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Tricky comments. In Latvia, they decided to exchange Soviet awl for European soap

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Oh, these Latvians ... They cannot without attracting attention to themselves. But once attracted - get it. And get it.


Will get invincible and legendary Latvian arrows new weapon. Which, being, naturally, European, will help to resist the Russian legions, trampling near the borders of proud Latvia and waiting for the command to seize the country.



About exchange sewed on soap - this is not quite so. Of course, not soap. Plastic. But a great European plastic. The fact is that since 1993, Latvian military leaders have systematically disposed of the Kalashnikov assault rifle. In principle, it is logical that Latvia is NATO. It is necessary to comply. Well, at least a little ...

It turned out like. But a little background.

Back in 1998, the Minister of Defense of Latvia, Kristovskis, vowed to permanently get rid of weapons produced in the aggressor country. And he developed a very vigorous activity to find suitable models.

Kristovskis considered the Swedish AK-4 rifle a suitable model. In general, this is the German G3, but slightly doped by the Swedish gunsmiths. If you spit on antiquity (adopted in 1959 year and removed from it in 1979), then the weapon is, in principle, nothing. Will pull.

But the Swedes, being guys through pragmatic, despite the fact that by that time they decided to move to a more modern AK-5 rifle (sawn through FN FNC), they refused to donate their old rifles. For the money - please, but for free - it goes there ... over the ocean.

Overseas, Kristovskis’s pleas were heard. And they decided to help equip the Latvian army with modern weapons capable of giving a real rebuff to their aggressive neighbor.

According to the American military, the famous M-14 could easily cope with such a role. Naturally, not a modern sniper option, and the usual army. With a wooden bed.

And overseas friends sent a mountain of these monsters. Say, nothing is sorry for you, own, get ready to beat the enemy on its territory. And Latvia rose in one system with Estonia, Lithuania and Niger, as a country where these weapons are still in service.

True, in order to sweeten the pill, the United States passed some more state-of-the-art M16A1. But this is not for everyone, of course. This is for a platoon of honor. The rest and run with the M14. In the States, they ran. And even tried to fight.

By the way, in the USA the M14 rifle is a kind of record holder for the shortest service life in the country's army. Very quickly, they began to get rid of it. First they sold all over the world, then they started distributing. How to help.

And now, finally, the hegemony of M14 is over. And it will be replaced by a truly new and modern weapon! Proven in several conflicts and standing in service with many countries of the world. Not less known than the M14.

German G36. Yes, it in some quantities (comparable to the M16, that is, several dozen pieces) has already indicated its presence in the Latvian army. And this fact is very pleased all involved in this case. Indeed, why not rejoice? Latvians will finally receive not a museum piece weighing under 6 kg, but a real weapon. And the Germans, too, can be satisfied, because a small piece of the problem disappears, what to do with the G36, which are being decommissioned by the Bundeswehr. In the smelter can not send ...

Yes, once G36 was considered the best in the world in the West. It was adopted by the army of Malaysia, Indonesia, Latvia, Lithuania and Spain. She entered into service with police and army units of more than 30 countries of the world, including the United Kingdom, the United States, Poland and a bunch of others. But in Germany itself things are not so optimistic.

The German Minister of Defense didn’t just take it into his head to conduct an examination. It turns out that the German military, who fought in Afghanistan, complained of overheating with the continuous shooting of 150 and more cartridges. But what is 150 ammunition with G36 rate of fire over 700 rounds per minute and shop in 30 pieces? In a real fight?

Let the 700 number be technical data. In a real battle, shooting may not be as intense, it still turns out that after a few minutes the machine spits anywhere, but not at the aiming point. The military complained that it was practically difficult to hit targets that were farther than 100 meters, despite the fact that the shooting efficiency claimed by the manufacturer was up to 800 meters. But in fact, according to the soldiers of the Bundeswehr, it is lost after 200 meters, and because of overheating, there is a danger of distortions and jamming of the cartridge.

Well, even experts and without a study ordered by the German Defense Minister noted such disadvantages of G36: plastic fragility, heaviness without a magazine (3,63 kg weighs), the need for mandatory cleaning after three thousand shots (otherwise, the rifle is wedge), the difficulty of cleaning complex construction and lack of (!) ramrod.

By the way, AK-74, in which the metal is twice as large, weighs only 3,2 kg. It is desirable to clean, but ... you can do without, as practice shows, to wait for a calmer environment. About the ramrod just keep quiet.

So, in Germany scandal, and in Latvia everything is fine. And the decision was made: not only to leave the G36 assault rifles in service with the Latvian army, but also to give them to the State Border Guard and to the volunteers from the “Land Guard” (“Earth Watch”).

Just think ... But beautiful and, most importantly, ideologically correct. And the fact that the wedge ... And shops from low temperatures burst ... so in Latvia there is no frost, and no one will burn into the white light, like a penny. Well this is the Latvian arrows, and not anyone!

Moreover, "Heckler & Koch" reported that its assault rifle ... is not designed for continuous continuous fire.

If it may seem to someone that I was so disgraced for the Latvian army, believe me, no. They would and MP-40 completely gone. Plus also historically competent.

Pyzhatsya gentlemen limitrofy, puzhatsya, and the point? Unless, of course, this rearmament will allow them to hold out in case of something not two hours, but two hours and ten minutes - well, then it is normal. Justified, especially as a freebie.

So much for the European approach to defense. Who tanks will throw, who will not pick up the BMP after the exercises (out of fear not to be taken back), who will throw the rifles. The main thing is free!

Well live, gentlemen Europeans? The main thing that you like. And we that we and “Kalashnikov” is still quite.
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  1. Mik13
    Mik13 22 March 2016 06: 19
    +7
    By the way, in the USA, the M14 rifle is a kind of record holder for the shortest service life in the country's army. Very quickly they began to get rid of it. At first they sold all over the world, then now, they began to distribute. As help.

    This is because the concept has changed. And so the rifle is very good. The sniper version is still in service.

    By the way, since the world has changed (s), and bulletproof vests have appeared in the armies as mandatory equipment, I would choose the M-14, well, certainly not the G-36 ... what kind of plastic happiness ...

    So satisfied with the choice of the Ministry of Defense of Latvia.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 22 March 2016 07: 22
      +7
      M-14 is an excellent rifle. Only expensive, because the milled box, the barrel is chrome-plated, precision, and the notorious transition to an intermediate cartridge ... 7,62x51 is more powerful than the 5,56x45, and due to the high quality of manufacture, the M-14 was accurate to disgrace for gross army weapons.
      So yes, the G-36 is in the hands of the Baltic states, all the same, until they realize that they need to shoot, the war will end laughing .
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 22 March 2016 07: 55
        +42
        Quote: inkass_98
        M-14 is an excellent rifle. Only expensive, because the milled box, the barrel is chrome-plated, precision, and the notorious transition to an intermediate cartridge ... 7,62x51 is more powerful than the 5,56x45, and due to the high quality of manufacture, the M-14 was accurate to disgrace for gross army weapons.

        Well, just pornography. Have you tried writing novels for adults?
        With a firm hand, he grabbed her by the bare chrome precision barrel and with a decisive movement brought the store directly into the milled receiver.
        The jerk of the shutter shook all her exact naturalness to the very outrage. A feeling of fullness arose in the chamber.

        Tense seconds dragged on at the border of life and death ...

        repeat love
        1. midivan
          midivan 22 March 2016 23: 41
          +14
          Quote: Mik13
          With a firm hand, he grabbed her by the bare chrome precision barrel and with a decisive movement brought the store directly into the milled receiver.
          The jerk of the shutter shook all her exact naturalness to the very outrage. A feeling of fullness arose in the chamber.

          Tense seconds dragged on at the border of life and death ...

          belay Well, you are talented !!! I have already moved the grenade launcher lol
        2. kukan913
          kukan913 25 March 2016 00: 41
          0
          BRAVO maestro
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      4. RUSS
        RUSS 22 March 2016 09: 21
        +15
        Quote: inkass_98
        M-14 is an excellent rifle.

        Anachronism is complete! For hunting it is! laughing
        1. Hon
          Hon 22 March 2016 12: 09
          -5
          Quote: RUSS
          Anachronism is complete! For hunting it is!

          What is this anachronism inferior to, for example, SVD?
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          2. Kenneth
            Kenneth 22 March 2016 13: 01
            +5
            To everyone. Accuracy, sighting range, accuracy, muzzle velocity.
            1. Hon
              Hon 22 March 2016 18: 40
              +6
              Quote: Kenneth
              To everyone. Accuracy, sighting range, accuracy, muzzle velocity.

              muzzle velocity of the bullet SVD 830 meters, M14 850 meters
              effective range of SVD 600-800 meters, sniper version M14 (21) 600-800 meters when using a Leatherwood 3X-9X ART sight
        2. Havoc
          Havoc 22 March 2016 13: 46
          +9
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: inkass_98
          M-14 is an excellent rifle.

          Anachronism is complete! For hunting it is! laughing


          Not having created a good Automatic sniper rifle, the Americans were forced to return to the old M-14, but they could not create exactly the modern Battlefield rifle. SVD wins on all technical indicators.
          1. Hon
            Hon 22 March 2016 16: 37
            +2
            Quote: Havoc
            Not having created a good Automatic sniper rifle, the Americans were forced to return to the old M-14, but they could not create exactly the modern Battlefield rifle. SVD wins on all technical indicators.

            In what specific parameters does the SVD exceed the M-14?
            And when they needed a rifle they created the SR-25. They simply created such a code rifle, realized the need for the availability of self-loading sniper rifles, before that they used only high-precision bolts
            1. Havoc
              Havoc 23 March 2016 12: 04
              +4
              Yes, the fact that the SVD is only officially in service with 28 countries and also, for example, that the M 14 is an EXTREMELY capricious rifle.
              SR-25 is an upgraded model of AR-15, that is, a civilian version.
              1. Hon
                Hon 23 March 2016 13: 43
                +3
                Quote: Havoc
                Yes, the fact that the SVD is only officially in service with 28 countries and also, for example, that the M 14 is an EXTREMELY capricious rifle.
                SR-25 is an upgraded model of AR-15, that is, a civilian version.

                The M16 is also an AR-15 variant, it was developed in the 90s in service since 2005, so what is the civilian version of the rifle, does it implore its fighting qualities?
                And where did the information about the extreme moodiness of the M14 rifle come from? probably from the same sources as the opinion that the initial bullet speed is supposedly lower than that of the SVD laughing M14 is a modernized M1 with which the Americans fought for a long time, the main difference in automatic fire and power through detachable stores for 20 rounds. Now the rifle is operated by 14 countries
                1. Havoc
                  Havoc 23 March 2016 19: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: Hon
                  The M16 is also an AR-15 variant, it was developed in the 90s in service since 2005, so what is the civilian version of the rifle, does it implore its fighting qualities?


                  In wrote frank nonsense M 16 adopted for service in 1964.
                  1. Hon
                    Hon 23 March 2016 22: 32
                    0
                    I had in mind SR-25, developed in the nineties, in 2005 it was adopted to replace the M14, now it is gradually replacing it in the army
        3. Havoc
          Havoc 22 March 2016 13: 48
          +2
          Further continuation of the modification of the M-14.
        4. Xpyct89
          Xpyct89 22 March 2016 14: 06
          +1
          but I think it’s
      5. Forest
        Forest 22 March 2016 09: 28
        +4
        M14 is good for single shooting, not bursts.
        1. Mikado
          Mikado 22 March 2016 17: 44
          +3
          Quote: Forest
          M14 is good for single shooting, not bursts.

          I agree completely. The rifle was made under the influence of World War II, and the US Army in that war was the only one where the most massive weapon was self-loading rifle. ABC-36 was also made automatic, but shooting bursts from it was also not easy. For a powerful rifle cartridge.
      6. Astrey
        Astrey 26 March 2016 00: 07
        0
        Quote: inkass_98
        G-36 balts in the hands, anyway, until they figure out what to shoot, the war is already over laughing .


        It's not a rifle but a soldier. Lug Forty-year-old AK-74 and shoot thirty-year-old ammunition, but by NATO standards. This is no health in peacetime. Either the fuse will stick to the glove, then the shutter handle will dry on the fingers. The shooting results are not joyful, and so - who cares about the results if the photos resonance like a submarine? And - which is especially nice - completely free!
        PS - the name absolutely coincided with the comments. smile Many thanks to the author for the work done. yes
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    3. bocsman
      bocsman 22 March 2016 08: 47
      +4
      Quote: Mik13
      This is because the concept has changed. And so the rifle is very good. The sniper version is still in service.


      And how do you like the button for releasing the shutter when it does not reach the working position ?! The miracle of inventive thought! And in my opinion it's like a soldier on crutches on the battlefield. Well, about what it is to run with a piece of iron with a weight of six kilograms, I generally keep quiet.
      1. Mik13
        Mik13 22 March 2016 09: 32
        +4
        Quote: bocsman
        And how do you like the button for releasing the shutter when it does not reach the working position ?! The miracle of inventive thought! And in my opinion it's like a soldier on crutches on the battlefield.

        Where is the send button? On the M-14?
        You surprised me so much that I will ask you for confirmation. Proof there or something else ...
      2. Viktortopwar
        Viktortopwar 22 March 2016 10: 21
        +2
        The button for releasing the shutter is actually on the M-16.
      3. Hon
        Hon 22 March 2016 12: 13
        +2
        Quote: bocsman
        And how do you like the button for releasing the shutter when it does not reach the working position ?!

        But in any case, if the store doesn’t reach the shutter, you just need to hit the lever, on AK this problem is solved in a similar way. Do you know when for a long time without cleaning, but with intensive shooting, and even sand and dirt, the shutter does not reach.
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 22 March 2016 11: 46
      +4
      Is it that it turns out that all over the world no one but us can do small arms? Something is doubtful ...
      1. Poppy
        Poppy 22 March 2016 15: 04
        +6
        they know how, but they don’t rush to supply good things to Latvians for free
    5. Hon
      Hon 22 March 2016 12: 07
      +5
      Quote: Mik13
      This is because the concept has changed. And so the rifle is very good. The sniper version is still in service.

      By the way, since the world has changed (s), and bulletproof vests have appeared in the armies as mandatory equipment, I would choose the M-14, well, certainly not the G-36 ... what kind of plastic happiness ...

      So satisfied with the choice of the Ministry of Defense of Latvia.

      The rifle is really not good, and it was not removed from service, it was replaced by the light M16, but remained in service with the Marine Corps, and they are the best shooters in the US Army. In addition, the army returned the rifle to the system when they decided that there was a need for self-loading sniper rifles, by the way it weighs 5,1 kg with an equipped magazine, and not under 6 kg, as the author claims.
      Only this rifle is not suitable for the assault role, the rifle cartridges are not intermediate
  2. Good cat
    Good cat 22 March 2016 06: 24
    +2
    They would throw some more junk, do not mind it.
    1. cap
      cap 22 March 2016 07: 13
      0
      Quote: Good cat
      Pyzhatsya gentlemen limitrofy, puzhatsya, and the point? Unless, of course, this rearmament will allow them to hold out in case of something not two hours, but two hours and ten minutes - well, then it is normal. Justified, especially as a freebie.

      So much for the euro approach to defense issues. Who will throw the tanks, who will not take the BMP after the exercises (for fear not to take it back), who will throw the rifles. The main thing - for free!

      Well live, gentlemen Europeans? The main thing that you like. And we that we and “Kalashnikov” is still quite.

      Quote: Good cat
      They would throw some more junk, do not mind it.


      Two hours is enough for any junk.
      "What would the child not amuse himself with, if only he would not cry" wassat
    2. RBLip
      RBLip 22 March 2016 08: 18
      +9
      Quote: Good cat
      Would throw them some more junk, do not mind

      I agree. form, for example ... this one suits them better.
    3. ochakow703
      ochakow703 24 March 2016 16: 23
      0
      I will not give PPSh! This is a pity.
  3. mirag2
    mirag2 22 March 2016 06: 24
    +6
    New Latvian troops:

    1. mirag2
      mirag2 22 March 2016 06: 32
      +2
      The enemy is preparing ... Lithuanian special forces:
      1. MarKon
        MarKon 22 March 2016 12: 59
        0
        Peculiarities of the National Hunt?
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    3. MarKon
      MarKon 22 March 2016 12: 55
      +1
      Capturing Estonians for confidential conversations
    4. Spnsr
      Spnsr 22 March 2016 20: 47
      +1
      Quote: mirag2
      New Latvian troops:


      what is this idiocy? what are they doing debilov!
    5. Shuttle
      Shuttle 24 March 2016 12: 09
      +1
      Quote: mirag2
      New Latvian troops:

      I looked.
      Well, really a good night quest for rallying a pioneer squad. A kind of night "Zarnitsa".

      The question is - why are they taking the oath at night? So that the Russians do not see?
      Unclear.
    6. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 24 March 2016 13: 34
      +1
      a lot of DB! according to Lavrov ...
    7. bald
      bald 24 March 2016 16: 05
      +1
      THIS IS STILL ABOUT OUR PENALTY !!! THEY ARE AT ALL BEASTS !!! THESE AS AND OUR PENALTY EVEN AUTOMATICS DO NOT GIVE !!! TODAY EXACTLY I WILL NOT FUN !!!
    8. OlegLex
      OlegLex 24 March 2016 17: 26
      0
      It’s not even meat, it’s some kind of kindergarten
  4. silver169
    silver169 22 March 2016 06: 29
    +8
    Hans are going to remove the G-36 from weapons. But do not waste good, let the proud Baltic limitrophies use it. Not for free of course.
  5. would
    would 22 March 2016 06: 32
    0
    And they could have done it much easier and more efficiently. To do, and if there are no necessary productions to buy / ask for an AK under NATO 5.56. I am more than sure that you can simply modify the existing AK. But we decided to do everything through one place ... It turns out quite ironically, because the tradition "through one place" is attributed primarily to Russia.
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 22 March 2016 07: 26
      +2
      So the hundredth series of AK (101, 102) and goes under NATO cartridges, have long been making such models. This is a purely export version of the machine.
      1. would
        would 22 March 2016 07: 35
        +1
        Of course, they will not buy automatic machines from the Russian Federation, so the hundredth series in flight. But it’s easy to buy the same 5,56 mm kbs wz.96 Beryl from the same Poles.
        1. tank64rus
          tank64rus 22 March 2016 13: 54
          +2
          And they are proud to buy AK from us .. Just like the Ukrainians, it’s called spitefully my mother’s frostbitten ears. They are not good at Geyropu. Therefore, the second-class population is second-rate weapons.
    2. La-5
      La-5 22 March 2016 08: 41
      +2
      Quote: rait
      And they could have done it much easier and more efficiently. To do, and if there are no necessary productions to buy / ask for an AK under NATO 5.56. I am more than sure that you can simply modify the existing AK. But we decided to do everything through one place ... It turns out quite ironically, because the tradition "through one place" is attributed primarily to Russia.

      No less Russophobes - the Poles use Kalash and do not bathe, but they probably laugh quietly over the Baltic states, so that the Russians would not hear.
  6. RuslanD36
    RuslanD36 22 March 2016 06: 38
    +4
    Damn, a small and proud country. Have you ever thought that ammunition is pressed for weapons? And in which case - we will stop selling cartridges (although knowing our some bureaucrats).

    So the Latvians are correctly rearming to NATO standards. Another thing is that they have no money. But there are older brothers' you can wear T-shirts and jeans. The main thing is that the wife does not have to wear it)
    1. Poppy
      Poppy 22 March 2016 15: 06
      +1
      make cartridges for AK abroad
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 22 March 2016 06: 39
    0
    I doubt that the Latvian hens, and the cocks in the photo, can shoot AT THE SIDE OF THE TARGET, not to mention getting into it! laughing
    1. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian 22 March 2016 21: 47
      +4
      Many (thanks to liberal legislation) are able to shoot. Jittering is inappropriate.
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 22 March 2016 06: 41
    +6
    Lord Limotrophs are puffing, puffing, but what's the point?... in the louboutins and in the drop dead pants ..
  9. Just BB
    Just BB 22 March 2016 06: 45
    +7
    The lot is "adyn small, but very proud bird".
    They lived in the "occupation" - they were "the second Paris", became "free" - they receive "rags" and "gastryat" in Europe.
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  11. standing
    standing 22 March 2016 06: 57
    +3
    M-14 is a good rifle. A bit old, but: a milled receiver, quality materials and assembly. And the M-16 stamping was low-grade. But cheaper M-14 times three. And an soldier doesn’t need an expensive weapon, by the way, all governments consider it. Our Kalash does not lose ground precisely in terms of price-quality ratio.
    quality.
  12. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 22 March 2016 07: 07
    +3
    Yes, let the Labas at least trebuchet master!
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 22 March 2016 10: 37
      +7
      Quote: hohryakov066
      Yes, let the Labas at least trebuchet master!

      I read somewhere that, in addition to the army, they rely heavily on citizens holding hunting weapons. In short, scary to horror)))
      1. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 22 March 2016 22: 55
        +2
        In Latvia, there are a lot of war trunks on hand. Legally. And yes, nobody shot anyone, and the crime rate fell. It may not work in Russia, because many Romale and mountain children have passports, but it works very well with us.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 24 March 2016 11: 57
          +3
          Take my word for it and we have enough legal in our hands. We have 5 units. I am silent about illegal, probably twice as much. I talked to the employees from the permit, and especially recently the youth and ... women have been arming themselves !!!
          And this is with a rather tough selection during design.
          About the children of mountains and romale, do not overestimate their number and influence on the Russians. At the right time, they will be swept away in an hour.

          I really liked the title ... "Guard of the Earth" ... They are going to campaign and defend the earth from extraterrestrial invasion ...
  13. ImPerts
    ImPerts 22 March 2016 07: 36
    +2
    That everyone is attacking a small and defenseless country? The problems are all solvable. In 1939, everything was quietly and peacefully decided. Who was nothing, he became everything. And in the future it will be so. They will return to their usual Kalash (if we need it), quietly - peacefully.
    1. Mik13
      Mik13 22 March 2016 07: 48
      +5
      Quote: ImPerts
      That everyone is attacking a small and defenseless country? The problems are all solvable. In 1939, everything was quietly and peacefully decided. Who was nothing, he became everything. And in the future it will be so. They will return to their usual Kalash (if we need it), quietly - peacefully.

      Come on ... quietly ...
      They wrote in their memoirs that the jubilation was nationwide ... similar to the Crimean people after "Krymnash"
      You can understand. The standard of living in the Baltics was ... that is, there was no standard of living from the word at all. The saying even at the beginning of the twentieth century was - "he has, like a Latvian - # &% yes soul"That is, almost like now.
      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts 22 March 2016 12: 26
        +1
        Quote: Mik13
        They wrote in the memoirs - exultation was popular

        Especially hi
      2. Anglorussian
        Anglorussian 22 March 2016 23: 00
        0
        In Latvia it was under Ulmanis (36-39) that the standard of living soared high (realtors will not let you lie). And with the union, too. And so it was no worse and no better than everywhere in Europe.
  14. tundra
    tundra 22 March 2016 08: 00
    +2
    God is on you that we do not care.
    Now it’s as if the Latvian army cannot be defeated.
    Uncle Sam sent them the best weapons in the world.
    Can calm down and stop yapping.
    Look at the photo what invincible.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 22 March 2016 13: 20
      0
      May calm down and stop yapping. ,,
      until commands follow, they will bark. This is for a long time.
  15. Hooks
    Hooks 22 March 2016 08: 03
    +1
    In order to attract attention to themselves, to demonstrate adherence to revered traditions and "European values", Latvians would have to re-arm themselves with the MR-40.
    All the same, they only know how to shoot in the back.
    1. Anglorussian
      Anglorussian 22 March 2016 23: 02
      0
      On whose bayonets did Comrade Blank gain power? No, not just in the back.
  16. pofigist_26_rus
    pofigist_26_rus 22 March 2016 08: 23
    +1
    Quote: RuslanD36
    Damn, a small and proud country. Have you ever thought that ammunition is pressed for weapons? And in which case - we will stop selling cartridges (although knowing our some bureaucrats).

    So the Latvians are correctly rearming to NATO standards. Another thing is that they have no money. But there are older brothers' you can wear T-shirts and jeans. The main thing is that the wife does not have to wear it)


    I will clarify about cartridges, this good is produced not only on the territory of the Russian Federation, but also in a number of CIS countries. And what about the rearmament of the Baltic "armies", taking into account the quantitative composition and training, as well as the terrain, we can say that the hostilities will be focal in nature. The main problems for our army will begin after the seizure of territories. there is a high likelihood of partisan actions on the part of marginal groups and the part of the population sympathetic to them. In this regard, the transition to the NATO patron is unpromising, since It is easier to replenish ammunition in the encirclement and in the occupied territories at the expense of the enemy, and it is tactically more correct to have weapons for his ammunition.
  17. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 22 March 2016 08: 40
    +5
    in this case, Latvia exchanged Soviet awl for European Vaseline.
  18. 72jora72
    72jora72 22 March 2016 09: 32
    +7
    By the way, AK-74, in which the metal is twice as large, weighs only 3,2 kg. It is desirable to clean, but ... you can do without, as practice shows, to wait for a calmer environment. About the ramrod just keep quiet.
    If a lot of clay and mud stuck, you can just knock on the tree (real experience) .....
  19. wandlitz
    wandlitz 22 March 2016 09: 34
    +1
    Latvia in this case acts according to the principle "In spite of all the ears will frostbite ..."
  20. andrew42
    andrew42 22 March 2016 09: 49
    +2
    They would still have been given old German helmets with "horns". Let them groan with delight.
  21. Petrucho
    Petrucho 22 March 2016 09: 53
    +5
    Good day!
    I'll put in my five cents. At one of the holidays in Riga, our valiant troops offered everyone to dabble their wunderwaf. And if you didn’t surprise anyone with a glock, then the G36 made a bad impression on me. The most important impression is a heavy one! I'm not a jockster, but not flimsy either. The machine was naturally without cartridges and a magazine, but still hard. The second - I personally found the shutter cocking handle uncomfortable, which first needs to be bent and only then cock the shutter. (I don’t know if there is a shutter lag this is certainly not so scary) And the last one is not convenient. This is all, of course, consider how the impressions of a person who never fired from her, nor who threw a march with her, but what is, that is. At the same time, the AK74 in the hands is much nicer, more natural.
    As for Heckler’s overheating, I’ll give a video. The kid argues that the rifle does not shoot less closely when overheated. See for yourself, I can’t say that he convinced me 100%, but at least the person checked, but did not take the word for everything and made far-reaching conclusions.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2E2Vw--wAM
  22. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 22 March 2016 10: 02
    +7
    According to the American military, the famous M-14 could easily cope with such a role. Naturally, not a modern sniper option, and the usual army. With a wooden bed.
    Now every Latvian should feel like a delta!
    1. Havoc
      Havoc 22 March 2016 13: 52
      +1
      Quote: Red_Hamer
      According to the American military, the famous M-14 could easily cope with such a role. Naturally, not a modern sniper option, and the usual army. With a wooden bed.
      Now every Latvian should feel like a delta!
  23. krops777
    krops777 22 March 2016 11: 02
    +5
    Latvia decided to exchange Soviet awl for European soap

    Well, given the change of orientation after joining the geyropu, this is probably better for them. smile
  24. wedwa
    wedwa 22 March 2016 11: 12
    -3
    The author of the article is an obvious crybaby for someone else's grief. Firstly, a great writer and dreamer who does not have knowledge, for that, this gap is filled with a colorful story.
    M14 and AK (Kalashnikov) of various modifications are in the militia (Zemessardze - Zemes'sar'dze - guards / guards / lands), but is not the main weapon, is used for training purposes. The main weapon of Zemessardze is AK4 (G3), while border guards have AK (Kalashnikov) modifications. Although part of the National Armed Forces (Nacionālie Bruņotie Spēki) includes the sense of Zemessardze plans for the rearmament of the G36 is in the Border Service, which reports to the Ministry of Internal AffairsIekšlietu Ministrija).
    Also, except for the first half of the 90s, Latvia did not receive significant gifts in the form of weapons. All weapons were purchased at their own expense, including the G36, which were also produced according to special specifications for Latvia. And the next purchases will also be at their own expense.
    There is no reason to consider the G36 an obsolete weapon, especially against the background of the same AK (Kalashnikov). Those who cry here that the G36 is too heavy or is overheating clearly did not shoot from AK (Kalashnikov), M14 and AK4 (G3). Compared to them, the G36 is an ultra-precise, light weapon.
    In general, in the news portals and especially in the comment sections, a comic situation is created when news appears about Latvia or the Baltic countries that they are buying new small arms, uniforms or several hundred armored vehicles. Also, several tanks will appear in the territory of Latvia, as panic hysteria and imitation of violent activity begin due to the rewriting of the names of existing tanks in the new Tank armies.
    Is it just funny gentlemen, aren't you ashamed?
    The Baltic countries do not claim to seize the territory of neighboring countries, their weapons and financing are simply not comparable with their neighbors, and the main goal is to protect their territories.
    1. Mooh
      Mooh 22 March 2016 12: 46
      +11
      the main goal is to protect their territories

      From whom? The Baltic states have long lost their strategic importance. Yes, and Ust-Luga was built. The only moment for which war can be fought, and even then not with Latvia but with Lithuania, is a land communication with Kaliningrad. Which of course is pleasant, but clearly does not justify the potential hemorrhoids.
      At the same time, fuck nobody needs, the quietly dying limotrophs are constantly rude to a strong neighbor and in every way spoil his image in the international arena. Why is it asking?
    2. sunzhenets
      sunzhenets 22 March 2016 13: 00
      +9
      The Baltic countries do not claim to seize the territory of neighboring countries

      Well, thank God. And then we were worried ...
      1. Mooh
        Mooh 22 March 2016 14: 26
        +2
        By the way pretend repeat Estonia and Latvia 100% have territorial claims against the Russian Federation. I’m not sure about Lithuania, but I think there are also. So do not relax ahead of time laughing
    3. Alf
      Alf 22 March 2016 19: 03
      +1
      Quote: wedwa
      Also, several tanks will appear in the territory of Latvia, as panic hysteria begins.

      Quote: wedwa
      It's just funny gentlemen

      You are right, this is ridiculous, new tanks in the Baltic states.
      And about hysteria, then again, you are right.
      These reports of increasing the military power of the Baltic states cause hysterical and homeric laughter-Shaw, again?
    4. Victorio
      Victorio 24 March 2016 16: 54
      0
      Quote: wedwa
      The author of the article is an obvious crybaby for someone else's grief. Firstly, a great writer and dreamer who does not have knowledge, for that, this gap is filled with a colorful story.
      M14 and AK (Kalashnikov) of various modifications are in the militia (Zemessardze - Zemes'sar'dze - guards / guards / lands), but is not the main weapon, is used for training purposes. The main weapon of Zemessardze is AK4 (G3), while border guards have AK (Kalashnikov) modifications. Although part of the National Armed Forces (Nacionālie Bruņotie Spēki) includes the sense of Zemessardze plans for the rearmament of the G36 is in the Border Service, which reports to the Ministry of Internal AffairsIekšlietu Ministrija).
      Also, except for the first half of the 90s, Latvia did not receive significant gifts in the form of weapons. All weapons were purchased at their own expense, including the G36, which were also produced according to special specifications for Latvia. And the next purchases will also be at their own expense.
      There is no reason to consider the G36 an obsolete weapon, especially against the background of the same AK (Kalashnikov). Those who cry here that the G36 is too heavy or is overheating clearly did not shoot from AK (Kalashnikov), M14 and AK4 (G3). Compared to them, the G36 is an ultra-precise, light weapon.
      In general, in the news portals and especially in the comment sections, a comic situation is created when news appears about Latvia or the Baltic countries that they are buying new small arms, uniforms or several hundred armored vehicles. Also, several tanks will appear in the territory of Latvia, as panic hysteria and imitation of violent activity begin due to the rewriting of the names of existing tanks in the new Tank armies.
      Is it just funny gentlemen, aren't you ashamed?
      The Baltic countries do not claim to seize the territory of neighboring countries, their weapons and financing are simply not comparable with their neighbors, and the main goal is the protection of their territories.

      ===
      I do not agree with the latter, they are forced to pull this strap.
  25. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 22 March 2016 11: 16
    0
    Well now - very strong become))))) with such a message))))) 6 kg in weight
  26. the47th
    the47th 22 March 2016 11: 57
    +1
    The German military are so funny: 3,6 kg is a lot for them, and until the mid-90s they ran with the G3 at 4,4 kg - and everything was fine, the Bundeswehr did not stamp its foot to replace the G3 "right now!" And one more thing: if the military managed to fire continuously 150 rounds in battle, then for each soldier, a squire is just desperately needed, who would only do what he was carrying spare magazines. Well, the obligatory cleaning after 3 thousand shots is generally beyond the bounds. "Look, the overseas M16 does not need cleaning at all!" The lack of cleaning accessories is a joint, I agree, but a joint, which is already ubiquitous in modern rifles.
  27. Kenneth
    Kenneth 22 March 2016 12: 50
    +4
    Cho attached. Normal is such a pretty little rifle. And taking a picture with her is cool. And what else is needed from the weapons of the Latvian army.
  28. MarKon
    MarKon 22 March 2016 13: 01
    0
    Why are you wearing gloves? Is it cold or DOF like that?
  29. Dimy4
    Dimy4 22 March 2016 13: 30
    +1
    I’m silent about the ramrod

    Damn, on AK when disassembling, first a pencil case (from the butt) or a ramrod? I forgot!
    PS (off topic a little).
    1. Chazoy
      Chazoy 22 March 2016 14: 08
      +4
      So, first we unfasten the magazine, check if there is a cartridge in the chamber, separate the ramrod, then the pencil case ... The ramrod is the first, however))))
    2. bamsik
      bamsik 22 March 2016 20: 12
      +2
      ramrod)), in case your finger gets stuck under the cover of the pencil case, there will be something to pick
  30. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 22 March 2016 14: 09
    0
    Quote: wedwa
    In general, in the news portals and especially in the comment sections, a comic situation is created when news appears about Latvia or the Baltic countries that they are buying new small arms, uniforms or several hundred armored vehicles. Also, several tanks will appear in the territory of Latvia, as panic hysteria and imitation of violent activity begin due to the rewriting of the names of existing tanks in the new Tank armies.
    Is it just funny gentlemen, aren't you ashamed?

    You should be ashamed of your tongue-tied and hypocritical politicians who, with their statements about the so-called. "Russian military threat" and other delirium, just create such a "comic situation".
    I actually wanted something else, but when I saw your comment I could not resist.
    In Vilnius there is a museum of military vehicles (very interesting in itself), where, as I understand it, exhibits put up by the valiant Lithuanian army by "Western allies" are collected, as well as some former Soviet equipment. The delivery principle is the same: "take ... what is useless for me". There was hardly any benefit to the Lithuanian soldiers from this trash. But - not a "scoop", "west", "firm"! By the way, judging by the photos, the former Soviet cars look much fresher. For example, here is a "Dodge" model 1945:
    http://forums.balancer.ru/tech/forum/2012/05/t32244,20--a-est-zdes-fanaty-gruzov
    ikov.html
  31. Brigadier
    Brigadier 22 March 2016 14: 26
    +4
    Right now, I thought ... We have everything in the mobile warehouses! And let’s we stick on our American trilinears the American laibes and push them to the Latvians through third countries! It doesn’t matter to them, the main thing is that the tags are not Russian. And they are happy and help our budget! laughing
    1. Hon
      Hon 22 March 2016 16: 40
      0
      Quote: Brigadier
      Right now, I thought ... We have everything in the mobile warehouses! And let’s we stick on our American trilinears the American laibes and push them to the Latvians through third countries! It doesn’t matter to them, the main thing is that the tags are not Russian. And they are happy and help our budget!

      since they need to join NATO under NATO patron, the more they will not be able to push, they need free
  32. Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist 22 March 2016 14: 54
    +5
    Quote: Red_Hamer
    According to the American military, the famous M-14 could easily cope with such a role. Naturally, not a modern sniper option, and the usual army. With a wooden bed.
    Now every Latvian should feel like a delta!


    Something like this laughing
  33. Yurich
    Yurich 22 March 2016 16: 41
    -2
    Found a little comparison
    1. Hon
      Hon 22 March 2016 18: 27
      -3
      a little information to compare. In the picture, the disassembly of the M16 COMPLEX rifle is incomplete
      M16 cost less than AK
      And the myth of unreliability is associated with the first models that "effective" managers worked on before launching into the series, and the disputable American gunpowder, due to which our SVTs were still wedged, later the shortcomings were corrected, and the Israelis used M4 for a long time in desert conditions and did not complain
      1. Shuttle
        Shuttle 24 March 2016 12: 25
        +2
        Quote: Hon
        a little information to compare. In the picture, the disassembly of the M16 COMPLEX rifle is incomplete
        M16 cost less than AK

        M-16 costs about $ 1200.
        AK-74М for the Russian army - 13 495 rub.

        Even if you buy it from some Czechs, it will still come out less than a few bucks. So about the cost of M-16 less than that of AK - a lie. I testify.

        Quote: Hon

        And the myth of unreliability is associated with the first models that "effective" managers worked on before launching into the series, and the disputable American gunpowder, due to which our SVTs were still wedged, later the shortcomings were corrected, and the Israelis used M4 for a long time in desert conditions and did not complain

        Kalashnikov assault rifle - the standard of reliability of weapons.
        1. would
          would 24 March 2016 20: 42
          0
          Kalashnikov assault rifle - the standard of reliability of weapons.


          The vent gas recharge system physically cannot be the standard of reliability. The reliability standard is revolver systems where no spring has been cocked and no spring is tensioned and, as a result, it does not tighten, there is no gas pipe or shutter that clogs, and there are no springs working under overloads from a shot. Almost only the barrel wears out stupidly, and it gets dirty along with the drum. This is a real standard of reliability next to which not only AK is not standing.
  34. wedwa
    wedwa 22 March 2016 17: 05
    +2
    Quote: Sunflower
    Well, thank God. And then we were worried ...


    Quote: MooH
    By the way pretend repeat Estonia and Latvia 100% have territorial claims against the Russian Federation. I’m not sure about Lithuania, but I think there are also. So do not relax ahead of time laughing


    They do not claim armed seizure, but they wish to diplomatically return the territories that were part of Latvia and Estonia until 1940. With Lithuania, the situation is more complicated.
    On August 23, 1944, the USSR separated the territories of Abrene (Pytalovo), Petseri (Pechory) and Jaanilinn (Ivangorod) from the previously annexed republics of Latvia and Estonia. The Republic of Latvia rejected its claims on Abren on May 27, 2007, ratifying the border treaty with the Russian Federation. In 2014, Estonia signed a border treaty with the Russian Federation.
    The situation with Lithuania is more complicated, according to the Moscow peace treaty of 1920, Lithuania gained vast territories in the east, in the beating Vilnius province, which included such cities as Lida, Grodno and so on. But these territories were captured by Poland in 1920, and Lithuania also claimed to be parts of the territory of the Suwalk region. At the same time, autochthonous ethnic Lithuanians lived in East Prussia, some of them were evicted to Germany after World War II. And the territory of Vilnius Krai was stirred up by Lithuania after the wars only partially. I do not know that Lithuania now officially has any territorial claims against Belarus, Poland and the Russian Federation.
    So it speaks absurdly of the territorial claims of the Baltic countries.
    1. Former battalion commander
      Former battalion commander 24 March 2016 15: 17
      0
      Germany will have territorial claims to them ... soon ... As soon as the Germans wake up from defeat from our fathers and grandfathers ... Then this dying "nation" will be exterminated.
  35. Irbenwolf
    Irbenwolf 22 March 2016 18: 56
    +8
    M14 is good for ... guerrilla warfare. Zeissargs are just a division of the level of trained partisans. It is not known how long it will take to smoke such partisans from all forests and farms. But sniper fire is usually conducted on command personnel ...

    The Americans are creating something like Chechen gangs in order to "bomb" the Russian media with little blood when a conflict breaks out with the thesis: "for what Putin is killing Russian boys." Then everything is according to the knurled scenario ... The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers and other structures are perfect for unleashing emotional pressure on the authorities in Russia.

    So, for such a scenario, the M14 is quite a weapon.

    It’s another matter that Latvia in its present form is only needed as a point of capital withdrawal from Russia, therefore they will not touch it ... and the Nazis are allowed to march.

    Sad ...
    1. Former battalion commander
      Former battalion commander 24 March 2016 15: 26
      0
      How long does it take to smoke from all forests

      In modern conditions in Geyrop, a terrorist war like the partisans of the Second World War is unpromising, for the simple reason of having the technical means to detect and destroy terrorists. This is not the time of the Second World War, when the Germans could not find partisans and staged total blockades of entire regions. Now this will not happen. From satellites and drones, they will calculate parking lots and immediately there carpet bombing. A terrorist can only survive while being at home, and in this case he doesn’t need to look for anyone, he came and ... dunked ...
    2. UNFAMILIAR
      UNFAMILIAR 24 March 2016 20: 45
      0
      Quote: IrbenWolf
      The Americans are creating something like Chechen gangs in order to "bomb" the Russian media with little blood when a conflict breaks out with the thesis: "for what Putin is killing Russian boys." Then everything is according to the knurled scenario ... The Committee of Soldiers' Mothers and other structures are perfect for unleashing emotional pressure on the authorities in Russia.

      When it comes time to fight for Kurland, I think no longer the Russian media (we don’t take surviving mobile printing houses for leaflets), not the committees of soldiers’s mothers, not the Kaiselit’s / land missionaries, and there will be no more Baltic armed forces, we’ll have to deal with the Germans and the British and Americans.
  36. magician
    magician 22 March 2016 19: 09
    0
    I wonder when it became a warrior traders? Latvian arrows - roll the field, seven are not afraid of one.
  37. Arkan
    Arkan 22 March 2016 20: 36
    0
    Heckler & Koch reported that its assault rifle ... is not designed for continuous continuous fire.


    He shot a couple of times, let the rifle rest!
  38. japs
    japs 22 March 2016 21: 54
    +7
    I, an old fool, still could not understand that this is our head of the so-called RB. "Litvins" raise? And the casket just opened (c). Our svyadomyya listened to Zhenya Psaku and strive to annex the Vilna and Riga regions and, simply, get the Belarusian Sea. After all, there is little hope for dill, when they still discover this.
  39. Fastenkov
    Fastenkov 22 March 2016 22: 44
    0
    I don’t understand why such small countries need an army. Their environment is calm. They can’t fight against terrorists, and against Russia all the more .... so formality.
  40. Des10
    Des10 22 March 2016 23: 31
    +2
    The article is very interesting and, especially, in that the author is a respected person at VO.
    However, to kick the poor small Baltic states - well, no matter how seriously, neighing - yes, but to mock that ...
    Well, apparently there are no other topics.
    But - about something else.
    If 74 shots are continuously fired from the AK-150 (I'm not talking about the weather conditions - it was in winter (!)) - the barrel will overheat too and the machine gun will "spit". With all the accompanying disadvantages - accuracy, safety ...
    Weight G36 - with optical and collimator sights (!) - is already in the database. If you attach a similar thing to AK74 --- the mass will be flush.
    Article minus not set.
    1. Mik13
      Mik13 23 March 2016 06: 10
      +1
      Quote: Des10
      If 74 shots are continuously fired from the AK-150 (I'm not talking about the weather conditions - it was in winter (!)) - the barrel will overheat too and the machine gun will "spit". With all the accompanying disadvantages - accuracy, safety ...

      After this, the AK cools down and returns to its original state. Because it is steel.

      In the G36, the "power set" between the barrel and the sight contains parts made of non-metals (plastic), which slightly change shape during the heating / cooling cycle. This is enough for the STP to crawl beyond the size of a tall figure at ranges of about 100 meters. That is, after each "heating" the weapon must be brought back to normal combat.

      That is, the problem is not the accuracy - the problem is a constructive flaw in the layout of weapons. Moreover, this is an fatal flaw.
  41. T62
    T62 24 March 2016 13: 13
    0
    The right-flank surname Ziedina.
  42. the47th
    the47th 24 March 2016 15: 13
    0
    And the guard of honor platoon was out of luck. M16A1 is still a shit, even without considering that they are all 30-50 years old.
  43. COJIDAT
    COJIDAT 24 March 2016 16: 07
    0
    I won’t eat, so I bite)))
  44. Easyboss
    Easyboss 24 March 2016 17: 50
    0
    Quote: Mik13
    The sniper version is still in service.

    Well, here nobody will surpass the famous Mosinka! It’s not worth arming, of course, but specialists really respect it.
  45. puskarinkis
    puskarinkis 24 March 2016 18: 46
    +2
    Come on, joke over the Balts. By and large, they do not care who rules them, what is bought and sold: AK or M-16 - the main thing is not to be responsible! Above they said that Russia is an enemy and everyone will nod and be silent so as not to be included in the lists of unreliable (there really is) and not to ruin their lives. So ... G36 or M14 is nothing personal, just business! Here they think not about defense, but about the observance of the rules ... You are not surprised when naked women in the EU protest against violence? The EU collapses, Brussels will still be blamed for all the troubles, as Moscow is now being blamed ... By the way, for Lithuania, the G36 is made with an aluminum forend, and ordinary "users" note that AK ... it is AK, even in Africa , even in Europe!
  46. Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist 24 March 2016 19: 41
    +1
    Quote: wedwa

    The Baltic countries do not claim to seize the territory of neighboring countries, their weapons and financing are simply not comparable with their neighbors, and the main goal is to protect their territories.


    Quote: wedwa
    Do not pretend to be armed capture but they wish to return diplomatically by the territories that were part of Latvia and Estonia until 1940. The situation with Lithuania is more complicated.


    For applicants for "diplomatic claims" ....

    We answer diplomatically so to speak:
  47. UNFAMILIAR
    UNFAMILIAR 24 March 2016 20: 48
    0
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/460/cbpk819.jpg
    Yes, the author is entitled to the account of the guard of honor
  48. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 24 March 2016 21: 55
    +1
    But in the photo ... This "
    a girl "with an assault rifle on her chest ... Is she" ready to fight severely "or ... has she seen enough American militants? "? (sorry for the expression). My son is older and more solid than her. And I have already lived and am not so much afraid of" the other world. "And she" threatens to scare me "? Well, well ... Dear NATO .. A flag in your hands!
    1. would
      would 25 March 2016 01: 56
      +1
      You should not be afraid, but it’s worth understanding that now you don’t fight with swords. A solid appearance does not provide incredible shooting skills for which special physical strength is not required, in order to fight in full equipment, special strength as such is not required at all. For the first, you need a good weapon (here it is not, but you should not underestimate it), and for the second, stupid stamina. So who knows, maybe this girl shoots better than me, better than you, better than most of us. With the underestimation of the enemy, many defeats began and the underestimation of the enemy caused many losses, it is worth remembering and appreciating the enemy, you must protect your soldiers and make sure that the victory gets as little as possible.
    2. puskarinkis
      puskarinkis 25 March 2016 05: 21
      0
      It is not the girl who should be afraid, but the situation when, in the conditions of the deepening crisis, more or less paid work can only be found in the army, which calls Russia an enemy. The people are brought to the handle, pushing them into power organizations, they strengthen "unity" with money and an oath, they point out the enemy because of whom all the suffering and everything - cannon fodder is ready! And there are already quite a few such "meat pens" around Russia ... Because this girl will suffer from lack of comfort and curse the day when ... the bullet from her "useless" rifle will not become less deadly.
  49. Walera
    Walera 24 March 2016 23: 55
    +1
    In my opinion they are going to fight only in words and on paper. Real hostilities are not there and never will be. Nobody needs all of this Baltic. Therefore, they do not care what kind of weapons they have, how they shoot, and whether they shoot at all ..... lol