Weapons of mass purchase

Vladimir Putin said yesterday that Russia sold in 2015 weapons for $ 14,5 billion, and the order book reached a record level from 1992, $ 56 billion. The main deliveries fell to such traditional partners of Russia as India and Iraq. According to Kommersant’s information, in 2016, special attention will also be paid to Algeria, which is ready to purchase Su-32 bombers and the Antey-2500 air defense system, as well as the implementation of contracts already concluded with Egypt and China.

The first meeting of the commission on military-technical cooperation in 2016 was held in Nizhny Novgorod, where Mr. Putin had a whole program scheduled (see page 3). In his opening remarks, the president said: arms exports in the 2015 year amounted to $ 14,5 billion, which allowed Russia to retain the second place in the world in terms of the volume of products supplied. “The capabilities of our equipment and weapons were demonstrated in a combat situation, in the course of the struggle against the terrorist threat,” Vladimir Putin stressed. He added that the order book "for the first time since 1992 of the year" reached $ 56 billion (due to new contracts worth over $ 2015 billion signed in 26). Supplies of weapons and equipment were carried out in 58 countries of the world, however, India, Iraq, Vietnam, China and Algeria were named among the main partners of Russia in the field of military-technical cooperation.

According to Kommersant's sources in the military-technical cooperation sphere, it was these countries that generated the 2015 profit. For example, 12 sets were shipped to India for the assembly of Su-30MKI fighters, 23 Mi-17V-5 helicopters, aviation engines Al-31FP and RD-33, as well as the modernization of the diesel-electric submarine of project 877 Sindhukitri, and six Ka-31 helicopters, and other types of weapons and military equipment (all together - at least $ 4 billion). Equipment under contracts of 2013 was supplied to Iraq: Mi-35M, Mi-28NE and Mi-171SH helicopters, Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile and cannon systems, TOS-1A heavy flamethrower systems, Tanks T-72B (over $ 1 billion). Vietnam received two diesel-electric submarines of Project 06361 Varshavyanka, four Su-30MK2 fighters and means of destruction for them (totaling about $ 1 billion). Six Mi-26T2 helicopters, a batch of Pantsir-C1 air defense missile systems, T-90CA tanks were shipped to Algeria, and they also began modernizing their infantry fighting vehicles to the BMP-2M variant (about $ 800 million). China this year was limited to only a batch of Ka-32 helicopters and D-30KP2 aircraft engines. In addition, Egypt signed a large package of contracts with Russia (at least $ 5 billion), including supplies of Mig-29M fighters, Buk-M2E and Antey-2500 air defense systems, as well as 46 Ka-52 helicopters: this year agreements will continue to be implemented.

The agreements with the CIS countries, mentioned by Vladimir Putin, also played their role: for example, a batch of T-90С tanks, infantry fighting vehicles BMP-3, Mi-17В-1 helicopters was transferred to Azerbaijan, and the contract for the supply of 18 units TOC-1А (not less than $ 600 million). From the CSTO countries, commercial deliveries went only to Belarus (four Yak-130 training and combat aircraft) and Kazakhstan (four Su-30CM fighters received its Air Force), but only the Kommersant interlocutors call only their fact “great success”: small - about $ 500 million, - but still "real money, not deliveries free of charge".

Free of charge, Russian equipment from the presence of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation was supplied to Belarus (four divisions of anti-aircraft missile systems C-300PS), Kazakhstan (five divisions of such systems) and Kyrgyzstan (ten BTR-70М armored personnel carriers).

According to Kommersant’s sources, last year Rosoboronexport faced not only fierce competition in the market and increased customer requirements, but also a decline in revenues for traditional buyers, primarily because of the cheap oil. Nevertheless, this did not prevent Algeria from concluding a contract for the purchase of Mi-40HE helicopters around 28, send a request to Moscow to acquire a Su-32 front bomber squadron, as well as test the Su-35 fighter on its proving ground. In addition, according to Kommersant, negotiations are underway on the purchase of several Anthea-2500 divisions.

High hopes interlocutors "b" is associated in 2016, with China and India. For two years in a row, Beijing became the launch customer for Russian new products: in September, 2014 of the year he first bought four C-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems ($ 1,9 billion), and in November 2015 of the year, was the first to sign a contract for the 24 Su-35 fighter ( about $ 2 billion). Delhi, in particular, is negotiating the purchase of two submarines of the 636 project and, as Deputy Director of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation Vladimir Drozhzhov acknowledged yesterday, about leasing the second nuclear submarine from the Russian Federation (Kommersant wrote about this on March 24). Negotiations with Saudi Arabia intensified: Riyadh is interested in C-400 systems and Iskander-E tactical missile systems. Kommersant sources do not harbor illusions, predicting "complex negotiations with an unobvious outcome."

The lifting of the embargo on the supply of the C-300 complex to Iran and the signing of the corresponding contract in 2015 allowed stabilizing relations between the two countries, but Tehran’s desire to obtain weapons on credit and the sanctions of the UN Security Council prevent the conclusion of transactions.

According to Kommersant’s information, yesterday’s meeting was not without criticism. In particular, Vladimir Putin drew attention to the 2011 contract for purchasing two Mistral helicopter carriers from France, which was drafted on conditions that were extremely unfavorable for Russia (the French could terminate the contract based on the government’s decision, and Moscow would receive no more than 20% of the billionth contract). The second question concerned technical problems with the implementation of contracts - in particular, for the supply of BTR-82А to Azerbaijan (see Kommersant from March 3).

Comments

[Oleg Sobol]

If the sale of weapons is aimed at stabilizing the planetary and state situation, both outside and inside, this is not bad.
As the saying goes, both the wolves are safe and the sheep are full ...
But I hope that the use of diplomatic tools in resolving issues will reach a more significant level, as well as an informative opportunity in the face of RT and Sputnik ...
These features are no less effective, but more humane ...

[venaya]

Quote: Oleg Sobol

the use of diplomatic tools in resolving issues will reach a more significant level, as will the informative opportunity represented by RT and Sputnik ...

Try to never forget the simplest truth that: "With a good word and colt, greater success can be achieved than just a good word". We live in the real world, and not in the world of illusions created by us, so we did not create today's" rules of the game ", we just have to obey these rules and only slightly correct them, nothing more.

[subbtin.725]

Vladimir Putin drew attention to a 2011 contract for the purchase of two Mistral helicopter carriers from France, which was drawn up on extremely unfavorable conditions for Russia (the French could terminate the contract on the basis of a government decision, and in court Moscow would receive no more than 20% of the billionth contract).

So we found out why it wasn’t so simple with the Mistral. And well done GDP, it was still able to recapture at least face value.Well, we will earn on the contract for helicopters for Egypt (and then: maintenance, spare parts ..).

[Sobol]

Quote: subbtin.725

Vladimir Putin drew attention to a 2011 contract for the purchase of two Mistral helicopter carriers from France, which was drawn up on extremely unfavorable conditions for Russia (the French could terminate the contract on the basis of a government decision, and in court Moscow would receive no more than 20% of the billionth contract).

So we found out why it wasn’t so simple with the Mistral. And well done GDP, it was still able to recapture at least face value.Well, we will earn on the contract for helicopters for Egypt (and then: maintenance, spare parts ..).

And I wonder who and why signed the contract so poorly drawn up. When they checked him, didn’t they see this nuance?

[Gardamir]

A kind word and a colt can achieve greater success than just a kind word "

It means. that you can use a colt to talk to a burglar in a dark corner. If you sell your colts to the left and wait until the right. that someone wants to talk with you too.
Already infuriates this ideology of trading. Russia is called for export, wholesale and retail. Since when is the trade in weapons of destruction considered good. You’ll write a laudatory article on the drug trade.

[venaya]

Quote: Gardamir

you can use a colt to talk to a burglar in a dark corner. If you sell your colts to the left and wait until the right. that someone wants to talk with you too.
Already infuriates this ideology of trading

Oleg Sobol "the use of diplomatic tools in resolving issues will reach a more significant level, as will the informative opportunity represented by RT and Sputnik ..."- Read carefully, the media is nothing more than a kind word, it is an effective weapon of mass destruction. Do you disagree with that? Now think about whether we have free funds in our country to develop and release the second component of ours." diplomacy "(arming the army) necessary to protect the country from all sorts of threats? Or what, do you propose to take away the latter from grandmothers for armaments? I think that trade in permissible types of weapons is simply necessary for our country, which is in a difficult economic situation. And what suggestions do you have on the most important need for the modern modernization of the weapons of our army. I still did not grasp the essence of your proposal. Do you really propose to bury your head in the sand and put the back of your body out? Explain your position on this issue.

[Gardamir]

Do you disagree with this?

I agree. but weapons sold abroad can suddenly turn against us. Good. when we are strong. because we have such weapons, it’s bad when someone else has our weapons.

Do we have available funds in our country?

Where have you gone? How long have they discussed the new word "treasury" here and were proud that the president gives money to America, thereby "earning"

grandmothers last weapon?

But isn't that what the bourgeois elite is doing, constantly taking money from the people. For example, raising the retirement age or delaying compensation. Finally in the country. which produces oil, gasoline suddenly rose in price. Speaking of available funds, how much does the construction of the Yeltsin Mausoleum cost? And the financial support of the stop-boom and other NGOs?
One will involuntarily remember the "ineffective" USSR, which did not profit from its people. The Union had both enemies and allies. And these only have partners, they trade left and right.

[Cap.Morgan]

Quote: Gardamir

One will involuntarily remember the "ineffective" USSR, which did not profit from its people. The Union had both enemies and allies. And these only have partners, they trade left and right.

The USSR had a wartime economy.
That is, civilian products were also produced at military factories as secondary ones.
The USSR opposed the whole world and also China almost alone.
It is ridiculous to consider the contribution of some sort of Bulgaria or Angola to the general security system.
For whose interesting account was all this done?
How do you think? These tens of thousands of tanks?

[Nick]

[quote = Guardamir] And these only have partners who trade left and right. [/ quote.]
Of course, it is always better to give left and right. As the USSR loved to do. So your way?

[Gardamir]

Of course, it is always better to give left and right. As the USSR loved to do

Do not now forgive debts left and right?

[rkkasa xnumx]

In itself, the sale of BT is not something shameful. Another thing is that it is desirable to sell as in the USSR.

Tanks T-34 and T-54, MiG-15 aircraft, M-30, BTR-40 and BTR-152 howitzers, etc. For example, in 1977. The 25 thousandth army of Somalia had 200 T-34 tanks, 50 T-54/55 tanks, 60 BTR-40 and 250 BTR-152, more than 100 76 mm. guns, 80 122 mm howitzers and approximately 150 anti-aircraft guns up to 100 mm. The Air Force consisted of approximately 66 aircraft: 10 Il-28 bombers, 12 MiG-21 fighters, 44 MiG-17 and MiG-15 fighters.

That is, new equipment is being adopted by us, and the old, and the ammunition for it, must be put somewhere, leaving all of it for conservation is not the best solution. So you need to dispose of it. But, on the one hand, recycling will certainly provide valuable materials - steel, color, precious metals, plastic; and on the other, it’s still a mess with her.

And most importantly, a cut tank or plane is just a set of materials, albeit valuable, but a whole tank or plane is an expensive, high-tech product, the cost of which includes the work of various design bureaus, engineers, technologists, skilled workers, etc. Plus, the sale of such products entails the sale of ammunition. Therefore, if possible, it is advisable not to make a bunch of resources from military equipment, but to sell, or change them to something you need, like a product.

[Cap.Morgan]

Quote: Gardamir

A kind word and a colt can achieve greater success than just a kind word "

It means. that you can use a colt to talk to a burglar in a dark corner. If you sell your colts to the left and wait until the right. that someone wants to talk with you too.
Already infuriates this ideology of trading. Russia is called for export, wholesale and retail. Since when is the trade in weapons of destruction considered good. You’ll write a laudatory article on the drug trade.

Not Russia wholesale and retail but the sale of weapons as a profitable and highly profitable business.
Arms manufacturing is a very expensive segment. Including for our army. The re-equipment should be financed from some sources, as well as R&D - research. After all, by 2020 we want to have an army reequipped by 70% ❗
And oil, as you know, kirdyk. That trade will help.
In addition, if you sold abroad, for example, tanks, then you carry out maintenance, supply spare parts ... without your help, all this equipment will stand up in six months, turn into scrap metal. So the attacks on you adversary with your own weapons can not be afraid. Moreover, you receive additional income from the supply of spare parts, components, ammunition, and, subsequently, modernization.
To all the benefits already listed are added the possibility of further sales to the same customer ....
Well, the workload of defense industry enterprises. Workplaces. Money earned and spent here and not over the hill.

[Imperialkolorad]

It has always been considered a blessing. The sale of weapons abroad helps to reduce the cost of weapons for themselves. And it's time for you to take off your pink glasses, for we have already left many markets for the destruction of weapons. Do not believe it with a joyful boom, these pieces of the market were occupied by our geopolitical opponents.

[Gardamir]

. Do not believe it with a joyful boom, these pieces of the market were occupied by our geopolitical opponents.

And what? great partners occupy alternative energy markets. And in 10 years, oil will cost 10 tugriks. Brains need to be brainwashed now, and not rake up the crumbs of the past. And the arms trade is always a crime.

[Imperialkolorad]

So it was directly about the arms trade. Alternative energy is a completely different story. But if you really want to, then Russia is one of the leaders in nuclear energy, which, despite all the horror stories, is much more effective than your alternative, and horror is often more environmentally friendly.
As for weapons, go ahead and condemn the beacon of democracy.

[Nick]

Quote: Gardamir

And what? great partners occupy alternative energy markets. And in 10 years, oil will cost 10 tugriks. Brains need to be brainwashed now, and not rake up the crumbs of the past.

And in Russia they have already learned how to make electric batteries that work for 50 years. The most advanced nuclear technologies are also in Russia. So, as in the energy sector, we "brain"

Quote: Gardamir

And the arms trade is always a crime.

The whole world is criminals, one you are all in white.

[Gardamir]

One you are all in white.

Well, someone must call for the light!

[Blondy]

Quote: venaya

We live in the real world, not in the world of illusions created by us, so we did not create today's "rules of the game"

Oh, when we learn to set these very rules.

[Spartanez300]

And again, Putin outplayed everyone. Someone said that Russia will not succeed in Syria, someone who spent a lot of money on the operation and all turned out to be wrong only profit, I mean the financial side, only a portfolio of orders for 56 billion says a lot.

[Spartanez300]

What a foolish person sculpts all the cons.

[Greenwood]

Do not so admire Putin in his comments, that's all. This is not like a lot of people, including me.

[Blondy]

I read the material, took pride in our gunsmiths, made an apartment - she was imports - from sockets to the refrigerator. And what are our so-called businessmen busy with other than pumping out raw materials? Elinno what is on hearing - so this is a PR about the abandonment of our leisure and in this connection the legalization of "instant lotteries", as gambling is now euphemized.

[tornada61]

Yesterday, Vladimir Putin said that Russia sold arms worth $ 2015 billion in 14,5, and that defense-related wages fell 50%, where is the BOBA money?

[Panabebis]

defense industry salary fell 50%

Do you yourself believe in that?)))

[Cap.Morgan]

Quote: Panaebis

defense industry salary fell 50%

Do you yourself believe in that?)))

Well. A friend works in the defense industry. His salary debt is half a million. But I do not believe him. He is such a liar. He says that he lives with the girl 20 years younger. I do not believe. Although I saw the girl.
I don’t know. Believe him. Do not believe.

[Mountain shooter]

What nonsense? Where and from whom did it fall? Or do you think in "green candy wrappers"? So in stores they don't sell anything for them.

[cth; fyn]

For the sake of interest I looked at 2014 and 13 years, and here and there the figure is about 15 lard, where is the drop of 50%?

[Panabebis]

What is the difference between MI-28N and MI-28NE? Why are we so afraid to sell the promised S-400 to Iran? Is our leadership scared of Israeli threats? Recently, there was an article about Russia banning Belarus from selling several UAE fighters. They said they said about the unfriendly policy of the Russian Federation to Sunni countries. However, we ourselves are trying to conclude contracts with the Saudis. In this case, Belarusians were unfairly treated. In short, successful export of our weapons! :)

[igorv501]

Wow! Something I forgot and who signed the Mistral contract with us? Apparently a relative or bosom friend.

[Pvi1206]

Putin drew attention to a 2011 contract for the purchase of two Mistral helicopter carriers from France, which was drawn up on extremely unfavorable conditions for Russia

Making a good product is half the battle.
Equally important is to correctly implement it, anticipating all kinds of visible and hidden obstacles ...

[X Y Z]

... Vladimir Putin drew attention to a 2011 contract for the purchase of two Mistral helicopter carriers from France, which was drawn up on extremely unfavorable conditions for Russia (the French could terminate the contract on the basis of a government decision, and in court Moscow would receive no more than 20% of the billionth contract).

This is amazing! We are forced to fulfill all the slightest wishes of our customers and include in the contract not very favorable conditions for us. And this is despite the fact that we offer the best at low prices and there are simply no other similar offers. The French, despite the limited workload of their shipyards, were able to push through the contract for the Mistral on their own terms and at a high price. The question of whether it is corruption or just unprofessional work of negotiators and lawyers is hanging in the air.

[Cap.Morgan]

Quote: XYZ

... Vladimir Putin drew attention to a 2011 contract for the purchase of two Mistral helicopter carriers from France, which was drawn up on extremely unfavorable conditions for Russia (the French could terminate the contract on the basis of a government decision, and in court Moscow would receive no more than 20% of the billionth contract).

This is amazing! We are forced to fulfill all the slightest wishes of our customers and include in the contract not very favorable conditions for us. And this is despite the fact that we offer the best at low prices and there are simply no other similar offers. The French, despite the limited workload of their shipyards, were able to push through the contract for the Mistral on their own terms and at a high price. The question of whether it is corruption or just unprofessional work of negotiators and lawyers is hanging in the air.

Arms trade is a complex field.
Here, intelligence also works. Several years ago we carried out the completion of a large ship for India, so there we double-reviewed the price in our favor, the Indian official responsible for this was even involved in a scandal with a Russian mistress. Horror.
By the way, what about the Rafals, the Indians take them, do not take ....?

[Ramzes33]

Pleased with the success of the defense industry products, global demand is growing. I hope the foreign exchange proceeds go towards the development of new products, the modernization of defense industry enterprises, and the re-equipment of the armed forces.

[vladimirvn]

The phrase "Mr. Putin" cuts the ear. By the way, when you call the cops mister policeman, they take offense.
But in fact the article, well, the news is great. Thank God we still know how to produce high-tech products with high added value, and not just drive raw materials for sale.

[Evgeniy667b]

"Thank God, we still know how to produce high-tech products with high added value, and not just drive raw materials for sale."

Why rejoice? Sell ​​to anyone. You can and Saudi, read ISIS. They also sold T-90S tanks, helicopters and TOS-1a to Azerbaijan. And the Karabakh conflict is kind of flaring up again. Are Armenians like our friends and allies?
Could we be glad that in our Russian army all these achievements come in sufficient quantity? Again did not guess. Received, but in pieces. And as a result, practically in all strategic directions we have nothing to cover. But the Indians only had a thought, and ours helpfully with their services. We ..... are cheaper for you, just take it.
It could be assumed that the proceeds from the sales money will change something? Well, let's say in equipping our Russian army? However, part is unfolded in the primary chain of recipients on kickbacks and just hijacking, the rest with a simple stroke of the pen, Ms. Nabiullina will drive into the papers of the same USA! That is, the withdrawal of money from circulation in Russia.
Someone can prove the opposite, I will be very happy!
In the meantime, statements from the highest rostrum about a portfolio of orders for 54 lard are nothing but hypocrisy!

[Cap.Morgan]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

"Thank God, we still know how to produce high-tech products with high added value, and not just drive raw materials for sale."

Why rejoice? Sell ​​to anyone. You can and Saudi, read ISIS. They also sold T-90S tanks, helicopters and TOS-1a to Azerbaijan. And the Karabakh conflict is kind of flaring up again. Are Armenians like our friends and allies?
Could we be glad that in our Russian army all these achievements come in sufficient quantity? Again did not guess. Received, but in pieces. And as a result, practically in all strategic directions we have nothing to cover. But the Indians only had a thought, and ours helpfully with their services. We ..... are cheaper for you, just take it.
It could be assumed that the proceeds from the sales money will change something? Well, let's say in equipping our Russian army? However, part is unfolded in the primary chain of recipients on kickbacks and just hijacking, the rest with a simple stroke of the pen, Ms. Nabiullina will drive into the papers of the same USA! That is, the withdrawal of money from circulation in Russia.
Someone can prove the opposite, I will be very happy!
In the meantime, statements from the highest rostrum about a portfolio of orders for 54 lard are nothing but hypocrisy!

Oh, come on.
Listen to you, so everything would have been plundered a long time ago!
In terms of rearmament by 70% until 2020, that is, for 3 years.
The military sphere is without a doubt one of the most classified areas and no one will tell you how much and what kind of equipment goes to the troops.
But the fact that the army is able to carry out the tasks we have seen on the example of Syria.
If the tasks in Syria are excellent, how can this be with single deliveries of military equipment to the troops?
Let’s specifically.
What cases of kickbacks do you know, can you name?
Give cases of dumping to which of the solvent countries we sold products cheaply.
In addition, it will be difficult to shoot down a Russian aircraft using the Russian complex, you have to conjure with electronic brains. And not the fact that they can handle it.

[lotar]

Our military equipment is a product of high redistribution, and according to the efficiency-price-quality scheme, it occupies the 1th place in almost the entire military nomenclature. It would be very cool if the civilian type of equipment was at the same level. In my opinion, for our of the country and our potential foreign partners, the most interesting will be dual-use products, where the same efficiency-price-quality will be laid. Overseas, the economy is more diversified and the quantity of goods of high processing is much higher than in our countries e. I hope we will come to this, and will not use extremely dubious schemes of their enrichment through bureaucratic and entrepreneurial lawlessness.

[vladimirvn]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

Someone can prove the opposite, I will be very happy!

Let's try it. Firstly. We will not sell, others will sell. Secondly. The task is to replenish the treasury of Nabiulina, she performs it. So before her there are no restrictions on such investments. Business, money, generally a very cynical thing. And as always, we have a difficult financial and economic situation.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: vladimirvn

The task is to replenish the treasury of Nabiullina, she performs it

There you go! Nabiullina, according to the states, is the best financier in the world! And if the states praise - it means she is definitely an enemy of our state! Wasn’t her easy hand that our last billions received went to the US Federal Reserve? Do we have nowhere to make money? Even in the same agriculture! So no, it is better to support the state economy, and spit on our economy with all the proletarian hatred!

[Vitale]

Arms sales to Azerbaijan are a risky thing, because if they suddenly happen to be on the side of Turkey

[FM-78]

Unfortunately, I think it will be very sad in the future.

[silver_roman]

Concerned about the following:

on leasing from the Russian Federation a second nuclear submarine

probably about a year ago there was information that this very nuclear submarine could become "Severodvinsk" pr.885 "Ash". Then the idea seemed to me just absurd, although there should be logic in everything and I would like to understand it. Still, that "ash", laid down more than 10 years ago, is very different from the 885M, which is now being built for the Navy, and yet I would not want to lose this kind of nuclear submarine.