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On the Russian border in the Crimea recorded an American drone

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The Russian military near the border with the Crimea recorded UAVs, which, according to radar data, was moving towards the peninsula from Bulgaria through Romania and Ukraine, the agency reports Ридус message channel lifenews.


On the Russian border in the Crimea recorded an American drone


A Russian interceptor flew to the drone meeting, who accompanied him "throughout the route that ran along the borders of the peninsula," the report said.

According to the TV channel, the drone’s onboard number - 3412 - was punched by the military according to an international database. It turned out that the aircraft "is on the balance of the US Armed Forces."

According to information received from the source, "the interceptor aircraft was raised from the Russian coast as soon as the drone approached the border."

The interlocutor noted at the same time that "the aircraft clearly followed the intended trajectory and kept from the border of the Crimea at a distance of a little more than 10 km."

The channel, citing experts, suggested that the object recorded by the military could be the American reconnaissance UAV Northrop Grumman RQ-4 Global Hawk, which “is capable of video filming as well as radio frequency monitoring.”

At the same time, the agency noted that official comments from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation have not yet been received.

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  1. alpamys
    alpamys 30 March 2016 12: 22
    +18
    EW turn on
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 30 March 2016 12: 27
      +19
      Quote: alpamys
      EW turn on

      Quote: dr.star75
      And why didn't the "onsamupal" be done?

      and where is it written that he violated the border?
      The interlocutor noted at the same time that "the aircraft clearly followed the intended trajectory and kept from the border of the Crimea at a distance of a little more than 10 km."

      Maybe it's too early to get a saber? )))
      1. cniza
        cniza 30 March 2016 12: 29
        +22
        Quote: alpamys
        EW turn on


        He was just waiting for this, you can’t open without a real threat.
        1. neo.
          neo. 30 March 2016 12: 35
          +10
          Yes, everything is clearly worked out.
          the Russian interceptor, who accompanied him “throughout the route that ran along the borders of the peninsula”
          They showed that we easily find them, and if you step to the left, then - the lid! soldier
        2. Thrall
          Thrall 30 March 2016 12: 37
          +5
          It's time to check on the Crimean military gulls drones)
        3. Yasha Gypsy
          Yasha Gypsy 30 March 2016 12: 44
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          Quote: alpamys
          EW turn on


          He was just waiting for this, you can’t open without a real threat.

          That's right. This is another test of how many there were and will be another God knows. The main thing was shown that we see him. At the same time, the pilot also trained.
          1. Mainbeam
            Mainbeam 30 March 2016 13: 12
            +10
            Quote: Yashka Gypsy
            how many were there

            Yes, there were a lot of things. It's time and put a couple of RQ-4, as previously U-2
            .
          2. 4ekist
            4ekist 30 March 2016 22: 15
            0
            There is no particular problem in target detection and tracking like the RQ-4. The main thing is to "soak" in a timely manner, if a violation of the state. borders.
        4. Tusv
          Tusv 30 March 2016 12: 48
          -4
          Quote: cniza
          He was just waiting for this, you can’t open without a real threat.

          12 km in radius, and along an arc in the area of ​​at least 70 km in our airspace? This is a real flight of our air defense
        5. lelikas
          lelikas 30 March 2016 12: 56
          +1
          The main thing is that they were fixed on time - and a well-fixed patient does not need anesthesia!
          It’s a pity that you don’t send yours in return ...
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      3. 79807420129
        79807420129 30 March 2016 12: 33
        +12
        Quote: dr.star75
        And why didn't the "onsamupal" be done?

        Now, if he flew into our territory, then he would have fallen himself, but did not fly after all.
      4. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 30 March 2016 12: 46
        +1
        So we can do whatever we want on our territory. Fly 1 km away from it but on our side of the border and "test" electronic warfare. If it falls in neutral waters, what have we to do with it? We carried out tests of our system and on our territory.
      5. alpamys
        alpamys 30 March 2016 13: 26
        -4
        Quote: Scoun

        Maybe it's too early to get a saber? )))


        There is a version that the crash of the Sukhoi SuperJet-100 aircraft in Indonesia on May 9, 2012 was arranged by amers, the plane flew just above their base and electronic warfare was used.
        1. Forest
          Forest 30 March 2016 14: 02
          -3
          EW can not bring down a plane. Signal too weak.
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 April 2 2016 12: 41
            0
            Quote: Forest
            Signal too weak.


            Why did "Cook" shit? And on good terms, it was necessary to intercept control and bring him to his excursion with a subsequent autopsy.
      6. dauria
        dauria 30 March 2016 15: 49
        +2
        and where is it written that he violated the border?


        Well, there are amazing laws on drones (more precisely, they are not due to the United States) - if it flies in, then immediately "nobody's", no one is responsible for it. I suppose it's okay to shiban him, too. What are the claims if the rocket is also a "drone"? Well, two drones collided, which never happens. request
      7. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 30 March 2016 22: 19
        0
        Quote: Scoun
        and where is it written that he violated the border?



        And where does it say that you need to bring down?


        Bug, he fell ... wink
    2. Bulrumeb
      Bulrumeb 30 March 2016 12: 29
      +2
      EW turn on


      So there was no reason, because he walked 10 km. from the border. I remember when last year the UAV violated the border, then they acted with it accordingly
    3. 341712
      341712 30 March 2016 12: 30
      +3
      Quote: alpamys
      Alpamys (1) Today, 12: 22 New
      EW turn on

      We don’t have it ... there .. CESNA!))))
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 30 March 2016 12: 43
      0
      And what to fix it? Turn on the electronic warfare and sit down to yourself. And there is an interrogation with prejudice - what did they say, sir, lost or got lost at our borders, my dear? laughing
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 30 March 2016 14: 23
        +5
        Quote: siberalt
        And there interrogation with predilection - what they say, sir, lost at our borders

        This will be the first in the history of aviation QUESTION OF AUTOPILOT!
        I think it's time to fix priorities !!! bully
      2. Alex_59
        Alex_59 30 March 2016 15: 46
        +1
        Quote: siberalt
        Turn on the electronic warfare and sit down to yourself.

        How can UAVs be planted with the help of electronic warfare equipment? It would be interesting to learn more about such technology on the brink of science fiction.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 30 March 2016 16: 01
          +1
          Quote: Alex_59
          How can UAVs be planted with the help of electronic warfare equipment? It would be interesting to learn more about such technology on the brink of science fiction.

          In Iran, I planted one or two UAVs using an electronic warfare system.
          1. Alex_59
            Alex_59 30 March 2016 19: 47
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            In Iran, I planted one or two UAVs using an electronic warfare system.

            This is an exclusively journalistic delusional duck. They also wrote that the Avtobaza 1L222 complex was used for this. This is a passive electronic warfare system for determining the frequencies and bearing of radiation sources. This electronic warfare cannot and should not perform any interception of control of the UAV.
            http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-598.html
    6. Blondy
      Blondy 30 March 2016 14: 30
      -2
      At the same time, the agency noted that official comments from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation have not yet been received.

      Well, if there were no comments from the Defense Ministry, it means that the interceptor had Khibiny, and most likely worked, though not to the fullest, the main thing is to fly back - it’s inconvenient to mine over foreign territory
    7. Alex_59
      Alex_59 30 March 2016 15: 35
      +5
      Quote: alpamys
      EW turn on

      Damn, people, you have electronic warfare - this is such a mysterious "witchcraft", "shaitan-arba", which is not clear how, but somehow jamming all electronics. What nafig "turn on electronic warfare"? Electronic warfare is jamming, what is there to jam? Such scouts fly the other way around in order to track the frequencies and characteristics of the signals emitted from the ground, and that is what intelligence is. The sources of radiation of air defense radars, communication channels (if they are not narrowly focused), their capabilities, coverage area are identified, their location on the ground is determined. All this is then put on the maps by NATO members and can get an accurate reference on the ground of the positions of air defense systems, radio stations, etc. Flying along the border, the UAV listens stupidly, does not emit anything - what is there to interfere with? To disguise the whole Crimea with dipoles and IR traps?
    8. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 30 March 2016 22: 18
      -1
      Quote: alpamys
      EW turn on


      Eh ... Ahead ... belay
  2. dr.star75
    dr.star75 30 March 2016 12: 23
    +7
    And why didn't the "onsamupal" be done?
    1. Tusv
      Tusv 30 March 2016 12: 56
      -1
      Quote: dr.star75
      And why didn't the "onsamupal" be done?

      Really. The fact of violation of the border for 12 km is obvious. In Crimea, the Shells are deployed. Well, as a last resort, they would say that "Boars" were launched for Shells. Well missed Well
  3. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 30 March 2016 12: 25
    +20
    A Russian interceptor flew to meet the drone
  4. Koresh
    Koresh 30 March 2016 12: 28
    +2
    Something towards the Crimea is being pulled together by troops, there was news that a column passed from BM-21 in Kherson to the borders.
    Or just to strengthen shock groups or to exercises.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 30 March 2016 12: 40
      +2
      Quote: Koresh
      Something towards the Crimea is being pulled together by troops, there was news that a column passed from BM-21 in Kherson to the borders.
      Or just to strengthen shock groups or to exercises.

      So I now wrote a lot, in a neighboring branch http://topwar.ru/93132-pentagon-i-gosdep-srochno-evakuiruyut-iz-turcii-semi-svoi

      h-sotrudnikov.html # comment-id-5732687 about the fact that America seems to be some kind of Pearl Harbor in Turkey ... Somehow, all this conjures up thoughts of dry powder and a sufficient number of rounds ...
    2. NC1982
      NC1982 30 March 2016 12: 43
      +1
      Blow up supports, water utilities, bridges, shelling roads. In general, FRAUD. Everything is as usual.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 March 2016 12: 28
    +1
    Lost by accident? It was necessary to "help" the drone to make a hard landing to smithereens! laughing
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 March 2016 13: 16
      +2
      Quote: aszzz888
      Lost by accident? It was necessary to "help" the drone to make a hard landing to smithereens! laughing

      I don’t think I’m lost. Mattresses collect intelligence, monitor the situation, which is not surprising. I believe this UAV was led not only by an interceptor, but also by Krasukha-type electronic warfare systems, without affecting it, but "holding a finger on a hook."
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 30 March 2016 20: 37
        +1
        that's why it would have cost him neatly, "he himself fell" even in neutral waters.
  6. Pavel Tsybai
    Pavel Tsybai 30 March 2016 12: 29
    +3
    Here the mattresses are impatient, I really want to know what Russia in Crimea placed for gifts to them.
  7. Const
    Const 30 March 2016 12: 29
    +3
    It was necessary to plant it at home, take a selfie, and return it in parts. Like with MIG-25 in Japan.
    1. cap
      cap 30 March 2016 12: 38
      +4
      Quote: Const
      It was necessary to plant it at home, take a selfie, and return it in parts. Like with MIG-25 in Japan.
      Iran


      The Iranians landed an American (photo), and returned a plastic toy, to Obama's demand to return American property.
      True, he flew over Iranian territory.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 30 March 2016 12: 49
        +3
        It was possible to return the plaster copy. Or even carve in granite, and glue 2-3 strasses on the skin.
        1. cap
          cap 30 March 2016 12: 54
          +4
          Quote: abrakadabre
          It was possible to return the plaster copy. Or even carve in granite, and glue 2-3 strasses on the skin.


          "Everything is like a good joke:" The enemy insidiously attacked us when we peacefully bombed his cities "...
          As you know, back in December 2011, Iran managed to capture the latest American unmanned aerial vehicle "RQ-170 Sentinel", which was spying over the eastern part of the country. The US authorities, represented by President Barack Obama, expressed concern and "asked" to return the expensive top-secret equipment. There was information that even the possibility of a special operation, with the participation of special forces, to free the UAV was considered ... Iran, in turn, "making concessions" returned the lost UAV to the United States, only in the form of a plastic model made on a scale of 1:80. The model is painted pink, Obama's favorite color, and was handed over to the president through the Swiss embassy. In Iran, such RQ-170 Sentinel UAVs have been on sale since February 1, 2012, and the cost is about $ 4 per unit. " laughing
          http://www.militarists.ru/?p=6967
          1. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 30 March 2016 13: 07
            0
            Nah ... Better made of granite and life-size. Directly to the gates of the embassy and drag. And there let them do what they want with this block.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 30 March 2016 12: 49
      +9
      Quote: Const
      It was necessary to plant it at home, take a selfie, and return it in parts. Like with MIG-25 in Japan.

      Add "intelligence" to him ...
  8. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 30 March 2016 12: 31
    0
    These devices fly everywhere. It is very positive that they spotted, got up to intercept and escorted. Surely they put something (interference), they caught something themselves .. Just like in the USSR.
  9. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 30 March 2016 12: 33
    -2
    They play on the nerves.
  10. nemec55
    nemec55 30 March 2016 12: 35
    0
    A Russian interceptor flew to the drone meeting, who accompanied him "throughout the route that ran along the borders of the peninsula," the report said.

    It turns out costs
    the escort of this humanoid is more than that of the <partners>. It is necessary to make parity, for example, to train our bees with a grinder so that the feathers would be sawed for him even on the way.
    1. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 30 March 2016 12: 57
      +1
      It turns out costs
      the escort of this humanoid is more than that of the <partners>. It is necessary to make parity, for example, to train our bees with a grinder so that the feathers would be sawed for him even on the way.


      sorry for the bees - they bring honey ... but we have a lot of ravens, can they chip them? to catch drones wassat the plane flew by, and from it a flock of ravens, they put the drone on its wings, and it fell! any claims to us? nature... laughing
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 March 2016 12: 35
    +1
    the aircraft "is on the balance sheet of the US Armed Forces."

    And who else besides the United States, well, still Turkey. The routine work of various departments of a certain affiliation. Not the first and not the last case. At the same time, we trained. So, so far everything is within the permissible limits.
  12. Tusv
    Tusv 30 March 2016 12: 36
    0
    The interlocutor noted at the same time that "the aircraft clearly followed the intended trajectory and kept from the border of the Crimea at a distance of a little more than 10 km."

    A little over 10 km is the entrance to the air border of Russia for a little less than 12 km.
    "Guilty of death", not accompanied. 12-mile border of sea waters (22 250 m) has not yet been canceled
  13. RUSIVAN
    RUSIVAN 30 March 2016 12: 38
    +3
    On the Russian border in the Crimea recorded an American drone
    Maybe he flew for Russian citizenship, but then he won’t let me know ...
  14. vanavatny
    vanavatny 30 March 2016 12: 40
    +2
    I hope you heard a lot about yourself soldier
  15. Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy 30 March 2016 12: 40
    +3
    So our Bulgarian "friends" show under whom the straw rustles.
  16. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 30 March 2016 12: 41
    0
    gasp on it with a powerful electromagnetic pulse and no traces of attack will be found
    1. alpamys
      alpamys 30 March 2016 12: 47
      0
      Quote: seregatara1969
      gasp on it with a powerful electromagnetic pulse and no traces of attack will be found


      that's it good , they disabled Russian satellites over their territory.
  17. SMikhalych
    SMikhalych 30 March 2016 12: 42
    +1
    Oh, to hack his shirts in parallel courses and put him in the Crimea. good And then all the media will grin that the American UAV has asked for political asylum from Russia lol
  18. krops777
    krops777 30 March 2016 12: 45
    +1
    It was necessary to carry out a "Dangerous maneuver", turn on the electronic warfare and simulate 10 attacks and raise another screech of the Americans. wink
  19. askort154
    askort154 30 March 2016 12: 46
    0
    Of course, you cannot shoot down, plant. He walked 10 km. from our border. But next time, if you appear, you have to be ready to "erase all his old". Actually, who will say, maybe he left "empty" even now.
    It is also good that they saw the number for 10 km and the belonging, than they showed - "everything is under control"!
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 30 March 2016 12: 57
      +2
      Quote: askort154
      But next time, if you appear, you have to be ready to "erase all his old"

      When the device transmits data in real time (as mentioned in the video), then "Formatting a flash drive" is useless. But you can try to hack brains to stop transferring data, but this is for specialists winked
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 30 March 2016 15: 58
        -1
        Quote: SMikhalych
        But you can try hacking your brains to stop the data transfer, but this is for specialists

        It's impossible. UAVs either make an autonomous flight without exchanging with the operator at all, or fly under the control of the operator through a narrowly directed communication channel. Such a channel is organized with the help of radio relay transponders in the role of which are either communication spacecraft or relay aircraft. The narrow focus of the radio control channel eliminates its remote interception or distortion. It is necessary that the source of interference or means of intercepting the communication channel are located on the UAV-AES line. As you might imagine, there is simply nothing to hang between the UAV and the satellite - there are no such means. Well, in addition, the encoding methods of such communication lines almost completely exclude the possibility of introducing themselves into them. And in the event of a loss of communication, the UAV will fly autonomously according to the plan and, as a result, will fly to the departure airport without the help of people.
  20. opus
    opus 30 March 2016 12: 50
    +11
    Quote: Author
    According to the channel, the drone's tail number is 3412 - was pierced by the military international database. It turned out that the aircraft "Is on the balance sheet of the US Armed Forces»

    "broken"
    "international database"
    "on the USAIF balance" ...
    WHAT IS THAT.
    1.No international database
    2.USAIF UAV labeled SIX-digit number
    Northrop Grumman MQ-4C Triton BuNo 168457



    Northrop Grumman / EADS RQ-4E EuroHawk 99 + 01 (BuNoEHS001)
    NASA UAVs are marked with 3 digits.

    EuroHavk of the Luftwaffe is marked 4-digit, well, can you tell the Germans from the Americans?


    3.If already
    Quote: Author
    the Russian interceptor, who accompanied him “throughout the route that ran along the borders of the peninsula”
    flew closer to him 10 km (otherwise he would not have seen), then he could take a selfie (with w / n) at the worst "end" ...

    Conclusion: LifeNews has a very dumb journalist ... the first generation of USE victims?

    and the author of the article at least used (in the article) not a RQ-4A photo (with Block 10 - only 16 UAVs were built, which were decommissioned in 2011 .....
    1. Shpagolom
      Shpagolom 30 March 2016 13: 14
      +6
      [.

      Conclusion: LifeNews has a very dumb journalist ... the first generation of USE victims?

      and the author of the article at least used (in the article) not a RQ-4A photo (with Block 10 - only 16 UAVs were built, which were decommissioned in 2011 ..... [/ quote]


      Yes, they are not dumb, they just really want them (the journalists) to be the first in coverage of events .... grabbing likes .... fucking lycophiles!
      1. opus
        opus 30 March 2016 15: 26
        +3
        Quote: Shpagolom
        magazineI will publish

        I liked it, +
        The fourth power, the second profession, the oldest




        Very similar to:
  21. Gunther
    Gunther 30 March 2016 12: 52
    +1
    It was necessary to "drop" it, and then express regret to the "partners" - they say, why do you have unmanned aerial vehicles falling by themselves)
  22. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 30 March 2016 12: 52
    0
    What prevents Russia from answering the same? ...
  23. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 March 2016 12: 57
    +4
    Of course, Americans are pumping ... But so far there are no formal reasons to shoot down and land.
    It’s like with our strategists, who also fly along the borders.
    So they found, accompanied, quite a working situation.
  24. VP
    VP 30 March 2016 13: 03
    0
    If we tracked the entire route starting from Bulgaria, then the air defense in the Crimea is fine.
    Reconnaissance UAVs are at least one and a half to two times smaller than conventional combat aircraft and with the large use of composite materials that reduce radio stealth. Those. if you copied it in Bulgaria then it’s easier to draw an airplane.
    Oops, it is - according to Wikipedia, it is inferior in length to the F-15 one and a half times and wings from composites
    1. opus
      opus 30 March 2016 13: 13
      0
      Quote: VP
      If we tracked the entire route starting from Bulgaria, then the air defense in the Crimea is fine.


      From Varna to Crimea on the earth 1120km

      The average time of sea passage from Ilyichevsk to Varna is 18 hours (22-25 nodal) is about 700-800km

      What air defense radar tracked?

      In Crimea, "Pantsir" and S-300PMU (Detection Range - 300km; target type F-16)

      ?
      "tracked" by blunt LifeNews journalists
      Quote: VP
      Ops, t

      exactly
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 30 March 2016 13: 55
        +1
        Quote: opus
        What air defense radar tracked?
        In Crimea, "Pantsir" and S-300PMU (detection range - 300 km; target type F-16)

        Our air defense system monitors the launch of an Israeli missile from a submarine in the Mediterranean Sea. What is the difference Don or Voronezh goal tracked? Sky m is also not frail characteristics. So on the s-300 the siren is howling already on take-off of the f-16. At least 100 km to visibility
        1. opus
          opus 30 March 2016 14: 17
          +2
          Quote: Tusv
          Our air defense system monitors the launch of an Israeli missile from a submarine in the Mediterranean Sea

          1.Not air defense, but SPRN
          2. Fixed only 40 seconds, not hours
          3.Black sparrow is still not a UAV, but an IMMITTER of a ballistic missile, and the heights there are MORE

          4.and not with submarines
          Quote: Tusv
          What is the difference to you

          It makes no difference to me that 1941 would not happen again!
          I don’t want a repeat (our country can’t stand it)

          and fools, propaganda journalists do not even cook this meat. And huskies (ratings) earn.
          Such messages are designed for uneducated people, illiterate people and concocted.

          Quote: Tusv
          Don or Voronezh

          these will not take such a goal, "I give a grudge"
          Quote: Tusv
          Sky m is also not frail characteristics.

          and there (in Crimea) there is 55ZH6M? Well, or 55ZH6?

          Well, for reference (for 55ZH6):
          Fighter target detection range (F-16): on 20 km altitude - up to 400 km; on high 500 m - up to 65 km.

          Quote: Tusv
          So on the s-300 the siren is howling already on take-off of the f-16. At least 100 km to visibility

          ?
          I do not understand!
          Operated S-300PS, several times sat in the cockpit F-16.
          nothing howls there for 100km
          Threat and "visibility" at 100 km will not be, even by the OES Electro-Optical Targeting System

          1. Tusv
            Tusv 30 March 2016 15: 18
            0
            Quote: opus
            I do not understand!
            Operated S-300PS, several times sat in the cockpit F-16.

            Oops. During the 15 months of my combat duty, neither the TR-1 (modernized U-2) nor the CR -135, no American came closer than 100 km to our border. Little of! On Mondays, no flights of the US Air Force near our borders ..
            Did you really sit in the f-16 cockpit? He is single. That is, you are the enemy of all air defense
            1. opus
              opus 30 March 2016 16: 28
              -1
              Quote: Tusv
              In the 15 months of my combat duty, neither the TR-1 (upgraded U-2) and CR -135 not a single American flew closer than 100 km to our border.

              1. They did not fly up (100), not only during "your combat duty", for a long time already "did not fly up", with the C-75x
              2.And what is CR -135?
              3.and where could you "see" the U-2R?
              Locations of U-2

              INC:

              Quote: Tusv
              On Mondays, no flights of the US Air Force near our borders ..

              why so? "Black Monday"? or were they afraid of the hangover syndrome of our air defense?
              Quote: Tusv
              Did you really sit in the f-16 cockpit? He is single

              1. So I sat ONE.
              Sitting doesn’t mean flying
              2.
              F-16I - Double Block 52 Option
              F-16B is the same double


              Royal Moroccan Air Force F-16D is the same double


              The Azerbaijani Air Force also has "kopeck pieces"


              1. opus
                opus 30 March 2016 16: 32
                0
                Anyway ...








                Quote: Tusv
                That is, you are the enemy of all air defense

                Yes, exactly! But THEIR (NATO) air defense
              2. gjkrjdybr50
                gjkrjdybr50 30 March 2016 20: 24
                0
                Not CR-135, but RC-135 strategic aircraft - U.S. Air Force reconnaissance
                1. opus
                  opus 30 March 2016 23: 43
                  0
                  Quote: gjkrjdybr50
                  Not CR-135, but RC-135 strategic aircraft - U.S. Air Force reconnaissance

                  Are you talking to me?
                  but I didn’t write
                  Quote: Tusv
                  и CR -135 not a single American


                  believe me, I know what the RC-135 is


                  (in this photo RC-135U "Combat Sent")

                  And they fly, and closer than 100km, and on Mondays (
                  Quote: Tusv
                  On Mondays, no flights of the US Air Force near our borders ..
                  ) also


                  RC-135U: code - AE01D5, the aircraft flight number (64-14849) and the call sign (TELEX97).
                  April 2015
      2. VP
        VP 30 March 2016 14: 08
        0
        Quote: opus
        In Crimea, "Pantsir" and S-300PMU (detection range - 300 km; target type F-16)

        I did not say anything about them.
        If you were led, for example, Voronezh which stands in Armavir.
        Sevastopol seems to have upgraded the Dnieper beyond the horizon, I don’t know at what stage it is.
        There was talk about "Sunflower"
        1. opus
          opus 30 March 2016 14: 26
          +1
          Quote: VP
          If you were led, for example, Voronezh which stands in Armavir.

          This is an early warning system, they are not "interested" in the UAV, and they will not be able to
          Quote: VP
          Sevastopol seems to have upgraded the Dnieper beyond the horizon

          the RO-4 node will be revived, at best, by the end of 2016 (and that is unlikely)

          and this is SPRN (he will not take such a goal under his nose)

          Quote: VP
          There was talk about "Sunflower"

          in the Caspian Sea and near Vladivostok. (UP TO 200km)
        2. Alex_59
          Alex_59 30 March 2016 15: 24
          0
          Quote: VP
          If you were led, for example, Voronezh which stands in Armavir.
          Sevastopol seems to have upgraded the Dnieper beyond the horizon, I don’t know at what stage it is.
          There was talk about "Sunflower"

          Hint - the earth is round. For these radars, even if they wanted to monitor air targets, the UAV in the Varna region at an altitude of 10 km is out of sight, i.e. below the level of the radio horizon.
          1. VP
            VP 30 March 2016 16: 07
            +1
            Check out "over-the-horizon radar"
            1. Alex_59
              Alex_59 30 March 2016 19: 41
              0
              Quote: VP
              Check out "over-the-horizon radar"

              Yes, I read for 5 years at the university, I still remember something. Over-the-horizon radars, as well as over-the-horizon communications facilities, are exclusively centimeter-sized, built on the refraction of radio waves in the troposphere, the so-called "waveguide" propagation. Such radars have a very narrow application in maritime target designation (RLC Titanit, Monolith, Harpoon) exclusively for ships and above the water surface, where the heterogeneity of the air in height creates good conditions for creating a waveguide. I do not know of a radar of this type for detecting air targets.
      3. viktorR
        viktorR 30 March 2016 15: 01
        -2
        Oh well, and you don’t take reconnaissance and target designation radars into account? For example, some 55ZH6M
        1. opus
          opus 30 March 2016 15: 19
          -2
          Quote: viktorR
          Yah,

          well yes.
          I take it.
          The structure of the S-300PMU-1 system includes:

          anti-aircraft missile system (SAM) 90ZH6E comprising:
          multifunctional radar of illumination and guidance 30N6E;
          up to 12 launchers 5P85SE on the MAZ-547 self-propelled chassis or 5P85TE on the KrAZ-260 road train with four missiles each.
          topper 1T12M2;
          means of technical operation and storage of missiles (22T6E loading vehicle, 5T58E transport vehicle);
          anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAM) 48N6E
          40V6M tower for RPN 30N6E;
          low-altitude detector 76H6;
          technical support equipment (diesel power plants, 13YU6E repair laboratory, spare parts sets).
          The combat operation of the S-300PMU1 air defense system is provided when controlled from the 83M6E controls, the Senezh-ME, Baikal-13 automated systems, or autonomously.

          High firing efficiency is ensured through the use of several types of information tools in the system:

          high-potential radar for target detection at medium and high altitudes (RLO) 64N6E - is part of SU 83M6E;
          specialized radar for detecting low-altitude targets (HBO) 76N6, which has a high degree of protection against reflections of the earth's surface;
          30N6E1 highly automated multi-functional missile illumination and guidance radar (RPN), capable of simultaneously searching for targets independently or as directed by a combat control center (PBU) 54K6E, which is part of 83M6E control tools.


          and where does RTR and TSU?
          Quote: viktorR
          For example, some 55ZH6M

          and he is?

          will he "get it"?


          1. viktorR
            viktorR 30 March 2016 16: 44
            -2
            Exactly, yes. 300 and 400km are two big differences. In general, funds may or may not be. you claim that they are not (indirectly of course). In short, minus you for verbiage :)!
            1. opus
              opus 30 March 2016 16: 52
              0
              Quote: viktorR
              300 and 400km - two big differences

              "one F ***, another tease." YES?
              LOOK AT THE ALTITUDES (and connect in mind with the range of DETECTION, but not tracking)!
              And on the EPR goals, the same.
              everything will become clear
              +
              Their (Sky) in Crimea -NOT
              Quote: viktorR
              In general, funds may or may not be. you claim that they are not (indirectly of course).

              Well so and refute! what is the problem? give an example, sho is.
              You are not far there (judging by the flag)
              Quote: viktorR
              verbiage

              Yes?

              Quote: viktorR
              In short, minus you for verbiage :)!

              Well, to you for stupidity and Butthurtism.
              Do not discourage.
      4. VP
        VP 30 March 2016 16: 30
        0
        But why do you need to know the distance to Varna by land?
        1. opus
          opus 30 March 2016 16: 39
          0
          Quote: VP
          But why do you need to know the distance to Varna by land?

          suddenly come in handy wink

          I gave by the sea (it's almost in a straight line).
          Quote: VP
          Check out "over-the-horizon radar"


          Arc (radar; since 1980; 3 copies.) - Operation ended in 1986, 1989 and 1991.
          Taurus (250 km; 1999)
          Wave (3000 km; from the beginning of the 90s)
          Sunflower (450 km; since the early 2000s; surface wave radar)
          Lagoon (Coastal radar, surface wave radar)
          "Container" 29B6 (3000 km, NII DAR since 2013)
          .... THIS is an SPRN, as a rule (torch launching ICBMs).
          They will not "take" UAVs, and they will not even look there (what kind of ICBMs are there in this part of the Black Sea? From mamalizha romania?)


          ZY.node RO-4 -DESTROYED (Remove Crimea from the picture, and it won't "take" at such a distance, it's too close)
  25. Tusv
    Tusv 30 March 2016 13: 08
    -1
    Quote: Zomanus
    But so far there are no formal reasons to shoot down and land.

    12 km invasion of our airspace. This is not a formal, but a real excuse for destruction. "We will accept the equipment" and all our points up to 500 km are also with him.
    1. opus
      opus 30 March 2016 13: 59
      0
      Quote: Tusv
      12 kilometer invasion of our airspace

      yes laaadnAAA! ???
      Have you even read the article?


      Quote: Posted by & LifeNews
      The interlocutor noted at the same time that “the aircraft clearly followed the intended trajectory and kept from the Crimean border at a distance of just over 10 km».

      Quote: Tusv
      We will accept the equipment "and all our points up to 500 km are also with him.


      A radar with SA Hughes in the best case provides a radar image of the area with a resolution of 1 meter at a distance of 200 km .... per day of fruitful work.


      SAR / MTI radar is even worse: a resolution of 1,8 meters in the territory of 10 square meters. km up to 100km, same time required
      Optics and IR ...


      HISAR (Hughes Integrated Surveillance & Reconnaissance) is still not ASARS-2 (U-2), in my opinion there are Canon digital cameras

      -------------------------------
      I’ll reassure you: any regular airline civilian aircraft equipped with RSA and RTR OES

      flying on a regular route, over the Crimea will take off more
  26. atamankko
    atamankko 30 March 2016 13: 43
    0
    Curious, these "exceptional", want to know everything about Crimea.
  27. 8140
    8140 30 March 2016 13: 51
    0
    I hope that in about 10 years, we’ll start this in a series. And then the backlog of drones will soon become a joke;).
    I remember in the 2000s we didn’t need to discuss ... And now in 2016, there’s not one long-range and striking one in the series. For what people receive a salary, I can’t understand
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 30 March 2016 15: 06
      0
      And what is more important to us now, a new aircraft with a trained pilot or a new drone with an operator? Did they make the SU-34, put it into production, but is the filling very different from the drone in complexity? So we drone the drone no worse, if necessary.
      1. Alex_59
        Alex_59 30 March 2016 15: 27
        +2
        Quote: Canecat
        So we drone the drone no worse, if necessary.

        It reminds me of something. Little blood, on foreign territory, in two weeks ...
  28. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 30 March 2016 14: 02
    0
    aileron into it on a ram. business then))) wink
  29. Phosgene
    Phosgene 30 March 2016 14: 18
    +1
    It is necessary to conduct military training, with a temporary partial mobilization of reserve officers of air defense units and deploy additional air defense systems. The situation is complicated and such exercises, in my opinion, would not be superfluous.
  30. In100gram
    In100gram 30 March 2016 15: 06
    0
    What they wanted, then ran into it. Detected already well. No invisibility
  31. Gunther
    Gunther 30 March 2016 18: 16
    0
    Quote: Zomanus
    Of course, Americans are pumping ... But so far there are no formal reasons to shoot down and land.
    It’s like with our strategists, who also fly along the borders.
    So they found, accompanied, quite a working situation.

    At one time, they "tracked" U-2, but it was worth shooting down and the need for "tracking" disappeared, this demonstrative flight check, give slack - will begin to fly overhead.
    As for the Tu-160 flights, in response to the downed drone shooting down missile carriers will be difficult, because:
    "V. Putin called on other countries to
    understanding this, noting that,
    having refused unilaterally in 1992 from flights, Russia did not see similar actions from its partners. This state of affairs, according to the President of the Russian Federation, has created a number of problems in ensuring the security of Russia, so flights will be resumed again.
    We add that the flights will be carried out in interaction with fighter aircraft,
    Su-27 aircraft and airborne early warning and control aircraft
    aviation A-50, noted in the Ministry of Defense. "
    PS
    However, if Gutalin calls to treat with understanding, then you can not bring down.
  32. gjkrjdybr50
    gjkrjdybr50 30 March 2016 18: 58
    0
    Do you need any RTVshnik in the discussion? If not, let me interfere. Radars are divided into many types. On hearing constantly radar early warning systems such as Voronezh, Dnepr, etc., but these are specialized radars for detecting ballistic objects and they essentially cannot detect aerodynamic targets such as an airplane, a drone, etc. RTV - radio technical troops. RTV has many tasks, but one of them, perhaps the main one, is the conduct of radar reconnaissance in order to timely reveal the strike of enemy air assets on the territory, administrative and industrial centers, state control points, command posts of the Armed Forces and troops. For this purpose, part of the forces and means of RTV is on alert. The subunits carrying the database are armed with airspace reconnaissance radars. Groupings of subunits create a radar field with these radars - an area of ​​airspace within which it is possible to detect air targets with a given probability by at least one subdivision of the group. These radars have characteristics according to App. mostly equal to or close to Dradiogorzonta. This range is roughly equal to about 10-320 km at an altitude of 360 km. The higher the target, the more Dobn. Take a compass, in accordance with the scale, open it to 340 km. and from the radar station, draw an arc in the direction of the enemy. For example, from Evpatoria and see at what distance the target will be detected. The calculation is rough, because there are much more components. All the rest of the chatter is from ignorance and "cleverness" and has nothing to do with the truth. With komprivet, RTVeshnik with 35 years of experience.
  33. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 30 March 2016 23: 10
    0
    And why wasn’t it drowned out by some electronic warfare device? He would have fallen off himself! Yes, and a rocket could be shandarahnut. Well, he fell and he fell, who will understand why.
  34. Siberia M 54
    Siberia M 54 31 March 2016 06: 00
    0
    Something he is somehow dumb ...