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Poor, poor, poor nato

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Poor, poor, poor nato



Military experts of the North Atlantic Alliance shed crocodile tears in the vest of Western public opinion. The American Analytical Center Atlantic Council (Atlantic Council), associated with NATO, the State Department and US intelligence agencies, recently presented a report actively quoted by the British Financial Times, the BBC radio and television broadcasting corporation, as well as the Baltic editions. Among them is the Russian-language portal Delfi. The meaning of this report is extremely simple - in its current state, the forces of the North Atlantic Alliance are allegedly unable to protect the eastern borders of the EU "in the face of an increasingly aggressive Russia." The reasons for which it was not worth even to doubt are obvious - the “chronic underfunding” of NATO and the “acute shortage” of modern military equipment in the armed forces of the countries of the alliance.

The report, for example, notes that out of 31 Tiger helicopters armed with the Bundeswehr, only 10 are suitable for use, and out of 406 Marder infantry fighting vehicles, only 280 can be used there. Other member countries of the alliance are not enough advanced in changing their defensive positions eastward. Things are especially bad in the UK, the report says. It became a very serious problem for her to deploy a brigade on a state of constant alert, not to mention the division. Last year, in order to provide one of NATO’s exercises in Europe, it had to transfer tanks from the west of Canada, “because the situation with spare parts and supplies fleet in the UK is extremely deplorable "...

And all this against the background of the fact that, according to the report, “according to not the most optimistic calculations, after 10 years of growth in military spending and ambitious, far-reaching reforms of former Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, Russia now has enough conscript soldiers (without taking into account the mobilization reserve ) to support simultaneously three major operations: the attack on the Baltic countries, the fighting in Poland and the blocking of government troops in eastern Ukraine. ”

CHEAPED ZAMORSKAYA INTRIGI

Let us leave behind the attempt of the Atlantic Council to reduce Russian military reforms only to the identity of the former defense minister, as if the current head of the domestic military department, who has been actively working over the past four years to increase the combat readiness of the army and navy, has nothing to do with it. God be with them - cheap overseas schemers. We will not pay attention to the obvious nonsense - as if the number of soldiers on an urgent service determines the potential capabilities of our army (by the way, there are a lot less of them today than contract soldiers - 275 thousand against 320). Including provocative horror stories about our attack on the Baltic States, the battles in Poland and the blocking of government troops in Ukraine. Tired of repeating that our army does not have any such plans and is not expected. But here, as they say, spit in the eyes - all of God's dew.

Only here it is impossible to be surprised that NATO does not have the means to curb “Russian aggression”. You read these moans and wonder: where, one wonders, do 28 taxpayers' money go to Western countries, and this is nothing less than, and almost 750 billion dollars - the cumulative military budget of the NATO member states (10 times more than, for example, military the budget of Russia), if the command of the alliance, as well as the heads of the military departments of the participating countries, are not able to provide their armed forces with the most elementary for these billions? Including spare parts for helicopters and infantry fighting vehicles.

I remember that we, Russian journalists who repeatedly visited the headquarters of the alliance, were regularly told how great the logistics service was for the NATO members. All components for a particular military equipment are listed in special computer files. Warehouses in the same Germany or Belgium store their monthly stock. Should any army send a request to the central office with a request to send an engine of such and such a brand to an armored personnel carrier in service with such and such a brigade in such and such a settlement, after two to three hours (short distances in Europe) the engine will be delivered exactly at the address and is immediately installed on a combat vehicle. All this was served under such a sauce: they say, learn, guys, how to organize the supply and provision of your troops at the modern level. Not like in your army, where for half a year, if not more, coordination and expectations of some missing bolt for tank guns.

We listened and were surprised: yes, this is Europe, NATO! We, sirym and poor, to them, as to heaven. And here it turns out that everything is not so that everything is bad, so bad that there is nowhere else.

LIE - DON'T BAGS

To believe in this is impossible. And I would not have believed it if not for the authors of the report. And among them is the former Secretary General of the Alliance Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, the former deputy commander-in-chief of NATO forces in Europe, English General Richard Schirreff, and the former Italian defense minister and chairman of the NATO Military Committee, Admiral Giampaolo di Paola ... Someone who already needs to know what is going on in their “office” and why they are chronically short of money. Is it really scary to think they steal into NATO? Or maybe his officials spend the money of European and American taxpayers, as they say, not for their intended purpose - not to protect them from the "Russian threat", not to develop, manufacture and purchase the most modern combat equipment and combat support systems, but to some extraneous things? Like the construction in the suburbs of the Belgian capital of a new ultra-modern glass and concrete building of the headquarters of the alliance, very similar to a crab or spider, sucking blood or juice from the Old Continent.

But let's not talk about sad things.

One thing is unclear how this Yaroslavna transatlantic lament from the Atlantic Council’s analytical report on the extremely vulnerable weakness of the North Atlantic Alliance before the “Russian military threat” comes from the statements of the European Command of the Armed Forces of the United States in Europe General Philip Bridlav, which he delivered before the congress of the United States, the full readiness of the forces of the alliance to fight in Europe with Russia and defeat it. There must be one thing: either - or. As they say in our yard, you guys either take off the cross or put on your underpants.

Of course, it is gratifying that former and present NATO leaders praise the combat power of the Russian Armed Forces. True, without them we know that our army and navy represent something. The fact that the United States was forced to sign the Treaty on Measures to Limit and Reduce Strategic Offensive Arms (START-3) with Russia, thus recognizing that the security of our country and the security of the United States are identical, testifies to the real respect for our ability potential adversary unacceptable damage. Yes, and the recent joint statement by Moscow and Washington on the cessation of hostilities in Syria also convincingly proves that the United States was impressed by the actions of our aerospace and naval group in this Arab republic, which helped the Syrian government army to completely free the terrorists banned in Russia by the “Islamic State” and “Dzhebhat an-Nusra”, as well as other militants of the province of Latakia, Aleppo and Homs. And although they do not abandon attempts to replay this situation or use our successes on the Syrian front for their own benefit, the recognition of President Barack Obama about the strength of the “second world army” although in our country is not misleading, but in any case is significant. Especially after he tried to belittle the role of Russia in the modern world, calling it a regional power.

OPEN SECRET

A tangle of blatantly contradictory statements by Western politicians, generals and admirals, where, on the one hand, there is a real assessment of the combat power of the Armed Forces of Russia, on the other, absurd fantasies about their aggressive nature (judged, apparently, by themselves), and third, readiness to fight and defeat our country and - from the fourth - the wailing about the impossibility of doing this, since NATO lacks the strength for this, modern military equipment, and most importantly - financial resources, has long been an open secret and is explained surprisingly simply by the desire to warm the ki or, in other words, to earn a malodorous product - "Russian military threat." Every time when the US begins the discussion of the military budget for the new fiscal year, which, by the way, begins on October 1, in the press, on television, in publications of various think tanks, in the speeches of the defense ministers, NATO Secretary General and other stakeholders and the same theme - give money, more and more money. And the Russians will come, and oh, how bad it will be to all-all!

This moan is heard both in the USA and in Europe. The Welsh NATO Summit 2014 of the year decided to allocate 2% of each member country’s GDP to the overall organization’s budget. Do you think they took everything under the visor and immediately transferred the required amount to the NATO wallet? As if not so. Only two states - Estonia and Greece - made such a contribution. And Athens, apparently, ordered the loan that the EU allocated to them to save the economy of Hellas. Well, a penny from 2% of Estonian GDP, of course, no one in the alliance noticed. But the rest of the country - Lithuania, Latvia, the same Poland and even Germany - hesitated around 1% of GDP. It is reasonable to calculate that the United States will pay for them. Nearly 80% of the NATO budget is American money. Why waste yours if there is a kind Uncle Yankee who will pay for everything if he wants to steer Europe? Very good position.

And therefore, analytical centers, that across the ocean, on this side of the Atlantic, can compose everything they want. Involve any politicians and generals in writing their reports. Though retired, at least acting. They can shed as many crocodile tears as they want - oh, poor, poor, poor NATO! Oh, ё-ё-ё ... not today, tomorrow Russians will attack, but we have nothing to protect orphans - the Baltic countries, poor Poland and the undressed and dispersed government troops of Ukraine ...

How does all this remind me of a funny old Odessa song: “Mom, Mom, what will we do when the cold comes again? You do not have a winter coat. I don't have a winter coat. ”

Amazing Solid people in the West, one might say, the military and political elite, sing it from year to year, like clowns in the circus arena, and do not blush at all. Yes?!

However, real clowns have nothing to do with it. The author did not want to offend them.
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  1. izya top
    izya top 27 March 2016 06: 29
    +6
    also Baltic editions
    in its current state, the forces of the Alliance are supposedly unable to defend the eastern borders of the EU
    and the formidable Baltic tigers immediately opened the mass production of bricks. well, okay, guides will protect
    1. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 27 March 2016 07: 13
      +15
      Nothing stashnago! Fucking with bricks is also a defense industry. Then a wall will be built from them along the border. The ancient ukrov had such plans, however, due to the chain detonation of farts, the production of bricks stopped, only the ditch was dug up. It was also proposed to build a 26m fence from the chain-link to intercept the "Caliber" missile system, but the Onyx anti-missile system did not work - the anti-missile chain-link was pulled onto the Nezalezhnaya naval raft, but the insidious Alsk "Onyx" hit the raft, not the net ...
      1. Veltmajster
        Veltmajster 27 March 2016 10: 39
        +4
        Thank! Neighing from the heart!
        1. Ramzaj99
          Ramzaj99 27 March 2016 10: 54
          +7
          Thank! Neighing from the heart!

          But you still neighing in the subject .......
          The commander-in-chief of NATO in Europe, Philip Breedlove, said that it is necessary to start using U2 “stealth planes” again to spy on the region, including Russia, writes Independent.
          1. krops777
            krops777 27 March 2016 11: 33
            +3
            The commander-in-chief of NATO in Europe, Philip Breedlove, said that it is necessary to start using U2 “stealth planes” again to spy on the region, including Russia, writes Independent.


            Well, let them try, let’s see who first finds whom.
          2. Thronekeeper
            Thronekeeper 27 March 2016 11: 35
            +8
            Yo !!!! Again we are drunken Powers, mistaken for astronauts, to collect on collective farms!
          3. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 27 March 2016 11: 50
            +5
            Quote: Ramzaj99
            Thank! Neighing from the heart!

            But you still neighing in the subject .......
            The commander-in-chief of NATO in Europe, Philip Breedlove, said that it is necessary to start using U2 “stealth planes” again to spy on the region, including Russia, writes Independent.



            Yes ! Apparently he was not informed that they came up with anti-aircraft defense systems.
            1. kotvov
              kotvov 27 March 2016 12: 13
              +3
              Yes ! Apparently he was not informed that they had invented air defense systems. ,,
              yes it’s just to show, wretchedness, naty.a so everything is as usual, give money,
              dill think someone learned.
  2. Goga101
    Goga101 27 March 2016 06: 35
    +10
    Business is business. You cannot create demand, but you can create conditions that create demand. If they give money for these songs, then why not sing them from year to year? hi
    1. Altona
      Altona 27 March 2016 10: 38
      +1
      Quote: Goga101
      Business is business. You cannot create demand, but you can create conditions that create demand. If they give money for these songs, then why not sing them from year to year?

      -------------------
      I would like to ask the question: "Where are you doing such a burst of money if you have mops instead of machine guns, and 2/3 cars without engines?" At the same time, we are told about corruption in our country, when it is up to heaven. In general, the phrase "corruption will destroy this country" is more relevant than ever.
      1. Aqela
        Aqela 27 March 2016 16: 15
        0
        You might think that only in ErEfii they saw the budget!
    2. vlade99
      vlade99 27 March 2016 14: 19
      0
      Quote: Goga101
      If they give money for these songs

      Even we throw up. How many percent of our GDP are at their disposal?
    3. clidon
      clidon 29 March 2016 21: 33
      0
      You write as if it was NATO that recently chopped off a piece of land from a neighboring country, under a plausible pretext.
  3. gla172
    gla172 27 March 2016 06: 47
    +10
    ..... After the end of firing, combat and training cartridges should be given in
    the initial state.
    .... Tanks advance in small groups of two to three people.
    ..... You live like pigs in a den.
    ..... The sine value in wartime can reach four.
    .... The soldier has a head to think, and a brain to think.
    ....Platoon! Become back to each other in a checkerboard pattern diagonally!
  4. Приговор
    Приговор 27 March 2016 07: 03
    +7
    Another "cry of Yaroslavna". Oh, poor-poor NATA ... Ah, give-give money. Ours are resting, that's where they saw, that's how they saw. Large-scale, with a proper scope ...;))))
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 27 March 2016 08: 19
      +4
      Especially touches about a decade of reforms by Stouretkin, "who raised the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation not to an incredible level."
      Quote: Sentence
      Another "cry of Yaroslavna". Oh, poor-poor NATA ... Ah, give-give money. Ours are resting, that's where they saw, that's how they saw. Large-scale, with a proper scope ...;))))
  5. c3r
    c3r 27 March 2016 07: 12
    +7
    For the song "Mom, Mom, what are we going to do ..." I remember from the film paid well. Apparently "Kin-dza-dza" is extremely popular with NATO functionaries. If this goes further, then the color differentiation of the pants is!
    1. Thronekeeper
      Thronekeeper 27 March 2016 07: 18
      +4
      For some reason, this whole saga with "Poor NATO" reminded me of an anecdote from the times of EBN. "A new Russian comes to an old Jew and says:" Daddy, give me money! "
      Although Aunt NATA, Israel, Saudi Arabia, before smearing Sisi-1 Menmaatra Maidan Tahrir from KPVT, this is the republic’s favorite party’s way of transferring money from the taxpayer’s pocket to its own. Royalty free help so free ...
  6. starschina
    starschina 27 March 2016 07: 14
    +1
    See everywhere they steal, not only with us !!
  7. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 27 March 2016 07: 16
    +5
    ... in the speeches of the defense ministers, the NATO Secretary General, and other interested parties, one and the same topic sounds - give money, more and more money. And then the Russians will come, and all-all will be oh how bad!
    It seems to me that it all comes down to one thing. We finance all the military-industrial complex of America. There is not enough bread and butter, you also need to add caviar. Carrying nonsense with a serious face is an art. And there will be enough "noodles" for everyone.
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 March 2016 07: 22
    +3
    This moan is heard both in the USA and in Europe.

    This groan is called a song! To whine and lure another portion of the dough for cutting is a holy cause of the NATOsrovtsev! laughing fellow
  9. Evil 55
    Evil 55 27 March 2016 07: 25
    +1
    Eat, you see, a lot of gentlemen Geyropeytsy..Put Eureka in the pots at night, but you need to study, work and try .. read Lenin, gentlemen, he did not advise bad ...
    1. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 27 March 2016 08: 20
      +9
      And what kind of money to supply the "refugees" with. But they are given benefits in the amount of more than our salaries - while the overwhelming majority of these so-called. Refugees produce absolutely nothing useful for society, does not work anywhere and does not want to work. But in view of the mass of free time, he is engaged in what in his historical homeland they cut their hands (sometimes together with the head) - that is, with robberies, burglaries, and, if necessary, replaces tolerant and universal European men (if such a gender definition is still applicable to these creatures) in such a "difficult matter" as satisfying the sexual needs of European women (sometimes against the wishes of the latter - well, who will ask them!).
      And NATO generals again raised "Yaroslavna's lament" over the shortage and obsolescence of weapons for one reason - some normal general (and not a miracle in uniform) will refuse to increase funding for the armed forces, especially since money can be spent not only on weapons (and do not tell me that cutting the dough is purely our prerogative, Europeans are also not alien to everything "progressive"). Hence the screams about the "aggressiveness of Russia" - moreover, they (generals, admirals and politicians of the West) with this very Russian (almost wrote Soviet - the recipes are used the same) with the military threat intimidated themselves so that soon one can expect another " windows "with screams -" The Russians are coming! "
      But NATO should not be underestimated and I personally am very impressed by the fact that Russia is increasing its military presence in the European part of the country - this is strengthening and re-equipping groups in the Crimea and the Kaliningrad region, and the creation (or rather, reconstruction) of the tank army, and the formation of new divisions at the same time with re-equipment and re-equipment of them with new equipment and weapons. You cannot be weak in a world where wolves rule!
      I have the honor.
    2. olegactor
      olegactor 27 March 2016 11: 19
      +1
      if the pin ... the dosses are scared ... then they respect
      a song for all commandos ... greetings from the marines of the DKBF
      https://youtu.be/HIhpOyS1dQw
  10. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 27 March 2016 07: 35
    +3
    The policy of detente has borne fruit.
    Armed forces on both sides began to degrade.
    But this did not last long by historical standards.
    The next round of the arms race is coming.
  11. rus-5819
    rus-5819 27 March 2016 08: 17
    +4
    Quote: starschina
    ambitious, far-reaching reforms of former defense minister Anatoly Serdyukov


    There is such work: to plunder the motherland! Taburetkin in this dock.
    "Red slippers" sew mittens (I hope), but he hid and does not shine, as if "misleading him" in another article is not renamed
  12. Blondy
    Blondy 27 March 2016 08: 20
    0
    Quote: Evil 55
    Eureka is lowered into the pots at night, but you have to study, work and try .. read Lenin, gentlemen, he did not advise bad ...
    Change Eureka to rubble and you can look in the mirror
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 27 March 2016 12: 18
      0
      Change Eureka into rubble and you can look in the mirror,
      You see, our army is not needed. It is clear that what the army showed in Syria does not suit you. You would have a larger F-35.
  13. Kirill750
    Kirill750 27 March 2016 08: 20
    +2
    yes, "poor" NATA was completely impoverished, but the point is not in the absence of new weapons, but simply the management of this "military" office spent on expensive prostitutes and it can be seen that there are not enough villas and houses, and maybe the children have nothing to pay for their studies, so the children cried
  14. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 27 March 2016 08: 54
    +2
    (Expressions by Breedlove + report by these people (they could have found smarter things)): 2 = NATO combat readiness. No money will help already, the system itself is not viable, you won’t drag the generals from the trough with the delicious grub of the generals. And about the deterrence of the government army of Ukraine - yes, a strong phrase.
  15. dima mzk
    dima mzk 27 March 2016 09: 13
    +4
    Who doesn’t understand? The US needs an international batch, they have a cap of debts there. it is necessary to destabilize, we need a demon representing danger, so at all times Russia was an enemy to all, only in the eyes of neither
  16. Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 27 March 2016 11: 10
    +2
    I see this picture:

    Obama walks along the red carpet with a brush in his hands, Merkel walks behind him with a jar of mascara, on the bent ones, and NATO defense ministers stand along the path with petitions for money for the army ... Obama walks and, from time to time, dipping a brush into mascara, which the "chancellor" gives a warning, carelessly puts crosses on the documents, gifting their vassals, and they bow humbly and mutter thanks in his honor ...
  17. Siberiak
    Siberiak 27 March 2016 11: 15
    0
    The author, do not blaspheme! The "cry of Yaroslavna" allusion is not appropriate here!
  18. NEXUS
    NEXUS 27 March 2016 11: 26
    +2
    Another round of the cut of the world. With this cry, allies, rats and dissenting are identified, as well as an enemy is designated, against which all these contributions to the NATO budget are needed, and simply requisitions.
  19. antiexpert
    antiexpert 27 March 2016 11: 55
    +3
    The conversation with NATO has already ended - a real terrorist, Turkey, a member of NATO, and as long as it is - NATO is a terrorist organization. Dot.
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 27 March 2016 12: 01
      +2
      Everything is clear about Turkey and so, but about the rest of NATO, I would say that this is a company that makes money from the sale of the illusion of security.
  20. Belarus
    Belarus 27 March 2016 12: 00
    +2
    We can say a little in another way: NATO has enough strength for defensebut not enough strength to attack Russia. Here from this and all the songs.
  21. Lord blacwood
    Lord blacwood 27 March 2016 12: 22
    0
    The USA and the Russian Federation know that there will be no war. But American corporations, intimidating European countries by Russians, will profit from arms exports.
  22. neo1200
    neo1200 27 March 2016 12: 49
    +2
    By the way, the statement about the unpreparedness of the European part of NATO for a "real war" with Russia is not so far from reality. When the USSR collapsed in the United States, they apparently decided that the Europeans were not supposed to have combat-ready armies. There were publications about the low combat readiness of the FRG army before. At the time of Serdyukov, they liked to compare the Russian T-90 with the Leopard 2A7, wrote that the T-90 hopelessly lagged behind the German car, although they forgot this modification of the Leopard was not adopted by the German army, but are supplied exclusively to Saudi Arabia. In the Bundeswehr, there are only about 240 Leopards version 2A6 (approximately our T90), the rest are outdated modifications. The situation is similar in German aviation. I think that the absence of a serious enemy has led to the degradation of the armed forces of many NATO countries.
  23. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 27 March 2016 12: 54
    +2
    For the most part, NATO has so far only puffed out its cheeks and destroyed backward countries, such as scaring the rest. Did they really think that they would scare someone? And when they see indifference to their militancy, they begin to whimper.
  24. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 27 March 2016 13: 10
    +1
    Quote: dchegrinec
    For the most part, NATO has so far only puffed out its cheeks and destroyed backward countries, such as scaring the rest. Did they really think that they would scare someone? And when they see indifference to their militancy, they begin to whimper.


    I see that under a pile of NATO caps they buried. Good.
    I think that the Minobovsk ranks should sit on your couch, build up self-esteem, learn patriotism, and finally learn to look at NATO as a soldier at a louse, and not as a possible enemy.
  25. Stariknv
    Stariknv 27 March 2016 13: 38
    0
    NATO has 28 countries, including the US whose military budget is a considerable amount. Russia alone is opposed to all these forces that are aimed at the destruction of Russia. The question is who threatens whom and who defends himself?
    1. Samen
      Samen 27 March 2016 15: 06
      +1
      Quote: StarikNV
      NATO has 28 countries, including the US whose military budget is a considerable amount. Russia alone is opposed to all these forces that are aimed at the destruction of Russia. The question is who threatens whom and who defends himself?

      Fortunately - not one! There are also: China, India, Iran, Latin American countries, etc., etc. hi
  26. Geser
    Geser 27 March 2016 15: 03
    +2
    If NATO really has problems on such a scale as the authors of the report describe, then there is only one conclusion - military and civilian officials make very good use of allocated funds in NATO, that is, they steal corny. I think our military intelligence knows who and how many of the NATO officials are putting into their pocket, swindling with reports on the use of finance. If you approach this matter wisely, then stealing ranks can be pressed so that they become our agents. I bet this is a good idea.
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    2. Vitwin
      Vitwin 27 March 2016 15: 20
      +3
      Quote: Geser
      If you approach this matter wisely, then stealing ranks can be pressed so that they become our agents. I bet this is a good idea.


      Strong idea, perhaps you will be awarded with this sign - wait for a call from Yasenevo soldier
      1. Geser
        Geser 27 March 2016 23: 25
        +1
        Better from the GRU. All the same, NATO has more to do with military intelligence.
  27. Putnik_16
    Putnik_16 27 March 2016 15: 29
    +1
    There is an offer laughing chip in ruble
    NATO's poverty ...
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 27 March 2016 15: 48
      0
      NATO Secretary General accused Russia of "ruining" the alliance

      http://ren.tv/novosti/2016-02-23/gensek-nato-obvinil-rossiyu-v-razorenii-alyansa
  28. demiurg
    demiurg 27 March 2016 15: 55
    +2
    Missed the start of the modernization of the Russian army. On average, they seem to be doing well in the hospital, but too much needs to be upgraded at once. The T-90 tank of the previous generation caught the TOU and, in addition to the escaped gunner, had no losses or breakdowns. Aircraft of 70 years of production with simple cast iron were thrown with precision like expensive guided bombs. Mi-24s that scared the Mujahideen in Afghanistan no less successfully, almost with blades of screws drive the faithful along the Syrian sands. Missile boats, weapons of the poor suddenly shot at 2.5 thousand km. But the Dark One hints that not all new products have been to Syria.
    After that, you either had to brag about the destroyed excavator and the shooting of the wedding, or ask for money for very super accurate bombs and mega tanks. It’s more profitable to buy money, which we see.
    In a hybrid war, however, a lot of money cannot be cut.
  29. beer-youk
    beer-youk 27 March 2016 21: 13
    0
    Quote: Ramzaj99
    The commander-in-chief of NATO in Europe, Philip Breedlove, said that it is necessary to start using U2 “stealth planes” again to spy on the region, including Russia, writes Independent.


    The stump is clear, almost eight years to be blind - inevitably you will return to the last century!
    I can’t even imagine how many times they regretted that in 2008 they abandoned satellite photo-optical reconnaissance in favor of electronic intelligence.
  30. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 28 March 2016 05: 44
    0
    Quote: Putnik_16
    There is an offer laughing chip in ruble
    NATO's poverty ...

    Better on a tombstone.
  31. leon
    leon 28 March 2016 06: 39
    0
    What difference does it make how many flies do they have, how much does it fly, how much does it go or not ... Nobody wants to fight, except for computer URA !!! ... patriots. War is something that no one needs. I have a feeling that some old men will go to war as in that film. We can at least do something. And sitting in a computer you can be cool, and win all at once ...