Media: The fact that Russia has spent in Syria, with interest will pay off new contracts

The results of the antiterrorist operation in Syria will be not only political dividends, but also the economic benefits that military contracts can bring to Russia, writes Ivan Kaferman's special correspondent. Article leads RIA News.

According to the author's calculations, "in addition to the 33 billion rubles already spent on the Syrian campaign, about ten billion will have to be invested in the repair of aircraft and replenishment of the arsenal." But even this amount, the estimated income from new armory contracts will be covered with interest.

According to sources of the publication, the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation has already received a lot of orders, and, in the first place, potential buyers are interested in aircraft technology.

“In December, 2015 from Algeria received an application for 12 Su-32 bombers. Algeria also requested the Su-35C fighter for testing. The pilots were pleased with the plane, and soon the African country could place a new order, the amount of which could reach one and a half billion dollars, ”the article says.

In addition, Algeria is purchasing X-NUMX Mi-40HE helicopters. This transaction is valued at approximately $ 28 million.

According to the author, "Indonesia, Vietnam and Pakistan are interested in Su-35 fighters." In the case of Vietnam and Indonesia, we are talking about amounts of more than a billion. Pakistan’s requests are more modest, but they will bring about $ 500 million.

According to sources, “after the appearance on the network of a video on which the armor tank The T-90 withstood the hit from the TOW ATGM, the demand for an armored car can also grow. ” Potential customers include Iraq, Iran and the CIS countries.

Many countries were also interested in the C-400 complex that appeared in Syria. For example, Saudi Arabia showed a keen interest in these weapons, and India intensified negotiations. The supply of complexes to these countries alone will bring about $ 4 billion.

"Only by approximate calculations, Russia can get contracts worth about six to seven billion dollars, which is ten times more than the cost of the military campaign in Syria," the author concludes.

Comments

[Kalmar]

The main thing is that the contracts bring real profit, and not as usual: they give a loan of ..tyam lyam, the equipment is shipped for this loan, and then the loan is forgiven.

[cniza]

Quote: Kalmar

The main thing is that the contracts bring real profit, and not as usual: they give a loan of ..tyam lyam, the equipment is shipped for this loan, and then the loan is forgiven.

It is difficult to disagree, but there will also be civilian projects that will pay for the operation in Syria.

[Kalmar]

Quote: cniza

but there will also be civilian projects that will pay for the operation in Syria

It is doubtful that civilian projects will work normally in a country that is in fact waging a large-scale war on its territory (I recall that government troops still control only a small part of Syria). So if they pay for something, it’s very, very soon.

[Pereira]

So we returned the loan, and then bought them American securities with zero income. And what is better than non-refund?

[Kalmar]

Quote: Pereira

So we returned the loan, and then bought them American securities with zero income. And what is better than non-refund?

The fact that some of the funds returned nevertheless has a chance to reach the plant and its hard workers. And so yes, buying up American bonds is a sore subject, it does not lend itself to logical explanation: consider that we directly finance our kind of enemy. As if paying tribute to the occupiers, indeed.

[bobba94]

You are a pessimist. Russia is not even included in the top ten countries of investors in American securities (as of January 20.01.2016, 15 - 1th place). China has more than $ XNUMX trillion of US bonds, but the Chinese are optimistic. They call this trillion remote-controlled landmine, and partly right.

[Kalmar]

Quote: bobba94

You are a pessimist. Russia is not even included in the top ten countries of investors in American securities (as of January 20.01.2016, 15 - 1th place). China has more than $ XNUMX trillion of US bonds, but the Chinese are optimistic. They call this trillion remote-controlled landmine, and partly right.

I'm realist. The fact that Russia did not make it into the top ten in the "Throw some money for Uncle Sam" contest is somehow not very interesting to me. It is enough to understand that the Russian Federation is now investing in the US economy more than in its own (http://www.finanz.ru/novosti/obligatsii/cb-vlozhil-v-gosobligacii-ssha-polovinu
-byudzheta-rossii-1000864730, http://ria.ru/economy/20160316/1390576136.html).

As for the Chinese, can they really somehow hope to use their trillion as a land mine. But for now, a similar landmine has been tearing their heads off themselves: the USA is their main trading partner (a consumer of more than 60% of Chinese exports).

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Kalmar

The main thing is that the contracts bring real profit

Even the fact that our plants will be loaded with orders, and accordingly the number of jobs will increase, is already a huge plus for our military-industrial complex. New factories under construction will need to be provided with contracts, so this also touched the future.

[Kalmar]

Quote: SRC P-15

Even the fact that our plants will be loaded with orders, and accordingly the number of jobs will increase, is already a huge plus for our military-industrial complex.

It seems to be so, but after all, jobs just do not exist: workers want a salary. And if, in fact, real money does not come for the work done, then a strange situation arises as with the same Uralvagonzavod: it seems that there are orders, and the products are produced, and the company year after year is on the verge of bankruptcy.

[Scoun]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

and accordingly, the number of workers will increase

+ and do not forget about from quantity to quality ... the quality of work is lame and with a constant stream of work it will increase and the quality and new people will be trained.
(only the main thing is that it would not be about Chernomyrdin - they wanted the best, but it turned out as always and the management of the companies was not only concerned about their "parachutes" and bonuses, but also about the real growth of employees' salaries)

[13 warrior]

But this is so in Russian ...))
Unfortunately...
Now the Uzbek "brothers" are busy trying to raise money for the Russian Federation. And after all they succeed!

[Sid.74]

By the way, the rumors about Iskander in Syria were not rumors at all.
So I look, Turkish and Saudi politicians have silenced ....

Photos from Twitter Warfare Worldwide.

https://twitter.com/WarfareWW/status/714450681588002816

[Scoun]

Quote: Sid.74

By the way, the rumors about Iskander in Syria were not rumors at all.
So I look, Turkish and Saudi politicians have silenced ....

Photos from Twitter Warfare Worldwide.

https://twitter.com/WarfareWW/status/714450681588002816

It was laid out here yesterday.))
Dryunya2 (3) RU Yesterday, 20:52 ↑
Quote: Black
super prize
our people are "big-eyed", after all, they will disassemble everything before the frame winked
5.23 - 5.24 min / s
what a "beast" ? winked

There immediately after the take-off airplane))))

PS.
Sorry)) You posted this screen below. )))

[Ze Kot]

12 Su-32 aircraft estimated at around $ 500 million

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: The Cat

12 Su-32 aircraft estimated at around $ 500 million

I re-read it twice, but never found where you read it.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: The Cat

12 Su-32 aircraft estimated at around $ 500 million

I re-read it twice, but never found where you read it.

In the program on Life-News (if I am not mistaken) they talked about potential orders for aviation. They talked about the Su-32, about the Su-35 and S-400

[vodolaz]

Everyone was keenly interested in our weapons while the operation was in an active phase. Because no arms exhibition will show what a weapon can in real conditions.

[mashinist]

And what to give the Saudis interesting to them with 400 ... nonsense damn

[raid14]

Let's follow the path of the Americans? We will fight around the world, make money on blood, but what’s profitable.

[13 warrior]

Do not bend. This is not the Americans came up with. But all states use this experience. Look at it differently: we help strengthen the defense capabilities of countries with weak defense industries.

[raid14]

I look from the point of view of the author of the article, "you can warm your hands in a war", war is always a war under whatever slogans it is waged, and selling weapons to countries with a weak military-industrial complex can only be done by increasing its efficiency and competitiveness, otherwise they will not take it.

[Voha_krim]

Quote: raid14

Let's follow the path of the Americans?

In Syria, the rebels supported by the CIA destroyed the rebels supported by the Pentagon.
Clashes have intensified in Syria between anti-government rebels supported by the CIA and their "colleagues" assisted by the Pentagon, journalist Rick Moran writes on his American Thinker blog.

“If something shows how inept, futile and dangerous the policy of our president in Syria is, it’s just this almost comic clash between the militants who are preparing two different branches of our state security apparatus,” the author of the publication laments.

http://inosmi.info/amerikanskiy-zhurnalist-v-sirii-po-vine-obamy-skhlestnulis-ts
en-i-pentagon.html

[weksha50]

Quote: Voha_krim

Clashes have intensified in Syria between anti-government rebels supported by the CIA and their "colleagues" assisted by the Pentagon,

Hmm ... Well, in recent days the same thing has been happening in / in the Donbass ... Pravoseki and the APU are slowly kneading each other ...

But that's not the point...

The bottom line is that Russia has shown the strength of its weapons and the capabilities of its defense industry-military-industrial complex ... I hope that what is listed in the article is not the last buyers on the list, and also the list of weapons intended for purchase is not closed ...

[raid14]

To all who disagree with the comment and put their "fat" minus, are you, gentlemen, criticizing the United States for wars around the world, the supply and sale of weapons to regimes and groups unfriendly to Russia.
By participating in conflicts, the United States thereby makes real advertising for its weapons, providing good orders for its defense industry. And this is in no way consistent with your civic patriotic position and is called hypocrisy.

[Wild_grey_wolf]

Quote: raid14

Let's follow the path of the Americans? We will fight around the world, make money on blood, but what’s profitable.

MINUSES YOU DON'T PUT, your point of view has the right to this))) write without aggression.

Look, if they don’t buy from us, then in any case they’ll buy in another place, there’s no getting around this fact. WHY SEND THEN THE MARKETS THEREOF. . . so why don’t we and do not support our economy, and second, if our technology is there, then they will establish contacts with us, and in Russia, a policy of dialogue, rather than unleashing a warrior, will again result in more stability in that region. For me, there are so many pluses in Syria, there was coercion to peace, sobering of hot heads, coercion to open eyes to the fact that the world is MUCH POLAR without this anywhere. And you conclude that Russia behaves like AMERICA in every barrel. . . at least it’s not right, but they didn’t just do Coercion, but they came to the conclusion of the Benefit and acted as THEY, took the best example for WEAPONS and combined it with our method.

[L. A. A.]

When we fight for a just cause, and we will earn money.

[Altona]

Sign the contracts, then we'll see. And so, this is a memorandum. They write that 33 billion rubles were spent. Estimated sales of 450 billion rubles. But nevertheless, here zhezh, efficiency, and state-owned companies. And in our country, the government wants to push the last private owner, as if he did not know how effective.

[Stirbjorn]

Yes, the article doesn’t have memoranda, but just some interest - in fact, while the application from Algeria’s long-time partner for 10 Su-32s. That's all - the rest is speculation. Discuss them, become like grandmas in the yard on a bench. Moreover, the operation in Syria has not yet been completed

[Taygerus]

“Only by rough estimates, can Russia receive contracts worth about six to seven billion dollars, which is ten times the cost of a military campaign in Syria”

not everything in this world is measured in money and material means, there are other higher values

[andj61]

Quote: Taygerus

not everything in this world is measured in money and material means, there are other higher values

Totally agree!

Many countries were also interested in the C-400 complex that appeared in Syria. For example, Saudi Arabia showed a keen interest in these weapons, and India intensified negotiations. The supply of complexes to these countries alone will bring about $ 4 billion.

On a fig we provide KSA air defense?
What, has its air defense been provided in full with S-400 air defense systems? And our neighbor allies - Belarus, Kazakhstan, Armenia? And the allies, so to speak, of the second stage, as well as countries with which there are good relations - Iran, Vietnam, China, Cyprus, Syria, Greece, Cuba in the end, or the same Algeria and Venezuela? Why supply effective weapons to the Saudis, thereby strengthening them? After all, weapons and military equipment is not only business, it is also diplomacy, it is ensuring security and cooperation. In this regard, the Saudis always only promise us some goodies, but they never cooperated with us seriously, providing exclusively their own interests!

[tol100v]

Quote: Taygerus

not everything in this world is measured in money and material means, there are other higher values

And it is very good that the IG-DAIShevtsev was smashed on foreign territory, and not at home! Although such an advertisement, which was conducted by the Russian Air Force in Syria, is a sin to refuse! Earned with sweat and blood.

[Bort radist]

Quote: raid14

make money on blood

Our enemies.

[NEXUS]

And if the world still sees the work of the Iskanders, then I think the amount of contracts can still increase. In addition, the Solntsekys also made good advertising for themselves, well, the first combat robots.

[iliitchitch]

Clear business, it is always profitable to win. Do they have money? Political dividends are much more significant, it is not for nothing that the Western adder just howls already.

[donavi49]

Who?

Algeria? Railway carriage. There, by the way, there is also a "misanthropic regime" - and they handle it, only because it is more expensive to swear. That is, if it were not for a powerful army with T-90, S-300, Su-30, a powerful fleet with fresh Warsaw women, it would have been rocked back in the Arab spring. And so, when the demonstrations began, the police, as usual, took everyone to the jams and the revolution was over in 3 days. And the EU is not alone.

Yes, and for Algeria, a batch of Mi-28NE with dual control and a radar, as well as Mi-26Т2 with a glass cabin and 2 crew members are now flying around.

Indonesia - now there is money, or rather can find.

Vietnam - he has the heyday of Den Xiaoping, the largest corporations have come to the country and are making advanced industrial and high-tech power out of backward Vietnam. Everything has already been established there, from cranes and special equipment to Intel I5 processors and all sorts of smartphones / televisions / Samsung / LG household appliances. Plus, research centers open, here they signed from fresh in March - Samsung is building in its Hi-Tech park a powerful laboratory and R&D building for 300 million. So now there is money there, and not only from oil and tourists.

Pakistan - there is no money there, plus they are now targeting the Chinese, and they are trying to build industry for Pakistan, in fact, the main money between China and Pakistan is spinning.

Iraq - this weapon is a matter of survival.

Iran, by this, lifted the sanctions, but banned the sale of weapons (only after the consent of the UN Security Council, that is, the United States, respectively, if Iran buys something only from the United States and its allies).

[voyaka uh]

Algeria ... had money.
This is a country with oil exports.
Algeria is unlikely to pay for the military commissar.
Here Vietnam - yes. They went the Chinese way.

[donavi49]

There, even with 25 bucks, there will be enough money for the military commissar. They have 200 billion GDP nominal - with 40 millions of people. Plus, the cost of oil is zero. Plus, a life-long leader is in power (at 4 they seem to have accepted the amendment that there will be no more elections for the Father of the Fatherland), and after that the receiver is ready, if grandfather dies, nothing will change in general.

For Algeria - a strong army, a matter of survival. Only thanks to a strong Army, they have not yet been democratized. Thanks to a strong army, they hold significant, even leading positions in northern Africa.

[Ros 56]

And this is very correct, the whole world was once again convinced of the quality and reliability of our weapons, and that is important in its compliance with modern requirements. Well, when compared with the similar weapons of our potential rivals, we are not inferior to anything, and in some positions we surpass them by head. Consequently, there will be demand with all that it implies — the development and renewal of enterprises, jobs and increased income, and hence the growth of the economy.

[Voha_krim]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will produce 10 thousand medals to the participants in the operation in Syria

http://www.interfax.ru/russia/500732

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Voha_krim

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will produce 10 thousand medals to the participants in the operation in Syria

So it was by chance and it became known how many of ours in Syria

[Ros 56]

Case is not too much? There was no division there, or it was with a view to the future.

[Son of the ural]

Only now the losses come from the treasury, and this is the taxpayers' money. And the profits will be received by the defense industry companies, their directors and "managers"

[krops777]

And the profits will be received by the defense industry companies, their directors and "managers"

They will certainly receive, but also people will receive their salaries, local budgets taxes, some kind of social network, money will go into the development of production and so on, the chain is long, plus for Russia definitely.

[Al1977]

Quote: krops777

And the profits will be received by the defense industry companies, their directors and "managers"

They will certainly receive, but also people will receive their salaries, local budgets taxes, some kind of social network, money will go into the development of production and so on, the chain is long, plus for Russia definitely.

That is, these are the most successful regions in Russia? By the way, what order s / n are we talking about?
Is this comparable to a business that also pays taxes, social programs, etc.? I don’t know MB in factories and good salaries ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Son of the Urals

Only now the losses come from the treasury, and this is the taxpayers' money. And the profits will be received by the defense industry companies, their directors and "managers"

Where do they pay taxes?

[qwert111]

Quote: raid14

Let's follow the path of the Americans? We will fight around the world, make money on blood, but what’s profitable.

The most profitable thing we did was not allow the blood of our citizens to be shed on our territory. Of course, if necessary, we will fight and shed the blood of our enemies. There is one more principle from the old days: "Whoever comes to us with a sword will perish by the sword." And if it’s simple, then so, they have planned something against Russia, you will get it in the head!

[Fotoceva62]

Contracts are certainly good, but not everything is measured in money (this is not a mantra about fraternal assistance, to the fraternal Syrian people). Fighting in Syria, Russia stopped the processes initiated by Western parasites, gained time in the ongoing war for the future not only of Russia, but of the entire planet. She pushed the war away from her borders, and the money ... those who had requested their homeland had never been saved.

[mvg]

The author is an economist? What does he consider the gross value of contracts? And not real profit. S-400s are unlikely to be sold, just like Pakistan's Su-35S. Hindus will request half the amount in their economy or joint project, plus technology. Really Vietnam, Algeria, Indonesia .. but, something tells me that they would have bought if they needed. And we will not enter new markets ... everything is distributed many years ago.
PS: Minus article, wishful thinking ... Justification and complacency. Written for promotional purposes.

[weksha50]

Quote: mvg

PS: Article minus, wishful thinking ...

Hmm ... I didn’t put a minus in the article, but on the whole I agree with you ... Too much bravura rhetoric and previously non-existent profit has been calculated in advance ...

Buying intentions and the real deal are not the same thing at all ...

[Papapg]

Quote: Son of the Urals

Only now the losses come from the treasury, and this is the taxpayers' money. And the profits will be received by the defense industry companies, their directors and "managers"

No matter who you were on the battlefield, it is important who you will be at the end of it. As a rule, an administrative resource interrupts military victories. And today, by the way, is the day of a military lawyer, by the way, and they certainly know what and why.

[Pvi1206]

The arms trade began when hostility between people arose. And while enmity takes place there will be and arms trade.
The more powerful the opposing sides are armed, the less will they have the desire to unleash a mutually annihilating war.

[Wolka]

I am not a businessman, but if only not to the detriment of my own defenses and rearmament of the army

[weksha50]

"Algeria buys 40 Mi-28NE helicopters. This deal is valued at around $ 700 million."...

And in this barrel of honey is a fly in the ointment with the alleged privatization of Rosvertol ...

It has been said more than once at the VO that Rosvertol, of all the enterprises of RPK-VPK, is the most self-sustaining organization, working hard for export ...

The alleged purchases of our weapons by the Saudis are somehow uncomfortable ... First, they are far from friends to us, and secondly, they have been expressing these intentions for a year now, but nothing has really been done ...

Vietnam wants ... Vietnam I would like to buy a lot, so here at the top commentators-forum users asked the question: where is the money?

But in general, everything on paper looks pretty good ... But again I will refer to the previous comments of the forum users: the main profit will go to private owners, and only the profit tax (20%) will go to the treasury ...

All the same, OPK-VPK enterprises must belong to the state, at least be under its full control ... At least 51% of the shares of such enterprises should be in the hands of the state ... We do not need foreign investors at such enterprises ...

[donavi49]

Well, Algeria will already receive production cars soon. There is still the latest Mi-26T2 - with glass and 2 crew members.





We got money from Viet, oil went down, but now there is industrialization, the largest corporations come and build factories there, in return for tax preferences and all sorts of special conditions (for example, Samsung has built a Hi-Tech park, and now it is building R&D center laboratories for this is for him at 50 years a zero payment for the land, but the Vietnamese should work in the center from a cleaner to a scientist and top manager). There, billions of dollars are now attracted to the country, both from world brands of engineering, electronics, shipbuilding, and from Chinese corporations, which are now actively expanding to Vietnam.

[dimonl]

"Only by approximate calculations, Russia can get contracts worth about six to seven billion dollars, which is ten times more than the cost of the military campaign in Syria," the author concludes.
... which then will be successfully sawn at some kind of construction site of the century.

[atamankko]

The main thing is that Russia has shown its power to the whole world.

[avg-mgn]

The last of Serdyukov, as there is in the song - “Many Many Many” and nothing more than “Many”, and the Homeland, and the Army, and the People ...

[Mig-31]

Quote: 13 warrior

Do not bend. This is not the Americans came up with. But all states use this experience. Look at it differently: we help strengthen the defense capabilities of countries with weak defense industries.

Russia, like Colt, equalizes the chances of countries.

[arnulla]

Let's hope so be it

[avg-mgn]

Quote: weksha50

We do not need foreign investors at such enterprises ...

Let the investor be, he has the only interest - to earn on dividends, but he must be deprived of the rights to property or part of it, as well as to the production and sale of products.

[Cananecat]

Here we have such a simple advertisement ... give a hat.

[pts-m]

Billions earned heavily, and so giftedly presented to the ruin and other former “brothers”.

[rotmistr60]

Russia may receive contracts worth about six to seven billion dollars, which is ten times the cost of a military campaign in Syria

If contracts appear (and they should appear), then this is certainly good. But there are times when political achievement is not possible to measure with money. And Russia acquired political dividends, and moreover, not small ones.

[Infernal man]

Well, again, the journalists see Putin's cunning plan in everything. Everything is much more commonplace. Rearmament is in full swing in the country, and the base units in Syria have allowed Russia to dispose of the BPs that are being written off for "business benefit": they got rid of the trash and trained the army in real actions.
But journalists will always invent "scandals, intrigues, investigations" ...

[gukoyan]

Great news!
The Syrian company helped not only Bashar, but also performed an excellent advertising and marketing operation, plus we tested our equipment in real combat conditions!
Now the main thing is that they give us cash for everything, otherwise I look at loan obligations, we forgive everyone in the world.

[bad]

What Russia spent in Syria will more than pay off with new contracts

.. God grant if so .. if the defense industry will earn well then it will do the best for itself ..

[avg-mgn]

Today they are again in the queue for equipment.

[hartlend]

Money is money, there are also geopolitical issues. And they are more important than just money. Another question is what does it mean more than in Judaism and is the use of this word in the title of the article appropriate?

[L. A. A.]

The main result of the operation in Syria is to help suffering people.

[L. A. A.]

ISIS could completely exterminate all the Orthodox in Syria. Is the protection of Orthodox Christians not more important than money.

[mark_rod]

Quote: raid14

To all who disagree with the comment and put their "fat" minus, are you, gentlemen, criticizing the United States for wars around the world, the supply and sale of weapons to regimes and groups unfriendly to Russia.
By participating in conflicts, the United States thereby makes real advertising for its weapons, providing good orders for its defense industry. And this is in no way consistent with your civic patriotic position and is called hypocrisy.

Why not look at the fact of arms sales from the other side? Why not sell the same Iran or Algeria S300 for example? Then next time, if there is a desire for mattresses to bomb in these countries, they will think 300 times, because they are afraid of losses! This means that one war or armed conflict will be less.

[Disorder]

Not everything can be measured in money. No exercises and training grounds will give such experience in the operation and use of weapons that the aerospace forces received in Syria.
In addition, do not discount ammunition disposal.