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For which they killed Alexei Brain. Results of the investigation

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It sometimes happens that история already finished, seemingly no sense in returning to it. The dead no longer return, and the issues of honor and memory in our time in some places, as if to say less ... are irrelevant.


But regarding this story, I confess, there was a worm sitting inside. And slowly gnawed. There were too many oddities and inconsistencies, to be honest.

After the second attempt on the Brain we laid out our opinions and arguments. Alexey Borisovich laughed heartily at them. Although one of the versions, as they say, lay next.

After the third and last, we argued without his comments. Almost blindly.

Frankly, we did not get to the point in any of the four versions. Just because they were not aware of some things. So, to be honest, this material is not an attempt at rehabilitation for frank faults in judgments, but rather, an opportunity to show what actually happened. If only because the main number of participants are alive, healthy and continue to work and serve.

All these 10 months from the moment of events, to be honest, I dug. Not an excavator, rather, a sapper shovel. He spoke with those who could tell something. I wrote letters. Received answers. Read different opinions and memories. And here the set of puzzles in a picture did not develop. No

The case helped. At my disposal was the correspondence of Anna Samelyuk and Alexey Brain with one person from Kiev. Mostly valuable in Anna's correspondence, for Alexey Borisovich had a very peculiar attitude to the writing of letters. More precisely, I saw this case in a coffin. In a year and a half of our communication and cooperation, I received a total of 5 (five) messages from 107 (one hundred and seven) words. Considering prepositions and pronouns. Well, the person did not like to write what can you do.

The authenticity of the correspondence is checked and is beyond doubt. It was actually written by those who were declared. And it's not about whether the style of each of the characters is well or badly known to me. Just before March 2015, I was aware of many things that were discussed there. Including me there touched quite naturally.

In total there are a little more 500 pages. I had to read everything. And when I finished reading, and then carefully looked through the documents I sent, the puzzle, as they say, was formed.

Two words about the interlocutor of the Brain and Samelyuk. He is from Kiev. Not a militia. Cooperated with Anya, helping her in the promotion of her informproekt. Very successful, by the way. It was at his suggestion that Brainstorm began to talk less about the problems of the army and began to talk about the problems of everyday life. What, by the way, earned a lot of political points. And according to his proposed plan, steps were taken that entailed a chain of events.

So what happened at the beginning of last year?

The following occurred. As soon as the reformatting of the army of the LC, began, the "Ghost" began to bend. In order to either cram into the corps, or disband as Cossack units. Everyone remembers, I hope, how much noise was on this topic.

The main problem of the bend was that, despite repeated proposals from the official authorities of the LC, Brainstorming did not contact. And from the proposed positions of the Deputy Minister of Defense and Deputy Minister of the Interior refused. It’s not for me to judge whether he would be good in the role of minister, or not, but the fact is that, as a result, the proposals were withdrawn, and the Brain was left out of business. Plus, the team began to fall apart due to problems related to lack of funding and supply. And, not least, due to the lack of prospects for the fighters. For it is one thing to serve in the official Corps, with all the consequences, and another thing is to be a unit fighter with, to put it mildly, a dubious future. And the fighters left.

As a result, the "Ghost" returned to the composition of the two-hundredth battalion, consisting of local residents and completely committed to the ideas and personality of the Brain people. In principle, by March 2015, the brigade was no longer there, as well as the brigade commander Mozgovoy was purely nominal.

This is exactly what caused us a lot of surprise. Indeed, what was the point of killing a kombrig? From almost three thousand fighters left three and a half hundreds. Carpentry seems to have come to an agreement. It seems to be the remnants of the "Ghost" took to the state territorial police of the LC. Why all? What for?

Parade 9 May, who wanted to hold a brain in Alchevsk? So did not hold the same. Alchevsk plant? Also by, although I personally thought in the direction of the owners of this institution. Not confirmed.

However, it turned out that the reason was. Yes, even what.

In March, when it became clear that the brigade could not be preserved as it was, it was decided that the warlord Brainstorm should retrain into Brain policy.

In general, it was not difficult. Brain and so the forces of the brigade provided all possible assistance to the city and its inhabitants. Here you have drugs, food from brigade assistants, and care for children and retirees, a lot of things happened. The whole department worked. 088 Division. And until March, 2015, this unit did not weakly worked on the image of the Brain.

But, since the administrative resource was assigned from Lugansk, in fact for the Brain there was only one way up. Elections. Fortunately, they were outlined and were spelled out in the Minsk agreements.

And it was a difficult decision to register a social movement "People's Revival". To revive, in the name and on behalf of the people, everything that is necessary in the LC. Good idea.

Where should this OD be legally registered? It is clear that not in Russia. It is clear that not in the LC, no one in the world would have looked at such a movement. And given the nuance that the elections were planned according to Minsk in the Ukrainian format, it is clear that according to the mind, registration must be done in Ukraine.

A normal person will immediately ask: is there all that and absolutely that? Accept for registration documents from the separatist and the terrorist Brain - this is how? That's how. There is such a hole in the Ukrainian legislation. A public organization without a current account and the right to conduct financial activities may be registered upon notification. There is such a Regulation №140. That is, citizens of Ukraine submit a set of documents of the appropriate sample ... by mail. And within 3 (three) days from the moment of receipt, the Ministry of Justice of Ukraine is obliged either to register or send the declarants to far away.

Further, however, there are nuances. The applicant (or one of the applicants indicated in the documents) is obliged to personally pick up the documents from the Ministry of Justice and further carry out a number of registration actions. But from the moment of the appearance on the Charter of the stamp "Legalized" or "Registered", a public organization is considered to be held. Full state registration occurs at the moment when one of the founders puts his signature on the receipt for the registration certificate.

I am so verbose in writing so that later it becomes clear what action these manipulations have produced.

As a result, three citizens of Ukraine submitted a notification to the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice about the creation of the public organization "National Revival".



Here is a photo from my personal archive, in which they are all three. Andrei Kozlov, Anna Samelyuk and Alexey Mozgovoy. The photo, of course, was made not in Kiev.

Andrei Kozlov, as a person with a higher legal education, prepared the entire package of documents. In accordance with the current legislation of Ukraine. I have copies of it now too.

Since the notarial office in the LC was then ... It is better to say that it did not exist, then copies of passports were not assured in Alchevsk, but in another settlement. Brainstorming Authority and OSCE Mission Assistance helped.

And on that day, Anna Samelyuk sent this package to Kiev. From Russian Donetsk, of course. Here is a copy of the receipt.



Further, 5 May, this package was received by the Ministry of Justice. Here is a scan of the departure movement report from the Russian postal service.



Well, having a man in Kiev, it was easy to find out that on May 8, the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice satisfied the request of citizens of the Brain, Kozlov and Sameliuk in registration. It remains the case for small: someone personally (or authorized person) to pick up a certificate of registration.

What happened on May 8 in Alchevsk? If anyone knows, there was an anti-fascist forum. About a hundred people came from all over Europe: Spaniards, Greeks, French, Serbs, Slovaks, Bulgarians. There were both ours and Ukrainians. It is difficult to say today who “leaked” information that the Brain Social Movement has been registered. I managed to find four people who took part in this forum, but only one, Zlatko Stojkovic, answered me the question of when and from where it became known about registration. He specifically learned from a friend from the OSCE, but by evening everyone knew.

The forum also became the birthday of the new organization. And at the same time, the “People’s Revival” received, as it were, international recognition, since representatives of other public organizations naturally expressed a desire to cooperate and help.

I have no evidence that the registration took place. For obvious reasons. But on the video, the former chief of staff of the "Ghost" Shevchenko at a mourning rally speaks about it quite openly. And he, along with the "Good" was fully aware of what is happening. 6-minute recording.



By the way, I will note that the holding in Alchevsk of this forum was met by the authorities of the LNR without enthusiasm. But no one began to quarrel with representatives of foreign, including humanitarian organizations.

Reentated at the parade in honor of 9 May, if you remember. The parade was strictly forbidden.

Let's summarize some results.

1. Kombrig, and now the politician, Brainstorming, has registered the NGO "National Revival".

2. This NGO was at that time the ONLY public organization recognized by Ukraine on the territory of the LPR since the actual separation of the republic.

3. To doubt that this organization will receive the support of the population, to be honest, it would be foolish. The work was done, and it was done well.

4. According to the Minsk agreements, regarding the elections, the Brain and other members of his organization registered as deputies are the only ones Ukraine would recognize.

In the DPR, too, at that time there was only one such organization. Party "MMM" Pushilina. But where is Pushilin and where is Brainstorming ...

Personally, I have no doubts about the effect that this information could produce, for example, in the MGB LNR, and also submitted in proper form.

"Brainstorming is a traitor! He conspired with the Ukraine, they registered a party for him so that he could go to the polls! Here are the proofs!"

Can you imagine such a tantrum in any office of the MGB? And I can. And I can well imagine the victory of the Brain in elections not only in Alchevsk, but also in Lugansk.

Indeed, the situation can be interpreted in two ways. Apparently, somewhere she was interpreted as required. And we all know the result. Mozgovoy’s intractable politician with his rather peculiar ideas of building a republic turned out to be much worse than a brigade commander with three thousand soldiers, tanks and Grads.

And do not forget about the forbidden space bridges with representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Removed from the road tough and professional. Not arranging a kindergarten sample of May 2014 of the year, without wacky makeshift crackers, as in 2015. Clearly and smoothly.

Well, ask me, and what Kozlov? The third of the founders?

I don't know.

Andrei "Sledak" Kozlov was arrested the day after the death of the Brain and Samelyuk. At first he could still talk on the phone, write. He applied for help to his friends, he needed treatment, he was even transferred to the hospital. Kidney problems. They say he was just killed during interrogations.

And now, six months from him there is nothing. No one knows where he is, find out at least something is not possible. Those who want to risk less and less in the LC. Although among people who are aware of what is happening, there is a perception that Andrei has long been dead.

Summary. Alexey Borisovich Mozgovoy died not because of friction with the Cossacks. Not because of the economic relations with the Alchevsk Combine. Not because of the actions of the Ukrainian DRG. And not because of their betrayal, who wanted in his place. Although people from his entourage played a role in the whole story. But more about that another time.

The bottom line is that in our opinion, a certain number of sheets of paper with printed marks turned out to be more terrible for someone than tanks and guns. More terrible than the campaign of the "Ghost" in Lugansk, which was promised in its time, in the heat of the moment.

I think the answer to the question "for what?" came out quite intelligible. There are, of course, more questions, "who is to blame?" and "who benefits?" But it makes sense to return to them in a separate conversation, especially since there is more than enough information for reflection and analysis.

So back.
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  1. Riv
    Riv 28 March 2016 08: 05
    +32
    In short: their killed. Well, who doubted that?
    1. Niki
      Niki 28 March 2016 08: 37
      +11
      I doubt it. I doubt that the killers were "ours."
      And I think that the author of the text also doubts. It's just that the article gives only one version and it is likely to continue, with the expansion of the circle.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        28 March 2016 08: 42
        +36
        Yes, one version. At one time we gave four. Wrong. Here is the fifth and most logical. And there will be a continuation, you just need to read the received documents well in letters, and think things over well.
        The version of the involvement of some intelligence services is not swept aside and is being worked out too.
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        2. siberalt
          siberalt 28 March 2016 10: 13
          +10
          The author’s version clarifies a lot. Indeed, the puzzle develops.
          Respect to the author!
        3. Shveps
          Shveps 28 March 2016 10: 34
          +20
          Quote: Banshee
          Wrong.


          Not bad to die in May
          The grave digger is convenient to dig.
          And all the nightingales will sing,
          For the last time, so awesome.

          Under the crash of the first May thunderstorms,
          Instead of sad funerals ...

          And the rain will fall instead of tears,
          He will wash away the sadness of the memories.

          Grave mound shelters,
          Under the veil of green herbs.

          Even if the cross is not worth it,
          Among birches tired.

          Under the rustle of the leaves of young,
          That only stretched to life.

          There are no grasses yet,
          And only, only all woke up.

          Not bad to die in May ...
          Stay in the freshness of spring.

          And though I could not do everything,
          But there is no doubt left ...
          Not bad, die in May ...

          A.B. Cerebral
          1. Shveps
            Shveps 28 March 2016 10: 44
            +26
            May 21, 2015 The commanders of the army of the Luhansk People's Republic Alexey Mozgovoy and Pavel Dremov appealed to the Russian authorities with a request to support the Russian Project, media reported. They are sure that the reason for the events in Ukraine lies, among other things, in the absence of a national idea in the Russian Federation and the lack of development of the rights of the divided Russian people.
            Mozgovoy and Dremov sent an appeal to the head of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Sergei Naryshkin and Speaker of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko. The text notes that the conflict in the south-east of Ukraine was provoked by the fact that the Kiev authorities tried to "de-Russify Novorossia", did not pay attention to the Russian issue.
            “Providing armed opposition to the genocide of the Russian people on the territory of the former Ukraine, we, like no one else, feel the absence of legal norms in relation to the world's largest divided people,” the appeal says.
            "And, despite the difference between the phrases" damned "and" the Russian-speaking population, "the tendency is the same - the depersonalization and disintegration of the Russian people," Mozgovoy and Dremov note.
            The "Russian project", which Mozgovoy and Dremov are proposing to consider to the Russian authorities, involves the organization of a commission on the problems of the Russian people at the Federal Assembly of Russia and legislative assemblies of the constituent entities of the Federation. On this basis, it is proposed to create a Russian People's Assembly.
            The authors of the appeal complain that the project was agreed in a number of Russian ministries, but did not meet with support from the head of the State Duma committee on nationalities.
            “Time has shown that only with the presence of the National Project and the consolidation of the Russian people can one respond to modern threats," Mozgovoy and Dremov note. They stressed that not only Russians, but also representatives of many other nations pay dearly for the absence of a national idea.

            The full text of the appeal is on the internet.
            1. Warrior Hamilton
              Warrior Hamilton 28 March 2016 13: 30
              +23
              Something. I don’t remember that Russia would bother with the national idea of ​​a divided Russian people. The government and the president of Ukraine are recognized by Russia, Russia has confirmed their legitimacy, which means its structure. Headache - problematic gas pipe. In an attempt to duplicate it, there is nothing to boast of Russian diplomacy. The West is firmly holding Russia for Coca in this matter. Also Crimea .... and while the West will say that this is annexation, we want it or not want it is annexation. The existence of rebellious regions threatens the integrity of Ukraine for horses and the reason for extortion and speculation against Russia. Russia, which famously took part in alien fights, for another's oil, keeps silent when it is told that it violates some Minsk agreements - it’s strange somehow ...
              Everyone knows perfectly well that Ukraine will kill until it kills itself or kills the last one - that’s its meaning. Everyone sees that they are preparing for this in the fall and no one intervenes. Everyone knows that this can be stopped and no one is stopping.
              Sorry for Brain. He believed in supreme justice. Sorry for all the innocently killed.
              Light memory to them!
              1. Uncle Murzik
                Uncle Murzik 31 March 2016 06: 36
                0
                and that Russia is a party to the Minsk talks?
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          1. Shveps
            Shveps 28 March 2016 11: 23
            +15
            Putin and Lavrov announced the "closure of the Novorossiya project. The murder of Kombrig Mozgovoy became a kind of symbol of this closure. Since Alexei Borisovich himself has been a symbol of Novorossia in recent months, the real Novorossia for which the Russian Volunteers rose, and which has been drenched in blood today. the best sons were sold and betrayed - the Judas, whose "cunning plan" consisted and consists of only one thing: the utilization of the best People of the Russian People, the Russian World, and through this, if it comes out, the utilization of the Idea itself.

            It is precisely on the utilization of this idea that the Skomorokhovs' delusional insinuations are directed.
            And it was for this that he was killed by Brain.
            1. Mobius
              Mobius 28 March 2016 11: 40
              +2
              Quote: Shveps
              Putin and Lavrov announced the “closure of the Novorossiya project.” The murder of Kombrig Mozgovoy became a kind of symbol of this closure.


              I.I.Strelkov speaks about this practically "word for word".

            2. SU69
              SU69 28 March 2016 11: 49
              +2
              Quote: Shveps
              Putin and Lavrov announced the "closure of the Novorossiya project. The murder of Kombrig Mozgovoy became a kind of symbol of this closure. Since Alexei Borisovich himself has been a symbol of Novorossia in recent months, the real Novorossia for which the Russian Volunteers rose, and which has been drenched in blood today. the best sons were sold and betrayed - the Judas, whose "cunning plan" consisted and consists of only one thing: the utilization of the best People of the Russian People, the Russian World, and through this, if it comes out, the utilization of the Idea itself.

              It is precisely on the utilization of this idea that the Skomorokhovs' delusional insinuations are directed.
              And it was for this that he was killed by Brain.

              Bull's-eye ! hi
            3. Captain45
              Captain45 28 March 2016 15: 33
              +9
              Please, tell me when, where and by whom specifically Putin, Lavrov, or both together
              Quote: Shveps
              it was announced about the "closure of the" Novorossiya "project.
              and give a link to it. And it turns out, as one well-known commander, at the moment our contingent entered Syria, shouted: "Russia will lose in Syria, the second Afghanistan, we will be defeated and all will perish" and what we see in the end. Let me remind you that last week there were 100 -yi (SOTY, Karl) a convoy with humanitarian aid. Taking into account that there are 52 weeks in a year, it turns out that in two years almost every week there is help to Donbass. Do you have a question - why help a closed project?
              1. Warrior Hamilton
                Warrior Hamilton 28 March 2016 17: 18
                .
                Sorry to interrupt the conversation, but I want to know: you, as a Russian, what benefit do you have from the oil showdown in Syria? What did Russia want in Syria?
                With Israel, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, the Kurds, it is clear with them - they live there. What America does there, even local camels know - they rule there ..
                The original version was like this:
                1. ISIS must be destroyed on the far approaches to Russia, since they threaten the Caucasus and Russia.
                2.Russia needs military bases in Syria?
                At a large press conference of Putin: the results of 2015, the president said:
                "The modern weapons that Russia has, makes it possible not to have its own military bases around the world. At the same time, the maintenance of a large number of military facilities abroad is a serious burden for any state. Russia, as the military operation in Syria has shown, has modern missiles that can hit targets several thousand kilometers away. Strategic aviation, which has recently joined the operation against IS, has also confirmed its combat capability. "
                3 ". We are going to a sacred cause - to help out a comrade with kichi!"
                It’s a strange thing .... for four years there was a civil war, people watched it on TV and suddenly inflamed with love for the "brotherly" Arab people and President Assad. True, before that, Donbas was recognized for two years, but, thank God, Minsk-2 is like a stone wall. Thank God! Asad slept! Do not mind the money spent!
                4. Have tested the latest weapon systems!
                Indeed, the opportunity was given to test the weapon in a combat situation, but Kapustin Yar is not for you. For example, America, for example, constantly fights, constantly experiences ... Therefore, the hegemon ... There is something in this ...
                5. Peacekeeping - educational mission.
                They convinced the irresponsible Arabs that killing people and cutting off their heads was not good!
                We must take an example from the conscious Arabs. The irresponsible Arabs promised not to do this anymore and behave well when Russia leaves Syria.
                Duc, what is it that is so distracting from household chores? What is so good about that?
                1. domokl
                  domokl 28 March 2016 17: 26
                  +24
                  Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                  You, as a Russian, what benefit do you have from the oil showdown in Syria? What did Russia want in Syria?

                  Hmm ... I, as a simple Russian, have absolutely nothing from flying into space, from building a bridge to the Crimea, from the Olympics in Sochi, from the annexation of Crimea ...
                  the difference is simple. I’m exactly a Russian. And for me, a Russian, Russia is higher than its own wallet and its own life ... Something like this ...
                2. Captain45
                  Captain45 28 March 2016 17: 38
                  +12
                  Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                  I want to know: you, as a Russian, what benefit do you have from the oil showdown in Syria? What did Russia want in Syria?

                  I answer, like a Russian, to a Scottish warrior (you are a Scotsman, judging by your nickname): I am quite satisfied that Qatar with its gas pipeline project to Europe through Syria has broken off, which means that Europe will receive gas from Gazprom, which means it will depend on Regardless of the sanctions, Russia will pay for this in foreign currency to the Russian budget. Well, as for the rest of the nishtyaks, you yourself outlined quite well. By the way, orders for Russian weapons, after demonstrating them in Syria, have already covered the amount spent on their use. Of course you can hardly see it from the Scottish mountains, well, nothing, you will see soon.
                  1. Warrior Hamilton
                    Warrior Hamilton 28 March 2016 18: 07
                    -2
                    The position was explained specifically! If it is your way, I will only be happy for Mother Russia. And I also like that you are interested not only in: "Russia and life - like a Latvian and the Olympics" hi
                    1. Warrior Hamilton
                      Warrior Hamilton 30 March 2016 19: 34
                      -1
                      Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                      "Russia and life - like a Latvian and the Olympics"

                      to whom it seemed offensive, then this is a footnote on
                      Quote: domokl
                      , Russia is higher than its own wallet and its own life ... Something like this ...

                      Quote: domokl
                      Hmm ... I, as a simple Russian, have absolutely nothing from flying into space, from building a bridge to the Crimea, from the Olympics in Sochi, from the annexation of Crimea ...
                      whether "Tender May", or - "Pioneer Dawn" "Orphans" have always been able to make money in Russia.
                      I liked the answer to my question more why suddenly Russia should be defended not in Taganrog, but in Syria
                      Quote: Captain45
                      I am quite satisfied that Qatar with its gas pipeline project to Europe through Syria has broken off, which means that Europe will receive gas from Gazprom, which means it will depend on Russia and will pay, regardless of the sanctions, for this in currency to the Russian budget. Well, as for the rest of the nishtyaks, you yourself outlined well. By the way, orders for Russian weapons, after demonstrating them in Syria, have already covered the amount spent on their use. Of course, you can hardly see this from the Scottish mountains, well, nothing, you will see soon.

                      If someone was offended: "at Taganrog", then this is from what General Skobelev said: "The border must be defended at Kushka - if we do not want to defend it later at Taganrog." Kushku ........ request
                3. bbss
                  bbss 28 March 2016 21: 31
                  +9
                  Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                  You, as a Russian, what benefit do you have

                  Symptom of degeneration. My former neighbor left for Israel. A few years later, my daughter went to visit dad. So he got money from her for living.
                  1. Warrior Hamilton
                    Warrior Hamilton 28 March 2016 22: 45
                    -2
                    You make a person inferior by grabbing a phrase of his conversation with another person. We didn’t intersect in picks, we never discussed any topics before. You did not introduce yourself as a doctor and diagnose on the Internet, virtually ... And which of us is degenerating? request
                  2. Warrior Hamilton
                    Warrior Hamilton 28 March 2016 23: 19
                    -2
                    What is my friend minus? Offended by the question?
                    Quote: bbss
                    Symptom of degeneration.
                    - this is degeneration in the book, and the degenerate is a geek, so that you are twice not D "Artagnan.
                4. Warrior Hamilton
                  Warrior Hamilton 28 March 2016 22: 24
                  +6
                  I will always evaluate Russia's policy not by Syria, but by the Donbass, like all Russians living outside Russia. For us, this is important - how does Russia relate to Russians, yet ....
                  1. 72jora72
                    72jora72 30 March 2016 09: 01
                    +2
                    I will always evaluate Russia's policy not by Syria, but by the Donbass, like all Russians living outside Russia. For us, this is important - how does Russia relate to Russians, yet ....
                    And what have you personally done, dear Donbass???? P .... not to roll bags then .....
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                5. Kombrig
                  Kombrig 29 March 2016 00: 25
                  +9
                  Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                  Sorry to interrupt the conversation, but I want to know: you, as a Russian, what benefit do you have from the oil showdown in Syria? What did Russia want in Syria?

                  Support Assad’s regime so that Qatar in turn doesn’t allow Qatar to pull the gas pipeline through Syria, so that Qatar in turn does not create competition for our gas supplies to Europe .... And yes, to me personally, nothing was wrong with that , like no one in the USSR, money fell from Gagarin’s flight, but he didn’t fly for nothing ..)))
                  1. Warrior Hamilton
                    Warrior Hamilton 29 March 2016 11: 30
                    +3
                    Brigade commander, plagiarize. The first part is the response of the respected Captain 45, who outlined his point of view with humor. Notice that I asked him about it. The second part is from a gentleman who did not answer questions, but decided to teach grandfather patriotism. He didn’t say anything, but as a sign of solidarity he fell asleep with pluses. What do you want? Here I put you a plus! Well ?
                    I ask uncomfortable questions and they were simply blundered by the fact that they do not harmonize with the vision of a patriot!
                    1. ISIS must be destroyed on the far approaches to Russia, since they threaten the Caucasus and Russia. - Noodles on the ears of Lehtorat, therefore, have not been fulfilled. At the time, they understood with whom they contacted and thank God!
                    2. Which Qatar, which gas pipeline? You can’t do anything with the Ukrainian pipe. The West pedals as it wants. The South Stream did not work, Turkish and North-2 hung. (I in no case do not gloat this real state of affairs) Qatar gas will be necessary for Europe, they will arrange a policy of scorched earth and the whole world will help and carry them out. Russia will nervously smoke on the sidelines, mumble something at the UN and -all! So it was with Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Libya, Iraq and the Donbass — the same story.
                    3. Russia does not know what to do with the Donbass. Partially Syrian blitzkrieg is associated with this. They dragged on the time to solve their problems, rattled it with weapons, streamed, promoted, and collected information about the reaction to actions. Obama Pete did not give the go-ahead. Everyone is waiting for the continuation of the war. The wounded hyena continues to eat its guts.
                    4. An adult, write nonsense: "[quote = Kombrig] And yes, to me personally, nothing fell from this, just as no one in the USSR got money from Gagarin's flight, but he did not fly in vain ..))) [/ quot Nobody asks you whether to spend on space or not. Pay taxes and use the achievements of space in communications, medicine, technology, etc., the further, the more.
                    5 Well, the last:
                    Members of the forum are showing enviable solidarity in supporting rudeness by minus the opponent who was insulted or who was rude and he responded to rudeness. In military service, and in civilian life, they usually reprimand such people or banally beat the face. I am writing this because I am on the site, where many correspondents, quite deservedly, end what they wrote with the phrase: "I have the honor!"
                    Tired of a little ... Most likely it is better to see each other when there is something to compare ...
                    Be quiet, Kuma: and you, like me, are sinful,
                    And you will break every word;
                    In a stranger - 3,14-- - you see a straw
                    And you don't see a log in your home. "
                    1. Kombrig
                      Kombrig 29 March 2016 23: 14
                      +3
                      Warrior Hamilton

                      Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                      Brigade commander, plagiarize. The first part is the response of the respected Captain 45,

                      If you don’t bother to look at my profile and read my comments, then two weeks ago I already gave a similar answer to another comrade, in another article, just when you reply to comments, only after the answer you read the answers of other people, so that this is just a technical overlay ..


                      Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                      What do you want? Here I put you a plus! Well ?

                      Nothing at all .. I’ve been on the forum since the 12th year, and still not even a general))) so that I’m not chasing the pluses ...

                      Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                      . Which Qatar, which gas pipeline? You can’t do anything with the Ukrainian pipe. The West pedals as it wants. The South Stream did not work, Turkish and North-2 hung.

                      Technically, it is only an hour to resolve the issue with the valve, but the trouble is that contracts with the Europeans do not allow this, but soon their terms will expire, and when renegotiating, the most interesting thing should begin ... And as for "pedaling" by the West, it’s difficult to agree play on someone else's field and according to someone else's rules, which are constantly changing ...

                      Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                      Europe will need Qatari gas, they will arrange a policy of scorched earth, and the whole world will help and carry them out. Russia will nervously smoke on the sidelines, mumble something at the UN and -all!

                      If you haven't noticed, this is exactly what started in Syria .... Only this time, Russia's intervention seriously confused the plans of the "partners" ...


                      Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                      Nobody asks you to spend on space or not. Pay taxes and use the achievements of space in communications, medicine, technology, etc., the further, the more.


                      So no one asks you if the Russian Air Force is needed in Syria, pay taxes and take advantage of the geopolitical benefits of this operation in the future ....

                      I hope I answered your opus ... If not, then please PM, so as not to litter the thread with personal clarifications ... Regards ...
                      1. Warrior Hamilton
                        Warrior Hamilton 29 March 2016 23: 53
                        +1
                        I am sure that we will debate well more than once
                        Quote: Kombrig
                        .Yours faithfully...
                        - Mutually! hi
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                    5. 72jora72
                      72jora72 30 March 2016 09: 26
                      +1
                      . (I in no case do not gloat this real state of affairs)
                      You do not gloat, no, you are just an ordinary fan of the shit on the fan, that's all.
                      yes, to me personally, nothing fell from this, just like no one in the USSR lost money from Gagarin’s flight, but he didn’t fly for nothing ..)))
                      but on this your phrase I can tell you that you are an ordinary sofa .....schmo to the Russian world not having any relation .....
                      In military service, and in civilian life, they usually make such remarks to such people or simply beat their faces
                      Unfortunately you probably beat her a little .....
                      1. Warrior Hamilton
                        Warrior Hamilton 30 March 2016 10: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: domokl
                        Hmm ... I, as a simple Russian, have absolutely nothing from flying into space, from building a bridge to the Crimea, from the Olympics in Sochi, from the annexation of Crimea ...

                        Quote: Kombrig
                        And yes, to me personally, nothing fell from this, just like no one in the USSR got money from Gagarin’s flight, but he didn’t fly for nothing ..)))

                        Here is my answer:
                        Quote: Warrior Hamilton
                        e No one asks you to spend on space or not. Pay taxes and use the achievements of space in communications, medicine, technology, etc., the further, the more.

                        Why is it like you to throw a fan, the stink is such that no one comes close.
                    6. Victor Demchenko
                      Victor Demchenko 31 March 2016 09: 23
                      0
                      All previous comments were left unrated, and for this - definitely PLUS.
                      sensibly, and what is most, this is your opinion and assessment strikingly coincides with my vision of the situation. on the forum it was repeatedly said that with the Novorossiya project not everything is so simple, and at one time in Donetsk they directly advised me: go ... wai to your Russia, you have nothing to do here! so in my opinion, not everything so smoothly in the Kingdom of Dat ... sorry Russian!
                6. Uncle Murzik
                  Uncle Murzik 31 March 2016 06: 43
                  0
                  Donbass is written with two c! And the fifth and main, Assad does not allow to conduct a gas pipeline from Qatar!
              2. Mobius
                Mobius 28 March 2016 17: 27
                0
                Quote: Captain45
                Let me remind you that last week in the Donbass passed the 100th (SOTYI, Karl) convoy with humanitarian aid.


                Fiftieth, Captain Evidence,fiftieth anniversary yes ...

                Where, with such knowledge "materiel"?

                24.03.2016 Fifty humanitarian convoy from Russia arrived in Lugansk
                http://17tv.com.ua/news/top-chart/155244
            4. dogens
              dogens 30 March 2016 11: 24
              -1
              Quote: Shveps
              Putin and Lavrov announced the "closure of the Novorossiya project. The murder of Kombrig Mozgovoy became a kind of symbol of this closure. Since Alexei Borisovich himself has been a symbol of Novorossia in recent months, the real Novorossia for which the Russian Volunteers rose, and which has been drenched in blood today. the best sons were sold and betrayed - the Judas, whose "cunning plan" consisted and consists of only one thing: the utilization of the best People of the Russian People, the Russian World, and through this, if it comes out, the utilization of the Idea itself.

              It is precisely on the utilization of this idea that the Skomorokhovs' delusional insinuations are directed.
              And it was for this that he was killed by Brain.


              Unfortunately, those Judas who rule projects of such a scale do not see people at point blank range. It is clear that there is a vertical Hierarchy, at each level of which there are interests and a plan for their embodiment.
              At first, between Mozgov, the same Strelkov, other militias, many politicians and businessmen, the plan coincided. I do not say that the interest coincided. But the overall plan and the result was fine with everyone. Civil war by the Kalashnikov assault rifle. The result is the emergence of Novorosia (it does not matter as part of the Russian Federation or separately). Interests: for Patriots (like Brain for example) it is life and freedom of people, for businessmen it is a new market with a base prepared by Ukraine, with production, infrastructure networks and cheap gas of the Russian Federation, not a bad bunch. Subsequently, depending on the state of affairs, the development of the situation, the reaction of Western opponents (and they also made proposals and set ultimatums), the plan for achieving goals, as well as the interests themselves, changed. Mozgovoy continued to see a bright idea, which he was pierced to the core, and politicians and businessmen saw (or hinted to them) that the continuation of New Russia would not bring money, and abandonment of the idea would give other bonuses. And not the fact that Putin and Lavrov give the go-ahead. Their existence in their places is connected with the ability to balance between the monetary elite and the common people. And the fact that more often the bias towards the elites is not their fault, but the people. Because the elite is pressing on them, and we are sitting and complaining. So, these people are doing more so far, and are capable of more than other Judas, with money, connections and other instruments of power. Rejoice that they (or the elites) have an understanding that without Russia all Russian Judas will go around the world, they will not be able to live so sweetly in other countries, and the policy of the Russian Federation has become tougher.
              There is no plan for the disposal of people. There is a plan to make money from a business by any means, in any conditions. And if there are people who oppose, or have other interests, they are already "utilized" as a consequence, and not as a primary cause.
            5. dogens
              dogens 30 March 2016 11: 34
              +1
              By the way, I accidentally remembered Strelkov, where is he now and why is he not disposed of? by whose protectorate?)

              I don’t know how it relates to him, especially after he increasingly began to support our white opposition. But on the other hand, the situation with Brain makes you think where all this is coming from. And it is clear why he changed sides. It’s as if your own people don’t need you, and they grind their own teeth on you, how does this relate and what to do?
              In general, if we compare it with the situation on the topic, we can say that Strelkov might be lucky, agreed on time and stepped aside.
              And then Khodokovsky. It has been written about him, both good and bad kilometers. How to evaluate? Who are all these people? Brain, Strelkov, Khodokovsky? Heroes and martyrs who became victims and did not recognize the change in the vector of politics, who defended the holy idea? Or are they criminals who did not submit to senior command, common interests? After all, they are military people and the orders of the command are not subject to discussion. And I agree that maybe they should not be put all in one line, they may have seen different ideas, and had different goals, but they are in approximately the same situation.
          2. Pereira
            Pereira 28 March 2016 11: 23
            +2
            Thank you for the video with Givi, but I did not catch the connection between the article and the story about Khodakovsky.
            1. Mobius
              Mobius 28 March 2016 11: 52
              +4
              Quote: Pereira
              Thank you for the video with Givi, but I did not catch the connection between the article and the story about Khodakovsky.


              If you do not belong to the category of those who read Skomorokhov’s articles in pink glasses, and at the same time you read them for a long time and quite thoughtfully and carefully, then it should be clear to you yourself that from article to article especially recently, the author has stepped up his support for Khodakovsky and the blackening of the political and military leadership of the republics, which is due to either personal interests or an order.

              And my message was that it is possible to trust information of at least NOT a PRINCIPAL person, including on Brain?

              And should he, the one for whom the rather acute questions of "the stigma in the gun" have not yet been removed, write about the Hero?
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 28 March 2016 12: 01
                +7
                I am not inclined to recklessly trust anyone at all.
                I do not specifically follow the work of Skomorokhov and cannot confirm or deny his support for Khodakovsky.
                But it is in this article that everything is painted very convincingly. The likelihood of the appearance of an equally convincing counter-article, with another convincing version, I assess low.
                1. g1v2
                  g1v2 28 March 2016 17: 07
                  +4
                  Honestly, I am stealing. In my opinion, for any thinking person, it is clear that all media have positions and, as a rule, they promote someone else's version of events. Personally, I am quite satisfied with Mozgovoy’s phrase about Banshee’s friendship with the FSB to draw clear conclusions. For starters, this means that he, like the entire site, is on the side of my country. I completely trust the office and friendship with her is a plus in karma lol . And this is a lot in our time. It is clear that the version that is put forward in the articles shows the event from the desired point of view. I have nothing against . request I certainly won’t blindly trust and I’m not going to substitute my opinion with the opinion of Banshee, but I also have no desire to argue with him. Personally, I believe that the same Mozgovoy was killed because of the Alchevsk Iron and Steel Works and Alchevsk Coke Chemical. It refers to a hundred million dollars a year - they didn’t kill for that kind of money, and until 2014, trade union activists disappeared there. And Banshee, with his investigation, wants to direct the matter to some political side and put pressure on someone. Maybe it’s necessary - xs, but so far I don’t see evidence for accusing someone of murder - the next version and indirect facts are nothing more. request
                  Mozgovoy’s fan was never and considered him a very prudent person with plans for politics and business, and not a shirtless guy and a fiery revolutionary, but still he impressed me a decent person who cares about his people and a peaceful person. Wh can we leave him alone? hi
                  1. domokl
                    domokl 28 March 2016 17: 31
                    +3
                    Quote: g1v2
                    Brain was killed because of the Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant and Alchevsk Coke. There it goes

                    Fi ... somehow it’s not seriously writing. I’ll be silent about the FSB and other terrible structures .. Who knows what ... but about this version ... She really was upstairs and Banshee was one of the first to voice it. It was just that these American rubles were pricked.
                    But today, after almost a year after death, what has changed there? Nothing! So the garbage version ...
                    1. g1v2
                      g1v2 28 March 2016 18: 38
                      +3
                      And what was supposed to change? They executed the man - nothing has changed. Nationalization did not happen anyway. request In my opinion, money is the most likely motivator for liquidation. All the others are inferior to him at times in probability. Policy ? Come on . Whoever dines with the girl dances her. Money is allocated to the republics from the Russian Federation, which means whoever needs the Russian Federation will determine the policies of the republics. The republics themselves will not survive without help, which means whoever takes the lead, he will have to pay salaries, benefits, supplies, again. request Performed by professionals - no leads, no witnesses, no accidental casualties along the way. Drg ukrov executed two assassination attempts in a row? And where did they hang out between attempts? Or ran through the ribbon twice in a row? In my opinion it is unlikely.
                      Someone from the MGB? And no one remembered that some unit in the direction of Alchevsk was leaving at the time of the murder? And if the flare on the road - all the familiar circle. And how to shut up their mouths - the MBB is not a gru of the RF Ministry of Defense. Someone may blab or shine. request
                      In my opinion, the brigade of killers arrived openly or hired one from the local. Someone from a ghost was definitely bought - he lighthouse when to wait and where. We prepared a position, worked it out and returned to the city calmly EMPTY AND ONE. Then we parted and received the money either on Ukrainian territory or in the Russian Federation. In my opinion the most likely version. It will not work to prove it, but also to refute it. But the trade union activist there already disappeared before the war - this is a fact. hi
                      1. domokl
                        domokl 28 March 2016 18: 59
                        +1
                        Quote: g1v2
                        But the trade union activist there already disappeared before the war - this is a fact.

                        We examined the technology of work last year. I agree it worked out very professionally. Although there are a couple of extra corpses .. This is not a success.
                        Who has done the work, too, is silent. There are thoughts, but no papers so far.
                        Today, the conversation was about who benefits and why
              2. Colonel
                Colonel 28 March 2016 12: 46
                +2
                Quote: Möbius
                sharp questions have not yet been addressed

                on "sensitive issues" do not enlighten?
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          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 28 March 2016 13: 57
            +5
            Quote: Möbius
            Is it not you, the author, who, for certain reasons (the description of which is worthy of an investigation), have fought a tough fight with A.B.

            Yes Banshni did not scatter them, others are doing it. As for the struggle itself, Banshee passed the humanitarian aid to the brain for millions, but then part of the aid transferred to him began to disappear somewhere. There were legitimate questions that Mozgovoy tried to answer. Rather, he was forced to answer. It is a pity that the recording that you posted does not contain part of the conversation when they ask questions. Maybe they tell you what to answer?
            1. Mobius
              Mobius 28 March 2016 14: 24
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Yes Banshni did not scatter them, others are doing it. As for the struggle itself, Banshee passed the humanitarian aid to the brain for millions, but then part of the aid transferred to him began to disappear somewhere. There were legitimate questions that Mozgovoy tried to answer.

              And Mozgovoy answered in his usual manner - "Rubanul from the shoulder", starting the procedure of opening the process of delivery and distribution of humanitarian aid.



              And after that it began ...

              And the laundering of the "Bear" coat, and Skomorokhov's raids on Mozgovoy ...
              And as a result, the curtailment of the activities of the "volunteer Skomorokhov" and PR reports on the "work done".

              By the way, those who are sure that "a brave volunteer, risking his life, under a hail of bullets, bypassing craters" and other "Tra-Ta-Ta", took help to the LPR, I DISAPPOIN ...

              Mr. Skomorokhov, NEVER CROSSED GOS, THE BORDERS OF THE LPR AND THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

          4. vostok sibiri
            vostok sibiri 28 March 2016 14: 57
            +8
            Mobius (5) "Don't you, a journalist who is blindly revered because of his" glorious volunteer past, "know what motives Mozgovoy's killers were guided by?"

            Full name:
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            - Where does this awareness and rating come from?
            1. Mobius
              Mobius 28 March 2016 15: 06
              -4
              Quote: vostok sibiri
              Mobius (5) "Don't you, a journalist who is blindly revered because of his" glorious volunteer past, "know what motives Mozgovoy's killers were guided by?"

              Full name:
              Group: Visitors
              Date of visit: March 28 2016 14: 46
              Registration Date: 2 March 2016 09: 59
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              Comments: 419 [Recent Comments]
              Rating: 40212 +
              - Where does this awareness and rating come from?


              Do you suspect that the rating is "bloated"? Not at all. I'm not a thug.

              Rating and awareness is the result of diligence and the ability to find the right information, and correctly present it ... And the rating is for the readers.

              And just ...
              1. vostok sibiri
                vostok sibiri 28 March 2016 15: 40
                +5
                Mobius (5)
                "Do you suspect that the rating is" inflated "? Absolutely not. I'm not a thug."
                -Well, what do you mean, I mean that "tryndet" is not to roll bags. Although, to each his own (someone is engaged in real business, someone at the computer "performs feats").
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          5. Dalmatia
            Dalmatia 28 March 2016 17: 02
            +9
            Mobius, it’s not entirely clear, on the video the woman answers questions, and who is asking these questions? This is an investigative action or an off-screen journalist. As for the issues themselves, according to the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation leading questions are prohibited. This woman was asked precisely guiding questions that already contained the answer. The woman could only agree. My opinion is that a woman speaks involuntarily, to the camera and exactly what she was told (or obliged) to say, or maybe intimidated.
            Now, according to the comments of Brain. From what I heard, as I understood it, Mozgovoy was most offended that they hinted at his Russian Internet resource about his personal (or love) relationship with his subordinate Anna.
            I remember that article by Skomorokhov, and it seemed to me reasoned, but there were no arguments in Brain's answer.
            And the last.
            Möbius, you have the right here to express your opinion on Skomorokhov, but it is advisable to do this without insults and unfounded accusations.
            Today, Skomorokhov has something to respect, for the humanitarian assistance that he delivered during the war.
            But for what it is personal respect for you, it is not yet clear.
            1. Mobius
              Mobius 28 March 2016 17: 15
              0
              Quote: Dalmatia
              Möbius, you have the right here to express your opinion on Skomorokhov, but it is advisable to do this without insults and unfounded accusations.


              Not a word of insult was written against Skomorokhov. Questions have been asked that he will soon have to answer. Answer not to me, but to real professional journalists who are already "shoveling" his "work", and not with a sapper shovel as an author, but with a bucket wheel excavator ...

              The myth is created, the myth must be debunked.
              1. Dalmatia
                Dalmatia 28 March 2016 17: 31
                +6
                Name these professional journalists who are "already" shoveling "his" work ", and not a sapper shovel as an author, but a bucket wheel excavator ..."
                And secondly, did these journalists themselves tell you about this?
                1. Mobius
                  Mobius 28 March 2016 18: 09
                  -1
                  Quote: Dalmatia
                  Name these professional journalists who are "already" shoveling "his" work ", and not a sapper shovel as an author, but a bucket wheel excavator ..."
                  And secondly, did these journalists themselves tell you about this?


                  You received the answer in private messages.
                  1. Dalmatia
                    Dalmatia 28 March 2016 19: 19
                    0
                    I received a personal message, but there is no answer to my question.
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        6. Pereira
          Pereira 28 March 2016 11: 01
          +6
          Roman, thanks for the investigation.
          It remains to analyze the alignment in the event that Brain would have succeeded.
          I am very short and at the level of first impressions of what I read.
          The consequences of the Mozgovoy step could be disastrous.
          Regardless of his personality, the power of the Outskirts, if they are, of course, not finished (literary word used by Dostoevsky but prohibited on the site), with all limbs would cling to such an opportunity to split the LPR into kosher separatists and clubs.
          Kosher, informationally, would act within the framework of the Minsk agreements and the theoretical federalization of the Outskirts, but all the rest are definitely and forever international terrorists. As a result, Brain becomes the only politician of the LPR recognized at the international level, with all political, ideological and financial consequences. Compared to this, the Alchevsk Combine - so, pah.
          But the main thing is not even that.
          Around his personality, not only his supporters would be grouped, but also, on the instructions of the SBU, pro-Ukrainian personalities, which would ensure him victory in the elections. After which, sooner or later, he would be required to give all, I emphasize, all the others in exchange for a full amnesty. Not immediately, of course, gradually, under very specious pretexts, in exchange for considerable preferences, but all.
          It’s like in a saying - one claw is bogged down, an abyss to the whole bird.
          I’m not sure that Mozgovoy could with honor get out of this situation and get off the hook of the SBU and their curators from the CIA. And they didn’t break it off and tame it.
          1. Captain45
            Captain45 28 March 2016 15: 47
            +2
            Quote: Pereira
            I am very short and at the level of first impressions of what I read.
            The consequences of the Mozgovoy step could be disastrous.

            The first real comment with the analysis of the article good You are right, colleague, the consequences of such a step as the registration in Kiev of a public organization enjoying the undoubted support of the population of the "rebellious", from the Kiev point of view, territory would have very catastrophic consequences.
            Quote: Pereira
            Around his personality, not only his supporters would be grouped, but also, on the instructions of the SBU, pro-Ukrainian personalities, which would ensure him victory in the elections. After which, sooner or later, he would be required to give all, I emphasize, all the others in exchange for a full amnesty. Not immediately, of course, gradually, under very specious pretexts, in exchange for considerable preferences, but all.
            It’s like in a saying - one claw is bogged down, an abyss to the whole bird.
            I’m not sure that Mozgovoy could with honor get out of this situation and get off the hook of the SBU and their curators from the CIA. And they didn’t break it off and tame it.

            Well, it would be the practical implementation of the Minsk agreements, and as a result, the West, relying on such a movement, would recognize it as the legitimate representative of all the warriors in LDNR, Kiev, too, would poke Russia into this fact with a nose and goodbye, Ukraine and all the interests of Russia in this region.
        7. Serg koma
          Serg koma 28 March 2016 15: 11
          +2
          Quote: Banshee
          Here is the fifth, and the most logical.

          Sorry, I did not read all 500 correspondence sheets and other docks, but from the article you can also draw a conclusion to the SIXTH, more logical version.
          Who benefits from the elimination of the brain as a politician?
          The article focuses solely on the death of the brigade commander, the basis of the murder is political competition due to the opening / registration of the PA. The death (possibly of Kozlov) of the other founders of the public organization that occurred almost simultaneously is considered only in passing.
          Let's look at this situation from a different (Kuevsky) point of view.
          It is necessary to hold elections on the territory of the LPR according to Minsk, but according to the laws of dill. This means that it is necessary NOT to ALLOW, or to delay this process as much as possible (which is happening at the present time). The death of the three founders of the NGO puts, albeit a temporary, but an end to the creation of a legitimate (according to the laws of dill) party on the territory of the LPR, then a "loophole" in the law is destroyed (glad to do it at once), for example, a candidate for registration must personally submit documents, and that's it , elections in Donbass, according to Minsk, can be expected indefinitely.
          To kill Mozgovoy for political reasons, because of the "fear" of competitors ... What then were the competitors not afraid to offer him high positions in the LPR ???
          Now back to the article.
          AND WE WILL RECEIVE AN ANSWER (from the Kuevo authorities) FAVORABLE / NOT FAVORABLE (only omitting the name of Mozgova, instead of it we use "OO" People's Revival ")
          1. Kombrig, and now the politician, Brainstorming, has registered the NGO "National Revival".
          2. This NGO was at that time the ONLY public organization recognized by Ukraine on the territory of the LPR since the actual separation of the republic.
          3. To doubt that this organization will receive the support of the population, to be honest, it would be foolish. The work was done, and it was done well.
          4. According to the Minsk agreements, regarding the elections, the Brain and other members of his organization registered as deputies are the only ones Ukraine would recognize.


          CONCLUSION: version No. 5 (article by author Skomorokhov) - paper unsubstantiated opus with attraction of facts "by the ears"

          PS For article "-", it is a pity that one, and not bold.
          1. domokl
            domokl 28 March 2016 17: 44
            +1
            Quote: Serg Koma
            CONCLUSION: version number 5 (article by the author Skomorokhov) - paper unsubstantiated opus with the attraction of facts "by the ears"

            Hmm .. Maybe you’re right .. But in my opinion you don’t own the situation of that period ... Yes, and today ... it’s pure that it’s not big .. there are no arguments in a big comment .. At zero. The author of the article will have better ...
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        8. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 28 March 2016 18: 13
          0
          Quote: Banshee
          Yes, version one

          I have this question.
          In light of such murders, who else has any hopes for the "correctness" of Russia's policy in the Donbass? Have the republics turned into "gangster neoplasms"? And most importantly, how will the population vote in the elections?
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        9. vic58
          vic58 30 March 2016 14: 07
          0
          Let's not, he died! Let him be rest in peace ....
      2. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 28 March 2016 11: 09
        +5
        The version is plausible, although they were afraid of legitimization not only in Lugansk, but also in Kiev, and it is still unknown where it is stronger.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 28 March 2016 11: 55
          +3
          Everything is not easy there. I mean legitimization in the broadest sense, in spite of other resistance leaders.
          But the risk of political games around Brain was more than real.
      3. APASUS
        APASUS 28 March 2016 18: 28
        0
        Quote: Niki
        I doubt it. I doubt that the killers were "ours."
        And I think that the author of the text also doubts. It's just that the article gives only one version and it is likely to continue, with the expansion of the circle.

        They could also kill the DRG APU, but they brought it
    2. Yars
      Yars 28 March 2016 12: 40
      +1
      Quote: Riv
      In short: their killed. Well, who doubted that?

      like Bednova among other things
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 28 March 2016 08: 10
    +4
    The struggle for power is the most fierce, merciless struggle. And people in power know this.
    1. Burmistr
      Burmistr 28 March 2016 12: 33
      -2
      The struggle for power is the most fierce, merciless struggle. And people in power know this.


      then search among the "chosen" people
  3. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 28 March 2016 08: 12
    +24
    Since the topic gets such a development, the circle of suspects only expands! Starting with ukrov, which is unfavorable for the legalization of the political movement of Mozgovoy, ending with the Lugansk, ukrooligarchy, and in the end our special services! Damn, serpentine! However, criminals must be identified and made public! Otherwise, the Lugansk project will turn into a completely criminal conglomerate! There are so many events and characters that raise many questions!
    PS. Banshee, be careful! Take care of yourself! Such an investigation will not go unnoticed by criminals!
    1. Vita vko
      Vita vko 28 March 2016 08: 56
      +9
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      the circle of suspects is only expanding!

      The murder, in principle, cannot be justified, especially political. But in fact, Mozgovoy was pushed against the tide without ensuring the proper level of security. It's not smart at least. Analyzing his videoconferences and interviews, we can say that he had the best intentions. But it is not for nothing that they say that the road to hell is paved with good intentions. To understand how much the words of the politician Mozgovoy corresponded to reality, it is enough to recall that of the Russian politicians he was most supported by Zhirinovsky, he even presented him with a Tiger armored car. No wonder he was called the Ukrainian Che Guevara. With all due respect to Vladimir Volfovich, many in Russia also very attentively listen to his opinion and even support him, but for some reason during the elections Zhirinovsky always gains very few votes. And all because Zhirinovsky, like Mozgovoy, are very similar to Russia's nuclear shield. While he is on duty in mines or in arsenals this nuclear shield can be proud, but few would agree to have the same nuclear bomb over their heads, and even with a clockwork.
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 28 March 2016 15: 56
        +2
        Quote: Vita VKO
        Zhirinovsky, even gave him an armored car "Tiger".

        And by the way, I wonder how much I remember Mozgovoy was shot in an ordinary car. Why did he not use the Tiger donated?
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          1. Captain45
            Captain45 28 March 2016 17: 52
            +3
            Quote: Möbius
            "Tiger", did you give it to him? Didn't hear something ...

            Do you have vision problems or reading problems? I quoted from a comment:
            Quote: Vita VKO
            Of the Russian politicians, Zhirinovsky was the most supportive of all; he even presented him with the Tiger armored car.

            and asked the question: Why Mozgovoy died in an ordinary car, if he was given a "Tiger"? Read more carefully, tovarisch. And then you already start to twist like a tape of your namesake, look, otherwise you will get into a bottle of Kleist, you will not find a way out at all.
    2. Yura
      Yura 28 March 2016 09: 00
      +3
      Quote: AlNikolaich
      Starting with ukrov, which is unfavorable legalization of the political movement of the brain,

      But competition is also beneficial to them, the legal political movement can be tried to be brought under control, and the blackening of the Lugansk government is as much as possible. In such games, it is rarely possible to see the truth, those who rub their hands in the shade never leave it.
  4. S-kerrigan
    S-kerrigan 28 March 2016 08: 13
    +6
    Usually I don't get involved in such political disputes. But here ... there are no words, except "What a pancake."

    * To the author - a lot of work has been done.
  5. sa-ag
    sa-ag 28 March 2016 08: 17
    +1
    From time immemorial, people have been eliminated due to money and an attempt on power; those who receive power receive financial flows, here two reasons
  6. Shurale
    Shurale 28 March 2016 08: 20
    +2
    Any government needs puppets, ours is no exception, after its behavior it would be difficult to expect something different ...
  7. Pacifist
    Pacifist 28 March 2016 08: 23
    +5
    I’ve been living on the earth for almost half a century and every time I am amazed at all this abomination ...
  8. Niki
    Niki 28 March 2016 08: 32
    0
    And why is there no version that this "party" or "public movement" was much more dangerous for politicians, not the LPR?

    Why make such a frank sketch with a hint of only one (perhaps, but not the fact that they needed it) interested party?

    Look yourself - if Mozgovoy should become an opposition to the current administration of Lugansk, then what will happen to this? As soon as they would create acc. raskrutku, immediately there would be knocking it out to adjacent ones, for example Kharkov or Dnepropetrovsk or any other suitable region of Ukraine. And that’s all - victory is guaranteed.

    At the same time, note that no emphasis is placed on the DNR in the material, but then it is necessary to nod at the DNR. But there is still Mariupol ... i.e. within the Minsk format, this OD of Mozgovoy could really try to go beyond the region.

    So that? At least it’s strange that all the arrows publicly transfer to the MGB of the LPR.
  9. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 28 March 2016 08: 35
    +1
    Where there is power, there is an ongoing struggle for it.
    Methods of struggle - not regulated.
    Getting involved in it, you have to be ready for everything ...
  10. Ayujak
    Ayujak 28 March 2016 08: 37
    +3
    The fact that they removed their own and so clear. If dill had such long arms, then long ago other brigades and the top of the LPR and DPR would have been sent to the forefathers.
    Even if we find out something, what will it give? We cannot punish them. And for what? Brain actions can be interpreted in different ways. In most cases, this would be treason.
  11. nemec55
    nemec55 28 March 2016 08: 40
    +5
    The worst thing is the life of the common people. While someone shares power, someone at this time sits in the basement or cellar losing everything that he built his whole life.
  12. Cananecat
    Cananecat 28 March 2016 08: 45
    +3
    It's a shame for Brain. It seems like an intelligent man, but he did not count such a small thing as elimination. No, it would be more correct to say, did not give due attention to this. And the idea was colossal. In connection with what the question arises, if one thought of this before, then why did not the other parties to this conflict accept this? After all, the solution to a number of issues essentially lies on the surface.
    Special thanks to Roman for the work done and ongoing.
  13. Boris55
    Boris55 28 March 2016 08: 49
    +16
    Mozgovoy opposed the oligarchs, for nationalization, and this is precisely what the oligarchs, including those who support and sponsor the DNI and LNR authorities, do not want to. Not for this, they started the division of Ukraine, that would give everything to the people ...

    (who has no time - see from the 3 minutes)

  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 March 2016 08: 57
    +6
    Roman, take care of yourself.
    It’s clear that the publication of these investigative results doesn’t solve much at the moment,
    but in the future may affect the results of certain elections.
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      1. Dalmatia
        Dalmatia 28 March 2016 17: 41
        0
        Mobius, you are pouring dirt on Skomorokhov all over the branch, this suggests that your attack was planned personally against him, and Brain’s theme is just an excuse.
      2. Stauffenberg
        Stauffenberg 28 March 2016 19: 53
        +2
        Moebius, how many times have you been there?
  15. baudolino
    baudolino 28 March 2016 09: 01
    -1
    The LDNR has a clear direction to strengthen the vertical of power in order to overcome the mess in wartime. And all the "showmen" who interfere with this, regardless of merit, are removed.
    It is hard to imagine that any Russian general would give interviews on the front lines, organize "social movements" and report to friends in a mordo book.
  16. Daks67
    Daks67 28 March 2016 09: 11
    0
    Yes ... There is something to think about.
  17. jekasimf
    jekasimf 28 March 2016 09: 13
    +4
    And if, to what was said in the article, add that in power in the LPR all the people of Akhmetov .... YES DA.Akhmetova, then here in general the whole puzzle develops.
  18. dobrovic
    dobrovic 28 March 2016 09: 26
    0
    Excellent! Thank you for your thoughtful investigation. What a pleasure to read what the author really invested in. How different from "one day" articles written "by mood". I will patiently wait for the continuation ...
  19. skeptic
    skeptic 28 March 2016 09: 33
    +3
    How many Heroes of New Russia stood up against the hated ukrov - punishers in
    days of the Russian upsurge in 2014.
    And how much abomination is trying to take advantage of the fruits of their selfless endurance and
    incomparable courage.
    The dirty fuss around power and "streams" on the blood of patriots does not stop.
    And still - God is with the Russians!
    Urkaine has no place in history.
    Mutants are doomed.
  20. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 28 March 2016 10: 29
    +1
    How sad it is, but ... "The revolution is devouring its children ..." (c) hi
    1. atos_kin
      atos_kin 28 March 2016 12: 10
      +1
      Quote: Landwarrior
      It is unfortunate but ...

      "partnership" is devouring the children of the revolution.
  21. Mihail55
    Mihail55 28 March 2016 10: 36
    +2
    But this applies not only to New Russia, unfortunately.
  22. wild
    wild 28 March 2016 10: 53
    +2
    Poroshenko would not recognize Mozgovov as a party to the negotiations under any circumstances if he had at least one hundred parties and movements, taking into account how the law applies to an independent law, all of them would be closed immediately by the Ukrainian side. In the LPR, it is certain that the Brainstem would have been brought in but not in the Minsk format.
  23. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 28 March 2016 11: 52
    +2
    For me, the logical confirmation of this version is the actions of the authorities. Actions are always a confirmation of intent.
    Andrey "Sledak" Kozlov was arrested the next day after the deaths of Mozgovoy and Samelyuk.
  24. askort154
    askort154 28 March 2016 12: 26
    +11
    I did not delve deeply into this topic, but here is how I see what lies on the surface.
    All those who rose up to fight the "Ukrainian junta", starting with Strelkov, set their ultimate goal
    the creation of "Novorossiya", a new entity with a new socially just system, which, of course, implied complete nationalization. This did not suit either the Akhmetovs there or
    "oligarchs" in Russia, nor the Western capstroy. Who needs a new "Cuba" in the center of Europe. Strelkov and everyone who did not abandon the idea of ​​"Novorossiya" were "taken out" of the game. The idea of ​​"Novorossiya" died. The main thing, regardless of further names and events, entities (DPR, LPR, or something else) will definitely remain in the capitalist system. Therefore, the Russian Federation is for the preservation of the integrity of Ukraine.
  25. ivanovich
    ivanovich 28 March 2016 12: 29
    +3
    And I can fully imagine the victory of Mozgovoy in the elections not only in Alchevsk, but also in Lugansk.


    the meaning of the investigation is understandable: Plotnitsky and Co. ordered the murder of politician Mozgovoy, only this version must be considered together with others, one of which is that Mozgovoy was actively fighting drug trafficking on his territory, the locals themselves wrote about it, but this is still a lot of money and who something in Lugansk had good dividends
    1. Niki
      Niki 28 March 2016 16: 39
      +1
      Well, then, and Severodonetsk, for example, someone can have good dividends ... it’s just not clear who, when and how ... but it doesn’t matter.
    2. domokl
      domokl 28 March 2016 17: 48
      +2
      Sorry, but this is a small thing ... Drug traffic and stuff. At stake was a whole plant with millions of American rubles ... Millions ... Brain really remained, according to the Minsk agreements, the only, I repeat, the only legal representative of the people in the LPR .. By the laws of Ukrop, naturally ..
    3. domokl
      domokl 29 March 2016 03: 58
      +1
      Quote: ivanovich
      Plotnitsky and Co. ordered the murder of politician Mozgovoy

      belay Is it written somewhere about this? But I don’t understand who. Carpenter? What's the point? Why is Brain politician more dangerous? nevertheless, they already said that the Minsk agreements were needed as a respite from the war. And nobody is going to fulfill them.
      By the way, exactly the same legal public association exists in the DPR. And nothing, the leader is by ear ...
  26. Shpagolom
    Shpagolom 28 March 2016 14: 44
    +6
    .... Romantics and idealists have done their job, now they are "leaving" ..... Even such a hero of the defense of Sevastopol as Alexei Chaly cannot sit still, fit into the current "rules" of the game in Russian, unfortunately neither he nor Mozgovoy and others saw everything differently, but not according to Surkovsky .... not according to the Kremlin!
  27. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 28 March 2016 17: 44
    0
    The case of Mozgovoy's murder is rather complicated. Who killed, why, who benefits from it? Where did "Sledak" go, one of the associates? And, in general, there is no information in our press about the LPR and Plotnitsky. Why?
  28. Skhidnyak
    Skhidnyak 28 March 2016 18: 10
    +3
    I would like to get an answer to two questions:
    1. So was the NGO "national revival" registered (legalized), since in one place the author writes: "... I have no evidence that the registration took place." and literally below: "... 1. The brigade commander, and now the politician, Mozgovoy, registered the NGO" People's Revival ".
    2. This NGO was at that time the ONLY public organization recognized by Ukraine in the LPR since the actual separation of the republic."And he cites a video as proof, which does not say anything specific about it.
    2. So why they killed Alexei Mozgovoy. Specifically - for what? Without hints, without any agreements, without winking an eye, they say, well, you understood everything ...
    After all, this cannot be considered: "... Summary. Alexey Borisovich Mozgovoy did not die because of friction with the Cossacks. Not because of economic relations with the Alchevsk Combine. Not because of the actions of the Ukrainian DRG. And not because of the betrayal of his own people, who wanted to replace him. Although people from his environment have played a certain role in the whole history. But more on that another time ... "with a concrete conclusion.
    In conclusion. I would really not want someone to use the name of my countryman for their own selfish purposes.
    1. Dalmatia
      Dalmatia 28 March 2016 19: 27
      0
      I join your questions.
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  29. AleBors
    AleBors 28 March 2016 18: 11
    0
    By far the most believable version. Thanks to the author. I myself hold the same opinion, since I know firsthand what happened and is happening in the LPR. Sadly, at the moment, a leader like Alexei is not there right now. And most likely it will not. Those who once started everything in Lugansk have long been removed from their posts or disappeared.
    We will wait for how it will end ...
  30. Black
    Black 28 March 2016 19: 19
    +6
    With whose hands the brigade commander was killed, I think so that we will never know. We will probably guess, but there’s no fools to talk about. In 50 years ....
    But the fact that this murder is one of the nails in the coffin "Russian Novorossia" is a fact.
    Foul from that to heartburn ....
  31. Olegmog
    Olegmog 28 March 2016 19: 42
    0
    Well, the brigade commander would go to politics, who would
    got worse? In any case, Brain was alive!
    And muddy, everything is somehow in the news about the LPR!
  32. gammipapa
    gammipapa 28 March 2016 21: 48
    +2
    Very dexterous generalisimus move.
    So smart to score points. While Mozgovoy was alive and represented a threat, the author repeatedly criticized him, exposed everything, not our man, how bad everything is with him, then the humanitarian aid will be lost, then something that does not deserve trust.
    But now when a person is dead and things have been forgotten, you can spin glasses on him. But also very skillful. It turns out how it should be, you need to register the party in Ukraine and then you will be recognized. Did you understand ? And if you have not registered in Ukraine, then no one will recognize you. Clever and subtle.

    In general, reading the article by Skomorokhov, I always remember the film liquidation, remember how Gozman went to the oracle there? And he told him - you’re not looking there, the enemy is so much your own that you can’t not only calculate, you just can’t think of it. Man Without a Face .
  33. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 28 March 2016 22: 26
    0
    The article is sad ... But what can you imagine different for a non-caring though talented person when he, in fact, from among the militias, became a compromiser with the fascist regime. But the majority in the LPR and the DPR do not accept this and believe that they will never return to Ukraine. Yes, you create a social movement within the framework of the LPR, register in the republic and perform the same tasks to improve the life of Luhansk residents. But in fact, in Lugansk, as in the Donetsk region. there was a revolution and not quite intellectuals and smart people were in power. After the revolution, comedians everywhere commanded us and decided everything, including human destinies. So it is here. Yeah betrayed if he built bridges with Kiev and then paid. It is a pity for a man, but he is guilty of a child, he could have counted it, because he himself decided the fate of people when he commanded the militias against the Nazis.
  34. Manul
    Manul 29 March 2016 01: 17
    0
    Sleep well, Alexei Borisovich. Thanks you. Let everything that was conceived come true.
  35. Turkir
    Turkir 29 March 2016 10: 04
    +2
    Convenient version. And the wolves are full and the sheep are whole.
  36. Val roman
    Val roman 30 March 2016 07: 24
    +1
    It’s a pity man, it was real! A blessed memory to him and his fallen comrades-in-arms. Unfortunately, the best go, but the junk remains. Something needs to be changed, it's time!
  37. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 30 March 2016 08: 43
    0
    Based on this Version and Versions voiced earlier, only one conclusion can be drawn:
    1. Remove uncomfortable
    2. Removes uncomfortable those to whom they are uncomfortable.
    and that’s it. Again, back to square one.
    - Given the political side - coming to power - Yes! Could and those who are at the helm today.
    - If from a military point, and take into account the fact that Kiev is increasing its APU on the contact lines and is constantly probing the armed forces of New Russia, then it turns out that this is the interest of Kiev. And creating an organization is just a coincidence.
    - There is a third party - the use by Kiev of this information, in order to challenge the distrust of the population in the power of the republic (LPR), and so on. (In Kiev, after all, they are not fools either, by and large. The more we think that they are fools, the easier it is for them to do their business).
    In general, another version.
  38. 72jora72
    72jora72 30 March 2016 09: 42
    +1
    Pretty reasoned, but still version, one of many .....
    PS As far as I remember, Mozgovoy was offered various positions in the LPR government, right up to the Minister of Defense ...... and was it meaningful for Dense to kill him ??
  39. Crucian
    Crucian 30 March 2016 11: 01
    +1
    Brainwave Eternal memory ....

    Or maybe someone here has information about the Troy special forces unit? All information is cut off at the end of January and did not find anything else ... What happened to them in the end?
  40. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 30 March 2016 12: 36
    +3
    Thank you Roman for the work done. Thank you for not forgetting this topic.
    And yet I don’t like the topic of driving LDNK kicks back to Ukraine. Registration there, taxes to Kiev ... If you already started the formation of New Russia, then why these throwings? For what then were all these victims.
    And one more thing: why isn’t our liberal elite considered? After all, the new movement of patriots of the Russian world that has encroached on the new order and against the oligarchy is a force that can shake Russia up. And you can’t dismiss this version. The idea is like a virus capable of multiplying and displacing even matter and biomass. The formation of a new state of Novorossia on the border with Russia with a possible more human structure would have to dissonant with the capitalist-feudal system in Russia. Therefore, liberal capitalists will tear with their teeth any encroachments on their honestly stolen goods and warmly cozy places.
    It is precisely these considerations that can explain the incomprehensible attitude of our liberals in power to what is happening in the Southeast ...
    Maybe I'm wrong, but it painfully sounds like the truth.
  41. drilled
    drilled 30 March 2016 17: 52
    +1
    I alone didn’t understand something? Didn't anyone find it strange to register with the Ruin Ministry of Justice? The man who hated the ruin and fought against it? I will explain a little: if DLNR are separate states, then registration in the Ruin is useless. If the DLNR is part of the Ruin, then such as Mozgovoy, the ruins would have turned their heads off on the first day, as they would have been allowed to go to Donbass, i.e. he does not participate in the elections, but flees headlong. Some nonsense, not an article.
  42. Centurion1
    Centurion1 31 March 2016 14: 04
    0
    Photo taken in Voronezh.
  43. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 31 March 2016 22: 56
    -1
    Quote: Shveps
    Putin and Lavrov announced the "closure of the Novorossiya project. The murder of Kombrig Mozgovoy became a kind of symbol of this closure. Since Alexei Borisovich himself has been a symbol of Novorossia in recent months, the real Novorossia for which the Russian Volunteers rose, and which has been drenched in blood today. the best sons were sold and betrayed - the Judas, whose "cunning plan" consisted and consists of only one thing: the utilization of the best People of the Russian People, the Russian World, and through this, if it comes out, the utilization of the Idea itself.

    It is precisely on the utilization of this idea that the Skomorokhovs' delusional insinuations are directed.
    And it was for this that he was killed by Brain.

    Mozgovoy with his ideas became dangerous, first of all, for modern Russia, or rather, for those who now run it. The emergence in the future of the people's LPR next to Russia is a dangerous symptom of the possible transfer of such ideas directly to Russia. Here the Kremlin with the "business elite" and solved this problem radically, as with Rokhlin - a bullet in the head. I would not be surprised if mercenaries from Russia worked. There were a lot of them there, mercenaries, not volunteers.
    All this is vile ...