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More than a trillion dollars will be needed to maintain the F-35 fleet for the entire period of its operation.

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The cost of maintaining the fleet of the latest American fighter F-35 Lightning over the period of operation will amount to $ 1,12 trillion. MIC Post by Bloomberg.




“The Air Force, Navy and US Marine Corps expect these aircraft to be the most expensive weapon system in the world. stories “They will be in service at least until the 2070 of the year,” the agency notes, citing the curator of the aircraft creation program, General Chris Bogdan.

At the same time, the publication points to the fact that “F-35 fighters still have cracks when conducting ground strength tests and problems remain with the onboard systems software.”

According to the agency, "compared with last year's estimate, these costs increased by 107 billion dollars."

Bloomberg, recalls that the Pentagon plans to purchase an 2443 fighter for the armed forces.
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  1. alekc75
    alekc75 26 March 2016 11: 02
    +3
    pilots around the world will be recruited?
    1. MARATHET
      MARATHET 26 March 2016 11: 05
      +8
      Quote: alekc75
      pilots around the world will be recruited?

      Arabs put at the helm ...
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 26 March 2016 11: 08
        +27
        Quote: MARATHET
        Arabs put at the helm ...

        In the United States there will not be a single skyscraper.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 26 March 2016 11: 22
          +4
          will be in service until at least 2070


          A hundred years ago, tanks and planes were also guaranteed 70 years of life?

          Either people were smarter, or other goals.

          Changing oil, and pouring gasoline is much easier than creating a new car.
          Stable, well-paid work of the same type for the entire period of operation!
          Is this happiness?
          1. dorz
            dorz 26 March 2016 13: 32
            +9
            Golden turned out to be an airplane.
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        2. bocsman
          bocsman 26 March 2016 11: 29
          +8
          The name of the curator reminds me of something. Obviously roots from Ukraine. Well, as with the truth, we know. So the figure 2070 is not surprising and even touches! More of these "Cossacks" in the United States and Washington will turn from a hegemon into an outcast.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 26 March 2016 11: 34
            +2
            More than a trillion dollars will be needed to maintain the F-35 fleet for the entire period of its operation.

            If the entire period of operation is planned until the 2070s, simple calculations show that not a lot is released per year (by American standards) - about 17-18 billion dollars.
            1. VP
              VP 26 March 2016 13: 37
              +4
              Therefore, it was announced about "70 years" so that no one would collapse into a swoon. Knight understands that a seventy-year-old fighter is a terrible gag, but ...
            2. Talgat
              Talgat 26 March 2016 17: 05
              +2
              US has no problems with dollars and public debt

              how much they will print - and the public debt will increase

              While the whole world as slaves accept these candy wrappers. Until China and BRICS create an alternative and move them
      2. Mobius
        Mobius 26 March 2016 11: 12
        +4
        More than a trillion dollars will be needed to maintain the F-35 fleet for the entire period of its operation.

        Brotherhood from Israel, advocating for the purchase of this "wunderwafe", Come on, it's cheaper fellow !

        Does anyone else have illusions about the "price-quality" criterion, even without taking into account the even lower combat indicators?
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 11: 24
          -4
          Quote: Möbius
          Does anyone else have illusions about the "price-quality" criterion, even without taking into account the even lower combat indicators?
          Firstly, it’s worth considering that
          F-35 fighters will fly until 2070, that is, the US armed forces decided to extend their operation for six years, defensenews.com reports (March 24).
          Previously it was planned to keep armed with aircraft of this type until 2064. It is reported that the total raid of fighters of all three options in the Air Force, Navy and ILC will be approximately 1,6 million hours.
          , and taking into account the fact that the concept of exploitation includes everything from the smallest detail to the cost of a flight hour, then nothing beyond sight can be seen.
          Secondly, again we are talking about an unknown source without mentioning any official documents, whereas
          The latest Pentagon report shows that the cost of operating the entire fleet of aircraft before the aforementioned period will be reduced from 391 to 379 billion dollars, not counting inflation. The acquisition cost of one F-35A decreased by $ 1,8 million, F-35B and F-35C by $ 1 million]
          1. Mobius
            Mobius 26 March 2016 11: 28
            +6
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            The acquisition cost of one F-35A decreased by $ 1,8 million, F-35B and F-35C by $ 1 million.


            What am I talking about? CHEAPER yes . That's only during operation, uh ... crawl out sideways yes

            " Wouldn't you chase pop for cheapness "

            Pilot-A.S. Pushkin lol
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 11: 34
              +3
              Quote: Möbius

              What am I talking about? CHEAPER yes . That's only during operation, uh ... crawl out sideways yes ]

              I have never met this figure, except for this publication. Wait for the hardening?
              1. Mobius
                Mobius 26 March 2016 12: 15
                +7
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                I have never met this figure, except for this publication. Wait for the hardening?


                I do not mind. Moreover, there is time, until ... 2070 lol

                Does the protracted "epic" itself bother you? Moreover, against the background of the fact that the United States did not receive an aircraft corresponding to the parameters of the fifth generation ...

                F-22, you say ...

                Do not eat IT, FIFTH GENERATION. Despite its insanely high cost, it never "went" far from the cheaper and from that massive "fours" with different numbers "++++++".


                And in general, vague doubts torment that Israel somehow got the Chinese Xerox ... Mossad stole? Have you bought?

                I do not see any other reasons for such a desire to acquire the F-35, except to dig and extract something valuable for the Israeli aviation industry, "to join the technology".

                Well, I do not see, and that's it ...
                1. retardu
                  retardu 26 March 2016 15: 04
                  -2
                  Did they get their parameters, by whose statements did they not receive it? Yellow Murzilka?
                  http://topwar.ru/92046-plany-po-sozdaniyu-v-rf-istrebiteley-sleduyuschih-pokolen
                  iy-poka-vyzyvayut-skepsis.html #
                  here comrade CERHJ chewed everything clearly.
                2. Tusv
                  Tusv 26 March 2016 17: 23
                  0
                  Quote: Möbius
                  I do not see any other reasons for such a desire to acquire the F-35, except to dig and extract something valuable for the Israeli aviation industry, "to join the technology".
                  Well, I do not see, and that's it ...

                  And who told you that Israel will pay its shekels for a party of f-35?
                  And by the way, for Pahal this pepelats is almost perfect.
                  Taki sewn on them. On others, this suit is either too big or too small
        2. Baikonur
          Baikonur 26 March 2016 11: 32
          +4
          Yes, many countries of NATA (Italy, for example) are trying with all their horns and hooves to push themselves away from this impudent steaming by the leader of these Super "space states"!
    2. avg
      avg 26 March 2016 11: 10
      +3
      They have enough of their pilots, but about the expenses, they are clearly modest. Practice shows that initial expenses always grow, often at times. yes
      And we really like it! good
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 26 March 2016 11: 14
        +15
        Well done. Continue in the same spirit.
        Do not worry about cracks in the case. This is normal.
        Fly to health. It is desirable in cloudy and thundery weather and at subzero temperatures. ... sand to you with nails into the air intake ... fascists.
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 26 March 2016 11: 21
          0
          Well, you do not regret those whom they will fall on laughing Again flying coffins like F-104?
        2. Kos_kalinki9
          Kos_kalinki9 26 March 2016 11: 28
          +11
          Do not worry about cracks in the case.

          We will help if
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 26 March 2016 11: 22
      +7
      While other states, including Russia, will buy US debt, they do not care how much their F-35s cost. laughing
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 26 March 2016 11: 25
        +6
        But this is sad, all the same, what kind of bastards are sitting in our economy block.
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 26 March 2016 11: 33
          0
          Until 2070, they will still be able to cut dough on the 6th and 7th generation laughing
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 26 March 2016 12: 21
            +7
            Quote: Igor39
            Until 2070, they will still be able to cut dough on the 6th and 7th generation laughing

            We don’t have to jerk, but use this time to the maximum advantage. Or we’ll also have to extend the life of the same SU-35/30/34 until the 70th year. And it’s good that our design bureaus are already thinking about the 6th generation aircraft.
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    5. My doctor
      My doctor 26 March 2016 11: 39
      +5
      Quote: alekc75
      pilots around the world will be recruited?

      The USA has more than enough pilots. And I don’t think that they also have problems with the printing press, so I think it’s premature to worry about both the number of aviation pilots and the costs of maintaining the army.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 26 March 2016 12: 01
        +2
        Somehow it does not fit with the words of the return to the system of warthogs ... what
        Already, American experts recognize that the F-35 turned out to be a machine unsuccessful.
    6. maxxdesign
      maxxdesign 26 March 2016 11: 44
      0
      kamikaze? :))) only in Japan)
    7. tol100v
      tol100v 26 March 2016 12: 06
      0
      Quote: alekc75
      pilots around the world will be recruited?

      Yes, they only go broke on individual helmets for pilots!
    8. sherp2015
      sherp2015 26 March 2016 20: 47
      0
      Quote: alekc75
      pilots around the world will be recruited?


      More than a trillion dollars will be needed to maintain the F-35 fleet for the entire period of its operation.


      They will print several trillions, the machine is then their money ...
      When will we ban the circulation of lousy currency in the country?
      It seems that the vast majority of officials and deputies have currency accounts abroad, since the issue of circulating dollars around the country has not been resolved
  2. Wolverine
    Wolverine 26 March 2016 11: 02
    +2
    So I live like this ...
  3. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 26 March 2016 11: 02
    +2
    2443 f35 aircraft !!! We have so much air force in everything.
    1. Mobius
      Mobius 26 March 2016 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      2443 f35 aircraft !!!


      Dreams Dreams !

      Where is your sweetness?

      Dreams are gone, disgust remains ...

  4. MARATHET
    MARATHET 26 March 2016 11: 03
    +2
    will be in service until at least 2070

    Naive ..
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 26 March 2016 11: 08
      +5
      Well, in 70 years they’ll bring to mind wassat and the dough will rise .... Well, just a gold mine.
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 26 March 2016 11: 15
        +1
        They won't. Because the medal "For the capture of fascinatington" will soon be instituted.
        1. volodimer
          volodimer 26 March 2016 11: 18
          +1
          This option is, of course, preferable.
      2. indulf
        indulf 26 March 2016 12: 43
        +4
        Tolyan Serdyukov will burst with envy from such prospects and the scale of the overseas cut laughing
  5. Arkan
    Arkan 26 March 2016 11: 05
    +2
    No need to buy American Treasuries and the Pentagon will be forced to moderate its appetite. The F-35 is still very raw.
  6. newcomer
    newcomer 26 March 2016 11: 06
    +7
    let the yankees torment themselves with the toy. epic sf35 reminds santa barbara.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 26 March 2016 11: 08
      -1
      So we have the same epic with pack fa ...
  7. hartlend
    hartlend 26 March 2016 11: 06
    +2
    Larger F-35 and let them serve longer, the states will go faster around the world.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 March 2016 11: 07
    +3
    The cost of maintaining the fleet of the latest American F-35 Lightning fighters over the period of operation will be $ 1,12 trillion.

    I would very much like to hear the comments of those who stood behind this plane with their breasts, criticized our aircraft and abundantly minus those who disagree with this. Aw, answer specialists with an American bias.
    1. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 26 March 2016 11: 13
      +3
      I'd love to hear the comments of those who stood behind this plane

      Kaptsov write! But you are unlikely to ever see him admit that he is wrong. Geniuses are not mistaken! laughing
      1. dauria
        dauria 26 March 2016 11: 22
        +1
        I would very much like to hear the comments of those who stood breastfeeding for this plane,


        Without "breasts" - a modern plane. When we (or rather the Chinese) will have 2443 such, then we will compare the costs. We have the same capitalism, right?
        1. Rokossovsky
          Rokossovsky 26 March 2016 11: 28
          +4
          When we will have 2443 such

          Thanks, we’ll manage somehow ...
          1. dauria
            dauria 26 March 2016 11: 44
            +3
            Thanks, we’ll manage somehow ...


            But the cavalryman of the first world Rokossovsky in the 41st could no longer without tanks .... There would not be a horse. smile
            1. Rokossovsky
              Rokossovsky 26 March 2016 11: 55
              +5
              But the cavalryman of the first world Rokossovsky in the 41 was no longer without tanks .... There wouldn’t be a horse

              But he could in 44! Operation Bagration. Commander - K.K. Rokossovsky The strike at Parichi by the forces of the 4th Guards Cavalry Corps under the command of I.A.
              More examples needed?
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 11: 32
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          Without "breasts" - a modern plane. When we (or rather the Chinese) will have 2443 such, then we will compare the costs. We have the same capitalism, right?

          only with the difference that the Americans consider their expenses in dollars, and you in rubles.
          1. dauria
            dauria 26 March 2016 11: 48
            +4
            consider your expenses in dollars, and you in rubles.


            Yes, even in parrots ... I can understand that a Cuban banana will be cheaper than grown beyond the Arctic Circle. But how can you make a cheaper plane with the same characteristics as the F-35? Who to rob?
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          3. lis-ik
            lis-ik 26 March 2016 12: 13
            +2
            It is preferable to consider expenditures in rubles on the territory of the Russian Federation, because the main income is in dollars, in my opinion all the trouble with the free exchange rate is focused on this. I said this very softly.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 11: 30
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60

      I would very much like to hear the comments of those who stood behind this plane with their breasts, criticized our aircraft and abundantly minus those who disagree with this. Aw, answer specialists with an American bias.

      I did not criticize the T-50, because the car turned out great in many ways, but I just think that the F-35 is a great car.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 26 March 2016 11: 42
        +2
        And personally there are no complaints about you. There were "geniuses" from aviation and fans of everything American, who proved that everything was the best there. Therefore, now they started to minus.
      2. Mobius
        Mobius 26 March 2016 11: 42
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        I did not criticize the T-50, because the car turned out great in many ways, but I just think that the F-35 is a great car.


        You have a split personality (joke) ...
      3. kotvov
        kotvov 26 March 2016 18: 15
        0
        but I just think that the F-35 is a great car. ,,
        it is undoubtedly your right, but as they say operation will show.
  9. fn111
    fn111 26 March 2016 11: 07
    +5
    The grandest divorce on grandmas
  10. konetit
    konetit 26 March 2016 11: 11
    +3
    “Compared with last year’s estimate, these expenses increased by $ 107 billion.” Yes, they will drive themselves into the coffin with such expenses.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 26 March 2016 11: 13
      +1
      And why is German gold asked ???
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 March 2016 11: 12
    +2
    And nothing so counting! Saw the loot is not weak! laughing
  12. Human Factor
    Human Factor 26 March 2016 11: 12
    +2
    It will not be enough.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 26 March 2016 11: 14
    +1
    Yes, they will roll these planes and write off for the sake of a new super weapon, it was already with the F-117 Nighthawk. Then, in general, the wave went to the account of the invisibility of aircraft and it was just a super-super plane, and then it turned out ....... ........ it turned out! laughing laughing laughing
  14. izya top
    izya top 26 March 2016 11: 14
    +3
    More than a trillion dollars will be needed to maintain the F-35 fleet for the entire period of its operation.
    well what to do, print request
  15. family tree
    family tree 26 March 2016 11: 18
    +2
    Until 2070 belay Odd, I’ve already gone crazy what So much to look into the future, although there or donkey, or padish, normul, cho, they read about Nasruddin revered.
    1. izya top
      izya top 26 March 2016 11: 22
      +14
      Quote: perepilka
      Until 2070 belay Odd, I’ve already gone crazy what

      oh well, there is nothing left wink
      py.sy. Hello hi
      1. family tree
        family tree 26 March 2016 11: 25
        +1
        Hello Andrey!
        Quote: izya top
        oh well, there is nothing left wink

        Yes, so many do not live !!! fool
        1. izya top
          izya top 26 March 2016 11: 39
          +10
          Quote: perepilka
          Yes, so many do not live !!!

          healthy lifestyle - boiled hedgehogs, reindeer moss, glassy ... you can stretch 150 years what
          1. family tree
            family tree 26 March 2016 11: 51
            +2
            Quote: izya top
            healthy lifestyle - boiled hedgehogs, moss, steklomoy ... 150 years, you can stretch what

            Biting hedgehogs biting repeat But for soldering minors, you can rattle under the article what drinks
            1. izya top
              izya top 26 March 2016 11: 58
              +5
              Quote: perepilka
              Biting hedgehogs biting But for soldering minors, you can rattle under the article

              so you don’t pour hedgehogs. and you can bear repeat
              1. family tree
                family tree 26 March 2016 12: 30
                +3
                Quote: izya top
                and bear I can feel

                Quickly, as I grew up, I learned on the harp belay Oh, how time flies! laughing
                1. izya top
                  izya top 26 March 2016 12: 37
                  +4
                  Quote: perepilka
                  As soon as it grew

                  Did you see Ruslana in childhood?
                  1. family tree
                    family tree 26 March 2016 14: 15
                    +1
                    Quote: izya top
                    Did you see Ruslana in childhood?

                    I do not, but the boys said

                    For a long time now, this tiny one, behind, it’s how grown up, a grinder of space, thinking, again, time flies
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 26 March 2016 11: 41
        +4
        Izya-offset !!!!! wassat
      3. Gurinov Nikolay
        Gurinov Nikolay 26 March 2016 19: 18
        0
        Where did you get such a joke? I approve!
  16. newcomer
    newcomer 26 March 2016 11: 18
    +4
    divan soldier, so it’s forgiving to us, after the 90s and a noose of sanctions. in any case, according to the technology, we have tested during this time we have created 3 types of aircraft of 5 generations: instantly 1.44, su47, t50. ours would be a tenth of their budget, we would have masterpieces.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 March 2016 11: 23
      0
      Quote: newbie
      su47

      And what, the 5th generation "Berkut"?
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  18. tajrov73
    tajrov73 26 March 2016 11: 24
    -8
    F16 brought to mind and this will be seen as we love to envy, the raptors in their Unas series only promise that maybe someday they will start supplying the T50 to the troops with equipment from the fourth-generation fighter, something doesn’t work for ours with the T50.
  19. newcomer
    newcomer 26 March 2016 11: 35
    +2
    Vladimir, but isn’t it?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 26 March 2016 11: 48
      0
      Quote: newbie
      Vladimir, but isn’t it?

      And what is in it from the accepted signs of the 5th generation? Stealth? Cruising supersonic?
      1. retardu
        retardu 26 March 2016 15: 06
        0
        And what is wrong with stealth?
        Do you have some kind of infa refuting?
        Full of foreign articles indicating that its stealth is lower than that of f-22
  20. Ribald
    Ribald 26 March 2016 11: 39
    +3
    10 years and one and a half trillion dollars have already been sawn on this "Miracle". Lockheed Martin is tightly attached to the American budget, and there are dozens of such cantors in the United States. The military lobby in the United States did not work in vain.
  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 March 2016 11: 40
    0
    A strange plane of unknown purpose. Such a fantastic "Glider" from Hollywood. The plane must first fly. Fast, smart, reliable. Operated in all climatic zones from north to south. And what is this one counting on in an air battle with our Su 35, at least? F 16 - and that is more dangerous! In general, it looks like a "Grand Panama" of the type of invisible F 117th. Or the unforgettable "Starfighter", who killed so many pilots - no war needed.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 12: 10
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      A strange plane of unknown purpose. Such a fantastic "Glider" from Hollywood. The plane must first fly. Fast, smart, reliable. Operated in all climatic zones from north to south. And what is this one counting on in an air battle with our Su 35, at least? F 16 - and that is more dangerous! In general, it looks like a "Grand Panama" of the type of invisible F 117th. Or the unforgettable "Starfighter", who killed so many pilots - no war needed.

      He will simply see the Su-35 at a distance of 185 km, while the Su can see the F-35 on radar only 60 km away. T / e chance for BVB is extremely low. Then today the BVB starts at a distance of 30 km. And there are used all-aspect missiles like the Israeli "PITON-4/5". Well, underestimating the F-35 as a maneuverable fighter after the performance of the Norwegian test pilot is no longer comme il faut, especially since
      Restrictions on maneuverability (no more than 3G on full tanks, no more than 7G with 55% refueling) associated with flaws in the F-35 valves and fuel lines are resolved.
      On March 19, Lockheed already has 3 aircraft undergoing alterations, the plan is to carry out all tests by August 1 and issue 12 reconditioned aircraft (that is, at the time of the announcement of IOC F-35A).
      The team finished retrofitting the first jet with the fuel system modification a few weeks ago - nine days early, Harrigian said. Two more jets are getting the modification and are expected to come out of the shop March 19. The plan is to have 12 fully retrofitted jets ready for the squadron by Aug. 1, he said.
      “We don't see any problem with modifying the airplanes to support IOC,” Babione said
      .
      1. user1212
        user1212 26 March 2016 13: 21
        +3
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        He just sees the Su-35 at a distance of 185 km, while the Su can see the F-35 on the radar in only 60 km

        According to this theoretical calculation, there are more questions than answers.
      2. question
        question 26 March 2016 17: 01
        0
        Do you need these hundreds of kilometers? If they push over the battlefield in priests!
        That's because of the corner who shy away, then we need! Or rinse off!
      3. Kasym
        Kasym 26 March 2016 21: 35
        0
        Aron Zaavi, good evening! And if there are Khibiny, President-S, or some other electronic warfare on the plane? But there are also ground-based radars that can aim at the enemy. So it turns out that you can't write off BVB. And you must admit that its (F-35) universalization (according to the concept, it should be Istr.-Bombar., Shturmavik, Deck) is not good. Hope for electronics; which can be chopped off or affected by the missile, in the fight against the enemy, with modern electronic warfare; I would not. And write off agility with speed.
        And I’m also afraid that with his computer bells and whistles, the Russians will not succeed in Syria (landing - retrofitted - and again to the sky). With this constant reprogramming after every flight. I don’t know whether they are breeding or not. And one engine, even the most modern one, does not inspire confidence. hi
      4. family tree
        family tree 26 March 2016 23: 22
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        He just sees the Su-35 at a distance of 185 km, while the Su can see the F-35 on the radar in only 60 km.

        Are you sure? And then on the Internet and read Mona. Vaughn, about "Caliber" also read what
        And at the expense of detection, so thermal, have already been canceled? Yes, and in the active, he straight yells, they say, I am here! And at the expense of the R-27t the silence was continuous, and the R-37 didn’t seem to have been canceled yet what
    2. krops777
      krops777 26 March 2016 12: 30
      +6
      A strange plane of unknown purpose. Such a fantastic "Glider" from Hollywood. The plane must first fly. Fast, smart, reliable. Operated in all climatic zones from north to south.


      Well, if the Americans didn’t make much of the maneuverability of this aircraft, it was rather this flying stealth platform with a bunch of everything, that is, I saw it beforehand, launched a rocket and flew away.
  22. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 26 March 2016 11: 46
    +5
    but our handsome man flew! flies! and how it will fly! until all tests pass successfully) let it continue to be the same! soon new engines will test on it)
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 11: 58
      0
      Quote: maxxdesign
      but our handsome man flew! flies! and how it will fly! until all tests pass successfully) let it continue to be the same! soon new engines will test on it)

      Well, so far the matter is in no hurry.
      New schedule for T-50-10:
      Docking of the fuselage - 01.04.
      Docking POINTS - 01.06.
      Transfer to LIS - 01.08.
      Drawing RPP - 15.09. - 05.11.
      The first flight is 20.11.
      Change is 01.12.
      1. severyanin
        severyanin 26 March 2016 15: 28
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Well, so far the matter is in no hurry.
        New schedule for T-50-10:
        Docking of the fuselage - 01.04.
        Docking POINTS - 01.06.
        Transfer to LIS - 01.08.
        Drawing RPP - 15.09. - 05.11.
        The first flight is 20.11.
        Change is 01.12.

        Judging by your awareness and nationality, somewhere our counterintelligence is underdeveloped ... bully bully bully
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 15: 41
          0
          Quote: severyanin

          Judging by your awareness and nationality, somewhere our counterintelligence is underdeveloped ... bully bully bully
          he who seeks will find. In general, all the secrets today are in technology, not general information.
        2. family tree
          family tree 26 March 2016 15: 46
          -1
          Quote: severyanin
          our counterintelligence is underdeveloped ... bully bully bully

          Normal everything wink
          No, comrades Jews, that’s how it is, I swear by Mamba yes
  23. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 26 March 2016 11: 51
    +3
    A good business people have squeezed themselves out))) ... for years and at the expense of the budget of the entire mattress power ... fellows, keep it up ... more expensive and archival projects to the world hegemon ... two more squadrons must be built and maintained before the holes in the sides)))
  24. pts-m
    pts-m 26 March 2016 12: 00
    +2
    Then they are sent to Pendosi to Japan and Affstrallia. Hai there, local authorities serve these letaki. And these friends of the pendostana have no place to go. And if they begin to yap, the “democratizer” is always on their platoon. Yugoslavia is an example for the rest of the world.
  25. newcomer
    newcomer 26 March 2016 12: 10
    +3
    Vladimir, in short: the airspeed is 1200, the glider is made of composites up to 90 percent. And su 47 deck.
  26. newcomer
    newcomer 26 March 2016 12: 13
    +4
    Aron Zavi, we harness for a long time, but drive fast.
  27. Dezinto
    Dezinto 26 March 2016 12: 14
    +4
    One engine. I'm certainly not a pilot. But I read that this is a significant minus for an airplane of such a (stated) level.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 12: 18
      +1
      Quote: DEZINTO
      One engine. I'm certainly not a pilot. But I read that this is a significant minus for an airplane of such a (stated) level.

      F-16 flies beautifully.
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 26 March 2016 12: 50
        +6
        f - 16 what year of release?

        And this claim to be the fifth generation.

        One hit even from a gun into the tail - the engine was covered and bailout. And ours on the second will reach = profit - the plane is intact, and we did not have to spend the parachute chair. smile
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 12: 55
          +1
          Quote: DEZINTO
          fOne hit even from a cannon into the tail - the engine is covered and bailout. And ours on the second will reach = profit - the plane is intact, and we did not have to spend the parachute chair. smile

          from the gun? what When was the last time a plane in the WB was shot down from a cannon?
          1. Dezinto
            Dezinto 26 March 2016 13: 12
            +1
            When was the last time I was used, I certainly do not know. But is it available for some reason? which means the pilot knows how to get there? And that means it will aim at the engine - well, most likely .. yes?

            So I'm talking about the fact that the failure of one engine is not yet a kapets - if there are two.



            There she is. Not the shaded part. What ? uselessly designed it?

            So it can. Go into the tail and .... engine - nafig. Well, theoretically.

            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 26 March 2016 13: 22
              +3
              Quote: DEZINTO
              When was the last time I was used, I certainly do not know. But is it available for some reason? which means the pilot knows how to get there? And that means it will aim at the engine - well, most likely .. yes?
              So I'm talking about the fact that the failure of one engine is not yet a kapets - if there are two.
              ]

              The last time an air gun was deployed in Africa almost 20 years ago. February 26, 1999 - Ethiopian Su-27 blocked the Eritrean MiG-29. And the gun is that last chance that the special forces have is a gun.
        2. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 27 March 2016 10: 17
          0
          "And ours on the second will hold out = profit - the plane is intact,
          and the parachute chair did not have to be spent. "///

          Two Su-35 engines together give a little more traction than one F-35.
          If there was one powerful enough - they would put one.
          1. user1212
            user1212 28 March 2016 11: 11
            -1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Two Su-35 engines together give a little more traction than one F-35.
            If there was one powerful enough - they would put one.

            Laugh
            The weight of our AL-41F1S motor (one) is 1530, the thrust on the afterburner is 14500 kgf = specific thrust 9,47 kgf / kg
            F135 (version WITHOUT a lifting fan) mass 2450, thrust afterburner 19500 = specific thrust 7.96 kgf / kg
            Or maybe the fact is that the Americans are not able to make light motors? Although F119 (from F22) has 8,94 kgf / kg, but fuel consumption is 1,943 kg / kgf · h against 0,86 kg / kgf · h for F35
      2. user1212
        user1212 26 March 2016 13: 43
        +7
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        F-16 flies beautifully.

        I have never seen a photo of a returning F16 with a disassembled motor
  28. semuil
    semuil 26 March 2016 12: 27
    +2
    Under the press, it will be cheaper + colormet.
  29. Forest
    Forest 26 March 2016 13: 20
    0
    Given the operating time and the number of machines ordered, it is very, very cheap.
  30. iouris
    iouris 26 March 2016 14: 24
    0
    The figure is big, but humanity will pay for it.
    One can be practically sure that in the relation "beneficial effect - cost" it will surpass everything that existed before it. Since the late 1950s, progress has been made on this issue, as this is the main customer criterion.
  31. Gurinov Nikolay
    Gurinov Nikolay 26 March 2016 19: 22
    0
    Everything is as always: some will print, others will master. And to live well. And to live well is even better! It’s a pity that not everyone.
  32. Disorder
    Disorder 26 March 2016 23: 12
    +1
    “The US Air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps expect these aircraft, the most expensive weapons system in history, to be in service until at least 2070.”

    Will they endure so many years and will not do anything more expensive?
  33. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 27 March 2016 10: 13
    +1
    The original article states that
    this trillion - when operated until 2070 (!).
    Based on annual operating costs, just once
    are lower than in previous calculations.