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Russia wrote off debts to Uzbekistan in order to lend again? ..

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With an interested exclamation: “and us? ..” the decision about the next Russia writing off the debt of a foreign state was met by Russian debtors, including foreign exchange mortgage holders and other Russian citizens in respect of whom the lenders are not so generous. This is an intergovernmental agreement between the Russian Federation and Uzbekistan, signed in 2014 year and ratified by the State Duma of the Russian Federation at the end of last week.


The intergovernmental agreement should, as it were, settle the “mutual financial claims” between Moscow and Tashkent, which also emerged as 90's. These “mutual financial claims” are related to the operations of the former USSR, as well as Russian loans issued to Uzbekistan in 1992-1993. Yes, yes ... An amazing thing, but at a time when the “salvific” Gaidar reforms were flourishing, and when the majority of the population of Russia was barely making ends meet, the statesmen managed to lend to foreign states. Where this money flowed is a mystery ...

Uzbekistan in 1992 and 1993 received so-called technical loans for the purchase of certain goods. When receiving, I undertook, of course, to repay everything to a penny (or rather, to a cent, since loans were issued in US currency) - either in goods or financial means on the basis of transferring the debt status from technical to state.

The total amount of Uzbekistan’s debt to Russia (for 2014 year - at the time of the signing of an intergovernmental agreement) was almost 0,9 billion dollars. For the main payments - 500 million dollars, the remaining funds - accrued interest, which (interest), judging by the amount accumulated over more than 20 years, were very benign.

It should be noted that approximately after 4 of the year after receiving funds from Russia, whose economy in those years was breathing its last, official Tashkent decided that it was time to stop talking about debt to Russia. Uzbek “partners” in 1997 year announced that they would not repay anything, because “Russia owes Uzbekistan more”. In general, in fact, the traditional bazaar version of bargaining in the expanses of the former USSR. The only difference, for example, from the Ukrainian version is that Uzbekistan at the state level refrained from official accusations of Russia (RSFSR) in the “Soviet occupation of the republic” ... The rest is a usual song for those who do not want to repay their debts.

Uzbekistan put forward reciprocal claims from the Russian Federation, announcing that after the collapse of the USSR, the Diamond Fund was “wrongly divided” and in general ... - Moscow “appropriated funds” for republican (Uzbek) legal entities.

But shrugging and twisting a finger at the temple from the Ukrainian decisions in the form of the Yatsenyuk “moratorium” on loan payments, Russia really forgot that there was already a similar precedent in our attitude. And this precedent was connected with “fraternal” Uzbekistan. In May 1998, at the legislative level, the Uzbek parliament called credit agreements issued to Tashkent by Moscow in 1993, “illegitimate”. That is, the receipt of funds was very legitimate, but their return was not ... The logic is quite at the level of modern Kiev. At the same time, the deputies of the Parliament of the Republic of Uzbekistan virtually canceled out another agreement on debt restructuring, signed by the governments of the two countries 14 in March 1997.

As a result, from the half-billion debt (plus interest at that time), the Uzbek partners agreed to pay Russia 43 a million dollars (less than 10%), in response to Moscow claiming as much as 2 a billion dollars! These claims included the so-called "diamond resources".

And now - after the 17-year-old reciprocal statements in the style of “and who are you?” And “give me my money!” Russia and Uzbekistan decided to sign a new agreement - that there are no more complaints. And after another year and a half (that is, the other day), the State Duma of Russia ratified this agreement, as if making it clear to the Uzbek “partners” that you now owe us nothing. Moreover, they shouldn’t even have those $ 43 million that Tashkent was about to pay. Instead of this amount, the document contains the amount already in $ 25 million (apparently, for the salary of a couple or three players of the Russian national football team ...), and Tashkent must pay it off within a month from the moment the new agreement enters into force. Uzbekistan agreed to this amount. Still would...

Russia wrote off debts to Uzbekistan in order to lend again? ..


The explanatory note to the bill, on the basis of which the write-off is made, contains a very interesting phrase that sounds like a “difficult compromise”.

If a write-off of almost a billion dollars in credit funds is actually made, what is the trade-off? This can be judged if mentally go back to December 2014 of the year. Then Russian President Vladimir Putin made a short-term visit to his Uzbek counterpart Islam Karimov. Following the meeting, as announced, the parties agreed to waive mutual financial claims (for the 1992-1993 loans and "diamond debts" loans) and about the purchase of military equipment from Russia by Tashkent. In this case, the statement on the procurement of military equipment and weapons it sounded in the form of original promises from the Uzbek “partners” - they say, we’ll buy for sure ... Not only that, it was a question of “partial lending” of such hypothetical purchases by the Russian Federation itself.

That is, the situation on December 2014 was reduced to something like the following: Uzbekistan had a considerable debt to Russia, Uzbekistan seemed to want to buy military equipment and weapons from Russia, even more Russia wanted to enter the Uzbek market with military equipment and weapons, but Tashkent with this, he announced that he did not have sufficient funds for such purchases. Like, give money - buy, honest, noble word. However, under Russian law, Russia did not have the right to credit Uzbekistan again as a foreign state because it refused to pay its previously accumulated debts.

What is the result? As a result, the “old” debt to Uzbekistan is written off, including in order to give Uzbekistan again in debt ... Where is the guarantee that Uzbekistan, if it buys Russian military equipment, will repay the “new” debt? - open question. The only guarantee that Russia has received at the same time is that Uzbekistan will not demand that Moscow return the “diamond debts” through the courts, which Tashkent has threatened several times. True, here too it may turn out that after a while Uzbekistan will suddenly forget about its obligations and again make claims.

In general, I want to believe that there is at least some hint of pragmatism on the part of Russia in writing off the debt to Uzbekistan and the readiness to lend again to this state.
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 28 March 2016 07: 53
    +82
    What about us? After all, we too have forgiven all contributions up to 91 years.
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 28 March 2016 08: 10
      +49
      The Russian State Duma has ratified this agreement, as if making it clear to the Uzbek "partners" that you now owe us nothing.

      These "lawyers" would have a budgetary salary in the amount of 16 thousand rubles, and each should be credited with a loan of one and a half million and let them then be scattered with the people's money!
      1. Altona
        Altona 28 March 2016 09: 33
        +18
        Quote: Starover_Z
        These "lawyers" would have a budgetary salary in the amount of 16 thousand rubles, and each should be credited with a loan of one and a half million and let them then be scattered with the people's money!

        -----------------------
        There are no words for such actions of our Ministry of Finance and the Government. They spread rot on their citizens, single mothers are debts, microfinance organizations have bred. China acts in these territories by no means more pragmatic and is gaining much more economic weight.
        1. SU69
          SU69 28 March 2016 11: 22
          +14
          Quote: Altona
          Quote: Starover_Z
          These "lawyers" would have a budgetary salary in the amount of 16 thousand rubles, and each should be credited with a loan of one and a half million and let them then be scattered with the people's money!

          -----------------------
          There are no words for such actions of our Ministry of Finance and the Government. They spread rot on their citizens, single mothers are debts, microfinance organizations have bred. China acts in these territories by no means more pragmatic and is gaining much more economic weight.

          They are not ours.
          They were set to rob our land.
          And they are doing it successfully.
          [media = http: // https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = Hs_2m_Xmzwg]
      2. FenH
        FenH 28 March 2016 09: 55
        +8
        Quote: Starover_Z
        The Russian State Duma has ratified this agreement, as if making it clear to the Uzbek "partners" that you now owe us nothing.

        These "lawyers" would have a budgetary salary in the amount of 16 thousand rubles, and each should be credited with a loan of one and a half million and let them then be scattered with the people's money!


        Good day to all mosquitoes hi Volodin Alexey told only part of the truth, probably in order to once again point out the inferiority of the government. I myself am not enthusiastic about other actions of the government,BUT:
        The government of Uzbekistan recognized only part of the debt in the amount of $ 43,1 million, putting forward counterclaims, in particular, to the stake in the Diamond Fund of the former USSR, which were estimated by the Uzbek side at 1-2 billion US dollars. и For both contracting parties, the signing of the agreement was a difficult compromise, emphasized in the accompanying documents. “For official Tashkent, the concession consists in the actual recognition of obligations on all previously received loans. In addition, after a long period of hesitation, the Uzbek side withdraws claims on the Diamond Fund of the former USSR and the so-called “internal currency debt” of the former USSR. The most important concession of the Russian side is to provide the republic with significant debt relief, which is 95% of the principal, ”the explanatory note says.

        Agree the reason for cancellation has changed a bit hi
        1. Talgat
          Talgat 28 March 2016 16: 49
          0
          I agree in you dear FenH!
          1. FenH
            FenH 28 March 2016 17: 31
            0
            Quote: Talgat
            I agree in you dear FenH!


            Thank you dear hi
        2. g1v2
          g1v2 28 March 2016 17: 40
          +6
          I think that everything is simpler. Karimov, after all, led Uzbekistan out of almost all structures, such as the CSTO, and is trying to wag between us and the states. Most likely they agreed with him that he would not play for the states. With Turkmenistan, too, everything is not easy - their mattresses are also spud. The Caspian Sea is closed from the states and under the agreement the Caspian countries will not give access to all other countries. But the United States promises protection to the Turkmens in exchange for deploying there the means of monitoring the Caspian flotilla, which they had not previously taken into account. You need to understand that we are friends not from great love, but for the benefit. Let’s hope that this is the last concession to Karimov - for already tired of blackmail. One such has already played for both teams - the last name of Yanukovych. am
        3. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 28 March 2016 17: 53
          +16
          Quote: FenH
          for a stake in the Diamond Fund of the former USSR, which were estimated by the Uzbek side at 1-2 billion US dollars

          Sorry, but when the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia as the successor left all Soviet debts and assets to itself. And this was recorded. So dear Uzbeks may have some rights, but with the rights they took upon themselves part of the Soviet debt. And now I would have such a neighbor and did not give a ruble
          1. FenH
            FenH 28 March 2016 18: 01
            -1
            Quote: Pilat2009
            Sorry, but when the Soviet Union collapsed, Russia as the successor left all Soviet debts and assets to itself. And this was recorded. So dear Uzbeks may have some rights, but with the rights they took upon themselves part of the Soviet debt. And now I would have such a neighbor and did not give a ruble


            If judicial disputes began, then it’s far from the fact that Russia managed to prove this in an international court. An example of Yukos, so it’s better to close this issue once and for all with the Diamond Fund hi
      3. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey 28 March 2016 13: 21
        +10
        And the current government does not care about its people, they are a little afraid, but they do not stop spitting, the Ministry of Finance, with its mediocre work, first ruins the country, then at the expense of its citizens, those who produce all the wealth, solve budget problems and immediately forgive debts that these comrades have not earned but only considered, forgiven out of "necessity", well, just like in the Union the people of the RSFSR made ends meet, and they built factories for their comrades in Uzbekistan, the Baltic States, and Georgia, and the standard of living was not much higher. I would like to ask the gentlemen from the Ministry of Finance and the government, what are you trying to achieve? Do you dislike our president and want to cause indignation among the people?
        1. Villon
          Villon 29 March 2016 00: 46
          +1
          Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey
          I would like to ask the gentlemen from the Ministry of Finance and the government, what are you trying to achieve? You do not like our president and you want to cause indignation among the people?

          Experience shows that the more debt-bound a people are, the less capable they are of indignation. He has no strength for this.
    2. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 28 March 2016 08: 39
      +17
      We would go to the markets, see how much the Uzbek fruits are sold in the season. So they would return everything with melons, grapes, and even tails of jerboas, if there is a demand for them!

      To take the same Armenia - it transferred a bunch of enterprises on account of debts, but in Uzbekistan there is nothing at all? And not a single working migrant from Uzbekistan to Russia?
      1. gray smeet
        gray smeet 28 March 2016 08: 46
        +27
        The fact that Russia easily writes off billions of dollars to everyone who smiles sweetly is scary. The number of states to which many billions of debts were written off is growing dangerously. But this is not so scary, it’s scary that we again lend to the same countries !!!!!!!! Sovereigns of Russia - learn from the comrades from across the ocean to learn the usury!
        1. Nick888
          Nick888 28 March 2016 09: 11
          +16
          It's funny, but yes, it's a fact. The funny thing is, if a squabble against Russia breaks out, these very "cute smiles" will say that they are neutral and will bury themselves.
          1. sergeybulkin
            sergeybulkin 28 March 2016 09: 47
            +24
            It is frightening that Russia can easily write off billions of dollars to everyone

            In Soviet times, the USSR gave money to everyone left and right, all of Africa and central and southern America were inundated with dollars. Weapons were loaned to anyone who wished. So what? Never mind...
            The decision to write off the debts of the 38 poorest countries totaling $ 55 billion was approved at the G2005 summit in Gleneagles in 11,6. Russia accounts for $ 16 billion. This year, the budget has planned to write off debts of 2007 African countries in the amount of about one billion dollars, including interest. Another 13 may receive debt forgiveness in the XNUMX budget
            African countries.In total, the debt of foreign states of Russia as of January 1, 2006 amounted to almost 2 trillion rubles (68,968 billion dollars).


            Rating of debtor states of Russia as of January 1.01.2006, XNUMX
            (fractions are rounded down):
            million US dollars + in other currencies (million) = total in US dollars equivalent
            1. Cuba 553 + 19322 (TRR) = 19875
            2. Afghanistan 1121 + 9164 (SUR 5488) = 10285
            3. Iraq 9421 + 3 (SUR 2) = 9424
            4. DPRK 21 + 7396 (SUR 4429) = 7417
            5. Algeria 94 + 507 (EUR 423) + 2366 (SUR 1417) + 1682 (XDR 1202) = 4649
            6. Libya 3520
            7. India 755 + 8 (SUR 5) + 37 (XDR 27) + 2000 (INR 90978) = 2800
            8. PRC 1412
            9. Cambodia 0 + 1392 (SUR 834) + 1 (GBP 0,77) = 1393
            10. Syria 1378
            11. Yemen 1257
            12. Vietnam 642 + 0,16 (SUR 0,099) = 642
            13. Somalia 0 + 572 (SUR 343) = 572
            14. Laos 383
            15. Mongolia 17 + 155 (TRR) = 172
            16. Congo (Brazz.) 169 (*)
            17. Ethiopia 162 (*)
            18. Guinea 157 (*)
            19. Mozambique 148 (*)
            20. Pakistan 131
            21. Zambia 112 (*)
            22. Madagascar 111 (*)
            23. Serb. and Chernog. 92
            24. Morocco 0 + 52 (EUR 44) = 52
            25. Albania 36
            26. Nigeria 32
            27. Tanzania 21 (*)
            28. Guinea-Bissau 20 (*)
            29. Benin 11 (*)
            30. Cape Verde 8
            31. Sao Tome et 3 (*)
            32. Sudan 1 + 1,6 (SUR 1) = 2,6
            33. Burundi 2,3 (*)
            34. Tunisia 2,2
            35. Seychelles about. 2,0
            36. Nepal 1,5 (SUR 0,9)
            37. Chad 1,4 (*)
            38. CAR 0,760
            39. Equ. Guinea 0,632
            40. Guyana 0,277 (*)
            41. Grenada 0,267 (SUR 160 thousand)
            42. Bangladesh 0,025 (SUR 15 thousand)
            TOTAL: 21797 USD + 19447 (TRR) + 20931 (SUR 12534) + 2000 (INR 90978) +
            + 1720 (XDR 1229) + 561 (EUR 468) + 1 (GBP 0,7) = about 66,5 billion dollars

            Curiously, our rulers know for sure that no one will repay our debts, never, under any circumstances, and still continue to give.
            This information is of course old, BUT nothing has changed since then, the government of the Russian Federation continues with the stubbornness of a maniac to rob its country, giving loans to all interested countries at ridiculous interest, investing in US government bonds essentially sponsoring them without any profit for the Russian Federation!
            1. the most important
              the most important 28 March 2016 10: 57
              +17
              Quote: sergeybulkin
              the Russian government continues with the stubbornness of a maniac to rob his country

              Have you seen many adequate people in the government ??? They can only make round and smart eyes and babble that the nights do not sleep, do not eat, do not .... but only think about the people. And here's what is surprising: there is no success, the economy is in the pope, and millions of women earn leadership in dozens of companies in leadership positions! Well, what can be expected from them when they are headed not by a specialist in economics, but by a photographer?
              1. Denis56rus
                Denis56rus 28 March 2016 11: 53
                +6
                Quote: the most important
                Quote: sergeybulkin
                the Russian government continues with the stubbornness of a maniac to rob his country

                Have you seen many adequate people in the government ??? They can only make round and smart eyes and babble that the nights do not sleep, do not eat, do not .... but only think about the people. And here's what is surprising: there is no success, the economy is in the pope, and millions of women earn leadership in dozens of companies in leadership positions! Well, what can be expected from them when they are headed not by a specialist in economics, but by a photographer?

                How slaves work on sticks
            2. Kenneth
              Kenneth 28 March 2016 12: 37
              -1
              Most of these debts were made during the USSR. Really then did not understand that debts are not repayable.
              1. Villon
                Villon 29 March 2016 00: 58
                +1
                Quote: Kenneth
                Most of these debts were made during the USSR. Really then did not understand that debts are not repayable.

                It seems that these debts made by the USSR were part of a policy aimed at distracting the USSR from dealing with internal problems.
            3. Kenneth
              Kenneth 28 March 2016 12: 37
              -1
              Most of these debts were made during the USSR. Really then did not understand that debts are not repayable.
            4. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 29 March 2016 01: 08
              +4
              The table does not seem to include the CIS countries. Well, it cannot be that ten years ago none of them owed Russia. Yes, the same Uzbeks ... request
            5. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 29 March 2016 18: 41
              0
              Quote: sergeybulkin
              Burundi 2,3 (*

              Ohrenet. Russia's generosity knows no limits
              Even Pakistan was sort of sideways, although it spoiled a lot of blood
          2. shalim
            shalim 28 March 2016 12: 17
            +4
            if a squabble against Russia breaks out, these very "cute smiles" will say that they are neutral and will bury themselves


            just about now, these creeps from the buffer zone already gored ...
      2. Corporal Valera
        Corporal Valera 28 March 2016 10: 45
        +16
        Quote: ButchCassidy
        And not a single working migrant from Uzbekistan to Russia?

        Really! In such a powerful country as Uzbekistan, Russia has absolutely no leverage! Why then from Ukraine to ask for a debt? Forgive the debts left-to-right, why don’t you have the dough to fuck? This has become a direct tradition with us. How to knock money out of its population, even racketeering was legalized ... Can our heroic collectors, who so bravely fight with their citizens, give the status of international organizations? Let Karimov firecrackers throw in the window. Well, or at least they’ll be bullied under the door, for a billion dollars
      3. exSUman
        exSUman 28 March 2016 11: 55
        +8
        Uzbek products are expensive because they continue to grow everything "the old fashioned way" there, since the climate allows ... their fruits are free of GMOs and other innovative "delights", and secondly, Uzbek refrigerated cars for some reason are not allowed beyond the border stations .. . why? A question for our legislators. Firsthand information ... my friend works on the Uzbek railways as a conductor of a coupling of five refrigerators, travels to us as far as Orsk, Sol-Iletsk or Troitsk ... moreover, they are driven into a dead end, they are not allowed to unload until the last they do not start to run out of fuel to maintain the required temperature ... and when this moment comes, dealers appear who buy from them everything that they brought at bargain prices ... why are the prices in the markets so? I think the answer is obvious ... the enterprises of Uzbekistan have long been standing still - ruined, although our presence is there: the Akhangaran cement plant (Tashkent region) with a capacity of 1800 thousand tons per year (2 in terms of capacity in the country) belongs to the Russian holding "Eurocement" ... Why Russian companies did not participate in the purchase of the country's only chemical plant producing ammophos is not clear, as a result, this plant is run by the French and Spaniards, and this is direct control over the entire agriculture of the country, because soils in Uzbekistan without ammophos are rapidly becoming unsuitable for cultivation ... there are two giants of the national industry, the Navoi Mining and Metallurgical and Almalyk Mining and Metallurgical Combines, there too we cannot see ours ... the absence of a lobby in the Uzbek government structures made it possible to destroy and destroy the unique aircraft plant in Tashkent (in Soviet times, it produced the IL-76 of various modifications, including military ones) and agricultural engineering plants (for the cotton-sowing and cotton-picking segments) ... they were simply bankrupt and destroyed ... in short, ours are to blame, it was not no intelligible policy towards Uzbekistan in particular and the entire CIS in general, here we have what we have ...
        1. gray smeet
          gray smeet 28 March 2016 13: 07
          +3
          Quote: exSUman
          Uzbek products .............


          Our entrepreneurs invest in Uzbekistan, and then their (and not only Russian) business is successfully squeezed out at the state level. The Russian mobile operator was heard about. Here we need state guarantees from Russia ... And in Uzbekistan, all import-export is the business of the Karimov family - who was engaged in import-export from Uzbekistan - can tell about all the delights of this business - in short - never work with Uzbekistan, especially officially! !! - better just give the money back how much you don't mind! He himself was engaged in export-import transactions for 5 years - at first glance it is profitable, when you start working - a guard, let everyone you meet with a "paw" ... no-oh, I don't even want to remember ...
          TaPOiCH - they collapsed back in the 90s and by the 2000s there was simply nothing to restore besides the territory of the plant and the airfield (On the new CNC machines - they processed marble, for the local nouveau riche - as you know, after that you can’t catch air microns, but people the worker went to Russia en masse).
          The tractor factory made tractors - but these tractors immediately got up at farms in the far corner, due to inoperability and professional unsuitability.
          Almalyk and Navoi - I won’t say anything about it, I visited large-scale factories at these enterprises, but there is nothing to tell on the topic, except at the end of the 90s in Almalyk, houses (multi-storey) at the level of the third floor of the communication looped around, since no one lived above , the city turned into a ghost, an unwanted element was sent from Tashkent to cities like Almalyk. Then the truth was said that the city was restored (true or not - I do not know)
          Everything...
          1. UzRus
            UzRus 28 March 2016 15: 55
            0
            About the Russian mobile operator was well known. - Are you talking about MTS or something? Yes, in this case, the MTS employees themselves were to blame. Firstly, because they gave a bribe to Gula Karimova for work in Uzbekistan. Secondly, they turned a blind eye to how top managers of local nationality acted here, and the same general director of MTS-Uzbekistan Bekzod Akhmedov. They knew what he was doing.
            1. gray smeet
              gray smeet 28 March 2016 16: 49
              +2
              Quote: UzRus
              Firstly, because they gave a bribe to Gula Karimova for work in Uzbekistan. Secondly, they turned a blind eye to how top managers of local nationality acted here, and the same general director of MTS-Uzbekistan Bekzod Akhmedov. They knew what he was doing.


              I wrote - without a bribe in Uzbekistan, foreign companies will simply not be allowed to work - my own experience would say the same, you confirm this with Gulya Karimova !!! And how the locals operated - naturally they were entrusted with the management, and they operated! - again, the question is not for Russian business, yes, I know all the reservations of local plankton - "money is needed to come to an agreement with state authorities (otherwise, no matter how)" - and money is trite to saw - Everyone knows this in Uzbekistan.

              If only everything has changed in the last five years? And they start taking bribes at the airport, and they end up when they leave. About customs, the Ministry of Industry and Economy, and so on - nothing to say. Any paper - give money to the petitioner on the paw, while he correctly draw up the paper and pay the fee. Ugh, as I recall these offices, before the Tashnothiks, I pledged not to work with Uzbekistan anymore.
              1. UzRus
                UzRus 28 March 2016 17: 04
                +1
                Yes, everything remains the same. Even worse.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 28 March 2016 09: 33
      -14%
      Article stating a fact. But not everything is measured by money. And not the time to scatter them. There are details about which we do not know.
      1. sergeybulkin
        sergeybulkin 28 March 2016 10: 02
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        Article stating a fact. But not everything is measured by money. And not the time to scatter them. There are details about which we do not know.

        And this is not necessary - "not everything is measured by money." In the modern world, everything is measured by money, there is no money - lie down and die - everything is kirdyk. And with states it is even worse.
        Of course, no one will reveal to us who and how many received kickbacks from those loans. Surely this is all classified.
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 28 March 2016 11: 02
          -5
          Nobody invited the Uzbeks to the whitewash and they didn’t leave us themselves. Discussing government loans from the perspective of a cook is at least not worthy of a forum. Can you go to the advisers to our president? laughing
          Why doesn’t anyone say why the trio of Slavic states simply threw all of Central Asia, violating the agreement on the creation of the USSR? Isn’t all of these penalty graters from there? Or do we have few problems with Ukraine and the Baltic states?
          1. UzRus
            UzRus 28 March 2016 15: 57
            +5
            We (UzSSR) were categorically against the collapse of the USSR.
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 28 March 2016 16: 53
              +4
              Uzbekistan and its population unequivocally supported the preservation of the USSR

              It’s a pity that they are not joining the CSTO with us right now. KZ and Uzbekistan (plus Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan are already in the Collective Security Treaty Organization) together sufficient strength. so that Russia completely forgets about spending on defense in the south (for now, of course, China is friends)
              1. UzRus
                UzRus 28 March 2016 17: 09
                +1
                Why, damn it, we don’t get glued with the Kyrgyz. Probably, the insult remained for 2010, when in the summer of our Uzbeks in the south of Kyrgyzstan they shot and cut ...
          2. cast iron
            cast iron 28 March 2016 16: 43
            +2
            Don't "la-la". They threw everything together. During the 70s and 80s of the so-called national substitution policy in the national republics, a new generation of local national "elite" has grown up, which happily agreed with Gorbachev to break up the country into pieces on the sidelines away from the people's eyes.
            1. UzRus
              UzRus 28 March 2016 17: 06
              +2
              People were categorically against it. I can’t say anything for the elites, maybe they agreed with Pyatnisty about something.
              1. Roman 11
                Roman 11 28 March 2016 21: 39
                0
                Quote: UzRus
                I can’t say anything for the elites, maybe they agreed with Pyatnisty about something.

                100 PUDS - he drove to John Davidson’s grandson in May 92, half a year after the disappearance of the Union ....... Rockefellers squeezed his secretly through this Stavropol agronomist.

                Since then, a lot has passed, and old-timers still say that then life was much better - you could work guaranteed, now your health is a little shaky, you’ve run for years and that's all - who needs it? Even the guard will see ....... janitors except that!
          3. Villon
            Villon 29 March 2016 01: 15
            +2
            Come to your senses. Which three of the Slavic states that threw Central Asia are you talking about? The Bialowieza agreements were signed by accomplices, who had to be judged as state criminals, contradicted the constitution and had nothing to do with the will of the Slavic states.
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      3. creak
        creak 28 March 2016 10: 13
        +16
        Quote: siberalt
        But not everything is measured by money

        You are telling this to our pensioners, who transferred the second part of the indexation of pensions to the 17th year, explain that happiness is not in money ..
        They will understand and support ... fellow
        1. siberalt
          siberalt 28 March 2016 11: 20
          +1
          I’m a quarter-century pensioner, so what? The Russian world therefore took place because we invested in the development of our neighbors. This is the whole uniqueness of Russia. Were it not for this, there would be no Russian empire, USSR and modern Russia. The author's article is a discussion on the topic. BUT the main thing in it is the final line. Or do you also not read the rest of the article? It is time to learn how to read our regular author Volodin. He always has an intrigue, but also conclusions.
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          2. creak
            creak 28 March 2016 13: 25
            +10
            Quote: siberalt
            Or do you also not read the rest of the article? It’s time to already learn to read our regular author Volodin


            I learned to read long ago, education is appropriate, as well as life experience. Therefore, I prefer to live my own mind, draw my own conclusions and not think in slogans - I have heard enough of them in my life ...
            Quote: siberalt
            The Russian world therefore took place because we invested in the development of our neighbors. This is the whole uniqueness of Russia.

            Everything is just like the poet's: "He left the hut, went to fight, so that the land to the peasants in Grenada was given ..."
            I believe that it is high time to think not about the peasants of the Grenadines, about their own and stop making others happy at the expense of the Bryansk peasant ...
            I, like my colleagues, also had to fulfill the so-called international duty in due time - and what is the uniqueness of Russia in that it owes everything and who forgives it - forgives everyone ...?
            And in order for the Russian world to take place, including Russia, it is finally necessary to provide its citizens with a decent life - they have long earned the right to do so ...
            It is high time...
          3. Talgat
            Talgat 28 March 2016 16: 54
            -3
            Quote: siberalt
            The Russian world therefore took place because we invested in the development of our neighbors. This is the whole uniqueness of Russia. Were it not for this, there would be no Russian empire, USSR and modern Russia.


            Dear Sibiralt! ++++
          4. theth
            theth 28 March 2016 20: 29
            +3
            But I took place because I invested not in neighbors, but in myself and my family. What the hell are there, I don’t rest against the world in a male penis
          5. Villon
            Villon 29 March 2016 01: 36
            +3
            Quote: siberalt
            The Russian world therefore took place because we invested in the development of our neighbors. This is the whole uniqueness of Russia. Were it not for this, there would be no Russian empire, USSR and modern Russia.

            Where did you get this from? And what is the "Russian world"? You would explain, otherwise it looks like some kind of feverish delirium. If we use the term "Russian world", then it is much more appropriate to say that the "Russian world" arose as a union of equal peoples. Understand, equals, not that Russia works for everyone, and everything rests only on the fact that everyone lives at the expense of Russia. Maybe you really want it to be so, but it is not.
        2. asiat_61
          asiat_61 28 March 2016 14: 41
          +1
          They will still scream Hurray, and the Kemelyuhs will throw them up in joy.
      4. Talgat
        Talgat 28 March 2016 16: 51
        -3
        Quote: siberalt
        Article stating a fact. But not everything is measured by money. And not the time to scatter them. There are details about which we do not know.


        I agree with you Sibiralt!
      5. Villon
        Villon 29 March 2016 01: 08
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Article stating a fact. But not everything is measured by money. And not the time to scatter them. There are details about which we do not know.

        It is right that not everything is measured in money. But who prevented the achievement of goals that are not measured by money, while maintaining debt? Nobody forgives us debts.
    4. Achilles
      Achilles 28 March 2016 09: 42
      +11
      If the Uzbeks just give a hint about the claim of Diamond debt, then we need to remember that the USSR also had not a small debt and Russia paid it, and not the Soviet republics.
    5. max702
      max702 28 March 2016 10: 51
      +7
      Uzbekistan is by no means a poor state .. It is enough to look at Wikipedia .. So the Uzbeks have something to repay debts, in addition there is such a lever as the commercial market business in Russia, it also includes fruits and vegetables on an industrial scale, as well as guest workers in hundreds of thousands. One solution and all of Uzbekistan will sit in a puddle (in principle, ruins also apply). We seem to be stepping on the old rake again feeding the outskirts of Russia .. They will tell me that this is geopolitics, and we do not need to pay for loyalty and an extra conflict at our borders .. It’s easier and cheaper to buy, to fill in the problem .. Well, I’ll tell you frankly perhaps.. We do not know the numbers. It is possible to really buy loyalty cheaper, only we all know that this loyalty does not cost anything. Let's look at our "partners" how they ensure the loyalty of the elites, but they simply keep all the values ​​stolen by honest labor at home .. Real estate, accounts, business, relatives are all in the countries of "partners" .. Unfortunately, we cannot but keep we have these elites almost nothing, and we need to work in this direction, but it’s very difficult (they don’t keep anything here), but it will not be superfluous to remind about the "ice ax" for every betrayer .. It's okay that this type is not legal everything this is sheer nonsense today! International law now is not even a prostitute, but a woman for "relaxation" from Japanese field brothels in Korea. They will start to respect more, although they will screech ..
    6. Shpagolom
      Shpagolom 28 March 2016 12: 50
      -1
      ... prove that YOU are Uzbek, Cuban or Libyan and you will be forgiven, and so pull the "strap" and do not moan!
  2. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 March 2016 08: 00
    +9
    The Uzbek "partners" in 1997 announced that they would not repay anything, because "Russia itself owes Uzbekistan more."

    We are, we will forgive.
    But always the return of borrowed money is for some reason fraught with their non-return. And they find a reason for this. And when they occupied, it was not only to Uzbekistan, they all promised to pay off their debts. Such here, a rake with us, we always stumble upon them.
    1. Roman 11
      Roman 11 28 March 2016 21: 52
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      We are, we will forgive.

      In kind, not a closed navel of the earth.
  3. Alex66
    Alex66 28 March 2016 08: 01
    +11
    The goal of the government is to write off debts, one to provoke indignation of its people, the commission by the people of unreasoned actions resulting in the collapse of Russia. Therefore, the government should resign and judge at least for negligence.
    1. ism_ek
      ism_ek 28 March 2016 12: 14
      +1
      Debts to other countries are written off for kickbacks. Ten years ago, they tried to cover up this scheme. They found $ 1 million under the mattress of Kudrin's deputy. This official still works in the Ministry of Finance. Kudrin, without working anywhere, exists comfortably ...
  4. Fisman
    Fisman 28 March 2016 08: 02
    +12
    Unfortunately, in order to be friends with other countries, Russia gives money, and the USA lends!
  5. Aleksander
    Aleksander 28 March 2016 08: 03
    +6
    Generally, I want to believethat there is at least some hint of pragmatism on the part of Russia in writing off the debt to Uzbekistan and its readiness to lend again to this state.


    Do not believe that later with 100% probability not to be disappointed ....!
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 28 March 2016 14: 52
      +4
      He served with Uzbeks and Tajiks. I still don’t understand who sent them to aviation. But since then, I just don’t cut them all, to say the least.
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 28 March 2016 18: 06
        +4
        Quote: asiat_61
        He served with Uzbeks and Tajiks. I still do not understand who sent them to the aircraft.

        Similarly. Air Force Amur region 85-87 year. In about 50 \ 50. In the regiment under 80% of Central Asia.
  6. Darkness
    Darkness 28 March 2016 08: 05
    +25
    What an idiotic trait - to forgive everyone?
    Everyone except their own people.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 28 March 2016 08: 29
      +15
      Why shouldn't the "tsar" give out the sovereign's good to the left and to the right ?!
      He is not giving away his "hard earned slave labor at the presidential gallery"!
      Behind his dough, "the sun is like" looks intently - at least one kopeck will go away - why then Rotenbergs and Timchenko all sorts are needed !!!
      And "the sovereign's money" is nobody's - they are the people! Whoever I want to and will give it "in debt" - our rulers are sooooo generous! Anyone and anything - if only not their commoners got it !!!
      God forbid to get used to living normally, what then to do with these people ??
      And suddenly the rights will begin to swing, they say we are not "the mob powerless and silent" - WE ARE CITIZENS of the Russian Federation !!!
      And it is necessary for our king with the boyars?!?!
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 09: 00
        +20
        Collection dogs exist only for their own people.
        And for the Uzbek Gaster, please, our hospitals, schools are all tax-free and, as the crown of migration policy, the citizenship of the Russian Federation.
        I'll say it mildly, it's all wrong am
        1. hamadryad
          hamadryad 28 March 2016 09: 14
          +12
          very correct! The Russophobe multi-mover is pursuing a policy of soft genocide against the Russian people. Back in the 80s, Thatcher voiced the goal of the world behind the scenes - to leave 15 million Russians to service the "pipe." And the CIA agent "Rat" (Rat) performs that , for which he was put on his post. Minus, ban, but the truth is.
      2. THE_SEAL
        THE_SEAL 29 March 2016 16: 51
        +1
        I think the Uzbeks can’t forgive anything. Putin is giving away too much for the sake of imaginary geopolitics. It is time to turn our faces to our own people.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 28 March 2016 08: 08
    +14
    Uzbekistan will not be grateful to write off the debt ..
  8. nemec55
    nemec55 28 March 2016 08: 12
    +17
    And to us ??? And everything is simple for us. "When I came to the State Property Committee and tried to change the privatization strategy in the interests of the country's population, Chubais told me in plain text:" What are you worried about these people? Well, thirty million will die out. They did not fit into the market. Do not think about it - new ones will grow. ”
    But now they woke up before the autumn elections create the appearance of caring for the people. Although only the naive D.rak does not understand that they simply share among themselves (parties) places in the State Duma without the participation of the people.
    There are no new adequate ones. And all the care of fat bellies is only about their wallet
    1. Dimy4
      Dimy4 28 March 2016 12: 59
      0
      Who, where and how much they can share ... share.
  9. 31rus2
    31rus2 28 March 2016 08: 12
    +6
    Dear, the mechanism of "assistance" to countries from the Russian side does not exist at all, this is precisely where one should learn from both the West and the United States, learn something, add something, for example, there is nothing to repay a debt, which means Russia should receive preferential access to resources , bases, information, only this should be concluded in contracts, then there will be "control" and profit. It is clear that the weak need to be helped so that later they do not have any caliphate at their side, but this must be done wisely and profitably, I agree with the opinion it is time to bring certain persons to justice, including the president
  10. guzik007
    guzik007 28 March 2016 08: 15
    +8
    This generous uncle Vova ...
  11. Flinky
    Flinky 28 March 2016 08: 16
    0
    If the debt was written off, it means that they negotiated something. It’s not too difficult to stick them to the wall :)
  12. rustyle_nvrsk
    rustyle_nvrsk 28 March 2016 08: 19
    +3
    For the beautiful daughter of the great Uzbek people, Gulchekhra Bobakulova can pay an extra 1,5 lard from above.
  13. Humpty
    Humpty 28 March 2016 08: 20
    +8
    "Uzbek option". For those who are familiar with the expression, they will understand me. Speaking in plain language, people try to avoid cases where the Uzbek side has to pay something.
    The typical attitude to money and things - mine, this is mine, yours temporarily in my hands - is mine too. Here Karimov did not grow up intellectually from the village-tandoor Uzbek. In any case, I do not think this gesture of the Russian side is well thought out.
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 28 March 2016 17: 10
      +1
      Yes, there is such an option. We ourselves in the country suffer greatly from it.
  14. Ayujak
    Ayujak 28 March 2016 08: 21
    +1
    There are bearded anecdotes of Soviet times -
    "When the Uzbek was born, the Jew wept."
    Or
    "Before his death, Moishe calls the lawyer Abraham, and says - sign me up as Uzbek. Abraham asks in surprise why. Moishe says that there should be one less Uzbek."

    No offense to Jews and Uzbeks. smile
    1. hamadryad
      hamadryad 28 March 2016 09: 18
      +1
      such jokes are composed by Tatars, Ukrainians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis and countless more peoples.
    2. indulf
      indulf 28 March 2016 13: 55
      0
      In the very first version of this joke that I heard was like this. When a crest was born, a Jew cried. And further. Where a crest passed, there is nothing for a Jew to do.
  15. Zapp brannigan
    Zapp brannigan 28 March 2016 08: 22
    0
    turn the money back!
  16. zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 28 March 2016 08: 25
    +7
    It’s amazing, but at a time when “saving” Gaidar reforms were blooming, and when the majority of the population of Russia barely made ends meet, statesmen managed to lend to foreign countries. Where this money went is a mystery ...

    It’s not at all a mystery, for these stolen money people made deposits in Western banks, acquired real estate in Europe and the United States. From the same opera, a recent increase in excise taxes on fuels and lubricants and the investment of “extra” budget funds in American securities.
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 March 2016 08: 26
    +7
    In-one, one to one correlates with the previous comments about the brothers, only there were the defendants Bulgarians. They are all brothers when you give them, when you ask them, and not even money, but simply support at the international level, then you don’t understand mine. In this regard, we must take an example from the striped.
  18. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 28 March 2016 08: 28
    +10
    Forgive? And the people of Russia, who earned this money, gentlemen, you asked? Geopolitics say yes ... well ... such geopolitics. All these kings understand only power.
    Question to the president, or as some call V.V. Putin to the sovereign: when will you restore order in the Kremlin’s gadyushnik? Times have changed ... women are giving birth to new ones ... they are not rolling, they need to value and preserve their people.
    They shouted that without Russia they would be happy, so let them rejoice at the doorstep, rather than sitting on their necks. We and our parasites have enough.
    1. Vitwin
      Vitwin 28 March 2016 08: 31
      +9
      Quote: Fotoceva62
      Forgive?

      I was afraid for the rating - a picture with Medvedev? For rent there is another author))
      1. Fotoceva62
        Fotoceva62 28 March 2016 09: 19
        +1
        For the rating, no was not afraid. It’s just that the picture is good and about the VADER not just wrote.
    2. Muvka
      Muvka 28 March 2016 09: 29
      +2
      So, if this picture makes sense, we have nothing to make nuclear weapons from? And tell me please, where do they get the nuclear stuffing for Clubs, Yars, Frontiers, Sarmat, X-102 and Caliber? Probably out of thin air?
      1. Vitwin
        Vitwin 28 March 2016 09: 50
        0
        Quote: Muvka
        Am I Mace, Yars, Boundary, Sarmat, X-102 and Caliber? Probably out of thin air?

        Alterations in a new way are often unsuccessful, of the Soviet heritage, but it is not endless and is already running out.
        So far, the defense industry has not given birth to anything new.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 March 2016 10: 27
          0
          In Russia, uranium is enriched in Dubna, Arzamas, and in factories producing TVELs from the Soviet backlogs they don’t do anything, since warheads and charges have the ability to degrade.
        2. Muvka
          Muvka 28 March 2016 11: 30
          +3
          What does the alteration have to do with it? The man above wrote that we have nothing to make nuclear charges from. And what do you think is new? And in the USSR, nothing new was invented from the time of tsarist Russia. After all, airplanes also flew the same system roughly. And nuclear energy is also nothing new in your opinion, because there is only one sense - the generation of electricity. And this was known to hydroelectric power stations and other power plants for a long time. Annoying such conclusions ...
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 28 March 2016 21: 13
            +2
            Quote: Ros 56
            Actually from the mines, and you?

            good good good laughing Killed ...
      2. Ros 56
        Ros 56 28 March 2016 20: 49
        +2
        Actually from the mines, and you?
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 March 2016 10: 19
      -5
      We use uranium in gas centrifuges to enrich and obtain weapons-grade plutonium.
      1. hamadryad
        hamadryad 28 March 2016 12: 20
        -1
        crap! This is something breakthrough! Don’t voice this technology in more detail? Maybe something else is just as amazing in zashashnik?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 28 March 2016 14: 50
          +1
          More precisely, enriched uranium is obtained in gas centrifuges, and plutonium 239 is obtained from enriched uranium or from neptunium
  19. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 28 March 2016 08: 29
    -3
    Apparently, maintaining such an ally on its border is more profitable than getting an enemy in his face ...
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 28 March 2016 09: 03
      +11
      This is not an ally.
      1. creak
        creak 28 March 2016 09: 57
        +8
        Quote: Darkness
        Apparently it’s more profitable to keep such an ally on its border


        Apparently it's time to take off the pink glasses and stop indulging in illusions ...
        From Karimov, an ally as a bullet from shit - Uzbekistan now does not even participate in the activities of the CSTO, citing the fact that membership in this organization is contrary to the interests of the country ...
        In which case, he will again turn his ass to us, as it was already ....
      2. asiat_61
        asiat_61 29 March 2016 05: 02
        0
        ... and not a friend, and not an enemy, but so ... Vysotsky. V.S.
  20. Humpty
    Humpty 28 March 2016 08: 31
    +2
    Quote: parusnik
    Uzbekistan will not be grateful to write off the debt ..

    They showed themselves in all their glory back in the early 80s. Rumors from the river (which by the way were true) about their officers could not be hushed up. How many of them were then put to the wall and transplanted, there are no exact figures in open sources yet.
  21. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 March 2016 08: 31
    +6
    amounted to almost 0,9 billion dollars

    Almost a billion goat's tail. Obviously we live very curly. The debts have been forgiven, now you can expect a pod from Uzbekistan. Friendship in Central Asia can be bought for a while. as soon as the Americans beckon with big money, they will immediately forget about Russia until the next "black day".
    “Russia itself owes Uzbekistan more”

    This is a response to the withdrawal of this country after 1922 from feudalism to socialism. Another was not worth the wait in the 90s.
  22. Siberia
    Siberia 28 March 2016 08: 32
    +11
    It's hard for me to understand how it is possible to lend to other states when we ourselves are at a broken trough ... Yes, we have so many problems inside with our own infrastructure (gasification, repair of roads, kindergartens, schools, laying of engineering communications ...) that are urgent and every year they require financing, and we borrow money to someone else, so they still do not want to return to us, either Ukraine or Kazakhstan! Moscow is not Russia - go and see how citizens "live" there.

    Ps: do you know what is the logic of power in the city in which I live? When asked why it took so long to repair the roads from the city to the gardens (only in late autumn they put "patches" on the road, which could be called an expensive road). Say, why make repairs, spend budget money, because next year everything will be the same ...
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 28 March 2016 08: 39
      0
      Quote: Siberia
      when we ourselves are at a trough ..


      Are you talking about someone with a few income million a day, this is what kind of trough should you have? Our problems do not concern them, just yesterday M. Leontiev, when asked to cut the income of Rosneft's top managers, said that there was no reason for this. stop
    2. Yerlan
      Yerlan 28 March 2016 12: 21
      +2
      In vain did you record Kazakhstan as an unreliable debtor. This is not true.
      1. Shpagolom
        Shpagolom 28 March 2016 16: 45
        0
        .... Forgive them Erlan!))
  23. Bassoon
    Bassoon 28 March 2016 08: 34
    +1
    In vain. Very vain.
  24. evil partisan
    evil partisan 28 March 2016 08: 34
    -6
    I want to believe that there is at least some hint of pragmatism on the part of Russia in writing off the debt to Uzbekistan and its readiness to lend again to this state.

    In your words, Uv. Alexey, doubts are slipping in the ability of our President to keep under proper control the so-called "elite" of the former USSR sad
    I fixed it ... winked
    But seriously, in matters of foreign policy, our President can be trusted 100%. Surely it’s not just that Uzbekistan wrote off the debt. Will have to answer with something. And what - we will soon find out ...
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 28 March 2016 08: 43
      +6
      What about the "elite" in the Ruin, the Baltic States and Tajikistan?
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 28 March 2016 18: 30
      +3
      The president can be trusted 100%.


      od 2000. Write-off of the 11 billionth (in dollar equivalent) debt to Vietnam.
      Year 2003. Write-off of Iraqi debt in the amount of 12 billion dollars.
      Year 2007. Russia is writing off 4,7 billion debt to Algeria in exchange for assurances from the Algerian authorities that new contracts were signed with Russia in the military-industrial sphere.
      Year 2007. Mongolia debited debt in 11,1 billion dollars.
      Year 2007. Russia forgives Afghanistan the same (about 11 billion dollars) amount of debt.
      Year 2008. Russia, in exchange for lucrative contracts, is writing off 4,6 billions of dollars of debt to Libya. Contracts then had to be quickly curtailed due to known events.
      Year 2010. Mongolia again. Write-off of Russian (non-Soviet) debt in the amount of 168 millions (not billions) of dollars.
      Year 2012. The Russian Federation is writing off a number of African countries debt of about 20 billion dollars.
      Year 2012. Written off 11-billionth (some kind of magic number of debt) DPRK.
      Year 2012. Debt of Kyrgyzstan in the amount of about 0,5 billion was written off.
      Year 2013. The Cuban debt is being restructured, which, according to some sources, amounts to about 30 billion dollars.
      If summing up to identify the total debt cancellation by Russia, that’s 165 billion dollars
      Russia and Cuba signed an agreement under which a debt of $ 29 billion is written off to Liberty Island

      Isn't it a bit too much in one snout?
    3. Villon
      Villon 29 March 2016 02: 01
      +1
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Surely it’s not just that Uzbekistan wrote off the debt. Will have to answer with something. And what - we will soon find out ...

      Or maybe we don’t know, it will pass us by.
  25. Siberia
    Siberia 28 March 2016 08: 43
    +6
    Quote: Ros 56
    Quote: Siberia
    when we ourselves are at a trough ..


    Are you talking about someone with a few income million a day, What kind of trough should you have? stop

    I’m talking about my own country and about the life of the common people ... And that the authorities do nothing (at least if they do, then imperceptibly) to improve the life of the latter.
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 28 March 2016 08: 43
    +1
    This territory is too important for us, many of our facilities on its territory.
    And they use it, issuing bad loans from us and so on.
    Although the fact that they were not allowed into our Diamond Fund is worth a lot.
  27. kvampaku
    kvampaku 28 March 2016 08: 44
    +10
    Quote: Pvi1206
    Apparently, maintaining such an ally on its border is more profitable than getting an enemy in his face ...

    Unfortunately, this is not an ally - for example, a miserable jackal who, at the first danger, will transfer to the camp of the enemy and will bark at Russia loudest than anyone else ...
    Should they be supported? ...
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 28 March 2016 09: 02
      +8
      The East understands only one way of obedience - fear.
  28. baudolino
    baudolino 28 March 2016 08: 48
    +5
    When the grandfathers of the Karimov-Nazarbayevs begin to die, then Russia may have real problems.
  29. afrikanez
    afrikanez 28 March 2016 08: 49
    +4
    Writing off debts to other states has become a "visiting card" of Russia! Our financiers will probably never learn to work, and besides, they work not with their own money, but with the state. And they do not seem to feel sorry for their own.
    1. atakan
      atakan 28 March 2016 14: 24
      +2
      Quote: afrikanez
      And not his own, it seems not at all sorry.

      That which is not easy to steal and share is alien and uninteresting to them. The concept is this: everything for sale (resources), money for the cordon, and the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank generally have to withdraw everything and that would be less invested in the Russian economy. This is still a soft acupuncture administration.
      While bearable.
  30. cergey51046
    cergey51046 28 March 2016 08: 50
    +8
    Have you forgotten how the Russians cut the volume? These are our enemies, like the Turks.
    1. Darkness
      Darkness 28 March 2016 09: 00
      +12
      But Russians were not only slaughtered there.
      It was scary in Tajikistan, only Chechnya surpassed him.
      But again - peace, friendship, chewing gum.
      Nothing personal just business.
      1. Chisayna
        Chisayna 28 March 2016 18: 08
        +2
        In Tajikistan, they cut everyone and the Tajiks got no less.
  31. Darkness
    Darkness 28 March 2016 08: 59
    +4
    It was enough to ban money transfers from Russia to Uzbekistan.
    Would repay ALL debts, and even with interest.
  32. Villiam wolf
    Villiam wolf 28 March 2016 09: 00
    +7
    C .... ki !!! Our parliamentarians and leaders !!! We forgive the debts of the reptiles who betrayed us in the 91st year, but to their own citizens nor any support !!! Only We are driven into debt and poverty even more !!! Just C ... ki !!! am am am
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 28 March 2016 18: 32
      +2
      Quote: Villiam Wolf
      C .... ki !!! Our parliamentarians and leaders !!!

      Have you all been listed? Have you forgotten anyone?
  33. sa-ag
    sa-ag 28 March 2016 09: 00
    +3
    And here is the main Uzbek of the Russian Federation Alisher Usmanov not involved in any side?
  34. tor978
    tor978 28 March 2016 09: 05
    +13
    Well, here is your favorite GDP once again forgave the debt, almost a billion of Baku money. It seems to me it is beneficial for someone to forgive debts. Such a mess reigns in the country (they let out malicious embezzlers, issue anti-people’s laws, throw money away - rename the police) the feeling that the more you do it (near the lard) the less they will give you, or even they will give some kind of job. With the help of news, people are distracted from internal problems, as in Ukraine it is direct. That is, the news shows Syria, Ukraine, how our country sends help to them, and the government does not care about their own people.
  35. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 28 March 2016 09: 20
    +4
    "Forgiven debts" must be collected from those who decide to write off them.
    Let them pay from their own pockets, and not from the pockets of Russian citizens.
    I pay taxes to my state and not to another.
  36. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 28 March 2016 09: 21
    +3
    It is already fashionable to put it - not to repay the debts of Russia.
  37. V.ic
    V.ic 28 March 2016 09: 56
    +5
    I heard about Yakut diamonds. Kimberlite rocks in Yakutia are available. I haven’t heard about the presence of kimberlite pipes in non-upstream Uzbekistan.
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 28 March 2016 14: 32
      0
      Quote: V.ic
      in nearby Uzbekistan

      Well, they threw everything right under the throat ... it will be necessary to "whom" will be given anyway ... it will be necessary to "whom" they will again raise the "topic" ... and again there will be no return ... and there will always be someone who will walk on a leash. .. and who is barking
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 28 March 2016 19: 25
        +1
        Quote: Amirbek
        and there is always someone who will walk on a leash ... and who will bark

        ... so spill about the diamond "mines of King Solomon" in Uzbekistan.
  38. hamadryad
    hamadryad 28 March 2016 10: 03
    +3
    Quote: anodonta
    Not open, but decided! In fact, we are talking about a new non-repayable loan from Russia to Uzbekistan. Because if Russia does not give such a loan, they will give Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and others, with all the ensuing consequences. Everything has its own price, and the Kremlin understands this well.

    Yes, yes, they’re right in the queue to give out loans! What are you saying! Russia has a very effective lever against all kinds of unfriendly acts of supposedly fraternal republics - migrant workers. The smallest tough action against them - and Uzbekbashi will get huge problems, take it with your bare hands and make any demands. But, apparently, Putin’s government is not looking for easy ways, many-way camps are thriving here, and even at the expense of his robbed people ... Lepota!
  39. andrey-ivanov
    andrey-ivanov 28 March 2016 10: 19
    +8
    As the Union debts to pay, we did not take, let Russia, as the legal successor of the USSR pays. And how to divide the Diamond Fund - give us our share. And their share in sort..re lies. It would be possible, of course, to write off the debts, but all the citizens of "fraternal" Uzbekistan, working on the territory of Russia, should be imposed a heavy duty on debt reimbursement. I think that the change of the regime in Uzbekistan would have taken place instantly, or money for a refund would have been immediately found.
  40. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 28 March 2016 10: 22
    -4
    Something on the site a lot of the same type of comments appears, created, according to my (maybe erroneous) sensations, in the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice-Minstets.
    1. theth
      theth 28 March 2016 18: 15
      0
      No, it's the State Department, 55 column bully
  41. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 28 March 2016 10: 43
    +8
    It's a heavy topic. Personally, my opinion is against write-off. In any form of write-off. As practice shows, only strength and cruelty are respected, not kindness. Unfortunately, this is a fact. How many of these "friends" do not kiss your ass everywhere. I absolutely do not understand why we we don’t change the regimes of our neighbors and we don’t put pro-Russian leaders at the head? Why are anti-Russian leaders not “bracketed”? By the way, the aforementioned issue with migrants, the lever is quite effective in my opinion. And the likelihood that the expelled guest workers will become mujahideen certainly exists. But, as practice shows, only big bombs drive all those who disagree to the negotiating table. The time to talk about the past common Union has passed. a new generation on both sides of the border is alien to each other. During the USSR, the Russians invested a lot of effort and money in these sands, pulling these peoples out of feudalism ... Well, enough, we have already received gratitude. Thanks from all of Central Asia, at the beginning of 90 -x.
    And yet, what a thought. And unless the whole people should decide on the write-off of billions in a referendum, and the fact that it really begins to resemble a monarchy.
    Debts on up to take at least bananas at least sand. Up to a penny. Or not to lend.
    1. hamadryad
      hamadryad 28 March 2016 12: 40
      +3
      In any case, why write off ??? Let them hang on them, would take at least a little, even if children and grandchildren would get something, at least a penny, but why forgive? There are no countries where there is nothing to take. , the coastal shelf, concessions for mining, it’s even simple to open a sales market. Previously, bloody wars were waged for such nishtyaks, and our good government gives people’s money.
  42. Koteg
    Koteg 28 March 2016 10: 59
    +1
    the government of the Russian Federation is * Andon and thieves! It’s no better than the Ukrop Yatsenyuk and for example! These have written off the debts of the Uzbekists to AGAIN WASTE MONEY FOR MONEY FROM THE PEOPLE OF RUSSIA AND RECEIVE MONEY FROM THIS SMOKED! Who still does not understand this?
  43. Penzioner
    Penzioner 28 March 2016 11: 00
    +6
    Hey, Lawmakers, and forgive all my citizens for mortgages at least 10%! You look and the people get a little better and say that not all there are thieves. Although I probably didn’t think about it, the people are normal, but there are thieves ALL angry
    1. indulf
      indulf 28 March 2016 14: 08
      +2
      The word VOR is too noble an epithet for government and official filth. Since they steal from OUR citizens from the common public, they are rats and place them under the shkonku or in the forest with their greased forehead.
  44. Gardamir
    Gardamir 28 March 2016 11: 09
    +7
    So here it is the genius of foreign policy. Likely in this the HPP consists also.
    And remember the reasons why the Soviet Union collapsed: jeans with sausage, the dominance of the CPSU, privileges and much more. then it seemed to us. what is wrong. But for one reason everyone pretends that they don’t remember, then it was fashionable to blame the Communist Party for containing Africa, Asia and others. But this is a worldwide debt forgiveness, how is it different from that of the Soviet? And if you can’t see the difference .. then why do we need these rulers, annexing Crimea and leasing the entire Far East?
    1. hamadryad
      hamadryad 28 March 2016 12: 27
      +5
      Apparently, this ingenious multi-wayboat of the galley rower, inaccessible to the simple proletariat. Already on several sites, the Kremlin boats paid by the Jewish shekels make trial throws on this topic, where everything comes down to one thing - the West is in shock, Obama is in a stupor, Putin again outplayed everyone and set the Western world on cancer, having forgiven debts to Uzbekistan.Mnogodhodovochka, ept ...
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 28 March 2016 18: 35
      -2
      Quote: Gardamir
      This is a worldwide debt forgiveness, how is it different from that of the Soviet?

      It is no different, it is a continuation of the process that was begun by the Union.

      It is mainly the "Soviet" debts that are being forgiven.

      You didn’t know wink
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 28 March 2016 20: 12
        0
        It is mainly the "Soviet" debts that are being forgiven.
        You are sorry stupid said. The Soviet Union gave a loan, and the current Russian do not want to get back. Everyone can always take sugar in Cuba, and cotton in Uzbekistan.
        Specifically about the Uzbek debt, the current ones have already tried.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 28 March 2016 20: 35
          -1
          Quote: Gardamir
          you are sorry stupid said

          Maybe..

          Quote: Gardamir
          The Soviet Union lent, and the current Russians do not want to get back ... Specifically, about the Uzbek debt, the current ones have tried

          Quote: Article
          mutual financial claims connected with operations of the former USSR, as well as with Russian loansissued to Uzbekistan in 1992-1993.

          Uzbekistan in 1992 and 1993 received the so-called technical loans for the purchase of certain goods

          - that is - not only the "current" tried (see article)
          - A technical loan is a loan for which goods are purchased in the Russian Federation. So? So..

          That is - they gave money - and then they sold something unnecessary for them .. and there is no loan belay

          The claims, by the way, were "mutual", now they are gone .. which is good.

          Quote: FenH
          The government of Uzbekistan recognized only part of the debt in the amount of $ 43,1 million, putting forward counterclaims, in particular, to the stake in the Diamond Fund of the former USSR, which were estimated by the Uzbek side at 1-2 billion US dollars. and For both contracting parties, the signing of the agreement was a difficult compromise, emphasized in the accompanying documents. “For official Tashkent, the concession consists in the actual recognition of obligations on all previously received loans. In addition, after a long period of hesitation, the Uzbek side withdraws claims on the Diamond Fund of the former USSR and the so-called “internal currency debt” of the former USSR. The most important concession of the Russian side is to provide the republic with significant debt relief, which is 95% of the principal

          And what about the "Soviet" debts - the same DPRK, for example, wrote off 10 out of 11 billion greens, which they borrowed from the USSR and refused to give to the RF. The motivation is that "the country from which we borrowed this money no longer exists."

          You didn't know that either? wink
          1. FenH
            FenH 28 March 2016 20: 48
            -1
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            You didn't know that either? wink


            I know this, but I don’t understand why you addressed this question to me? request
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 28 March 2016 21: 02
              -1
              Quote: FenH
              I know this, but I don’t understand why you addressed this question to me?

              Gardamir’s answer, actually .. And the question is to him, respectively.

              You there as a source for quoting hi
              1. FenH
                FenH 28 March 2016 22: 01
                -3
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Quote: FenH
                I know this, but I don’t understand why you addressed this question to me?

                Gardamir’s answer, actually .. And the question is to him, respectively.

                You there as a source for quoting hi

                Got it hi
  45. Trophxnumx
    Trophxnumx 28 March 2016 11: 16
    +3
    Insanity grows stronger ... The fish rots from the head and the country from those who control it.
  46. siberalt
    siberalt 28 March 2016 11: 39
    +2
    Quote: Darkness
    What an idiotic trait - to forgive everyone?
    Everyone except their own people.


    And what is our people to blame for their government forgiving? belay Somehow, it constantly forgives itself of its debts to the people, which is still happening with our deposits.
  47. Kenneth
    Kenneth 28 March 2016 12: 44
    +10
    Raise your hand who thinks that Armenia, Belarus, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Ukraine will repay debts. Forest of hands? Or maybe from one of the above was Russia's support in dealing with South Ossetia (Nicaragua, Venezuela, Nauru, Vanuatu, Tuvalu)
    1. Agent_017
      Agent_017 28 March 2016 18: 46
      +2
      OH, as you definitely noticed !!! And there is! NOBODY WILL PAY OFF DEBTS, only they will suck blood from us until we die, but our blood will not be enough for them .. But what nation will lie after us ?? Slavic and not greedy ??? And who are they ??? Obviously not Ukrainians ... When a crest was born-a Jew cried ..
    2. pooop
      pooop 29 March 2016 16: 23
      0
      for each debt there is a mandatory payment schedule, do you have one? I'm sure not.
    3. pooop
      pooop 29 March 2016 16: 29
      0
      By the way, one of these countries, Russia gave a loan, after which it recognized the independence of South Ossetia, just as corrupt ....
      And yet, for every loan, there is a payment schedule, do you have one? I think no.
  48. pts-m
    pts-m 28 March 2016 12: 46
    +1
    Can Russia hire collectors in the person of a pendostana. Or maybe it’s better to sell debts.
  49. Al1977
    Al1977 28 March 2016 13: 39
    +3
    To the wall of liberals from the government !!!
    1. theth
      theth 28 March 2016 20: 18
      -2
      And Putin to the wall?
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 29 March 2016 13: 53
        0
        Quote: theth
        And Putin to the wall?

        Putin for a new term !! Well done man !!!
      2. Al1977
        Al1977 29 March 2016 13: 53
        0
        Quote: theth
        And Putin to the wall?

        Putin for a new term !! Well done man !!!
  50. red rocket
    red rocket 28 March 2016 14: 18
    +2
    all Russian power, hates his people !!!!
    1. Agent_017
      Agent_017 28 March 2016 18: 56
      +1
      all Russian power, hates his people !!!! But do you even imagine who the people and power are? Power is humanoids, people are Pithecanthropus. I don’t understand the problem between fishes and fishermen .. You try to force the people or ask them to do something for the benefit of themselves - HORNY, or try to force the authorities to do something for the people - HORSE !!! Although there is one joke - the authorities do not need to be asked to do something for themselves ...))