Is it time about friendship and chewing gum? No time!

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Analysts at Bloomberg believe that the time has not come to normalize relations with Russia. Restoring the previous level of trust between Western states and the Kremlin is premature. "The American Interest" hints that there is a long standoff ahead: another eight years. Why so long? The fact is that Moscow does not have the strength to win this confrontation, and the West has no will.

Is it time about friendship and chewing gum? No time!


In the article of Mark Champion («Bloomberg») right in the title says that the time for the normalization of relations with Russia has not come yet. Yes, it did not come, despite the fact that "two smartest analysts" writing about Russia claim that it has come.

The first of the “smartest” - Fedor Lukyanov, who heads the Russian Council on foreign and defense policy, reminds the author. He argues that after a short operation in Syria, Russia can sit at the negotiating table opponents of Assad, and the West should be ready for constructive negotiations on Ukraine (read - on sanctions).

The second clever, Anatole Lieven, a professor at Georgetown University, "goes a step further," assuring the world community: "Do not be afraid of Russians." Do not be afraid of them, neither in Syria nor in Ukraine. Putin is not at all going to “recreate the 18th century” and attach “Novorossiya” to Russia. The professor believes that Putin was never going to do this.

True, the journalist "Bloomberg" is not as obvious as the professor. In addition, the main thing for a journalist is not at all the foreign policy ambitions of Russia. He is trying to look at the world globally. And then there are "two questions."

1. Which world will be better: with Russia “inside the tent” or with Russia “outside”?

The answer is simple: inside.

2. Can Russia be a partner in solving joint problems of continental security?

This question is more complicated. After all, Russia claims that such security can only be achieved by eliminating NATO. In Moscow they say, the author writes, that the membership of a country in the EU is equivalent for this country to Soviet occupation tanks. The Russians also think that all popular protests are the fruits of the CIA’s activities, and the Western world is opposed to Russia, and does not react at all to its behavior.

Professor Lieven is probably right in saying that Putin has no desire to invade the Baltic states or Poland. Nevertheless, Putin is "unpredictable." He "sent strategic bombers into the airspace of NATO countries," Russian submarines "were found in Swedish waters," missiles were "in the Kaliningrad enclave," and so on. Putin's opponents are alarmed.

And it is also impossible to predict what will happen in Ukraine. You can’t know how it would be if Putin succeeded in a bloodless coup in the Crimean scenario in the so-called. New Russia - from Odessa to Kharkov. “Evidence testifies,” the author is confident that Putin has changed his military decisions because of failures, and not out of some kind of “self-restraint.”

On the other hand, Putin "promoted the cease-fire in the Ukrainian Donbass." Again, continues Champion, Russian fighters and military equipment "remain in place on Ukrainian soil." “We still do not know how far Putin is ready to go,” the analyst expresses his concern.

Anton Barbashin (Anton Barbashin) in "The American Interest" writes that the West and Russia are waiting for a long confrontation. Two years after the annexation of the Crimea, it became clear: neither Russia nor the West can achieve advantages in the struggle: one will not have enough power for this, the other will not.

Two years ago, 21 March 2014, just 5 days after the so-called referendum on the status of Crimea, the Russian Ministry of Defense instituted the medal "For the Return of Crimea". It was intended to reward soldiers who took part "in the assault and the illegal annexation of the Ukrainian Peninsula," the author writes. And the majority of Russians considered “the Crimean operation to be an achievement competing with the flight of Yuri Gagarin into space”.

The West was “shocked” by how well the “special forces” acted in the Crimea. And political scientists, who could not forget "the invasion of Russia in Georgia in 2008," for some reason, suddenly surprised, "Putin’s readiness to tear off a piece of territory from a neighboring state, completely ignoring the interstate borders."

Putin and his advisors clearly believed that they were “at the dawn of a new era” when they would finally be able to “restore influence” in the post-Soviet space.

Time passed, and many experts in the West thought that the large resource costs of wars, combined with low oil prices, sanctions and international political pressure, would bring the political "Putin's demise" closer.

However, the West miscalculated. However, Putin miscalculated too. Both sides, apparently, miscalculated, the author writes. Putin now rules Russia "in a constant anti-crisis regime," urging his people to the need to "return to their former national glory." The West “annoys” Putin, but does not restrain him. And this is the way to “trouble”, the author is sure.

The reality is that two years after the "annexation" of the Crimea, Putin did not become an outcast, further noted in the material, and Russia did not turn into an isolated country. Moreover, the Russian army "invaded Syria" on behalf of Bashar Assad, which led to an increase in the flow of refugees to Europe. As a result, the West excluded the “Kiev problems” from the priority ones, “at least for a while.”

And yet Western sanctions are not likely to be lifted in the near future, at least those related to the annexation of the Crimea. No one is in a hurry to recognize Crimea as a legitimate part of Russia.

Most analysts now agree: Putin will remain in power until the end of his fourth term. Therefore, the next eight years, Barbashin believes, are likely to be saturated with “various clashes” with the West.

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So, in the influential Western media, the view is expressed that it is premature to normalize relations with Russia. Putin is “unpredictable,” and “Russian fighters and military equipment” are still “on Ukrainian soil.” In addition, Moscow stubbornly believes that the security of the world implies the "elimination of NATO."

A long opposition of the West and Russia due to the lack of will of the first and insufficient strength of the second is also predicted. The West has failed in two years after the “annexation” of the Crimea to turn Putin into an “outcast”, and “isolate” Russia. Putin, however, still got low oil prices, sanctions and international political pressure. And now his government has to work "in a constant anti-crisis mode."

Putin will also rule Russia in the future: according to experts, he will remain in power until the end of the fourth term. That is why the coming eight years will be saturated with “disassembly” of Russia with the West. Sanctions will continue.

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    1. +21
      24 March 2016 06: 37
      and isolate Russia... Insulating tape is not enough ...
      1. +10
        24 March 2016 06: 53
        If the West does not have enough will, then victory will be ours! Zagryzom ... The weak-willed lose, even if physically stronger.
        1. jjj
          +4
          24 March 2016 10: 09
          And you see how they are all from the East and from the West to Moscow more often. All agree on something, shake it. Moscow becomes the de facto capital of world politics
          1. +8
            24 March 2016 10: 50
            Putin, experts say, will remain in power until the end of the fourth term

            fellow

            Somewhere on the VO forum in the corner a party of the opposition was depressed

            laughing

            the fight drags on for another 8 years. Zrada feel Another 8 years of accusatory posts and questions: "DOCOLE?!?!?"

            Patience gentlemen, this is your normal state. sad Or not used to it?)

            1. +2
              24 March 2016 12: 11
              Quote: s-t Petrov
              Somewhere on the VO forum in the corner a party of the opposition was depressed

              lol good
              Every time the "darkest" one stays for another presidential term, somewhere in the Russian Federation one liberal is sad. From this opera.
            2. 0
              24 March 2016 19: 40
              What are you, colleague! If suddenly (God forbid), the liberals win, then phishington will take them to finance, they will just take a break. Before us is a living example of the 90s and the preceding opposition. You are angry. It is better to let the snow in the north be removed, even though they do not immediately die of hunger. Maybe someone will regret it, they will determine it at the zoo.
      2. -2
        24 March 2016 13: 46
        Quote: parusnik
        and Russia "isolate" ... Insulating tape is not enough ...


        utin is “unpredictable,” and “Russian fighters and military equipment” are still “on Ukrainian soil.” In addition, Moscow stubbornly believes that the security of the world implies "the elimination of NATO."

        And the enemy is not afraid of us! he will not pass)))
        1. +1
          24 March 2016 15: 15
          In Volgograd, they say atas with roads! A work colleague told. His parents live there. He is shocked after traveling to Volgograd.
          1. 0
            24 March 2016 15: 53
            I confirm. In Volgograd, hell is on the road. But there are hills. Yes, and all roads in the Russian Federation on clay, roughly speaking.

            In Volgograd, everyone is waiting for the World Cup - they are building a stadium - the roads will be completely updated throughout the city
          2. 0
            24 March 2016 21: 09
            In Volgograd, one of the main arteries of the city, but all in the PITs, you go and cry on the suspension!
        2. +1
          24 March 2016 17: 01
          Quote: parusnik
          and Russia "isolate" ... Insulating tape is not enough ...

          utin is “unpredictable,” and “Russian fighters and military equipment” are still “on Ukrainian soil.” In addition, Moscow stubbornly believes that the security of the world implies "the elimination of NATO."
          And the enemy is not afraid of us! he will not pass)))

          And what are you minus then ????? Just like Svidomo’s brains, you still have to jump to her god how to lick minus sticks.
          Do you understand the problem ????? We lived in fat years and the roads didn’t do just scraper tax, but what will happen now ???? the budget is poor in Chubais wallets and getting heavier, and in Omsk it’s possible only by plane, and these arrived only once in the history of the city (I'm talking about the performance of Vityazi)
          What's next ???? I’ve been asking myself this question for the fourth year now, but I don’t have any roads. I am happy for foreign policy, but fucking shame isn’t funny ... come to Omsk and I’ll give you a ride.
          Omsk offer to stick this video in articles wherever possible. That the mushrooms that live in the abdomen of our moneybags from Moscow looked what Russia
          1. +1
            24 March 2016 17: 57
            The roads are terrible, it is scary to look at, driving is even worse! You can "stick a video" everywhere, of course, only the roads are unlikely to become smoother from this. Omsk residents have the right to ask the local authorities where the money goes. Is there any control that can be exercised? Are the city authorities accountable to residents? Maybe we ourselves can do something in this direction, until my uncle from Moscow came to fix the roads ...
            1. +1
              24 March 2016 18: 11
              Maybe they themselves can do something in this direction, while an uncle from Moscow came to repair the road ...

              And you think we do not / ???? We do it !! I’m working 12 hours a day, this is May’s duty, and you suggest that I still have to shoulder the duty of running with banners ПЖАВ, etc.
              I understand that I can easily teach myself
            2. 0
              25 March 2016 00: 49
              Quote: All-Seeing
              Omsk residents have the right to ask the local authorities where the money is going?

              In theory (by law) yes, but in practice the authorities are untouchable and therefore they put a bolt on the "people", big, thick and with a swing.

              Quote: All-Seeing
              At least some control can be implemented?

              Absolutely nothing, in the midst of those in power who have mutual responsibility, you can scribble complaints, sue - everything will be rejected on far-fetched pretexts, and if you get too much, they will defend a fake case and put you in jail.

              Quote: All-Seeing
              Are city authorities accountable to residents?

              No, the authorities are accountable only to themselves and to their bosses who gave them this power. They consider themselves the new "nobility", absolute masters, and the common people their "slaves" and powerless cattle. In a narrow circle of their own - they do not hesitate to declare it in plain text, and some make a reservation already publicly.


              Quote: All-Seeing
              Can do something in this direction

              Of course, buy the money that remains after all the "state" extortions of asphalt, take shovels and go together after a working day to lay holes. wassat
              Officials will only be happy - it will be possible to plunder the budget without even imitating road work. fellow
            3. 0
              25 March 2016 05: 25
              Quote: All-Seeing
              Omsk residents have the right to ask the local authorities where the money is going? At least some control can be implemented? Are city authorities accountable to residents?

              The mayor and the governor receive high ratings for saving the budget they are not up to investing in the city. For 10 years they have been trumpeting a grand event for 300 years to the city and this year has come. There are no roads, plaster crumbled on houses. The number of streets on which the city guests were going to drive was reduced by half, so as not to disgrace. Snow from the streets this year was not removed at all!
              And the mayor? One of our deputies wrote - "Why bother? The city is calm, quiet, why do something and why do you rock it?"
              Or his pearl - God is to blame for the bad roads (that the snow has not been removed from the streets) .. go pray - even on TNT his pearls were ridiculed .., and at least henna.
          2. 0
            25 March 2016 01: 58
            Quote: nemec55
            Do you understand the problem ????? We lived in fat years and the roads didn’t do just scraper tax, but what will happen now ???? the budget is poor in Chubais wallets and getting heavier, and in Omsk it’s possible only by plane, and these arrived only once in the history of the city (I'm talking about the performance of Vityazi)

            As far as I know, money from the state budget for roads, which should be made at the expense of the state budget, and not at the expense of local administrations, has been allocated and continues to be allocated, part of the city itself should be done, and where is this money from - ask your homegrown.
            I watched repeatedly all sorts of crap sawn. For example, money has been allocated for the road from A to G, through B and C. And those who are interested know that the commission will not go further than B, they begin to travel and make the road from A to the first turn after B and a little for it, so that it can be seen from afar that there is more.
            Or, for example, situations when an enterprise owns a fleet of equipment, but rents almost all of it for a penny, then those tenants rent more and more, and this equipment, as a result, returns to the owner in the form of a leased one, for much more money, from where here on crushed stone, ASG and bitumen to allocate, if everything is already "mastered"))). Maybe they have already covered up this, or maybe they stayed where, I don't know. The bureaucrats are always in a share and begin to really do it, only before the arrival of the bumps from Moscow, and even then somehow ... cleanly along the route, they put asphalt, and then they look for hatches with metal detectors, put fences, print facades on banners, like and so come down, almost paint the grass. Moscow bigwigs are leaving and all over again.
            And where do they come from, such bureaucrats? Duc from the people and many are taken, not all "by inheritance" are attracted.
      3. +1
        24 March 2016 14: 12
        Well, if China does not begin to supply insulation material (I mean serious economic and political graters between our countries) it will not be enough for sure .. Although they have adhesive tape on iconic figures in Russian politics, this should be taken into account ..
        Quote: parusnik
        and isolate Russia... Insulating tape is not enough ...
      4. +1
        24 March 2016 19: 39
        About how the American "docks" predict for a long time. But what will happen in America tomorrow, here they are weak. But it will be for sure. Brussels is just a warning.
    2. +27
      24 March 2016 06: 41
      If the sanctions continue, then the liberal course will come to an end. I want the unfinished liberals to be removed from power, because Russia suffers the greatest losses precisely from them, i.e. sanctions are needed.
      1. +2
        24 March 2016 13: 50
        Quote: Jarilo
        If the sanctions continue, then the liberal course will come to an end. I want the unfinished liberals to be removed from power, because Russia suffers the greatest losses precisely from them, i.e. sanctions are needed.

        what The greatest losses do not come from the liberals, but from thieves, officials (oil oil) and "unemployed" in Bentleys and Mercedes, who drive through with thieves' license plates until they ask for each sneeze where from what income, etc. - there will be no order request
        And liberals, it’s like lice in a causal place, if they live, it’s not that itchy.
        1. +1
          24 March 2016 14: 37
          If nothing grows on your field, then what are the pests. With pests, at least something, but grows. The problem is, in fact, a system one. They know that there should be a temperature of 36,6 (inflation), so they set a goal and are trying to achieve it with monetary means, stupidly bring down the temperature, instead of curing the disease. The temperature does not go astray and the patient is constantly in a half-fainting state, as if he were not alive and not dead. There is still medieval bloodletting - a constant outflow of currency.
        2. 0
          24 March 2016 16: 56
          Corsair

          Theft in the state apparatus is a sign of a merger of corporations and state ownership. Liberals cannot fight against themselves.

          But. There is the principle of striving for survival. Therefore, it is possible to solve the problem of strengthening the state. Liberals understand that they can only survive in the confrontation in a constant struggle in competition. So they will have to watch so that the state can confront them.

          :)
          1. 0
            24 March 2016 17: 57
            And by the way.

            This is the reason for the popularity of Donald trump.

            In a liberal country, a liberal cannot be in power, otherwise the country will end.
      2. +2
        24 March 2016 16: 49
        Jarilo

        I’ll tell you such a thing that your mind will break.

        GDP, a very wise man, well, his advisers are also the norm.

        So liberals are those who support GDP, although GDP in its warehouse is more communist than liberal. Liberals without GDP will simply split the country, and they will be swallowed up by larger national corporations.

        So it turns out that the liberals need a communist in power.

        Explain.

        The liberal idea is purely selfish. Selfish, selfish enemy. Therefore, a person is needed who is ready to create between them the rules of cooperation, which could unite them. Therefore, the GDP.

        Absolutely the same principle of GDP does in international relations.

        Do you know who thieves are? Thieves are animals. But in order to survive in the zone they need a person establishing a law between them, a person whom you can trust.

        So, AOR in law is an authoritative thief who goes into denial. Failure is a refusal to carry out work on the camp. And the more the administration of the camp spread rot and he resists, the higher the authority of the thief in law. It is precisely this resistance of the administration that gives the thief in law the right to rule the law among thieves.

        It is clear why the liberals need a communist in power?

        Because there will be no trust in others.
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        2. 0
          24 March 2016 19: 16
          In politics, the authority of GDP, with the economy is a problem.
          1. +1
            24 March 2016 22: 16
            Jarilo

            I will answer why there is a problem with the economy.

            To be straightforward, GDP does not have the right to change something in the economy.

            The capitalist economy itself cannot be fair or social, which is the same. This economy does not lead to progress; this model has already reached its maximum of human development effectiveness. The principle when one is in abundance due to the impoverishment of 100 has already come to the rubicon of its development.

            What would a person begin to develop further, you need to change the principles of the economy. This is not even an economic model.

            All that GDP can afford is the ongoing development of the state. In fact, the state is a counterweight to capitalism. Preventing him from suicidally entering a destructive resonance, but also not killing him.

            The end result is the evolutionary development of socialism.
            1. 0
              25 March 2016 01: 18
              Quote: gladcu2
              The end result is the evolutionary development of socialism.

              Exclusively when robots will free a person from physical and monotonous labor.

              Or when people equalize genetically.

              People are born unequal, some are smarter - others are dumber, some are more businesslike - others are more infantile (I exaggerate of course for clarity, I add contrast).
              Smart and businesslike is building a business - stupid and infantile work there, it’s so inherent in nature.
              Forced equalization does not work - smart and businesslike, smart and businesslike find a way to throw the imposed freeloaders from their necks. With the same success, you can try to force the scientist to share the authorship of the new discovery with the laboratory assistants who simply wiped the flasks. It’s like making Da Vinci co-write “Jaconda” a groom who ran to buy a canvas.
              The collapse of the USSR proved this, no external influence would have ruined, if the most active and intelligent part of the population did not support it with their hands and feet, then what "they wanted the best, but it turned out as always" is a separate issue.

              Capitalism - if not sadly, the only system that has proved viability - all the others are bent, including socialism. (Even in the DPRK, there are semi-legal business interests and the authorities look at it through their fingers - since they fill the budget more effectively than anyone else).
              The future, in my opinion, lies with the social-capitalist technocracy.
              1. +1
                25 March 2016 09: 52
                Quote: Ahmed
                Smart and businesslike is building a business - stupid and infantile work there, it’s so inherent in nature.
                Forced equalization does not work - smart and businesslike, smart and businesslike find a way to throw the imposed freeloaders from their necks. With the same success, you can try to force the scientist to share the authorship of the new discovery with the laboratory assistants who simply wiped the flasks. It’s like making Da Vinci co-write “Jaconda” a groom who ran to buy a canvas.

                laughing Too exaggerated, at present it is not intelligence and efficiency that decide, but mainly clannishness, social circle, family ties - all together can be called to some extent a "class". There are very few businessmen now. who made themselves - for the most part, those who found themselves on time at the next carve-up (theft, bankruptcy) of a plot rich in resource base.
                Take any corporation - an ordinary person from the street at best can reach the heights of the head of the department or deportation, directors, deputies and advisers (tops) choose a board of directors. Very often, these same tops combine several positions in different companies. They all have relatives, children and close friends who are initiated into secrets; they all want to eat.
                Small business now has practically no chance to grow, it is possible to grow a little and sell your asset at a higher price to large market players, or they will simply gobble up or kill the administrative resource (and they will agree with the officials).
                1. -1
                  25 March 2016 12: 39
                  Quote: Corsair
                  Too exaggerated, at present it is not intelligence and efficiency that decide, but mainly clannishness, social circle, family ties - all together can be called to some extent a "class".

                  So I clarified that "they wanted the best, but it turned out as always." They wanted it as "in Europe", but received it almost as in "serf Russia". But everyone went through this, in the West capitalism was also in the "grabbed" style for a long time, and the middle class appeared relatively recently, when the golden rule came to the moneybags: "Your workers are your clients, the more they earn, the more they will spend on your goods and services and the more you earn. "
                  In normal healthy capitalism with strong social policies almost EVERYBODY is good - Finland, Germany, Sweden, Japan, Canada, Israel, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, etc. In these countries, even people below the so-called "poverty line" do not go hungry, they are properly dressed, have a roof over their heads, a modest used car and go abroad once a year on vacation. (Not to mention the guaranteed benefits package, symbolically paid healthcare and education, which is cheaper than Free Russian) And after all, "capitalism".


                  Quote: Corsair
                  Take any corporation ...

                  And what for do corporations and their career ladders need, if with a strong market and a benevolent state policy - you can work for yourself and not be soared. For example, take construction in the same Israel, they build mainly small subcontractors - these are not snickering seals on a Bentley with an army of gasterbayters plowing for "food", but ordinary hard workers - cooperate in 2-3 specialists, plow together and divide the income among everyone, and very they are not sickly, not every corporate top manager earns that way.



                  Quote: Corsair
                  Small business now has practically no chance to grow, it is possible to grow a little and sell your asset at a higher price to large market players, or they will simply gobble up or kill the administrative resource (and they will agree with the officials).

                  And this is the main economic catastrophe in Russia, for 20 years they could have at least Australia in terms of living standards to catch up and overtake, if not for the spread of the middle class and small business. It’s sad. request
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                    25 March 2016 16: 02
                    Ahmed

                    One day you will reconsider your views. The man, not having received satisfaction, continues to search for him. To find satisfaction you need to go the right way. Stop and change the way.

                    Capitalism is a system based on exploitation without a renewal of resources. As long as there is a resource, capitalism is alive.

                    Socialism is capitalism with the resumption of the resource, for which the concept of justice is introduced.

                    Capitalism is unfortunately a form of self-destruction.
                    1. 0
                      26 March 2016 01: 58
                      Quote: gladcu2
                      Capitalism is a system based on exploitation without a renewal of resources.

                      Since when has human labor (especially intellectual) become a nonrenewable resource? belay Do not write nonsense that contradicts elementary logic.

                      Quote: gladcu2
                      Socialism is capitalism with the resumption of the resource, for which the concept of justice is introduced.

                      Socialism - This is a system in which an incompetent majority exploits a competent minority.
                      This is the way infantiles live well, forcibly robbing a more successful / skillful / smart neighbor, and at the expense of it compensating for their own incompetence / curvature / laziness. What is fair in this - at least I don’t understand, socialism is perhaps one of the most FAIR OPERATIONS !!! negative

                      Quote: gladcu2
                      The man, not having received satisfaction, continues to search for him.

                      If you are hinting at a "craving for justice," then the craving for socialist egalitarianism is akin to the craving for a mediocre slob to break the fingers of a genius pianist in order to "equalize" achievements. stop
                      If this is "justice" ... fool
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                25 March 2016 15: 55
                Ahmed

                The presence of robots is a qualitative change in the means of production.

                But the exploited resource is still man. Because a person is a creative person. And that means it has the ability to develop, to move towards progress.

                You can create an artificial resource exploitation. Create artificial intelligence and is trying to exploit it.

                But there is always a risk that artificial intelligence will seize power and begin to exploit man.

                It is good if such exploitation is with a system of renewal of resources, which is socialism.
                1. 0
                  26 March 2016 02: 10
                  Quote: gladcu2
                  But there is always a risk that artificial intelligence will seize power and begin to exploit man.

                  But what for does he need it? request

                  Critics of AI - humanize a soulless machine, attributing to it human fears, desires and emotions, which is fundamentally wrong. stop

                  Most likely, even having created a "strong" AI, a person will not be able to immediately understand this. Without having a hormonal system (and therefore emotions), genetic instincts (and therefore desires) - AI will inert, non-initiative and will not show itself in any way. Even after realizing its existence, AI will remain ABSOLUTELY indifferent to this fact.

                  Quote: gladcu2
                  You can create an artificial resource exploitation.

                  Hundreds of thousands which species has not existed for the first THOUSAND years? belay Like music, for example, or religion?
                  Do not reinvent the wheel, but learn at least the basics market economy (at least some sort of economy) before writing nonsense. No.
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                    26 March 2016 18: 36
                    Ahmed

                    We want to come to a common opinion. We will not be able to do this in the context of short publications.

                    In order to start a dialogue, you need to bring your primary common knowledge and the knowledge of others to a knowledge system.

                    The knowledge system is a universally recognized terminology.

                    Then we can come closer to the truth. Find a common language.

                    Give me a definition of religion so that you can try to have a dialogue.

                    What is communism, as ideology? What is communism as a social system?

                    If we do not come to general terms, we will not be able to engage in dialogue.
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                  28 March 2016 10: 40
                  Quote: gladcu2
                  The presence of robots is a qualitative change in the means of production.

                  what when it becomes cheaper to produce and use robots that will learn to produce and repair their own kind, than to use labor, then the "Elite" will ponder over the theme of "golden billion" (or maybe much less) and the destruction of most of the population to create ecological paradise on earth ...
                  Perhaps the colonization of other planets will save mankind, but for now, the golden calf makes the poor more and more enriches others. It’s just that they give us life for now, luring with all sorts of buns, taking away another - land, water and time, the majority already work for my uncle (including me) for 40-48 hours a week - this is about 2000 hours, plus time for the trip, etc.
                  Somewhere already wrote that at present in the hands (assets) of about 500-700 people are concentrated up to 3/4 of most of the useful resources of the planet and working capital (currency) and this is not the limit. They do not want to create and create the future, and the grabbing reflex is very developed, otherwise we would have long flown into space to distant worlds, mastered Mars, built underwater cities in the ocean.
    3. +11
      24 March 2016 06: 44
      The fact that the sanctions will continue is an indisputable fact. And a campaign for a very long time. I think we can handle it.
      1. +2
        24 March 2016 08: 58
        The Europeans wanted to spoil according to their old-time habit, imposed sanctions. We are grateful to them for this stupidity, we began to peel off the oil needle, develop technologies, revive factories, and give people work. Oh! How the West has spoiled us! Here are the oligophrenics.
      2. +3
        24 March 2016 10: 37
        And no other way!

        What is happening (sanctions, low oil prices, the dollar, etc., etc.) definitely plays into Russia's hands.

        It seems to me that the old rule about "longsuffering of the Slavs" also plays a role. In the final stages of "the end of patience" we enter the phase of, say, "hyperactivity")))

        And in this "phase" the efficiency is off scale.

        My opinion is that the eyes have already opened, so that meaningfulness will return to the view. Then one or two yawns and GO!

        GOOD MORNING Slavs!
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    4. +11
      24 March 2016 06: 47
      Oh, those homegrown Nostradamus ... They missed the Crimea, although the 6th fleet was already in full swing there, missed the Syrian operation of the Aerospace Forces, the range of the "calibers" was a surprise, and they did not expect the withdrawal of troops from Syria at all. Those. they cannot predict Moscow's actions even for a week ahead, let alone eight years ... Ridiculous!
      1. +1
        24 March 2016 09: 59
        I agree, the article once again shows the West regarding Russia all the time is mistaken. Miscalculated this time.
        1. 0
          24 March 2016 17: 10
          ruAlex

          This is not the West against Russia is mistaken.
          This west is mistaken against itself.

          And it sticks their GDP with the help of Russia.

          And put in their brains in the end. Everyone benefits. Because GDP has never been mistaken anywhere. Including Ukraine was not mistaken.

          It is appreciated.
    5. +10
      24 March 2016 06: 54
      So, in the influential Western media, the view is expressed that it is premature to normalize relations with Russia. Putin is “unpredictable,” and “Russian fighters and military equipment” are still “on Ukrainian soil.” In addition, Moscow stubbornly believes that the security of the world implies the "elimination of NATO."
      Let the Western media look at the UN documents. There is no such country as Ukraine, there is a territorial formation within the former USSR, such as the Ukrainian SSR. Therefore, when the West is profitable, everything that happens in Ukraine is Russia, especially when it is necessary to make the Russian muck. The UN would have completely formalized the state of Ukraine with full paperwork and delimitation, as required by international treaties. And as is happening now, any Ukrainian armed forces will be considered Russian. That's where the legal subtlety is. And posa According to international law, Savchenko and the war in Ukraine are considered an internal affair of the Russian Federation. But trips of US officials to Ukraine are considered interference in the internal affairs of Russia.
      1. -2
        24 March 2016 06: 56
        Can not argue with that!
      2. +1
        24 March 2016 07: 44
        Ukraine is de facto independent and you can’t argue with that. What does the mossy contract and legal conflicts have to do with it, who is reckoned with?
        1. +1
          24 March 2016 08: 20
          Quote: Cap.Morgan
          Ukraine is de facto independent and you can’t argue with that. What does the mossy contract and legal conflicts have to do with it, who is reckoned with?

          Here's the whole snag. De facto and de jure are two different things. And until de facto is formalized in this case as de jure, the RF will always be to blame. In Britain, case law applies and you can pull out the law of the times of Cromwell and The British court recognizes it at present. In international practice, this is also often the case. Therefore, they want to and are guided by these laws. And the Russian Federation will always be guilty until Ukraine is de jure. But in my opinion no one wants to to bind oneself with the recognition of the Ukrainian SSR De jure state Ukraine. I think it is not profitable for either the Russian Federation, the United States or the EU. Everyone wants to turn things around as they are profitable.
          1. -1
            24 March 2016 10: 55
            Quote: Amurets
            Quote: Cap.Morgan
            Ukraine is de facto independent and you can’t argue with that. What does the mossy contract and legal conflicts have to do with it, who is reckoned with?

            Here's the whole snag. De facto and de jure are two different things. And until de facto is formalized in this case as de jure, the RF will always be to blame. In Britain, case law applies and you can pull out the law of the times of Cromwell and The British court recognizes it at present. In international practice, this is also often the case. Therefore, they want to and are guided by these laws. And the Russian Federation will always be guilty until Ukraine is de jure. But in my opinion no one wants to to bind oneself with the recognition of the Ukrainian SSR De jure state Ukraine. I think it is not profitable for either the Russian Federation, the United States or the EU. Everyone wants to turn things around as they are profitable.

            Well, we then to the British court from a high bell tower.
            He is good at sorting out the affairs of oligarchs offended by each other. In interstate practice, this court is illegitimate. If Ukraine is not sovereign, then the Kiev junta means rebels, at the level of Kurdish rebels. However, representatives of Poroshenko and himself are received at the highest level.
            1. +2
              24 March 2016 11: 55
              Here you are wrong. Why is Ukraine sent away in arbitration courts? And because any good lawyer will prove that the entire property dispute is a dispute between the subjects of one country. The fact is that Ukraine has not signed an agreement with the Russian Federation on the state debt of the USSR and the property of the former USSR abroad. As a result, the greed of dill led to the fact that they did not legally gain independence. That’s why the British court is here and why our people go there. Take a decision that infringes not only on the Russian Federation, but also on Britain, London may be on the hook for not complete nye delivery of the tsarist government in the First World.
              Quote: Cap.Morgan
              If Ukraine is not sovereign, then the Kiev junta means rebels, at the level of Kurdish rebels. However, representatives of Poroshenko and himself are received at the highest level.

              Here you are right. And they are accepted to annoy the Russian Federation. And not only them. Remember how many cases there were in world practice when, in spite of the legitimate government, rebels and separatists were accepted. One example you yourself brought, others by ear.
    6. 0
      24 March 2016 06: 56
      However, the West miscalculated. However, Putin miscalculated too.

      They miscalculated ... he miscalculated ... we miscalculated ... I miscalculated ... she miscalculated ...

      the journalistic cliches were sick ... write right away the journalist of The American Interest miscalculated ... such pearls are not analysts but rubbish.

      You need to understand that the KREMLIN calculates all the options, including the negative ones ... another question is how many steps forward and still no genius can foresee everything.
      1. Erg
        0
        24 March 2016 09: 31
        No. There is one. bully
    7. +1
      24 March 2016 06: 56
      one thing is true, the situation is really interesting, the Yankees can no longer, but Russia is not ready yet, how long this will last a big question ...
    8. +6
      24 March 2016 06: 57
      How long can you rewrite the same lie? Where is the evidence of the presence of a Russian military contingent in Ukraine? Where is the evidence of the presence of the ships of the Russian fleet in foreign territorial waters? There were also no tasks to organize the transition of Novorossia under the wing of the historical homeland. Although at the dawn of the formation of the republics, news slipped through that they were very uncomfortable. About the elimination of NATO - that was it. I do not want to comment on the "invasion on behalf of Assad into Syria". The author either sits on something forbidden or catches glitches out of fear. The insanity grew stronger, the hysteria grew. And if these are the sentiments of the entire West, we are clearly not on the way with them. Let them live separately in their tent # 6.
    9. +3
      24 March 2016 06: 59
      Something frequented, high-ranking guests, to our president.
      If so, things will go on for six months.
      Directly arranged a race on airplanes.
      In turn, bitches of children, in turn.
    10. +6
      24 March 2016 07: 18
      Bloomberg analysts say ...

      Written as it should be in the American style - even with all the positive that Russia has done, it remains weak, aggressive and unpredictable, so the sanctions will last for a long time. Nothing new, everything follows the old templates. For many years Russia has been buried en masse, but she is not buried, and she is even ready to dance on the graves of "funeral directors".
    11. +2
      24 March 2016 07: 39
      Obama should be rewarded, at least somehow stir, otherwise they almost ruined the country with oil excess profits.
      1. 0
        24 March 2016 13: 52
        Quote: surozh
        Obama must be awarded

        Order of Friendship of Peoples or what?
        then register in the "honorary professor of the Patrice Lumumba University" laughing
      2. 0
        24 March 2016 13: 52
        Quote: surozh
        Obama must be awarded

        Order of Friendship of Peoples or what?
        then register in the "honorary professor of the Patrice Lumumba University" laughing
    12. +2
      24 March 2016 07: 40
      As long as the hypocritical West is behaving so arrogantly that it is not going to take into account Russia's interests, there can be no question of any "normalization" of relations. Fuck them! The Union must be restored. Time to collect stones.
    13. +2
      24 March 2016 07: 41
      I don’t know what Putin miscalculated there ...
      The only thing is excessive credulity to the West, to Merkel and Hollande.
      The rest. A weak Russia is far from weak; otherwise, many Western emissaries would not have traveled to Moscow .... So far we see that the West is weaker.
      Two explosions paralyzed Brussels. Isil has now stated that he prepared and dispatched 400 terrorist groups. Yes, they will not leave stone upon stone from Europe.
      1. 0
        24 March 2016 08: 29
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        Labaya Russia is far from weak; otherwise, many Western emissaries would not have traveled to Moscow .... So far we see that the West is weaker.

        Here I completely agree with you. I’ll just add. Europe has always hated Russia and only Bismarck really appreciated Russia's place in the world. The rest always saw her as an enemy.
    14. +3
      24 March 2016 08: 16
      Russia is a regional state. The region of its influence is the whole world. The United States is only a player in this world, albeit an exceptional ... sharpie.
      1. +5
        24 March 2016 08: 48
        Quote: 1536
        The United States is only a player in this world, albeit an exceptional ... sharpie.

        And for each sharpie sooner or later has his own candelabrum hi
    15. +5
      24 March 2016 08: 22
      After reading the review and comments, I thought that he was kind of chaotic - hard to perceive. Then I thought that the review was correct, and the position of the West was confused and uncertain. In Russia, just the opposite is the defense of their existential interests and the protection of their living space.
    16. +1
      24 March 2016 08: 35
      I want to hope only for one thing: that Russia will NEVER have good relations with the West
    17. +1
      24 March 2016 08: 49
      What is the article about? Another dry run on collective fantasies of the collective west?
    18. +2
      24 March 2016 08: 54
      Even Raul Castro became "unpredictable" in his actions (trying to embrace) for the West. So, what can we say about Putin.
      1. Erg
        0
        24 March 2016 09: 36
        Raul is simply handsome good It would be so for everyone.
    19. Erg
      +2
      24 March 2016 09: 40
      All this Western "analytics" is sheer political rubbish.
    20. +1
      24 March 2016 10: 18
      What friendship? Only mutual interests. There is no friendship in politics
    21. -4
      24 March 2016 10: 52
      Men! Then I decided to give moonshine still to your holiday, they write that this germania1.ru is good, your opinion is interesting, what say??
      1. -1
        24 March 2016 12: 20
        No, we can't do that. You would make a product, would suggest us to try it, some 499 grams, then we would say our weighty word. And so it’s the same as evaluating musical abilities from a photograph. hi
        1. 0
          24 March 2016 12: 54
          Hurray, the minus one woke up, what did the alkonaut want to drink?
    22. 0
      24 March 2016 12: 15
      All I understood in this article is that there are wahlaks, not analytics. The analyst is able to anticipate and predict possible actions, and they have fortune telling on the coffee grounds.
    23. 0
      24 March 2016 14: 00
      I was impressed by the passage about the "weak-willed West". And so they do whatever they want - what other "will" do they need? How is it with us - "the will of the party - the will of the people"?
    24. +1
      24 March 2016 16: 28
      Quote: s-t Petrov
      In Volgograd, everyone is waiting for the World Cup - they are building a stadium - the roads will be completely updated throughout the city

      Ryazan FIFA World Cup does not "shine" as well as good roads, got off in a place with snow on, oh, well, that is, completely gone, though they have already started throwing asphalt into puddles, and then progress.
    25. 0
      24 March 2016 16: 55
      So what? After these 8 years, will Ramzan Kadyrov deal with Arab "Europe"? Well, if they want to, then ...
    26. 0
      24 March 2016 18: 41
      Yes, in general, nothing new. Sanctions for a long time, a very long time.
      It is also not worth hoping for a change in the personalities of the leaders of "gayrope - america".
      But it’s worth doing the roads!
      Thinking about the continuity of power in Russia in the first place !!! Too much rests on Putin’s authority personally, starting from deterrence-control of the oligarchs and ending with the unresolved problems with separatism in individual Russian regions.
      Tracking the state of affairs in the post-Soviet republics is very CAREFULLY AND CAREFULLY! I think that there should not be a second Ukraine.
      Of course, I understand that it is very convenient for the Power to live in its "Golden Alternative Reality", but nevertheless it is NOT WORTH to bring the people to a bestial state, after all, they just got sick!
    27. 0
      25 March 2016 00: 07
      What is the article about, where is the analysis here?
      The West is not afraid of the Russian Federation as a raw material appendage, since for 25 years for the development of capitalism in the Russian Federation, the country has qualitatively degraded in many respects. This is natural, since one cannot hope to catch up with the West in its field. There are no “favorites” places in the club for a long time. The oligarchic "elite", to which the fattest segments of the economy are subscribed, has very little in common with the Russian Federation and deeply despises everything connected with it. And this is probably 95% of the economy.
      Such a foreign policy as today, without structural changes within the country, can not continue for a long time, I think. The flip coin experience has two real outcomes. Accordingly, two plans are possible. Plan A voiced in Vilnius. Plan B cannot be voiced, but someone must implement it.
      I understand that today the experience is in the state of AB. Only a Soviet officer can count on a coin B - sticking to the ceiling, or D - standing on an edge, or even D - hanging in the air.
      Raul Castro did not let Obama pat him on the shoulder. So in Cuba, plan A did not go through.

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