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Minister of Defense of Ukraine Poltorak: 138 orders of past years interfered with the reform of the Ukrainian army

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The Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak stated that he conducted a thorough analysis of the factors that inhibit the implementation of reforms in the Ukrainian army. According to Mr. Poltorak, the main reasons for “slowing down reforms” are the presence of “orders of past years”. In order for the “braking” to stop, and the reform began to gain momentum, the Ukrainian minister canceled the 138 orders of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine as much as possible.


On your Facebook page Stepan Poltorak writes:
We are continuing reforms in the country's defense department. After analyzing the state of affairs and finding out the reasons that hinder the changes, (...) I decided to cancel the 138 orders of previous years, hindering reforms in the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. The heads of structural units of the Ministry, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the military authorities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were ordered to ensure the development of draft orders necessary for the normal functioning of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. All orders must meet the modern tasks of the troops, contribute to the improvement of the organizational and staff structure of forces, taking into account the objective possibility to fulfill the requirements contained in them.

Minister of Defense of Ukraine Poltorak: 138 orders of past years interfered with the reform of the Ukrainian army


Attention is drawn to the fact that neither on the ministerial page on Facebook, nor on the official website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine there is no data on which orders of the “past years” Mr. Poltorak canceled. Apparently, this is a "military secret."

The result is purely Maidan logic: old orders are canceled, there are no new orders even in the form of projects. And who believes that the reform is not going according to plan, let him be the first to throw a stone at the “commander” of Poltorak ...
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  1. Smoked
    Smoked 21 March 2016 15: 42
    +4
    Written by Putin?
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 21 March 2016 15: 47
      +20
      Think you're joking right now? No.

      It was just that. Poltorak Debaltsevsky as hinting

      1. Pravdarm
        Pravdarm 21 March 2016 15: 54
        +14
        let him be the first to throw a stone at the "commander" Poltorak ...
        Yes, here would be in the first thousand! There, their "Heroes ATO" (as well as their parents) dream of not only throwing a stone at it! The line from Donbass to Kiev could line up!
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        2. zennon
          zennon 21 March 2016 18: 18
          +9
          Quote: Pravdarm
          There, their "Heroes ATO" (as well as their parents) dream of not only throwing a stone at it!

          It's not true! These are all agents of the Kremlin propaganda! Heroes get 1000 hryvnias a day, and their life and health are insured for 1 million hryvnias. It’s Peter Pyotr Alekseevich himself (a kilo of halva in his mouth) promised. I saw it myself! How much I’m reviewing I can ... Tears choke! This is the attitude to the soldier’s brother! This is human, Peter Alekseevich! And you, Eugene, just to giggle, shame!
          1. bovig
            bovig 21 March 2016 20: 24
            +1
            Quote: zennon
            Quote: Pravdarm
            There, their "Heroes ATO" (as well as their parents) dream of not only throwing a stone at it!

            It's not true! These are all agents of the Kremlin propaganda! Heroes get 1000 hryvnias a day, and their life and health are insured for 1 million hryvnias. It’s Peter Pyotr Alekseevich himself (a kilo of halva in his mouth) promised. I saw it myself! How much I’m reviewing I can ... Tears choke! This is the attitude to the soldier’s brother! This is human, Peter Alekseevich! And you, Eugene, just to giggle, shame!


            Well, let’s go for a walk, indicating rock wines!)))) May 26! No one asked what year!))))) Here again, the Kremlin agents distorted everything ...
        3. Panikovsky
          Panikovsky 21 March 2016 19: 52
          +7
          uv.Pravdarm, and they have not only such an army, everything has turned into a similar chaos among the independent. they had everything, but they plundered and miscalculated, and let them not hope that Russia would build something for them again. in the EU-Panama Poles polish tremors, but the panes of the Spaniards collect tangerines (this is one of you, ukroligofrenov, more important). Zhenya, the video is just super.
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 21 March 2016 16: 02
        +13
        "Minister of Defense of Ukraine Poltorak: 138 orders of previous years interfered with the reform of the Ukrainian army"
        Well, as they say, a bad Faberge dancer interferes.
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 21 March 2016 16: 22
          +12
          Quote: Observer2014
          "Minister of Defense of Ukraine Poltorak: 138 orders of previous years interfered with the reform of the Ukrainian army"
          Well, as they say, a bad Faberge dancer interferes.

          There, not only Faberge is interfered with by Poltorak Debaltsevsky, but before that Geleta Illovaisky would have thrown a little mind at them, but as you know, you won’t buy a mind.
          1. Koshak
            Koshak 21 March 2016 21: 02
            +3
            Quote: 79807420129
            Quote: Observer2014
            "Minister of Defense of Ukraine Poltorak: 138 orders of previous years interfered with the reform of the Ukrainian army"
            Well, as they say, a bad Faberge dancer interferes.

            There, not only Faberge is interfered with by Poltorak Debaltsevsky, but before that Geleta Illovaisky would have thrown a little mind at them, but as you know, you won’t buy a mind.

            Hey, in / in Ukraine! How is it with the "peremogi parade" promised by Geletey in Sevastopol in 2015? The Crimeans have already prepared the boards for the tribune and for your coffins, but the Ukrainians still do not come. It's not good to cheat. People are waiting.
        2. gergi
          gergi 21 March 2016 16: 32
          +1
          According to habits, Faberge and a half are absent, oil in the head, too.
        3. demo
          demo 21 March 2016 16: 55
          +2
          Well no.
          He will not remove the cap from the handle.
          He was given one so that he couldn’t sign it without demand.
          It was recalled from the army youth:
          "Rubik's cubes were made for the officers of the Soviet army, monolithic cubes, and monolithic cubes for ensigns."

          Poltorak has a monolith pen.
          1. Senior manager
            Senior manager 21 March 2016 17: 54
            +1
            You just don’t know who the WRITER is.
        4. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 21 March 2016 22: 54
          +2
          Quote: Observer2014
          "Minister of Defense of Ukraine Poltorak: 138 orders of the past interfered with the reform of the Ukrainian army" Well, as they say, Faberge interferes with a bad dancer.

          This Styopa is a muddy spot on the history of the military school (OVKKU of the city of Ordzhonikidze) Graduation of 1987, was a senior student.
          The Komsomolets ran in dusty boots and with a greasy collar. And here you go - the Minister of Defense of Durkaina, all such an anti-Soviet fie-damn.
          It would be better if he drowned in Sunzha.
        5. Turkir
          Turkir 22 March 2016 01: 04
          +2
          Did Poltorak say about the West-East direction?
          If this is it, then everything is clear.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 22 March 2016 09: 21
            0
            Quote: Turkir
            Did Poltorak say about the West-East direction?

            No, he sent troops in the North-South direction)))
      3. Smoked
        Smoked 21 March 2016 16: 14
        0
        Have mercy, Ukraine, no jokes.
      4. Persistent
        Persistent 21 March 2016 17: 31
        +5
        Poland sent a note to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine in connection with the damage to the monument to Pope John Paul II in Drohobych, Lviv Region, reports Lifenews.

        According to the official tweet, "the Polish Embassy in Ukraine expresses deep concern over the damage to the monument to John Paul II in Drohobych - a note has been sent to the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry."

        A few days ago, vandals tried to saw a monument to the pope at the entrance to the church of St. Bartholomew in Drogobych. Presumably, they planned to hand over the sculpture for scrap.



        Pole reverse flowing !!!! Nefig was the demolitions of our soldiers !!! fool angry
        1. zennon
          zennon 21 March 2016 18: 24
          +5
          Quote: Persistent
          Poland sent a note to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine in connection with the damage to the monument to Pope John Paul II in Drohobych, Lviv region,

          Then the cover came out. They confused him with the monument to Lenin.
    2. cniza
      cniza 21 March 2016 15: 47
      +4
      The bad dancer knows what is stopping him ... the stars put pressure on his brain like that, where did they find such stars?
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 21 March 2016 15: 48
        +13
        send to order. Each of the stars weighs 5 grams, but rumor has it that a Debaltsevsky star weighs 6 grams, because in each of the stars there is a nest egg per gram of an incomprehensible substance.

        Rumor has it that Debaltsevsky reads the MO forum and sculpts minuses in grievances.

        But we won’t be upset about this swineherd, to each his own) To be offended by the ragul - it’s quite possible to get depressed

        1. vv3
          vv3 21 March 2016 16: 05
          +5
          Very true remark. Can you imagine if every general were a person, intelligent and active, educated both technically and scientifically advanced ... We would move forward with leaps and bounds ... But instead, a dull gray mass of vibrators ... What do they do, what do they do? Where is their active life position?
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    4. Finches
      Finches 21 March 2016 15: 56
      +14
      After reading this, I thought, not about the fool Poltorak, but about the fact that in our key positions there are often dol ..., "effective" top managers who are not guided by expediency in order to achieve a result for the good of the Motherland, but for the benefit of your wallet, how to save yourself on a bonus at the end of the year- "We have not just a lot of money, but a lot! "-the author of this phrase will give odds to all Poltorak Ukraine and the CIS countries combined! And if we add Serdyukov to it, then only God knows how Russia still lives and moves in spite of such figures ...!
      So we are not far away, so far, unfortunately, have left Ukraine, although we are trying hard ........
    5. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 21 March 2016 16: 02
      +3
      Quote: Smoked
      Written by Putin?

      I’ve thought about it here in Ukraine, the Ministry of Defense has grown up, I think these ministers in the Russian army are the most important for their knowledge and competence, they held a position no higher than any secondary service staff, like the commander of some kind of excavators, construction battalion! In Ukraine, these ignoramuses are the Ministry of Defense.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 21 March 2016 16: 05
        +4
        Minister of Defense of Ukraine Poltorak: 138 orders of past years interfered with the reform of the Ukrainian army

        Type: I am the coolest and correct Minister of Defense of Ukraine, and before me there were some ignoramuses.
      2. sunzhenets
        sunzhenets 21 March 2016 19: 22
        +1
        Let's be fair. Comrade Serdyukov was in this post recently. And he is also not a great military leader.
        1. Koshak
          Koshak 21 March 2016 21: 11
          +2
          Quote: Sunflower
          Let's be fair. Comrade Serdyukov was in this post recently. And he is also not a great military leader.

          Then it was fashionable to appoint not strategists and tacticians to such positions, but MANAGER. The main thing is that the grandmother was able to saw.
      3. BSrazvedka
        BSrazvedka 21 March 2016 21: 38
        0
        Quote: kod3001
        these ministers in the Russian army are the greatest for their knowledge and competence, they held a position no higher than what if there were no secondary servants, well, like the commander of some excavators, construction battalion!

        Let me disagree with you! For such a position in Russia, you must at least be a civil engineer. Personally familiar with a few and these are not very stupid people!
      4. wervolf
        wervolf 21 March 2016 22: 28
        +1
        You can't go to the "construction battalion", such fools dig with a marching step and roll a square one, but wear a round one;
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    7. siberalt
      siberalt 21 March 2016 16: 16
      +2
      No, well, it's somehow incomprehensible. Here either a liter or two, and a half like neither there nor here. winked And generally speaking. How can the "brake" itself define other brakes? belay Here the arrows on the tracks need to be changed, not the shoes removed. These guys are funny from the parallel world! laughing
    8. marlin1203
      marlin1203 21 March 2016 16: 31
      +4
      The boy said, the boy did! Now everything will fall into place, and the reform will get pissed off! It remains only to wait a little bit and look ...! From the side ... So, "smile and wave"! laughing
    9. vodolaz
      vodolaz 21 March 2016 17: 12
      +3
      But what a star on uniform, apparently for special merits)
      PS. But as it is now, everything will work out in the Armed Forces. The main thing is to let the upgraded Mosin rifle and hopak take into service)))
    10. aba
      aba 21 March 2016 20: 46
      +1
      Written by Putin?

      It will also turn out that 137 out of 138 were signed after February 2014 - this is too much!
      Or zrada ?! repeat
  2. APS
    APS 21 March 2016 15: 44
    +3
    And now the rule is one - there are no rules !!! smile
  3. svp67
    svp67 21 March 2016 15: 47
    +4
    I read about 138 "interfering" orders, and for some reason I immediately remember the dancer, who only 2 eggs always interfered with ...
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 21 March 2016 15: 55
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      I read about 138 "interfering" orders, and for some reason I immediately remember the dancer, who only 2 eggs always interfered with ...


      Not only, it’s still good to dance, poorly chosen shoes interfere.
  4. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 21 March 2016 15: 47
    +3
    Ukrainians need to cancel one more order - on assigning Stepan Poltorak the rank of "lieutenant"
  5. sir_obs
    sir_obs 21 March 2016 15: 48
    +3
    Bad dancer, good dad
    Here, apparently, and it did not work.
  6. Sevurallag
    Sevurallag 21 March 2016 15: 48
    +6
    canceled 138 orders of past years ...

    said one and a halfk signing the two thousandth for this year, the news is about nothing that listen to this wedding general.
  7. Yasha Gypsy
    Yasha Gypsy 21 March 2016 15: 48
    +1
    Something always disturbs a bad dancer)))
  8. Berber
    Berber 21 March 2016 15: 49
    +4
    In the period of the 90s. we had a similar situation. Nevertheless, there was no such idiocy.
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 March 2016 15: 51
    +2
    Yes, insanity grows stronger. Whatever the statement, do not pass by in the section, we will laugh together.
  10. FenH
    FenH 21 March 2016 15: 55
    +7
    The muzzle of our "Marshal Taburetkin" reminds, Not Batya identical case
    1. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 21 March 2016 16: 15
      +20
      Quote: FenH
      The muzzle of our "Marshal Taburetkin" reminds, Not identical brothers by a case

      Really very similar
      1. FenH
        FenH 21 March 2016 16: 37
        +6
        Quote: treble 72019
        Quote: FenH
        The muzzle of our "Marshal Taburetkin" reminds, Not identical brothers by a case

        Really very similar

        Now puzzle over, either Taburetkin in Rostec, or with a special task in Ukraine request
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 21 March 2016 17: 28
        +1
        They are brothers! bully Cheburator and Pinocchio, with such a number you can perform in the circus of the dussel. wink
      3. wervolf
        wervolf 24 March 2016 00: 43
        0
        According to Mr. "Poltorashka", it looks like the brothers are 138-egg
  11. upadeishev
    upadeishev 21 March 2016 15: 55
    +1
    Hamburg Rooster !!!!
  12. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 21 March 2016 15: 56
    +1
    The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine resembles a bad dancer who is disturbed by something ... Or are the old orders preventing the budget from being cut in a new way? In general, another joke from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.
  13. loginovich
    loginovich 21 March 2016 15: 56
    +4
    Laws, orders are not for modern Ukrainians. Is there really an order to steal? The lack of an order doesn’t interfere with stealing. Surely training on April 1 is a joke. A good boy knows how to count more than a hundred.
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 March 2016 15: 57
    +1
    And whoever believes that the reform is not going according to plan, let him be the first to throw a stone at the "commander" Poltorak ...

    When all head over heels in shit, who will throw a stone? This is a calculation. But only after all that has been created, who will be the first to hang himself?
  15. Mercenary
    Mercenary 21 March 2016 16: 03
    +2
    As a bad dancer, Galetei interferes with Poltarashka!
    Cancel all orders to disperse the army and will re-negotiate
  16. Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist 21 March 2016 16: 11
    +3
    A serious cap at the PalkovoTs, and shoulder straps are credited, the stars are probably half a kilo of gold ... ukroreikhspoltoraken-getman. Such a person cannot give idiotic orders and orders, he just got the wrong army, but he himself is very smart and strategically-tactically thinking. After all, I put everything on the shelves on Facebook and laid it out, because Facebook is the main battlefield with Russia. On the pages of "Facebook" Ukrainians, the entire Russian army has already been destroyed hundreds of times.
  17. flay
    flay 21 March 2016 16: 14
    +6
    Abaldet ... not people Do you understand?
    20 years before him, all the ministers of defense of Ukraine were "stools"
    He is the only one who STARTING TO THINK, ostensibly winked
    New songs about old wink
  18. RomanS
    RomanS 21 March 2016 16: 14
    +6
    Poltorak (a penny with a part), Ogryzkov .... Is there anything solid in this state entity? Or just a dismemberment?
  19. Vadim12
    Vadim12 21 March 2016 16: 15
    0
    Something always hinders a bad dancer, and Ukrainians must either Putin or something else hinder their struggle to the light. Poor guys.
  20. Eustace
    Eustace 21 March 2016 16: 22
    0
    You do not understand the basic meaning. Ukrainians just save on paper! lol
  21. Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 21 March 2016 16: 27
    +5
    // ... I made a decision to cancel 138 orders of previous years ... // And did the normal geographic concepts fall under these orders? So that "South-North" does not sound like idiocy anymore? belay request
  22. Abbra
    Abbra 21 March 2016 16: 31
    +1
    Clowns continue their spring tour ... What else can you say?
  23. vv3
    vv3 21 March 2016 16: 36
    +3
    Gentlemen, we have a pointless conversation. But on our website there are a lot of people with tremendous experience of life .. The topic of generals is generally very interesting ... 289 dietary supplements, Soviet times, headquarters in Lutsk, PriKVO, 14 VA Division commander Colonel Chava expects to be awarded the general rank ... I can’t say anything about him, neither bad nor good. He knows how to keep distance with subordinates, a little arrogant and a good pilot. From a military command family .. That's probably all .. During a training flight, he laid out the plane, suffered a little .. He was removed from his post and did not manage to get the general ... His deputy colonel should be transferred to ZabVO. They didn’t know how to get rid of him ... I didn’t know how to fly, collected cigarette butts, checked toilets and climbed soldiers' bedside tables and lockers .. complete ... They replaced the cancellation and appointed division commander. After some time, while taxiing, he was on an airplane before takeoff, defiantly circling the technicians who were in the allowed zone, hooked on the APA (mobile power unit), which was in the allowed zone. They hushed up the plane, supposedly restored, but it only numbered and flew up 2-3 times a year. ... Glory to the generals ... and there were a lot of them. And now what?
  24. Gunther
    Gunther 21 March 2016 16: 41
    0
    Quote: Poltorak
    ..... All orders must meet the modern tasks of the troops ......

    He formulates correctly, it remains to tell about the "modern tasks of the troops" :-)
  25. sounddoc
    sounddoc 21 March 2016 16: 49
    +6
    The new general form ukrovermahta))))))))))))
  26. Askiz
    Askiz 21 March 2016 16: 54
    +3
    And whoever believes that the reform is not going according to plan, let him be the first to throw a stone at the "commander" Poltorak ...
    I want to quit first))) well, or at least the 2nd wassat
  27. nstarinsky
    nstarinsky 21 March 2016 16: 57
    0
    A good reproach dancer is prevented by a huge number of eggs.
    1. Shuttle
      Shuttle 21 March 2016 17: 19
      +2
      Quote: nstarinsky
      A good reproach dancer is prevented by a huge number of eggs.

      138?
      O_o ...
  28. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 21 March 2016 17: 18
    +2
    Not everything can be undone, something needs to be invented in return.
    Sample order (instead of heaps of unnecessary ones that impede the development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine): In history books (especially military ones), immediately mess up the remaining few names and leave one.
    Then the general was reminded that he was not the main one. Hence immediately - a new order - that the two names remain on the tablets of history of the entire civilized world. Bad luck again - two surnames and physiognomy do not fit together. This is not a problem - there will be one and a half.
  29. Senior manager
    Senior manager 21 March 2016 18: 02
    +1
    Guys - all this is foam, it will leave, along with dolls at the head of power, well, they call it Moscow Region, for God's sake.
  30. atamankko
    atamankko 21 March 2016 18: 02
    +1
    It was necessary to be born with brains, and not fight with 138 previous orders.
  31. black
    black 21 March 2016 18: 02
    +1
    It seems the fall of 1996. The polygon is beyond Khabarovsk, we are waiting for the American delegation. We are waiting for the second week. The second week he trains at the same training places. At the place for throwing grenades from the trench, I already have fighters arguing over who will hit which target. And every evening the officers go on foot to the formation. You have to go far and on foot. There is no gasoline. 96 years old. Who served will understand. Every day, the construction makes happy with its visit the deputy commander of the KDVO, general-len. Garid, nicknamed Koridov. With a retinue. Tomorrow the foe will finally appear and we will sail home. To the wives, dumplings and the collective farm sauna on the wood. Goridov: "In general, everything is fine, but why didn't I see the paratroopers at the sports camp?" Some of the retinue: "Today they have ostentatious classes at the Volochaevsky town." Goridov: "So that tomorrow at 9 am, everyone hung on the crossbar."
  32. bannik
    bannik 21 March 2016 18: 05
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    "Minister of Defense of Ukraine Poltorak: 138 orders of previous years interfered with the reform of the Ukrainian army"
    Well, as they say, a bad Faberge dancer interferes.

    And it is right! 138 orders to cancel, develop and give 276 new orders! And the clouds will become steeper APU!
  33. Stinger
    Stinger 21 March 2016 18: 07
    +1
    It’s clear that the dancers are in the way. They have 138 orders, we also had 38 snipers + stools.
  34. potap6509
    potap6509 21 March 2016 18: 13
    +3
    Something always gets in the way with a shitty dancer, then the music is not the same, it’s the Faberge.
  35. dvg1959
    dvg1959 21 March 2016 18: 43
    +2
    "The genius commander" - such an impression arises after watching the footage about the state of the Ukrainian army.
    Its fighters refuse to participate in "ATO", and refuse not because it is impossible to kill civilians - it is a sin, but because they were not provided with normal living conditions and did not provide good food, uniforms and equipment, and also provided antediluvian equipment for solutions to their barbaric plans. This gang in military uniform has no right to call itself an army. The people who participate in this adventure are worthy of contempt.
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  37. KRIG55
    KRIG55 21 March 2016 20: 04
    +3
    The king knew what to do with such specialists ..
  38. bovig
    bovig 21 March 2016 20: 28
    +1
    Poltorak forgot to reduce the time zone and change the name ...))))) Or, is this the next step?))))
  39. Vasily V
    Vasily V 21 March 2016 20: 54
    +5
    Well, if now nothing interferes, then go ahead, that is, back, in general, to the north-south
  40. RUS33
    RUS33 21 March 2016 23: 12
    0
    Well, if the order was, then it must be executed.
    I don’t understand how you can undo what has already been done.
  41. AID.S
    AID.S 22 March 2016 00: 15
    +2
    138, past years,
    Orders interfered with live
    They should only be canceled,
    Everything will be adjusted right away!
    Debaltseve and Ilovaisk
    Forgotten without a strain
    And the soldier will spin again
    Dry foliage in breaks.
    And sweeps them to lay
    Wait for the crow in the craters
    From the office will fly
    For the funeral ritual.
    138, past years,
    Orders interfered with life,
    But they didn’t interfere with one, -
    To kill people.
  42. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 22 March 2016 03: 39
    +1
    They prevented me from tying and selling everything that my eyes saw !!! When there is no mind, they begin to look for the guilty, Serdyukovism.
  43. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 22 March 2016 05: 36
    +1
    Surprisingly similar to Taburetkina! And the form is so playful, with flowers. Only mugers are not enough.
  44. sgr291158
    sgr291158 22 March 2016 06: 40
    0
    First you reform your brains, unless of course you have them.
  45. Lelek
    Lelek 22 March 2016 09: 00
    +1
    (And whoever believes that the reform is not going according to plan, let him be the first to throw a stone at the "commander" Poltorak ...)

    I give it up. As you know, trousers get in the way for a bad dancer. The Ukrainian Poltorak is the Russian Serdyukov, the same "buy and sell", like all 4 previous ministers. This begs the fable of Krylov's grandfather about the quartet. bully
  46. nivander
    nivander 22 March 2016 09: 57
    +1
    centenarian by Ukrainian standards
  47. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 22 March 2016 18: 15
    0
    Great goes the battalion! good The third day is in the wrong direction ...