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The National Interest: Surprise! Russian tank T-14 entered production

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The newest Russian project of the Armata universal tracked platform, on the basis of which it is proposed to build several types of combat vehicles, continues to haunt the minds in our country and abroad. Industry and the military are in no hurry to disclose all the information about the new project, which is why any fresh news leads to very interesting results. Thus, the foreign press cannot go past the news about the new Russian project.


Among other things, the American edition of The National Interest responded to the latest news about Armata. On March 13, it published an article by Dave Majumdar titled “Surprise: Russia's Lethal T-14 Armata Tank Is in Production” (“Surprise: the deadly Russian T-14 tank“ Armata ”went into production”). The author of this publication reviewed the latest news about the latest Russian project, and also noted some of its features.

D. Majumdar begins his article with a statement of fact: the newest Russian main battle tank T-14, created in the framework of the Armata project, has already entered production. Last year, several such combat vehicles were shown during a parade on Red Square on Victory Day. At that time, most foreign analysts believed that the Armata family of vehicles was still in the development and development stage. Nevertheless, as follows from the latest statements by the leadership of the Russian industry, the new equipment has already gone into series.

The National Interest: Surprise! Russian tank T-14 entered production


The author of The National Interest recalls that the new information on the progress of the promising project was disclosed by the head of the Rostec state corporation, Sergey Chemezov, in his recent interview for The Wall Street Journal. In the course of the interview, American journalists raised the question of the influence of economic problems on the course of new projects. The head of "Rostec" noted that the equipment of the Armat family is already being produced in series.

S. Chemezov said that due to economic difficulties a decision was made to suspend work on new projects. Already started development, in turn, will be brought to a logical end. The management of the industry does not see the point in stopping these works, since such a decision will not allow to get the expected results, as well as lead to large financial losses. Thus, all started projects will be completed, and only some promising ones will be reduced.

D. Majumdar recalls that, according to open sources, the Armata family of vehicles includes the T-14 main tank, the T-15 heavy infantry fighting vehicle, and the T-16 armored recovery and recovery vehicle. In addition, the appearance of some other models of military equipment on a unified chassis is expected. So, there is evidence of the appearance of a sample that has already been called the “killer tanks". While the main T-14 tank receives a 125-mm 2A82-1M gun, the promising Tank Killer should carry a 152 gun. It is likely that this gun will be based on the weapons of the 2C35 Coalition-SV self-propelled gun.

Last year, the TV program “Military Acceptance” of the Zvezda channel showed for the first time a new technique, both outside and inside. In particular, the authors of the program were allowed to show the interior of the habitable compartment of a promising tank. Such shootings made a great impression on domestic and foreign specialists.

As the author of The National Interest notes, the published shots clearly demonstrate the placement of a crew of three in a common capsule, isolated from other units of the tank. Crew workstations are equipped with various instruments, including touch screens that simplify management. The interface of the tank control systems and its systems looks simple and intuitive. In addition, there is reason to believe that the new tank received communications and control equipment, which allows receiving and transmitting information about the situation on the battlefield. Finally, satellite navigation systems are used.

One of the most interesting features of the promising tank T-14 "Armata" D. Majumdar calls the new complex of active protection "Afganit". According to available data, the active radar with electronic scanning is included in this system, providing observation of the entire surrounding space. Also, the system should include electronic warfare equipment and optical-electronic suppression. For the destruction of approaching enemy ammunition is proposed a separate element of the complex. On the tower of the combat vehicle are mounted several launchers for shooting protective ammunition. According to some data, the use of ammunition, forming the so-called. shock core.

The active protection complexes show the greatest effectiveness when working against an ammunition with an explosive charge (anti-tank grenades or missiles), whereas kinetic projectiles are a more difficult target. The use of the shock core suggests that the "Afghan" with the same success will be able to deal with both cumulative / high-explosive and sub-caliber armor-piercing projectiles.

Referring to the directory The Military Balance 2016, D. Majumdar notes another important feature of the T-14 project. The compilers of this handbook believe that the most revolutionary innovation of the new Russian project is the use of a completely uninhabited tower. In addition, emphasis is placed on remedies, including active ones. When creating a complex of protection was used the existing experience of combat use.

In case of adopting the T-14, the Armata will be the first main battle tank in the world equipped with an uninhabited fighting compartment and an active defense complex. Analysts suggest that widespread active protection will reduce the effectiveness of rocket launchers and anti-tank missiles, as well as reduce their role on the battlefield. Thus, the growing importance of artillery systems of tanks and other equipment will be provoked.

Nevertheless, D. Majumdar considers stealth as the best way to survive on the battlefield. In this regard, as noted, the Russian designers have achieved some success. It is already clear that the project "Armata" provides for a significant reduction in the visibility of armored vehicles for radar and thermal imaging detection. Thus, the task of detecting and tracking combat vehicles becomes more complicated.

If the armored vehicle is still able to be detected, then the enemy enemy projectile will have to first overcome the active defense complex. Then he will face a new dynamic protection such as "Malachite." Finally, the last line of defense is combined armor. The composition of the armor protection of the body "Almaty" is still classified, but D. Majumdar believes that in its composition are used ceramic elements. Also part of the units of armored vehicles are covered with screens to protect against anti-tank weapons.

The Russian project of a unified platform for the construction of various equipment has already become a cause for concern for foreign experts. To date, some plans have been announced for the development of armored vehicles, which should lead to a response to the T-14. So, Germany launched a modernization project for the Leopard 2 tank with the installation of a new 130 caliber mm gun. In addition, the German industry plans to begin developing a completely new tank MGCS (Main Ground Combat System - "The main ground combat system").

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As you know, the staff of The National Interest, as if proceeding from its name, show great interest in new Russian projects in the field of armaments and military equipment. For this reason, they do not disregard any more or less significant news. The statements of S. Chemezov about the production of the newest main tanks T-14 did not go unnoticed either. In addition, as always, some general features of the project were considered and certain conclusions were made.

It should be noted that such a reaction of the foreign press can hardly be surprising. Since the announcement of the start of work on “Armata”, foreign media began to regularly cover this project, and the demonstration of several tanks of the first batch had a great effect. The echoes of the furore, superimposed on the new messages about the progress of the project, still lead to the appearance of publications similar to the latest article in The National Interest.

Positive reviews of foreign media about Russian developments are often a cause for suspicion. Indeed, such publications may well be part of a specific plan for the defense industry of third countries. Talking about the high rates and, importantly, the dangers of the newest Russian armaments and equipment, the foreign press can help promote some developments in the domestic industry. In other words, the press provides the necessary information background and “prepares” responsible persons, and the industry offers its own projects, which, however, need government funding. As a result, companies receive financial support, and states renew the material part of the troops. And all these processes are submitted in the guise of a reaction to a potential threat.

Although such publications are intended for an “internal consumer,” they are of great interest to other readers. With their help, you can imagine what impression Russian developments have on foreign specialists. Moreover, to assess not only the general impression, but also the fears associated with the future production of these developments. From this point of view, new publications in foreign media look extremely interesting and informative. Thus, it makes sense to follow the enthusiasm and fear of foreign experts - this will allow you to find out the current situation and to anticipate some events of the foreseeable future.


The article "Surprise: Russia's Lethal T-14 Armata Tank Is in Production":
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  1. Приговор
    Приговор 23 March 2016 06: 27
    +14
    Good news. If by 2020 we receive 2300 new T-14s, which seems to be planned, then this will be very unpleasant news for our "partners". The T-72B will also be upgraded to the level of the T-72B3M, and this profoundly changes them for the better. I hope that the T-90A will continue to be purchased. While we are the first tank power in the world, we need to keep it that way. In general, I will hold my fist for our Rogozin, let him do everything right! ..;)
    1. yehat
      yehat 23 March 2016 08: 13
      +21
      we don’t need to be the first or 30th tank power, we just need to have an adequate fleet of equipment. NOT a fight is going on.
      1. mihasik
        mihasik 23 March 2016 10: 52
        +10
        Quote: yehat
        we don’t need to be the first or 30th tank power, we just need to have an adequate fleet of equipment. NOT a fight is going on.

        In a conflict with NATO, the entire aggregate tank fleet of the bloc will be used against us. If we consider the adequacy of the amount of equipment against the NATO bloc, then this will be the first tank power. Since the number of tanks of 28 NATO countries should be equal to the number of tanks of one Russia. Or do we have allies to dilute the balance of power?) Just don't remind about the CSTO). Or maybe "adequacy" should be calculated on the basis of individual NATO countries, such as the Baltic states, Romania or Bulgaria?)
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 23 March 2016 23: 06
          +3
          Since the number of tanks of 28 countries of the NATO bloc should be equal to the number of tanks of one Russia.


          Is it even possible? and if you consider that they have not only tanks, but also planes, and God forbid ships and "light" armored vehicles weighing up to 50 tons, but also infantry
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 March 2016 08: 34
      +9
      Quote: Sentence
      I hope that the T-90A will continue to be purchased.

      Declare that the T-90A will be upgraded to the T-90SM.

      And also, there is an idea to create, say, an "unmanned" T-90 (without a crew), controlled remotely.
      1. Приговор
        Приговор 23 March 2016 08: 56
        +6
        T-90SM is an export option, we will have T-90AM in service.
      2. Sailor
        Sailor 23 March 2016 09: 40
        +10
        And I look like the T-90AM even more than Armata, and it’s possible to put Afganit on it and it’s less difficult to get it in size, respectively, with the same LMS promto class.
      3. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn 23 March 2016 09: 56
        0
        Is the Alice project alive and well?
      4. Engineer
        Engineer 23 March 2016 11: 15
        +3
        It can’t be like this - upgrading the T-90A to the T-90AM level (not SM) will affect everything from the engine to a completely different tower, there only the case is the same and that is not a fact because of the other built-in dynamic protection. Production from scratch will be cheaper explicitly.
      5. Svetoch
        Svetoch 23 March 2016 23: 42
        0
        Tell knowledgeable people. Why is the tower shoulder strap not defended? Or is it not relevant?
    3. VENOM
      VENOM 23 March 2016 09: 32
      +1
      Not so deep, unfortunately ...
      http://topwar.ru/35631-t-72b3chto-eto-za-zver-chast-1.html
      In short - there are questions about the fire control system, and the protection of the tank, and mobility
    4. max702
      max702 23 March 2016 14: 35
      +3
      Regarding the "Kill Tank" with a 152mm gun, it seems to me that a large-caliber assault gun with a high level of protection for operations in urbanized areas is relevant today, and not another tank destroyer or just an SPG .. The experience of battles in Syria showed that the infantry needs a large caliber with a DB in cities, that is, a shot should cause maximum damage, a tank 125mm OFS is good, but no comparison in terms of power with an OFS 152mm. In addition, extremely small aiming angles do not allow performing the entire range of tasks, and in classic ACS 122- 152mm extremely low armor, which again does not allow them to be used in urban areas. So it turns out that on the basis of "Armata" it is possible to create a powerful highly protected system .. Judging by the geometric dimensions of the chassis of the "Armata" platform, it is capable of carrying a load of 65-70 tons, which will allow installing a powerful 152 mm gun from the same "hyacinth" into a well-armored the tower at the same time, the same carrying capacity will make it possible to install an Epoch-type module with a full range of weapons on the tower, which will successfully complement the main weapon, the tower gun may well be fully automatic, which again will allow leaving the regular crew of 3 people, the gunner is engaged in the gun, the commander through the "epoch" module it searches for targets, and also has the ability to destroy them on its own, plus covers the vehicle when reloading and maneuvering. As a cheaper option, you can consider the installation of a complex from the ACS "Vena" in an armored turret and a module with 7.62 \ 12.7 \ AGS for the commander .. 120mm projectile is close in power to 152mm, aiming angles -4 \ +80, and the module with 7.62 \ 12.7 will also allow you to give target designation and cover the vehicle when reloading and maneuvering .. However, the second option can also be installed on a less lifting chassis from T-72 tanks ..
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 23 March 2016 20: 32
        0
        Max702. In my opinion. Since the gas venting mechanism is not needed, the barrel from the Coalition can be made shorter with the same power. There was some kind of experimental tank with a 152mm barrel. So it will most likely be stuck (why "throw away" the work in vain). And such tanks, in my opinion, should be used as part of conventional ones - then no additional is needed. armament as you suggest. And then, the very size of the shells - you can't drag in much, and the fur. loading needs to be redone. Therefore, the tower will turn out to be different than the T-14. hi
        With a barrel of 152 mm. all questions on firepower from competitors will disappear. laughing I don't think the T-14 is in the series; but you can start making some "blanks" if it is "hot".
        1. max702
          max702 24 March 2016 00: 38
          +1
          Quote: Kasym
          With a barrel of 152 mm. all questions about firepower from competitors will disappear. I don't think the T-14 is in the series; but you can start making some "blanks" if it is "hot".

          For that matter, an ultra-long-range gun is not needed for this type of equipment, the main indicator is the power of the OFS for those purposes that face this vehicle, the aiming angles and ammunition capacity are more important, paradoxically, in principle, the guns from NONA \ Vienna are enough in cramped urban conditions. throwing a projectile over a nine-story building on a mortar is expensive and was very often used in the same Grozny, while direct fire from minus targets and to the uppermost floors of buildings is also often in demand, and the cheapness of the gun itself and the projectile to it (any mines , and its own projectile, which was considered the most technologically advanced in the USSR), as well as the striking ability close to 152mm, but there are also drawbacks - it is hemorrhage with automatic loading, I don’t know if they could solve this problem on the "Vienna" if they could solve that simple weapon from " Vienna "with all machinery we place in a well-booked tower (with an emphasis on anti-cumulative booking) over hu put some kind of module for the commander and all the assault weapon is ready. You can use a cannon from a geocynt, but I don't know how it will work along a hinged trajectory, and the price of this solution is interesting .. I will repeat this by no means a tank, this assault weapon, remember when was the last tank battles? Perhaps the Irano Iraqi war .. After that they fought with a clear advantage of one of the sides or the clashes were small in scale. The tanks gradually forgot what they were made for, namely to support the infantry! And in recent years, they have turned into tank destroyers, especially from Western "partners". Regarding the module, looking at the video chronicle of the Syrian conflict, it is clear that the attack on armored vehicles occurs at the time of reloading, the tank at this time becomes defenseless, the commander's machine gun is clearly not enough due to poor protection and wretchedness of sighting devices, support from our own is often difficult for various reasons, and therefore, a sufficiently armed and equipped module will make this combat unit self-sufficient.
      2. bk316
        bk316 23 March 2016 21: 45
        +6
        Quote: max702
        the most powerful 152 mm gun from the same "hyacinth" into a well-armored turret

        Can I get a little to the side?
        How did all the same in the Union were able to do things for centuries.
        I urgently served as the commander of 2A36 (towed hyacinth), and my grandchildren will soon retire now, and a century or another, and the gun can be put on perspective танк
      3. bk316
        bk316 23 March 2016 21: 45
        +2
        Quote: max702
        the most powerful 152 mm gun from the same "hyacinth" into a well-armored turret

        Can I get a little to the side?
        How did all the same in the Union were able to do things for centuries.
        I urgently served as the commander of 2A36 (towed hyacinth), and my grandchildren will soon retire now, and a century or another, and the gun can be put on perspective танк
    5. Sirocco
      Sirocco 23 March 2016 14: 51
      +10
      Quote: Sentence
      Good news. If by 2020 we get 2300 new T-14s,

      All this is good, the main thing that would not be like in this anecdote from our servants. laughing
      1. Evrepid
        Evrepid 31 March 2016 15: 38
        0
        Army humor. :)
        Here you are not there :)
        And disgrace him. :)
  2. Aleksandr72
    Aleksandr72 23 March 2016 06: 43
    +15
    Among others, the American edition of The National Interest reacted to the latest news about "Armata". On March 13, it published an article by Dave Majumdar titled "Surprise: Russia's Lethal T-14 Armata Tank Is in Production" ("Surprise: Russia's lethal T-14 Armata Tank Is in Production").

    Again this EXPERT! Wow - "Armata" went into the series - and it was an unpleasant surprise for the West! I wonder what they smoke there. Did the States and Geyrope seriously believe that Russia would limit itself to assembling several copies of the "Armata" just to demonstrate them to the world at the Victory Parade and to flex their muscles. Lavrov was right about such people ...
    And the fact that the "Armata" is already in the series is good news, as well as the modernization of old-model tanks. You cannot be weak in the present world - they will devour!
    I have the honor.
  3. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 23 March 2016 07: 08
    +1
    I wonder what other vehicles will be imr, title, bmr, paver, baht, and other heavy engineering equipment on a tank chassis.
    By the way, on the UVZ website there are t-14, 15 in the product catalog.
    1. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 23 March 2016 08: 54
      +2
      A heavy fire-fighting vehicle on the Armata chassis has already been demonstrated - a serious device!
      1. 11 black
        11 black 23 March 2016 14: 12
        +1
        Quote: cth; fyn
        I wonder what other vehicles will be imr, title, bmr, paver, baht, and other heavy engineering equipment on a tank chassis.
        By the way, on the UVZ website there are t-14, 15 in the product catalog.

        Quote: Evgeniy667b
        A heavy fire-fighting vehicle on the Armata chassis has already been demonstrated - a serious device!

        You may be confusing the fire fighting robot Uranus ... About Armata - there is already a tank, infantry fighting vehicles and armored vehicles, they also promise to put a coalition on it.


        This "hellish" car was especially impressive
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  4. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 23 March 2016 07: 20
    0
    The Americans did not manage to screw up the "Armata", in spite of the enemies they launched it into a series.
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 23 March 2016 23: 49
      +2
      Yeah, until the end of the trial operation. Purely in Russian :)
  5. Crown
    Crown 23 March 2016 07: 36
    +2
    Auxiliary equipment can also be made on the chassis of the T-72 and other tanks. Armata will be an iron fist. And modernized tanks to help.
    1. Flinky
      Flinky 23 March 2016 08: 22
      +1
      To do, of course, is possible and necessary. But only while there are stocks of spare parts for these chassis. They are not eternal. Armata is a unified platform, and that’s it. And if not said, google what unification is.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 23 March 2016 13: 41
        +3
        Quote: Flinky
        But only while there are stocks of spare parts for these chassis. They are not eternal.
        In addition to the T-72 reserves (large reserves), there is the T-90, which has not been discontinued, with a reliable and long-mastered base. To make bridgelayers on the basis of the expensive and complex T-14, and so on ... Well, this is how to buy a "boot" for a small business based on Benkley or Lexus, about the same in terms of rationality. Of course, the "menagers" from the defense industry will be happy with expensive orders, but will they not tear the navels themselves, the monopolists, when they bombed competitors, the same Omsk Tank Plant, and with practically one tank building center, intending to re-equip armored units so radically with a far from cheap vehicle? , comparable in price to 3-4 T-90 tanks.
  6. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 23 March 2016 07: 45
    +2
    Quote: cth; fyn
    By the way, on the UVZ website there are t-14, 15 in the product catalog.

    You want to say that you can buy a couple in the garage ... belay
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 23 March 2016 09: 54
      +1
      Well, if you are a customer from the Russian Ministry of Defense, then yes.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 23 March 2016 14: 56
        0
        Well, if you are a customer from the Russian Ministry of Defense, then yes.

        Do you know that the laws of the Russian Federation do not forbid have ordinary citizens tanks! Seriously! Of course, all weapons, probably part of the electronics, are removed from the tank, and then such a tank can be owned! bully
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 23 March 2016 17: 18
          +1
          It is possible, but most likely you still will not be sold a tank. It was also possible to purchase a tank from us in the 90s. Of course, the weapons were removed, the tower, too. I heard that they bought for fun, the benefit of the price tag was so-so: if you didn’t use it for transportation, it was about $ 2000 (recyclable materials), but if you could register it, it was about $ 20000. True, people didn’t buy tanks, but artillery tractors and mtlb for export the woods. There are photos on the Internet. Then, at the beginning of 2000, they closed the bench. The reason is a possible double use. Of course, no one was afraid that the people on improvised tanks would rush to overthrow the government :) It was just an opportunity to purchase decommissioned tracked equipment for ridiculous money and export it as transport equipment abroad. There, most likely, the chassis were used to repair their tanks. And the money floated past the cash register - the difference between the price for scrap metal and the price for the same equipment as the repair kit.
          So, most likely you will no longer be sold to private traders for purely commercial reasons. It is unlikely that Rosvooruzhenie will tolerate such competitors :)
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 23 March 2016 23: 55
            +1
            bye, in the 90s, also news to me. In Ukraine, large-scale sales of military equipment took place, and so, right on the highway in the Carpathians, the BRDM stood with a price tag around 2010, stood there for a long time, and saw it there a couple of times.
        2. cth; fyn
          cth; fyn 23 March 2016 18: 48
          +2
          I saw VKontakte selling the T-64, according to the documents of the tractor, in fact a demilitarized tank.
  7. NEXUS
    NEXUS 23 March 2016 08: 16
    +3
    The news is great. 2300 T-14 until the 20th year is not very bad. I would like to know if the T-15, Boomerang and Coalition were allowed into the series.
  8. Nehist
    Nehist 23 March 2016 08: 48
    +4
    Are you so naive people? An experimental batch has been released which is being tested by troops. Oh, how far!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 March 2016 08: 56
      +2
      Quote: Nehist
      Are you so naive people? An experimental batch has been released which is being tested by troops. Oh, how far!

      Launched in Russia mass production of a tank that belongs to the Armata family - Such a statement was made by the head of Rostec Sergey Chemezov. He also noted that the release of the tank will take place despite financial problems and difficulties with oil, since a lot of money has already been invested in the development and it would not be rational to stop work.
      1. Nehist
        Nehist 23 March 2016 09: 34
        +2
        The fact that the head of Rostec announced that will fall under the article! If he really stated this
        1. minirulet
          minirulet 23 March 2016 13: 16
          +1
          I completely agree. To say is not to do. Just another PR move by Chemezov. Like, URAAA, Comrades, we overtook and overtook! And in fact? This is how we will see the Armata in units, at training ranges, in hostilities somewhere in Churkistan, then yes. I will say: "Well done, this is shown in practice." Patriotism is good, but in moderation. Yes, we have created, but it seems we are building slowly. But when they showed me the workshops where the Armata are assembled, I felt very sad. In wartime, T-34s were assembled in such workshops.
  9. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 23 March 2016 08: 53
    +1
    I personally don’t put anyone cons because I respect someone else’s opinion, so gentlemen, I’ll ask you visitors who put a minus to justify their action if it does not make it difficult, then everyone can understand what he’s wrong about.
  10. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 23 March 2016 09: 11
    +1
    No wonder it says: warned, then armed. How much has already been written and published about the T-14. The parade was finally shown. I don’t remember the latest armored vehicles being promoted in the USSR like this. Her appearance should be a surprise to the adversary, especially in battle, so that there was nothing to cover. And now those against whom this machine was created have already begun to fuss about the development of countermeasures. They read VO, all the posts of local experts from the sofa, and thoughts work from this. Think before you write.
    1. grandson of the hero
      grandson of the hero 23 March 2016 12: 54
      +1
      In my opinion, even a tenth of the tank’s capabilities are not directly stated. And all speculation and conjecture only contribute to the disruption of the digestive processes of a potential adversary. So, we are on the right track, comrades.
      And that before participating in real hostilities (even if it does not come to that), there will be something to "pleasantly" surprise.
  11. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 23 March 2016 10: 00
    +2
    Majumdar in his repertoire. He has not been seen for a long time winked
  12. Engineer
    Engineer 23 March 2016 11: 21
    0
    promising Tank Killer should carry a cannon of caliber 152. Most likely, this gun will be created on the basis of the weapons of the 2C35 Coalition-SV self-propelled gun.

    Nonsense, different ballistics, moreover, the Coalition’s cannon is much fresher than the cannon rolled in at facility 195.
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 23 March 2016 13: 29
      +3
      Quote: Engineer
      Nonsense, different ballistics
      The body of the 2A83 gun (T-95 tank) was based on the 2A65 howitzer-gun already mastered in production, which forms the basis of the Msta complex. However, unlike the latter, the 2A83 has smooth barrel walls. Moreover, the barrel inside has a chrome-plated coating, which made it possible to bring the pressure of the powder gases to 7700 atm, while for current tank guns it does not exceed the three thousandth mark. The barrel length was 47,25 calibers, which is 7200 mm in millimeters (for the 125-mm 2A46M - 51 caliber / 6381 mm). There is also a difference - the 2A83 bolt system differs significantly from the one used on the MSTA. The changes are caused by the need to work with an automatic loader. Why with the "Coalition" - "nonsense"?
  13. Kenneth
    Kenneth 23 March 2016 12: 43
    -5
    I am wildly sorry, and why the hell to us 2000 Armat. What kind of adversary will we wet with these tanks. Ukraine or Georgia - is there really not enough T-90. Maybe NATO. So with NATO with their superiority in the population, the economy does not need to fight tanks. In general, the modern war of highly developed countries will end in three days without any nuclear weapons. The bridges, power plants, roads and factories of the opponents will be destroyed by missiles and all this iron, that Abrams, that Armata will stand up.
    1. grandson of the hero
      grandson of the hero 23 March 2016 13: 01
      0
      My slippers burst with laughter. The rest of the shoe is still holding. A couple more of these comments, and his wife’s shoes will tear apart. Save my family budget!
      1. Kenneth
        Kenneth 23 March 2016 13: 06
        0
        Walk barefoot - good for health. At the same time, the indignant mind will cool down.
      2. Kenneth
        Kenneth 23 March 2016 13: 06
        0
        Walk barefoot - good for health. At the same time, the indignant mind will cool down.
        1. grandson of the hero
          grandson of the hero 23 March 2016 13: 22
          0
          I do not want to be like you, with frostbitten brains.
          1. Kenneth
            Kenneth 23 March 2016 16: 55
            0
            You would rather think and look at what a highly developed country does with an opponent. Iraq, Yugoslavia. You can’t even work very well with troops. Knock out supply routes and infrastructure, fuel supplies, power lines, enterprises, bridges. The opponent’s economy is getting up. In the Second World War, all this was in the rear; now, with the help of the Kyrgyz Republic and the BR, infrastructure elements can be moved quickly and efficiently. And all planes and tanks very quickly get up without supplies.
          2. Kenneth
            Kenneth 23 March 2016 16: 55
            0
            You would rather think and look at what a highly developed country does with an opponent. Iraq, Yugoslavia. You can’t even work very well with troops. Knock out supply routes and infrastructure, fuel supplies, power lines, enterprises, bridges. The opponent’s economy is getting up. In the Second World War, all this was in the rear; now, with the help of the Kyrgyz Republic and the BR, infrastructure elements can be moved quickly and efficiently. And all planes and tanks very quickly get up without supplies.
            1. cth; fyn
              cth; fyn 23 March 2016 18: 55
              +1
              And also for hospitals and peaceful tractors ....
              1. Kenneth
                Kenneth 23 March 2016 21: 54
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                This is called bombing in the Stone Age.
            2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 23 March 2016 19: 11
              +5
              Quote: Kenneth
              You’d better think and look at what a highly developed country does with an opponent

              So look, do mercy. The same Desert Storm. Much there MNF dispensed with tanks? And this is with global superiority in the air and absolute - in high-precision weapons. The Iraqi air defense was crushed, the MNF aviation worked for more than a month with virtually no resistance from Iraq. And all the same, when the hunters went ahead, it turned out that without tanks - nowhere.
              1. Kenneth
                Kenneth 23 March 2016 21: 53
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                Yah. Right without tanks anywhere. Maybe tell us about the local battle near Prokhorovka. Tanks were used there as mobile chargers for numerous gadgets, the lack of batteries to which was really a problem.
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 24 March 2016 11: 48
                  +1
                  Quote: Kenneth
                  Yah

                  Well, yes.
                  Quote: Kenneth
                  Maybe tell us about the local battle near Prokhorovka

                  And do you read - religion does not allow?
                  The 47 and 49 I infantry divisions and the republican guard division Nebuchadnesar against the 24 division, the Tavacal (resp. Guard) against the 1 tank, the 2 armored cavalry tanks are only Americans. Their seventh corps smashed the divisions of Talvasal, Medina and Adnan, 10, 12 and 52 armored divisions of the Iraqi army from extreme distances - lining up almost 1500 tanks in a row. The British attacked the 48 infantry and 52 tank divisions, destroyed 40 tanks in tank battles.
                  In general, the whole technology there was, by cracking Iraqi tanks by groups of Abrams and Bradley.
            3. Kasym
              Kasym 23 March 2016 20: 56
              +5
              Kenneth. Add to Andrey from Chelyubinsk. In Syria. The air defense, which was deployed by the Aerospace Forces after the downed Su-24, "blew" the entire Turkish Air Force. And also the equipment for electronic and electronic warfare. Over-the-horizon radars. Moscow with its air defense zone could repel the attack of 800 aircraft at the same time (or 1600KR) in the USSR (I think now no less). Livia also showed that they do not have so many high-precision ones. Where there is up to the size of Russia! So NATO members (if this is possible at all) with the RF Armed Forces will have to fight with meat. Tanks and infantry. The tank, by the way, is an "off-road vehicle" in its tracks. "Tanks are not afraid of dirt." Well, the main weapon on the tank is the barrel. "Artillery is the God of War". Where can we go without tanks - until the infantry stomps on their feet, eats them out - the territory is not occupied ?! This is perhaps the case in Hollywood. hi
            4. max702
              max702 24 March 2016 01: 11
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              Quote: Kenneth
              You would rather think and look at what a highly developed country does with an opponent. Iraq, Yugoslavia. You can’t even work very well with troops. Knock out supply routes and infrastructure, fuel supplies, power lines, enterprises, bridges. The opponent’s economy is getting up. In the Second World War, all this was in the rear; now, with the help of the Kyrgyz Republic and the BR, infrastructure elements can be moved quickly and efficiently. And all planes and tanks very quickly get up without supplies.

              All this can be done with total property of one of the parties, but when it does not have to be used by the ground forces, and the tank is their basis .. And the goals and strategies of the "developed" countries and ours are somewhat different, they will destroy a competitor to us to beat off another attack .. Syria was practically treated according to the "western" option, but nothing ended there, and Assad had to supply armored vehicles so that he would succeed.
            5. Dimka off
              Dimka off April 2 2016 15: 07
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              Quote: Kenneth
              You would rather think and look at what a highly developed country does with an opponent.

              In any war, the infantry puts an end to it and without tanks it is very weak and vulnerable.
    2. KaPToC
      KaPToC 23 March 2016 20: 21
      +1
      How do you imagine the destruction of roads, for example? High-precision weapons are used against highly important targets and these are not bridges or factories. The plant cannot be destroyed with one rocket or several.
  14. minirulet
    minirulet 23 March 2016 13: 06
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    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Sentence
    I hope that the T-90A will continue to be purchased.

    Declare that the T-90A will be upgraded to the T-90SM.

    And also, there is an idea to create, say, an "unmanned" T-90 (without a crew), controlled remotely.

    Unlikely. Too many changes in the T-90AM compared to the T90A. And the tower and the engine and the OMS. And the gun.
  15. Cro-Magnon
    Cro-Magnon 23 March 2016 13: 27
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    And what is the point of the article, in the repost !? We at inosmi.ru the articles of this Dave are lurking with outright nonsense and jokes ... lugging this garbage on such a serious military site as VO is simply not serious! I didn’t minus it; a man tried to cheer him up with positive news!
  16. observer
    observer 23 March 2016 13: 32
    +2
    The promising Tank Killer should carry a 152 caliber gun.
    What other tank killer, what kind of non-patriotism, we have a completely understandable designation, such as a class of "tank destroyers".
  17. Cro-Magnon
    Cro-Magnon 23 March 2016 13: 46
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    As a T-14 Armata tank, it’s completely nothing ... but as a platform for many types of weapons .. IMHO completely unsuccessful! It would be worth deploying the lineup 180 degrees, this would give the best lineup for bmp, heavy bmp and armored personnel carriers, sau, bram and mr ... and even for tankers sitting in the stern armored capsule having in front of the MTO and the fighting compartment is the best guarantee of non-penetration from the PTO ! And the same move back / forward would solve the problem of controlling a combat vehicle on the march without electronic surveillance!
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 23 March 2016 18: 57
      +2
      Duc and so on the t-15 engine in front
  18. Kenneth
    Kenneth 23 March 2016 16: 50
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    If you look at the current modern tank, then IMHO the Jews with their Merkava 4 found an excellent version of the extremely protected cross between the tank and the infantry fighting vehicle, which by the way proved in battle that even when out of service - the crew and landing losses are minimal.
  19. rubidiy
    rubidiy 23 March 2016 17: 02
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    how much can you litter the resource with reposts of couch experts ?! am fool
  20. trantor
    trantor 23 March 2016 19: 53
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    Positive feedback from foreign media about Russian developments is often a cause for suspicion. Indeed, such publications may well be part of a specific plan for the defense industry of third countries. Talking about the high rates and, importantly, the dangers of the latest Russian weapons and equipment, the foreign press can help promote some of the developments in the domestic industry.

    The author rightly says that they are lobbying for their military-industrial complex by this. But after all, the option is not excluded that they can push us into the "wrong place" with their "enthusiasm". So, as one of my boss used to say: "I divide all your compliments by 10", but here you can even by 20, because they are not our friends.
  21. lynov
    lynov 23 March 2016 22: 27
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    Quote: Cro-Magnon
    As a T-14 Armata tank, it’s completely nothing ... but as a platform for many types of weapons .. IMHO completely unsuccessful! It would be worth deploying the lineup 180 degrees, this would give the best lineup for bmp, heavy bmp and armored personnel carriers, sau, bram and mr ... and even for tankers sitting in the stern armored capsule having in front of the MTO and the fighting compartment is the best guarantee of non-penetration from the PTO ! And the same move back / forward would solve the problem of controlling a combat vehicle on the march without electronic surveillance!

    There were developments
  22. klopik4
    klopik4 23 March 2016 22: 27
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    The Ombudsman refers to data from the Ministry of Labor that the number of Russians with incomes below the subsistence level over the past year has increased by 3 million people - up to 19 million, with 60% to 70% of people below the poverty line - families with children.
    For 2015, "the largest gap between the rich and the poor in Russia was noted in Moscow (39,3%), the Chechen Republic (40,1%) and the Republic of Dagestan (38,6%)." In Russia, as analysts note, one of the highest rates of social stratification is observed, only in China this level is higher.
    "The indicator of the ratio of the average incomes of 10% of the most and 10% of the least well-off strata of the population increased from 4,5 times in 1990 to 16,5 times in 2013, in 2015 this indicator slightly decreased. At the same time, since 2000, poverty has been decreasing, and Economic inequality is on the rise. If current trends continue, by 2017, income inequality between the top 10% and the bottom line could rise from 16,5% to 20%, "the report says.
    As for the "middle class", the real number of citizens belonging to it in Russia is estimated at 15% (with the norm of a developed state at 60-80%), the report specifies.


    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/society/20160323/1395039979.html#ixzz43kvCl6WB
  23. lynov
    lynov 23 March 2016 22: 28
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    And in the same topic
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  26. lynov
    lynov 23 March 2016 22: 54
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    Quote: obozrevatel
    The promising Tank Killer should carry a 152 caliber gun.
    What other tank killer, what kind of non-patriotism, we have a completely understandable designation, such as a class of "tank destroyers".

    And why 152, hammering HE HEs like self-propelled guns? 125 mm for 4,5 km. controlled projectile and so cope. Penetration by a sub-caliber does not depend so much on the mass of the projectile as on its length, but cumulative on its design. More caliber, more volume, more tank mass, less mobility. More powerful engine — more volume — more mass — less mobility. And so on to infinity.
  27. Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 March 2016 17: 05
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    And rightly so, the NATO people were getting excited, they probably ordered a new batch of diapers.
  28. Navy7981
    Navy7981 27 January 2017 22: 34
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    But Ukrainian "experts" say that there is no "Almaty" smile Then they beat her and say nothing special ... smile