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Hypersonic weapons of Russia and the United States: who is ahead?

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17 March 2016, it became known that Russia is beginning to test hypersonic anti-ship cruise missiles (ZCRON).

Presumably, the rocket will be able to reach speeds in 5-6 times the speed of sound (5-6М - when flying at a low altitude it is about 6-7 thousand km / h). The product is planned to be installed on the promising multipurpose nuclear submarines 5 of the Husky generation, as well as to replace the P-700 Granit heavy anti-ship missiles on the Orlan 1144 cruisers. The maximum range of the latest CRP is unknown - presumably, it will be at least 400 km.

This news shows that Russia is closely approaching the creation of real hypersonic weapons. But the United States and China also "do not sit idle." Unfortunately, it is not yet possible to find out a lot of details about the real state of the projects and the tactical and technical characteristics of these products. But we still try to put together the facts and assumptions and determine the success of the country in the "hypersound". This is very important, since the creation of real hypersonic samples weapons will make a revolution in the world of armaments and can seriously affect the balance of forces in the world.

Perspective hypersonic armament of Russia

About hypersonic anti-ship missile 3М22 "Zircon", which is developed by the corporation "Tactical Missile Weapons", we started talking above. Its maximum speed will be higher than that of П-700 in 2 − 2,5 times (“Granites” develop speed in 2,5М). Such a high speed makes intercepting a missile extremely difficult, and, moreover, greatly reduces the decision-making time of the enemy - the flight of the Zircon to 400km should last less than 4 minutes. It is impossible to predict how long the tests of the new RCC will last - too little information is available, and the complexity of the task is very high. It is hardly worth expecting the creation of a real serial rocket earlier than by the 2020 year, while there is a high probability that this will happen much later (and the main carrier of the missiles, the submarines of the new generation of the Huskies, are unlikely to be put into service before the end of 2020 s) The second interesting Russian project is the so-called 4202 product. Its development has been carried out by the NPO Mashinostroeniya with the 2009 year. We are talking about creating a hypersonic, maneuvering warhead for heavy intercontinental ballistic missiles (and since 2016 begins testing the heavy Sarmat PC-28 liquid missile, it is clear that new combat units were intended for it). A minimum of 6 tests of a new combat unit was allegedly carried out, all with the help of the UR-100N UTTH ICBM (an obsolete heavy liquid rocket with which nuclear warheads have already been removed - is being used for testing and for launching satellites into orbit). Western media wrote about the latest test, including Jane's reputable agency. From the data given in wall newspaper "NPO Mashinostroeniya"It is known that the warhead will be covered with a radio absorbing coating. The creation of such a warhead will make the existing missile defense systems virtually unarmed, as the combat unit flies at great speed, not along a ballistic trajectory, and maneuvers it. In addition, due to the fact that the warhead is controllable, it is possible to achieve a very high accuracy of destruction, compared with the classic warheads, and this allows you to completely use weapons in non-nuclear equipment, or with a low-power nuclear weapon.

And finally, of interest is the possibility of creating a strategic cruise missile - air or sea-based. It is known that the development of the X-90 GEL project (a hypersonic experimental aircraft) began in the USSR, but with the collapse of the country, work stopped and prototypes were demonstrated at the MAKS air show in Zhukovsky. As planned by the developers, the rocket speed should have reached 4 − 5M, and the maximum launch range - 3000 km. At the moment, there is no substantive information about the development of such a rocket, however rumors and fragmentary information about this is present.

US hypersonic projects


The United States is also actively developing hypersonic technology, not hesitating to once again show or tell about past trials, although the Americans, of course, do not disclose technical details.

Of the recent projects, the prototype of the X-51 WaveRider hypersonic cruise missile is worth noting. Product testing began in the 2010 year. Of the X-NUMX-x launches carried out from the B-52H strategic bomber, one was the most successful (the last 4 in May 1 of the year). The rocket developed a maximum speed in 2013M (5.1 km / h) at an altitude of about 6100 km, while the flight lasted about 18 minutes, the distance 6 km was covered. In the public domain was published and video from these tests. The predecessor of X-51, X-43A, was also interesting. This cruise missile set a speed record by developing the 9,65M, but the rocket engine worked for only 10 − 11 seconds.

Thus, the United States has a serious groundwork for creating a real combat cruise missile. As far as Americans are close to this is unclear - the information is classified.

Another project being developed as part of the Global Lightning Strike Initiative (Prompt Global Strike) is the Advanced Hypersonic Weapon (AHW, “Advanced Hypersonic Weapon”). This promising weapon of a disarming non-nuclear strike is a hypersonic warhead, which is output by means of the STARS IV rocket carrier (a modification of the retired UGM-27 Polaris medium-range submarines) to the upper atmosphere, and then at hypersonic speed it “plans” to the target. American gunsmiths expect in this way to hit targets at distances up to 6000 km. According to the US military, the first test of the AHW in 2011 was successful - the combat unit flew 3700 km in about 30 minutes and hit the target. The second test, which took place in 2014, turned out to be a failure - the combat unit self-destructed in the 4 second flight.

AHW’s competitor is Hypersonic Technology Vehicle 2 (HTV-2). The essence of the project is the same. At the first tests, which were carried out in 2010 year, the following requirements were imposed on the combat unit: fly 7,700 km, developing a speed around 20M. The HTV-2 was launched into the upper atmosphere with the help of the Minotaur IV launch vehicle (a modification of the decommissioned ICBM LGM-118 Peacekeeper). The flight was supposed to last 30 minutes, but in the 9 minute, communication with the warhead was lost. Approximately in the same scenario, the second tests in 2011 developed, the connection was also lost approximately in the 9 minute.

And last - 15 March 2016, the American gun giant Lockheed Martin, said that work is underway to create a hypersonic drone SR-72. The flight speed of the aircraft must be at least 6M. According to the company, the aircraft can be created by the middle of 2020-x, and the cost of one machine will be less than $ 1 billion. The dimensions of the drone will be similar to the fighter 5-th generation F-22, thus, we can assume that the machine can perform reconnaissance and, possibly, shock tasks. By the way, the project for the creation of the HTV-3X hypersonic aircraft as part of the Falcon program (the above described HTV-2 is also included) was frozen in the 2008 year due to lack of funds, but now the project is apparently coming to life.

Other countries testing hypersonic weapons

According to US sources (later briefly confirmed by Beijing), China is also working to create a hypersonic warhead like the 4202 or HTV-2 product. The product, called the Americans Wu-14, has already been tested 6 times, and, apparently, 5 from the tests were successful, or partially successful. There is no more accurate and detailed information about the project, as well as about the technical characteristics of the Chinese hypersonic airframe.

There is success with another Asian giant, India. The Shaurya tactical “surface-to-surface” missile was created there, accelerating to speeds around 7M (approximately, like the Russian tactical missile Iskander-M). However, it’s probably not very correct to include tactical ballistic missiles in this list. On the other hand, India is developing the Brahmos-2 RPC jointly with Russia, which may be one of the modifications of the above-mentioned Zircon.

France is also developing a hypersonic weapon - the development of the ASN4G air-to-surface cruise missile has begun. The French want to disperse this carrier of nuclear weapons up to speeds around 8M, but no time limit has been announced on when the first prototype will be ready.

conclusions

1. Hypersonic weapons can seriously affect the established strategic balance in the world. It shortens the response time for the enemy to the limit, and high-precision, maneuvering hypersonic warheads of ballistic missiles can pass any missile defense system. High accuracy and, consequently, the possibility of abandoning nuclear warheads increases the "temptation" to use such weapons in order to disarm the enemy.

2. At the current technological level, the creation of real samples of hypersonic weapons ceases to be fiction. This is especially true of hypersonic combat units-gliders for ICBMs. Cruise missiles with flight speeds 5 − 6 can also soon become a reality.

3. Projects of hypersonic aircraft look the most doubtful so far - such projects are too expensive at this stage. So "ride" from Moscow to New York in an hour, apparently, not soon.

4. Neither side has a decisive advantage in a hypersonic race. The United States is most openly talking about their projects (perhaps not everyone?), Russia, and, to a greater extent, China, are trying not to fully disclose their cards. The rest while playing the role of catching up.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 March 2016 04: 29
    +1
    The Zircon missiles, upon their final commissioning, and I have no doubt they will be put into operation, will tear the merikatos missile defense system like Tuzik a heating pad. And their next multi-trillion-dollar expenses - down the drain! fellow
    1. SU69
      SU69 26 March 2016 12: 07
      +3
      Quote: aszzz888
      And their next multi-billion-dollar costs - down the drain!

      Why? Money printed and spent.
      Will be mastered under new projects.
      1. Throw
        Throw 27 March 2016 06: 17
        +6
        An article in the style of "All xs, but I want to write techno fried something"
        Link to the wall newspaper! six year old !! ago, killed the article completely.
        As well as her "conclusions".
    2. Tuzik
      Tuzik 27 March 2016 08: 50
      0
      heating pad again.
    3. Mikhail Harichev
      Mikhail Harichev 27 March 2016 19: 36
      +3
      The United States speaks most openly about its projects (perhaps not all?), Russia, and, to a greater extent, China, are trying not to fully disclose their maps.
      If the Americans say they will create a hypersonic missile, then they will create it. If our people say that they will create a hypersonic missile, then they have already created it.
      A joke ... Probably ... request what
    4. Aleks Berg
      Aleks Berg April 29 2016 14: 07
      0
      Why did Author Leonid Nersisyan undertake to write an article on this topic? He clearly does not know the existing expert material, even from open publications. Why did not the author write that the Russian product of project 4202 under the project name Yu-71 glider has already passed several successful tests and showed a speed of 11300 km / h, the last tests were in February 2015, and the glider flight takes place in a mode of constant unpredictable maneuvering, as in height and horizon. And the decision was made by 2022 to start installing the first 24 devices near Dombarovsk, on the promising Sarmat missiles, which should by that time begin to enter service, and begin to replace Satan.
      American hypersonic products X-51, X-51A at the moment cannot take the bar at 6000 km / h - accidents and problems interfere. There was not a single full test. In the future, the American apparatus should fly only in a straight line, and they are not talking about any maneuvering.
      Also, the author did not report that the Chinese in February of the same 2015 carried out successful tests of their hypersonic products and it was successful, but details were not reported.
      Considering the above, I believe that the author’s article is more biased than relevant. You should not write if you do not know the material. Write in other sections, for example, about economics.
  2. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 26 March 2016 05: 53
    +7
    Hypersound is very serious, the response time of air defense stations, most of which will remain out of work, is sharply reduced. Talking about who is ahead, it makes no sense, development is always classified, tests are not an indicator of leadership, and in open sources the degree of reliability is low.
  3. Signaller
    Signaller 26 March 2016 06: 00
    +1
    You know, in front is the one who itches. Well, like you need to ZARES.
    . We somehow do not really, although it is necessary. They also need, they want to use conventional weapons to press our nuclear component to the nail. And we give them a combination of three fingers. That scratches them.
  4. region58
    region58 26 March 2016 06: 26
    +15
    The United States speaks most openly about its projects (perhaps not all?), Russia, and, to a greater extent, China, are trying not to fully disclose their maps.

    If the Americans say they will create a hypersonic missile, then they will create it. If our people say that they will create a hypersonic missile, then they have already created it.
    A joke ... Probably ...
    1. B-15
      B-15 26 March 2016 22: 30
      +2
      Quote: region58
      If the Americans say they will create a hypersonic missile, then they will create it. If our people say that they will create a hypersonic missile, then they have already created it.

      In this case, a joke. Alas.
      Amers have one problem. Pretty capital. We have others. Each has advanced in opposite parts of the system. Will wait. And keep your fists. The main thing is that we have the necessary brains.
  5. crasever
    crasever 26 March 2016 06: 43
    +7
    A deep bow to our scientists and designers who have preserved the Soviet backlog of hypersound in the u ... 90s!
  6. Professor
    Professor 26 March 2016 06: 57
    +4
    5. A guidance system for hypersonic missiles has not yet been created.
    6. The problem with the overheating of the rocket at hypersonic speed has not been solved.
    1. Dimon19661
      Dimon19661 26 March 2016 08: 46
      +4
      I do not think that ZIRCON does not have a guidance system.
    2. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 26 March 2016 09: 30
      +12
      Quote: Professor
      5. A guidance system for hypersonic missiles has not yet been created.
      6. The problem with the overheating of the rocket at hypersonic speed has not been solved.

      Iskander-M missiles fly at a speed of 2100 meters per second, which is 7560 kilometers per hour, as you can see with the guidance system and there are no problems with overheating (the Iskander-M missile can maneuver at the end of the flight)
      1. Professor
        Professor 26 March 2016 09: 33
        +4
        Quote: Lt. air force reserve
        Iskander-M missiles fly at a speed of 2100 meters per second, which is 7560 kilometers per hour, as you can see with the guidance system and there are no problems with overheating (the Iskander-M missile can maneuver at the end of the flight)

        An ICBM warhead also enters the atmosphere with hypersonic speed, but there are difficulties with controlling the CD in hypersound. Plasma and all that ...
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 26 March 2016 10: 05
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          An ICBM warhead also enters the atmosphere with hypersonic speed, but there are difficulties with controlling the CD in hypersound. Plasma and all that ...

          There were problems with burning, at such speeds of a free stream, already solved?
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 26 March 2016 09: 54
      +8
      In the early 70s in the USSR they created an anti-aircraft missile 5Ya27, which accelerated to a speed of 15,5 Mach, in the 80s on its basis they created a missile defense system 53T6 Gazelle with similar speed characteristics, all problems with overheating and control have long been resolved, the only brake on the current hypersonic weapon this is a binding to scramjet missiles.
      1. Professor
        Professor 26 March 2016 10: 30
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        all problems with overheating and control have long been resolved

        More?
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 26 March 2016 18: 29
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          More?

          And most interesting how, however, the plasma, but all of our experts say it is decided.
          So it's decided!
          By the way, there has been a lot of talk about hypersound lately.
          1. Professor
            Professor 26 March 2016 18: 49
            +2
            Quote: Cynic
            And most interesting how, however, the plasma, but all of our experts say it is decided.
            So it's decided!

            "In God we trust; all others must bring data"
            W. Edwards Deming
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 26 March 2016 20: 22
              0
              And then, in life
              1 - This cannot be, because it can never be! 2 - There is something in it! 3 - Well, who does not know this ?!
            2. xtur
              xtur 26 March 2016 23: 46
              +6
              > "In God we trust; all others must bring data"
              > W. Edwards deming

              you demand reinforcement with rumors about solving the key problem of developing the latest generation of weapons. for the disclosure of data that you find convincing, the alleged owner of such information will have to answer to the fullest extent of the law

              Even the articulation of the principle on the basis of which the problem is solved may be unacceptable at this stage

              you probably understand all this. So why make unrealistic demands?
              1. Cynic
                Cynic 27 March 2016 10: 42
                0
                Quote: xtur
                you demand rumors

                Not rumors, but statements by our Russian experts.
                Quote: xtur
                Even voicing the principle

                In theory, even the scoring of the most fact., However, we have it.
                And now the most interesting part is how true is this ?!
                So let them guess, our experts say the truth or drive misinformation ...
                Yes, about the question of the respected professor, he recalls those times_
                After the collapse of the USSR, Russians often behaved no smarter than the Papuans who were visited by missionaries and merchants from Europe. The beads changed shape, but
                have not changed their essence. And for them, in exchange, they almost forcibly shoved the most secret secrets of a recently powerful country.
                laughing
                For life
        2. Red_Hamer
          Red_Hamer 27 March 2016 03: 48
          0
          Sorry but no. Not yet.
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 March 2016 15: 04
          0
          One of the ways to control "astracorrection" as on ICBM warheads is to enter the direction of flight and the place of "landing" into the onboard computer - the flight trajectory is aeroballistic.
      2. Operator
        Operator 26 March 2016 11: 48
        +8
        The Gazelle had radio command guidance in connection with its flight in a plasma cloud.
        Freon was flowing through the end of the Gazelle, piercing the radio channel in the plasma.
        1. Throw
          Throw 27 March 2016 06: 25
          +2
          Is there a proof of the link about the channel in the "end" of the gazelle?
          1. Vitwin
            Vitwin 27 March 2016 06: 31
            +3
            Quote: Lance
            Is there a proof of the link about the channel in the "end" of the gazelle?

            Patriot - a patriot, a word must believe! fellow
          2. Operator
            Operator 27 March 2016 13: 42
            0
            There is a photo - freon nozzles at the end of the "Gazelle" around the circumference of the solid propellant rocket nozzle
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 27 March 2016 10: 45
          +2
          What about the "greenhouse effect"?
          This is a violation of the Kyoto Protocol!
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    5. siberalt
      siberalt 26 March 2016 11: 17
      0
      I still can't figure out how to make a high-precision rocket at this speed? Or has the inertia been canceled? Another thing is the "core" to shmalnu.
      1. realyty
        realyty 26 March 2016 20: 16
        +4
        At this speed, inertia is almost irrelevant, the surrounding atmosphere becomes hundreds of times denser.
    6. Xsanchez
      Xsanchez 27 March 2016 23: 53
      0
      The problem of warhead overheating is solvable, and quite successfully. It began to be solved back in the late 60s, early 70s, when the MiG-25 was developed. I think that there should be no problems with guidance either: the trajectory to the destination is initially programmed, tested on Buran "The problem is in the stability of the direct-flow taxiway. But here too there is a good groundwork (USSR developments), so we move faster than our competitors, again India helps with money for participating in the development.
    7. Simple
      Simple 28 March 2016 00: 20
      +3
      5. Inertial (at least), has been known for a hundred years at lunch (well, a little less).
      Next, I propose: radar, eses.
      Well, just "no need" about plasma and others like it.
      6. For a long time, if you are not going to wind circles for hours.
      Theoretical limit 10m at altitudes up to 20 km. Then yes: approx. 6000k, on the ends.
      But!
      - not 10m, but less
      not 20 km, but higher
      - and when you approach the target and enter the atmosphere ps: it will slow down (like pershing2 BG, like minuteman3 BGI, etc.), and p.5 (your) registers with a bang
      And what about "overheating has not been resolved": the fuel components remove heat from the heating parts and further in the circuit to the combustion chamber. Both the good and the cooling.
      Well, or tep, like on a shuttle / storm, or ablation, etc.
      There is an atmosphere, there is a speed of the oncoming flow + insignificant time of movement in the environment: to cool is not a problem.
      This is not a fragile Sr.-71, nor is it a reusable shuttle
      The problem is different:
      7. The "short" tract of the combustion chamber and the supersonic flow in it - just to burn fuel DOESN'T MAKE UP.
  7. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 March 2016 07: 41
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    5. A guidance system for hypersonic missiles has not yet been created.
    6. The problem with the overheating of the rocket at hypersonic speed has not been solved.

    If you write for the Americans, this is good, if for our designers it is also good. But if there is talk of testing, then there is a decision to carry out and work on the bugs. The main thing - there is a goal, achievements, thinking heads, then the goal is achievable.
  8. surrozh
    surrozh 26 March 2016 09: 10
    -1
    Well, can you say goodbye to AB?
    1. srelock
      srelock 26 March 2016 10: 10
      0
      Quote: surozh
      Well, can you say goodbye to AB?

      In fact, they have long said goodbye to them wink
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 26 March 2016 10: 15
        +3
        Quote: srelock
        In fact, they have long said goodbye to them

        Not really. The radius of action of an air wing is 1000 km, and the radius of action of the most long-range anti-ship missiles is up to 600 km. Zircon can change this situation, since the range of these missiles is commensurate with the radius of action of the air wing of AUG.
        1. srelock
          srelock 26 March 2016 10: 31
          +2
          With 4 Harpoons and 3 PTBs, the combat radius of the F-18E will be about 500 km without refueling, provided that it is flying "in a straight line" and without taking into account the waiting time for the group to rise. The control center used in this case is similar to the CD. Now the aircraft carriers are "afloat" only thanks to the international restrictions on the missile range of 300 km.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 26 March 2016 14: 00
            +3
            Quote: srelock
            With 4 Harpoons and 3 PTBs, the combat radius of the F-18E will be about 500 km without refueling, provided that it is flying "in a straight line" and without taking into account the waiting time for the group to rise.

            The F-35 has a range of 1000-1200 km. At the same time, the performance characteristics of Zircon are different. But if you logically compare the characteristics of Granite, Volcano, Onyx, then I believe that Zircon can well hit 1000 km.
            1. srelock
              srelock 26 March 2016 19: 57
              0
              Quote: NEXUS
              The F-35 has a range of 1000-1200 km. At the same time, the performance characteristics of Zircon are different. But if you logically compare the characteristics of Granite, Volcano, Onyx, then I believe that Zircon can well hit 1000 km.
              I disagree with you about the radius of the F-35. With a load, it is no more than an F-18E, although of course it can be crammed into the compartments of the "nanoCR" with a warhead of 20kg.
              For a range of 1000 km. The Yankees are sawing another "wunderwaffe":

              In fact, the first stage is the KR stage with a return to the deck and a reconnaissance function.
              As for the Zircon missiles, there will probably be the same 500 km.
        2. Cartalon
          Cartalon 26 March 2016 11: 26
          +1
          And what will the Zircon with 400 km range change the situation?
          1. Dimon19661
            Dimon19661 26 March 2016 13: 18
            0
            Most modern air defense stations simply will not be able to accompany such a high-speed target, plus the approach time is sharply reduced, which will not make it possible to open fire.
        3. Denimax
          Denimax 26 March 2016 17: 02
          0
          Too leaky will be the defense of an air wing of 1000 km.
          RCC can appear in a hundred kilometers.
      2. ametist415
        ametist415 26 March 2016 11: 18
        +1
        Quote: srelock
        Quote: surozh
        Well, can you say goodbye to AB?

        In fact, they have long said goodbye to them wink


        Coments in the style of the Hero of Glory from Ukraine.
        Imagine if you drown the AB nuclear power of the United States, what will happen, a nuclear war, and all the fuck ... c?
  9. NEXUS
    NEXUS 26 March 2016 10: 05
    +4
    It is believed that the complexes with anti-ship missiles Zircon will be installed on Nakhimov, and then on Petka. And if so, then serial anti-ship missiles will be ready by the year 18, as the modernization of Nakhimov will end in 18.
  10. Vega
    Vega 26 March 2016 10: 36
    +2
    All information is collected from non-official sources, such as the media, word of mouth and so on. I think that the article is interesting, but very crude.
  11. Dr dron
    Dr dron 26 March 2016 10: 37
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Vadim237
    all problems with overheating and control have long been resolved

    More?

    Yes you can. A man in an earflap with a screwdriver bangs on a transistor, gulps a glass and the bears with balalaikas carry a rocket into the distance with hypersound.
  12. surrozh
    surrozh 26 March 2016 11: 31
    0
    Can't you ask? And if the question is stupid, why quote and answer it, when everything is clear to everyone.
  13. magician
    magician 26 March 2016 15: 46
    0
    Once upon a time I saw this very rocket on the calendar MKB "Raduga", I thought a dream, but it turned out to be a reality. fellow
  14. poma
    poma 26 March 2016 18: 20
    0
    There is less and less space for people in wars. Soon, technological effectiveness will trample on a simple person. One hope is that the electricity will break and the batteries will run out.
  15. Lex.
    Lex. 26 March 2016 21: 29
    +1
    Most likely, Russian designers managed to solve the problem on hypersonic flight once information leaked to the press, maybe soon they will be adopted, they may have already taken everything secretly
  16. Operator
    Operator 26 March 2016 23: 55
    -1
    The alleged view of the sea-based ballistic missile "Zircon" (in the picture on the left) with a speed at the end of the OUT of 3 km / s and a flight range of 1000 km in the dimensions of the cruise missile P-800 "Onyx" (in the picture on the right) bully
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 March 2016 00: 03
      0
      Something like this missile is very much like the Pershing 2 missile.
  17. Photon
    Photon 27 March 2016 00: 39
    +1
    Quote: srelock
    ballistic

    If I didn’t confuse anything, but it seems that I do not confuse. The range limitation for sea-based missiles does not apply. There are restrictions on the export of such missiles.
    And the real range of our anti-ship missiles is limited by the difficulty of over-target designation. Here AUG have such target designation.
    1. Xsanchez
      Xsanchez 28 March 2016 00: 12
      0
      It is precisely because of restrictions on the sale of missiles with a range of 300 km (ground-based) that India is developing with Bramos-2 in order to do it under license.
  18. kamski
    kamski 27 March 2016 03: 55
    0
    New materials, latest electronics. The most powerful industry. All this is in the USA. I do not think that Russia is ahead in this matter.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 27 March 2016 04: 38
      -1
      Quote: kamski
      New materials, latest electronics. The most powerful industry. All this is in the USA. I do not think that Russia is ahead in this matter.

      So it was thought at "Donald Cook" when the Su-24 turned off the radar screens and simulated several attacks ... laughing

      There is no need to think, let the engineers think. Here you need to compare the actual results and the demonstrated capabilities.
      The opinion of specialists is dearer to me than people who equate the "Petka" in trousers with the heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Peter the Great" ...
      As for the range and accuracy, believe me, it will be quite unexpected, like the characteristics of the "Caliber" at one time ... soldier
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 March 2016 10: 15
        0
        Donald Cook deployed the Bastion missile system, and with Su 24 it’s a duck of journalists.
      2. NEXUS
        NEXUS 27 March 2016 10: 56
        +1
        Quote: yuriy55
        So it was thought at "Donald Cook" when the Su-24 turned off the radar screens and simulated several attacks ...

        This is written by people who do not understand how the Khibiny system works. The Khibiny creates phantoms of the aircraft in order to confuse and confuse the guidance system of a missile launched into the aircraft. And there is no suppression of Cook's electronics in relation to this system. speech.
        The destroyer was led by at least a dozen coastal complexes, so all the electronics on Cook in a direct word roared. And one of the coastal electronic warfare systems (presumably Monolith) "put out" Cook's radars.
  19. demiurg
    demiurg 27 March 2016 13: 55
    0
    Interestingly, what will a hypersonic aircraft fight? He couldn’t even open the bomb bay. We are not talking about external suspension. Or is it a laser and torsion fields?
  20. gregor6549
    gregor6549 27 March 2016 14: 02
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    Guypersonic missiles, like many before them, are classified as the next "wunderwaffe" capable of breaking through any air defense / missile defense system and tearing it apart. But at the same time, it is somehow overlooked that when a rocket or an aircraft is flying at hypersonic speed, their thermal signature sharply increases due to the heating of the body. And with radar visibility at such a speed, problems can arise. In addition, hypersonic and maneuverability do not get along well in one bottle, which means that having detected a hypersonic target, it may be easier to track it than to track a target flying at a transonic speed. (Note that tracking air targets is currently a more difficult task than detecting them). Well, from being accompanied by a loud "boom" is just a stone's throw away.
    Moreover, in hypersound flying at low altitudes with enveloping the terrain is hardly possible.
    So the creation of hypersonic flying machines (if this happens, which is also not a fact) will only mean the emergence of a new class of targets for air defense / missile defense, and not the worst ones. Yes, it is possible that some air defense / missile defense elements will have to be modified for this class of goals, but no super duper difficulties are expected in this revision.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 March 2016 14: 55
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      For hypersonic missiles, the best is aeroballistic flight trajectory, less heating and the ability to maneuver, although now they have created materials that do not conduct heat at all when heated to several thousand degrees, as well as with the ability to absorb radio waves of certain ranges as well as laser radiation, after 10 - 15 years such missiles will be a reality and new air defense systems will have to be created, since in order to hit a missile flying at a speed of Mach 20, an anti-aircraft missile will have to be done twice as fast - this will no longer be hypersonic, but a "return speed" of over 28 Machs, and also create new radars space sensing, neither the Buk M3 nor the S 300PMU nor the S 400 will be able to hit such targets, even the S 500 will have problems with such targets, so rockets with "fast hypersound" and "return speed" will become a serious threat
      1. gregor6549
        gregor6549 27 March 2016 15: 30
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        All the arguments that you have brought so far from the field of assumptions, as well as the hypersonic missiles themselves. In the meantime, the reality is that hypersonic missiles that would suit the Customer and provide everything that you write about are not and it is not known when it will appear.
        Again, it is not a fact that to intercept a hypersonic missile, a dual-speed missile will be needed, because interception does not have to be carried out at linear rates. Therefore, let's wait for the appearance of hypersonic missiles (if we wait) and see what they will be made of and what. Then it will become more clear which means of combating such missiles will prove effective and which will not.
        On the whole, the history of armed struggle shows that the development of some new type of weapon is immediately accompanied by an assessment of the REAL threat that this weapon poses and if the threat is really real and deserves attention, then the development of means to counter this weapon begins. The same story has repeatedly shown that any technological superiority achieved by one of the parties is mostly short-lived and very soon offset by symmetrical or asymmetric measures taken by the other side.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 March 2016 17: 09
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          Hypersonic missiles have long been in service, the same missiles for the Iskander 7 5 Mach OTRK, Mach 15 aeroballistic missile X 6 - Mach XNUMX, I repeat - the only brake at the moment for hypersonic missiles is to attach the scramjet to them.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 27 March 2016 18: 16
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            Mmm, more accurately with the information, otherwise the Iskanders are already for the West ... Where can they get diapers, if it comes to everyone that it really is OTRK.
        2. Xsanchez
          Xsanchez 28 March 2016 00: 28
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          Most interceptions (even if the trajectory is ballistic, that is, stupidly from top to bottom), all the same in catch-up courses, are very rare oncoming ones; therefore, the interceptor speed is necessary 1,5 times higher, and this is the minimum at which interception is possible, and interception kinetic is absolutely excluded. Therefore, the complexity of missile defense increases in degree 3, with an increase in the speed of the breakthrough body to the speed of hypersound.
  21. Mentat
    Mentat 27 March 2016 15: 55
    +1
    Quote: gregor6549
    So let's wait for the appearance of hypersonic rockets

    Actually then it will be too late. Promising developments are always ahead of the curve.
  22. Mikhail Harichev
    Mikhail Harichev 27 March 2016 19: 35
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    The United States speaks most openly about its projects (perhaps not all?), Russia, and, to a greater extent, China, are trying not to fully disclose their maps.
    If the Americans say they will create a hypersonic missile, then they will create it. If our people say that they will create a hypersonic missile, then they have already created it.
    A joke ... Probably ... request
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 28 March 2016 10: 23
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      Quote: Mikhail Kharichev
      If ...

      Soon, most likely, it will be so with us. The model for the appearance of NEW systems is changing.
      hi
  23. Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy 30 March 2016 13: 55
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    Who is ahead? Judging by the main picture, apparently not us!
  24. chatlanin60
    chatlanin60 April 18 2016 15: 26
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    Gorbachev in 1989-90 handed over a huge number of secret developments of the Soviet Soza, including prototypes of hypersonic missiles. All this betrayal took place under the slogan, "Let's do it together." The Americans looked at everything and naturally refused to work together. But for his lectures in the United States, this Judas received about $ 100 million. Burn this creature in hell, preferably during life.