Americans plan to keep producing F-16 after 2017 g

The company Lockheed Martin finances from its own funds subcontractors tied to the production of F-16 fighter jets in order to preserve the production line, the blog reports bmpd citing Air & Cosmos magazine.

Fighter Lockheed Martin F-16C (IQ) Block 52 Iraqi Air Force.

According to the magazine, the American concern is currently fulfilling a contract for the supply of X-NUMX F-36IQ fighters to the Iraqi military department and is awaiting the signing of a new contract with Pakistan.

“Anyway, the Iraqi order will be executed in 2017 and all aircraft will be handed over to the customer, and Lockheed Martin expects to keep the production line until the Pakistani contract is finalized. However, last week this issue became the object of heated discussions between the Senate, Congress and the US State Department, ”the article says.

These structures are negotiating the financing of a deal with Pakistan for the supply of eight F-16. We are talking $ 700 million. The Senate does not like this deal, and he is trying to upset her. Lawmakers point to the billions of dollars already transferred to Pakistan as military aid, the results of which turned out to be very dubious. According to the senators, Pakistan is still unlikely to use the planes handed to it to fight terrorist groups.

Earlier it was reported that the leadership of "Lockheed Martin" is also going to visit India to make the government an official proposal to organize the production of F-16 in Indian territory.

Comments

[VP]

Well, why not if there is still demand for it around the world, if it is still in demand somewhere.
The 35th still will not be very soon, and it is not clear in what form it will be, and not everyone will have to afford it and not everyone will be able to sell it.
A logical decision, in general.

[Now we are free]

F-16 machine (for a light fighter) is very good. Overview, thanks to the excellent cockpit light, is one of the lightest fighters for visibility in control, plus the most affordable price for it (among American fighters). In terms of receiving any air forces, it’s quite suitable for a country of the 3rd or 2+ world, as well as for those who just like to look stylish in the sky and admire the landscapes weaving below.
In terms of performance characteristics, the F-16 is already close to the limit with the Eurofighters and Rafals, as well as with the MiG-35 (which I hope will finally be put into mass production) at the price of the F-16 much loses to the Swede "Grippen" - A very good and affordable light fighter.

F-16 This is an era like F-14, like our MiG-29 and Su-27, but time is running out and we need to correspond to it in terms of performance characteristics and price offers, and in fact, the Americans are starting to lose ground by compensating for this by surrendering the fighter price to their loyal (yet) countries.

P.S. If I had the opportunity, I would gladly put the F-16 in the hangar in order to just fly it and admire the Exhibit, but I would not enter into a modern air battle with an equal or superior opponent on it.

P.P.S.
Although, the Turks have recently perfectly demonstrated that nothing is even very good for Rat F-16 backstabs ...

[Lt. Air Force stock]

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According to the performance characteristics of the same F-16

The latest modification of the F-16V in electronics and avionics is the most modern. F-16V is only inferior in terms of maneuverability to the MiG-35 ...

[Now we are free]

Quote: Lt. Air Force stock

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According to the performance characteristics of the same F-16

The latest modification of the F-16V in electronics and avionics is the most modern. F-16V is only inferior in terms of maneuverability to the MiG-35 ...

Greetings to the PLWA
Yes, V in the airplane index stands for Viper, the "viper." The new version of the aircraft will receive a radar with an active phased array, a new on-board computer and some improvements in the cockpit. According to the company, almost any F-16 fighter can be upgraded to the Viper version ... But I don’t think that the Americans will go along the path of mass modernization of the old man. For them, now the race with time and F-35 status in the series is in priority at stake for the honor of the country (if you can call it that) and the rabid grandmothers who were allied in the program of the 35th country.

[Maksus]

And what general performance characteristics are important if the launch range of an AA-rocket is 120km and C-300 is 400 km? Here maneuverability is not particularly important. Nobody will arrange a dog-fight, tea is not Vietnam.

[Diana Ilyina]

Quote: Maksus

And what general performance characteristics are important if the launch range of an AA-rocket is 120km and C-300 is 400 km? Here maneuverability is not particularly important. Nobody will arrange a dog-fight, tea is not Vietnam.

Correct me if I am mistaken, but the Americans thought about this before, and therefore the first "Phantoms" did not have machine-gun and cannon armament. The events in Vietnam have shown the fallacy of such judgments! I watched a movie about Vietnam and heard exactly this version.

[gladcu2]

Diana Ilyina

So when Vietnam was ...

Yayne specialist, it would be nice to listen to a specialist.
It seems to me that the gun is the weapon of last chance. With an effective range of fire in combat maneuverability in the region of 400 m.

But they say over-maneuverability is needed to avoid a rocket literally in the last meters. When, the rocket has no chance to tighten. Although rockets hit targets with a volume explosion, rather than a direct hit.

On the other hand, a person is no longer able to determine when it is necessary to do a missile defense because of his physical capabilities. Well, even if the radar sees a rocket, and avionics will automatically make a maneuver. That person can not withstand overloads.

So that ...

[Pirogov]

Quote: VP

The 35th still will not be very soon, and it is not clear in what form it will be, and not everyone will have to afford it and not everyone will be able to sell it.
A logical decision, in general.

Of course, a logical decision is how you can abandon the workhorse. Whoever said that and the F-16 is one of the best fighters in the world.

[gladcu2]

Pirogov

Either the best or not the best.

The expression "one of the best" is troll suckers.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

As F15 and F16 were the most reliable they still have, F22 does not shine anywhere, and F35 in general, what the hell, they themselves do not know what to do with it.

[Engineer]

The F-22 was never planned for export, because why should it shine?

[Urfin]

It would be profitable to export. Eagles after six years began to be made in Japan under license.

So he has a problem with the price and "no one except the US needs".

[dyksi]

The fighter is good, the generals there have long been convincing the authorities about the return of a pair of F-16s, F-15s (to create new cars in such a way that they are not a wunderwaf) and they don’t want to release A-10s, but the lobby of big business is there and we have a very strong one, and the capture of the entire military aviation market in the United States by one firm led to the creation of the archie, the hyper of the expensive and unforgettable F-35. We need to learn a lesson from this.

[sir_obs]

But what about the new f35 super-duper?
Or is it only for loshar-allies, as a means of pumping dough back into the machine?

[VP]

And why did you decide that they are going to sell the 35th to different Pakistan, the Philippines and other Turkey?

[igor67]

Quote: VP

And why did you decide that they are going to sell the 35th to different Pakistan, the Philippines and other Turkey?

Turkey decided to order four more F-35 fighters from Lockheed Martin Corporation in addition to the two previously ordered. This was announced in a statement by Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu on Wednesday.

In 2012, Turkey announced that it planned to acquire 100 aircraft with an initial supply of two aircraft in 2015.

“It is planned that within the framework of the project, Turkey will purchase 100 F-35 military aircraft. We previously ordered two fighters, but now we decided to order four more, ”Davutoglu said after a meeting of the Turkish Defense Industry Secretariat (SSM).

[mvg]

Turkey - a participant in the F-35 project, about 120 units were ordered. Then the order was reduced to 90 pcs. The Philippines can’t afford it, and Pakistan will most likely not be sold because of too close relations with China.

[Diana Ilyina]

Quote: mvg

Most likely, they will not sell to Pakistan because of too close relations with China.

I beg you, they will not sell, they will sell you, how nice they would pay only denyuzhku! They will sell even to Pakistan, even Cuba, even the devil with the devil, the only question is whether Pakistan needs this expensive junk, on which there’s nothing to fight, it’s still impossible to fly on it!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: sir_obs

But what about the new f35 super-duper?

During the war, the production of F-16 can be deployed faster and rivet them much more than the F-35.

[Observer2014]

Americans plan to keep producing F-16 after 2017 g
According to American experts: A good plane only gets better over the years! Just like wine.
And then F35 is still ripening.

[Dangerous]

Apparently, according to our experts, a good aircraft is also getting better over the years, which is why they produce the Mig-35 and the Su-27/30/35/34 family. Do not neglect excellent aircraft like the F-16

[Kupez4]

In addition to the F-16, the Americans have nothing serial.

[Zaurbek]

There is no escape from this, just like us from the Su-35S and MiG-35. The prices of 4 ++ and 5 generation aircraft differ significantly and the transitional moment between generations may be delayed due to the large% of novelty in the 5th generation. A large number of countries simply can not pull the 5th generation. And the Americans will not want to lose the market.

[Mountain shooter]

And what a good plane. Well-developed glider and engine in production. Relatively light. But, it seems, never cheap. Nothing personal just business.

[mvg]

From $ 25-35 million apiece, in the top versions (UAE for example) about 50 million. Compare with $ 110-120 million for Typhoon and Rafale. No worse. AFAR, combat load, less than an hour of flight, service is established in many countries .. Beautiful bird.

[gladcu2]

Mountain shooter.

American may be cheaper then subject to technological superiority.

The reason is that the dollar itself is very expensive and the nut bought in China or the United States certainly has a different price.

Therefore, the United States can only trade in exclusive.

[Ros 56]

And what's wrong, bummer with 22 and 35, or something I don't know. Here are the pontovy, they frightened, frightened the people all over the world, and as a result, "the king is not real." Yeah.

[Ros 56]

Ah minus signer, you have something to argue, mind that you are so miserable, hiding behind the minuses.

[Dangerous]

Let me object to you for it - the 22nd is not exported, therefore it was not lit up anywhere. The F-16 is a lightweight fighter like our MiG-29, so it needs to be compared with the F-35. But the F-35 is being brought to mind and no one knows how long it will take. After all, we also did not stop the production of aircraft based on the old MiG-29 and Su-27 in anticipation of the T-50. And stamped MiG-35 and SU-30/35/34

[Ros 56]

A small amendment, the Su-35 is practically not inferior to the F-22, and judging by the publications in the press and the F-35mu, the MiG-35 is generally the newest machine, only it passes the tests.
Taking into account modern trends in aviation, as a rule, the one who has the better radar will win, he saw before, then he shot down. But in close combat, God himself commanded us to be the first.
By the way, the Indians on the 30MKI made God-striped turtles, in spite of all the sticks in the wheels that they shoved them.

[Kronos07]

And so, bummer

[aszzz888]

Maybe not in the subject. They showed it on TV: the Ukrokakly handed over to the Croats the MiG-21 they were repairing. But they stopped flying and began to. It turned out that the ukrokakly changed the documentation, did not make repairs, and the planes were returned to the Croats OLDER in age! And then ukrokaklia "on top!"

[Mercenary]

India is more embarrassed on its territory already there is a Su-30 production, + development (joint) of a fifth-generation fighter what side are the Yankees going to there? Obviously someone was bribed. Allies are their mother’s legs.

[igorek4515]

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F-16 machine (for a light fighter) is very good.

F-16 machine is not about that would be very good but very good. By the combination of LTX and combat qualities tested by time and war.

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In terms of getting what kind of air force, it’s quite suitable for a country of the 3rd or 2+ world as well as for those who just like to look stylish in the sky and admire the landscapes weaving below

This is how the American Air Force "lowered" it now ..? They have the F-16e as the basis of the Air Force's fighter fleet.

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P.S. If I had the opportunity, I would gladly put the F-16 in the hangar in order to just fly it and admire the Exhibit, but I would not enter into a modern air battle with an equal or superior opponent on it.

It's you for nothing .. F-16, especially in the latest versions, and even with new V-V missiles, will be a tough nut for any air enemy .. Without any quotes ..

[0255]

Quote: igorek4515

F-16 machine is not about that would be very good but very good. By the combination of LTX and combat qualities tested by time and war.

In Iraq and Yugoslavia, where the US and NATO had a numerical superiority in aviation? During the "Desert Storm" F-16 did not shoot down a single plane at all. Not a single ancient MiG-21 or -23, Karl! And for ground targets, the F-111 and F-15E worked more efficiently.

[dchegrinec]

Of course, because what else are they to release? 18th or something! Or 22 and 35? Whoever buys them then. And this "horse" can still be handed out to your servant countries to support American industry.

[Humpty]

30 years ago so much criticism poured on f16 in the foreign press, just like now on f35.

[igorek4515]

Quote: dchegrinec

Of course, because what else do they release then? 18th or something!

By the way, the F / A-18 is also a very good car. It could be a competitor F-16mu, especially in the latest versions of E and F .. True, this machine is for the Navy ie for deck aviation. Therefore, she and the tasks are slightly different .. Up to the F-35, the Americans made very good aircraft ..

[0255]

F / A-18 is based on the Northrop YF-17 fighter, which lost the F-16 contest. They write that the YF-17 was better.

[Nix1986]

It has been said more than once - the current level of technology will not allow the release of something radical new in comparison with the current 4 generation aircraft. Yes, avionics will be a little better, let there be a bezforsazhny supersound. But there will be nothing fundamentally new. And how much will such an unprincipled gain cost? just look at how much F22 cost compared to F15. It is clear that the years of Production are different, but nevertheless, the qualitative superiority of F22 over F15 is not so much as the difference in price. Imagine this situation - the current generation of the BMW 5 Series starts at 35000 euros. Then the manufacturer tells you a new generation of BMW 5 Series - the autopilot is not there, and it is not an electric car with 800 km of track reserves, it just added understanding of gestures and it can read the markings and signs and it will cost from 85000 euros. What awaits such a car - FAILURE !!!

[Kronos07]

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