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Syria: Russian Thunder

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When last week Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded military men especially distinguished in Syria in the Kremlin, very few people knew that Colonel General Alexander Dvornikov was awarded the title of Hero of Russia for almost half a year commanding our military group in this Arab country.

Previously, the name of the military commander holding the post of first deputy chief of staff of the Central Military District was never mentioned in connection with an air and, moreover, ground operation against terrorists. And only a narrow circle of people was aware that the Janitors had been sent to Syria, where they were leading our units and coordinating their interaction with local government forces.

The details of many combat operations, developed and carried out under the command of Dvornikov, are still classified. But the general for the first time told about some events of his Syrian business trip in an exclusive interview with Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

Alexander Vladimirovich, let us recall what was going on in Syria at the time of the Russian military contingent entering there.

Alexander Dvornikov: The group of Russian troops headed by me arrived in the Syrian Arab Republic last September with a task on the spot to deal with the current situation and the state of the Syrian army.

I can say one thing: the situation at that time was clearly not in favor of Damascus. The terrorists, whose total number was over 60 thousand people, occupied about 70 percent of the territory of Syria. Gangs captured the largest cities of Idlib, Palmyra and Rakku.

The terrorists controlled most of the suburbs of Homs and Damascus, led a large-scale offensive in the province of Lattakia, prepared the encirclement and the capture of Aleppo. And the key route for Syria, Damascus-Aleppo, connecting the south and north of the country, was under the constant threat of blocking by militants.

In addition, government troops were exhausted over the four years of hostilities and with great difficulty restrained the onslaught of terrorists. The population massively left the country.

And what do we have now? What are the results of the military work of our military in Syria?

Alexander Dvornikov: The actions of the Russian group for five and a half months radically turned the tide in Syria.

The basis for the success of the military operation against terrorists was the coordinated work of the Russian aviation in the air with units of government and patriotic forces on earth. To increase their combat capabilities in the framework of military-technical assistance, we have supplied the Syrian army with modern weapons and military equipment. These are artillery systems, communications, intelligence, etc.

In the shortest possible time, a system of military advisers with their administrative apparatus was created in the Syrian armed forces. They successfully solved the task of preparing government troops, Kurdish and other patriotic formations. The situation was also positively affected by the fact that our advisers took an active part in the preparation of military operations.

This joint work allowed to destroy the infrastructure and supply chains of terrorists, to seize the initiative and move to offensive actions. And they were conducted simultaneously on 15 directions. This forced the militants to abandon large offensive operations and move to action in small groups.

It is equally important that the successful actions against the bandits inspired the Syrian people. The Syrians understood that the ISIL and Jabhad al-Nusra fighters (terrorist organizations banned in Russia. - Note RG) can be beaten and conquered.

In addition, a volunteer movement was born in Syrian society, volunteer brigades and battalions were formed. Today, several thousand people are already fighting against militants in Syria.

The indicative evidence that the patience of the people of Syria has dried up was the expulsion of the "Jebhad al-Nusra" bandits from a number of settlements in the central and southern provinces of the country by ordinary citizens.

Despite the differences with the authorities in Damascus, the Syrian Kurds took an active part in the fight against terrorists in the north of the country. They are still continuing to fight against ISIS and Dzhebhad en-Nusra.

That is, all segments of the population of Syria rose up to fight?

Alexander Dvornikov: Exactly. The war against terrorists has acquired a truly national character. And the situation on the fronts has radically changed. Moreover, volunteer detachments played a special role in active offensive operations.

And taking control of key areas in the north-east of Aleppo province seriously complicated the supply of militants and the transfer of reinforcements from Turkey through the corridor between Jerablus and Azaz. This created the conditions for the defeat of ISIS north of Aleppo.

What do we have now? The Quaires air base and a number of settlements that have been under siege by terrorists for more than three years have been released. Militants finally knocked out of the province of Latakia. Coastal areas in which a large part of Syria’s population is concentrated have been cleansed of terrorists.

In the east of Syria, Palmyra was blocked, fighting continues to liberate it. The capture of this city, which has a special for Syria historical and geographic significance, actually dissecting the ISIS grouping into two parts and opening the road to Rakku and Deir ez-Zor, creating the conditions for exit and taking control of the border with Iraq.

In addition, control over three large oil and gas fields, which were previously a source of income for terrorists, was restored.

The reports of the Ministry of Defense often contain the names of a number of Syrian provinces - Hama, Homs and Damascus. What is happening there now?

Alexander Dvornikov: These provinces are located in the central part of the country. And most of them are cleared of illegal armed groups. There is now the most active process of reconciliation. From a military point of view, it is very important that the largest routes in Syria are taken under the control of government forces.

Generally speaking, during the military operation, Syrian troops, with air support, liberated 400 settlements. The potential of terrorist groups has more than doubled, they have lost the initiative, and the territory they control is reduced by 10 thousand square kilometers.

Do not forget that about two thousand terrorists - immigrants from Russia were killed on the territory of Syria. Of these, 17 warlords. These preventive measures against the militants are a kind of guarantee of the security of our state and Russian citizens.


This picture was made by the correspondent of the WG at Hmeimim airbase. Alexander Dvornikov (in the first row - the extreme right), along with our and Syrian generals, escorts the Russian servicemen flying away to their homeland. Photo: Ivan Egorov / RGV Syria, the commander rarely got into the camera lens. Photo: Ivan Egorov / RGFoto: Ivan Egorov / RG


A very important result of the military operation, in my opinion, is the increased morale of the Syrian people in general and government troops in particular. A possible collapse of the country has been prevented.

The actions of the Russian army in Syria put "on the ears" not only Western politicians, but also their special services. They perceived the redeployment of our aviation group at the Khmeimim airfield as a bolt from the blue. The same sudden, I would say swift, was the return of people and equipment to their homeland. How was this achieved?

Alexander Dvornikov: Thanks to sudden checks of combat readiness, our Armed Forces have repeatedly worked out the transfer of significant military formations over long distances.

Therefore, when an order was received to deploy a grouping in Syria, it, as expected, was executed accurately and as soon as possible. Its all-round support from the territory of the Russian Federation was also quickly and effectively adjusted.

The main burden in this lay on the military transport aviation and the Navy. Since September, more than 640 aircraft cruises and more than 80 maritime flights have been completed.

And the appearance of modern modular constructions in our army allowed literally in just a few days to deploy all the necessary infrastructure at the Khmeimim airfield, from the facilities of the aerodrome and technical equipment, residential and administrative premises to the dining rooms and showers.

Almost half a year before your eyes unfolded dramatic events in Syria. Now there is hope for a peaceful settlement of the conflict in this country. How do you rate this perspective?


Alexander Dvornikov: You probably know that the work of the Reconciliation Center is organized on the territory of Khmeymim airbase. More than 60 Russian officers work there, and most of them are distributed across the provinces. Despite the recorded violations, the cessation of hostilities in Syria is generally respected. The reconciliation process is most active in the provinces of Hama and Homs. We hope that in the near future in these areas the fighting will cease completely.

The main thing is that the truce process continues. At the time of my departure from Syria, 43 of the armed forces agreed with the terms of the cessation of hostilities, and the agreement on reconciliation was signed by the elders of 51 of the settlement. Their number is growing every day.

At the same time, the Turkish military forces of the Kurdish formations fighting against the Dzhebhat al-Nusra terrorists in the north of the province of Aleppo are worried about the shelling. These actions actually mean Ankara’s support of the bandit groups that are trying to disrupt the reconciliation process in Syria.

There is a question that has been discussed since the moment our military was sent to Syria. Did they participate in a ground operation?

Alexander Dvornikov: Our military advisers worked and work at all levels, including at the tactical level. These officers assist Syrian colleagues in planning and conducting combat operations against terrorists, as well as in mastering Russian military equipment.

I will not hide the fact that units of our Special Operations Forces are operating in Syria. They carry out additional exploration of targets for strikes by Russian aviation, are engaged in guiding planes at targets in remote areas, and solving other special tasks.

But it must be borne in mind that in Syria perform various tasks and similar units of the US armed forces, other coalition states.

Now the media talk a lot about which units will remain in Syria after the withdrawal of the main part of the Russian group. Can you clarify this issue?

Alexander Dvornikov: I will not enumerate the whole group to the last soldier and aircraft. I will say this: in Syria, the required number of forces will remain to ensure control over the observance of the cessation of hostilities. And also for the safe operation of our aviation operations center at Hmeimim and the logistics station of the Russian Navy in Tartus.

Business card

Alexander Vladimirovich Dvornikov was born on August 22 1961 of the year in Ussuriysk, Primorsky Territory.

He graduated from the Ussuriysk Suvorov Military School (1978 g.), Moscow Higher All-Arms Command School named. Supreme Council of the RSFSR (1982 g.), Military Academy. Mv Frunze (1991 g.) And the Military Academy of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (2005 g.).

He served in the Far Eastern Military District as a platoon, company commander, battalion chief of staff. In the Western Group of Forces he held the position of deputy, and then commander of a motorized rifle battalion.

In 1995 - 2000, he was regimental chief of staff, regiment commander in the Moscow Military District. In 2000 - 2003 he served in the North Caucasus Military District as Chief of Staff of the Division, and then Commander of the Division.

In 2005, he was appointed deputy commander of an alliance, later chief of staff of an alliance in the Siberian Military District, commander of an alliance (Fifth Red Banner All-Arms Army) in the Far Eastern Military District (2008 - 2010).

In 2011 - 2012 - Deputy Commander of the Eastern Military District. Since April, 2012, Chief of Staff - First Deputy Commander of the Central Military District. Colonel General.

hot spot

160 more soldiers and officers from the Russian group of troops in Syria returned to their homeland. First, the Il-76 military transport aircraft forwarded them from the Khmeimim airbase to Novosibirsk Tolmachevo Airport. Then the servicemen reached the garrison of Yurga in the Kemerovo region by vehicles.

According to the press service of the Central Military District, all soldiers and officers who have returned home serve in the Central Military District logistics brigade. In Syria, they filled the aircraft with fuel and lubricants, supplied the military with food at the Khmeimim airbase, provided them with bath-and-laundry services, serviced and repaired the airfield facilities. In addition, these specialists delivered various cargoes from the logistics station of our Navy in Tartus to the Russian air base in the province of Lattakia.

According to the press service of the Central Military District, a total of the Yurga brigade sent more than 200 troops to Syria.

Yesterday, the An-124 Ruslan military transport aircraft flew from Hmeimim to Russia. According to some information, he delivered three Mi-35 helicopters and various equipment to the place of permanent deployment. In Syria, the crews of the "thirty-fifths" mainly guarded the Russian airbase from the air.
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  1. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 25 March 2016 22: 01
    +50
    Well, I can only say one thing: the esteemed Colonel-General received the "Gold Star" soldier
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 25 March 2016 22: 13
      +23
      My year of birth. Suvorov in Ussuriysk. But the boys probably met. I often came to Ussuriysk in Suvorovskoye to a friend. He was in 1976 after graduating from eight classes of a secondary school in Susuman, Magadan Region, he entered this school.
      How the years go by ...
      And I sincerely congratulate Alexander Vladimirovich with a high award.
    2. Edvagan
      Edvagan 25 March 2016 22: 21
      +52
      after generations of parquet generals, the presence of a certain number of military generals who can manage troops in modern conditions is worth a lot. A good general is piece goods.
      1. Pravdarm
        Pravdarm 25 March 2016 22: 29
        +13
        Quote: Edvagan
        A good general is piece goods.

        Professional with a Capital Letter!
        Organized
        coordinated work of Russian aviation in the air with units of government and patriotic forces on the ground.

        Under his command and competent guidance
        In the shortest possible time, a system of military advisers was created in the Syrian armed forces with its own administrative apparatus. They successfully solved the problem.

        As the saying goes: "Veni, vidi, vici" - "Came, saw, won"
        (figuratively!) I understand that the victory is not yet, but I hope that the end is nearing!
        And the beginning of the end is the merit of Colonel-General Alexander Dvornikov!
        Congratulations on the honored title of Hero of Russia!
        Good health, I wish!
        I have the honor! soldier
      2. ASK505
        ASK505 25 March 2016 22: 51
        +4
        Quote: Edvagan
        A good general is piece goods.


        Everything is correct. This is how life is arranged. Any good specialist in any field - piece goods. Just do not always understand this.
      3. Maj.
        Maj. 25 March 2016 23: 36
        0
        the word commodity is not appropriate and insulting for a person, and even more so, really a hero. You should apologize edvagan
    3. tol100v
      tol100v 25 March 2016 22: 23
      +5
      Quote: nazar_0753
      Well, I can only say one thing

      All participants of this business trip have earned the respect of the people and awards!
  2. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 25 March 2016 22: 03
    +9
    Russian thunder, a romantic name for a military operation! Well done, showed the whole world the strength of the Russian spirit
    1. Mobius
      Mobius 25 March 2016 22: 20
      +5
      Quote: seregatara1969
      Russian thunder-romantic name for military operation


      Tea is not "Citadel" what yes ...
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 26 March 2016 07: 53
        +3
        Russian thunder.

        I love spring in early May
        How shibanet because of the barn ...
  3. Hauptam
    Hauptam 25 March 2016 22: 03
    +6
    Fight not by number but by skill the great A.V. Suvorov, have not yet forgotten the "miracle heroes".
  4. aba
    aba 25 March 2016 22: 05
    +4
    Thanks to sudden combat readiness checks, our Armed Forces have repeatedly worked out the transfer of significant military formations over long distances.

    So, if necessary, a new introductory will be successfully solved!
    Well, I would also like to say only one word about Colonel General Alexander Dvornikov himself - a WARRIOR!
  5. qwert111
    qwert111 25 March 2016 22: 22
    +14
    The news said that an officer from the special forces unit was killed. operations. He fought to the last until he was surrounded, then called fire on himself. Condolences to the near and dear ones and may you rest in peace, true son and hero of Russia!
    1. vv3
      vv3 25 March 2016 22: 59
      -10%
      The sad news, needless to say ... But I’ll take a chance, I’ll get a bunch of minuses, but the matter is more important, the cause for which the hero died .. Do you speak of a modern war ?! New army, new equipment, new methods of warfare ... Corrector of fire on enemy territory , this is in the presence of UAVs, reconnaissance aircraft, satellite reconnaissance, airships, probes, video cameras ....
      Here you are, words are not enough, a complete ... obzats. Modern army. One window dressing ... Nothing, stupid as in 41 ... We can do nothing, only heroes save ... And how much aplomb, what we are .. Does it mean in the old way to send a platoon of heroes to death to determine the coordinates of the target, then to hit this target in a new way with an ultra-modern caliber ?! And every bureaucrat on the table has a photograph of a hero with a black stripe and an inscription, so that he knows that he will answer for every stolen ruble, and let him just say: "I didn't send him there !!!"
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 25 March 2016 23: 12
        +9
        Quote: vv3
        A fire corrector on enemy territory, in the presence of UAVs, reconnaissance aircraft, satellite reconnaissance

        I think in this sense nothing will change. Yes, a lot of new equipment has appeared, but the car is a car. That is, all these intelligence tools are certainly needed, but in particularly difficult cases, the personal participation of a person can not be replaced with anything.
      2. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 25 March 2016 23: 37
        +7
        Quote: vv3
        Talk about a modern war ?! A new army, a new technique, new methods of warfare ... A fire corrector on enemy territory, if there are UAVs, reconnaissance aircraft, satellite reconnaissance, airships, probes, video cameras ....

        It is impossible to do without people "on the ground" even with modern types of intelligence. Fill the whole sky with drones, they will not distinguish an armed man, one of their own from a stranger. It's one thing when you have your own and all other enemies. It's another matter when there are a bunch of armed formations, and it is not clear who is for whom.
        Quote: vv3
        There you have it, words are missing, complete ... obzats. Modern army. One window dressing ... There is nothing, it’s stupid as in 41 ... We don’t know how

        It's the opposite. As in the 41st, it’s possible just with drones, and without reconnaissance, simply destroying ALL who have weapons in their hands. In modern warfare, this will not work, since there is the concept of friendly fire. Only in the zone of responsibility of the Russian air forces are more than 100 armed groups, half are allies, half are enemies.
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      4. Maj.
        Maj. 25 March 2016 23: 38
        -12%
        unfortunately you are right vvv3
      5. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 25 March 2016 23: 54
        +12
        Quote: vv3
        Talk about a modern war ?! A new army, new equipment, new methods of warfare ... A fire corrector in enemy territory, if there are UAVs, reconnaissance aircraft, satellite reconnaissance, airships, probes, video cameras ..

        we are fighting as we know how and not for you to teach us with the Ukrainian flag.
        at the beginning of the operation, I think the task was set - weddings and hospitals do not bomb.
        even the columns of oil-filled bottles were not immediately leveled with the ground, but first they threw the leaflets or passed over the column waving their "wings" and only then ...
        and about the spotters, I think one of the tasks was to confirm the absence of civilians (women and children)
        and strengthen the areas where there to adjust request - sprinkled with chalk (Alyosha, sprinkle him with chalk - I am moving his club!) - and "hum"
        ========
        on courage, one can say they are already "celebrating" the capture of Palmyra
        fresh video - somewhere near Palmyra

        and map
        1. Mobius
          Mobius 26 March 2016 08: 04
          +2
          Quote: Dryuya2
          we are fighting as we know how and not for you to teach us with the Ukrainian flag.

          It's not about flags. Individual shots "wet the crusts" and regardless of national affiliation.

          Although, given the flagrant inability of just the UKRAINIAN army, to take into account and apply the experience of others, also indicates their level.
          1. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 26 March 2016 08: 15
            +1
            Quote: Möbius
            It’s not a matter of flags. ...

            I agree completely - broke. hi
      6. alexej123
        alexej123 26 March 2016 10: 35
        +1
        Are you for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, boilers Ilovaiskie, Debaltsevo, etc. Yes, you are right, some bravura marches. Or have you seen enough films like "Ender's Game" and think that everyone is fighting on tablets and computers, without human intervention? Yes, one special forces soldier died, heroically died, according to the documents (there is no reason not to believe). This is how they are being prepared for this, so that in extreme cases they will make the only right decision, even if with a mortal risk to their lives. For this I, working and paying taxes, which pay for our army. One died - they gave the Hero of Russia, they did not forget, I think they will help the family. Look better at your army, in the thousands, no way. Everything is relative. Compare.
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  6. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 25 March 2016 22: 23
    +14
    Guys! With a capital letter.
  7. vv3
    vv3 25 March 2016 22: 32
    -26%
    In Syria, possessing modern military means in the absence of air resistance and support for the bulk of the population, it was possible to destroy terrorists and help the legitimate authorities take control of the entire territory for a certain period. To do this, 2 dozen modern drones and means of ensuring their work and trained operators . A modern drone not only makes a movie, but immediately determines the coordinates of the target and conducts it at least in semi-automatic mode with the participation of the operator. These coordinates are transmitted continuously to the monitors of weapons, at least in semi-automatic mode with the participation of the operator, and are entered into computer systems. Hurricanes and coalitions or strike air means within the range of which the targets are located destroy them. We do not have such drones, hurricanes and air means. They are more true, but there are no such operating modes, complexes, and as I understand it, so far They are going to do it. By the way, a 5th generation airplane should combine all these functions and give out proven coordinates to weapons in automatic mode. This is the flying informational heart of modern warfare. These are not 5 contrived properties for you ...
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 25 March 2016 22: 41
      +11
      Quote: vv3
      This requires 2 dozens of modern drones and means of ensuring their work and trained operators

      Dear .. you outplayed the tanks, the campaign .. and now you are carrying a fierce heresy ..

      This is so - a stranger's remark is simple. I don’t put you cons request
      1. vv3
        vv3 25 March 2016 23: 04
        -11%
        Not outplayed. And you? This is a small simplified model of modern combat. It is very simply implemented, or rather modeled ... But there are a lot of similar elements ... I never thought ... Try it.
        1. Mobius
          Mobius 25 March 2016 23: 17
          +4
          Quote: vv3
          Not outplayed. And you? This is a small simplified model of modern combat. It is very simply implemented, or rather modeled ... But there are a lot of similar elements ... I never thought ... Try it.


          What a ... strategist, however ... You would have to write military doctrines, and scientific works on the theory of wars in modern conditions.
        2. Cat man null
          Cat man null 25 March 2016 23: 24
          +8
          Quote: vv3
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          you outplayed the tanks
          Not outplayed. And you?

          And I played them for 2 years, 1986 - 1988 yes

          (to himself) Gridasov was not enough .. one more drew sad
          1. Pravdarm
            Pravdarm 25 March 2016 23: 47
            +1
            laughing Credit for Gridasva!
            Yes, Gridasov just picks out the brain, ruthlessly.
            Maybe this is his next (or previous) fractal stage, or how is it better that the fractals do not offend - a degree?

            PS: (Also to myself)
        3. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr 26 March 2016 09: 40
          +1
          Quote: vv3
          This is a small simplified model of modern combat.


          P O L K O V O D E C !!! OFFER YOUR SERVICES ... Maybe they will appreciate ... AND WHILE YOU SIT ON THE SOFA OF THE HOUSE, others risk their lives and are fully faithful to the Oath. You do not understand !!!
      2. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 25 March 2016 23: 46
        -1
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Dear .. you outplayed the tanks, the campaign .. and now you are carrying a fierce heresy ..

        I agree. A friend is either a schoolboy or not adequate ......
        1. vv3
          vv3 26 March 2016 01: 10
          -6
          Comrades speak essentially. Lighted up - well done.
          1. Ramzaj99
            Ramzaj99 26 March 2016 09: 58
            0
            Quote: vv3
            Comrades speak essentially. Lighted up - well done.

            Read above 10 posts, in my opinion I spoke very clearly .....
            And I didn’t "minus" you, I only put minuses to trolls, you have your own position and I respect it.
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    2. Mobius
      Mobius 25 March 2016 22: 59
      +4
      Quote: vv3
      In Syria, possessing modern military means in the absence of air resistance and support for the bulk of the population, it was possible to destroy terrorists and help the legitimate authorities take control of the entire territory for a certain period. To do this, 2 dozen modern drones and means of ensuring their work and trained operators .


      You read this lecture to the Ukrainian General Staff ... And then, in the anti-terrorist operation zone (Oops fellow ,pun) lol , near Avdiivka, they were "covered" by three servicemen while trying Abnormal equip UAVs with weapons.

      Three servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces died and four were wounded in the area of ​​the occupied city of Avdeevka north of Donetsk as a result of a gap that occurred while trying to equip an unmanned aerial vehicle with grenades.

      “Intelligence established that the experimental UAVs were delivered to the units of the 13th airborne division 58th division, deployed in the area of ​​Avdeevka, by Ukrainian“ volunteers ”. The personnel of the battalion together with the "volunteers" tried to make it a "shock drone" for shelling the settlements of the DPR from the air. The work was carried out in a tent. During the suspension of grenades on an unsuitable aircraft, the tent was blown up and ignited, as a result of which three Ukrainian servicemen were killed and four were injured, ”said deputy commander of the DPR Ministry of Defense corps Eduard Basurin.

      He added that along with the UAV, and other equipment brought to the occupants, including two American-made Motorola radio communication stations, burned down.
      1. vv3
        vv3 25 March 2016 23: 16
        -12%
        Aircraft weapons are aircraft and helicopters in the first place. In my opinion, shock mini UAVs are nonsense. And we won’t pull big shock drones because there is no information field. And I consider all our projects in this regard to be wrecking until such an information field is created.
      2. FenH
        FenH 25 March 2016 23: 46
        -1
        Quote: Möbius
        Quote: vv3
        In Syria, possessing modern military means in the absence of air resistance and support for the bulk of the population, it was possible to destroy terrorists and help the legitimate authorities take control of the entire territory for a certain period. To do this, 2 dozen modern drones and means of ensuring their work and trained operators .


        You read this lecture to the Ukrainian General Staff ... And then, in the anti-terrorist operation zone (Oops fellow ,pun) lol , near Avdiivka, they were "covered" by three servicemen while trying Abnormal equip UAVs with weapons.

        Three servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces died and four were wounded in the area of ​​the occupied city of Avdeevka north of Donetsk as a result of a gap that occurred while trying to equip an unmanned aerial vehicle with grenades.

        “Intelligence established that the experimental UAVs were delivered to the units of the 13th airborne division 58th division, deployed in the area of ​​Avdeevka, by Ukrainian“ volunteers ”. The personnel of the battalion together with the "volunteers" tried to make it a "shock drone" for shelling the settlements of the DPR from the air. The work was carried out in a tent. During the suspension of grenades on an unsuitable aircraft, the tent was blown up and ignited, as a result of which three Ukrainian servicemen were killed and four were injured, ”said deputy commander of the DPR Ministry of Defense corps Eduard Basurin.

        He added that along with the UAV, and other equipment brought to the occupants, including two American-made Motorola radio communication stations, burned down.


        I wonder who is to blame:
      3. kagorta
        kagorta 26 March 2016 08: 10
        0
        Motor scooters had previously sold Basurin. Therefore, he knows others. laughing
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    4. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 25 March 2016 23: 00
      +5
      Excuse me, did you try to get yourself into a hospital or a market without air guides?
      1. vv3
        vv3 25 March 2016 23: 29
        -7
        And why the whole conversation. Compare, the decision is made by the operator for one hundred or more kilometers from the enemy according to the picture and coordinates on the monitor transmitted from the UAV, or the spotter, risking his life, surrounded by beards on the battlefield. I am for 1 option.
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        4. a.hamster55
          a.hamster55 26 March 2016 00: 18
          +1
          I'm sorry! Due to Friday, I originally inserted the wrong picture. Sorry to all!
          1. Ros 56
            Ros 56 26 March 2016 09: 01
            +1
            In vain dear apologize, high-quality photograph. Vasily Ivanovich, this is our story.
        5. SSR
          SSR 26 March 2016 04: 27
          +2
          Quote: vv3
          And why the whole conversation. Compare, the decision is made by the operator for one hundred or more kilometers from the enemy according to the picture and coordinates on the monitor transmitted from the UAV, or the spotter, risking his life, surrounded by beards on the battlefield. I am for 1 option.

          Only a person on the spot will be able to recognize the tighter "set up", well, several bearded meat men with machine guns walk here and there, imitate violent activity plus misinformation, and in the building in the room children and women - will the BLA knock on the window and ask to move the curtain? This is so for example.
        6. AleksUkr
          AleksUkr 26 March 2016 09: 45
          +3
          Quote: vv3
          Compare, the decision is made by the operator for one hundred or more kilometers from the enemy according to the picture and coordinates on the monitor transmitted from the UAV, or the spotter, risking his life, surrounded by beards on the battlefield. I am for 1 option.

          WHO WOULD DOUBT THAT. From the point of view, it is safe .... Go ahead and continue in your conclusions. For the most you are not capable ...
    5. Maj.
      Maj. 25 March 2016 23: 40
      -10%
      vv3 agree with you
    6. vv3
      vv3 25 March 2016 23: 42
      -5
      There are cons. Where are the arguments? Maybe I will read and realize. What am I wrong7 There are a lot of science fiction, or maybe not? I believe that all of this can be realized by our means, they will not work very well, but this is where you need to invest money and efforts in the first place. It is time to change priorities in creating modern funds. Everything else will wait, and PAK FA, and strategists, and almaty, and nano ...
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      2. a.hamster55
        a.hamster55 26 March 2016 00: 21
        0
        But what kind of International are you for?
        1. Signaller
          Signaller 26 March 2016 07: 16
          0
          So what?????? Forward m with a song
      3. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 26 March 2016 09: 47
        0
        Quote: vv3
        It's time to change priorities in creating modern tools. Everything else will wait, and PAK FA, and strategists, and almaty, and nano ...

        SO CHANGE !!!! FLAG YOU HANDS ....
    7. ArcanAG
      ArcanAG 26 March 2016 08: 19
      +2
      Quote: vv3
      In Syria, possessing modern military means in the absence of air resistance and support for the bulk of the population, it was possible in a certain period to destroy terrorists and help the legitimate authorities take control of the entire territory.


      This is done. Or does the period not suit you?

      Quote: vv3
      This requires 2 dozen modern drones and means of ensuring their work and trained operators.


      Detected Internet expert. You not only know better than the military how to do it, but also how much money is needed to solve the problem. It remains only to envy.

      Why did you decide that our troops make poor use of available forces and assets in Syria? Moreover, give advice. Do you have experience using them more effectively? Do you have any similar experience?

      I want to note that the Western coalition led by the United States ate drones on a dog. Both reconnaissance and strike. Nevertheless, they cannot do without ground units.
      And in Syria, in general, no tasks directed against ISIS and other barmales can be solved.
    8. Roman 57 rus
      Roman 57 rus 26 March 2016 13: 39
      +1
      What is the result of the American coalition fighting and what? Do not forget that from that side far from schoolchildren confront.
  8. Mestny
    Mestny 25 March 2016 22: 43
    +1
    Quote: vv3
    Hurricanes and coalitions or strike air means within the range of which targets are located destroy them. We do not have such drones, hurricanes and air means.

    Sympathize with you. How are you?
    In Russia, here they are and are being applied.
    1. vv3
      vv3 25 March 2016 22: 51
      -10%
      Our drones do not save anyone. They make movies, or serve as a means of objective control. They do not determine the coordinates of the target and do not transmit them to the means of destruction in real time. At best, they can be used to determine the coordinates of stationary objects and destroy them after a few hours. .. And the coordinates are given by spotters, who often die, like in the 2nd world war. This direction is in full swing. Robots, armats, coalitions .... don’t know where to shoot, where is the enemy. It is necessary to send a platoon of heroes to death to determine the coordinates targets, then to destroy these targets in a new fashion with ultramodern CALIBERS ... Our army is blind and deaf. Why create ultramodern weapons of destruction if we do not know how to use them, or rather we are not able to organize the receipt of information for their application?
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 26 March 2016 09: 50
        0
        Quote: vv3
        Our army is blind and deaf. Why create ultramodern means of destruction if we do not know how to use them, or rather we do not know how to organize the receipt of information for their use?

        AND YOU ATTEMPTED TO SERVE AT LEAST THE ASSESSOR ...? ALSO ... WHERE ALREADY YOU ...
      2. BOB48
        BOB48 26 March 2016 11: 48
        -1
        sorry but you!
  9. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 25 March 2016 22: 56
    0
    The Russians have a man warrior! A specialist in military qualifications is a valuable comrade! Doctors are irreplaceable docks! The rest is a necessary attribute of WAR fellow
    1. Maj.
      Maj. 25 March 2016 23: 45
      -3
      Comrades! there are comrades among us who are not comrades at all to us. And he’s right, think gentlemen, you like to be called like that.
  10. nozdrevat58
    nozdrevat58 25 March 2016 23: 31
    0
    This is how life is arranged. Any good specialist in any field - piece goods. Just do not always understand this.
    I agree completely. Here in the 90s "they did not always understand this." Now there is peace of mind for the safety of their own, and their children and grandchildren.
  11. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 25 March 2016 23: 41
    0
    Quote: vv3
    Our drones do not save anyone. They make movies, or serve as a means of objective control. They do not determine the coordinates of the target and do not transmit them to the means of destruction in real time. At best, they can be used to determine the coordinates of stationary objects and destroy them after a few hours. .. And the coordinates are given by spotters, who often die, like in the 2nd world war. This direction is in full swing. Robots, armats, coalitions .... don’t know where to shoot, where is the enemy. It is necessary to send a platoon of heroes to death to determine the coordinates targets, then to destroy these targets in a new fashion with ultramodern CALIBERS ... Our army is blind and deaf. Why create ultramodern weapons of destruction if we do not know how to use them, or rather we are not able to organize the receipt of information for their application?

    Thanks to such ukrovoyaki, judging by the flag, here you have such a hohloarmiya and you don’t need to carry the blizzard about what you don’t know .. and did you even wrap a footcloth at least?
    1. vv3
      vv3 25 March 2016 23: 53
      +1
      I’m a Russian, an Air Force colonel, a hereditary Don Cossack from the Ataman family, my great-grandfather, Cossack Yesaul two Georges, a 4-generation military intelligentsia, all 4 grandfathers died in the war, two officers ... Enough? .. I can still ...
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 26 March 2016 00: 18
        +6
        Quote: vv3
        ... all 4 grandfathers died in the war, two officers ...

        Um .. and I had only 2 grandfathers ..

        Quote: vv3
        Enough? .. I can still ...

        IMHO enough laughing
        1. vv3
          vv3 26 March 2016 00: 59
          -1
          My grandmother had 2 siblings, .... Further profanity .....
          1. Vitwin
            Vitwin 26 March 2016 01: 45
            +1
            Quote: vv3
            Grandma had

            And in general, my grandmother had it - fellow and so she was a grandfather belay
      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 26 March 2016 01: 26
        +4
        Quote: vv3
        I'm Russian, Air Force Colonel

        And you write like a schoolboy ..

        Quote: vv3
        I don’t understand the author what Kiev is talking about. Before us are American dolls, who, under the guise of leadership, are killing, or rather, killing Ukraine. The most incomprehensible is that 95% of the population of Ukraine is sleeping, or rather, like sheep, waiting for something Someone will come and fix it ... Which Minsk? ... The whole Geyopa is also American dolls, only VIP status ... If Russia, as they cry, a participant in the conflict, it might be time to restore order in the Donbass. we don’t lose anything. Create a security zone, warn all first amers, and bring down any equipment and armed detachments in this zone and outside this zone who shoot in the direction of Donbass. It is merciless and every time to show the past shots of the killing of Donetsk, convincing everyone of the most humane goals-saving people's lives.

        Your creativity? Yours, Yours .. Colonel negative
        1. Vitwin
          Vitwin 26 March 2016 01: 40
          +5
          [quote] Cat Man Null] Your creativity [/ quote]
          [quote] american dolls [quote]
          [quote] 95% of the population of Ukraine sleeps, or rather, like sheep, [/ quote]
          [quote] .. All of Geyopa are also American dolls, [/ quote]
          [quote], warn everyone, the first amer, [/ quote]
          [quote] bring down any equipment and armed units in this zone and outside this zone, [/ quote]
          Cote Manuel - he made up a training manual for discussion on Ukrainian topics, but decided to share it, we can also have boys who are going to success laughing
          I'm Russian, Air Force Colonel - I’m a Crimean analogue, daughter of an officer? lol
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 26 March 2016 01: 45
            +2
            Quote: Vitwin
            I'm Russian, Air Force Colonel - I’m a Crimean analogue, daughter of an officer?

            Maybe yes.

            PS: Cat ManuИl is cool!

            So no one called me yet good
            1. Vitwin
              Vitwin 26 March 2016 01: 49
              +1
              Alas, I did not manage to agree with you - it lubricates the beauty of the moment))
              PS: Cat Manuel is cool!

              Glad you rated the joke hi
              Although if it hurts you to consider it - an eyed drinks
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 26 March 2016 01: 58
                -1
                Quote: Vitwin
                Although if it hurts you

                I’m not there .. but Kota .. it’s better not to do it all the same .. wink

                Quote: Vitwin
                to consider as an eyepiece

                soldier
                1. Vitwin
                  Vitwin 26 March 2016 02: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  Kota .. better not to do so though.

                  Yes, it’s a sin to offend the silent animal)) Yes, even to give the Semitic color, I agree. This is where I looked at one of the most important components of patriotism lol
                  You need to sketch out the honey too laughing - I think to "general" on it in a couple of days I will overcome))
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 26 March 2016 02: 47
                    0
                    Quote: Vitwin
                    Yes, it’s a sin for the beast to offend the silent

                    - why is it - silent? Wordless - yes, well, it is not given .. but about the "silent" - this is slander!

                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    And patronymic probably Izrailevich?

                    - And cats are not supposed to middle names tongue

                    Ruslan, hi
                    1. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 26 March 2016 02: 50
                      +3
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      - And cats are not supposed to middle names

                      You're lying cat am I had Peter Tikhonovich yes
                      And your judging by the current flag is still Izrailevich request tongue
                      1. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 26 March 2016 02: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        And your judging by the current flag is still Izrailevich

                        Then Dzhonovich some thread ..

                        By the way, what kind of nonsense with flags? And then I, sitting in my kitchen, smoothly moving between Iceland, the States and the EU belay

                        Here she is right, without any effort on my part .. damn ..
                      2. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 26 March 2016 03: 02
                        +2
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        I, sitting in my kitchen, move smoothly between Iceland, the States and the EU

                        Ek poked you what
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        without any effort on my part.

                        Well, at least I had to put a mushroom in my mouth and .... on a cruise around the world wassat
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                      4. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 26 March 2016 03: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        and since the New Year it’s just such a catastrophe ..

                        But see the world wassat
                  2. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 26 March 2016 16: 58
                    -1
                    It is you that bend the corridors of the information space, so the flags are jumping.
              2. Vitwin
                Vitwin 26 March 2016 02: 56
                +1
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                - why is it - silent? Wordless - yes, well, it is not given .. but about the "silent" - this is slander!

                So my friend - avatar, I wrote it.
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      4. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 26 March 2016 02: 36
        +4
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        : Cat Manuil - it's cool!

        And patronymic probably Izrailevich? laughing
        1. Vitwin
          Vitwin 26 March 2016 02: 42
          +2
          Quote: Ruslan67
          And patronymic probably Izrailevich

          Campaign - Kote hit the people on the tongue laughing
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 26 March 2016 02: 44
            +1
            Quote: Vitwin
            Kote got the people on the tongue

            Purely specifically yes
            But Roma is a man with humor wink Will understand request
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            2. Vitwin
              Vitwin 26 March 2016 02: 49
              0
              Quote: Ruslan67
              Roma man with humor

              I agree, you can’t argue good
  12. vv3
    vv3 26 March 2016 02: 05
    -5
    Do you dislike something? Or do you disagree? - Comrade Investigator. Are you already studying my work? Do not. I do not need such comrades.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 26 March 2016 02: 12
      +2
      Quote: vv3
      Are you already studying my work?

      No, I just looked into the tape. You can look at my previous posts in the same way, this option is available here to everyone.

      What I saw:

      - not a single participation in "subject" topics (are you an Air Force colonel, or where?)
      - common words mostly
      - vocabulary .. well, it’s a long time to explain .. well, Comrad Vitwin made a squeeze from your opus:

      Quote: Vitwin
      american dolls
      95% of the population of Ukraine sleeps, or rather, like sheep
      All Geyopa is also American dolls
      warn everyone - the first amer
      bring down any equipment and armed units in this zone and outside this zone

      Believe me, I saw many different .. colonels. Not one of them would say such nonsense, let alone write.

      That's all, actually yes
      1. vv3
        vv3 26 March 2016 02: 36
        +1
        And it's bad, what's wrong? And why is it interesting to you? Touched? ... And they read about two congresses? ... Okay, we drove through. We bet ... It was nice to exchange opinions ...
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 26 March 2016 02: 55
          +1
          Quote: vv3
          Is that bad?

          No, it’s good just ..

          Quote: vv3
          On the other hand, to maintain the existing TU-160, you need them reproduction...

          YYYYYYY laughing laughing laughing

          Budding wink
          1. vv3
            vv3 26 March 2016 03: 15
            -2
            Listen, don’t be dumb ... There was production, then it stopped ... Years later they wanted to resume. How short is this whole process called? By budding? You can immediately see the non-military. You need to briefly and clearly ... Do you understand? ...
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 26 March 2016 03: 17
              +2
              Quote: vv3
              . There was production, then it stopped ... After years, they wanted to resume.

              Quote: vv3
              . Need to be brief and clear ..

              Hotelka soldier
            2. Cat man null
              Cat man null 26 March 2016 03: 20
              +1
              Quote: vv3
              There was production, then it stopped ... After years, they wanted to resume. How short is this whole process called?

              What is needed - what? Resume production ..

              So call resumption of production, and do not worry wink
            3. AleksUkr
              AleksUkr 26 March 2016 10: 01
              0
              Quote: vv3
              Listen do not be dumb ...? You can immediately see the non-military. You need to briefly and clearly ... Do you understand? ...


              HAVE YOU ALREADY MOVED TO YOU? FRIENDS WERE CLOSED ...
          2. Vitwin
            Vitwin 26 March 2016 03: 20
            +1
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Budding

            Rather - by artificial insemination - agriculture is on the rise - import substitution Ms.))
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 26 March 2016 03: 22
              +2
              Quote: Vitwin
              agriculture speaks on the rise - import substitution ms))

              What, learned at home to breed Colorado potato beetle? belay We will not import more?
              1. Vitwin
                Vitwin 26 March 2016 03: 26
                +1
                Quote: Ruslan67
                What, learned at home to breed Colorado potato beetle

                So for what I bought, TV Forever fellow
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      3. Vitwin
        Vitwin 26 March 2016 03: 44
        +1
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        No, I just looked into the tape.

        Roman also looked at his tape - as if two people, most of the comments I would have completely said correspond, but this article went to some kind of suit, apparently the people started to joke request
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 26 March 2016 04: 09
          +1
          Quote: Vitwin
          looked at his tape - as if two people most of the comments I would have completely said correspond

          Well, I don’t know .. I was not too lazy, I scanned EVERYTHING belay

          I didn’t notice anything outstanding. I also found such a pearl:

          Quote: vv3
          For almost 10 years, I served in officer posts in combat units of the Air Force SA and it was associated with the maintenance of combat aircraft. There are few soldiers in the aviation units.

          On the word "soldiers" my mokh broke ..

          In short - if this is a colonel of the Air Force, then I am a telephone booth.

          That's it, I'm horizontal. Four in the morning, and I'm still not in one eye request
  • figwam
    figwam 26 March 2016 09: 52
    +2
    Quote: vv3
    I am Russian, Air Force Colonel, hereditary Don Cossack from the Ataman family

    Maybe Crimean, daughter of an officer?
    ]
  • AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 26 March 2016 09: 57
    +1
    Quote: vv3
    I’m a Russian, an Air Force colonel, a hereditary Don Cossack from the Ataman family, my great-grandfather, Cossack Yesaul two Georges, a 4-generation military intelligentsia, all 4 grandfathers died in the war, two officers ... Enough? .. I can still ...

    And MY PRA-PRA -.... Grandfather, by the way, also a Cossack, at the beginning of the 19th century reached Paris. But I DON'T Suffer from Stupidity, NOT AS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME ONE WHOSE MILLER WATER IS LETTER? ...
  • Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 26 March 2016 01: 03
    +3
    Comrade VV3, but I get the impression that you are a storyteller!

    You already somehow decide, or
    Quote: vv3
    hereditary Don Cossack from the ataman family
    or
    Quote: vv3
    my great-grandfather Cossack Yesaul two George
    ? Eeeh, yasaul ...

    Yesaul, Yesaul, why did you leave your horse, didn’t your arm raise? request

    And yet there could not be a "clan of atamans", the chieftain - the position was always elective, and "by family", "by patronymic and by grandfather" was not transferred.

    And if your ancestor is a Cossack esaul with georgies, then it turns out he betrayed God and the Tsar, to whom he swore oath, going to the red in the Civil? and it turns out that he "bent under the system"? otherwise your ancestors could not have become officers in the USSR!

    About the four grandfathers you have already written above an intelligent man.
    1. vv3
      vv3 26 March 2016 01: 15
      -5
      You are smarter. I am happy for you ... But in essence, as I understand the questions, weakly. Do you have ancestors of GBshniki or political leaders?
      1. AleksUkr
        AleksUkr 26 March 2016 10: 04
        +1
        Quote: vv3
        Do you have ancestors of GBshniki or political leaders?

        ALREADY HAVE REACHED THERE ... BUT YOU, Colonel, WASN'T ZAPPOLIT? AND HOW YOU BEFORE IT ... ready for anything ...
  • vv3
    vv3 26 March 2016 01: 39
    0
    You are smarter. I’m happy for you ... But in essence, I understand the questions, weakly. Do you have ancestors of GBs or political leaders? On the one hand, it’s nice to talk to an intelligent person - all your comments make sense. But, believe me, I would very clearly answer them. But, I’m not on the party commission. On the other hand, it’s a pity that you are wasting your intellect on nit-picking, and not on substantive discussion.
  • Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 26 March 2016 01: 58
    +3
    Quote: vv3
    Do you have ancestors of GBshniki or political leaders?

    But I have already spoken out at VO about my ancestors and I can once again publicly say this, I have nothing to be ashamed of. There are no gebists or commissars among my ancestors: on the mother’s side there are all simple peasants, but on my father’s side there is a noble priestly family, exterminated on 4 \ 5 in the era of the early Bolsheviks, and there I know my ancestors until the 18 century (many were officers and participated in many wars of Russia - including in the Caucasian and Crimean).

    And yes, my ancestors were not officers in the USSR, including in the "origin" column.

    But in essence - to be honest, you express your opinion very objectively, and unfortunately it is based on very correctly noticed conditions. Yes, much in the modern army of the Russian Federation is based on ostentatiousness ...
    1. vv3
      vv3 26 March 2016 02: 12
      +1
      So we will be friends in absentia. Do you mind .. Thank you Valery.
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      2. goblin xnumx
        goblin xnumx 26 March 2016 03: 03
        +3
        friendship world chewing gum :) - on the charge of deceit, an offer to make friends :)
        1. vv3
          vv3 26 March 2016 03: 21
          +1
          Learn. Did you analyze everything? It's time to write a mortgage note.
        2. Cat man null
          Cat man null 26 March 2016 03: 34
          +1
          Quote: Leshy74
          on the charge of deceit, an offer to make friends :)

          (thoughtfully): Not .. Gridasov is still funnier .. this is not only a schoolboy, but also (IMHO) dumb ..

          (dreamily): And there is Sweles ... wassat
          1. Vitwin
            Vitwin 26 March 2016 04: 09
            +1
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Gridasov is still funnier

            You intrigue them the second time - have you not seen, hu out?
            1. Raven1972
              Raven1972 26 March 2016 12: 42
              0
              Quote: Vitwin
              You intrigue them the second time - have you not seen, hu out?

              Look in the subject of hypersound or engines)))) There are many hi laughing
          2. vv3
            vv3 30 March 2016 21: 55
            -1
            I got it, phone booth. No, no. Go further downstream ....
        3. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 26 March 2016 03: 36
          +3
          Quote: Leshy74
          - on the charge of deceit, an offer to make friends :)

          So tollerstenko repeat love wassat
          1. Vitwin
            Vitwin 26 March 2016 04: 11
            +2
            Quote: Ruslan67
            So tollerstenko

            Who are we friends against? F. Ranevskaya))
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  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 26 March 2016 02: 52
    0
    Unlike city generals, generals like Dvornikov will be truly respected among the military and not only! Moreover, there is a unique opportunity to show your character, knowledge and experience. As you can see, there are real people in the Russian army.
  • twincam
    twincam 26 March 2016 02: 57
    0
    Quote: Stock Officer
    My year of birth. Suvorov in Ussuriysk. But the boys probably met. I often came to Ussuriysk in Suvorovskoye to a friend. He was in 1976 after graduating from eight classes of a secondary school in Susuman, Magadan Region, he entered this school.
    How the years go by ...
    And I sincerely congratulate Alexander Vladimirovich with a high award.

    I have a lot of corefans with UVWACU))
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 26 March 2016 04: 20
    +1
    Quote: vv3
    I am Russian, Air Force colonel, hereditary Don Cossack from the Ataman family, my great-grandfather, Cossack Yesaul two Georges, military intelligentsia in the 4th generation

  • Signaller
    Signaller 26 March 2016 05: 08
    +1
    Alexander Vladimirovich, let us recall what was going on in Syria at the time of the Russian military contingent entering there.
    Of course it is interesting what would happen in Syria if it were not for Serdyukov and Shoigu ????. And the fact that in Syria is understandable. TV hangs, hangs noodles on ears.
  • Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 26 March 2016 09: 01
    +1
    The army has always been the pride of our country.
    This she has remained in our time, despite the machinations of the liberals ...
  • passenger
    passenger 26 March 2016 20: 34
    0
    The main thing, as Putin said, is not to get "dizzy with success." And then we have such people - as soon as it turned out - so immediately the thought that "we will throw our hats." And this is how people evaluate everything - both war and civilian industries (the economy). They believe in success too quickly (backed by both propaganda at the state level and the stuffing of network "analysts"), and when difficulties reappear, whining about "Putin leaked" begins ...