"Minsk Geneva" or "Geneva Minsk"? Another round of talks on Syria completed

On the eve of Geneva ended another round of negotiations on the settlement of the conflict in Syria. Following the talks, a document was prepared that outlines measures to de-escalate the conflict. This document, some political scientists have already dubbed "Geneva Minsk" or "Minsk Geneva." In it, on behalf of the UN special envoy, Staffan de Mistura, the parties to the conflict are called upon to abandon the continuation of hostilities and transfer exclusively to the political field of interaction in order to work out steps to normalize the situation in the country.

The document calls for the abandonment of any form of support for terrorist groups, including support for financing, as well as arming militant groups. It is somewhat strange that this item in the document is addressed to the Syrian parties to the conflict, because the external "players" provide financial and other support to terrorists. One of these "players" is Turkey, which, which is confirmed by numerous materials, buys oil stolen by igilovs, and at a very low price (around 12 dollars per barrel). Apparently, the call to stop the flirting with terrorists to third countries is only implied, and therefore it is hardly possible to call the document truly serious.

RIA News reports that UN special envoy Staffan de Mistura "was generally satisfied with" the conduct of the next round of talks:

I believe that we were able to pass these two weeks without leaving the negotiations, without drama, without any delegitimation and, possibly, with a document that was not rejected by any of the parties, about the principles of a common understanding. This means that next time we will leave the principles and start a discussion on the political process.

If in the course of the negotiations something positive can be singled out, it is that we really managed to do without the demarches of the Syrian conflict, although, judging by further comments from the Geneva talks from the same Syrian “moderate opposition,” she again does not intend to direct dialogue with official Damascus and continues to use very bellicose rhetoric.

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[V.ic]

Execution cannot be pardoned! Each booger according to his own understanding / m. and unreasonable / commas sets, swelling from one's own micro-grandeur.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: V.ic

Each booger according to his own understanding / m. and unreasonable / commas sets, swelling from one's own micro-grandeur.

Dear, let’s not underestimate the boogers ... We should recall at least the Bolsheviks here. At first, they didn’t have enough people to occupy all the desired objects during the coup. Later, the organization began to grow around its members and, as Comrade Stalin said, opportunists.
And since the Arabs are quite a bustling folk, they will be buzzing for a long time. Sooner or later, any force that breaks out or holds onto power will have to pacify and disarm the country in non-democratic ways.

[V.ic]

Quote: Barkhan

Let’s recall at least the Bolsheviks at our place. At first the people didn’t have enough to occupy all the desired objects during the coup. Later, the organization began to grow into members and, as Comrade Stalin said, opportunists.

Again / again about the Bolsheviks / Communists! During the coup, it was just enough, but to deploy the process of "expropriation of the expropriators" and the war to destroy the "exploiting classes" there was no longer enough "knife and ax workers, romantics from the high road."

[BARKHAN]

Quote: V.ic

Again / again about the Bolsheviks / Communists!

Well, if you are specifically annoyed by the example of the Bolsheviks / Communists, then you can cite a huge number of examples when small groups of "unaccounted for" like-minded people broke the plans of the leading powers, and in general they conquered seemingly unshakable and invincible empires ...
For example, the Mongols of Genghis Khan, the Macedonians Sashkin ...

[Holsten]

"That's what the videoconferencing life-giving does!"

[avvg]

The rounds of talks on Syria in Geneva will be endless, with "moderate opposition" (veiled terrorists), until Assad wins, on the battlefield in Syria.

[inkass_98]

The next meeting of the PPR - they sat, Potryndely (to put it mildly), dispersed.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: inkass_98

The next meeting of the PPR - they sat, Potryndely (to put it mildly), dispersed.

Yeah, like the USA-RF, everything was decided, but you arrange it somehow beautifully.

[L. A. A.]

"Soap opera."

[Kos_kalinki9]

For me, so these Geneva gatherings are more like this bunch of idiots

[aszzz888]

[quote] It is somewhat strange that this paragraph in the document is addressed to the Syrian parties to the conflict, because financial and other support to terrorists is provided by external “players.” [quote]
Again they try to play with one goal. How already these tricks got! And in the open field they will not sit down to the wind, without their own profit!

[Mountain shooter]

Only when the barmaleevs are driven to Iraq and to Allah, the negotiation process will really start. Too motley team is an "opposition", and there are no Kurds in the crowd. In the meantime, this is not even a rapprochement of positions, but a dimension ... who has a longer ... Language.

[saltickov.]

Yes, such a type said a truce, he immediately listened and agreed. The question begs, but what was silent before.

[avg-mgn]

The "moderate opposition" again does not intend to engage in direct dialogue with official Damascus and continues to use very militant rhetoric.

Here our pressure is not enough. I absolutely do not understand the tacitly compromising position of the countries of the "coalition" trying only about Assad's resignation. After all, two bells in Europe have already rang, after the third - the beginning of the performance and, possibly, with the participation of members of this "moderate".

[Blondy]

Well, it’s good, let them talk, but for those who don’t fit into the desired trend, the non-core VKS, together with the Syrian army, corresponding to the amount of work will lead to a common denominator. All the same, the main thing was achieved earlier - the terms of the armistice were correctly stipulated.

[Landwarrior]

"Moderate opposition", she again does not intend to engage in direct dialogue with official Damascus and continues to use very militant rhetoric.

"What else do you want? It's not difficult for us!" (c) VKS RF

[rotmistr60]

... financial and other support to terrorists is provided by external "players"

Americans cannot go against themselves and their allies even on paper that is written not to understand for whom. Until Turkey and the SA stop their "affairs" there will be no sense, how many do not sign various documents.

[dchegrinec]

You can always agree on the condition that if you want to. And if not, then there will be a lot of pretexts for inconsistencies and reproaches.

[Masya masya]

"The document calls for the refusal of any form of support for terrorist groups, including financial support, as well as the arming of militant groups.", He calls on to call, but who will listen to it? Turkey and not only will not voluntarily refuse ...

[vobels]

".. UN Special Envoy Staffan de Mistura" was generally satisfied ".." Well, at least one person was satisfied. And so, they stuck a long-playing chewing gum for everyone. Let's see how long it lasts.

[Ros 56]

Well, let these warlike people run around the earth, and ours will count, minus one, minus two, and the Syrian army will count tenths and so on until it runs out, then again at the negotiating table, only without violent ones. Otherwise, they were convinced by banderlogy.

[Vega]

The main thing from the negotiations is that they took place, some decisions were made, and not that the decisions are formal. Maybe some in the brain will clear up even a little?

[afrikanez]

It is not clear why to get together and talk in order to make such absurd decisions. After all, it’s clear that until the IS is destroyed, nothing really can be achieved. The Turks, as they bought oil and helped the militants in every possible way, will continue to help and buy. I wonder who will hold the answer for all this? I hope not Russia.