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Turkish firm Turkuaz Shipping claims that the Lira bulk carrier, which crashed into the support of the Crimean bridge under construction, does not belong to it

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Head of the Port Operations Division of the Turkish Company Turkuaz Shipping Jemal Kaya in an interview RIA News He said that the ship Lira, which had crashed into a pillar of the bridge under construction between the Kuban and the Crimea, has nothing to do with the Turkish company. It must be recalled that the cargo ship Lira, which crashed into one of the bridge pillars, was arrested in the port of Taganrog. The decision to arrest the vessel was made by the Rostov Arbitration Court.


Turkish firm Turkuaz Shipping claims that the Lira bulk carrier, which crashed into the support of the Crimean bridge under construction, does not belong to it


Cemal Kaya:
The ship "Lira" in our company is not listed, we checked all our documents and were convinced of this. There is some kind of mistake.


Employees of the embassy of Panama, under the flag of which the cargo ship was going, stated that they did not receive any information about the arrest of the Lyra.

It should be noted that the captain of the ship “Lira” has Turkish citizenship. A decision was taken to recover the damage, which amounts to 120 million rubles, from the owner of the vessel. Apparently, company representatives Turkuaz ShippingHaving learned about the amount that they have to pay, they decided to abandon the dry cargo ship, saying that it is not the property of their company.

Against the background of the news about the “ramming” of the bridge under construction, information comes to the Crimea about the statement that the head of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, made a statement about the possibility of restoring contacts with Turkey. In an interview with reporters RIA News they said that Russia is first of all waiting for Turkey to confess guilt for the Russian bomber Su-24M shot down last year. At the same time, Matvienko added that so far from the Turkish side there is not even a hint of it.
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  1. vodolaz
    vodolaz 25 March 2016 12: 32
    +11
    Now let go under the hammer.
    1. Vend
      Vend 25 March 2016 12: 37
      +4
      Well, I said diversion
      1. meriem1
        meriem1 25 March 2016 12: 49
        +13
        Quote: Wend
        Well, I said diversion

        Terrorist act! To jail!!!!!!!! And trace the beneficiaries ... and cut off go here. Although the Turks))) just a laugh. Specifically managed. Just scream.

        PS And if not someone. That will leave the auction. The team will sit ... until the fine is paid
        1. Luga
          Luga 25 March 2016 13: 47
          -2
          Quote: meriem1
          Terrorist act! To jail!!!!!!!! And trace the beneficiaries ... and cut off go here. Although the Turks))) just a laugh. Specifically managed. Just scream.


          And drive the ship along with the captain to Sinop and right in the raid cynically tear to pieces the anti-ship missiles. From the Crimea. For edification.
          1. KVS
            KVS 25 March 2016 21: 29
            -1
            may there be a third world war !!!
            what for? for what purpose?
            when it is possible to sing to the captain for life, the ship is under the hammer ...
            1. crazyrom
              crazyrom 25 March 2016 23: 05
              +2
              Of course, it’s foolish to blow up a working ship, you need to repaint it and leave it to yourself, and let BAM-2 build all those in charge (captain, assistant, radio operator and who else is there) in Siberia.
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        3. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 25 March 2016 16: 50
          +2
          The team will sit ... until the fine is paid

          The ship’s team is not galley slaves for you, it is not liable for damage caused by the ship. The owner of the ship bears civil liability. And the criminal (if they find the composition, which I strongly doubt) is the captain of the ship and / or the person who controlled the vessel at the time of the accident.
        4. your1970
          your1970 25 March 2016 18: 04
          +7
          The team will not sit for sure - the captain maximum as the person responsible for everything on board.
          Most likely, having really learned about the size of the recovery, they stupidly decided to abandon the ship ...
      2. Wolverine
        Wolverine 25 March 2016 12: 53
        +15
        It is very similar to this, they drove the old trough that was written off and in advance, the Captain would write everything in boiling water ... wassat
        1. PSih2097
          PSih2097 25 March 2016 14: 32
          +2
          Quote: Wolverine
          It’s very similar to this, they drove the old trough under deduction and in front,

          31 years for a cargo ship is not a deadline ...
          IMO: 8516744
          MMSI: 374749000
          Call Sign: 3FIH3
          Flag: Panama [PA]
          AIS Type: Cargo
          Gross Tonnage: 1948
          Deadweight: 3078 t
          Length Overall x Breadth Extreme: 89.31m × 12.53m
          Year Built: 1985
          Status: Active

          Read more at http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:377023/mmsi:374749000/i

          mo: 8516744 / vessel: LIRA # KDp4m9IsgeymRIvP.99
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        3. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 25 March 2016 16: 53
          +5
          I will tell everything to the captain in boiling water

          If you put a pussy in boiling water, then half of those present admit that this attack was personally agreed by them with Obama. wink
      3. alexmach
        alexmach 25 March 2016 16: 18
        +2
        oh well, suddenly really ragging. Once a sailor told me on a tourist tourist yacht that they somehow sank their bulk carrier. Something went wrong and it fell apart near the Israeli coast. They then spent a month in prison, arguing that they were not on purpose.
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 25 March 2016 17: 25
          +2
          Quote: alexmach
          oh well, suddenly really ragging. I’m a sailor once ...


          Nehru we sloppiness! Fuck at home such a fool ...
        2. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 25 March 2016 18: 04
          0
          Yeah, the transcript of the talks says it's not sloppiness.
    2. cniza
      cniza 25 March 2016 12: 37
      +6
      They bawled, like in a frying pan, they would not pay the ship, they would take it away, but it looks like it is not worth that money.
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    4. Samen
      Samen 25 March 2016 12: 41
      +3
      Apparently, the representatives of Turkuaz Shipping, having learned about the amount that they have to pay, decided to abandon the cargo ship, saying that it was not the property of their company.

      "I am not me! Ephesus is not mine!" - traditional Turkish behavior ...
      Shy cats.
    5. Amurets
      Amurets 25 March 2016 12: 47
      +2
      Quote: vodolaz
      Now let go under the hammer.

      Whom? Captain?
    6. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 25 March 2016 12: 49
      +3
      ship "Lira" has nothing to do with the Turkish company
      Even so ? But
      the captain of the vessel "Lira" has Turkish citizenship.

      So arrest the vessel together with the cargo, use the team with the captain in restoration work!
      And whoever seeks them and speaks on the other side, let them pay a fine!
      1. 73bor
        73bor 25 March 2016 14: 53
        +2
        It’s like, now in this way Turkish guest workers come to us, right away with their bulk carriers!
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      3. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 25 March 2016 16: 58
        -1
        The vessel has already been arrested and will be sold at auction to cover the damage. There was probably no cargo on the ship, usually dry cargo ships take cargo out of Russia, most likely grain. And the team will go home, with the exception of the captain and the person managing the ship. Yes, most likely they will be released, they are foreign citizens, without good reason they will not be detained.
    7. Maxom75
      Maxom75 25 March 2016 13: 19
      +2
      If a tie means ours. Captain in jail and a fine, the ship in favor of the state va.
      1. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 25 March 2016 17: 02
        0
        ship in favor of the state.

        The damage was caused not to the state, but to the contractor involved in the construction of the bridge. The state did not accept the bridge, especially since it is a temporary bridge that must be dismantled when the object is commissioned. Damage will be recovered by the contractor in court from the owner of the vessel.
      2. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 25 March 2016 17: 02
        -3
        ship in favor of the state.

        The damage was caused not to the state, but to the contractor involved in the construction of the bridge. The state did not accept the bridge, especially since it is a temporary bridge that must be dismantled when the object is commissioned. Damage will be recovered by the contractor in court from the owner of the vessel.
    8. Uncle
      Uncle 25 March 2016 13: 41
      +1
      Quote: vodolaz
      Now let go under the hammer.

      They will change to Bout. smile
      1. Bath
        Bath 25 March 2016 14: 41
        +1
        Normal Turkish Mutanuli firewall
    9. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 25 March 2016 20: 54
      0
      swindlers when they throw insurers also say - they stole a car, drive money! when in real life they themselves cut it into parts and sold it smile
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 25 March 2016 12: 34
    +17
    Turkish firm Turkuaz Shipping claims that the Lira bulk carrier, which crashed into the support of the Crimean bridge under construction, does not belong to it
    As I understand it, now we are going to catch the entire Turkish decommissioned fleet of carobles of all stripes under the bridge? So soon the bridge will not be needed, the Turks will get it from the decommissioned barges themselves. But seriously. Something must be decided! Ras such a thing, then the incident equate to a terrorist act. The team in Siberia will remove snow for 25 years. The rest will think of recruiting such a "flying Dutchman" 1000 times.
    1. avt
      avt 25 March 2016 12: 37
      +2
      Quote: Observer2014
      Turkish firm Turkuaz Shipping claims that the Lira bulk carrier, which crashed into the support of the Crimean bridge under construction, does not belong to it

      Well, they would have announced him immediately, the Flying Dutchman " wassat
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 25 March 2016 12: 52
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Well, they would have announced him immediately, the Flying Dutchman "

        Why offend the Dutch ?! "Soaring Turk" "it!
        1. Ugrumiy
          Ugrumiy 25 March 2016 12: 57
          +4
          Then "Turkish asshole." good
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 25 March 2016 12: 54
      +1
      Quote: Observer2014
      But seriously, something needs to be decided!

      But what to decide? What do we have on Onishchenko alone? Let our officials work out their bread. The larger the vessel, the more papers they require, preferably in 10 copies. This does not apply to their vessels, those that are under the flag of the Russian Federation.
    3. bif
      bif 25 March 2016 16: 06
      +2
      All vessels without a Russian pilot and having a suspicious course to escort MRK and if that use the vessel as in the picture ....
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 March 2016 12: 36
    +2
    The Ottoman company leaked its galosh! laughing
  4. pts-m
    pts-m 25 March 2016 12: 36
    +2
    as usual ... I'm not me and the balalaika is not mine ... the Vertuos are bad.
  5. annodomene
    annodomene 25 March 2016 12: 37
    +5
    Well, a couple of TFR in the area of ​​the bridge would not hurt ... With the possibility of using all types of weapons on surface (Turkish) targets.
    1. R-22
      R-22 25 March 2016 15: 05
      +2
      and underwater too, you never know what other divers will conceive
    2. Karayakupovo
      Karayakupovo 25 March 2016 15: 52
      0
      And what will it give. The shipping section along the Yenikali Canal there is small and not wide, and keeping two SKR will cost a little. As already said, ice cutters will be installed on the Neva and that’s all.
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 25 March 2016 12: 39
    +5
    "Apparently, the representatives of Turkuaz Shipping, having learned about the amount that they have to pay, decided to abandon the dry cargo ship, saying that it is not the property of their company," well, yes, I am not me and the horse is not mine ...
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 March 2016 12: 40
    +2
    In short, our actions: - confiscation of the vessel by court order, as a means of committing a crime, sale at auction and depositing money to compensate for the damage, and let them try to blather. Stop bowing to them, it's time to bring to a feeling. That will be the work of lawyers.
  8. Dimontius
    Dimontius 25 March 2016 12: 41
    +1
    drown and that's it. they can shoot down Tipo in their airspace, and we can drown in our own water!
  9. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 25 March 2016 12: 43
    +3
    It is necessary to somehow protect the Kerch Strait from such sabotage.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 March 2016 12: 45
    +2
    Here are some tricks. The ship does not cost so much. True, the damage from one pile is somehow too big. laughing There are thousands of these piles, and even taking into account the inconvenience of moving the equipment, removing the old pile and driving a new one - 120 llamas - this is ... Hmm. But it is necessary to frighten, so as not to be common.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 25 March 2016 15: 56
      -1
      This is a boat compensation for a downed bomber.
  11. Flinky
    Flinky 25 March 2016 12: 47
    +1
    Well, confiscate what is there. And sell it.
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 25 March 2016 13: 13
      +1
      And we’ll drink beer, there’s not enough money for more
  12. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 25 March 2016 12: 48
    +2
    then it now belongs to us, along with the cargo and the captain’s kidney laughing
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 25 March 2016 13: 22
      0
      Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
      then it now belongs to us, along with the cargo and the captain’s kidney laughing

      Was the court ruling?
      The ship is detained by sea rules for 72 hours.
      1. kopatich
        kopatich 25 March 2016 13: 42
        +3
        arbitration seized this vessel as a security measure, so that there is more than 72 hours
  13. iouris
    iouris 25 March 2016 12: 55
    +1
    Most likely, the vessel to be disposed of was sold to some phony commercial structure of a one-day registration registered somewhere in Kherson.
  14. Signaller
    Signaller 25 March 2016 12: 57
    +2
    There is direct sabotage and sabotage. We must draw conclusions and strengthen the protection of the bridge and come up with engineering defenders of the supports. Otherwise, a thread like a trawler such as a pelvis not standing and penniless will blow it and say that it was. This cannot be allowed in principle. I think they will come up with, and as always, this method will be both effective and unexpected. Good luck to bridge builders.
  15. sergant1.1
    sergant1.1 25 March 2016 12: 58
    +4
    And remember, in November or December, a Turkish fishing vessel went to our warship until we started shooting. Also, you would have rammed it. The enviable regularity and selectivity of the flag.
  16. Executer
    Executer 25 March 2016 13: 08
    +3
    Quote: "...head of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko. In an interview with RIA Novosti, they said that Russia first of all expects Turkey to plead guilty for the Russian Su-24M bomber shot down last year. At the same time, Matvienko added that so far there is not even a hint of this from the Turkish side."
    Oh, I'm afraid - we won’t wait. They do not recognize the genocide of a whole people, and here there is only one plane ....
  17. OlegLex
    OlegLex 25 March 2016 13: 23
    +2
    We’ve been fighting the Turks for five hundred years, our rejection is already at the genetic level, as well as with them. A cargo ship crashed into a support, Oh, they shot down a plane - they themselves flew into our rocket which flew exclusively in our airspace. No wonder. Although the meaning of such an operation, I would understand that they crashed into the support of an existing bridge, but what is a warning here? they say you are building and we crash. So thank you relatives, we have given two unbeaten for one beaten. so next time at a critical approach of any vessel it will be sunk well or at least emergency stop. we’ll carry out a dozen teachings on this subject and those who wish will drown themselves.
  18. sir_obs
    sir_obs 25 March 2016 13: 24
    +1
    I wonder how much the entire bridge costs if damage of one support was pulled by that amount?
    And how will such situations be prevented in the future, there are still a lot of dry cargoes left.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 25 March 2016 13: 33
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      I wonder how much the entire bridge costs if damage of one support was pulled by that amount?
      And how will such situations be prevented in the future, there are still a lot of dry cargoes left.

      Mount the turkish hull in the bridge supports - both as reinforcement of damaged supports, and as a warning to stupid and irresponsible skippers .....
      laughing
      1. your1970
        your1970 25 March 2016 18: 09
        0
        Aha - as before at the posts of GAI put beaten cars from heavy accidents ...
    2. Cat man null
      Cat man null 25 March 2016 14: 32
      +2
      Quote: sir_obs
      I wonder how much the entire bridge costs if damage of one support was pulled by that amount?

      - there is not only the price of the support, there is also moral damage included wink

      Quote: sir_obs
      And how will such situations be prevented in the future, there are still a lot of dry cargoes left.

      - they will put the border guards (or anyone else, it doesn’t matter) and will politely .. accompany. Next - a sea of ​​options, depending on the behavior of the object being followed
      - By the way, not so big bridges were guarded under the USSR. Now they have abandoned this business somehow .. IMHO in vain.
      1. your1970
        your1970 25 March 2016 18: 10
        0
        and now they guard quite seriously equipped technically ..
    3. Karayakupovo
      Karayakupovo 25 March 2016 15: 48
      +1
      It all depends on the place of foundations. Closer to the shore, one amount, at a depth of another. And then, as on the Neva bridges, they will install ice cutters and that's it. Captain.
  19. Pinkie F.
    Pinkie F. 25 March 2016 13: 32
    +2
    turquoise

    funny name ...
  20. koshmarik
    koshmarik 25 March 2016 14: 23
    +2
    I think that this was not sabotage, but the usual gouging of a poorly trained international crew. Bent 2-3 support pipes of the temporary bridge obviously do not pull on sabotage. Probably the amount of damage (120 million green) included moral damage and a threat to the lives of workers and neglect of warning signals, etc.
    1. Riv
      Riv 25 March 2016 14: 32
      0
      Rather, a trial balloon disguised as gullibility: "What will happen if ..." What will these Russians do next time? Will they drown? Will they put the Rapiers on both sides of the strait? And if the goal is in the fairway? And if the ship is loaded with something dangerous, nitrogen fertilizers for example? Shoot along the barge with ammonium nitrate - and then look for a bridge at the bottom.
      1. Pinkie F.
        Pinkie F. 25 March 2016 14: 36
        +1
        Quote: Riv
        Rather, a trial balloon disguised as gouging: "What happens if ..."

        aha, the second "knife in the back" !!! laughing
    2. DPG
      DPG 25 March 2016 17: 57
      0
      That's what and where did you get 120 million green ??? And yet pipes of this diameter and length, plus the installation time and other materials, with overhead costs about the same, and also need to dismantle damaged piles and install new ones. But the dish is a maximum of 40 million and not greenery and just pulls rubles. So the diversion of pure water.
      1. your1970
        your1970 25 March 2016 18: 13
        0
        1 support = 120 million rubles ...
  21. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 25 March 2016 14: 43
    0
    So, day after day, outdated news is being posted on VO ...
    Yesterday they also found out what another company?
    Initially, it was reported that the dry cargo ship belongs to Turkuaz Shipping, but the company said that they did not have such a vessel. Then it became known that the operator of Lira was the Turkish company Voda Shipping, whose website says that it owns the Turkuaz Shipping dry cargo ship (registered in the Marshall Islands). Moreover, according to Voda Shipping, the ship is flying the flag of Belize, not Panama.

    https://lenta.ru/news/2016/03/24/uscherb/
  22. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 25 March 2016 14: 48
    +1
    such a fine was stuck in the course of it, he is now ours
  23. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 25 March 2016 15: 06
    0
    Quote: Wolverine
    It is very similar to this, they drove the old trough that was written off and in advance, the Captain would write everything in boiling water ... wassat
    will tell soon. specialists are already digging
  24. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 25 March 2016 15: 45
    +1
    First of all, in the area of ​​navigable spans, to establish ice cutters, as on St. Petersburg bridges. Then the ship itself will sink and the owner of the ship and the cargo will quickly be found in (s) y.
  25. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 25 March 2016 16: 21
    +1
    Quote: KG_patriot_last
    Lira’s operator is the Turkish company Voda Shipping, whose website says that it owns the Turkuaz Shipping dry cargo ship (registered in the Marshall Islands). Moreover, according to Voda Shipping, the ship is flying the flag of Belize, not Panama.

    Do not care all. Let them understand whose operator, whose ship ... Owner from the Marshall Islands? A flag in his hand and an edge question: either the Marshall Islands or 120 lyamov! And the captain of the water court to Siberia. It’s warm there, there are tomatoes.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 25 March 2016 17: 09
      0
      He probably never ate white tomatoes in Kolyma.
  26. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 25 March 2016 17: 14
    0
    We'll have to equip a floating checkpoint on the way. Like we have at the airport. Someone drown on the spot. There may be martyrs but without a belt and on a ship with explosives. It’s the same as a mined car.
  27. Master 2008
    Master 2008 25 March 2016 17: 22
    0
    The vessel and the entire crew of the LIRA dry cargo ship are under arrest until the shipowner has paid the full amount of damage! Panama will also bill for gross violation by the dry cargo ship of the rules for navigation in the inland waters of the Russian Federation. For violation, withdraw all documents from the master and all documentation on the navigation bridge until the damage is fully repaid.
  28. sw6513
    sw6513 25 March 2016 19: 36
    0
    It’s rather a diversion of the Turks, because the damage will not cover this rusty cargo ship and a tenth
  29. dvg1959
    dvg1959 25 March 2016 20: 34
    0
    To hide the ends in the water, this is a solution to the issue in Turkish, their style.
    They do not confess, then there is nothing to oppose.
    Well, the ship is not worth a lot of money, so the damage will be compensated in any case.
    Yes, and the owner, most likely there is, because the cargo ship is not a rubber boat for catching ruffs.
    And now you need to turn on the brush, let it shake.
  30. Antor
    Antor 25 March 2016 22: 00
    +1
    When I hear that someone is expecting from our statesmen, that Turkey will admit its mistakes, apologizing for our downed plane, then nothing comes to mind except swear words !! Does it really not reach someone else that this will never happen under the Turkish Fuhrer Erdogan !! And the permits for flights to Turkey have already been given to the Ural Airlines and again our money with our tourists will flow into the pocket of Turkey, strengthening its economy and how can we understand these "Wishlist"! ??? The Turkish captain of the ship "Lyra" flew into our span of the bridge under construction, a loss of 120 million was counted and that, we will continue to wait for an apology and want something !? Who is guarding the bridge under construction from such "raids" is not clear, but if such a blow to the constructed bridge or there in Moscow dreams well Mrs. Matvienko and not only !! ????
    It is also incomprehensible statements that such damage caused by the timing of the construction of the bridge will not be reflected .. no words, some dreamers around, should be reflected, and even how! Although sometimes you are not surprised at anything, there is only lies and irresponsibility all around, it is not for nothing that even the president sometimes has a desire to "hang someone." And the case with "Lira" I'm afraid these are the first signs of the intrigues of those who have this bridge "across their throats" and it's time to wake up our "irresponsible" from dreams and ensure all possible security measures, up to the establishment of a special regime for the passage of ships only with a pilot and the presence of military means of influence in the event of a change in the regime and boundaries of the established corridor.
  31. 23424636
    23424636 26 March 2016 19: 32
    0
    I am surprised at the idiocy of the authors of this Turkish project, or are they sitting there with suitcases in Israel, or someone wants to know how to bomb enemies? During the time of the Ukrainian border guards, all vessels following the Kerch Strait for official salvage were provided by pilots. Now. When did the strategic facility under construction open free navigation? Or the roof leaked, or we already live in Israel.?
  32. Gunther
    Gunther 29 March 2016 14: 51
    0
    March 19, at 23:46, the RSUDS operator:
    Lyra, do you need help?
    Lyra: "We're okay!"

    All oceans happened, according to Zadornov.
    Quote: Observer2014
    ... We, as I understand it, will now catch the entire Turkish fleet of written-off fleet of carobals of all stripes under the bridge?

    In order not to catch the entire Turkish fleet, the Ministry of Transport of Russia needs to cancel its own order number 313, 2015.
    By the way, let’s think, why did the Ministry of Transport allow vessels with a draft of up to 4,5 meters (length up to 140 meters) to pass through the Kerch Strait without a pilot?