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ZVO artillerymen fired from Tulips

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The unit of the heavy artillery formation of the ZVO destroyed an enemy command post from the Tulip 240-mm self-propelled mortar during an exercise in the Tambov Region, reports RIA News message of the district press service.


ZVO artillerymen fired from Tulips
Archive photo

“In the course of combat training, the soldiers of the mortar battery worked out the tasks of firing high-explosive fragmentation shells at the enemy’s submerged command posts, underground ammunition depots and fuel and lubricants that are inaccessible for the destruction of other ground artillery. The intelligence and the quality of the destruction of the targets was carried out by Zastava unmanned aerial vehicles, ”the release says.

It is also noted that "in training, the military worked out the tasks of the march preparation, selection and occupation of prepared and unprepared positions, topographic and geodetic referencing of the terrain, as well as fire-fighting maneuvers after shooting."

In total, according to the district, “over one hundred military personnel and about 50 units of weapons and military equipment took part in the event”.

Help Ministry of Defense: The “Tulip” 2C4 mortar is intended for the destruction of solid field structures, buildings adapted by the enemy to shelter manpower and equipment, command posts, artillery and rocket batteries and other military equipment inaccessible for table fire. The self-propelled mortar 2C4 is the only mortar of this caliber in the world and has no analogues ”.
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  1. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 26 March 2016 12: 04
    +14
    This is a mortar. Impressive!
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 26 March 2016 12: 08
      +14
      I agree, a wonderful device!
      I like mechanical monsters.
      Feels the power!
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 March 2016 12: 57
        +8
        Very impressive, once again I admire the names of our weapons systems. Thank.
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 26 March 2016 12: 18
      +33
      Nice "Flower Garden" in Russia. good
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 26 March 2016 12: 35
        +3
        "Flowers of Russia" is power! Such a "bouquet" would be in the face of some of our "partners"!
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 26 March 2016 13: 16
        +8
        And not only the flower garden.
      3. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 27 March 2016 10: 27
        0
        Then the "Host".
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 26 March 2016 12: 24
      +5
      "Tulips" is better by March 8th, but by May 9th "Carnations" are needed. laughing
      1. family tree
        family tree 26 March 2016 14: 01
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        "Tulips" is better by March 8th, but by May 9th "Carnations" are needed.

        No, there really is for everything, so "Genocides", oh "Hyacinths" of course drinks
        And why "Nonu-S" was called "Violet"? Disorder, however what
    5. hartlend
      hartlend 26 March 2016 14: 00
      0
      They were able to make equipment in the USSR, it is still relevant.
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 26 March 2016 14: 01
      0
      A total of about one hundred military personnel, as well as 50 units of military equipment and weapons, took part in the exercises.

      Translating into a common language company (battalion) tactical exercises with live shooting
      1. gergi
        gergi 26 March 2016 14: 33
        0
        Artillery Division.
      2. Lopatov
        Lopatov 26 March 2016 14: 39
        +5
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        Translating into a common language company (battalion) tactical exercises with live shooting

        Translated into ordinary language, the tactical exercises of the 18th separate self-propelled mortar division of high power with live firing. Apparently, during the field exit of artillery.
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2016 15: 14
          +1
          Comrade Lopatov hi
        2. family tree
          family tree 26 March 2016 15: 19
          +2
          Quote: Spade
          Apparently, during the field exit of artillery.

          In, there is someone to ask. And the "Brave" is still in service, or has disappeared, for the "Tulips" it seems like ammunition was what
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 26 March 2016 16: 59
            +3
            Quote: perepilka
            And the "Brave" is still in service, or has disappeared, for the "Tulips" it seems like ammunition was

            As of now, I don’t know. Maybe they have already disposed of everything.

            But in the second Chechen they were quite actively used.
            1. family tree
              family tree 26 March 2016 17: 46
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              But in the second Chechen they were quite actively used.

              And how, by accuracy? And then, with the D-30, 122, no, well, tries
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 26 March 2016 18: 31
                +3
                They are correctable. By accuracy, fine.
    7. Platonich
      Platonich 26 March 2016 15: 59
      +1
      Not that word! Trumpet of death for all reptiles!
      1. family tree
        family tree 26 March 2016 18: 07
        0
        Quote: Platonitch
        Death tube d

        Yeah, especially the code is nearby, this fool, and kind of her what
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 26 March 2016 12: 05
    +5
    "Artillerymen of the Western Military District conducted live firing from" Tulips "
    After this mortar in Lugansk, Galitei began to whine that they used tactical nuclear weapons.
  3. Stinger
    Stinger 26 March 2016 12: 06
    +2
    Serious flower.
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 26 March 2016 12: 29
      +8
      Quote: Stinger
      Serious flower.

      Quote: oleg-gr
      This is a mortar. Impressive!

      out Syrians than figachat belay - weight 1250kg
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 27 March 2016 11: 47
      0
      Quote: Stinger
      Serious flower.

      The performance characteristics of the mortar 2C4 "Tulip"

      Mass in combat position, t
      27,5
      Crew, pers. Xnumx
      Length m
      7,94
      Height, m
      3,20
      Width, m 3,25
      Armament: 240 mm mortar 2B-8,
      7,62 mm PKT machine gun
      Shots with a F-864 mine (OFM) 20
      Shots with a mine ZVF2 (AWP) 10
      Ammo for the PKT 1500 machine gun
      Maximum firing range, km: OFM / AWP 9,8 / 18
      Engine V-59U
      Engine power
      520 hp
      1. Appraiser
        Appraiser 27 March 2016 11: 53
        +2
        In the photo, this is 203 mm 2S7 ("Peony)" and not 240mm 2S4 ("Tulip") (note the chassis number of road wheels for the edition 2C7 -7 (seven) and for 2C4 -6 (six) soldier
  4. pts-m
    pts-m 26 March 2016 12: 10
    +2
    That's interesting. soldier How tall should the loader be in order to lower the mine through the barrel from above. Yes. Maybe I am behind the times. And so cool device !.
    1. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 26 March 2016 12: 14
      +10
      Charging from the breech.
    2. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 26 March 2016 12: 39
      +3
      Quote: PTS-m
      Interestingly

      Self-propelled mortar 2C4 "Tulip"
    3. Shark Lover
      Shark Lover 26 March 2016 14: 10
      0
      It breaks))) There are no such Schwartzes yet to throw such a suitcase from the top) But it hits it seriously, if you still have to put a fuse, then when shooting at rocks, the stone crusher is resting.
    4. gergi
      gergi 26 March 2016 14: 35
      +1
      Charged from the breech. To do this, tilt horizontally.
  5. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 26 March 2016 12: 10
    +7
    the artillery veteran is back in service)) ... even tactical nuclear munitions were once used for it ... I wonder if new types of shots to the Tulip have appeared
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 26 March 2016 12: 50
      +1
      Quote: silberwolf88
      artillery veteran back in service))

      maybe they prepare for the "tour" through the Bosphorus what
    2. antiexpert
      antiexpert 26 March 2016 13: 09
      +7

      >> tactical nuclear weapons were once
      they didn’t go anywhere - here it is))
      1. Fregate
        Fregate 26 March 2016 14: 32
        0
        Quote: antiexpert
        they didn’t go anywhere - here it is))

        No, it's not him. The "Tulip" has a caliber of 240 mm, and in your photo under the shell on the tag it says: caliber - 152 mm.)
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2016 15: 31
          0
          "Yes, his grenades are of the wrong system" ... (film "White Sun of the Desert")
        2. antiexpert
          antiexpert 27 March 2016 02: 10
          0
          the warhead at 152 and 240 is the same)))
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 26 March 2016 15: 23
        0
        Quote: antiexpert
        they didn’t go anywhere - here it is))

        You are more careful with him belay
        1. antiexpert
          antiexpert 27 March 2016 02: 19
          0
          Yeah - but this warhead, judging by the caliber, can be put on the same "calibers"))
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 27 March 2016 11: 52
      0
      Quote: silberwolf88
      even tactical nuclear munitions were once under him ...

      Nuclear shells with a capacity of 2 kilotons in the usual and active-reactive version, as well as neutron shells "Resin" and "Fata". soldier
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  7. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 26 March 2016 12: 13
    +3
    good An impressive "cannon"! Good caliber!
    The range of a conventional projectile was 9650 m, and that of a projectile with a rocket accelerator was 20 000 m. The range of ammunition also includes armor-piercing, nuclear and laser-guided projectiles.
    More firing with precision munitions!
    1. DMB_95
      DMB_95 26 March 2016 12: 28
      +1
      And how many such mortars are now (and on conservation, if any) operating? TTX read and about their current service, unfortunately, not in the know. Like in the First Chechen used. I thought that with a stool they were cut .. Cool unit!
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 26 March 2016 12: 13
    +6
    All of you guys are lying. You didn’t destroy the command post, but you didn’t reach Kiev, that's just it. laughing
    1. gispanec
      gispanec 26 March 2016 12: 19
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      You didn’t destroy the command post, you didn’t shoot to Kiev, that's just it

      fool wassat belay
  9. polite people
    polite people 26 March 2016 12: 14
    +3
    They love nature in Russia !!! Here is such a Russian soul.wink
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 March 2016 12: 17
    +2
    Cool samovar! And the paint on it is almost new - they shot a little.
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  12. Cat man null
    Cat man null 26 March 2016 12: 26
    +2
    Video, just to close the questions about the "growth of the loader" wink

  13. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 26 March 2016 12: 29
    0
    It would be nice to launch a drone-spotter from the trunk of the "Tulip".
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 March 2016 13: 01
      +2
      What for?
      The Tulip needs a much larger UAV with a stabilized target illumination system.
      1. Primus pilus
        Primus pilus 26 March 2016 13: 43
        0
        Quote: Spade
        What for?
        The Tulip needs a much larger UAV with a stabilized target illumination system.

        And how do you like a dodging kamikaze UAV with TV guidance, it seems ideal for the Tulip. In any case, it’s a pity that no one is modernizing it. See the mortar’s potential, it’s too early to write it off.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 March 2016 14: 10
          0
          Quote: Primus Pilus
          And how do you like the hovering UAV-kamikaze with TV-guidance

          Not that tactical niche.
          This is either for infantry tankers, in order to hit targets themselves out of line of sight, or for MLRS like "Smerch" to work at long ranges.
  14. infantry76
    infantry76 26 March 2016 13: 11
    +2
    Lord comrades!
    And who said that the old is not effective? And how effective ... And "Tulips" and "Hyacinths" and "Peonies" and "Carnations" and "Acacia", and the same T-72 tanks of all modifications, and much more, oh, how will it serve our armies, while they launch new weapons on the conveyor!
    GLORY OF THE ARMY OF RUSSIA AND ITS WARRIORS !!!
    I have the honor! soldier
  15. Lopatov
    Lopatov 26 March 2016 13: 26
    +5
    Spit? ..

    1. UAV "Zastava" seriously limits the combat capabilities of "Tulips" due to the lack of a target illumination system, and therefore, the impossibility of using "Brave"

    2. "Tulip" - a great car with a huge potential for modernization. It has shown its highest efficiency in battles in the mountains, in settlements, in closed and semi-closed areas. However, this modernization potential is not being realized. There is no special problem in the informatization of ACS, the installation of modern topographic reference systems and ASUNO. But at the same time nothing is done.
    Not to mention the new base, facilitating loading and increasing rate of fire.

    3. Ammunition. They are "stuck" in the USSR. From the conditionally new - "Brave" and cassette with fragmentation BE. No new mines, no new fuses, no new, more convenient charges.

    4. There are few of them. The towed version of the M-240 was kicked out of the troops long ago, and most likely was cut. Although for local conflicts, with almost no counter-battery, they are preferable to self-propelled guns.
    1. avt
      avt 26 March 2016 14: 06
      +1
      Quote: Spade
      3. Ammunition. They are "stuck" in the USSR. From the conditionally new - "Brave" and cassette with fragmentation BE. No new mines, no new fuses, no new, more convenient charges.

      Yes-ah. With the firearm "to play" and the guidance system for him - this "flower" will not fade for a long time. laughing
      Quote: Spade
      The towed version of the M-240 was kicked out of the troops long ago, and most likely was cut. Although for local conflicts, with almost no counter-battery, they are preferable to self-propelled guns.

      what A towed is not heavy? 160 mm is already healthy. Well, I don’t know, for my taste and color, 120mm is just right, but everything above should be equipped with a self-propelled gun.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 26 March 2016 14: 30
        +3
        Quote: avt
        Yes-ah. With the firearm "to play" and the guidance system for him - this "flower" will not fade for a long time.

        He urgently needs a controlled mine. With inertial control system with correction for global positioning data. And the possibility of additional installation of a semi-active laser seeker, as on the "Brave"
        An active-reactive mine with a cluster warhead with "anti-tank" self-aiming submunitions from the Smerch arsenal
        Smoke mine for sighting
        Perhaps mine with a thermobaric warhead
        New detonators that provide detonation at a set height for active-reactive and conventional mines ...
        In short, work is no end.

        Quote: avt
        A towed is not heavy? 160 mm is already healthy. Well, I don’t know, for my taste and color, 120mm is just right, but everything above should be equipped with a self-propelled gun.

        Too heavy. Mi-8 on the external load will not pull.
        And the 160 mm mortar is also cool. But here it is necessary to consider, this is plus one more caliber with the need to update (and create) the entire line of ammunition.

        And 120th is battalion artillery. And to complete the tasks assigned to "Tulips" is not able to.
      2. Mikhail Harichev
        Mikhail Harichev 26 March 2016 14: 40
        0
        Hmm, 160mm is too much No. fool
  16. sw6513
    sw6513 26 March 2016 14: 16
    0
    A serious tool is good that there are similar things in our army.
  17. Denimax
    Denimax 26 March 2016 15: 39
    0
    The goal of such exercises is unclear, why should such a monstrous barrel be attracted? There are many other options for the same purpose.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 March 2016 17: 02
      0
      In order to know how. BM calculations on substitutes do not train.

      But gentlemen officers most likely shot as a substitute. I do not know what they have there, "kulak sawed-off" or 120-mm mortar ...
      1. Denimax
        Denimax 26 March 2016 17: 26
        -1
        Cut it? For me, these mortars have long been out of date. Some Dora turns out. Here, in my opinion, this trend is, according to the satisfaction of the patriots, more and more strongly.
        And the patriots, along the way, beat mosquitoes at home with a sledgehammer.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 March 2016 18: 45
          +5
          Quote: Denimax
          Cut it?

          In the sense of "cut"? This has always been the case, since the days of the USSR.
          Each artillery officer must, at least once every six months, shoot in live firing. This is a lot of shells (8-10 for each) and shot barrels. Therefore, for such things they use "substitutes" - old tools.

          Regular ammunition with standard guns is usually fired only by battery commanders and battalion commanders. But they do not take into account the working time, but the full, "time to complete the firing mission." Poorly trained subordinates, they will give you a grade in time and will stretch you.
          The rest is the working time, that is, the stopwatch turns on with the receipt of the target (with the appearance of a gap) and turns off after issuing the command to the radiotelephone operator.


          Quote: Denimax
          Some Dora turns out.

          But this is really great art. system. In some cases, allowing to reach those goals that howitzer and especially cannon artillery are simply not available.
          Yes, she is old. Yes, it needs deep modernization. But it is impossible to refuse it unequivocally.
          1. kamski
            kamski 27 March 2016 03: 43
            0
            Well, as for the substitutes, I don’t know there are add-on trunks for training. It is inserted inside the barrel and shoots with small calibers from the main gun
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 27 March 2016 09: 09
              +1
              And there are inset. For direct fire. But this thing is a bit from a different opera.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 March 2016 20: 56
          +2
          Actually, why do we need combat firing, in the "cauldron", with normal HE ammunition, even if it is tiny (the ZIS-3 was actively used as a substitute, at least when I served)

          Because not a single simulator, starting with the ancient rifle ranges, and ending with the most modern computer using virtual reality, will never give 100% similarity to real art. fire.
          Even a simple zeroing on the observation of break marks ("take the fork") has its own nuances. For example, experienced officers try to use the wind. Sometimes the field is flat and it is difficult to determine undershoot / overflights. And if the breeze "dragged" a cloud of dust in front of the target, it is short. If for her, a flight.

          Well, in the case of precisely these exercises, it was completely impossible without real shooting. Corrected, as is clear from the article, using drones. That is, without real gaps in real 240 mm mines, UAV operators simply won’t know how it looks from a height.
  18. Platonich
    Platonich 26 March 2016 16: 05
    0
    And I like most of all the footcloth on the trunk! After the defeat, it probably covers the affected areas!
  19. VOENOBOZ
    VOENOBOZ 26 March 2016 18: 12
    0
    If such a mortar was made, then it is needed.
  20. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 26 March 2016 18: 49
    0
    A powerful weapon, and in addition to a nuclear weapon, can loudly "bang." But what about counter-battery warfare?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 March 2016 18: 53
      +1
      These are "big uncles". They are used when the "struggle for supremacy in artillery" has already been won and the enemy's artillery has been suppressed.
  21. Chisayna
    Chisayna 26 March 2016 18: 54
    +1
    During the storming of Grozny, in 99-2000, such a mortar with one or two mines demolished the five-story building along with the militants at a time.
  22. Vadim237
    Vadim237 26 March 2016 19: 48
    +1
    Most likely, shells, neither conventional, nor actively reactive, nor controlled, are no longer being released for this mortar and they are not going to modernize it - maybe a new large-caliber mortar is being prepared to replace it, with a long firing range - who knows, but in general we have problems with artillery - for 25 years, except for "Khosta" and "SV Coalition" new artillery systems were not released.
  23. twincam
    twincam 27 March 2016 00: 08
    0
    such a normal pushkin)))
  24. kamski
    kamski 27 March 2016 03: 40
    0
    As I know, there are nuclear charges for this mortar
  25. berezinalexander
    berezinalexander 27 March 2016 10: 53
    -1
    Excellent trunk when upgrading the platform and suo. It would be nice to make such a mortar based on the chassis of the Kurgan 25. The unification of platforms is never superfluous. Tank T 14 and BMP T 15 are created on a single platform, but have a different layout. Why not install a proven gun on a new base. The firing range of mortars can never be compared with barreled artillery, so developing everything from scratch is not required. Mortar must maintain mobility along with increased crew security
    1. Appraiser
      Appraiser 27 March 2016 11: 59
      0
      No need to reinvent the wheel ..... The product 240 mm 2C4 was intended exclusively for artillery reserve units of the GK SV. Each weapon model has its own tactical (operational tactical) task ..... soldier