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Non-Silk Road. Ukrainian train that has traveled around Russia cannot return

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The Ukrainian freight train, which, under the holiday fanfare, was escorted from Ilyichevsk (Odessa region) to China, and which moved 16 days before the border of Kazakhstan and the PRC, now cannot return. Soon already two months as the Ukrainian structure, "testing the new Silk way", is on the Chinese-Kazakhstan border.


Non-Silk Road. Ukrainian train that has traveled around Russia cannot return


The reason that the “freight train” does not return to Ukraine is banal: so far there has not been a single company that would like to use the services of the Ukrainian train for the delivery of goods from China to Ukraine. It is worth recalling that in order to overcome the route without using the territory of Russia, the Ukrainian train is twice loaded onto sea ferries, since two seas “get up” on its way - the Black and the Caspian.

Ukrainian edition "Economic truth" quotes a statement from the representative of the logistics logistics center Zammler
The train is not loaded with goods - there are no customers for transportation, therefore, it never came out on the return route from China.

Earlier, the head of the company "Ukrzaliznytsia" Alexander Zavgorodniy declared that from the Chinese-Kazakh border the train on the "New Silk Road" will return March 17. Today is 28 March, but the train does not move.

Specialists at the Zammler logistics center point out that using a Ukrainian train to transport one standard 40-foot container would be almost 5,6 thousand dollars. This price, by the way, was originally called by representatives of the Ukrainian carrier. It is this price (plus very long delivery times) that scares away potential customers. This is understandable, because the cost of transporting the same container on roads through Russia is about 1,5-2 times (depending on the options of the company's services and the route) cheaper. Potential customers of cargo transportation services also consider the “sea” sections of routes as big risks, as stormy weather is not uncommon at this time.
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  1. The black
    The black 28 March 2016 13: 26
    +149
    Like this! I warned! .... Wild Ukrainians on a ghost train - it's scary! belay laughingHow many projects inspired the dignity revolution! And submarines, and fences, and container shipping. One trouble, no one needs this in FIG.
    1. Vend
      Vend 28 March 2016 13: 30
      +22
      Quote: Black
      Like this! I warned! .... Wild Ukrainians on a ghost train - it's scary! belay laughing

      That's for sure who would doubt it. From inadequate decisions, there is no use laughing
      1. The black
        The black 28 March 2016 13: 35
        +135
        By the way, the title of the title is too long. It was enough to name the article "Ukrainian Empty". Every project they have is empty. laughing
        1. FenH
          FenH 28 March 2016 13: 42
          +49
          Quote: Black
          By the way, the title is too long. It was enough to name the article "Ukrainian Empty". Every project they have is empty. laughing

          Well why hi The wagons will be handed over to the Chinese for scrap metal fellow
          1. Rostov Papa
            Rostov Papa 28 March 2016 14: 03
            +88
            And what were the happy grunting grunts of Svidomo about this! laughing Possessors are shitty, invented
            "The Great Sharovarny Way", DB ...
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            2. Thrall
              Thrall 28 March 2016 16: 35
              +4
              It’s time for them to slip Ilyich into a wagon smile
              1. Talgat
                Talgat 28 March 2016 17: 55
                +14
                Since the days of the USSR, I have been sympathetic to both Ukraine and Ukrainians. Ukraine is a great republic — and in the USSR it occupied a worthy place — both industry and science, and that was all.

                For us there wasn’t much difference — that Russian is Ukrainian — by and large everything is ays

                Now some dark time, an external enemy plunged us all into darkness and an eclipse of reason, these Russian enemies are called and hated (for me it turns out that they hate almost 4 million citizens and my country) and the Russians excel in hatred of Ukrainians.

                The first thing to do is to stop generating mutual hatred. Ukrainians are not completely lost. In fact, time will pass and cure

                Ukraine will understand that its fate is not in Europe, but with us, with the steppe and with Russia, with the "horde" as they now call us all. We have a market for their industry - which we will all restore together someday. We have oil and gas at domestic Eurasian prices.

                For Europe, Ukrainians will always be second class - and we are all glad to see you brothers. Expel scumbag Bandera and go back!
                1. Rostov Papa
                  Rostov Papa 28 March 2016 18: 20
                  +13
                  What, son, help you your Poles?
                  Forbes: Broken Dreams of Kiev
                  Ukraine should not waste time pretending to be a girl in distress, who is waiting for salvation from a Western knight in shining armor. Kiev risks ultimately just becoming a failed state ...
                  ... Obviously, life is not fair. But no one will win, because he hides from this fact ...
                  ... Just like the Mexicans talk about America, we can say that the tragic fate of Kiev lies in the fact that it is so close to Russia and too far from God. The colossus in the neighborhood has special historical, cultural, economic ties, as well as issues related to its own security in Ukraine ... This explains the readiness of Moscow to undergo international criticism, economic sanctions, political isolation and military threats in order to prevent Ukraine from joining western block ...
                  ... Today, Kiev is an economic black hole and Europeans, constrained by money, do not show any desire to provide at least close to the level of assistance needed by Ukraine.
                  The United States has even less interest in this region. Few Americans even think about Ukraine ...
                  ... Neither America nor Europe is ready to risk a war with Russia. The West will not take away Crimea, suppress the separatists of Donbass, guarantee the territorial integrity of Ukraine, or even save its economy. And this means that Kiev actually remained on its own.
                  If the leaders of Ukraine thought differently, then they only fooled themselves ...
                  ... The 1994 Budapest Memorandum ... did not promise Ukraine anything meaningful even if someone violated the signed agreement ... Everything that Ukraine received was meaningless verbiage ...
                  ... in the era of self-determination, the goal should be to evaluate what people in Crimea want, and not to transfer the peninsula back under the control of Ukraine ...
                  ... For most of its history, Crimea has been part of Russia, and most of the inhabitants are ethnic Russians. If they want to stay in Russia, then their wishes must be respected ...
                  ... there are real Russian separatists who sincerely object to the government from Kiev and there are absolutely disgusting Ukrainian extreme nationalists ...
                  ... Only after the West pushed the street towards a revolution against the corrupt, but nonetheless elected President of Ukraine, Putin began to act to defend what he saw as the interests of Russia ...
                  ... The ongoing conflict is guaranteed to turn Ukraine into a financial, economic and political ruin ...
                  ... waging a low-grade economic war against Russia inevitably scares Moscow away from help on many other issues. The United States, in particular, is seeking Russian help in Afghanistan, Iran, North Korea and Syria ... Confronting Russia is a petty and stupid policy ...
                  ... Americans and Europeans will not come. It's time for them to strike a deal with Russia over Ukraine ... "
                2. Bayun
                  Bayun 28 March 2016 18: 26
                  +3
                  Nothing new! Once two-fingered Russians became enemies of three-fingered. They burned and killed. Then the rich and businesslike Russians became mortal enemies of the poor Russians and Russian bums. They burned and killed. Now "the continuation of the ballet": Kievan Rus versus Muscovite Rus. Harness-kill ... THERE IS NO TRUTH IN THE WAR!
                3. Rrrj
                  Rrrj 28 March 2016 19: 10
                  +9
                  Quote: Talgat
                  Now some dark time, an external enemy plunged us all into darkness and an eclipse of reason, these Russian enemies are called and hated (for me it turns out that they hate almost 4 million citizens and my country) and the Russians excel in hatred of Ukrainians.

                  Yes, no - we are not so filthy - if they were in our place - they would have buried us long ago ...
                  And we will give them gas, credit, advantageous offers - it would be high time to send them to hell.
                  Quote: Talgat
                  Ukraine will understand that its fate is not in Europe, but with us, with the steppe and with Russia, with the "horde" as they now call us all.

                  Yeah - they lifted up - there were also Nazi Aryans here ...
                  1. kuznec
                    kuznec 29 March 2016 06: 06
                    +7
                    As for the Aryans - in fact, Hitler gave out wishful thinking. The Germans are not Arians. Hindus are arias. And, strangely enough, the Slavs, and especially the Russians, too. There is a genetic similarity. And the language, especially old Russian, is very similar to Sanskrit.
                    The famous Indian scholar, professor of sanctology, Durga Prasad Shastri, at a 1964 scientific conference in India, noted that Russian and Sanskrit are two languages ​​in the world that are most similar to each other. “It is surprising, as he notes, that in two Our languages ​​have similar word structures, styles, and syntax. We add even greater similarity of the rules of grammar - this causes, in his words, deep curiosity among everyone who is familiar with linguistics ”[8].

                    The most famous Russian word "satellite" consists of three parts: "c" - prefix, "put" - root and "nick" - suffix. The Russian word path is the same for many languages: path in English and path in Sanskrit. The Sanskrit word "pathik" means "one who follows the path, a traveler." The semantic meaning of these words in both languages ​​coincides: "one who follows the path with someone else." In Russian, a companion is also called a wife.

                    “When I was in Moscow,” Shastri himself says, “at the hotel they gave me the keys to room 234 and said:“ two hundred and thirty-four. ” In perplexity, I could not understand if I was standing in front of a lovely girl in Moscow or in Benares or Ujjain in our classical period, about 2000 years ago. In Sanskrit 234 there will be “dwishata tridasha chatwari”. Is it possible somewhere more similarity? It is unlikely that there will be two more languages ​​that have preserved the ancient heritage - such a close pronunciation - to the present day "[9] About 4000 years have passed since the separation of the Slavic Aryans, and both languages ​​contain close and common words that arose in ancient times, but easily audible nowadays, even by lay people.

                    During this visit, Shastri claimed: “you all here speak some ancient form of Sanskrit, and I understand a lot without translation” [10].

                    Also, at one time he visited the village of Kachalovo about 25 kilometers from Moscow, where he was invited to dinner with a Russian peasant family. An elderly woman, apparently the mistress of the house, introduced him to a young couple, saying in Russian: "he is my son and she is my daughter-in-law." Shastri was terribly surprised that the phrase sounds quite understandable without translation. “How I wish,” Shastri writes later, “so that Panini, the great Indian grammar player who lived about 2600 years ago, could be here with me and hear the language of his time, so wonderfully preserved with all the smallest subtleties!” [eleven]
                    1. a housewife
                      a housewife 29 March 2016 14: 32
                      +3
                      If only he stayed with the gypsies in the family - they are Indians. Conclusion - Gypsies are true Aryans.
                4. wasjasibirjac
                  wasjasibirjac 28 March 2016 20: 11
                  +8
                  Quote: Talgat
                  The first thing to do is to stop generating mutual hatred. Ukrainians are not completely lost. In fact, time will pass and cure
                  unfortunately, the further, the more I am convinced that the Ukrainians stayed in Russia. and there are Ukrainians. even there is no hatred for them as such. there is surprise and expectation: what next pearl they will "please".
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                  2. Rostov Papa
                    Rostov Papa 28 March 2016 20: 41
                    +3
                    there is surprise and expectation: what next pearl they will "please".
                    Fresh pearl laughing
                5. BARKHAN
                  BARKHAN 28 March 2016 20: 29
                  +11
                  Quote: Talgat
                  In fact, time will pass and cure

                  Well, what have we got to do with it? Let them be treated over the fence. The entire sanatorium at our expense is over. Enough. 25 years is enough to decide who is friend and who is enemy. and they didn’t give a shit about an outstretched hand. What kind of friends are they to us if they want to hang on some sort of rotter.
                  To get through and get to the level of genes, great Ukrainians should be dipped into the humus on the top of their heads and pickled there for some time. Excuse me for everything they could have done for them. But what's the point? Let them go to the EU. Let the Americans be resettled.
                  I repeat, what do we have to do with it?
                  Yesterday I watched Mikhalkov's "Besogon No. 93". There was filming of what was happening in Russia in 1991-1993, and I was stunned, but this is today's Ukraine. One to one.
                  And by the way. Now I agree, Ukraine is Europe. The same thing ..... but.
                6. Lexa-149
                  Lexa-149 28 March 2016 20: 59
                  +10
                  No one here considers them to be enemies. They mostly consider them sick on the head. This is some kind of Bandera-dill-capillary virus that infected their brain, and this whole thing simply aggravated the cookies from Nuland.
                  It’s clear that when the final stratification and impoverishment of society takes place, those who live will pack their bags and merge, leaving the poor Ukrainians to rake up this shit that they jumped for themselves. to the swearing m.
                  And everything will return to square one ...
                7. sharp-lad
                  sharp-lad 28 March 2016 22: 07
                  +8
                  Dear Talgat, Former Ukrainians themselves "ran into" trouble and continue in the same spirit! So, "what we fought for, we ran into it"! As for the Ukrainians who were "not former", but real, we are all happy to see you brothers. Expel the scumbags of Bandera and return! I completely agree with you and ... really want to accomplish this miracle. hi
                8. Zverboy
                  Zverboy 28 March 2016 23: 02
                  +2
                  Words of the husband !!!
                9. Orionvit
                  Orionvit 28 March 2016 23: 42
                  +9
                  Where is the Russians generating hatred of Ukraine? There is a frank misunderstanding of inadequate neighbors, somehow I don’t observe hatred, so people laugh with all their heart. And what else to do, because they are wondering not childishly. But in relation to the Russians, I'm sorry, I hear every day because I myself am Russian and I live (I hope not for long) in Ukraine.
                10. 4ekist
                  4ekist 28 March 2016 23: 49
                  +4
                  We do not have a market for their industry, I hope it will not be anymore. Let them bite their carrots, and we ours.
          2. Tu-214R
            Tu-214R 28 March 2016 14: 13
            +21
            Well, why hi They will hand over the cars to the Chinese for scrap metal and they will manage another overpowering fellow

            So for the parking / storage of the composition probably also need to pay. The solvency of 404 is now known. So, the Chinese can and take the composition for the debts, and even penalties count how impudent enough.
            1. your1970
              your1970 28 March 2016 18: 22
              +5
              if the wagons are own-day for unloading / loading, then the downtime is further, if rented from Russian Railways / NK Temir Zholy, options are possible (but also no more than 2-5 days), if PJSC "Ukrainian Zaliznytsya" - also a couple of options (own / rented) - but also simple after a few days ...
              In general, the general principle is: if there is no product / document problems / there is no sender and recipient - well, that is, there is no direct fault of the railway - then in a day it will be simple. If the railway is guilty, the wagon is sick, the documents were lost (it happens - but quite rarely), technically they can’t file - a simple one can’t be paid for the period up to the moment it is submitted for loading / unloading, and then wrote as above. About Dostyk I do not know the cost of downtime, but at border stations it is usually large.
              "The wheels must be spinning !!" © national railway repeat
              1. Tu-214R
                Tu-214R 28 March 2016 19: 26
                +3
                Russian Railways probably disappears, Ukraine also banned the use of Russian cars and the Russian Federation also banned the use of Ukrainian cars in response, last year. And they certainly wouldn't have used our cars in such an ambitious project - such a scandal would have been: "rented from aggressors." Thank you for the clarification.
          3. brasist
            brasist 28 March 2016 17: 05
            +1
            FenX RU Today, 13:42 ↑ New
            Quote: Black
            By the way, the title is too long. It was enough to name the article "Ukrainian Empty". Every project they have is empty. laughing
            Well, why hi They will hand over the cars to the Chinese for scrap metal and they will manage another overpowering fellow


            So also denyushki for a simple cap, cap, cap, and 404 will have to get bogged down even more in debt ...
          4. Douel
            Douel 29 March 2016 01: 52
            +1
            So they surrendered for sure, but the fact that no one was found was an excuse.
            When the composition had just started on the alternative-smart path, the idea was expressed that the composition would go to ferrous metal. They got it.
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        4. Altona
          Altona 28 March 2016 13: 51
          +9
          Quote: Black
          It was enough to name the article "Ukrainian Empty". Every project they have is empty.

          ------------------------
          Zradoperemoga next ... laughing
          1. matross
            matross 28 March 2016 17: 35
            +5
            But what, their mother, is the poetic name "Ukrzaliznytsia" laughing
            As they still did not squeak languages ​​there wassat
        5. 4ekist
          4ekist 28 March 2016 23: 44
          0
          I don’t even want to read about the brainless; among Ukrainians, the mind works well in one direction: to take it and drag it away.
        6. Red_Hamer
          Red_Hamer 30 March 2016 02: 58
          0
          This state itself, this term.
        7. gav6757
          gav6757 30 March 2016 21: 28
          0
          Well, what to say?
          Idiots !!! laughing
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 28 March 2016 13: 37
        +10
        In my opinion Svidomo useless to say-we warned you ... what
        All the same, they will do it differently, the main thing is that it does not belong to the city. Medicine here is powerless.

        Although they even say to Americans that they didn’t come out with a mug - Ukraine should stop portraying a princess in anticipation of a knight on a white horse - Forbes

        Many Ukrainians are waiting for the moment when the US and Europe will save them, says Doug Bendow in a Forbes article.

        The assumption that these people live in a fantasy world will result in you being called a fool and “Putin’s puppet,” the author notes. Nevertheless, Ukraine should not waste time, posing as a "princess in distress," expecting a "knight on a white horse" in the face of the West, as she risks becoming an insolvent state.
        https://russian.rt.com/article/155708

        The Americans just overslept the moment when Ukraine turned into a Failed State.
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 28 March 2016 13: 50
          +16
          Quote: Sid.74
          In my opinion Svidomo useless to say-we warned you ... what
          All the same, they will do it differently, the main thing is that it does not belong to the city. Medicine here is powerless.

          As in a joke:
          - To spite the conductor - I will buy a ticket, but I will go on foot!
        2. marl
          marl 28 March 2016 13: 50
          +3
          Quote: Sid.74
          It’s useless to say - we warned you ...

          That is precisely because Russia warned, they started the next project of the century. With European integration it was the same. No need to warn them, on the contrary it is necessary to encourage. Then maybe their life will get better.
          It is incomprehensible to the mind how to launch a project without calculating the cost. Pamped up then ...
        3. Altona
          Altona 28 March 2016 13: 53
          +5
          Quote: Sid.74
          The Americans just overslept the moment when Ukraine turned into a Failed State.

          ---------------------
          they wanted a pre-field hostile to Russia, but they did not think about who would feed this 'pre-field'. laughing
      3. neo.
        neo. 28 March 2016 13: 37
        +19
        Quote: Wend
        From inadequate decisions, there is no use

        So the train was buried! laughing
        There are "free masons", and these "free diggers"! They may or may not dig.
        Dug up the black sea.
        For amber, as moles dug up everything
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 28 March 2016 14: 11
          +3
          Quote: neo.
          For amber, as moles dug up everything

          But before in Ukraine, stoves were heated with amber ....
        2. Alex20042004
          Alex20042004 28 March 2016 20: 52
          +2
          They used to write here: There are two kinds of stupidity - silent and talkative! laughing laughing laughing
      4. Asadullah
        Asadullah 28 March 2016 13: 42
        +18
        From inadequate decisions


        About how many wonderful discoveries we have, the Ukrainian spirit is preparing .....
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        2. RUSS
          RUSS 28 March 2016 13: 59
          +14
          Quote: Asadullah
          About how many wonderful discoveries we have, the Ukrainian spirit is preparing .....

          Thrash !!! fool

          The Ukrainian military said that fighting hobbits will fight for the DPR

          According to the AFU, dwarf militias will wage a sabotage and reconnaissance war against Kiev.
          In Ukrainian social networks, news appeared about the recruitment of either dwarfs, or hobbits, or dwarfs in the DPR and Russia. The information was instantly picked up and distributed by the Ukrainian media.
          Volunteer of the Armed forces of Ukraine Alexander Chernov said that fighting hobbits will fight for the troops of the DPR in Ukraine.

          According to the participant of anti-terrorist operation, the militia recruits young dwarfs for sabotage and reconnaissance war, carrying out explosions near parts of the Armed Forces.

          - They are easy to confuse even at close range with children, they won’t be especially “lured”, it is easier for them to “roam”. For these purposes, local non-aging midgets are being recruited, and it is planned to import a dozen already "trained" from the Russian Federation, Chernov said.

          He further advises the Ukrainian military to take a closer look at the undersized youth in the “frontline” territory, reports Pravdanews.
          1. Riv
            Riv 28 March 2016 14: 19
            +11
            Oh god Lilliput special forces ... The last word in military science.
            Watch out, svidomye! The Russian stealth pychot has already crept up behind and is preparing its own pneumopih.
          2. Jook
            Jook 28 March 2016 14: 35
            +3
            And the Green Men were probably elves. Here it turns out that)))
          3. Cherpak
            Cherpak 28 March 2016 15: 24
            +6
            They deliberately drive "trash" to justify the killing of children in the territories of the DPR and LPR
          4. Lieutenant Izhe
            Lieutenant Izhe 28 March 2016 16: 02
            +1
            belay A yummy mіtsny they tyutyun s hemp! wassat
      5. The black
        The black 28 March 2016 13: 43
        +10
        Although on the other hand, you think, surprised, by the Trans-Caspian route! laughing ... This is not the limit of stupidity, this is so, a warm-up ... For example, the idea of ​​coal from South Africa no longer amuses anyone, the prohibitions on air traffic with the Russian Federation are also ... It's cooler to surprise the world, "panov" maydauns, cooler and to approach the question on a larger scale! Here's an idea for you: it's high time to attend to the delivery of icebergs from Antarctica to Ukraine! And then eclipse the glory of the ancestors who dug the Black Sea !!! ... wassat
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 28 March 2016 13: 51
          +10
          Quote: Black
          Steeper nadot the world to surprise, "Panov" maydauny, cooler and bigger nadot to approach the issue!

          They have, that is not a day, then a new zradimoga ... a Soviet flea .... belay

          And no, this is the Balts .... here is the Ukrainian media ... laughing

          Gestapo "DNR" creates a sabotage squad of Lilliputians. War dwarfs will be sent to kill soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          http://www.dialog.ua/news/81916_1459080245


        2. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 28 March 2016 13: 55
          +2
          Quote: Black
          Here's an idea for you: it's time to take care of delivering icebergs from Antarctica to the bottom!

          And there will be a new cartoon: "How the Cossacks delivered the iceberg!"
          Have you not seen our iceberg ?!
        3. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 28 March 2016 14: 39
          +2
          Steeper nadot the world to surprise, "Panov" maydauny, cooler and bigger nadot to approach the issue!
          Dill, if you can’t bring the train back, push it forward, do not stop in China, Japan and the USA are ahead, then you will definitely be the first. laughing
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        5. a housewife
          a housewife 29 March 2016 14: 39
          0
          Such a method of delivering icebergs really was, in which country I don’t remember, so the Kh.Ohls could have repeated it, but one trouble is that they have a poor fleet and fuel.
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      6. Voha_krim
        Voha_krim 28 March 2016 15: 50
        +4
        Quote: Wend
        From inadequate decisions, there is no use

        The mythical new silk road from Ukrzaliznitsa has sunk into oblivion. This "mega" project, created, like everything newly created in Ukraine, not for the good of the country, but for evil to enemies - he proved his failure.
      7. Drmadfisher
        Drmadfisher 28 March 2016 16: 18
        +2
        glorious troll, lit up shareware
      8. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 30 March 2016 03: 45
        0
        "The Ukrainian train," having traveled "around Russia, cannot return back"

        Putin poured sand into the axle boxes. Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho. Maybe all the same, an underground tunnel that would not be tracked from space?
    2. vodolaz
      vodolaz 28 March 2016 13: 52
      +2
      Here is the market and put everything in its place) And as svidomye squealed, and even in the comments on the news of the Stars on Facebook)
    3. Riv
      Riv 28 March 2016 14: 17
      +7
      And by the way: how are things with the fence? I have not heard about him for a long time.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 28 March 2016 14: 32
        +3
        Ukrainian fences have everything "exactly"
      2. a housewife
        a housewife 29 March 2016 14: 42
        0
        Now is not up to the fence. Turn of the Dnieper into the Sea of ​​Azov is being prepared.
    4. Pravdarm
      Pravdarm 28 March 2016 14: 17
      +4
      Quote: Black
      Ukrainians on a ghost train

      DeBebles on a ghost armored train. With armored curtains! fool
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 March 2016 14: 28
      0
      It's easier to transport by air than through this "Ukrosholkmertvoput"
    6. sir_obs
      sir_obs 28 March 2016 14: 29
      +5
      We have two troubles, and they don’t have a road ... funny
      1. 97110
        97110 28 March 2016 14: 46
        +4
        Quote: sir_obs
        We have two troubles, and they don’t have a road ... funny

        But there are more fools. More than twice.
    7. Lukich
      Lukich 28 March 2016 15: 13
      +12
      Quote: Black
      One trouble, no one needs this in FIG.

      they need
      1. Alex20042004
        Alex20042004 28 March 2016 20: 55
        +2
        Did the Poles send them last fall?
        So they didn’t eat, so they nibbled!
    8. el coyote
      el coyote 28 March 2016 16: 53
      +7
      Just tovarnyak decided to secede from Ukraine. Such a separatist train!
    9. code54
      code54 30 March 2016 18: 11
      0
      We played in the engine! Hohols Transport Tycoon! belay
  2. Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 28 March 2016 13: 27
    +9
    Interestingly, Ukrainian citizens are aware that the next grief-project Nezalezhnoy gave oak?
    1. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 28 March 2016 13: 33
      +1
      You can try to throw on the censor, but I'm afraid the trolls there will not understand)))
      1. Galich Kos
        Galich Kos 28 March 2016 13: 37
        0
        There people are already inadequate, but here there is such "zrada". Have pity on them))
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 28 March 2016 14: 45
          +7
          There people are already inadequate, but here there is such "zrada". Have pity on them))

          Shoot, or what?
      2. Northerner65
        Northerner65 29 March 2016 10: 10
        0
        I tried to go to the censor ... our campaign was blocked
    2. rosstov
      rosstov 28 March 2016 13: 37
      +1
      Of course, celebrations have already taken place on the occasion of the peremogi - the opening of a stationary railway base on the Kazakh-Chinese border.
  3. Victor-M
    Victor-M 28 March 2016 13: 27
    +12
    Damn, during this time the galloping Bandera herd could dig a tunnel and lay the railway track from Kiev to China. laughing
    1. from punk
      from punk 28 March 2016 13: 36
      +4
      Quote: Victor-M
      Damn, during this time the galloping Bandera herd could dig a tunnel and lay the railway track from Kiev to China. laughing

      They have everything according to the Olympic principle for losers. The main thing is not victory but participation
  4. kebeskin
    kebeskin 28 March 2016 13: 29
    +3
    Tse peremoga))) has come. I offer them more cargo on a ship to bypass Africa to China)
  5. dimitris
    dimitris 28 March 2016 13: 30
    +1
    #LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!
    1. avt
      avt 28 March 2016 13: 36
      +6
      Quote: dimitris
      #LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!

      What to do . Such a country, specially created in 1991 so that in Russia they would laugh at it, beating bread from comedians. Crimea-left, Donbass-left, Lugansk-left, the trains run and everything is irrevocable .... wassat request Separas! and the train too, though iron. wassatOr maybe a view of Puten!? wassat He is a Svidomo, independent train in China, "spiritual braces" jumped to the rails? wassat Nothing else comes to mind laughing
      1. ltc22A
        ltc22A 28 March 2016 13: 43
        +3
        Quote: avt
        Quote: dimitris
        #LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!

        What to do . Such a country, specially created in 1991 so that in Russia they would laugh at it, beating bread from comedians. Crimea-left, Donbass-left, Lugansk-left, the trains run and everything is irrevocable .... wassat request Separas! and the train too, though iron. wassatOr maybe a view of Puten!? wassat He is a Svidomo, independent train in China, "spiritual braces" jumped to the rails? wassat Nothing else comes to mind laughing

        Another way to avoid graves in the ATO. Vtekly (fled) in a new way.
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 29 March 2016 14: 44
          0
          What? A whole train of deserters?
  6. ser-pov
    ser-pov 28 March 2016 13: 30
    +1
    Again at the dillies "zrada" ..
  7. Galich Kos
    Galich Kos 28 March 2016 13: 31
    +3
    And in order to completely bypass Russia, it is necessary across the Atlantic or around Africa.
  8. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 28 March 2016 13: 31
    +2
    Well, how can you explain that there is geography, economics, and you can’t get far at the same pace.
  9. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 28 March 2016 13: 31
    +1
    firewood would be sent to the Kazakhs chtol .. some useless and non-economic Ukrainians
  10. drags33
    drags33 28 March 2016 13: 32
    +36
    dill is a complete misunderstanding ... A non-state with exorbitant ambitions and the same exorbitant stupidity and debilitation of "leaders". Rather, this story with dill is over! I'm just tired of reading the next crap about dill every day ...
    1. Riv
      Riv 28 March 2016 14: 22
      +4
      "Whose ass is this, I wonder? And if you kick it? .."
    2. bocsman
      bocsman 28 March 2016 16: 03
      +2
      All this resembles the end of the Third Reich. Miracle weapons such as the "Mouse" tank and other "wunderwafe". Oh, Ukraine chose the shitty teacher! Or did they not read the history of the Reich to the end?
  11. Urgen
    Urgen 28 March 2016 13: 34
    +1
    The principle "to spite my grandmother, I will frostbite my ears" this time did not work. Strange ... Could drive the empty train for the first time! smile
  12. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 March 2016 13: 35
    +3
    What is pop, such is parish. The lack of a brain, some ambition, hence the predictable result.
  13. Served once
    Served once 28 March 2016 13: 36
    +6
    Geography and tariffs closely related to it will not be fooled. As my company commander (Korean by nationality) said, "if you think that my eyes are narrow, I do not see what you are doing here in the company without fathers-commanders, then you are deeply mistaken!" Good commander, Man! Thanks for military science A.N. Pak hi
  14. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 28 March 2016 13: 36
    +4
    You can’t give an eccentric a glass member - not only will it break, it will also be cut?
  15. guzik007
    guzik007 28 March 2016 13: 36
    +16
    ... and for a long time the local elders talked about a ghost train with a wild crest sitting on the rear hitch. Which suddenly appeared in the night steppe, frightening saigas and carried away into the distance, blowing random passers-by, numbed with horror, by the persistent smell of the matted footcloths, fumes and faint smell of lard unknown in these parts of the animal in half with garlic.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 28 March 2016 13: 41
      +9
      There was a Flying Dutchman, and this is a Flying Hohlander!
  16. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 28 March 2016 13: 37
    +4
    And they were not going to return the train, they immediately designed it for scrap, then they would take it off from the back and rails.
  17. The black
    The black 28 March 2016 13: 38
    +2
    Quote: Dimon19661
    You can try to throw on the censor,

    I can imagine how much screech there will be wassat
  18. nemec55
    nemec55 28 March 2016 13: 39
    0
    Zradnaya peremoga although about 404 is either good or nothing, well, then bish must be silent.
  19. V.ic
    V.ic 28 March 2016 13: 39
    +13
    Wheels dictate carriage
    Not see you soon
    With your Ukraine
    Torn in half ...

    Heart cares, heart cares
    Transit missing freight ...
    And somewhere in my brain is already spinning:
    Bring back the Soviet Union!
  20. ltc22A
    ltc22A 28 March 2016 13: 39
    +1
    To spite mom (Russia), I will frostbite my ears. My daughter decided to get pregnant (make a profit) through the side.
    fool
  21. atamankko
    atamankko 28 March 2016 13: 40
    0
    Bad business is not tricky.
  22. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 28 March 2016 13: 41
    +2
    Darn! Velikoukry seas dug there!
    1. svu93
      svu93 28 March 2016 13: 47
      +1
      nothing wrong! they need to tell! they dug up the Black Sea, dig one more, some kind of South Ukrainian !!)))
      1. FenH
        FenH 28 March 2016 13: 50
        +1
        Quote: svu93
        nothing wrong! they need to tell! they dug up the Black Sea, dig one more, some kind of South Ukrainian !!)))

        They spin "Old Man" on the digging site of the Belarusian sea
    2. svu93
      svu93 28 March 2016 13: 47
      +1
      nothing wrong! they need to tell! they dug up the Black Sea, dig one more, some kind of South Ukrainian !!)))
      1. Neophyte
        Neophyte 28 March 2016 14: 28
        0
        In Galicia-tse Europa!
  23. pts-m
    pts-m 28 March 2016 13: 42
    +1
    However, this is the “most economical route”. The principle of this move, the longer the path, the less dough will go to the state. Originals.
  24. zenith
    zenith 28 March 2016 13: 43
    +1
    Yes, even though the ears are frostbitten. Anyway, on them. Even though through Canada to China kondybat.
  25. Korney84
    Korney84 28 March 2016 13: 46
    +2
    Quote: Galich Kos
    Interestingly, Ukrainian citizens are aware that the next grief-project Nezalezhnoy gave oak?

    And who will tell them about it.
  26. vanavatny
    vanavatny 28 March 2016 13: 47
    +12
    download it chinese
  27. Holsten
    Holsten 28 March 2016 13: 53
    +1
    A gorgeous illustration of the triumph of the strategic thinking of the Great Auroras.
  28. raid14
    raid14 28 March 2016 13: 55
    +3
    For which the generous ones will not undertake, everything is obtained through the jop, this happens when you start any business with anger.
  29. bad
    bad 28 March 2016 13: 56
    +2
    it’s a pity for the train crew .. if there are drivers with assistants spinning around? winked
  30. tiredwithall
    tiredwithall 28 March 2016 13: 57
    +3
    All the same European logistics, Katz ** s!
  31. Taygerus
    Taygerus 28 March 2016 14: 01
    +9
    UKROPIAN FANTASY CONTINUES THAT THERE ARE MORE WATER THESE NOT BROTHERS
  32. sgr291158
    sgr291158 28 March 2016 14: 03
    0
    Quote: neo.
    Quote: Wend
    From inadequate decisions, there is no use

    So the train was buried! laughing
    There are "free masons", and these "free diggers"! They may or may not dig.
    Dug up the black sea.
    For amber, as moles dug up everything

    Dugouts dig however.
    1. Alexey Lesogor
      Alexey Lesogor 28 March 2016 14: 52
      +1
      Dugouts dig however.


      There the comment is brief but very clear.
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  33. Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist 28 March 2016 14: 04
    +1
    Quote: Altona
    Quote: Black
    It was enough to name the article "Ukrainian Empty". Every project they have is empty.

    ------------------------
    Zradoperemoga next ... laughing



    Overpass ... well, or zradamoga, depending on which side to look laughing
  34. BOB044
    BOB044 28 March 2016 14: 05
    0
    What kind of patients are they there in Ukraine? And the main thing is that this is not treated. laughing
  35. vmo
    vmo 28 March 2016 14: 07
    +1
    Well, how can we explain that there is geography, economics, and not just one



    In the joke, Vovochka was called a fool, and the government in Ukraine ?????? good
  36. sgr291158
    sgr291158 28 March 2016 14: 07
    +2
    Something business trip dragged on. The crested train turned out to be unclaimed.
  37. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 28 March 2016 14: 08
    +2
    D. morons, @ fuck! wassat fool
  38. AlexTires
    AlexTires 28 March 2016 14: 08
    +3
    Ukrainians discovered the Great Silk Dead End
  39. qwert111
    qwert111 28 March 2016 14: 17
    +4
    There is a legend about the gold of the Scythians, there is about the golden fleece and the gold of Eldorado. And finally, the Ukrainian "heroic" epic "On the run of the golden empty" appeared
  40. igor 77
    igor 77 28 March 2016 14: 18
    0
    Or maybe they should send an airship instead of a train?
    1. Jook
      Jook 28 March 2016 14: 42
      0
      Better trampoline laughing
      1. igor 77
        igor 77 28 March 2016 15: 03
        0
        Also come down wink
  41. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 28 March 2016 14: 20
    +3
    The laws of logistics (among others - economic sense and expediency) for xoxles are not written. The doctrine "anyhow to wash away the mocks" is for domestic consumption. I doubt that potential clients are willing to bear such costs and pay extra for their id ... gm.
  42. or
    or 28 March 2016 14: 33
    +6
    Already got sick of laughing, I want to regret more, lost in time and space Svidomo Central Europeans.
  43. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 28 March 2016 14: 33
    +2
    Ukraine to study independence. So far nothing works)
  44. Dax
    Dax 28 March 2016 14: 33
    +1
    Yes, complete ukrzaliznyts, sorry for the wretched, but nothing can be done.
  45. Arkan
    Arkan 28 March 2016 14: 40
    +3
    In my opinion, only one stubborn Ukrainians believed that someone needed their transport services.
  46. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 28 March 2016 14: 44
    0
    Quote: Victor-M
    Damn, during this time the galloping Bandera herd could dig a tunnel and lay the railway track from Kiev to China. laughing

    Well, the Chinese have built at least a real wall hi But in general, inspired. How many jokes went about Ukrainians, Jews, etc. Now a joke will probably appear: where the crest has visited, there is nothing for the Chinese to do, or vice versa laughing
  47. Jook
    Jook 28 March 2016 14: 44
    +2
    I recall a quote from one of M. Zadornov's monologues - "" ... in spring and autumn, schizophrenics become more active ... ""
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  49. Mestny
    Mestny 28 March 2016 15: 14
    +2
    Quote: marna
    That is precisely because Russia warned, they started the next project of the century. With European integration it was the same.

    So. What else should they be warned about?
  50. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 28 March 2016 15: 22
    +1
    Soon already two months as the Ukrainian structure, "testing the new Silk Road", is located on the Sino-Kazakh border.

    Apparently, they will have to hand it over to the Chinese for scrap.