR company. Do they have a crisis of ideas? Or stupidly not enough money?
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 31 March 2016 17: 17
                        +2
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Not to notice the presence of the F-22 and F-35 (three! Modifications) in the Air Force and our T-50 is at least surprising. Where the world front-line aviation is moving is understandable. It’s not clear why they are trying to bring us back to generation 4.0 using the KB Mig PR company. Do they have a crisis of ideas? Or stupidly not enough money?

                        In 15, the MIG Design Bureau proactively began development of the 5th generation LFI, raising the documentation for MIG-1.44, well, I think for the PAK FA. (This is now one concern). In this case, the development of the long-range hypersonic interceptor PAK DP or MIG-41 ... what kind of crisis of ideas are you talking about?
                      2. GSH-18
                        GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 36
                        -6
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        The MIG Design Bureau proactively began in 15 to develop a 5th generation LFI, raising documentation on MIG-1.44,

                        Dear NEXUS, it’s clear that the migrarians are engaged in forgery, but why are you writing this here? 1.44 OUT OF DATE
                        Shaya layout "Duck" which was abandoned back in the 90s !!! It's not even funny anymore, and smacks of sabotage. The very phrase LFI of the 5th generation is complete idiocy. The 5th generation DOES NOT ASSUME any division of a frontline fighter. On the contrary! 5th generation is the unification of ALL capabilities and requirements in ONE machine. Please understand this.
                      3. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 31 March 2016 17: 47
                        +6
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Dear NEXUS, it’s clear that the migrarians are engaged in forgery, but why are you writing this here? 1.44 OUT OF DATE
                        Shaya layout "Duck" which was abandoned back in the 90s !!!

                        Did I really say that a 5th generation LFI will be with a glider like MIG-1.44? Where did you see it? I talked about developments on the 1.44th and not about the glider.
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        The very phrase LFI of the 5th generation is complete idiocy. The 5th generation DOES NOT ASSUME any division of a front-line fighter.

                        You tell our designers about it and the mattresses who have Raptor and Lightning. I repeat, DO NOT GET THERE UNTIL A UNIVERSAL PLATFORM! And therefore there will be a fighter couple, whether you like it or not.
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        On the contrary! The 5th generation is the unification of ALL capabilities and requirements in ONE machine. Understand this please.

                        You probably think that driving the same T-50 to the front line and escorting the bombers deep into the territory of the adversary is the same thing in terms of cost and efficiency ... The LFI is needed in order to fight precisely over the front line without letting anyone pass deep into our rear, because they are made lightweight, maneuverable and with a relatively short range compared to heavy IFIs. And for a breakthrough, escort of bombers and attack aircraft, heavy IFIs with a good range, ceiling, radar and arsenal are needed.
                      4. tomket
                        tomket 31 March 2016 18: 28
                        +7
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        OUT OF DATE
                        Shaya layout "Duck" which was abandoned back in the 90s !!!

                        The MiG-duck means it is outdated in the 90s, while the Raphael and EF-2000 are progressive and modern?))))
                      5. tomket
                        tomket 31 March 2016 18: 27
                        0
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        Where the world front-line aviation is moving is understandable.

                        And where is she going?
                    2. dauria
                      dauria 31 March 2016 18: 38
                      -2
                      The concept of a fighter pair will be relevant

                      Yes, she died, not having been born, this concept of light and heavy. On the F-18 and our MIG-29 died. F-18 even attached to the fleet, but where do we go?

                      The concept of an expensive twin-engine fighter and a cheap single-engine fighter-bomber (strike, according to theirs) under one!!!! (to reduce the cost) the engine type remained. Couples F-15 F-16, F-22 F-35

                      How are you going to reduce the cost of a twin-engine MIG? Due to the weight of aluminum? Well, he is small, this unsuccessful fighter. And even if it’s torn, neither the radius nor the armament will increase, nor the price reduce.
                    3. Winnie76
                      Winnie76 31 March 2016 19: 11
                      +2
                      5th generation LFI is utopia. One of the signs of the 5th generation is the internal deployment of weapons. Do you cram a lot of missiles inside a MIG-29-sized airframe, if a larger F 22 fits a maximum of 6 Aim 120?

                      That is, it turns out it will cost a little cheaper than T 50, and it will carry horseradish with gulkin. And the external suspension of weapons will instantly turn it into a 4+ generation due to the deterioration of stealth and cruising speed.
                      1. avia1991
                        avia1991 31 March 2016 21: 53
                        +3
                        Quote: Winnie76
                        That is, it turns out it will cost a little cheaper than T 50, and it will carry horseradish with gulkin.

                        Before scattering your speculations so impressively, maybe it’s worth clarifying the estimated costs of these machines? ..
                        And then, with specific numbers, make a comparison. hi
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          3. GSH-18
            GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 57
            -4
            Quote: GSH-18
            Quote: pavlentiy
            These aircraft have different tasks.

            Why do you think so??? Su-30SM and Su-35S are multi-purpose super-maneuverable fighters. And the 35th blinker, what do you think?

            Minus those who do not understand the difference. I explain: the fighter, no matter what is written on board, remains a fighter. So Mig and Su (fighter) militarily are no different. But if you choose the best from them, then this is the Su-30SM Su-35S and T-50. These planes will in the future represent our fighter aircraft. And what’s worse, we will sell abroad. And this is the correct military tactical approach. Do not believe? Follow the hand movement of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
            1. pavelty
              pavelty 31 March 2016 17: 02
              +2
              Well, how do they not differ ?? They have different performance characteristics, why can’t you understand that the RF Ministry of Defense can use (purchase) both aircraft? I also have to buy a T-50, another Tu-160, well, I don’t know there ... IL-76 are all planes of a different class and they have different tasks during military operations.
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            3. tomket
              tomket 31 March 2016 18: 33
              0
              Quote: GSH-18
              But if you choose the best from them, then this is Su-30СМ Su-35С and T-50.

              And which one is better?) Let's not forget about the Su-34, Su-27 SM and Su-30М2. Come on, tell us why such a need is stamped on almost the same aircraft, while pointing to the unnecessary MiG, which at least differs in size) Unlike the same type of Su.
            4. Botanologist
              Botanologist 31 March 2016 19: 56
              0
              Quote: GSH-18
              I explain: the fighter, no matter what is written on board, remains a fighter. So Mig and Su (fighter) militarily are no different.


              And which fighter? Interceptor, excellence, multi-functional or air defense ?. Will the bomber escort or the UAV drive at the border? Intercept the wing of an aircraft carrier or the Kyrgyz Republic?
              So it’s not just different, but quite ...
              1. GSH-18
                GSH-18 April 1 2016 08: 57
                0
                Quote: Botanologist
                And which fighter? Interceptor, excellence, multi-functional or air defense?

                It's about IFIs. The article at least. For this I do not specify.
        2. dauria
          dauria 31 March 2016 16: 27
          -7
          These aircraft have different tasks.


          There are one task, and the price is the same, but MiG’s capabilities let us down. laughing
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 31 March 2016 18: 00
            -4
            Quote: dauria
            These aircraft have different tasks.


            There are one task, and the price is the same, but MiG’s capabilities let us down. laughing

            That's the whole point. Trying to vparit 4.0 as something superlative. Well for Zimbabwe it will be cool lol I wish good luck to the migrant workers in selling their shaitan devices abroad.
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      4. vanavatny
        vanavatny 31 March 2016 16: 20
        +5
        Do you understand that these are different cars?
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 25
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          Quote: vanavate
          Do you understand that these are different cars?

          Of course. MIG is written on one and Su on the other.
          There are no other differences in use (Mig-35 VS Su-30, 35).
          1. vanavatny
            vanavatny 31 March 2016 16: 29
            +5
            Well, I don’t have time for you to write an entire article about heavy fighters and cheaper ones, about the difference in tasks and tools for solving them hi look for IN, everything is there, well, or at least google
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 35
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              Quote: vanavate
              Well, I don’t have time for you to write an entire article about heavy fighters and more cheap

              And why should our Air Force CHEAP fighter aircraft, inferior in their capabilities to the legendary modern Dryers, which, all the more! are already in service with us and their number is replenishing. And on the way the 5th generation of the T-50.
            2. KaPToC
              KaPToC 31 March 2016 16: 42
              +1
              It would make sense if the MiG-35 were really cheaper, but it is not.
          2. dauria
            dauria 31 March 2016 16: 29
            -1
            Of course. MIG is written on one and Su on the other.


            Eh, you shouldn’t be so .... laughing Here, many model women collect and Poghosyan do not like, and MiG is prettier.
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 04
              -2
              Su-35С
              Quote: dauria
              Of course. MIG is written on one and Su on the other.


              Eh, you shouldn’t be so .... laughing Here, many model women collect and do not like Poghosyan, but Instant prettier.

              I have the honor to disagree with you (although, in taste and color ...)
            2. GSH-18
              GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 07
              -2
              Quote: dauria
              Eh, it wasn’t worth it to you .... laughing. Many model girls gather here and don’t like Poghosyan ..

              It looks like lol
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 31 March 2016 16: 28
          +3
          Quote: vanavate
          Do you understand that these are different cars?

          MIG-35 is not an LFI, but an MFI, just like the SU-30SM ... but it loses both in the arsenal and in the range ... But the Zhuk radar has not really been brought to mind yet. And we need the 5th generation LFI .
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 April 1 2016 09: 17
            -2
            Quote: NEXUS
            And before we kill, we need exactly the 5th generation LFI.

            Who is it for us? I don’t need a lfi for nothing, and our Air Force does the same. And at least now you can buy a thread for yourself, unless of course the means allow lol
      5. Mixweb
        Mixweb 31 March 2016 16: 27
        +5
        Mig is very different from dryers. This is a completely different class. It is much lighter and more maneuverable. Essentially a clean interceptor.
        1. Venceremos
          Venceremos 31 March 2016 16: 29
          +4
          This aircraft is equipped with the latest target detection systems, transmits data immediately to the pilot’s helmet, is capable of intercepting and even attacking in cyberspace. MiG-35, the new Russian aircraft, will soon begin to perform test flights, and we should pay attention to him.


          Pay pay yes Even if it does not appear at your borders.
          Just for comparison, with the F-35 "soup set" that the US wants to get you in ...
        2. NEXUS
          NEXUS 31 March 2016 16: 34
          +1
          Quote: Mixweb
          Mig is very different from dryers. This is a completely different class. It is much lighter and more maneuverable. Essentially a clean interceptor.

          For interception, the PAK DP is being developed ... much faster, armed and with a large ceiling ... and for the near interception, the SU-35S is well suited, which will stick anyone into the ground, for which it was created. And PAK FA is on the way.
        3. leshiy076
          leshiy076 31 March 2016 17: 23
          +2

          The net interceptor is the MiG - 31
      6. maiman61
        maiman61 31 March 2016 17: 14
        +4
        If we have an Armata platform, it does not mean that we do not need an armored personnel carrier, MTLB, and BMP! After all, "Armata" is better! And you can refuse from "Tiger"!
        Light and cheap fighter needed like air!
        During the war, the German Tiger was better, but the T-34 was churned out several times more.
        1. Nik_One
          Nik_One 31 March 2016 17: 52
          +1
          Quote: maiman61
          Light and cheap fighter needed like air!
          During the war, the German Tiger was better, but the T-34 was churned out several times more.

          The fact of the matter is that the T-34 was cheaper and easier to manufacture.
        2. kuznec
          kuznec 31 March 2016 18: 02
          +1
          In case of war, the problem will be not only with airplanes, but also with pilots. Nowadays, an airplane can be built in a month (or even less), it takes years to train a pilot. Therefore, the number of pilots and aircraft must be correlated. And if there are 1000 high-class conventional planes per 500 high-class conditional pilots, it’s better to build 500 of these high-class planes rather than 2000 bad ones. Nobody will fly on them anyway.
      7. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 31 March 2016 17: 16
        0
        "Su", completely different machines ... Well, the class is different, and the tasks. And the oblique glider, the MiG-29, has better aerodynamics, the Germans said. The best, it means in general, among all, has not been better yet. The opinion may be subjective, but it is there.
      8. Lukich
        Lukich 31 March 2016 18: 11
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        which surpass him in combat capabilities. It's my personal opinion.

        but how is it known about its combat capabilities? come up with yourself? the car is not ready yet, but do you already know what it is capable of?
      9. Nick
        Nick 31 March 2016 21: 11
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        Aerial combat vehicle: new Russian aircraft

        My attitude to Mig-35 is not so hot. In terms of glider, nothing new is the same 4.0 generation. The troops already have Su-30СМ and Su-35С, which surpass it in combat capabilities. It's my personal opinion.

        Is it better to hammer nails with a sledgehammer or a hammer? Sledgehammer, as you know, has great shock capabilities, it has more iron, and it is more expensive. Each work needs its own tool.
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 31 March 2016 16: 33
      +9
      Well, thanks to the author for the praise, only now his compatriots on our site will say that the author is wrong. request
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 31 March 2016 16: 53
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      The wind under the wings! And so that the number of take-offs is always equal to the number of landings!

      In the words of Broiler 747 Commander - Nobody has remained in the air ...
    4. semenov3005
      semenov3005 31 March 2016 16: 53
      0
      Yes, if Israel showed interest it says a lot
      1. Nik_One
        Nik_One 31 March 2016 17: 07
        +1
        Naturally, Israel will show interest if there is the possibility of the appearance of this aircraft in Egypt.
    5. Blondy
      Blondy 31 March 2016 17: 01
      +1
      I look, moderators and admins (add yourself about mom) don't catch mice at all
      then the news about the CIA of February 9 yesterday or the day before yesterday was launched, then this material of March 25 only appeared today - was it difficult to copy-paste, or did the bureaucratic decision-making chain become too long?
      Gorgeous review of our MIG 35 from an Izriliv expert, I give a link
      http://inosmi.ru/military/20160325/235867043.html

      Aerial combat vehicle: new Russian aircraft
      This aircraft is equipped with the latest target detection systems, transmits data immediately to the pilot’s helmet, is capable of intercepting and even attacking in cyberspace. The MiG-35, the new Russian aircraft, will soon begin to perform test flights, and we should pay attention.
      1. marshes
        marshes 31 March 2016 17: 06
        0
        Quote: Blondy
        Gorgeous review of our MIG 35 from an Izriliv expert, I give a link
        http://inosmi.ru/military/20160325/235867043.html

        Aerial combat vehicle: new Russian aircraft
        This aircraft is equipped with the latest target detection systems, transmits data immediately to the pilot’s helmet, is capable of intercepting and even attacking in cyberspace. The MiG-35, the new Russian aircraft, will soon begin to perform test flights, and we should pay attention.

        But under this news.
        Original source http://www.mako.co.il/pzm-magazine/war-games/Article-58ee826243e9351006.htm?Part

        ner = rss
        Translation http://inosmi.ru/military/20160325/235867043.html

        This is it.
  2. AlexTires
    AlexTires 31 March 2016 16: 12
    -3
    It will not be funny if our pilots meet opponents on such a machine ... although we export above all ....
  3. igorek4515
    igorek4515 31 March 2016 16: 16
    +3
    The car is really good .. And very necessary in combat combat units ...
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 31 March 2016 16: 20
      0
      Quote: igorek4515
      The car is really good .. And very necessary in combat combat units ...

      Please explain why?
      And why is it better than the Su-30SM, and especially the Su-35S, which surpass this blinker in ALL parameters?
      1. semenov3005
        semenov3005 31 March 2016 16: 45
        0
        You absolutely do not understand in the combat system this is a front-line soldier, this is for working on the line, and all drying is for working behind
        1. Nik_One
          Nik_One 31 March 2016 17: 02
          0
          I'm afraid that you do not know the whole history of the birth of the Su-27 / MiG-29 ...
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 55
          -5
          Quote: semenov3005
          You absolutely do not understand in the combat system this is a front-line soldier, this is for working on the line, and all drying is for working behind

          You are held captive by air battle strategies of the past bearded generations. Now everyone is moving on to generation 5.
          1. Oleg16661
            Oleg16661 31 March 2016 19: 14
            -1
            At the moment, generation 5 is the rat planes in terms of their tactics (of those who are currently in service and mass-produced are F-22 and F-35). Arrived, "bit" and flew away. If found, then shot down. Our T-50 according to its characteristics is declared as something more, but let's see what happens at the output.
            In the event of a full-scale war, aircraft of the 4th generation will play a much larger role. They will be the "workhorses". What will the 5th generation send to storm the fortified area stuffed with air defense, electronic warfare and a disproportionately large number of 4th generation aircraft?
  4. demchuk.ig
    demchuk.ig 31 March 2016 16: 19
    +1
    Finally, we will see a new MiG in our videoconferencing system! But somehow it's unfair, all DRY and DRY! MiGs are also good!
    1. KaPToC
      KaPToC 31 March 2016 16: 45
      +2
      But what about unification?
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 44
      -3
      Quote: demchuk.ig
      DRYES AND DRYES!MiGs are good too!

      Than? Lack of modern technology?
      Until they stir up, even if the device of the 5th generation, interest in them is ZERO! Let them repair the old Soviet-era aircraft fleet. This is so far their main state task.
  5. An60
    An60 31 March 2016 16: 21
    +1
    What are the "chosen ones" interested in? Did you like the smooth lines or what the Egyptians will soon have? Everything is gone ... Arming yourself with the F-35 urgently!
    1. semenov3005
      semenov3005 31 March 2016 16: 50
      0
      And you tell me about f 35 interesting to read
  6. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 31 March 2016 16: 27
    +2
    Here the most trap is that the cost of the Mig35 is equal to the Su35. And the latter is more flexible in use. And earlier Mig was a front-line fighter, more massive than Sukhoi.
    1. semenov3005
      semenov3005 31 March 2016 16: 48
      -1
      So they themselves answered drying is not a front-line soldier and what to compare with, and where does the price here matter the main combat quality
  7. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 31 March 2016 16: 36
    +1
    It seems that the Israelis unwittingly make our fighter a good advertisement.
  8. cap
    cap 31 March 2016 16: 37
    0
    "Most of the data on the plane is classified, but we Israelis should pay attention to Russian weapons innovations, because sooner or later they will enter our region."

    Think correctly. Here follow the wise advice from the Military Review.

    Quote: An60
    What are the "chosen ones" interested in? Did you like the smooth lines or what the Egyptians will soon have? Everything is gone ... Arming yourself with the F-35 urgently!


    Or maybe you’ll think and buy it well? Although unlikely. The Americans, with the money allocated to Israel, are financing their producers. Lobbyists in the Senate will not give.
  9. Mixweb
    Mixweb 31 March 2016 16: 38
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Mixweb
    Mig is very different from dryers. This is a completely different class. It is much lighter and more maneuverable. Essentially a clean interceptor.

    For interception, the PAK DP is being developed ... much faster, armed and with a large ceiling ... and for the near interception, the SU-35S is well suited.

    PAK has not yet been brought to normal, and it is not known when it will be brought. And Mig is almost ready. In addition, the cost of Miga will be an order of magnitude lower.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 31 March 2016 16: 51
      +3
      Quote: Mixweb
      PAK has not yet been brought to normal, and it is not known when it will be brought. And Mig is almost ready. In addition, the cost of Miga will be an order of magnitude lower.

      PAK FA will join the army next year. And only a misunderstanding person can compare the MIG-35 with the T-50. On the 35th radar has not yet been brought to mind, the aircraft itself has been heavier, hence the range has been cut, the engines on the MIG-RD-33 , which was developed in 1968-1985. What can I say about this?
      And about the cost ... at the time of 11 years -45 million Baku.
  10. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 31 March 2016 16: 38
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Here the most trap is that the cost of the Mig35 is equal to the Su35. And the latter is more flexible in use. And earlier Mig was a front-line fighter, more massive than Sukhoi.

    Plus. Mig is a fighter, sharpened for front-line operations, and drying, so to speak, a long-range fighter.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 31 March 2016 16: 41
    0
    We'll find out soon. The 35th is good, and with the 35th Su it is not comparable in price. Generally speaking, the real value of the contract - and its nuances - is a great military secret (because it is commercial). Any information on this topic from people who did not hold contracts in their hands is not worth the paper on which it is written.
  12. Raven2705
    Raven2705 31 March 2016 16: 42
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    Here the most trap is that the cost of the Mig35 is equal to the Su35. And the latter is more flexible in use. And earlier Mig was a front-line fighter, more massive than Sukhoi.

    Because the copy is still piece. Releases in a series cheaper.


    Quote: GSH-18
    Quote: igorek4515
    The car is really good .. And very necessary in combat combat units ...

    Please explain why?
    And why is it better than the Su-30SM, and especially the Su-35S, which surpass this blinker in ALL parameters?

    These are different machines: the Su 35 is a heavy fighter, the Mig is light. According to the range of tasks, it is sharpened like a Su-30cm, but with less payload (if you simplify some things related to performance characteristics and tasks). And in terms of maneuverability, he is not inferior to them.
    MiG-31 and SU-27 can be compared with the same success, if you do not understand what tasks they are imprisoned for.
  13. lexx2038
    lexx2038 31 March 2016 16: 43
    0
    "... but we Israelis should pay attention to Russian weapons innovations, because sooner or later they will get into our region." - and most importantly on whose side they will fight.
  14. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 31 March 2016 16: 44
    +2
    Quote: Venceremos

    Pay pay yes Even if it does not appear at your borders.
    Just for comparison, with the F-35 "soup set" that the US wants to get you in ...

    The MiG-35 undoubtedly looms as a great 4+ generation car. But on the opposite courses with his EPR against the F-35 nothing can be done.
    1. shuhartred
      shuhartred 31 March 2016 17: 11
      +2
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Quote: Venceremos

      Pay pay yes Even if it does not appear at your borders.
      Just for comparison, with the F-35 "soup set" that the US wants to get you in ...

      The MiG-35 undoubtedly looms as a great 4+ generation car. But on the opposite courses with his EPR against the F-35 nothing can be done.


      Why is this impossible? Not every missile hits the target, and then the entrance to the melee is a MiG advantage, and of course the direct hands of the pilot play an important role. I repeat once again: the I-15 successfully shot down the Me-109 despite the huge advantage in terms of performance characteristics of the latter.
    2. Dali
      Dali 31 March 2016 17: 30
      0
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      But on the opposite courses with his EPR against the F-35 nothing can be done.

      So, you think that the Mig-35 will not detect a missile attack ... belay

      The type of blind and deaf and does not know how to dodge and there is no electronic warfare equipment on it and the developers lie: "In addition, the Russians claim that it is impossible to detect the MiG-35 passive means, which gives it a great advantage."

      Yes, and the F35 missiles from afar directs receiving information from "space" laughing !!!
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    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 31
      -5
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      The MiG-35 undoubtedly looms as a great 4+ generation car. But on the opposite courses with his EPR against the F-35 nothing can be done.

      Here Aron Zawi is absolutely right. Why do we need to release and take targets into the troops ??? When we have a T-50! It’s better to direct this money to improve the project of the 6th generation of Su! It's my opinion.
      1. Dali
        Dali 31 March 2016 17: 40
        -1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Why do we need to release and take targets into the troops ???

        As soon as the F35 turns on active target detection, he himself will become a target !!! laughing
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 31 March 2016 18: 08
          -2
          Quote: Dali
          Quote: GSH-18
          Why do we need to release and take targets into the troops ???

          As soon as the F35 turns on active target detection, he himself will become a target !!! laughing

          And if you don’t turn it on?
          1. Dali
            Dali April 1 2016 09: 34
            0
            Quote: GSH-18
            And if you don’t turn it on?

            laughing laughing laughing

            And if you don’t turn it on, then F35 is already a corpse !!!

            laughing laughing laughing
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 April 1 2016 09: 41
              0
              Quote: Dali
              Quote: GSH-18
              And if you don’t turn it on?

              laughing laughing laughing

              And if you don’t turn it on, then F35 is already a corpse !!!

              laughing laughing laughing

              Funny ...
              Dear, have you heard anything about such a thing, called PFAR? The mattress is actively developing it. And at what stage is the military secret. Suffice it to say that the passive mode of the aviation radar was the first to be used on their aircraft by the Americans. So bravado in style: Yes, we will beat him with a stick! This is the grade level approach of middle school.
              negative
              1. Dali
                Dali April 1 2016 10: 04
                -1
                Quote: GSH-18
                ! This is the grade level approach of middle school.

                Everything has been clear about your sayings for a long time ... enough of what you found on the Su-35S AFAR .... laughing laughing laughing

                Quote: GSH-18
                Funny ... Dear, have you heard anything about such a thing, is called PFAR? The mattress is actively developing it. And at what stage is the military secret. Suffice it to say that the passive mode of the aviation radar was the first to be used on their aircraft by the Americans.

                Those. Do you consider the statements of the Mig35 employees that it cannot be found passively, as you put it here, in one of the posts, "nonsense" ?! belay

                But as it turns out, you yourself are a liar and a hamlo ...
                1. GSH-18
                  GSH-18 April 1 2016 10: 28
                  -1
                  [/ quote] [quote = Dali] About your sayings everything has been clear for a long time ... just what you found on the Su-35S AFAR .... laughing laughing laughing [/ quote]
                  Yes, I'm sorry, the NEXT generation of radars is already installed there. love

                  [quote] H035 Irbis is a Russian aviation radar station with a passive phased antenna array, developed by NIIP and GRPZ. The average radar power for radiation is about 5 kW, the maximum is 20 kW. Electronic beam control (with a mechanical extension of the antenna sheet with a two-stage electrohydraulic drive to increase the beam deflection angle). The range of detection of air targets is up to 400 km [2]. [/ Quote] [quote = Dali] Everything has been clear about your sayings ... it's enough that you found on the Su-35S AFAR .... laughing laughing laughing [/ quote ]

                  [quote = Dali] Ie. Do you consider the statements of the Mig35 earners that it cannot be found passively, as you already here, in one of the posts put it, "nonsense"?! [/ quote]
                  Read my koment carefully, do not get excited, relax.
                  [quote = Dali] But as it turns out you yourself are a liar and a hamlo ... [/ quote]
                  But the transition to personality and insults on our site are not welcome. Forgive you Admin! laughing
                  1. Dali
                    Dali April 1 2016 12: 51
                    -1
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    But the transition to personality and insults on our site are not welcome. Forgive you Admin!

                    Well, this is primarily about you ... but they forgot their previous post (and even about the person who will not answer here, because they don’t know ... or can they tell? laughing )

                    Quote: GSH-18
                    Russian aviation radar station with passive phased antenna

                    But what about your statement:

                    GS-18 (1) EU Today, 09:36

                    Quote: GSH-18

                    Quote: krops777
                    According to the general director of the company Vyacheslav Tishchenko, This is the first active phased antenna array manufactured in Russia.

                    This is a nonsense! And not even blushing. Thinks everyone around is idiots? fool
                    And what airborne radars have long been standing on the combatant Su-30SM and Su-35S, the same versatile latest Su-34 bomber ??? AND? Cheap Lokhovskaya PR company of migushnikov.


                    Who called whom a nonsense and for what ?! - you have a memory loss, some kind of selective ... laughing
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                  3. Dali
                    Dali April 1 2016 13: 03
                    0
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    Yes, I'm sorry, the NEXT generation of radars is already installed there.

                    Those. AFAR is an outdated generation ?! belay Well then, the T-50 with AFAR design ?! belay

                    Well ... at VO there is also about NIIP development, and specific answers from NIIP:
                    http://topwar.ru/84844-afar-dlya-pak-fa-ispytaniya-pokazyvayut-otlichnye-rezulta
                    ty.html
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                  5. Dali
                    Dali April 1 2016 13: 09
                    0
                    Quote: GSH-18
                    But the transition to personality and insults on our site are not welcome. Forgive you Admin!

                    Yes, such an oscar should be blinded for a start to learn the Russian language ... laughing
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      3. Dali
        Dali 31 March 2016 17: 42
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Why do we need to release and take targets into the troops ???

        Well, it would be nice to justify it ...
        And it sounds like "the plane is not needed because it is not needed" laughing
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 31 March 2016 18: 13
          -2
          Quote: Dali
          Quote: GSH-18
          Why do we need to release and take targets into the troops ???

          Well, it would be nice to justify it ...
          And it sounds like "the plane is not needed because it is not needed" laughing

          And there is. Oil is oil. Its niche has long and rightfully occupied the more advanced Dryers. Mig-35 is not needed.
          Welcome to export.
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      5. Cat man null
        Cat man null 31 March 2016 17: 53
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        When we have a T-50!

        T-50 is already in service? In the series ??

        I missed something, the campaign .. hat-throwers, damn it ..
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 31 March 2016 18: 16
          -2
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Quote: GSH-18
          When we have a T-50!

          T-50 is already in service? In the series ??

          I missed something, the campaign .. hat-throwers, damn it ..

          Perhaps you missed the combat use of the Su-30SM and Su-35S in Syria. And to the T-50 of this 35th craft of flashing lights as to the moon.
          1. Dali
            Dali April 1 2016 09: 39
            -1
            Quote: GSH-18
            Perhaps you missed the combat use of the Su-30SM and Su-35S in Syria. And to the T-50 of this 35th craft of flashing lights as to the moon.


            Like, as you said ... crafts of migushnikov? !!! belay

            Of course, I’m not a flasher ... but in the face for such words, on the site of the Miga developers, I would definitely give ...

            What ... you are a super-duper developer of the world's best fighters ... what? belay laughing
      6. tomket
        tomket 31 March 2016 18: 38
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        When we have the T-50

        And how many will enter the troops in the coming years?
        Quote: GSH-18
        It’s better to direct this money to improving the project of the 6-th generation of Su!

        Better yet, give it to Poghosyan right away) So that he would start building the "SM death star"))))
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 31 March 2016 19: 48
          -3
          Quote: tomket
          Better yet, give Poghosyan right away)

          Do not say nonsense. In Syria there was not a single MiG aircraft. This is already talking about something. And our pilots coped with the air operation brilliantly! I hope you will not argue with this?
          1. tomket
            tomket 31 March 2016 23: 30
            -4
            Quote: GSH-18
            And our pilots coped with the air operation brilliantly!

            Well yes. And soo xnumx lost.
    5. VP
      VP 31 March 2016 18: 16
      +1
      Why
      What will F do?
      Slowly launch an inconspicuous rocket according to the imperceptible radar?
      What becomes of F if the MiG evades this attack or neutralizes on-board equipment?
      For a minute - the speed of a migratory kilometer is 800 higher than that of F and with maneuverability in lightning it does not at all. Neither run away nor dodge.
      The radius, by the way, is also in the region of a thousand.
  15. ksv36
    ksv36 31 March 2016 17: 04
    +1
    Quote: sir_obs
    The wind under the wings! And so that the number of take-offs is always equal to the number of landings!


    And it is better that the number of landings be larger. (Forced landing.) laughing
  16. marshes
    marshes 31 March 2016 17: 08
    +1
    35 if it appears in the troops, it will change 29 that has served its term.
  17. krops777
    krops777 31 March 2016 17: 10
    +2
    The MiG-35 undoubtedly looms as a great 4+ generation car. But on the opposite courses with his EPR against the F-35 nothing can be done.

    Fazotron-NIIR Russian Corporation has completed the development of the newest Zhuk-AE on-board radar for MiG-35 fighters with active phased array. According to the company’s general director Vyacheslav Tishchenko, this is the first active phased array in Russia. fighter to the main competitor - the American fighter of the fifth generation F-35. Now our "MiG" is able to compete with the F-35 not only in air battles, but also in world arms markets. "
    I don’t think that Americans have better radar.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 31 March 2016 17: 12
      +2
      Quote: krops777
      "Russian corporation" Fazotron-NIIR "has completed the development of the latest onboard radar station" Zhuk-AE "

      That is, 35 is imprisoned for EXPORT, and not for our army. In parallel, an AFAR is being developed for the PAK FA Squirrel.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 31 March 2016 17: 28
        -2
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: krops777
        "Russian corporation" Fazotron-NIIR "has completed the development of the latest onboard radar station" Zhuk-AE "

        That is, 35 is imprisoned for EXPORT, and not for our army. In parallel, an AFAR is being developed for the PAK FA Squirrel.

        The 35th is not needed! "Kin-Dza-Dza" bully
      2. krops777
        krops777 31 March 2016 17: 28
        +1
        That is, 35 is imprisoned for EXPORT, and not for our army. In parallel, an AFAR is being developed for the PAK FA Squirrel.


        Maybe it’s not for us to decide, I think everything depends on the price of the plane. After all, it is not known how much the T-50 will cost, but I think it's expensive.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 31 March 2016 17: 32
          +1
          Quote: krops777

          Maybe it’s not for us to decide, I think everything depends on the price of the plane. After all, it is not known how much the T-50 will cost, but I think it's expensive.

          And you do not equate the new generation heavy MFIs with obviously better characteristics and arsenal with the previous generation average MFIs and then everything will fall into place. For comparison, on the T-50 5! AFAR, and 35 on one. About range, over-maneuverability, in general I will not say anything.
          1. krops777
            krops777 31 March 2016 17: 58
            +2
            And you do not equate the new generation heavy MFIs with obviously better characteristics and arsenal with the previous generation average MFIs and then everything will fall into place. For comparison, on the T-50 5! AFAR, and 35 on one. About range, over-maneuverability, in general I will not say anything.


            Yes, what is the talk of the TTX T-50 itself a secret, and not everything is known about the MIG-35, but the price will be different and not in favor of the T-50, and if you take into account the ratio of tasks performed, 4 ++ aircraft may be more in demand.
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 31 March 2016 18: 18
        -3
        Quote: NEXUS
        That is 35 imprisoned for export, and not for our army.

        Yes, for small countries and claims.
    2. vv3
      vv3 31 March 2016 17: 50
      +1
      The capabilities of the AFAR are implemented by the calculator. Everything depends on its power, memory and the program that can be implemented in it. Now it’s clear which one is better. Think better before writing.
      1. Roman 57 rus
        Roman 57 rus 31 March 2016 23: 08
        +1
        I agree with you, at MAKS I’ve talked with people doing AFAR, they confirm that the weak point in our radars is their computing power (by the way, they are imports in our (?) AFAR)
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 April 1 2016 09: 36
      -2
      Quote: krops777
      According to the general director of the company Vyacheslav Tishchenko, this is the first active phased array antenna made in Russia.

      This is a nonsense! And not even blushing. Thinks everyone around is idiots? fool
      And what airborne radars have long been standing on the combatant Su-30SM and Su-35S, the same versatile latest Su-34 bomber ??? AND? Cheap Lokhovskaya PR company of migushnikov.
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      2. Dali
        Dali April 1 2016 09: 57
        0
        Quote: GSH-18
        And what airborne radars have long been standing on the combatant Su-30SM and Su-35S, the same versatile latest Su-34 bomber ??? AND? Cheap Lokhovskaya PR company of migushnikov.

        Ndass ...
        Well, you ... yavafapfvpfvap ...

        Stands on the Su-35S radar N035 "Irbis" - an excellent system, but still not AFAR ...

        Here is the reference and excerpt from the article: http://topwar.ru/61627-.html
        In the aggregate of its characteristics, the "thirty-fifth" is closely approximated to the fifth-generation fighter. Does not meet only two requirements: stealth technology and AFAR.

        So this is you LIAR !!!
  18. vv3
    vv3 31 March 2016 17: 10
    +6
    Do not mix everything in a bunch. The MIG-35/29 glider has not exhausted its capabilities. It is so successful and has a reserve for many years. The second point: KB should be supported and given a chance. One of the main problems is the engines and the combat radius and load associated with it. The competitors did not stand still: on Rafal, the engines are more modern and more economical, on the Super F-18, too, and in addition they improve to increase the aircraft's potential. This does not mean that the MIG-35 has no chance of competition. It is urgent to engage in engines, but for now beat the price. No need to shove everything in a row on the MIG-35, you need to increase the ability to work on the ground and simplify the BRZO, reduce the price with a minimum reduction in capabilities.
  19. waitknait
    waitknait 31 March 2016 17: 13
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    Well, they want a wonderful Jew Mig35, but please, any whim for your money.
    Here, for some reason, many people do not take into account the economic component, if it is possible to give our people money for bread, by exporting Miggs, one should be so happy. Well, do not put all the eggs in one basket.
  20. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 31 March 2016 17: 13
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    Israelis! You better give up right away! Well, or go to our side, it seems that we once initiated the creation of your state. So you are to some extent the children of Russia.
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 31 March 2016 17: 44
      +2
      Israelis! You better give up right away! Well, or go to our side, it seems that we once initiated the creation of your state. So you are, to some extent, children of Russia
      Just the interests of the USSR and the USA coincided to kick the British
      least children of Russia, right of the USSR and not Russia
    2. Professor
      Professor 31 March 2016 19: 30
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      Quote: Tatar 174
      Well, or go to our side, it seems that we once initiated the creation of your state.

      You are mistaken. Israel was created without your participation. Gromyko had no choice but to admit a fait accompli - the self-proclamation of the state of Israel. hi

      I am glad that MiG is still alive and Sukhoi’s schemers haven’t completely collapsed.
      1. Lex.
        Lex. 31 March 2016 20: 17
        +2
        recognize the fait accompli-the self-proclamation of the state of Israel. hi
        In general, after the recognition of Israel, the United States 3 months later wanted to withdraw its proposal for the recognition of Israel but late. It was just a coincidence that the interests of the United States and the USSR coincided, they all wanted to see England out of the Middle East and how to do it correctly recognition of Israel would be half a year late and that’s all
        Gromyko had no choice but to admit a fait accompli if the USSR had not insisted there would have been nothing. But now Israel, every US sneeze, is afraid of Obama's personal enemy
        1. Professor
          Professor 31 March 2016 20: 21
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          Quote: Lex.
          In general, after the recognition of Israel, the United States, 3 months later, wanted to withdraw its proposal for the recognition of Israel but late.

          You can recognize the moon or not recognize. from this the fact of its existence will not change.

          Quote: Lex.
          everyone wanted to escort England from the Middle East and how to do it correctly recognition of Israel would be half a year late and all

          Hard case. You at least read the wiki. Great Britain (it was she who was here, not England) herself withdrew her mandate, and not under pressure from the USA or the USSR.
          1. Lex.
            Lex. 31 March 2016 22: 04
            +2
            Hard case. You at least read the wiki. Great Britain (it was she who was here, not England) herself withdrew her mandate, and not under pressure from the USA or the USSR
            For me, the wiki is not an authority professor listen to Jacob Kedmi a man in Israeli intelligence served
            1. Professor
              Professor 31 March 2016 22: 44
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              Quote: Lex.
              For me, the wiki is not an authority professor listen to Jacob Kedmi a man in Israeli intelligence served

              1. The history of your state must be thoroughly known. You can even start with a wiki.
              2. Yasha has never served in intelligence. He was in charge of Nativ, which was not intelligence. Anyway, he is offended by the whole world. Same to me "authority". lol
      2. Lex.
        Lex. 31 March 2016 20: 21
        +4
        I'm glad that the MiG is still alive and Sukhoi’s schemers haven’t completely ruined it
        Well, Russia is a big country; airdromes are far from each other and su-27s are better suited for at least su saved, otherwise Yeltsin and Gaidar and Chubais pleased the factories with a trillion of all technologies to Siemens, Boeing pleased for the drama
    3. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 April 1 2016 06: 33
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      I apologize for the inappropriate joke about "give up" ... repeat
  21. AlexSam
    AlexSam 31 March 2016 17: 15
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    Jews may also want to buy such planes ... against the background of a weakening of strong hugs with p. endos and the development of trade and economic relations such as TS and other things, such an idea does not seem unbelievable to me ... and when you consider that the 35th higher than F-16/18, then this is generally real ... that’s where the State Department will howl))
  22. vv3
    vv3 31 March 2016 17: 41
    +1
    Do not forget the interest of the Israelis. They have a bunch of groundwork and adapted their own and foreign systems for installation on the MIG. A plane will be sold, they will also be able to offer something. They are masters in combining our aircraft with European standards.
  23. VeteranVS
    VeteranVS 31 March 2016 19: 07
    +1
    Quote: Mixweb
    Mig is very different from dryers. This is a completely different class. It is much lighter and more maneuverable. Essentially a clean interceptor.

    Quote: Mixweb
    Mig is very different from dryers. This is a completely different class. It is much lighter and more maneuverable. Essentially a clean interceptor.

    net interceptors (su-9, su-11, su-15, mig-25, mig-31, tu-128, yak-28) were never distinguished by maneuverability.
  24. Winnie76
    Winnie76 31 March 2016 19: 53
    +1
    A smart article on this topic where about LFI and a couple of light / heavy fighters have already chewed http://topwar.ru/38556-legkiy-istrebitel.html
  25. From Udmurtia
    From Udmurtia 31 March 2016 20: 32
    +1
    Are there pilots or participants in the development of the concept of using combat aircraft or are there all couch experts who have seen enough of the videos on YouTube Are there pilots or participants in the development of the concept of using combat aircraft or are there all sofa experts who have seen enough of the videos in YouTube?
  26. Gurinov Nikolay
    Gurinov Nikolay 31 March 2016 20: 58
    -1
    Well done! Definitely well done! There is gunpowder in the powder flasks.! At least someone in Russia works!
  27. Algol
    Algol 31 March 2016 21: 07
    +1
    Quote: pavlentiy
    These aircraft have different tasks.

    If my memory serves me right, then Migi is a front-line fighter, warriors over the battlefield, and Rusk is a heavy fighter gaining dominance in the air, in general, on the distant approaches to our borders.
    1. Roman 57 rus
      Roman 57 rus 31 March 2016 23: 15
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      Lightweight fighter jets are also less demanding on the runway. It is easier to use in the frontline zone.
  28. Crown
    Crown April 4 2016 08: 01
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    The MIG-35 front-line fighter, essentially a soldier aircraft, does not need to be compared with Sushki.