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Let's lift the sanctions!

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According to the ex-presidential aide R. Reagan, senior researcher at the Cato Institute and publicist Doug Bendow, the next anniversary of the annexation of Crimea to Russia could be an appropriate time for the lifting of sanctions against Russia. Bandow is not a benefactor of Russia. He thinks pragmatically: he recalls that these sanctions cost the Western states dearly, but they didn’t give much effect.


Doug bandow (Doug Bandow) - Senior Researcher at the Cato Institute, specializing in foreign policy and civil liberties, author of books on economics and politics. He worked as special assistant to President Reagan, was the editor of the political magazine "Inquiry". Now regularly published in Fortune, Forbes, The National Interest, The Wall Street Journal and others.

As pointed out by Bandow, who has acted as a political observer in an influential journal "Forbes"It has been two years since Russia annexed the Crimea. Western allies infringe upon Russia with sanctions, but their effect is small.

Yes, the Russian economy has suffered, but Vladimir Putin remains popular in the country. And no one in Russia believes that the Crimea should be returned to Ukraine, this is out of the question.

But what does the West do?

Last week, the European Union called on other countries to join their “ineffective boycott,” the author writes with irony. The Council of Europe, one of several EU governing bodies, argues that the “non-recognition policy” should be continued and “restrictive measures” should be applied. The Council appeals to the UN member states, urging them to consider the possibility of taking "similar measures."

Although the main Asian allies of the United States have joined with the sanctions against Moscow, many countries, including China, India and Brazil, treat the restrictive measures against Russia negatively. The overwhelming majority of developing countries "are not going to declare an economic war to a distant country that did nothing wrong to them."

Washington, of course, remains one of the most "ardent supporters" of sanctions. But Europe is divided on this issue. Many Europeans recognized that the actions of Russia in Ukraine do not concern them, and see no reason to "punish themselves" in the midst of economically difficult times.

Meanwhile, the armed conflict in the east of Ukraine began to decline, and Kiev found itself in a dead end of a political crisis.

All this means that the Europeans "spent a lot, but did not achieve anything." The United States and the EU only “reinforce the failed policy”.

Doug Bandow suggests that Western states, instead of continuing the sanctions, "reconsider their policy towards Russia." Vladimir Putin is hardly a “good guy,” and the concept of “democracy” in Russia may well be an oxymoron, he writes with irony, but what does it have to do with it? Did "lack of civil and political rights" once stop Washington? Remember: the White House supported Egypt, helped Pakistan, collaborated with Saudi Arabia. Europeans do exactly the same thing, act "pragmatically."

From the point of view of geopolitics, Ukraine is of much greater importance for Moscow, and not at all for Europe or America, and this is a real fact, not a “moral judgment”. “Russia will always spend and risk more,” the analyst notes, “to protect the interests of her security in the neighborhood ...” In addition, the West challenged Moscow: encouraged the “color revolution” in Kiev, promised to include Ukraine into NATO, supported street protests against democratically President-elect Yanukovych.

Of course, this does not justify Russia's actions to “dismember its neighbor,” but Putin did “act predictably and rationally.” He is not at all "neither Hitler nor Stalin reincarnated."

In addition, Putin has never demonstrated a desire to "devour non-Russian peoples." This explains why he "did not go to the rest of Ukraine," as "some panic -orists predicted." He prefers to see Kiev "independent, albeit weak and harmless." Kiev as a part of Russia does not need him. "Violent annexation" he also does not need. Moscow is not going to invade the Baltic States, which is already “harmless” now, not to mention Poland, and especially the leading European countries.

US allies should understand this and negotiate the lifting of sanctions, looking for a way out of the situation in which they are "stuck."

Kiev, it should be recognized, the observer believes, that it will never be part of the Western bloc, despite the fact that Ukraine will be an independent country, freely deciding its fate.

The political model for Ukraine could be Finland, which held a special position during the Cold War. The so-called “Finlandization” did not show the best result, the analyst believes, but in those conditions it was the best that could be expected.

The United States and Europe should not reach complete hostility with Russia. Crimea will not return. What more results does the West expect from sanctions? Just moral pressure?

We must not crush the sanctions, and cooperate. Many important issues in the world require resolution. There are North Korea, Iran, Syria, China and Afghanistan, where the West will benefit from cooperation with Russia. Two years of economic pressure on Russia is enough to make sure that there is no desired result.

The author hopes that "in some European countries" they begin to realize that the time has come to "make a deal with Moscow and move on."

It remains only for Brussels and Washington to come to the "same conclusion."

The other day, Mr. Medvedev, we will add on our own, explained to sanctioning Europe that the Russian people are “patient”. And he said that Moscow is ready to cooperate with the Europeans, if they weaken the sanctions.

At a meeting with the head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), Kirill Dmitriev, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said: “... We are people in this sense, patient. If they make the necessary decisions, then naturally, we are ready to expand the entire spectrum of cooperation, including in those areas that you mentioned (investments in the Russian economy) using the institute of your foundation, and in other areas too. ”

On the other hand, it is doubtful that Europe would lift the sanctions or even go for their mitigation.

Recall that recently, 10 in March, the Council of Europe extended the “black list” for half a year, which contains individuals and legal entities from Russia and the self-proclaimed DNR and LC. The decision to extend the sanctions connected with the "continuing undermining or threat to the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine."

We will "endure" further.

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  1. Rav075
    Rav075 28 March 2016 07: 51
    +26
    We must be realistic, no one will cancel the sanctions in the next (two-three-five) years.
    1. Kostyar
      Kostyar 28 March 2016 08: 00
      +61
      And sanctions do not need to be canceled!
      Still to dispossess officials who do not do nifiga for the country and waiting for oil to rise in price !!!
      1. cniza
        cniza 28 March 2016 08: 10
        +15
        Quote: Bone
        And sanctions do not need to be canceled!
        Still to dispossess officials who do not do nifiga for the country and waiting for oil to rise in price !!!


        I support, but to shake the officials - this is only we can, no one else will do it.
        1. umah
          umah 28 March 2016 08: 41
          +15
          Sanctions are not to punish us. They are in order to slow down the development of our country. When the Americans saw the pace of rearmament of Russia, they really did not like it. Ukraine - just an excuse, if not for it - would have found another reason, but sanctions were imposed anyway. And they won’t shoot them, although the talk about it will not stop.

          The other day, Mr. Medvedev, we will add on our own, explained to sanctioning Europe that the Russian people are “patient”. And he said that Moscow is ready to cooperate with the Europeans, if they weaken the sanctions.

          And it’s time for Medvedev, and other officials, to have press secretaries, otherwise the language is bold. The Foreign Ministry is trying, the image of the country is increasing, and these as pease blur something, so at least stand, at least fall
          1. Kalmar
            Kalmar 28 March 2016 12: 41
            +2
            Quote: umah
            Sanctions are not to punish us. They are in order to slow down the development of our country.

            What is the development? To pump more oil and gas? Actually, some attempts in terms of development only after the sanctions began: they forgot about import substitution.

            Sanctions are rather a rather transparent hint to our elites, who carefully preserve their honestly earned good in all kinds of Europe and the Americas. And the essence of the hint, presumably, is simple: do not go into the business of serious uncles (like the same Ukraine) without asking and prevent these uncles from running their business.
            1. umah
              umah 28 March 2016 13: 52
              +1
              What is the development?

              First of all, military development. Countries with serious military potential of the SGA are automatically perceived as a possible competitor and enemy, because such countries can conduct an independent foreign policy.
              1. Kalmar
                Kalmar 28 March 2016 16: 41
                0
                Quote: umah
                First of all, military development. Countries with serious military potential of the SGA are automatically perceived as a possible competitor and enemy, because such countries can conduct an independent foreign policy.

                Regarding independent foreign policy. After all, it’s politics that are led not by tanks and missiles, but by specific individuals in the upper echelons of power. And their politics will not be more independent than themselves.

                Those who are now in power are firmly and reliably tied to the West: they have money stored there, property is bought, children study, etc. And as soon as their policy becomes too independent, they just hint that they should be more modest. Here with the help of sanctions, for example.

                Military development does not solve anything here: why should the West be afraid of our tanks / missiles / aircraft, if they know for sure that none of this will be used against them? You don't even have to go far for an example: the Turks shamelessly and under the general tacit approval shot down our plane, and neither the S-400, nor the Caliber, nor any other horrors from which NATO allegedly trembled incessantly, did not frighten them.
                1. KaPToC
                  KaPToC 28 March 2016 19: 27
                  -1
                  Aircraft shot down before, including American ones, a feat is not great. And you are glad to wet how they shot down a Russian plane.
          2. the villain
            the villain 28 March 2016 22: 04
            +2
            Quote: umah

            And it’s time for Medvedev, and other officials, to have press secretaries
      2. Aleksander
        Aleksander 28 March 2016 08: 42
        +7
        Quote: Bone
        And sanctions do not need to be canceled!


        And without them there wasn’t enough brains to understand the need to engage in high technology.
        Putin said in an interview with Russia 1 TV channel.
        "This is import substitution, to which we pushed partners, it’s very good for us. Therefore, this is not about the fact that we are creating problems for our economy - on the contrary, we only bring it to new high-tech frontiers",
      3. seti
        seti 28 March 2016 09: 01
        +8
        You need to understand that the sanctions were not introduced in order to cancel. This is an element of containment of the Russian economy. And they began to introduce them long before the coup in Ukraine.
        So in the near future, the complete lifting of sanctions does not threaten us.
        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 28 March 2016 10: 34
          -2
          Quote: seti
          You need to understand that the sanctions were not introduced in order to cancel. This is an element of containment of the Russian economy.

          The sanctions will be lifted as soon as the Russian economy goes up, I dare to assume that somewhere in the fall.
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 28 March 2016 11: 46
            0
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            The sanctions will be lifted as soon as the Russian economy goes up, I dare to assume that somewhere in the fall.

            I suppose the very opposite effect, as soon as the Russian economy begins to take steps towards recovery, will also impose sanctions, a good example is the recent advice not to buy Russian Eurobonds for EU banks. No one is interested in the stabilization and growth of our economy, and even most of our government.
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 28 March 2016 15: 33
              +1
              Quote: Corsair
              I suppose the very opposite effect, as soon as the Russian economy begins to take steps towards recovery, will also impose sanctions, a good example is the recent advice not to buy Russian Eurobonds for EU banks. No one is interested in the stabilization and growth of our economy, and even most of our government.

              In November, everything will be clear, six months is not much.
          2. neo.
            neo. 28 March 2016 12: 08
            +4
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            The sanctions will be lifted as soon as the Russian economy goes up, I dare to assume that somewhere in the fall.
            Ага.
            We will return the Crimea code (in the sense - WE-IM) and the cancer on the mountain will whistle.
            Do not. It’s better to develop inside. Not immediately, of course, but the duration of the sanctions is important for this. For us.
          3. unsinkable
            unsinkable 28 March 2016 17: 35
            0
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            the Russian economy will go up, I dare to suggest that somewhere in the fall.

            I dare to assume that the Russian economy will go up two days later than you dare to assume. Moreover, we, strong analysts, do not need proof. wink hi
      4. Altona
        Altona 28 March 2016 09: 52
        +1
        Quote: Bone
        And sanctions do not need to be canceled!
        Still to dispossess officials who do not do nifiga for the country and waiting for oil to rise in price !!!

        --------------------
        And some can be shot! How not to justify the confidence of the people.
      5. Manul
        Manul 29 March 2016 00: 24
        0
        Quote: Bone
        Still to dispossess officials who do not do nifiga for the country and waiting for oil to rise in price !!!

        You already leave the officials alone. These are ordinary civil servants who are busy deciding what deputies invented. Nobody takes special bribes there, and they have enough work. It is necessary to nightmare ministers and some deputies. Only there the mafia is not even of the state, but of the world level (there are not enough slogans and Aurora to defeat them). By dispossessing unhappy officials, you will not decide anything. Remember at last - the official is an ordinary normal person. And stars from the sky in 90% of cases it is not enough.
    2. gergi
      gergi 28 March 2016 09: 20
      +17
      Well, how did the sanctions have no effect? Very much given! Our people saw the euromouth in real life, the American smile began to be perceived as a hyena grin. Pink glasses fell from the nose of those who still had them. The fifth column, again, showed itself in all its glory. Now we know all their hari. Counted, recorded, waiting! They started to peel off the oil needle, meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezooededed away, but the trouble began. Agriculture came to life, factories have earned, we are building new ones. Gave sanctions effect, given! True, for the initiators, on ebarot.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 28 March 2016 19: 30
        0
        Hu from "na ebarot"?
        1. gergi
          gergi 28 March 2016 20: 56
          -1
          What is HUIZ? In a decent society, I ask you not to express yourself! On ebarot, which means contrary to the wrong side, against expectations, the turn. Angry uncles do not tell Mat, so you have to get out, who knows how.
    3. Al1977
      Al1977 28 March 2016 09: 29
      +7
      Quote: Rav075
      We must be realistic, no one will cancel the sanctions in the next (two-three-five) years.

      Will we continue to wait for handouts from our enemies or will we develop ourselves? A strange position, we are opposed to them and at the same time we are waiting for them to help us in the economy, this is just crazy nonsense. except the West there is no other world or something.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 10: 06
        +5
        Sanctions ..., sanctions ... are the same myth as the government's concern for the people. Introduced by a relatively small group of people, these measures were inflated by PR to universal proportions and became a screen for those in power: "Well, this damned West does not allow our economic" geniuses "to work, well, nothing.
        The chatter about pseudo sanctions is already really infuriating, about "heavenly" apples and Parmizan (by the way, these are counter-sanctions). But what would happen if real sanctions were introduced, like against Iran, for example? Or North Korea? Probably a collapse?
        In other words, even if there were no sanctions, the authorities should have come up with them, otherwise how to justify the "genius" of economic policy over the past years. The loss of integration with the outskirts is also a "wise" policy towards the CIS republics. domestic industry are the main "sanctions". Only we have no one to be responsible for all this.
      2. Altona
        Altona 28 March 2016 13: 25
        0
        Quote: Al1977
        Will we continue to wait for handouts from our enemies or will we develop ourselves? A strange position, we are opposed to them and at the same time we are waiting for them to help us in the economy, this is just crazy nonsense. except the West there is no other world or something.

        ----------------------
        So I'm wondering. How to resist the entire West having a weak "food base"? Strange politics. I fully supported this policy in 1983, even though it was hungry then. But now then?
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 28 March 2016 10: 52
      +1
      Russia has always been under sanctions and other embargoes. Only their structure and application vectors are changing. If sanctions hit the weak points in the economy, then there is no need to be substituted by the conclusion of dubious agreements such as the WTO, and listen to the opinion of your people, and Western "well-wishers."
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 28 March 2016 11: 28
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        listen to the opinion of their people "well-wishers".

        How do you imagine that. BB comes to this site in the morning and asks "People, what should I do today?" That is, they go to power not for the sake of money and power, but for the sake of what people would listen to ??? Do you even live in the real world?
    6. SIMM
      SIMM 28 March 2016 13: 34
      -1
      Yes, most likely!
      But when it is canceled, you need to make a "knight's move" and, in turn, DO NOT CANCEL the sanctions !!!
      Here they are, oh .. ...)))
    7. Achilles
      Achilles 28 March 2016 14: 37
      0
      After the 90s, almost all products in Russia were bought from Russia (somewhere around 85-90%), and now there is a very good chance to fix it, to start producing our own, so that sanctions are only for the benefit, the main thing is that our government took advantage of this
      1. Manul
        Manul 29 March 2016 00: 37
        -1
        Quote: Achilles
        After the 90s, almost all products in Russia were bought from Russia (somewhere around 85-90%), and now there is a very good chance to fix it, to start producing our own, so that sanctions are only for the benefit, the main thing is that our government took advantage of this

        Everything is correct. And to restore what is possible and to open new industries. BUT!!! It’s very hard to live in isolation anyway. Take an example of a certain village. Someone knows how to grow wheat, someone to breed cows, someone works in the forge. And everyone exchanges the products of their labor. And you try forging metal within the boundaries of one yard, and cultivate the cows and graze cows .. The world is also bound by many trade relations. Anyway, we don’t have some resources and technologies. And we need them. So our country without sanctions will still be easier. If only to have time (sanctions) to usefully carry out wink !
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 28 March 2016 07: 55
    +13
    Thank God, too. The need will force our badger rulers to do their own thing.
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 28 March 2016 12: 32
      +4
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Thank God, too. The need will force our badger rulers to do their own thing.

      Do not force. Our rulers, unfortunately, completely lost the ability to creative activity. In the worst case, they will collect manat and flee to this very decaying West. To decompose, so to speak, the enemy from the inside :)
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 28 March 2016 07: 55
    +2
    the next anniversary of the annexation of Crimea to Russia may be a good time to lift sanctions against Russia.

    Hello Oleg.
    You can’t follow and see this audience. Some lift the sanctions, others extend! And so with an enviable frequency, several times a day!
    It is not worth (emphasis on "I") to hope that they will be canceled in the foreseeable future. We live on our own life!
  4. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 28 March 2016 07: 56
    +2
    Putin never showed a desire to "devour non-Russian peoples." This explains why he “did not go to the rest of Ukraine”, as “some alarmists predicted”.

    Putin only returned HIS; we don’t need a stranger, especially when they used this stranger as a prostitute for so long, which now takes a long time treat brain gonorrhea.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 28 March 2016 08: 28
      +16
      Quote: avg-mgn
      Putin only returned his own, we do not need a stranger

      This one is our Crimea, but the left-bank Ukraine is not ours? In general, it’s funny to read such arguments, either they don’t know history, or geography, roofing felts all at once :-)
      1. Achilles
        Achilles 28 March 2016 14: 47
        0
        This one is our Crimea, but the left-bank Ukraine is not ours? In general, it’s funny to read such arguments, either they don’t know history, or geography, roofing felts all at once :-)


        I completely agree, the whole southeast has always been Russian (until 1917), this is Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Zaporizhia, Kharkov regions and of course the DPR and LPR, in my opinion it was not necessary to connect these regions to Ukraine, now because of this alone Problems
  5. Amurets
    Amurets 28 March 2016 08: 01
    +3
    Quote: Rav075
    We must be realistic, no one will cancel the sanctions in the next (two-three-five) years.

    This is understandable! Just the reasoning of this American, this real vision of that, one must get out of the situation in which the world is now facing.
    “The author hopes that“ in some European countries ”they are beginning to understand that the time has come“ to conclude a deal with Moscow and move on. ”“ If only, following the author, current politicians would begin to understand this.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 28 March 2016 08: 05
    +5
    Here is no need to scare .. Cancel the sanctions .. smile
  7. evil partisan
    evil partisan 28 March 2016 08: 06
    +11
    Our organization has experienced the life-giving power of sanctions. Previously, the electronic components we needed were 100% purchased or manufactured in the USA, South Korea and China, but after the introduction of sanctions against Russia, our leadership was forced to turn to a domestic manufacturer. Yes, there were more problems, not all positions were closed, but at least they began to move in this direction ...
    1. 31rus2
      31rus2 28 March 2016 08: 28
      +3
      Dear ones, it is clear that Russia suffers the most damage from sanctions, but sooner or later it is necessary to develop its economy, now is the time, stop looking at the West with an outstretched hand, we are a rich country, with a huge territory, with a great historical past and how it’s strange, we live and develop like third world countries, change the course of the government and take on the real economy three myths of our economy once again: 1) the military-industrial complex will not "stretch" the Russian economy, 2) small business, Russia's future, 3) import substitution, that's all these theses are correct, only the approach to implementation and the implementation itself is not at the proper level and on the wrong scale, money is not invested in specific projects, but again who is closer to the trough
      1. Vitwin
        Vitwin 28 March 2016 08: 41
        +1
        Quote: 31rus2
        Dear, it’s clear that

        An amazing comment - if Putin would have uttered it, but for the time being beautiful souls, no more.
    2. Al1977
      Al1977 28 March 2016 09: 33
      +4
      Quote: Angry Guerrilla
      Yes, there were more problems, not all positions were closed, but at least they began to move in this direction ...

      That's right, as BB said, the crisis is a time of opportunity for our enterprises. Why do not we impose sanctions against the criminal policies of Europe and the USA? Or a ban on the supply of apples is our worthy answer ???
      1. aleksey980
        aleksey980 28 March 2016 11: 09
        +1
        Quote: Al1977
        Why do not we impose sanctions against the criminal policies of Europe and the USA? Or a ban on the supply of apples is our worthy answer ???

        For the usurious economy of a society that teeters on the brink of a crisis of overproduction, the worst blow is the closure of sales markets. wink
        1. Al1977
          Al1977 28 March 2016 11: 21
          +3
          Quote: aleksey980
          For the usurious economy of a society that teeters on the brink of a crisis of overproduction

          It would be better if I had a wallet overflow crisis))
          I agree with you, overproduction is not our way. The planned economy and total deficit in the USSR is what the Russian soul yearned for. No wonder more than 60% of the population wants to return to the USSR, the popularity of Stalin is growing. We do not need all these European tsatskis. Let them choke on our officials, all these cars, watches, trips abroad. Not for the Russian soul all this. We have other values ​​!!!!
          1. aleksey980
            aleksey980 29 March 2016 03: 38
            +1
            Quote: Al1977
            I agree with you, overproduction is not our way. The planned economy and the total deficit in the USSR is what the Russian soul yearned for

            lol
            "There is a TV set, move the rostrum,
            So to the prophet - it will be carried for miles.
            He’s not a window, I’m not going to spit out the window,
            It was as if the door to the whole world had been cut open. "
            (c) V.S. Vysotsky.
            Lately, it seems fashionable to rush to extremes
  8. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 28 March 2016 08: 19
    +1
    The sanctions cost the Western states dearly, but they had almost no effect ... only one thing follows from this ... our "potential friends" will simply look for another way ... to put pressure on Russia and infringe on its interests ... with the help of everything collective West and other countries
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 28 March 2016 08: 30
      +2
      Quote: silberwolf88
      The sanctions cost the Western states dearly, but they had almost no effect

      Well, a trifle, which had to spend 200 billion from the reserve fund, to depreciate the ruble twice, so that due to the closure of loans from the west, at least somehow save social programs
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      2. Vitwin
        Vitwin 28 March 2016 08: 55
        +3
        Quote: sa-ag
        Well, a trifle, which is 200 billion

        Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, speaking at a congress of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs, said that the country got rid of oil dependence and began to recover from the “Dutch disease”.

        Joy is what, continuous positive, Knowing his ability to make predictions - I would rather not say it, exactly the opposite is always No.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 28 March 2016 10: 06
          +5
          Quote: Vitwin
          said the country got rid of oil dependence and began to recover from the “Dutch disease”.


          Eeee ... I understood a little nonsense about a needle. And what kind of Dutch disease? My thoughts are probably thinking in the wrong direction. Or Siluanov.
          1. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 10: 12
            +4
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            And what kind of Dutch disease

            This disease is indecent lol
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 28 March 2016 10: 21
              +5
              Quote: PHANTOM-AS
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              And what kind of Dutch disease

              This disease is indecent lol

              Hey. So I’m thinking about what Siluanov put it about.
              1. PHANTOM-AS
                PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 10: 31
                +3
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                Hey. So I’m thinking about what Siluanov put it about.

                Hey Ya! drinks
                This is a parable about how the Dutch discovered oil in the North Sea and therefore the export of Dutch tulips fell sharply, while unemployment in this and related sectors increased - hence the name.
                Voschem, the dependence of the economy on hydrocarbon exports. Voooot.
                1. Vitwin
                  Vitwin 28 March 2016 10: 44
                  +1
                  Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                  Hey Ya!

                  Namesake! I took this quote, to put it mildly, in the "Economics" section here on the site - and it is clear why it was taken out of the brackets and fed with the problems of Ukraine and so on. world (by disabling general comments)
                  Which, if you look, care about last year’s snow.
                  1. PHANTOM-AS
                    PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 10: 51
                    +2
                    Quote: Vitwin
                    Which, if you look, care about last year’s snow.

                    Hi Victor!
                    Mdyayaya, I also looked at the box and was amazed how everything is bad in the world .. but it’s good and even better with us, but to Amer, one hell, soon kapets belay
                    1. Vitwin
                      Vitwin 28 March 2016 11: 10
                      0
                      Quote: PHANTOM-AS
                      Mdyayaya, I also looked at the box and froze

                      So it's great - positive 24 hours a day fellow
                      It’s somehow joyful right away at heart - I stopped at a gas station again in the morning for 50 kopecks and gasoline went up in price, but I do not care, the main thing is that Assad would have been fine fellow and Ukrainians are bad. wink
                      And from this, I’m sharply prettier in my soul and cigarettes were also priced up by 5 rubles, but I don’t care at all - see above laughing
          2. Vitwin
            Vitwin 28 March 2016 10: 33
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            l And what kind of Dutch disease

            He probably tasted the Dutch weed hydroponic, right now he guesses - what he did, and where - in RSPP to people practically engaged in business - I present rzhach in the hall and especially in the smoking room.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 28 March 2016 10: 47
              +6
              Phantom ace drinks
              Well, thank God, I figured it out a little. laughing
              Vitwin.
              I asked you a question yesterday, you did not answer. Fuck Mikhan in the women's company recorded? Have fun? smile
              1. Vitwin
                Vitwin 28 March 2016 11: 29
                0
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                . Fuck Mikhan in the women's company recorded

                MARK in the profile of MIKHAN, and so he stood on the slippery path of the LGBT laughing
                And above I wrote
                neo.
                - he looks like Baikonur - Zhenya rocketman Mozhaiskiy - olginsi laughing
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 28 March 2016 11: 54
                  +5
                  Quote: Vitwin
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  . Fuck Mikhan in the women's company recorded

                  MARK in the profile of MIKHAN, and so he stood on the slippery path of the LGBT laughing
                  And above I wrote
                  neo.
                  - he looks like Baikonur - Zhenya rocketman Mozhaiskiy - olginsi laughing

                  Miihan has many names. And I don’t see this cosmonaut at all. He introduced me to the emergency. crying Offended. laughing
                  1. PHANTOM-AS
                    PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 12: 28
                    +2
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    Miihan has many names.

                    In the world, his name is Vitalik! yes
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 28 March 2016 12: 55
                      +5
                      I know. I wait when he starts talking to himself. It already appears under different names on the same branch. Whatever the child is not amusing ... laughing
                      1. PHANTOM-AS
                        PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 13: 06
                        +3
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I wait when he starts talking to himself.

                        Meehan dude is the Top one, he is Janus, he’s all mona laughing
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        It already appears under different names on the same branch. Whatever the child is not amusing ...
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 28 March 2016 13: 59
                        +4
                        I went over the news, I don’t see him. Not otherwise, also offended. Is he even here? Under which nickname? How can one live without slogans now? fellow
              2. 79807420129
                79807420129 28 March 2016 12: 05
                +5
                Quote: Vitwin
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                . Fuck Mikhan in the women's company recorded

                MARK in the profile of MIKHAN, and so he stood on the slippery path of the LGBT laughing
                And above I wrote
                neo.
                - he looks like Baikonur - Zhenya rocketman Mozhaiskiy - olginsi laughing

                Dear Vitvin, what are you saying to people, huh? Don’t like minus, like plus, but you don’t need to impose your rules, at least someone from the mountain, even Baikanur, even Mikhan, you were sitting at the same table with them, when you yourself Do you like the comments? Do you like the comment, either put a minus or without spread fingers explain what the interlocutor is wrong about. And Baikanur and Mikhan have been on the site for a long time, and you have two days and your fingers are fan, it’s not beautiful. Sorry if I offended you and this is just a wish to you. Regards hi
                1. Vitwin
                  Vitwin 28 March 2016 12: 08
                  0
                  Quote: 79807420129
                  and what are you slandering people about

                  If I need your advice, I will probably ask, but you are teaching your children’s lives, don’t need to rearrange my legs - am I already a big kid OK?
                  And where in the rules is it written about the number of accs? read refresh knowledge.
                  Does a person calmly recognize who he is and all the rules?
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                3. Manul
                  Manul 29 March 2016 00: 43
                  -2
                  Quote: 79807420129
                  Dear Vitvin, what are you saying to people, huh? Don’t like minus, like plus, but you don’t need to impose your rules, at least someone from the mountain, even Baikanur, even Mikhan, you were sitting at the same table with them, when you yourself Do you like the comments? Do you like the comment, either put a minus or without spread fingers explain what the interlocutor is wrong about. And Baikanur and Mikhan have been on the site for a long time, and you have two days and your fingers are fan, it’s not beautiful. Sorry if I offended you and this is just a wish to you. Regards

                  Plus, support! hi
        2. Amurets
          Amurets 28 March 2016 11: 45
          +3
          Quote: Mordvin 3

          Eeee ... I understood a little nonsense about a needle. And what kind of Dutch disease? My thoughts are probably thinking in the wrong direction. Or Siluanov.

          So our financiers are raving about it, probably picked it up, but a link about this disease is available.
          http://fb.ru/article/36075/gollandskaya-bolezn-interesneyshiy-fenomen-v-mejdunar
          odnoy-ekonomike
  9. Al1977
    Al1977 28 March 2016 11: 31
    +5
    Quote: silberwolf88
    Sanctions cost Western countries dearly

    So it was calculated on this, this is the trick of Putin's plan.
    Europe is on the verge of collapse, the US is in crisis, and Russia, under the strict guidance of the BB, is changing and gaining momentum! Come on Vladimir Vladimirovich, keep it up!
  10. Al1977
    Al1977 28 March 2016 11: 31
    +2
    Quote: silberwolf88
    Sanctions cost Western countries dearly

    So it was calculated on this, this is the trick of Putin's plan.
    Europe is on the verge of collapse, the US is in crisis, and Russia, under the strict guidance of the BB, is changing and gaining momentum! Come on Vladimir Vladimirovich, keep it up!
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 12: 14
      +2
      Quote: Al1977
      So it was calculated on this, this is the trick of Putin's plan.
      Europe is on the verge of collapse, the US is in crisis, and Russia, under the strict guidance of the BB, is changing and gaining momentum! Come on Vladimir Vladimirovich, keep it up!

      are you joking? wink
      1. Vitwin
        Vitwin 28 March 2016 12: 52
        +2
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        are you joking?

        Do not decrypt comrade drinks
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  11. Al1977
    Al1977 28 March 2016 12: 51
    +2
    Quote: silberwolf88
    The sanctions cost the Western states dearly, but they had almost no effect ... only one thing follows from this ... our "potential friends" will simply look for another way ... to put pressure on Russia and infringe on its interests ... with the help of everything collective West and other countries

    I share your concern and consider it necessary to increase funding for the military-industrial complex, only a strong state is able to withstand them !!!
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 28 March 2016 08: 20
    +2
    I have a similar opinion.
  • Hannibal Lecter
    Hannibal Lecter 28 March 2016 08: 23
    0
    We always lived under sanctions before joining the WTO. Now there are even fewer of them than before, until the cancellation of the Jackson-Vanik amendment if memory serves. There is more positive news - the engines for helicopters themselves began to be done without Ukrainians, in the 17th we will start for corvettes, we started to produce the Elbrus 40 processor nano 4. Only what I remembered, and so I think the list would take AXNUMX format.
    1. Vitwin
      Vitwin 28 March 2016 09: 52
      -1
      Quote: hannibal lecter
      We always lived under sanctions before joining the WTO. Now there are even fewer of them than before, until the cancellation of the Jackson-Vanik amendment if memory serves. There is more positive news - the engines for helicopters themselves began to be done without Ukrainians, in the 17th we will start for corvettes, we started to produce the Elbrus 40 processor nano 4. Only what I remembered, and so I think the list would take AXNUMX format.

      Direct reporting from Savushkino (olgino)?
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 28 March 2016 08: 25
    +1
    Sanctions benefit the development of the national economy of Russia.
    Although there are undoubted disadvantages.
    Therefore, any development will be in Russia's favor.
  • artem6
    artem6 28 March 2016 08: 28
    +1
    USA benchmark for a totalitarian state
    1. Vitwin
      Vitwin 28 March 2016 10: 37
      +1
      Quote: artem6
      USA benchmark for a totalitarian state

      You better about your homeland - worry about Russia.
      Is there another "official" patriot who cares more about Ukraine, Syria, etc. than about affairs in his own country?
      1. Al1977
        Al1977 28 March 2016 11: 58
        +4
        Quote: Vitwin
        Quote: artem6
        USA benchmark for a totalitarian state

        You better about your homeland - worry about Russia.
        Is there another "official" patriot who cares more about Ukraine, Syria, etc. than about affairs in his own country?

        But how not to worry when they want to weaken, crush and dismember us. Ukraine-Syria links of one chain to strengthen the hegemony of the West. Without responding to external threats, it is impossible to establish internal affairs.
        1. Vitwin
          Vitwin 28 March 2016 13: 03
          +1
          Quote: Al1977
          Without responding to external threats, it is impossible to establish internal affairs.

          Yes, yes, GDP works at distant approaches, completely at distant ones, the enemy will not pass!
          In secret, I’ll tell you, they will soon smell Yellowstone volcano and then we can only defeat China and we are the best in the world!
  • Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 28 March 2016 08: 29
    +1
    We will endure further ... I would like our government to endure with us too ... otherwise the people are poorer and poorer, it suffers, so to speak, and these ... rulers are getting fat and getting fat. The salaries of the Duma members are cut back, the government and effective managers too- let them endure with us! hi
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 28 March 2016 12: 37
      +3
      Quote: Vyacheslav73
      We will endure further ... I would like our government to endure with us too ... otherwise the people are poorer and poorer, it suffers, so to speak, and these ... rulers are getting fat and getting fat. The salaries of the Duma members are cut back, the government and effective managers too- let them endure with us! hi

      I don’t understand why they still need huge salaries, about 800 tr for ministers and 350 tr each (in addition to privileges) to deputies. Plus for the fact that the term is reduced this year, gold parachutes.
      Is their work more responsible than the work of a doctor? scientist? teachers. They themselves are appointed at our expense. Equate their salary to the salary of the teacher and immediately wake up concern for the people. Dormaids, they’re sitting, they don’t do nichrome, only business is lobbying for wives. To the wall would be all of them!
  • Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 28 March 2016 08: 30
    +2
    Has it not come time for two years to take sanctions, as a given, and stop talking about it? Or admit that the sanctions are painful enough, so we react so joyfully to anyone sneezing towards the lifting of sanctions. In my opinion, silence on this issue is our best position. The West imposed sanctions, and he canceled them. Our task is active development under the conditions of sanctions. Only then can we have hope for their lifting when the sanctions become useless.
  • kvampaku
    kvampaku 28 March 2016 08: 30
    +1
    We would have to raise our agriculture against the background of these sanctions. Products, like oil, are an excellent source of income for the state.
  • Vyacheslav73
    Vyacheslav73 28 March 2016 08: 32
    +1
    Quote: parusnik
    Here is no need to scare .. Cancel the sanctions .. smile

    Right! When you start talking about this, you need to take a pause to answer, noooooo, no, we’ve got used to it, because we have IMPORT SUBSTITUTION ... laughing
  • Papapg
    Papapg 28 March 2016 08: 32
    +4
    We survived the devastation - we will survive and abundance. Do not remove sanctions, in no case remove! We must raise our country, and not our enemies, yes, it is the ENEMIES !!!
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 28 March 2016 13: 38
      +1
      Quote: Papapg
      We survived the devastation - we will survive and abundance. Do not remove sanctions, in no case remove! We must raise our country, and not our enemies, yes, it is the ENEMIES !!!

      If you don’t need abundance, then you don’t need to speak for all the people .. He experienced abundance ... Ask pensioners and state employees in the provinces how they live in "abundance".
      Provocateur, go to the censor write !!!!
  • Papapg
    Papapg 28 March 2016 08: 35
    0
    At the expense of the Crimea, we don’t need someone else’s, we would have to return our own.
  • kirgudu
    kirgudu 28 March 2016 08: 37
    +1
    It is possible that something will change after the elections in the United States, but the chances are extremely small.
    And the less we depend on others, the better we are.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 28 March 2016 08: 38
    +1
    Europeans "spent a lot, but did not achieve anything." US and EU only “Reinforce a failed policy”.

    It seems to everyone in the west that everything is clear, but no. With the tenacity of a shabby donkey, they are trying to bend their line. The main thing is not to give in to their requests and not to make concessions in mitigating the response.
  • qwert111
    qwert111 28 March 2016 08: 43
    +2
    With the sanctions, Europe did not guess, with the terrorists Europe did not guess, so let them drag themselves further. I personally had great doubts about the civilization and the presence of brains among the leaders of the European Union, but duplicity and dishonesty, like a dough made from yeast, come from these people.
    All right said Lavrov:
    - “Business as usual”, when they tried to impose agreements on Russia, taking into account primarily the interests of either the EU or the USA, there will be no more. “A story begins that can develop only on the basis of equality and all other principles of international law”
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 March 2016 09: 01
    +3
    Sanctions are sanctions, but their violation must be punished severely in spite of positions and surnames; for officials, the minimum dismissal and prohibition of returning to the civil service and the fine is enormous; for businessmen, a fine equal to half the annual turnover of his company, as a rule, this is a collapse.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 28 March 2016 09: 35
      +5
      Quote: Ros 56
      Sanctions are sanctions, but their violation must be punished severely in spite of positions and surnames; for officials, the minimum dismissal and prohibition of returning to the civil service and the fine is enormous; for businessmen, a fine equal to half the annual turnover of his company, as a rule, this is a collapse.

      I agree, he ate an enemy cheese, betrayed his homeland. Stalin would put things in order ... The Russian land will still freak a true leader, not these liberals.
      1. Vitwin
        Vitwin 28 March 2016 11: 51
        +1
        Quote: Al1977
        I agree, he ate an enemy cheese, betrayed his homeland.

        I confess right away - the Motherland will forgive, in the morning I betrayed the Motherland - I ate his damned and drank imported coffee, why should I give it ........... crying
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        2. Al1977
          Al1977 28 March 2016 14: 29
          +2
          Quote: Vitwin
          Quote: Al1977
          I agree, he ate an enemy cheese, betrayed his homeland.

          I confess right away - the Motherland will forgive, in the morning I betrayed the Motherland - I ate his damned and drank imported coffee, why should I give it ........... crying

          Oh, comrade, the body woke up, but no conscience?))))
          There are also our cheeses .. in them, however, when they do, sometimes the chumps bathe, but so is their own. And they had to drink Vyatka kvass. Kvass is our everything !!!!
  • Senior manager
    Senior manager 28 March 2016 09: 05
    +2
    The West has cornered itself. Everyone knows, except for Fashington, sanctions must be lifted, and no one knows how to do this without losing face. A powerful propaganda campaign against Russia has been carried out, the western people now know how dangerous and unpredictable Putin is, and when the sanctions are lifted, any thinking people will have two questions: we were brazenly deceived, we are ruled by deceivers and fools. The stupidity of the situation lies in the inability in the changed conditions to correct their actions, and even better to calculate the consequences of the measures taken for the future. Unterofitsersky relatives. Quote from Lavrov.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 28 March 2016 09: 35
      +2
      Yes, they have no future, there are migrants. This fucking European Union can no longer be humiliated, it has already been humiliated to the highest degree. Judge for yourself, in the capital of the European Union in the center, where they make all decisions, they were shown that they were nobody and there was no way to call them. If these squalor at home cannot do anything, where can they go to the international arena, they signed their own worthlessness. It just doesn’t reach them yet, they have atrophy of the brain, they live and make decisions by inertia.
      And they bark at us by inertia, not realizing that in case of conflict they will lose.
    2. Al1977
      Al1977 28 March 2016 14: 50
      +2
      Quote: St. Propulsion
      The West has cornered itself. Everyone knows, except for Fashington, sanctions must be lifted,

      We will not allow Fashington to lift the sanctions and will do everything possible to keep them! Since we have driven the rat into a corner, we will press the reptile !!!
  • hartlend
    hartlend 28 March 2016 09: 08
    +3
    How much you can procrastinate about the same thing has already been written-rewritten. Sanctions have not yet been lifted, and when they decide to cancel, will this make sense?
  • Stiletto
    Stiletto 28 March 2016 09: 29
    +3
    I demand an extension of the sanctions! Just started to appear in stores, but instead of cotton-wool Polish apples with my native Krasnodar "Antonovka" I spent the winter in pleasure, and cancel ?! We have problems, as it was rightly noted here, due to the fact that someone's "oil needle" is firmly rooted in the ass, and these sanctions are not only for us ... um, belt, but they are useful to us, no matter how twist it!
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 28 March 2016 12: 11
      +2
      Quote: Stiletto
      I demand an extension of sanctions!

      The most acute problems of the Russian Federation, according to Russians, are rising prices (77%), poverty / impoverishment of the majority of the population (49%) and rising unemployment (43%), the Levada Center told Interfax.
      Scared a hedgehog with a bare ass.
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      2. Vitwin
        Vitwin 28 March 2016 12: 17
        +1
        Quote: Al1977
        The most acute problems of the Russian Federation,

        Break through! In the war it was worse that we survived, we tighten our belts more tightly - we will drop all bad habits and defeat the sim!
        1. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 28 March 2016 12: 22
          +1
          Quote: Vitwin
          , we tighten our belts tightly - we will drop all bad habits and defeat the sim!

          soon the wild garlic will go if excise taxes are not imposed on it, just break through yes
          1. Vitwin
            Vitwin 28 March 2016 12: 27
            +3
            Quote: PHANTOM-AS
            soon the wild garlic will go if excise taxes are not imposed on it, just break through

            Exactly, and there is a berry - a strawberry, then potato with cucumbers, and you can set traps in the woods, just break through!
            1. Ros 56
              Ros 56 28 March 2016 20: 36
              0
              Yes, we do not have forests, the steppe is hot. But they even manage to grow grapes in orchards. We only buy fresh cabbage in the winter, the rest is all ours.
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        2. Al1977
          Al1977 28 March 2016 12: 39
          +2
          Break through! In the war it was worse that we survived, we tighten our belts more tightly - we will drop all bad habits and defeat the sim!

          I’m talking about that, not a single Western scum will trample us! Not such a break!
      3. Manul
        Manul 29 March 2016 00: 51
        -2
        Quote: Al1977
        The most acute problems of the Russian Federation, according to Russians, are rising prices (77%), poverty / impoverishment of the majority of the population (49%) and rising unemployment (43%), the Levada Center told Interfax.
        Scared a hedgehog with a bare ass.

        The biggest problem is that we already ate the hedgehogs. There is nothing to eat.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 28 March 2016 09: 56
    +2
    Sanctions will never be lifted, or rather, some will be exchanged for others. The mattress has clearly and long spoken out. Not selling themselves and prohibiting the allies from selling technology, they only delay their inevitable fall. Yes, and only civilians can offer technology. I agree with my colleague who said above. , it makes no sense to procrastinate this topic.
  • Private27
    Private27 28 March 2016 10: 10
    0
    Quote: Bone
    And sanctions do not need to be canceled!
    Still to dispossess officials who do not do nifiga for the country and waiting for oil to rise in price !!!

    Especially mendel and his government. am
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 28 March 2016 10: 17
    0
    I read that sanctions were announced against revolutionary France at the end of the XNUMXth — beginning of the XNUMXth century by almost all European countries !!! It was difficult, but France withstood it.
    There was also economic pressure on the USSR.

    In addition to butter (very tasty), cheeses, turkeys, chicken, river fish, apples, cabbage, etc. Everything is gradually untwisted. A Russian man harnesses for a long time, but goes fast !!!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 28 March 2016 10: 38
      +1
      I want to add: how they didn’t take Polish apples --- the Poles ruined !!! How the Baltic products were abandoned --- prrrrrrr. Balts cry !!! Yes, and in other countries they cried when the apples were buried in the ground! They thrived on our money .Turkey, they say, here too, began to misery due to the lack of our money!
      Let the Russians feed themselves better, and not those who hate Russia !!!
  • Taygerus
    Taygerus 28 March 2016 11: 03
    0
    In no case, I am for the extension and introduction of new sanctions against us, how strange it is to our advantage, industry, defense and import substitution have earned, so to speak, finally paid attention to agriculture, domestic producers, domestic products appeared in stores excellent quality, re-equipment, modernization is in full swing. Of course, there are problems, and without them, it doesn’t happen and not everything is so smooth, but they are gradually being resolved in the working order.
    Gentlemen of the bourgeoisie, I demand to extend the sanctions against Russia for a long, indefinite period, I like our apples more laughing
  • rudesant
    rudesant 28 March 2016 11: 10
    0
    A reference to the original of this article. Can you help me?
  • Sergei 88
    Sergei 88 28 March 2016 11: 41
    +1
    They did not recognize Soviet Russia. Then the Bolsheviks began industrialization, announced concessions, but they ran to admit the race. Our trouble is that you can’t be a little pregnant. Being an overseas factor, part of their financial system and pursuing an independent policy is impossible. Therefore, I I personally don’t really believe in the fierce antagonism of the Kremlin rulers and white gentlemen. For some reason, this looks very much like a divorce.
  • Ramzes33
    Ramzes33 28 March 2016 12: 02
    0
    I do not think that the sanctions will be canceled in the near future. Russia is a self-sufficient country with huge resources. It is good to look around the West, to develop the country, to clean the elite.
    1. Kenneth
      Kenneth 28 March 2016 12: 48
      +2
      For starters, stop calling trash elite.
    2. Kenneth
      Kenneth 28 March 2016 12: 48
      +2
      For starters, stop calling trash elite.
  • Kenneth
    Kenneth 28 March 2016 12: 47
    +4
    As soon as they realize that sanctions bring certain benefits to Russia, they will be immediately canceled. To hurt again :)
  • Victor-M
    Victor-M 28 March 2016 13: 39
    -1
    Western sanctions are Putin’s cunning plan to force Russian oligarchs and officials to begin to develop the Russian economy. wink laughing
  • koshmarik
    koshmarik 28 March 2016 13: 58
    +1
    There are, or are already appearing, sober-minded people in the West. Over time, there will be more and more of them, and time works for us.
    1. Al1977
      Al1977 28 March 2016 14: 28
      +2
      Quote: koshmarik
      There are, or are already appearing, sober-minded people in the West. Over time, there will be more and more of them, and time works for us.

      But where are THERE sober-minded? They all live in Russia. In particular on this site.
      And about the time ... Excuse me, are you going to live forever? Have you opened some tablet and keep quiet?
  • CRASH
    CRASH 28 March 2016 15: 17
    +3
    "What sanctions are for us, we are not afraid of sanctions" GDP said, in fact, sanctions are just a nail in the coffin, our "economy" was dumped by cheap oil.
  • Londa
    Londa 28 March 2016 15: 29
    0
    Fate, in the form of sanctions, gave us a chance to change our domestic policy, develop production, and develop millions of squares of land. Probably everything is not just happening in this life. So you need to learn to live in new conditions.
  • thinker
    thinker 28 March 2016 15: 46
    0
    Finland could become a political model for Ukraine ...

    Rather, Italy, with autonomous regions: Trentino-Alto Adige (Südtirol), official languages ​​(except Italian) German, Ladin. Valle d'Aosta French.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 28 March 2016 15: 47
    +1
    Somehow, gradually, but persistently, we are accustomed to the idea that the only economy with which to compare ours is Ukrainian ruins.
  • sw6513
    sw6513 28 March 2016 17: 16
    0
    It would be better if they didn’t lift these sanctions — nothing will change for the people — prices will not go down, but on the contrary they will increase .. Continuing sanctions may with little probability affect the development of our own production — but this requires interest in producing something — business needs an incentive not the officers and all sorts of beatings (checking) and taxes raised at times.
  • Awaz
    Awaz 28 March 2016 20: 21
    0
    the only plus from sanctions is that Russia can live poorly poorly on its grandmothers and not get into debt. There is no positive special effect. Some industries only benefited from the depreciation of the ruble. The overwhelming majority of the population had no fucking problems. But even those industries that took advantage of the depreciation of the ruble did not greatly help people get rich on this.
    But the problem is not sanctions. The problem is precisely in the weakness of the Russian economy. If the economy was fully developed and tuned, then these sanctions are likely if they inflicted miserable damage (just as the West suffers from this) Yes, they have problems with this, but they are hardly noticeable. In Russia, it was precisely those who were generally not guilty of anything who suffered and those who could be punished - it is unlikely that they had any troubles.
    Unfortunately, the authorities in the Russian Federation do not understand nifig and wait all the time for the lifting of sanctions. They especially do not want to work. They are also trying to solve all the problems at the expense of the common population.
    Sanctions must remain, and this could be forcing the authorities to move and doing something reasonable well and not stop the population from solving their own problems. Probably the West also understands this and soon these sanctions will begin to be lifted. The lifting of sanctions will again lead to the fact that close oligarchs will begin to live in debt and drive us into debt. Here, if you think about it, it doesn’t work out at all. People got into debt under state guarantees and right now the authorities are helping them to get out of debt on our money. If the oligarchs did not have such huge debts in the West, no one would have introduced sanctions. There was no point. Right now, the West is simply pumping money out of Russia, in the most arrogant way ... As soon as the debts are mostly repaid, a new wave of pulling into a new debt hole will begin.
  • Calter
    Calter 28 March 2016 21: 00
    +3
    Quote: PHANTOM-AS
    Sanctions ..., sanctions ... are the same myth as the government's concern for the people. Introduced by a relatively small group of people, these measures were inflated by PR to universal proportions and became a screen for those in power: "Well, this damned West does not allow our economic" geniuses "to work, well, nothing.
    The chatter about pseudo sanctions is already really infuriating, about "heavenly" apples and Parmizan (by the way, these are counter-sanctions). But what would happen if real sanctions were introduced, like against Iran, for example? Or North Korea? Probably a collapse?

    It is high time to create a sect of "sanction witnesses". smile
    I remember that in 2008, loudly, with pathos throughout the country, they announced that the crisis would not affect ordinary people. Because the crisis is only for those who have capital. Those. from entrepreneurs. Moreover, in the case of Russia, entrepreneurs are a narrow stratum of oligarchs who have money for hundreds of lards and who would not be a sin to blow blood. According to this logic, the crisis would even narrow the gap between the rich and the poor (it is true, no one said this in a direct text, at least I have not heard). At the same time, in Europe and America, a significant part of the population is small and medium-sized entrepreneurs, the middle class, and therefore there it will be possible to say that "the crisis has hit the population." And in our country the "middle class" is invisible even under a microscope, and therefore their impoverishment cannot be called a "blow to the population". Remember these tales?
    The second part of the tale was that we have huge gold reserves that can be spent on buying up world assets at bargain prices. Russia, as they said, will emerge from the crisis as an economic giant, while the world's leading economies will be shredded. Beautiful picture, huh?
    But the reality ... China took advantage of the advice of our magicians, while our gold reserves were urgently aimed at rescuing the drowning .... no, not simple mortgages, but ... banks! Yes, yes, precisely those "snickering" moneybags-oligarchs, so that, God forbid, they do not go broke and deprive the people (who will not be hit by the crisis) of jobs and the opportunity to pay for mortgages. Well, the banks decided on crisis management: if the average interest on deposits before the crisis was 12% (Sberbank had 9,5%), now it is 8-10% (Sberbank has dropped up to 4% in general). But really, why pay depositors 10% if the state will give money for a longer period and practically for nothing ?! We have not some poorhouse - capitalism: the strongest survives! Thus, saving money in the bank will no longer work: inflation is higher than interest on deposits. Has it hit the population (most of which are not middle-class and could not make any other, alternative investment - real estate, for example)? I think the question is rhetorical. But what am I all about banks? Other oligarchs also did not deny themselves anything. The wholesale sale of yachts, airplanes, helicopters and overseas villas did not happen, because the owners of our enterprises are not fucking stupid, some of which are understood in the economy. The "optimization" of expenses was carried out en masse: the dismissal of unnecessary employees (more precisely, the "extra" ones, in quotation marks, because the management staff of top managers suffered very insignificantly), the reduction of the "bonus" parts of salaries (which in many industries could compete with salaries) and other delights crisis management. Has it hit the population? I think the question is rhetorical. Well, the rise in prices, tariffs, inflation, and interest on loans, I do not take into account, these enemies of the people's well-being tormented Europe and the Americans (though there they grew from 3% to 5%, but here they exceeded 20%).
  • Calter
    Calter 28 March 2016 21: 00
    +4
    Already in the midst of economic turmoil, some Western rating agency announced that following the results of the past year or two (I don’t remember exactly), Russia was firmly nestled in the list of countries with the MOST INEFFECTIVE ANTI-CRISIS POLICY IN THE WORLD. Western propaganda? Nu-nu. Then we were told that our gold reserves are not so bottomless, and some of them even said from the screen: “This is all nonsense ... At all times of economic turmoil, ALWAYS the rich are rich, and the poor are poorer... In the same 90s, against the background of the impoverishment of the masses, individuals crawled out with billions of dollars, amassed in a couple of years "(the literal part of the quote is highlighted, the rest is conveyed the general meaning of the discussion).
    So what am I doing? When the second part of the Marlezon ballet began, entitled "Sanctions are a blessing, even if we get up from our knees! You give import substitution and a five-year plan at 22 (oh, that is, on the contrary repeat) ", smart people diligently ignored everything. Because somewhere it already happened:" it will not hit the common people "and" we will live even better than before. "The main result of these sanctions is that our enterprises will no longer to be credited abroad for 1-2% per annum, but only from our, native Central Bank, for 10. What do you think, how will such an enterprise survive? Right! Crisis management: lower wages, layoffs, well, higher prices for And the collapse of the ruble will also hang on our neck (after all, Western loans taken earlier must also be repaid, no one introduced moratoriums on these payments (as counter-sanctions, for example, until the ruble regains its position)) On the other On the other hand, the government can still patch the hole in the budget, using all sorts of stabilization funds. But they are also not eternal, which our Ministry of Finance does not get tired of hinting at. And where will the government get money to fill the hole in the budget (and this is about 1-2 trillion annually, in other words , about 10-20 thousand rubles each but every inhabitant of Russia) is not difficult to predict. Can you guess? am
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 28 March 2016 22: 04
    -1
    ex-assistant President

    What kind of "ex" you don’t spit - you will find yourself criticizing the current policy of the authorities. He's an ex, figly won't be promoted, he won't lose it. And for good - they would not have gone to the goat in the crack. In a couple of years, if we live, we will drive them an aspen stake. Sanctions ...))
  • Hecate
    Hecate 28 March 2016 22: 25
    0
    Dismemberment is the U.S. attack on Yugoslavia, with the seizure of territories, the deployment of its military bases. It is no secret that the US puppets appointed by Washington govern the territories separated from Yugoslavia, and their obedience ensures the presence of the largest US military bases in Europe on these territories. Ukraine, this is what in 1654 became part of Russia, within the borders of 1654 and not a centimeter more. Ukraine wanted independence, so let it go within the borders of 1654, in which it became part of Russia. Crimea and other Russia conquered the Ottoman Empire and Ukraine has no relation to these territories.
  • partizan86
    partizan86 28 March 2016 23: 31
    0
    Sanctions have never weakened power in the country against which they are used. Although they quite successfully harm the economy and the population. Proceeding from this, it would be time to equate them to crimes against humanity. Let them introduce themselves against individuals, but against states in general, it is time to stop. This must be accepted by all states. Except in those cases when there is a direct open armed conflict with the state, then the property of the enemy state can be considered trophy. Instead of sanctions, there are a lot of other methods. The goods can suddenly be declared harmful and dangerous, which is done periodically. Or more openly, arrest something. Only no one will go for open measures, with a weighty country.