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The court found N. Savchenko guilty

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The Donetsk court of the Rostov region convicted Nadezhda Savchenko, a member of the Ukrainian “Aidar” gang, convicting her of the murder of Russian journalists Igor Kornelyuk and Anton Voloshin. The statement of the judge about this is as follows:
Savchenko committed a murder by prior agreement by a group of people for hate and enmity. The motive for the crimes committed by Savchenko was hatred towards the social group of residents of the Luhansk region, as well as Russian-speaking people in general.



A few hours before the verdict of the Donetsk court of the Rostov region, lawyer N. Savchenko Mark Feigin said that “the verdict will be accusatory, and the court will give a long time”.

The court found N. Savchenko guilty


Recall that the public prosecutor demands for Savchenko 23, a high security colony for committing a crime against citizens of the Russian Federation, committed in the Lugansk region, and for illegally crossing the border of the Russian Federation. According to humane Russian legislation, Savchenko cannot be sentenced to life imprisonment - the maximum term for women convicted of committing even the most serious crimes is 25 years imprisonment. About how long N. Savchenko will receive will be known soon (the deadline is March 22).

The US press, a state that detains foreign citizens in prisons, often without trial, seizing them in various countries around the world, called the decision of the Rostov region court a “Putin court.” In particular, such a turn has allowed itself the publication "The Washington Post". It is strange that this newspaper has not yet given a description of the fact of the existence of the American prisons of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, as well as other special prisons located (located) including in the territory of Eastern European countries (Poland, Lithuania, etc.)
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  1. Rostov Papa
    Rostov Papa 21 March 2016 12: 43
    +180
    The trial of Nadezhda Savchenko is only the first trial initiated by Russia over the participants in the Ukrainian punitive operation in the Donbass.
    About this in his blog writes Russian political analyst Sergei Markov.
    “The main reason for the political uproar over the Savchenko case is that this is the first case of a trial of the Ukrainian military for war crimes in the Donbass. Since there were many such war crimes, the trial of Savchenko is a precedent. And so they are trying to stop him. In order not to be afraid of the military APU commit crimes, kill civilians and journalists, ”the expert notes.
    “A public informational and political attack on Russia in the Savchenko case is aimed at breaking Russia's will to fight. Say, you have no right to judge those who kill you. You Russians can be killed with impunity. And Russia insists that everyone, even if they are citizens of other states, if they killed Russians, will suffer retaliation, ”Markov said.
    “Now, people who have not spoken a word in defense of the hundreds of political prisoners in Ukraine for Savchenko are now actively interceiving. They often sit in the cellars of the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs and neo-Nazi battalions under torture. Which did not say a word in defense of the hundreds of thousands of civilians in Donbass, who have been fired at by the Ukrainian Armed Forces for 2 years. It seems to me that those who are for Savchenko are not for humanism, but against humanism ....
    The support of representatives of our fifth column of the murderer and Nazi Savchenko is disgusting from a moral point of view and is a betrayal of democratic values ​​from a political point of view. Betrayal of Russia is simply a profession for them, ”the political scientist concluded.
    1. makst83
      makst83 21 March 2016 12: 45
      +86
      The guys will not be returned, but if it is 25 years old, then I will be satisfied with the verdict, like the majority of the thinking population of our country! And in vain, from neighboring countries and associations of countries - do not care!

      Py.Sy. Somehow senatus wrote - "to express their own sentences here, one more severe than the other to get plus signs and release their own hatred is somehow frivolous. And regret that she was not sent to Donbass too. The main force of punishment is in justice and publicity." Those who express their opinion regarding the verdict have every right to do so. And they are unlikely to count on the abundance of "plus signs", as they express their opinion, but it may not coincide with the opinion of others, which was proved by your comment on 12.03.2015/06.50/XNUMX XNUMX Moscow time
      1. The black
        The black 21 March 2016 12: 49
        +58
        and at this time, the mother of the heroine, demands the provision of a land plot in the Goloseevsky district of Kiev, for such people, just grab a piece fatter)
        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 21 March 2016 12: 55
          +25
          Quote: Black
          Heroine's mother, requires the provision of land
          Also covering ukrokhitrouchestvo with the words: "My daughter suffers for Ukraine at the hands of the invaders, in a foreign land! She is HEROY!"

          PS: "HER should be in jail. He will be. I said." - Gleb Zheglov.
          ("Meeting place can not be Changed!")
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 21 March 2016 12: 57
            +13
            It is urgent that Nadya should be elected premiere instead of Yatsenyuk. Well, or the president of Ukraine right away. laughing
            1. cniza
              cniza 21 March 2016 13: 11
              +8
              Quote: Thrall
              It is urgent that Nadya should be elected premiere instead of Yatsenyuk. Well, or the president of Ukraine right away. laughing


              Minister of Defense ... if she is handed over after she is convicted, they will not be afraid of her for a long time even more in Ukraine, they will make her a sacred sacrifice and blame Russia.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 21 March 2016 13: 22
                +46
                Savchenko is not just a war criminal - she is a murderer and a savage executioner of DPR and LPR prisoners of war. The hangman is actually crying for such executioners. She can’t even be called a man, not just a man or a woman.
                Here are the data from eyewitness accounts who did not enter the case now following Savchenko’s sentence. But someday they will remember this and Savchenko will be convicted again.
                Ex-mayor of Uzhgorod: Savchenko beat off the genitals and extinguished cigarettes in the prisoner's eye
                Ukrainian gunner Nadezhda Savchenko from the Aidar battalion is guilty of inhuman torture of prisoners, ex-mayor of Uzhgorod Sergey Ratushnyak said on his social network page.
                I personally spoke with the teacher and the priest, who miraculously survived after the savagery, torture and torture of the new "maidan" heroine Savchenko. Here are their words: “She (Savchenko) did not beat, she simply crippled and killed. Tied hand and foot, - beat the pipe, beat off the genitals, extinguished cigarettes in his eyes. Constantly yelling: “Let's sell it to the bodies, like those, or shoot them at * ep,” wrote Ratushnyak on his page on the social network.
                See - http://news2.ru/story/488756/
                1. scientist
                  scientist 21 March 2016 13: 43
                  +13
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Savchenko is not just a war criminal - she is a murderer and a savage executioner of DPR and LPR prisoners of war.

                  As soon as she gets into the zone, the prisoners themselves will lower them below the baseboard and she will look for a rope to strangle herself. Therefore, such geeks for 10 years need to be provided alone and complete information isolation.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 21 March 2016 13: 45
                    +16
                    Quote: scientist
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Savchenko is not just a war criminal - she is a murderer and a savage executioner of DPR and LPR prisoners of war.

                    As soon as she gets into the zone, the prisoners themselves will lower them below the baseboard and she will look for a rope to strangle herself. .

                    A finger is not touched by mk. Such prisoners are dead much more than the living.
                    1. scientist
                      scientist 21 March 2016 13: 53
                      +8
                      Quote: atalef
                      A finger is not touched by mk. Such prisoners are dead much more than the living.

                      That's it! If even Berezovsky and Nemtsov were able to make "victims" to discredit Russia, then making a victim from Savchenko in the colony is hundreds of times easier, and the noise will be no less. Every second prisoner is capable of slaughtering her for a relatively modest sum.
                      1. Weyland
                        Weyland 21 March 2016 15: 24
                        +14
                        Quote: scientist
                        then making a victim from Savchenko in the colony is hundreds of times easier, and there will be no less noise.


                        How many Raduev lived in custody, recall? And what, somehow did this noise of Russia hurt?
                      2. Weyland
                        Weyland 21 March 2016 15: 24
                        +2
                        Quote: scientist
                        then making a victim from Savchenko in the colony is hundreds of times easier, and there will be no less noise.


                        How many Raduev lived in custody, recall? And what, somehow did this noise of Russia hurt?
                      3. bannik
                        bannik 21 March 2016 20: 16
                        +8
                        Raduev was our, Russian, terrorist, and therefore not particularly blather.
                        And about this bastard: to support the rabble of the "volunteer" punitive battalion, they found "specialists" in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, ready to kill anyone. And the senior officer on the battery is also one of the "specialists", who knows how to use the corrections of the spotter and is ready to kill, kill and kill. And the fact that a tactical aviation navigator cannot be an artillery fire spotter is something in general. They are specially taught this.
                      4. Weyland
                        Weyland 21 March 2016 23: 30
                        +5
                        Quote: bannik
                        Raduev was our, Russian, terrorist, and therefore not particularly blather.


                        Raduev was them, Islamic , a terrorist, and about this "martyr for the faith", too, many who could shout - the same Al-Jazeera and other filthy scum - and our liberal too
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                  2. serezhasoldatow
                    serezhasoldatow 21 March 2016 18: 57
                    +2
                    Every first one is ready to do it for free.
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                3. RUSS
                  RUSS 21 March 2016 14: 43
                  +2
                  Quote: atalef
                  A finger is not touched by mk. Such prisoners are dead much more than the living.

                  Well, it depends on whom.
                4. unsinkable
                  unsinkable 22 March 2016 18: 28
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  A finger is not touched by mk. Such prisoners are dead much more than the living.

                  They will hurt, but not to death.
                5. Black_PR
                  Black_PR 23 March 2016 07: 45
                  0
                  Maybe the other way around?
              2. your1970
                your1970 21 March 2016 18: 40
                +2
                scientist
                You didn’t catch a set of her articles, at least 15 years in any situation, i.e. especially difficult ...
                The defendant has been in custody in the Russian Federation on charges of murder (part 2 Art. 105 of the Criminal Code) and attempted murder (Part 2 Art. 105 of the Criminal Code) since July 2014 ..

                Part 2 Article.105 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation -
                2. Murder: a) two or more persons; b) a person or his relatives in connection with the performance by this person of official activity or the fulfillment of a public debt; c) a minor or other person who is obviously helpless for the guilty person, as well as involving the abduction of a person; d) women who are obviously in a condition for the guilty
                pregnancy e) committed with extreme cruelty; e) committed in a generally dangerous manner; e.1) based on the motive of blood feud; g) committed by a group of persons, a group of persons by prior conspiracy or an organized group; h) for mercenary motives or for hire, as well as coupled with robbery, extortion or banditry; i) from hooligan motives; j) in order to conceal another crime or facilitate its commission, as well as involving rape or violent acts of a sexual nature; l) motivated by political, ideological, racial, national or religious hatred or enmity, or motivated by hatred or enmity towards any social group; l) in order to use the organs or tissues of the victim,
                punished by imprisonment for a period of eight to twenty years with restriction of liberty for a period of one year to two years, either life imprisonment or the death penalty.
              3. unsinkable
                unsinkable 22 March 2016 18: 27
                0
                Quote: scientist
                Such degenerates of 10 years need to be provided with isolation and complete information isolation.

                Do not.
              4. 30BIS
                30BIS 22 March 2016 20: 30
                +1
                What do you ! The main heroes of Ukraine will sit next to her to protect her innocence .. Let them sit in neighboring chambers .. Fuck them with their eyes and lowering them
          2. go21zd45few
            go21zd45few 23 March 2016 07: 40
            +1
            The sentence should be the death penalty. and execute the verdict in Donetsk publicly, as the Vlasovites were executed. Well, as for the United States hoteliers, let them comply with international law from the very beginning, and not grab citizens of other states, and do not make dubious judges. Whose cow would mumble, and yours would be silent
        2. Tersky
          Tersky 21 March 2016 22: 17
          +6
          Quote: Thrall
          We must urgently elect Nadia instead of Yatsenyuk.

          Wait a bit, after the verdict and the transfer of the "lady" in quilted jackets, her kichi comrades-in-arms will "elect" her, both as "prime minister" and "president", and without a secret ballot yes
          1. ochakow703
            ochakow703 22 March 2016 04: 35
            +3
            I remember that something similar was broadcast on VO during the landings of the little pieces and Vasilieva, and so what? We sat back and calmly left. So not everything is so simple in the West Coast, justice is a corrupt girl.
        3. Alex20042004
          Alex20042004 22 March 2016 18: 03
          +3
          Savchenko is the only deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine who will sit in its place! laughing

        4. Alex20042004
          Alex20042004 22 March 2016 18: 08
          +2
          Savchenko is the only deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine who will sit in its place.

          So much for Nadyukha - damn you!
      2. The black
        The black 21 March 2016 12: 58
        +9
        Well, as they say,
        "The apple does not rot away from the apple tree"
        . only the killer daughter was more fortunate. free hawk. free bunk. But the mother does not manage to cash in on the rotten glory of her daughter. According to the Pedaliks, her exploits only pull on the apartment in Bykanovka laughing
        1. Shuttle
          Shuttle 21 March 2016 15: 27
          +4
          Inspired by ...
          Quote: Black
          Well, as they say,
          "The apple does not rot away from the apple tree"
          . only the killer daughter was more fortunate. free hawk. free bunk.

          By the way, it may well happen that the heroini's former "colleagues" will envy her fate. After all, exactly the whole Russia will, though in the form of a penitentiary system, still take care of some kind, but about shelter and bread for every day, about heat, plumbing, drainage, electricity and basic safety for life in the next 25 years.
          Other Aidarites have no such protection and will not. So it is still unknown which of them was luckier - Nadya or the rest of the fascists ...
      3. 1976AG
        1976AG 21 March 2016 13: 33
        +10
        I won’t be surprised if the scenario of Tymoshenko appears soon, i.e. suddenly they start screaming that she is seriously ill (of course, she got the disease due to unbearable conditions of detention (one-room cell, bars on the windows and a view of the prison yard, and not the alpine meadows) and poor nutrition (there is no black caviar in the diet)). And the world will be outraged by the cruelty of Russia!
        1. 30BIS
          30BIS 22 March 2016 20: 32
          +1
          Definitely!
      4. 1rl141
        1rl141 21 March 2016 22: 44
        +2
        Quote: Pravdarm
        PS: "HER should be in jail. He will be. I said." - Gleb Zheglov.
        ("Meeting place can not be Changed!")


        Here in one neighboring funny country, the rental of another popular film is gaining momentum.
    2. Altona
      Altona 21 March 2016 13: 20
      +6
      Quote: Black
      and at this time, the mother of the heroine, demands the provision of a land plot in the Goloseevsky district of Kiev, for such people, just grab a piece fatter)

      -------------------
      In Kiev, many probably exhaled the air. Now they will sculpt "a prisoner of Putin's bloody ryzhima" in the image of Khodorkovsky with all the ensuing PR campaign in her support. By and large, they do not need Nadia in Kiev, and it is desirable that she be dead.
      1. The black
        The black 21 March 2016 13: 48
        +8
        ... Now they will sculpt "a prisoner of Putin's bloody ryzhim" in the image of Khodorkovsky with all the ensuing PR campaign in her support.
        I partly blame our media for this. In my opinion, you should not cover the process so widely. Why pay so much attention to this mentally retarded criminal scum? ... The less they talk about her, the faster they will forget about her .... Often, they remember Borrka Nemtsov? .... Well, I hope they won’t succeed with Khodorm - they won’t let go .. .
        1. serezhasoldatow
          serezhasoldatow 21 March 2016 18: 59
          +1
          On the contrary, it is necessary to cover more widely with all the details of her crimes, and not just for journalists.
          1. ochakow703
            ochakow703 22 March 2016 04: 45
            0
            You can’t even imagine what a huge number of people and little people want at all costs to get on the front pages of newspapers or in the first minutes of news release. However, we are creating a precedent.
        2. ochakow703
          ochakow703 22 March 2016 04: 42
          +2
          I totally agree. Often we inflate the problem ourselves and elevate the ratings of different bbl.y.d.k.o.v to an unprecedented height. And they are just bandits, thieves or killers. Is it worth it? For me it’s better to have a short article or a report that the sentence was carried out, no one was spattered with brains.
    3. max702
      max702 21 March 2016 13: 21
      +2
      Quote: Black
      and at this time, the mother of the heroine, demands the provision of a land plot in the Goloseevsky district of Kiev, for such people, just grab a piece fatter)

      Khokhlop ... Sir ..
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      Cheshire
      Cheshire 21 March 2016 13: 57
      0
      [quote at this time, the mother of the heroine, requires the provision of a land plot in the Goloseevsky district of Kiev]

      so she thought - execution, so she asks for land for the memorial. laughing
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  1. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 14: 26
    +2
    Quote: Cheshire
    Cheshire

    Your hands are growing from where you can’t insert a comment humanly. The whole page has flown because of you.
  • YLTHEN
    YLTHEN 23 March 2016 08: 25
    0
    Yes, what kind of people they are, they are hohlobydlo, nothing can fix them. And more and more often I remember the well-known rhyme: "We will never be brothers" ... Most likely the "poetess" was right.
  • sever.56
    sever.56 21 March 2016 12: 50
    +46
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/553/uqpo394.png

    Schedule of the "hunger strike" of Nadka Syavchenko for the day ...
    Developed by the "brilliant" lawyer Mark Figin (Figin because
    all his clients received a fig and a term, instead of an excuse),
    approved by Petunia Parashenko. wassat
    1. DDR
      DDR 21 March 2016 12: 58
      +12
      Quote: sever.56
      /topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/553/uqpo394.png

      hi Looking at such a schedule of "hunger strikes", the Armed Forces of Ukraine will begin a mass surrender!
      1. Altona
        Altona 21 March 2016 18: 27
        +1
        Quote: DDR
        Looking at such a schedule of "hunger strikes", the Armed Forces of Ukraine will begin a mass surrender!

        ---------------------
        This girl has a TV and a refrigerator in her cell. How can you physically and spiritually starve with these two devices in your cell? By the way, she considers food from food mixtures (roughly speaking, baby food) to be a "dry hunger strike", which naturally completely replace solid food, since they contain proteins, fats and vitamins. That is, Nadia was eating quite a full-fledged porridge, otherwise where did she get 69kg (!!) weight?
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 21 March 2016 13: 04
      +29
      Mosiychuk is indignant! wink
      1. The black
        The black 21 March 2016 13: 05
        +20
        Mosiychuk is indignant!
        Judging by his face, he EATS FOR NADIA SAVCHENKO wassat
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 March 2016 13: 13
          +13
          Quote: Black
          Mosiychuk is indignant!
          Judging by his face, he EATS FOR NADIA SAVCHENKO wassat


          It looks like his whole battalion.
        2. heccrbq8
          heccrbq8 21 March 2016 13: 17
          +11
          Judging by his muzzle, he ate Savchenko ..
        3. Corsair
          Corsair 22 March 2016 09: 42
          0
          Quote: Black
          Judging by his face, he EATS FOR NADIA SAVCHENKO

          wassat and her bra wears it!
      2. Simon
        Simon 21 March 2016 13: 33
        +3
        Well, the pig, the pants diverge, can’t fasten !!! laughing
        1. ver_
          ver_ 21 March 2016 14: 31
          +3
          .. yes good boar ..
      3. guzik007
        guzik007 21 March 2016 13: 47
        +4
        Mosiychuk is indignant!
        ------------------------------
        Already sisyandry puffing!
      4. Am
        Am 21 March 2016 23: 50
        0
        This is how much you need to eat, this is kapets in general ..
    3. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 22 March 2016 18: 15
      0
      Is this what she will rest at the expense of the state?
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 22 March 2016 18: 39
        +1
        Quote: Alex20042004
        will she rest at the expense of the state?

        Are you ready to swap places with her? Inside such establishments - were there ever a thread? The routine there - you know? Are you ready to live by it? And 22 years to live like that?

        My doubts to you, dear yes

        For me it’s so normal. Let her .. rest .. it does not cost much, she has a lot of time, by old age, if she survives, maybe she will understand that ..

        That's it.
  • PKK
    PKK 21 March 2016 12: 51
    +4
    While Savchenko was starving and waiting for a trial, her breasts magically grew, could you tell me a secret? I would share it with someone.
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 21 March 2016 12: 56
      +3
      Quote: PKK
      While Savchenko was starving and waiting for her to judge magically breasts grew, is it possible to find out a secret? I would share it with someone.


      To the gym, bench press.

      In the version for women - in our prisons (apparently already in pre-trial detention centers), prison doctors mastered breast augmentation for those who have a term of more than 10 years (so as not to be bored at the time of imprisonment)

      wassat



      In general, there is a road for her, they behave too arrogantly, they believe that "the entire civilized world" can put pressure on Russia and force something there.

      Can see clearly, after 10 years of sewing mittens




      1. ver_
        ver_ 21 March 2016 14: 37
        +2
        .. found the theme of the zoo, anachraon generally look at it - has long been known - there is no worse animal than a woman ..
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  • atalef
    atalef 21 March 2016 12: 59
    -4
    Donetsk court of Rostov region convicted a member of the Ukrainian gang "Aydar"

    Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?
    Wiki gives such info
    Later she took part in the fighting as a volunteer of the Aydar battalion [19] with the call sign Bullet [20], remaining an acting officer of the Armed Forces
    1. igor67
      igor67 21 March 2016 13: 15
      -7
      Quote: atalef
      Donetsk court of Rostov region convicted a member of the Ukrainian gang "Aydar"

      Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?
      Wiki gives such info
      Later she took part in the fighting as a volunteer of the Aydar battalion [19] with the call sign Bullet [20], remaining an acting officer of the Armed Forces
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      2. atalef
        atalef 21 March 2016 13: 29
        +1
        Quote: igor67
        Quote: atalef
        Donetsk court of Rostov region convicted a member of the Ukrainian gang "Aydar"

        Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?
        Wiki gives such info
        Later she took part in the fighting as a volunteer of the Aydar battalion [19] with the call sign Bullet [20], remaining an acting officer of the Armed Forces


        If she is a member of the active military service,
        International law establishes not only personal responsibility for war crimes, but also team responsibility. Article 86 I of the protocol to the Geneva Conventions of 1949 states that the commander is responsible for violations of the conventions by his subordinates if he knew about the possibility of committing crimes, but did not take the necessary measures to prevent them.

        The question is, will there be accusations against the commanders (specific) and the leadership of the APU?
        1. The black
          The black 21 March 2016 14: 39
          +7
          The question is, will there be accusations against the commanders (specific) and the leadership of the APU?
          DONETSK (Rostov region), March 21 - RIA Novosti. The Donetsk court of the Rostov region concluded that Sergei Melnichuk, who was the commander of the Ukrainian battalion "Aydar", was the organizer of the murder of the VGTRK journalists Igor Kornelyuk and Anton Voloshin in Donbass,
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 21 March 2016 13: 15
      +12
      Antonina Gerashchenko blows the gathering of all the liberals in defense of Nadya! laughing
      1. The black
        The black 21 March 2016 13: 26
        +4
        Antonina Gerashchenko blows the gathering of all the liberals in defense of Nadya! laughing
        Well, in the next two days, hamsters will voluptuously blame the regime for all sins. There is food for kament.
        And then over the past week or two no one remembered this lover of diets.
        Everyone was fucked.
        I had to look for other reasons - and even suck out reasons for exposing Putin from a plane crash. And here is such a gorgeous gift - shri in kamenty from the heart.
        But in the case of Nemtsov, we see that the memory of the hamsters is short-lived, and if they do not throw up information lines, then they will forget it instantly. Interestingly, they will speak a month after Savchenko will be seated on a bunk.

        If she is freed, it will be shikardos in general. She will probably surpass Sashko Bilogo with her antics in freedom - and how much he did to discredit young Ukrainian democracy - it will be difficult to surpass him. But Nadia can.
      2. lis-ik
        lis-ik 21 March 2016 14: 26
        +2
        Why didn’t he put a neck in his mouth, analogies unwittingly arise, by the way normal people don’t drink from their throats!
      3. GRES13
        GRES13 23 March 2016 01: 09
        0
        NOT HE IS PREPARING FOR GEYEUROPE! love
      4. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 23 March 2016 10: 10
        0
        Rather, trains / kneads the throat in between service hosts. The aunt in the background, with envy, froze with her mouth open.
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 21 March 2016 13: 23
      +5
      She went on vacation to Aydar to have fun
  • atalef
    atalef 21 March 2016 12: 59
    0
    Donetsk court of Rostov region convicted a member of the Ukrainian gang "Aydar"

    Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?
    Wiki gives such info
    Later she took part in the fighting as a volunteer of the Aydar battalion [19] with the call sign Bullet [20], remaining an acting officer of the Armed Forces
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    2. RUSS
      RUSS 21 March 2016 13: 11
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?

      I will assume that it doesn’t because Savchenko still calls himself a political prisoner, but even does not reach the status of a prisoner of war. Indeed, the Aidar battalion, which served at the time of Savchenko’s detention, was a voluntary gathering of looters and rapists - this was recognized even by Amnesty International, an organization that was not even noticed in love for Russia. "Hero", who on that day, "following the order," led the Ukrainian artillery to the checkpoint through which civilians were leaving the combat zone. She could not know this, she saw it. The fact of shelling of civilians was recorded on the camera of the surviving VGTRK operator Viktor Denisov. And this is a war crime. But Savchenko had his own rules of warfare, not falling under international conventions. And not amenable to understanding.
      1. atalef
        atalef 21 March 2016 13: 56
        -1
        Quote: RUSS
        I will assume that no, because Savchenko still calls himself a political prisoner, but even does not reach the status of a prisoner of war

        Ukrainian pilot Nadezhda Savchenko, accused of involvement in the murder of two Russian journalists and detained in Russia, sent a statement to the head of the Investigative Committee of Russia, Alexander Bastrykin, to recognize her as a prisoner of war, Russian news agencies reported citing lawyer Mark Feigin.

        On Friday, December 12, the lawyer of the accused Savchenko said: “We are appealing to the leadership of the Investigative Committee of Russia to suspend the criminal case against Savchenko due to her status as a prisoner of war. Today Nadezhda wrote a statement addressed to Alexander Bastrykin, in which she asks to suspend all investigative actions against her. before determining its status. "

        Quote: RUSS
        . After all, the Aidar battalion, which served at the time of Savchenko’s detention, was a voluntary gathering of looters and rapists - this was acknowledged by the international organization Amnesty Internationa, which was not even noticed in love for Russia.

        He does not play roles, let alone referring to Amnesty Internationa - is silly.
        The question can be only one - whether she was in active service or not.
        Quote: RUSS
        "Hero", who that day, "following the order", guided Ukrainian artillery to the checkpoint

        Quite a combat mission
        Quote: RUSS
        through which civilians left the battle zone


        Were there still dead? I'm just not up to date
        Quote: RUSS
        . The fact of shelling of civilians was recorded on the camera of the surviving VGTRK operator Viktor Denisov. And this is a war crime.

        I agree, this is a crime (deliberate shelling of civilians) - so the question is, were there any more victims?
        Quote: RUSS
        But Savchenko had his own rules of warfare, not falling under international conventions. And not amenable to understanding.

        It’s better not to mention international conventions of the shopping mall, they judge it not on the basis of violations of the rules of warfare and war crimes, but as intentional murder and not legitimate suppression of the border - what do you think, why?
        1. andj61
          andj61 21 March 2016 14: 43
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          The question can be only one - whether she was in active service or not.

          Hello Alexander! hi The question here is not whether she was in military service or not, but whether she committed crimes against civilians or not. The "Eagles" in Nuremberg were partly in military service, partly not, but this did not prevent them from being convicted of crimes. By the way, the execution of a criminal order is also a crime - it also started from there. Savchenko was in military service, but at that time she was on vacation. And on vacation she worked part-time in "Aydar", which at that time did not have an official status - for example, an armed gang under a Ukrainian roof. DPR-sheep could recognize her as a prisoner of war. and Russia is not at war with Ukraine yet.
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: RUSS
          "Hero", who that day, "following the order", guided Ukrainian artillery to the checkpoint
          Quite a combat mission

          They shot precisely at the journalists who filmed the exit of the civilian population from the zone of fire. Well, she was a spotter of fire.
          Quote: atalef
          Were there still dead? I'm just not up to date

          There were no more dead, as I recall. At the same time, some kind of woman was injured at the same time as our journalists. But they aimed precisely at the film crew.
          Quote: atalef
          they judge her not on the basis of violations of the rules of warfare and war crimes, but as intentional murder and not lawfully suppressing the border - what do you think, why?

          Precisely because otherwise it was necessary to bring to justice not only the leadership of "Aydar", but also those who gave them the order. And such a process is due to the fact that in Ukraine this particular regime is impossible. But this does not at all prevent to bring to justice one of the accomplices in the crime. Israel often does the same.
          1. atalef
            atalef 21 March 2016 15: 12
            -3
            Hi Andrew

            Quote: andj61
            Here the question is not whether she was in military service or not, but whether she committed crimes against peaceful people or not. "

            It has a huge one.
            military personnel have not only a separate status, but also a completely separate jurisprudence. military personnel decision is influenced by a huge number of factors, such as the combat situation, orders of commanders, etc. etc.
            Quote: andj61
            The "Eagles" in Nuremberg were partly in military service, partly not, but this did not prevent them from being convicted of crimes.


            Not everyone, and many, evaded responsibility precisely because they were military personnel and carried out the order.
            Quote: andj61
            Savchenko was in military service, but at that time was on vacation

            This would be legitimate if the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine declared that it was not responsible for it. But they do not talk about it, but declare precisely that she YES was in military service and performed her duties
            Quote: andj61
            They shot precisely at the journalists who filmed the exit of the civilian population from the zone of fire. Well, she was a spotter of fire.

            High-precision ukrovsky weapon? Again, I’m not saying that so (maybe I don’t know 0, but if the civilians didn’t die anymore, but only journalists (during the shelling of the checkpoint), then excuse me, but not accredited journalists (who are in the territory are not legal) and those present in the location are not legitimate armed groups - do not fit the status --- civilians ---- excuse me for the harsh truth of life.
            Quote: andj61
            There were no more dead, as I recall. At the same time, some kind of woman was injured at the same time as our journalists. But they aimed precisely at the film crew.

            Artillery from closed positions (maybe a spotter was needed) - just sniper accuracy.
            Quote: andj61
            Precisely because otherwise it was necessary to bring to justice not only the leadership of "Aydar", but also those who gave them the order.


            And what is the problem? Accuse the APU and Aydar as well?
            Maybe the problem is the status of a prisoner of war with all the rights of a soldier arising from this, including the Red Cross?
            Or how to judge a prisoner of war in a country with which there is officially no war?
            Quote: andj61
            And such a process, in view of the fact that in Ukraine this particular regime is impossible

            Of course, the process of vacationers of the RF Armed Forces who fought in Ukraine and, as I understand it, shot, and did not hand out buns to children and women, is impossible in Russia.
            Quote: andj61
            But this does not prevent the prosecution of one of the accomplices of the crime. Israel often does the same.

            For example ?
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 21 March 2016 15: 47
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              many escaped responsibility precisely because they were military personnel and complied with the order.


              In Nuremberg - possible. If Savchenko was tried in Nuremberg, perhaps they would also be acquitted.
              Eichmann also stated that he was carrying out the order. But he was not tried in Nuremberg. And Savchenko is not judged in Nuremberg ... smile
            2. Weyland
              Weyland 21 March 2016 15: 47
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              many escaped responsibility precisely because they were military personnel and complied with the order.


              In Nuremberg - possible. If Savchenko was tried in Nuremberg, perhaps they would also be acquitted.
              Eichmann also stated that he was carrying out the order. But he was not tried in Nuremberg. And Savchenko is not judged in Nuremberg ... smile
              1. atalef
                atalef 21 March 2016 16: 36
                -3
                [quote = Weyland] [quote = atalef] many evaded responsibility precisely because they were military personnel and carried out the order. [/ quote]

                In Nuremberg - possible. If Savchenko was tried in Nuremberg, perhaps they would also be acquitted.
                Eichmann also stated that he was carrying out the order. But he was not tried in Nuremberg. And Savchenko is not judged in Nuremberg ... smile[/
                Eichmann was not judged in Nuremberg because he managed to escape if he had been caught during the Second World War
                1. Weyland
                  Weyland 21 March 2016 20: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Eichmann was not judged in Nuremberg because he managed to escape if he had been caught during the Second World War


                  You know better, according to whose scenario this process was going on - it is well known. Like the fact that Streicher shouted after the announcement of the verdict. You better explain to me (justifiably): Ribbentrop and Jodl for what?
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            3. would
              would 21 March 2016 18: 21
              +2
              but non-accredited journalists (who are not legally located in the territory) and those present in the location of non-legitimate armed groups - do not fit the status --- civilians ---- excuse me for the harsh truth of life.


              Since we are talking about the legal side of the issue, then I wonder what kind of convention does this require non-combatants to accredit? I do not remember such conventions. Additional Protocol 1, Article 79 does not require anything like this and suggests that journalists are considered civilians.
              1. CONTROL
                CONTROL 22 March 2016 07: 14
                0
                Quote: rait
                Since we are talking about the legal side of the issue, then I wonder what kind of convention does this require non-combatants to accredit? I do not remember such conventions. Additional Protocol 1, Article 79 does not require anything like this and suggests that journalists are considered civilians.

                In the same way, they turned into "non-combatants" the entire Bandera s-v = o.loch, which after the 45th "hid" in Canada, Australia, Argentina ...
                And they became "non-combatants" precisely by the decisions of the Nuremberg Tribunal!
            4. Kombrig
              Kombrig 21 March 2016 22: 16
              0
              Not convenient, but fair, your words are not without logic ...
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        3. RUSS
          RUSS 21 March 2016 14: 51
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          He does not play roles, let alone referring to Amnesty Internationa - it’s silly. There can only be one question - whether she was in active service or not.

          Just in this case, it’s not stupid, because if Amnesty Internationa recognized "Aydar" as a bandit formation, then in fact everything is much worse with Aydar.
          Quote: atalef
          Hero ", who on that day," following the order ", guided Ukrainian artillery to the checkpoint. It’s a completely combat mission

          The task is military, but the performer may not be military at least acting.
          Quote: atalef
          But how deliberate murder and not legitimate suppression of the border - what do you think, why?

          It’s hard for me to judge by intentional murder, but the fact that they allegedly took her as a refugee at the border is hard to believe, most likely the militias in the trunk brought and handed over to our specialists ....
          1. atalef
            atalef 21 March 2016 16: 43
            0
            Quote: RUSS
            how if Amnesty Internationa recognized "Aydar" as a bandit formation

            My advice to you, do not refer to Amnesty International since you are referring to it, then be prepared to accept all other conclusions of this biased and political organization.
            Naberita Amnesty Internationa blames the armed forces of the Russian Federation or simply the Russian Federation and ... you just get fucked up.
            Once again, I do not whitewash Aydar, just referring to the wrong
            Quote: RUSS
            The task is military, but the performer may not be military at least acting

            Of course, Hezbollah accused the vulture flying into Lebanon of the fact that he was an Israeli spy, but this is a completely different case.
            Savchenko says that she is a soldier, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is the same. What is there to invent?
            Quote: RUSS
            rather, the militia in the trunk brought and handed over to our specialists.

            And of course this gives the right to judge her for illegally crossing the border.
            laughing
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 21 March 2016 19: 52
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              My advice to you, do not refer to Amnesty International, since you are referring to it.

              I know what kind of office it is and I know others as an example of Human Rights Watch, they have a "one-sided game", and in fact they are CIA agencies.
              Quote: atalef
              Savchenko says that she is a soldier, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is the same. What is there to invent?

              She is no longer a soldier, she is an action movie of a private battalion.
              Quote: atalef
              And of course this gives the right to judge her for illegally crossing the border.

              She is not judged for crossing the border.
          2. CONTROL
            CONTROL 22 March 2016 07: 23
            0
            Quote: RUSS
            but the fact that she was allegedly taken as a refugee at the border is hard to believe, most likely the militia in the trunk brought and handed over to our specialists ....

            Illegal border crossing - yes!
            The militias only gave a "tip-off" - "fire adjustment", hmm-hmm ... And she was caught by the traffic police, who had "bird rights" to arrest her (her documents seemed to be clean, all the same - a lady, though and it is doubtful ... a refugee again ...); Well, and - a short haircut, "non-ladies" clothes, and most importantly - shoes !, and finally - "tip-off" from the DPR militia, and rumors about her - in the form of descriptions of "feats with prisoners" - were already circulating back then ... and handed it over to those who are supposed to deal with "these" - the FSB!
            Hence the whole turbidity of history with its detention on the territory of the Russian Federation ...
            1. CONTROL
              CONTROL 22 March 2016 07: 47
              +1
              Among other things: she is, yes, she is mentally normal ... according to the conclusions of prison psychiatrists ... But - a normal person, looking at her (at least from those videos posted on the net) will not doubt her "deviant" psyche (this is how American psychiatrists now define the so-called sociopaths); yes, and sexual deviations are latent ... Probably, it affects physiology, there are external signs ...
        4. Weyland
          Weyland 21 March 2016 15: 44
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          The question can be only one - whether she was in active service or not.


          Interestingly, if Adolf Eichmann were not in active service, would this affect his sentence?
          By the way, Julius Streicher, I remember, did not kill a single Jew or even cripple him. Sentence to remind?
          1. atalef
            atalef 21 March 2016 16: 52
            -6
            Quote: Weyland
            Interestingly, if Adolf Eichmann were not in active service, would this affect his sentence?

            You don’t understand one thing, the criminal law in relation to military personnel is much milder (I would say) more specific, since a military man obeys the charter. oath and orders. The civilian does not have such obligations and he is responsible for himself.
            Therefore, military personnel are captured with all his rights under the Geneva Convention, and participants in illegal armed groups and partisans are tried by a criminal court.
            Quote: Weyland
            By the way, Julius Streicher, I remember, did not kill a single Jew or even cripple him. Sentence to remind?

            Himler and Hitler - the same, but they gave orders. I hope you understand this word.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 21 March 2016 19: 54
              0
              Quote: atalef
              You don’t understand one thing, the criminal law in relation to military personnel is much milder (I would say) more specific, since a military man obeys the charter. oath and orders. The civilian does not have such obligations and he is responsible for himself.

              That is, if a soldier kills for example a civilian, should he be judged as a prisoner of war?
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            3. Weyland
              Weyland 21 March 2016 21: 14
              +3
              Quote: atalef
              a soldier is subject to the charter. oath and orders. The civilian does not have such obligations and he is responsible for himself. Therefore, the military are captured with all his rights under the Geneva Convention, and participants in illegal armed groups and partisans are tried in a criminal court.


              1) It is unlikely that she will be able to prove that when adjusting the fire she was ordered to give a tip to civilians
              2) And she can be judged precisely as a participant in the illegal armed group "Aydar" ...
            4. Weyland
              Weyland 21 March 2016 21: 23
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: Weyland By the way, Julius Streicher, I remember that not a single Jew was killed or even crippled. Sentence to remind?

              Himler and Hitler - the same, but they gave orders


              I agree - but Streicher did not give any orders! I agree that he was a bastard rare, but the precedent with the execution for words alone is very bad! You could have rolled a lifelong one, like Hess - but you had to have 10 hanged ones on Purim ... By the way, you didn’t answer about Ribbentrop and Jodle - there is nothing to say, as I understand it?
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        5. Weyland
          Weyland 21 March 2016 15: 44
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          The question can be only one - whether she was in active service or not.


          Interestingly, if Adolf Eichmann were not in active service, would this affect his sentence?
          By the way, Julius Streicher, I remember, did not kill a single Jew or even cripple him. Sentence to remind?
      2. Victorio
        Victorio 22 March 2016 19: 24
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: atalef
        Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?

        I will assume that it doesn’t because Savchenko still calls himself a political prisoner, but even does not reach the status of a prisoner of war. Indeed, the Aidar battalion, which served at the time of Savchenko’s detention, was a voluntary gathering of looters and rapists - this was recognized even by Amnesty International, an organization that was not even noticed in love for Russia. "Hero", who on that day, "following the order," led the Ukrainian artillery to the checkpoint through which civilians were leaving the combat zone. She could not know this, she saw it. The fact of shelling of civilians was recorded on the camera of the surviving VGTRK operator Viktor Denisov. And this is a war crime. But Savchenko had his own rules of warfare, not falling under international conventions. And not amenable to understanding.

        ===
        There was information in the press that, being on vacation, she was attached to the National Battalion
    3. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2016 13: 16
      +5
      And who knows, who the president was, where the state was, and how the APU was governed.
      Savchenko is neither a woman, nor a man, nor a pilot, nor a soldier.
      It can be said for sure that a sectarian, an adventurer, a sadist and, probably, a masochist.
      It is sad to see how abominable a human being in uniform can go.
    4. igor67
      igor67 21 March 2016 13: 17
      -3
      Quote: atalef
      Donetsk court of Rostov region convicted a member of the Ukrainian gang "Aydar"

      Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?
      Wiki gives such info
      Later she took part in the fighting as a volunteer of the Aydar battalion [19] with the call sign Bullet [20], remaining an acting officer of the Armed Forces

      In the Ukrainian media they say that because of this criticism of the Kiev authorities, they were not in a hurry to release her,
    5. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 21 March 2016 15: 28
      +3
      Quote: atalef
      Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?
      Wiki gives such info

      And no one really knows. At first there was a version that while on vacation she rushed to "Aydar" as a volunteer. yes, it was. And then they began to say that they had already quit.
      I think that she was simply fired retroactively when she got caught, and ours could not prove it. Therefore, they are judged as an ordinary criminal.
      1. atalef
        atalef 21 March 2016 16: 53
        -2
        Quote: Observer 33
        I think that she was simply fired retroactively when she got caught, and ours couldn’t prove it.

        I did not understand, and what to prove, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine officially recognizes her as a military man.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 21 March 2016 19: 57
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          I did not understand, and what to prove, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine officially recognizes her as a military man.

          It recognizes a lot of things, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine recognizes the presence of the Russian army in the Donbass.
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  • Yasha Gypsy
    Yasha Gypsy 21 March 2016 16: 30
    +2
    I agree, once I have done it, I must answer in full! And all these squeals of liberals and Westernizers - on the drum: "The dog barks, and the caravan goes"
  • skrabplus.ru
    skrabplus.ru 22 March 2016 14: 06
    +2
    it’s a pity that 25 years is the maximum, Americans would give 200 years for each journalist and 200 for crossing the border ... 400 it turns out, they would argue for a long time: knock off 10-15 years or not !!!
  • oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 21 March 2016 12: 45
    +3
    The verdict was passed. Now "human rights defenders" will scream with renewed vigor and undercover bargaining will take place.
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    2. PKK
      PKK 21 March 2016 12: 54
      +2
      Savchenko’s neck has also grown, which means he can swallow a longer one. This is welcome.
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      2. RUSS
        RUSS 21 March 2016 15: 20
        +6
        Quote: PKK
        The verdict is handed down.

        Savchenko's future "colleagues"
    3. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 21 March 2016 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Sentence handed down

      It’s good and let it sit!
      But what kind of dress is she wearing in the courtroom? What robe was not found in the pre-trial detention center?
      She’s before the court, you can say, before the announcement of the verdict,
      guaranteed to know what should sit down!
      In "striped" her, with a number and shave bald!
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    5. Simon
      Simon 21 March 2016 13: 36
      +1
      They howl, howl, and then they will forget! And we do not care about such "human rights activists".
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  • The black
    The black 21 March 2016 12: 48
    +5
    “Savchenko is now actively interceded by people who for two years have not said a word in defense of those hundreds of political prisoners who are sitting in Ukraine.
    That's for sure. The court session is not over yet, but our tolerasts and shit-gorats go, but they have already begun to squeeze out of the tube
  • Now we are free
    Now we are free 21 March 2016 12: 49
    +12
    Tomorrow we will find out how much they gave to the "First Swallow" ... And about the whimpering of the United States, the article correctly says -Now "The most democratic state in the world" can be trolled -Do not you like the conviction of Savchenko in Russia? G ... oh question! Give journalists from the world's media access to Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib ... Can't you? Well then stick your tongue at Obama in ... and don't teach us how to live.

    P.S. I hope that the rest of the Heroes of the new state - "Schenevmerla" will follow "Nadyusha".
    "HEROY" - SHOULD SIT IN PRISON.
    1. Rostov Papa
      Rostov Papa 21 March 2016 12: 57
      +3
      P.S. Hopefully the rest of the Heroes of the new state of Shchenevmerl will follow "Nadyusha".
      Let them come to the hospitable city of Rostov, here they are waiting impatiently. Long-term accommodation in cells overlooking the Don + free three meals a day is provided.
      Wellcome !!!
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 21 March 2016 13: 06
        +2
        Quote: Now we are free
        Tomorrow we will find out how much they gave to the "First Swallow" ... And about the whimpering of the United States, the article correctly says -Now "The most democratic state in the world" can be trolled -Do not you like the conviction of Savchenko in Russia? G ... oh question! Give journalists from the world's media access to Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib ... Can't you? Well then stick your tongue at Obama in ... and don't teach us how to live.

        P.S. I hope that the rest of the Heroes of the new state - "Schenevmerla" will follow "Nadyusha".
        "HEROY" - SHOULD SIT IN PRISON.


        Right, a good click on the nose to teach lovers to live

        Heroes will someday begin to realize that they are just visual aids for training and laboratory experiments conducted by serious researchers.

        Mice and rats for laboratory assistants (this heroine can most likely be attributed to large rodents)

        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 21 March 2016 13: 08
          +3
          If she killed US journalists, they would instantly give her an electric seat! Or death would have been injected into a vein! But soon the first! They love cruel revenge for killing their own!
      2. Felix
        Felix 21 March 2016 13: 12
        +3
        Quote: Rostov Dad
        P.S. Hopefully the rest of the Heroes of the new state of Shchenevmerl will follow "Nadyusha".
        Let them come to the hospitable city of Rostov, here they are waiting impatiently. Long-term accommodation in cells overlooking the Don + free three meals a day is provided.
        Wellcome !!!

        No need to invite, it may happen that in Ukraine they start hanging Svidomo on poles - so they rush to Russia to sit in a cell for about 20 years ... At our expense.
        Well, since such a conversation has come, it’s better for us, in the Far East and in Transbaikalia - here even the climate will contribute to the correction laughing
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  • 79807420129
    79807420129 21 March 2016 12: 51
    +11
    Quote: Rostov Dad
    “A public informational and political attack on Russia in the Savchenko case is aimed at breaking Russia's will to fight. Say, you have no right to judge those who kill you. You Russians can be killed with impunity.

    This attack has been going on for a long time, only with the hands of a hunchbacked and drunk, and then they themselves got their dirty hands, we will see what sentence this whore will be pronounced. It is a pity that the death penalty has been canceled, and we still have to feed this full-time.
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 21 March 2016 13: 23
      +1
      If they give a quarter, let’s get rid of her.
  • Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 21 March 2016 12: 58
    +6
    Quote: Rostov Dad
    The trial of Nadezhda Savchenko is only the first trial initiated by Russia over the participants in the Ukrainian punitive operation in the Donbass
    I will not reveal great secrets if I say that all refugees from the ATO regions are questioned by employees of the IC of Russia. And all the facts of the crimes of the current Kiev regime are recorded and recorded. Until better times that will surely come. And then each of the criminals will stand trial and get what he deserves.
    1. ydjin
      ydjin 21 March 2016 13: 22
      +3
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      Quote: Rostov Dad
      The trial of Nadezhda Savchenko is only the first trial initiated by Russia over the participants in the Ukrainian punitive operation in the Donbass
      I will not reveal great secrets if I say that all refugees from the ATO regions are questioned by employees of the IC of Russia. And all the facts of the crimes of the current Kiev regime are recorded and recorded. Until better times that will surely come. And then each of the criminals will stand trial and get what he deserves.

      Your words, but to God’s ears! I would like to believe that no one and nothing is forgotten ...
      1. Rostov Papa
        Rostov Papa 21 March 2016 13: 51
        +2
        I would like to believe that no one and nothing is forgotten
        Gather. The process is of course long and laborious, and the results will not be soon. Documents on the war crimes of Georgia were transferred to The Hague not so long ago. We will be patient with comrades.
  • Giant thought
    Giant thought 21 March 2016 13: 02
    +4
    It is advisable to give her as much as possible so that the rest of the Ukrainian fascists think about it.
  • ArhipenkoAndrey
    ArhipenkoAndrey 21 March 2016 13: 03
    +2
    But doesn’t it seem to you that democracy is precisely what Svchenko serves for spreading, because it’s not for nothing that the luminaries of this very democracy have stood up for it as a united front, and they themselves are doing the same scam all over the world, it’s time to recognize the word DEMOCRACY as an expletive ( democracy is the power of the demos over free citizens and slaves).
  • siberalt
    siberalt 21 March 2016 13: 11
    +2
    Why run ahead of the locomotive and reprint something that is not entirely true ("the court found guilty"). The court will announce the verdict until March 22. As a last resort, until late tonight. The verdict is contained in the operative (final part) after the words "the court sentenced:". This is when the court establishes guilt for specific crimes and assigns a measure of punishment. hi From "admit" and "sentenced" the most part is the assessment of the evidence in the aggregate and the circumstances mitigating and aggravating the responsibility of the defendant. So let's cross our fingers and wait for the verdict.
  • OlegV
    OlegV 21 March 2016 15: 00
    +9
    No one was going to let her go .... I must answer in all severity of Russian laws.
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  • gergi
    gergi 21 March 2016 16: 56
    +2
    She was not a soldier at the time of the crime. Aydar, where she was engaged in obscenities, was not a military unit. Just a gangster from the Aidar gang, that's all. There is no need to make a prisoner of war from this sadist and killer by vocation. And do not confuse war crimes with ordinary banditry.
    1. atalef
      atalef 21 March 2016 17: 37
      -5
      Quote: gergi
      She was not a soldier at the time of the crime.

      Was. Or the official statement of Savchenko and the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is not enough for you?
      Quote: gergi
      Prisoner of war from this sadist and killer by vocation is not necessary

      You did not work in kukryniksy?
      Quote: gergi
      And do not confuse war crimes with ordinary banditry.

      Arguments, sir? hi
      1. gergi
        gergi 21 March 2016 23: 41
        +1
        I don’t like lying with Jews. It is impossible to cross these masters of colloquial genre. What is your argument? Welcome to the anti-Semitic Ukraine, there you can, maybe you get something like the same creatures as this nadia.
  • kotik
    kotik 22 March 2016 14: 54
    +2
    This court must be made permanent, as opposed to the Hague. What would the urkrovoyak postpone in his head that retaliation can be quick, we can say - the courthouse is almost visible from the border of the ruin. The Hague is far away and they will be judged there, or they won’t be judged for the crimes committed, the question ... And here again, and you are already on the bunk. Something like this.
  • crumb
    crumb 23 March 2016 09: 57
    0
    Lawyers for Nadezhda Savchenko believe that she will not serve a real term of imprisonment, since the Russian authorities will be forced to release him.
    HIS - not her namely HIS
  • The black
    The black 21 March 2016 12: 44
    +8
    JUST !!! It's time to get used to the Ukrainian fascists to get what they deserve.
  • vladimirw
    vladimirw 21 March 2016 12: 44
    +6
    And in no case do not change for anyone!
    1. nrex
      nrex 21 March 2016 12: 54
      +2
      Change one at all. At least let it come in handy. Let's see how they value it. Let this rascal serve as freedom for everyone else. But they won’t change !!! (((
      1. Pravdarm
        Pravdarm 21 March 2016 13: 15
        +2
        What are you !? They don't fucking need her! It is even beneficial for them to be planted here! In prison, she will be a symbol: "Glory to Heroes!" And there it is dangerous, because it can really become another symbol - Against the current government! And collect all the deaths under this banner!
    2. bronik
      bronik 21 March 2016 12: 55
      +5
      Let him declare at the hunger strike zone .. He likes it wet, he likes it dry.
  • Engineer
    Engineer 21 March 2016 12: 44
    -6
    And what period was given? Is that secret information so people don’t resent such a modest punishment?
    1. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 21 March 2016 12: 54
      +2
      The sentence has not yet been read. Wait until tomorrow.
    2. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 21 March 2016 13: 03
      0
      still reading. how to read it - so they will write. us.
  • St Petrov
    St Petrov 21 March 2016 12: 44
    +7
    Satisfied with "Putin's trial"

    precedent created

  • avvg
    avvg 21 March 2016 12: 44
    +4
    It is a pity that we have a humane court and there are restrictions on the use of the death penalty. Such creatures should not be carried by the earth.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 21 March 2016 12: 50
      +4
      It is a pity that our court is humane and the death penalty is not provided. ,,
      sometimes the term is worse than death. I hope she will be hanged by a twenty, let her think about the futility of life.
    2. gergi
      gergi 22 March 2016 09: 09
      +1
      Women cannot be executed! Under no circumstances! We do not live in the pin.do.sii.
  • dyksi
    dyksi 21 March 2016 12: 45
    +6
    The good news is, this stoned whore is on "Ognevka" so that the rest of her insignificant life will go cancer.
    1. An60
      An60 21 March 2016 12: 47
      +2
      Good you ... and humane good
  • Same lech
    Same lech 21 March 2016 12: 45
    +2
    Now the whistle will begin Svidomo and progressive humanity .... hehe in WASHINGTON.
    By and large, KIEV needs the necessary dead SAVCHENKO ... but this lady most of all wants to live and will cling to her insignificant life with all her fibers.

    It is interesting only after the verdict whether it will be exchanged for the captured Russians in the USA and in UKRAINE.
  • Waroc
    Waroc 21 March 2016 12: 45
    +7
    Damn, well, a fool - a fool, sits and smiles - like such all of himself implacable, one word - a stupid animal. As this sheep does not understand that she is heard only as long as she is in prison - she will leave (if and when she leaves), and no one will immediately need ...
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 12: 45
    +24
    I’ll post the poid on the Censor, where the farts are now torn to pieces
    1. The black
      The black 21 March 2016 12: 53
      +8
      I’ll post the poid on the Censor, where the farts are now torn to pieces
      Hey Hey! You’re more careful there, otherwise they will explode from such rush so that a catastrophe will happen worse than Chernobyl laughing
      1. Alex20042004
        Alex20042004 22 March 2016 18: 22
        +1
        Yesterday I asked the boys at the Censor: "Where did Slavik go from Ukraine?", So they, parasites, immediately banned me .....
  • B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 21 March 2016 12: 46
    +4
    Something like "starving and tortured by the bloody regime" she never looks like.
  • AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 21 March 2016 12: 48
    +7
    it’s not clear why they are pulling for so long? she herself! the video admitted when she was only captured that she was a gunner and she fired at the journalists! She herself, what other evidence is needed. The truth is, she made a reservation that she was carrying out the order but this is already secondary.

    But her smiles and masks that she writhing in the cage will fall very quickly. After a year or two, even the lions and tigers look dull when they get into the cage. So wrap around the nadyusha.
  • 3315061
    3315061 21 March 2016 12: 48
    +7
    Sentence Savchenko - the first for Ukrainian war criminals, and should be a lesson to the rest of the law-breakers. Justice must be harsh and inevitable!
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 21 March 2016 13: 05
      +3
      well, after zp Savchenko, the battery commander, who commanded the shelling of people, should sit in this case.
  • pts-m
    pts-m 21 March 2016 12: 51
    +2
    You must answer for your actions according to the law. And fate will add, even if it is deceived, it will report to all generations.
  • VP
    VP 21 March 2016 12: 51
    +1
    Finally, he will master the necessary profession, learn to sew mittens
  • Flinky
    Flinky 21 March 2016 12: 54
    +7
    I watch the broadcast from the courtroom. Schaub, I lived like this aunt was starving! I have drunk such a ryah, asks for a brick!
  • UVB
    UVB 21 March 2016 12: 56
    +9
    All these "Aydars", "Azovs", etc., should be recognized as criminal as in their time by the SS, and every single participant should be prosecuted everywhere and without a statute of limitations. And ideally, hang out on the gallows. I do not believe in the possibility of correction, everyone went to these Terbats voluntarily, with a clear purpose.
  • sir_obs
    sir_obs 21 March 2016 12: 58
    0
    Nevertheless, it was necessary to bang right away, otherwise feed her now ... the martyr was blinded from her, of course it will be forgotten over time, even the most ardent Ukrainians will not be remembered. But it would be better right away ...
  • AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 21 March 2016 12: 59
    +1
    In Kharkov, a fighter of the 92nd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was stabbed to death during a brawl in one of the cafes, Kiev informs. Both fighters were on vacation. We rested in a cafe. a scuffle ensued. The attacker used edged weapons. As a result, one soldier died of his wounds, the second was hospitalized in the "4th ambulance".

    go hohlomEn rive the shirt thump the blue cut all
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 13: 23
      +1
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      The attacker used a cold weapon

      According to eyewitnesses, the attacker looked like Putin.
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 21 March 2016 13: 00
    0
    it is not yet known how much she will be given lope, but the result will be such that she will be exchanged ....
    1. Flinky
      Flinky 21 March 2016 13: 06
      +1
      Not a fact, and not a matter of exchange. And in the fact that a precedent will be created - we have the right to prosecute those who kill our citizens. Inter-right is a precedent, and the consequences will be very far-reaching.
    2. Felix
      Felix 21 March 2016 13: 19
      +1
      Not. Khokhlam she is not needed at large. But in Putin’s dungeons, he’s much more use for it, because you can whine for a long time about something unchallenged ...
  • solovey
    solovey 21 March 2016 13: 02
    +3
    Tell me, American, what is the strength? Is it in the money? So the brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and why? I think that power is in truth. Whoever is true is stronger. So you deceived someone, you made money. And why, have you become stronger? No, I didn’t. Because the truth is not for you, and the one whom he deceived is the truth behind him. So he is stronger.
  • Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 21 March 2016 13: 02
    -2
    The main thing is that I would get as much as I deserve. It is hoped that after the announcement of the verdict, she will be extradited to Ukraine.
  • Abbra
    Abbra 21 March 2016 13: 03
    +2
    I watched the live broadcast from the courtroom. Amazed by Savchenko herself. Behaves like dancing ... [media = http: //ria.ru/incidents/20160321/1393779899.html]
    1. Flinky
      Flinky 21 March 2016 13: 08
      +2
      And after the announcement abruptly turned into a market woman. So screamed that I was nearly deaf.
  • Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 21 March 2016 13: 04
    +2
    They gave little to cattle. It was necessary to give the tower. But this is under normal rulers. And we have liberal shit-democrats. They are still afraid to lift the ban on the death penalty imposed on us by the USA and Geyropa. Although the electric chair and the introduction of poison have not been canceled in the USA itself.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 21 March 2016 13: 24
      +3
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Little given to cattle

      She hasn’t been given anything yet. Or is the headline enough for a smart post? fool
  • roman72-452
    roman72-452 21 March 2016 13: 04
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Donetsk court of Rostov region convicted a member of the Ukrainian gang "Aydar"

    Does anyone know if she was in active military service at that time or not?
    Wiki gives such info
    Later she took part in the fighting as a volunteer of the Aydar battalion [19] with the call sign Bullet [20], remaining an acting officer of the Armed Forces

    It was not a valid one, these "battalions" were included in the AFU later.
    1. atalef
      atalef 21 March 2016 13: 09
      -2
      Quote: roman72-452
      It was not a valid one, these "battalions" were included in the AFU later.

      I'm not talking about battalions, I'm talking about her.
      She could be seconded, etc., etc.
      The question is whether Ukraine’s Defense Ministry recognizes Savchenko as a soldier in active military service and therefore obeying the charter.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 13: 25
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        She could be seconded, etc., etc.

        Sanya, officially, she was allegedly on vacation
        Quote: atalef
        The question is whether Ukraine’s Defense Ministry recognizes Savchenko as a soldier in active duty and therefore obeying the charter

        The question is different, she served, or rather was in Aidar, which the Ukrainians themselves call a gang.
      2. Des10
        Des10 21 March 2016 13: 35
        0
        Quote: atalef
        The question is whether Ukraine’s Defense Ministry recognizes Savchenko as a soldier in active military service and therefore obeying the charter.


        The program on our TV contained information that, at the end of the vacation, she had not arrived at the place of service, in connection with which an official investigation was launched.
        But further - it is not known.
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    2. atalef
      atalef 21 March 2016 13: 09
      -2
      Quote: roman72-452
      It was not a valid one, these "battalions" were included in the AFU later.

      I'm not talking about battalions, I'm talking about her.
      She could be seconded, etc., etc.
      The question is whether Ukraine’s Defense Ministry recognizes Savchenko as a soldier in active military service and therefore obeying the charter.
      1. ruskih
        ruskih 21 March 2016 15: 30
        +1
        I just found this entry: "Since the beginning of the hostilities in the East of Ukraine, Savchenko volunteered for the Aydar battalion. At the same time, she remained at that time an active officer of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and directly participated in the anti-terrorist operation during her two vacations. At the same time, the pilot filed a letter of resignation from the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. " link: https://charter97.org/ru/news/2015/6/17/155877/
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 March 2016 13: 07
    +1
    "Putin's trial".

    And the American side should generally keep quiet. Do not open their mouths about the courts. They were already peeled off to the ground, the "navel" of the Earth, or rather an umbilical hernia.
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 21 March 2016 13: 07
    +1
    I wish her safely grow old somewhere in Mozhaisk ...
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    2. atalef
      atalef 21 March 2016 13: 13
      -1
      Quote: wicked partisan
      I wish her safely grow old somewhere in Mozhaisk ...

      Hello Jura!
      She will be exchanged, so she is not going to appeal the verdict. Why take the time.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 13: 26
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        She will be exchanged

        I think not, it makes no sense.
        1. atalef
          atalef 21 March 2016 13: 42
          -2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: atalef
          She will be exchanged

          I think not, it makes no sense.

          Of course it does. sitting in prison she will remain a symbol.
          Actually, a strong woman got caught, I think the calculation was completely different. It breaks down, he says, for an indicative process, so to speak. But she is so stubborn.
          Actually, in my opinion, all this trial is pretty funny. Just no where to go.
          Well, judge for yourself
          While in active military service, she a priori has judicial immunity (since she was following orders).
          Further, this is how it is necessary to prove. that fire spotter
          Savchenko crimes served as hatred towards the social group of residents of the Lugansk region, as well as Russian-speaking people in general

          Is it that being next to them and hearing that they speak Russian caused a fire on herself?
          I’m not talking about the fact that it’s not generally mentioned where there were correspondents at that time, if in the war zone, among the militias, this generally removes the question.
          But what about crossing the border (illegal), is it that she went to the Russian Federation herself?
          Do you understand a lot of questions? And the answers are youk, as the Kazakhs say.
          It turned out to be strong, not like the 2nd ones, captured in Ukraine, who told the next day - their names, part numbers and commanders.
          Therefore, in a prison in Russia, no one will need it, and Ukraine will have a light in the window and a symbol of resistance to the occupation.
          Exchange, not soon. timed to the next Minsk -3.4.5.6 or something like that.
          It is not possible to hold a trump card endlessly in your hands. The game is over.
          1. The black
            The black 21 March 2016 14: 00
            +5
            While in active military service, she a priori has judicial immunity (since she was following orders
            belay What are you talking about? What is immunity? She committed a WAR crime, being an accomplice in the murder of CIVIL PEOPLE and JOURNALISTS, knowing that they are ...
            1. atalef
              atalef 21 March 2016 14: 34
              -6
              Quote: Black
              While in active military service, she a priori has judicial immunity (since she was following orders
              belay What are you talking about? What is immunity? She committed a WAR crime, being an accomplice in the murder of CIVIL PEOPLE and JOURNALISTS, knowing that they are ...

              If I committed a war crime, why are they judged by a completely different, purely civilian article?
              1. The black
                The black 21 March 2016 14: 58
                +3
                The question is, will there be accusations against the commanders (specific) and the leadership of the APU?
                Because war crimes are a concept of international law, there is no article of war crimes in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. She is specifically convicted - for complicity in the murder .... If she, for example, tortured prisoners (committed a war crime), she would be tried for torture ... etc ... In general, there are legal subtleties that in a nutshell you can’t explain ....
                1. atalef
                  atalef 21 March 2016 17: 29
                  -6
                  Quote: Black
                  Because war crimes are a concept of international law, there is no article of war crimes in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation

                  Russia is a subject of international law and, of course, there is an article on war crimes in its law
                  Quote: Black
                  She is specifically convicted - for complicity in the murder

                  How to whom? military or civilian? That is my question
                  Quote: Black
                  In general, there are legal subtleties that can not be explained in a nutshell ....

                  difficult to knit unbound?
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 14: 31
            +4
            Quote: atalef
            sitting in prison she will remain a symbol

            Sanya, a symbol of what and whom?
            Quote: atalef
            While in active military service, she a priori has judicial immunity (since she was following orders).

            Was not, she was in the Aidar volunteer battalion. In Ukraine, it was mixed with shit.
            Quote: atalef
            It is not possible to hold a trump card endlessly in your hands. The game is over.

            Quote: atalef
            It is not possible to hold a trump card endlessly in your hands. The game is over.

            The power will change faster in Ukraine. It is impossible to play the Russophobia game forever.
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 21 March 2016 14: 33
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              It’s impossible to play the Russophobia game forever.

              A quote two times for hollowers, or from Cheshire infected with foolishness? wassat
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 15: 54
                +1
                Quote: Ruslan67
                A quote two times for hollowers, or from Cheshire infected with foolishness?

                They say what kind of brother-in-law is such a beer laughing
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 21 March 2016 16: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  t, what-in-law, such a beer

                  And you yourself run tongue And the beer was nothing to do with sad
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 16: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    And you yourself run

                    Ruslan, do you want another beer from son-in-lawlaughing
                    1. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 21 March 2016 16: 14
                      +1
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      , you want more beer from son-in-law

                      Want! Only he at work sad But flu from the grandson is enough ...
            2. atalef
              atalef 21 March 2016 14: 58
              -2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Sanya, a symbol of what and whom?

              How what? Well this is how it is presented in the world and Ukraine.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Was not, she was in the Aidar volunteer battalion. In Ukraine, it was mixed with shit.

              Sash, no matter where she was, only one thing matters.
              Does Ukraine recognize her as a soldier, with all the legal subtleties arising from this.
              And you know yes. they recognize her. therefore, all other insenations are not eligible.

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The power will change faster in Ukraine. It is impossible to play the Russophobia game forever.

              Sanya, it’s like a fairy tale pr Russian gas, without which Ukraine will freeze.
              You can play Russophobia with such symbols as Savchenko all the time of her imprisonment - therefore she will be exchanged and Russia is also interested in this.
              1. The black
                The black 21 March 2016 15: 12
                +3
                Sash, no matter where she was, only one thing matters.
                Does Ukraine recognize her as a soldier, with all the legal subtleties arising from this.
                And you know yes. they recognize her. therefore, all other insenations are not eligible.
                That is, according to your logic, if a person is a Ukrainian serviceman, or it doesn’t matter which army, then he has the right to kill obviously civilians ?, to shootings? To torture? .... I want to upset you - it’s not so. And here his actions fall under war crimes .... The task of the investigation was to prove not only Savchenko’s involvement in the murder, but also that she killed (or took part) knowing that he was committing these acts against civilians, not military personnel. I hope I clearly explained.
              2. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 21 March 2016 15: 53
                0
                Quote: atalef
                Well this is how it is presented in the world and Ukraine.

                Ukraine is a tool that is still being used to their advantage.
                Quote: atalef
                And you know yes. they recognize her. therefore, all other insenations are not eligible.

                And you know, well then we spit on it.
                Quote: atalef

                Sanya, it’s like a fairy tale pr Russian gas, without which Ukraine will freeze.

                But in reverse, is it not our gas? laughing
                Quote: atalef
                In Russophobia with such symbols as Savchenko you can play all the time of her imprisonment

                Sanya, she will sit .... I think so, and how it will be later, wait and see.
            3. atalef
              atalef 21 March 2016 14: 58
              -2
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Sanya, a symbol of what and whom?

              How what? Well this is how it is presented in the world and Ukraine.
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Was not, she was in the Aidar volunteer battalion. In Ukraine, it was mixed with shit.

              Sash, no matter where she was, only one thing matters.
              Does Ukraine recognize her as a soldier, with all the legal subtleties arising from this.
              And you know yes. they recognize her. therefore, all other insenations are not eligible.

              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              The power will change faster in Ukraine. It is impossible to play the Russophobia game forever.

              Sanya, it’s like a fairy tale pr Russian gas, without which Ukraine will freeze.
              You can play Russophobia with such symbols as Savchenko all the time of her imprisonment - therefore she will be exchanged and Russia is also interested in this.
          3. B.T.V.
            B.T.V. 21 March 2016 15: 53
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            I’m not talking about the fact that it’s not generally mentioned where there were correspondents at that time, if in the war zone, among the militias, this generally removes the question.


            Alexander, good health to you! Actually, everything was covered in great detail in the press. Correspondents were with a group of refugees when they opened fire on them, and the guys were "identified" - in armor and helmets, with the inscription: "press". It was impossible not to see that it was journalists.
            1. Russiamoy
              Russiamoy 21 March 2016 16: 41
              +3
              and our correspondents were officially there.
              1. atalef
                atalef 21 March 2016 17: 30
                -6
                Quote: Russiamoya
                and our correspondents were officially there.

                Have they crossed the border officially? Were officially accredited as war correspondents?
                1. CONTROL
                  CONTROL 22 March 2016 08: 00
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Have they crossed the border officially? Were officially accredited as war correspondents?

                  Officially - there was no war!
                  And the official accreditation is from the media, from the TV channel! All its employees are automatically "accredited" in the host country! moreover, they have not been denied accreditation in Ukraine so far ...
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 21 March 2016 13: 34
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        She will be exchanged

        Great, Sasha. I also don’t think that it makes sense to exchange. One on one makes no sense. And for a few - it’s not such a value.
        1. atalef
          atalef 21 March 2016 14: 36
          -3
          Quote: EvgNik
          Quote: atalef
          She will be exchanged

          Great, Sasha. I also don’t think that it makes sense to exchange. One on one makes no sense. And for a few - it’s not such a value.


          Zhenya, the sheet is just a rag, and painted in colors is already a flag, and here - in conclusion, it is much more dangerous than in the wild.
          1. andj61
            andj61 21 March 2016 14: 49
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            Zhenya, the sheet is just a rag, and painted in colors is already a flag, and here - in conclusion, it is much more dangerous than in the wild.

            It will not be more dangerous if it turns out to be not only Savchenko, but a dozen or two of the same ones. And even for public threats against our citizens, it would be worth attracting with real terms. Americans are quite practicing this. There will be many - such painted rags and rags will remain.
          2. EvgNik
            EvgNik 21 March 2016 15: 08
            0
            Quote: atalef
            in conclusion, it is much more dangerous than in the wild

            Sasha, I agree that in the wild it will be just worked out material, but the precedent itself is important.
            You look and they go jamb, then it will be possible to exchange.
          3. The black
            The black 21 March 2016 15: 21
            +4
            in conclusion, it is much more dangerous than in the wild.
            perhaps. Only there is still the concept of LAW. Committed - receive and sign. If each sentence is considered from the point of view of any benefit or conjuncture, then you can forget about the law.
      3. Russiamoy
        Russiamoy 21 March 2016 16: 36
        0
        also such an opinion. unfortunately everything goes to this. I want of course hard labor for her.
  • semuil
    semuil 21 March 2016 13: 07
    +6
    Will sit !!!
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 21 March 2016 13: 09
    +2
    The image of "a prisoner, starved to death, a martyr in the basement dungeons" is not drawn! With a smirk on his face, he constantly dresses up in vyshevanki, behaves untied and cynical!
    Must get to the full! Let them see how we treat punitive!
    And let them stick their protest opinions and sanctions in addition!
    1. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 21 March 2016 16: 43
      0
      and in general, really it can’t be pricked with tranquilizers so as not to survive.
    2. Russiamoy
      Russiamoy 21 March 2016 16: 45
      0
      and generally feed her or chop her with tranquilizers (she is still forcibly dripped with vitamins) so that she doesn’t
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  • gg.na
    gg.na 21 March 2016 13: 22
    +1
    Let him sit! We must be able to answer for their degenerate deeds. And the rest will be the science that you should not commit illegal acts against people's lives !!!
  • _NortoN_
    _NortoN_ 21 March 2016 13: 26
    +2
    the more they give the better
  • 2s1122
    2s1122 21 March 2016 13: 35
    +4
    You are looking like a woman in the neighborhood with envy looks, but he swallows the neck professionally. Just a master class. belay
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 23 March 2016 10: 14
      0
      This one will not only swallow. Everything to the bottom ... And you overlook and half the country in addition.
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 21 March 2016 13: 35
    +2
    The court in the Russian Federation is humane; there is no death penalty, which is not democratic by American standards.
    The meaning of the position of the United States, the EU and all human rights organizations is that the murder of Russian journalists should go unpunished, i.e. Russians can and should be killed
    If the Russian authorities must conclude about the opinions of the United States and the West, the attitude of home-grown human rights activists of killers should find a legal assessment.
    With whom Russia cooks porridge together, i.e. establishes economic ties? And can those who consider the punishment for the murder of Russian journalists as illegal, a trial be reliable partners? For them, the benefit is any damage that they can do to Russia, its citizens and the economy.
  • alvog
    alvog 21 March 2016 13: 42
    +3
    Quote: Thought Giant
    It is advisable to give her as much as possible so that the rest of the Ukrainian fascists think about it.

    And no exchanges, with her behavior in court, she earned a stay in the zone for her entire term.
  • evgen75
    evgen75 21 March 2016 13: 43
    +2
    Well, the beginning has been made, we are waiting for the next ..
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 21 March 2016 13: 44
    0
    Yes, I think that Nadiaha will squint at the stage.
    For she is dead much more necessary than Ukraine, rather than living.
    This is how many then nishtyakov can be fucked ...
    By the way, we are waiting for our unwelcome ones with signs "Same sui Nadia".
  • Hooks
    Hooks 21 March 2016 13: 47
    +6
    Information about the verdict reached Bandera.
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 21 March 2016 15: 00
      0
      Is that a gas distribution station laughing
      1. Alex20042004
        Alex20042004 22 March 2016 18: 35
        0
        Here is even more interesting:
  • hohkn
    hohkn 21 March 2016 13: 50
    +2
    Quote: makst83
    The guys will not be returned, but if it is 25 years old, then I will be satisfied with the verdict, like the majority of the thinking population of our country! And in vain, from neighboring countries and associations of countries - do not care!

    And no parole and exchanges. Let him sit from bell to bell. And then dill for exchange has already grabbed people on far-fetched charges. They can still pick it up. There is no need to set a precedent so that there is no temptation.
  • Rom14
    Rom14 21 March 2016 13: 50
    +3
    I look at her and I can’t understand., Like a woman, give birth to children, love a husband, God gave life, rejoice .. But what she did to the prisoners., Killed people, this is not a single gate, a fanatic in the guise of a woman. And the worst thing, in Ukraine now there are not a few of them. And this trial of them, too, and those who support them. These are not people, this is EVIL and needs to be destroyed ... What Russia is doing in Syria now in the name of life on Earth.
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 23 March 2016 10: 16
      0
      In principle, an exchange is possible - for a group of persons: Poroshenko, Kolomoisky, "Rabbit", then this ... Yarosh, Farion, Lyashko and 5-6 dozen other names.
  • Roust
    Roust 21 March 2016 13: 54
    +2
    And let this creature (erroneously born) be rewarded, in the light of this, according to the state court, for those innocently killed with her help, and in the world for her grave sins! Amen! I hope that in the zone it will be an eternal weekly slop.
  • drags33
    drags33 21 March 2016 14: 02
    +12
    Fine! Let IT (whether a woman, only a man ...) sit, think, clean the toilet ... Let this peppy cow break the horns in the zone. Felling her with a jigsaw!
  • brasist
    brasist 21 March 2016 14: 05
    +1
    Quote: Thrall
    Antonina Gerashchenko blows the gathering of all the liberals in defense of Nadya! laughing

    Is that new (case) ...?
  • strelok581
    strelok581 21 March 2016 14: 54
    +3
    Yeah 25. That's good. Very well.
    Our investigative authorities use one, let’s say a trick. A person has, suppose 5 episodes (criminal), they are of course with 100% proof. But they condemn only three, for example. A person receives a sentence, sits out, rejoices at his release and ...... here on a shift, after issuing documents on refreshment, a joyful person goes out of the fence, and there .... crap .... the opera is detained in the local department, and there is a charge for the remaining 2 episodes. And again, arrest, investigation, trial and a new term.
    Gada does not have to sit for the whole term, she can be condemned straight from the colony and added to 25, more. In this case, not much will be added to the full. For Gadi, the first option will be the best, they will add a full plus there will be a "previously convicted" relapse.
  • Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 21 March 2016 14: 58
    +8
    Co-workers about Nadia

    I want to call on the 95th Ombr and everyone who knows "BULLET" tell people the truth !!!!
    Expelled from Iraq for unauthorized leaving the camp! (true for rotation officers). The military police of the US Armed Forces brought to the camp of our troops with the words take your (_l.). Dishonorable patriot !!! (ask the officers of that rotation) The result is an early dismissal. When meeting at the airport NIKOLAEVA (at that time they flew from Iraq to Nikolaev) punched the head of the state administration with a bouquet of roses with the words "You are a creature and I am a soldier" (the head of the state administrator Garkusha in that meeting, maybe there is a video), on the basis of (79 Ombr) refused a room in the sanitary unit (organized for the arriving female military personnel, there were three of them), went to the arrivals unit and, undressed, went to take a shower! (General Razmaznin at that time the deputy commander for educational work was indignant !!! But he was a personal witness of what was happening, however, like all the officers of the 4th company of the 79th brigade!). She has never been a sniper, as well as a pilot! An unbalanced mentally-minded person who got into the 95th Ombr during the period of the general recruitment of contract soldiers! Who needs this PR - the real face of "Batkivshchyna"


    From here https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=540149209486038&id=10000472891

    6490
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 March 2016 15: 01
    +4
    So that in the future there are no problems, they should not be planted, but laid down, immediately and forever. The air in the world will be cleaner.
  • istealth
    istealth 21 March 2016 15: 11
    +2
    they would have given 25 years, and in the last year they had been slaughtered like a dog ... there probably would not have been remembered
  • Weyland
    Weyland 21 March 2016 15: 34
    +3
    According to humane Russian law, Savchenko cannot be sentenced to a life sentence - the maximum law for women convicted of even the most serious crimes is 25 years in prison.

    Really - rotten humanism!
    Saltychikha and Erzbeta Bathory envy Savchenko with black envy!
    1. iouris
      iouris 21 March 2016 22: 58
      0
      23 years is a very difficult sentence.
  • dvg1959
    dvg1959 21 March 2016 15: 48
    +2
    Finally, we got a logical conclusion to the Savchenko case. Justice triumphed.
    We will wait for the next trials of Ukrainian criminals. All of them must be deservedly punished. I wish you success in this noble cause.
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 21 March 2016 16: 09
    +3
    I am beginning to suspect that soon this very Feigin will be declared Putin's agent in Ukraine. It is so inept and so reliably to put the Hero of Ukraine, the owner of the orders "Golden Zirka", "For husbands" III degree, so-called. Order of St. George the Victorious "For the fight against evil", "Freedom Awards", nominee for the award "For Freedom of Thought", winner of the "Fair of Justice" award, laureate of the Jan Karsky Prize "Eagle", and just an honorary citizen of Chervonograd ...
    Only Feigin is capable of this. They are his t.s. watched a portfolio?

    Interestingly, this is the thought that I heard in "Sunday Evening" from Solovyov. At large, Savchenko is not needed by the Ukrainian government. She is needed only in the form of a martyr in "Putin's dungeons."
    Maybe that's why she has such a lawyer and his "law practice" has determined everything?