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Isolation is absolutely not needed by Russia, especially now that Moscow “has regained leading positions on the world political arena,” said former European Commission President Romano Prodi. Moscow and Brussels should establish full cooperation, he said. The ex-president of the USSR M. Gorbachev spoke on the same topic. He hopes that "Western partners" can "make a conclusion: it is senseless to try to isolate Russia."


Alexey Naumov ("Lenta.ru") talked with former European Commission President Romano Prodi. In a conversation flashed on the topic of economic difficulties, the crisis with migrants, the possibility of a British exit from the EU. One of the important topics was the so-called new format of relations between the European Union and Russia.

One of the questions of the journalist sounded like this: “The authorities of the European Union are not going to abandon the policy of sanctions against Russia. Someone thinks that the reason is in the influence of Washington, someone thinks that when developing a European policy, much attention is paid to moral values ​​and beliefs. What do you think is paramount here? ”

Answering this question, Prodi noted that the decision to impose sanctions was taken by the Europeans themselves, and “the American position played only a secondary role here.”

According to the former chairman of the European Commission, at present it is necessary to “change the course of thought within the EU and begin to establish relations with Russia,” and “the first violin is to be played by Germany because of its significant influence on the elaboration of common European decisions.”

Prodi believes that neither Brussels nor Moscow needs isolation of Russia, and therefore the parties should “establish full cooperation”: “At the moment, the countries of Europe treat Russia differently: someone wants immediate lifting of sanctions, someone believes their eternal. I hope we all understand: the policy of sanctions is the road to nowhere, they need to be canceled. Isolation of Russia is completely unnecessary, especially now that it has regained its leading position in the world political arena. Moscow and Brussels need to establish full cooperation - it is important in the long-term historical perspective. "

To begin with, the EU should “stop demonizing Russia's policy,” and Moscow “should not strive to undermine the unity of the EU.” Then, for a start, you can start some small joint humanitarian projects in Ukraine. “For example,” Prodi noted, “it is possible to establish cooperation through the European and Eurasian Economic Unions to demonstrate the compatibility of these organizations.”

The topic of “isolation” of Russia was touched in the new article by Mikhail S. Gorbachev. Former USSR President wrote it for a newspaper. «The Independent» (United Kingdom).


M. S. Gorbachev during his short presidency


Mikhail Gorbachev notes that if a global survey were conducted today, in which people would be asked only one thing: “Is the world moving in the right direction?”, The answer would probably be negative. There would be a “loud“ no. ”

Memories of the "Arab Spring", indicates the former Soviet leader, "have a bitter taste." Syria, Libya, refugees in Europe, the east of Ukraine ... The world, which has become much more interconnected than ever before, is now subject to rapid changes. Globalization, mass migration, the Internet - all this has led to additional difficulties for the governments of individual countries, which will have to solve the “crises of our time”.

Instead of cooperation in the course of today distrust, "reminiscent of the Cold War," the author believes. The think tanks focused on the study of war scenarios in Europe. They talk about a third world war. The United States plans to deploy additional heavy weapons and equipment in the countries of Central and Eastern Europe worth more than 3 billion. And this is just one example of a “collapse of trust in international relations,” the ex-president writes.

"Militarist thinking" is infected with both politics and the media. For about two decades now, governments have been prepared to resolve disputes, using force or threatening with force. Power decisions in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya and other regions, however, brought “more harm than good”. And what? “Nevertheless, we are not able to learn the right lessons,” says Gorbachev. International discourse, consisting of "harsh controversy and recriminations, smacks of propaganda war." In such an environment, the dialogue "becomes almost impossible."

Yet Gorbachev sees reason for hope. After all, the negotiations on the Iranian nuclear program (it would have been unthinkable to think about it ten years ago) were crowned with success. After several years of inaction, important agreements were reached at the Paris Conference on Climate Change. In recent weeks, the United States and Russia have come close to concluding an armistice in Syria. Vladimir Putin announced the withdrawal of the main part of the military forces from this country. Yes, the truce is fragile, but apparently, “we are moving in the right direction,” Gorbachev said.

“I hope,” the author of the article writes further, “that from all this our western partners can now conclude: it is pointless to try to isolate Russia.” Russia is an indispensable political actor in solving serious problems, and it "cannot be isolated." The world “needs us,” says Gorbachev about Russia.

At the same time, Europe, facing a global threat from terrorism, needs the most cooperation. If terror has no boundaries, then individual efforts to combat it will not work. States need to share information, resources, knowledge and experience.

Russia, which is now "in the grip of the financial crisis," will undoubtedly benefit "from a healthier international atmosphere," the author believes. “Sanctions have undermined the Russian economy, as well as the fall in oil prices,” he recalls. “But no matter how tempting it is to blame outside pressure for all the troubles, Russia should nevertheless recognize the fact that its crisis is mostly local.” According to Gorbachev, economic prosperity is unattainable without political reforms.

The author further explained that the “current model of power in Russia” does not work “either politically or economically”, and urged the country to “return to the path of real democracy”, refusing the temptations to “divide society into good and bad people, on red and blue, patriots and liberals. " “Just as governments should cooperate to counter global terrorism, we Russians must work together to achieve common goals,” Gorbachev summarized.

Influential magazine "Half" also wrote about the need for cooperation between Russia and the West.

In a small article, well-known analyst Ian Bremmer recalled that V. V. Putin in Syria set several goals. First of all, he wanted to restore the position of Russia as a fully independent player outside of his “immediate sphere of influence”. Russia should be taken seriously. In addition, he wanted to “change the topic of the conflict in Ukraine,” because of which Russia was “isolated” and the West “imposed sanctions”. He also hoped to convince the Europeans that by taking action against terrorists in Syria, Russia could help Europe cope with the refugee crisis.

And both sides could really benefit from the proposed cooperation. If Russia could help Europe by stabilizing the situation in Syria (as Putin probably argued), then the EU could lift the sanctions.

By withdrawing the troops, Putin also made it clear to Washington that Russia would not get bogged down in the Syrian war. And there was also a "theatrical" effect: the announcement of the withdrawal of the main troops was made "on the first day of the resumption of the Syrian peace talks." Putin actually presented himself as a peacemaker. Yes, he "is not always a master strategist, but he proved once again: he can be a brilliant tactician," says Bremmer.

As the analyst believes, Putin has managed to once again show himself in a new capacity - as a self-confident and independent political player, a leader with whom the West “could still cooperate”.

* * *


So, Western experts and analysts, and with them the famous peacemaker M. S. Gorbachev, suddenly reported in a single choir about the dangers of isolating Russia, which neither Brussels nor Moscow needed, and the benefits of EU cooperation with Moscow. There are also opinions that “the sanctions policy is a road to nowhere,” and the sanctions “must be lifted”. European experts recognize that Russia has managed to regain a leading position in the world political arena, and therefore Moscow and Brussels should establish cooperation. In the US, there are also voices calling on Washington to pay attention to Putin’s “brilliant tactics” with whom the West “could still cooperate.”

Apparently, the same “tape”, in which Obama and his strategic brothers in Europe tried to “isolate” Russia ended in Washington and Brussels.
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  1. Sensatus
    Sensatus 21 March 2016 08: 55
    +36
    Mikhail Gorbachev notes that if a global survey were conducted today, in which people would be asked only one thing: “Is the world moving in the right direction?”, The answer would probably be negative. There would be a “loud“ no. ”

    And it was humpback that walked in the forefront of this movement. Now, just as the EBN will try to atone for sins before death. Only hardly succeed. Sinned too much.
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 21 March 2016 09: 22
      +56
      This revolt - Gorbachev listen to not respect yourself!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 21 March 2016 10: 58
        +34
        No matter how M. Gorbachev speaks out in favor of Russia now, he cannot and cannot be forgiven for Russia's national betrayal and the collapse of the country in 1991.
        I believe that it is now necessary to collect signatures for an appeal to the President of the Russian Federation on the refusal of M. Gorbachev in the future burial of his body in Russia.
        Let the "collective West" bury him in its own territory.
        1. Shveps
          Shveps 21 March 2016 14: 41
          +4
          Quote: Tatiana
          I believe that it is now necessary to collect signatures for an appeal to the President of the Russian Federation on the refusal of M. Gorbachev in the future burial of his body in Russia.


          Incidentally, Gorbachev was awarded the current tandem (PUTIN - MEDVEDEV) with the highest order of Russia - the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called, for outstanding services to the Russian state.
          “In accordance with the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated December 22 2010 N 2354-r, the Presidential Center B.N. Yeltsin was allocated 2 billion rubles from the state budget.”
          And who was the head of government in 2009? Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich!
          On the creation of the Yeltsin Center, Putin V.V. allocated 1 billion rubles.

          And who are you going to contact?
          1. GUKTU
            GUKTU 21 March 2016 15: 15
            +6
            +100500 as they say !!! The fact that the hunchback is at large and that the EBN has rebuilt the museum, and his family is reaping the fruits of his reign, speaks only about one thing - power smoothly passed to their followers and admirers. There can be no question of justice.
            1. Razvedka_Boem
              Razvedka_Boem 21 March 2016 23: 40
              +2
              They forgot the dashing 90s .. They forgot the state of EBN leaving Putin to the country ..
          2. sherp2015
            sherp2015 21 March 2016 20: 32
            0
            Quote: Shveps
            Incidentally, Gorbachev was awarded the current tandem (PUTIN - MEDVEDEV) with the highest order of Russia - the Order of St. Andrew the First-Called, for outstanding services to the Russian state.
            “In accordance with the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated December 22 2010 N 2354-r, the Presidential Center B.N. Yeltsin was allocated 2 billion rubles from the state budget.”
            And who was the head of government in 2009? Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich!
            On the creation of the Yeltsin Center, Putin V.V. allocated 1 billion rubles.

            And who are you going to contact?


            Hmmm ...
            There is nothing to argue!
          3. Razvedka_Boem
            Razvedka_Boem 21 March 2016 23: 38
            +2
            Politics is such a thing .. dirty .. and you can’t deal with it and everyone likes it. Not everything is visible from your sofa ..)
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 March 2016 09: 39
      +37
      According to Gorbachev, economic prosperity is unattainable without political reform.

      As Humpbacked reformed we still feel in our own skin, we reformed such a country so that the country did not become.
      1. Maksus
        Maksus 21 March 2016 09: 55
        +14
        Yes Yes. Somehow, just some cabron becomes a former, he immediately begins to "love" Russia (yes Labeled), talks about friendship and so on ... In the furnace of such experts, you had to think with your head when he was in office.
        1. flay
          flay 21 March 2016 11: 21
          +11
          He does not know how to think with his own head, before Raisa Maksimovna thought for him, and now he has taken out the old set of stamps and is trying to do the usual thing, BOLOLOGY,
          NOTHING ABOUT. He cannot come up with something new.
          1. Signore Tomato
            Signore Tomato 21 March 2016 18: 16
            +2
            Quote: flay
            He does not know how to think with his own head, before Raisa Maksimovna thought for him, and now he has taken out the old set of stamps and is trying to do the usual thing, BOLOLOGY,
            NOTHING ABOUT. He cannot come up with something new.



            This talking MEMBER of the USSR government climbed up due to his language and nothing more. In the late 80s, he betrayed everything that he could reach - the Army, Navy, Aviation, agriculture, and the largest industry.
            It is bad that so far there has not been found for this subhuman ice ax for the betrayal of the country!
      2. Good cat
        Good cat 21 March 2016 11: 06
        +3
        Yeah, damn reformer ..... democratic, "Gorby-drain in full."
        1. 222222
          222222 21 March 2016 14: 08
          +3
          ... yesterday in Solovyov's program "Sunday evening" .. there was for the first time the former chief of Israeli intelligence NATIV Yakov Kedmi (KAZAKOV YAKOV IOSIFOVICH)
          .... the smartest person !! listening is a pleasure ...
          ..About this structure here
          http://www.nativ.h12.ru/kedmi_3.htm


          WHAT does Invitation to such a VIP mean ???
          1. Cap.Morgan
            Cap.Morgan 21 March 2016 18: 01
            +1
            Quote: 222222
            ... yesterday in Solovyov's program "Sunday evening" .. there was for the first time the former chief of Israeli intelligence NATIV Yakov Kedmi (KAZAKOV YAKOV IOSIFOVICH)
            .... the smartest person !! listening is a pleasure ...
            ..About this structure here
            http://www.nativ.h12.ru/kedmi_3.htm


            WHAT does Invitation to such a VIP mean ???

            None of Yasha's predictions came true. He appears frequently on TV in Israel. So-so "specialist"
            1. 222222
              222222 21 March 2016 21: 09
              0
              Major General
              Cap.Morgan (1) Today, 18:01 ↑ None of Yasha's predictions came true. "
              He does not predict .a gives a real assessment of the situation at a given point in time and conclusions from it. Situation .. always changes and the result of the assessment
              PS - (- .. I did NOT put ..)
            2. gladcu2
              gladcu2 22 March 2016 15: 38
              +1
              Cap morgan

              The predictions of Jacob Kedmi should not come true. He models events, not predicts. With predictions to Baba Vanga.
      3. Blondy
        Blondy 21 March 2016 13: 13
        +3
        I don’t suffer from necrophilia in order to listen to corrupted political bodies.
    3. ImPerts
      ImPerts 21 March 2016 09: 54
      0
      The author further explained that the “current model of power in Russia” does not work “either politically or economically”, and urged the country to “return to the path of real democracy”, refusing the temptations to “divide society into good and bad people, on red and blue, patriots and liberals. " “Just as governments should cooperate to counter global terrorism, we Russians must work together to achieve common goals,” Gorbachev summarized.
      1. cap
        cap 21 March 2016 10: 46
        +12
        Quote: ImPerts
        The author further explained that the “current model of power in Russia” does not work “either politically or economically”, and urged the country to “return to the path of real democracy”, refusing the temptations to “divide society into good and bad people, on red and blue, patriots and liberals. " “Just as governments should cooperate to counter global terrorism, we Russians must work together to achieve common goals,” Gorbachev summarized.


        Maps with the location of the Strategic Missile Forces rockets and target marks, President Vladimir Putin will not be lucky in England, as the President of the USSR M.S. Gorbachev did.

        He received the medal "For Victory in the Cold War" (American), the Nobel Prize for Peace, well, the corresponding assessment of the people to boot. It remains to publish the memoirs.
        "The topic of" isolation "of Russia was touched upon in a new article by M. S. Gorbachev."The former USSR president wrote it for the newspaper The Independent (Great Britain).
        He has already said everything to his people.
        1. ImPerts
          ImPerts 21 March 2016 12: 40
          +4
          The rest was cut off.
          I wrote that after the pearls that the homegrown liberals issued about me, my country, people, I need to go around them per kilometer. Otherwise, they can bite and infect rabies. Here you will inevitably be divided into red and blue, healthy and non-infectious.
        2. python2a
          python2a 21 March 2016 16: 02
          +1
          Honestly fulfills the soldering.
      2. 97110
        97110 21 March 2016 11: 09
        +2
        Quote: ImPerts
        we, Russians, must work together to achieve common goals, ”-

        prevent democracy (power of the American people) in Russia
  2. cniza
    cniza 21 March 2016 08: 56
    +11
    Apparently, the same “tape”, in which Obama and his strategic brothers in Europe tried to “isolate” Russia ended in Washington and Brussels.


    Russia is too big and too tough for anyone.
  3. avvg
    avvg 21 March 2016 08: 56
    +17
    The traitor "Mr. Gorby" destroyed the country and "crows" about something else.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 21 March 2016 08: 59
      +7
      Quote: avvg
      The traitor "Mr. Gorby" broke up the country and still crows.

      We must work out the cookies!
      1. Kamchatsky
        Kamchatsky 21 March 2016 09: 32
        +16
        When the tagged is bent, it must be buried one meter from the border on the other side. Firstly, he is not needed on our earth. Secondly, in order to spit on his grave, a passport was not needed.
        1. ruskih
          ruskih 21 March 2016 10: 23
          +13
          On our land, it is also not needed. The dead are all the same, so let him live longer, and let him SEE, HEAR and READ how he is treated and what the former citizens of the USSR wish him.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 21 March 2016 10: 58
            +7
            Quote: ruskih
            let him SEE, HEAR and READ how they relate to him and what former citizens of the USSR wish him.

            We should send him a telegram on May 1, with the corresponding congratulations and wishes from the people. wassat
            1. ruskih
              ruskih 21 March 2016 11: 26
              +5
              Helen, I can imagine how many signatures there will be under this telegram.
  4. Aleksander
    Aleksander 21 March 2016 09: 02
    +15
    Let the marked one say first, has the world become safer after his "peacekeeping" policy? And then he makes an expert.
  5. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 21 March 2016 09: 03
    +7
    Answering this question, Prodi noted that the decision to impose sanctions was taken by the Europeans themselves, and “the American position played only a secondary role here.”

    In chemistry there is the concept of "catalyst", this thing itself does not participate in the reaction, but without it this reaction does not work. These overseasians vyaknul about sanctions, dragged their lackeys into an economic war against Russia, but they themselves turned a little, more howling.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 March 2016 09: 04
    +7
    Gorbachev, as soon as he returned to Russia, he immediately began to speak reasonably. He probably wants to be buried humanly (I don’t even stutter on awakening of conscience).
    Apparently, the same “insulating tape” ended in Washington and Brussels, with the help of which Obama and his strategic brothers in Europe tried to “isolate” Russia

    I will support your conclusion, Oleg. Even in the United States, reasonable people began to understand that Russia cannot be broken by force. The most interesting thing is that the EU, by inertia (this is what the US instructions mean) is trying to "wrinkle" our country while experiencing great difficulties for itself. Union of idiots gathered in Brussels.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 21 March 2016 09: 13
      +3
      This ... the land here will not accept .. They will bury him somewhere near Berlin, there he is "idolized" ..
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Gorbachev, as soon as he returned to Russia, he immediately began to speak reasonably. He probably wants to be buried humanly (I don’t even stutter on awakening of conscience).
      Apparently, the same “insulating tape” ended in Washington and Brussels, with the help of which Obama and his strategic brothers in Europe tried to “isolate” Russia

      I will support your conclusion, Oleg. Even in the United States, reasonable people began to understand that Russia cannot be broken by force. The most interesting thing is that the EU, by inertia (this is what the US instructions mean) is trying to "wrinkle" our country while experiencing great difficulties for itself. Union of idiots gathered in Brussels.
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 21 March 2016 09: 35
        +11
        Quote: dmi.pris
        the earth will not accept here .. They will bury him somewhere near Berlin, there he is "idolized" ..

        Do not rush with the forecast. In Berlin they don’t remember him. But the next memorial with us is quite likely. On which people will not only spit but ...
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 21 March 2016 12: 06
          +7
          Quote: EvgNik
          Do not rush with the forecast. In Berlin they don’t remember him. But the next memorial with us is quite likely. On which people will not only spit but ...

          There will be no respect - 100%
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 21 March 2016 09: 20
      +8
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I will support your conclusion, Oleg. Even in the United States, reasonable people began to understand that Russia cannot be broken by force. The most interesting thing is that the EU, by inertia (this is what the US instructions mean) is trying to "wrinkle" our country while experiencing great difficulties for itself. Union of idiots gathered in Brussels.

      The United States was very tense with sanctions. The Americans did not touch a single industry that is important to them, but they try to squeeze Europeans out of these areas. And the old hanger, Merkel helps them. The Americans promised to support them in the next election of the UN Secretary General, so she is working out betraying the interests of the European Union.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 21 March 2016 09: 36
        +3
        And the old hanger, Merkel helps them.

        Totally agree with you. To date, the comparison is good. On my own I will add that this hanger was not in size and strongly stretched the shoulders, and also contributed to the establishment of "moths".
      2. cap
        cap 21 March 2016 10: 58
        +3
        Quote: Amurets
        The Americans promised her to support her in the next election of the UN Secretary General, so she works out, betraying the interests of the European Union.


        And I think, why did she get so frequent to the States?
        The chair on the figure picks up laughing
        dialogdialog
  7. Flinky
    Flinky 21 March 2016 09: 08
    +10
    I would be wary of Putin’s place. These attempts to trick grandma mean nothing. We have always been and will be the goal of number zero for those whose only god is the golden calf.
  8. ruAlex
    ruAlex 21 March 2016 09: 10
    +4
    Russia did this and once again proved a simple truth, a kind word and colt works better than just a kind word
  9. sa-ag
    sa-ag 21 March 2016 09: 13
    +9
    "... Apparently, in Washington and Brussels the very" tape "with the help of which Obama and his strategic brothers in Europe tried to" isolate "Russia came to an end."

    Not so long ago, in the same Washington, it was announced that sanctions could be lifted subject to the return of Crimea, so that someone is building illusions, remember at least Johnson-Vanik, how long it was canceled
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 21 March 2016 12: 42
      +1
      Quote: sa-ag
      remember at least Johnson-Vanik

      What is the problem? They canceled "Jackson-Vanik" and immediately reintroduced the "Magnitsky list".
      1. onega67
        onega67 21 March 2016 13: 12
        +1
        Iran lifted sanctions, awarded compensation !!!
  10. pimen
    pimen 21 March 2016 09: 27
    +2
    you just don’t be afraid to spoil relations with all who wish
  11. Vitwin
    Vitwin 21 March 2016 09: 29
    +11
    Someone tagged a ghoul, recently flashed on all the resources - apparently the pans have already been over the devil.
  12. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 21 March 2016 09: 30
    +2
    According to the United States, the world order is to protect the interests of the United States.
    It is necessary to create an alliance of countries defending their national interests, countries - anti-globalists.
  13. atamankko
    atamankko 21 March 2016 09: 32
    +5
    We will go our own way, not paying attention to the howling of the western jackals,
    and "tagged" should behave like a calf in a stall "crap and stop."
  14. surrozh
    surrozh 21 March 2016 09: 36
    +8
    "If I were Putin, I would be on my guard."
    I feel they will hang Ukraine on us for lifting the sanctions, they just do nothing.
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 March 2016 09: 45
      +13
      Quote: surozh
      "If I were Putin, I would be on my guard."
      I feel they will hang Ukraine on us for lifting the sanctions, they just do nothing.

      So now this is going on with a suitcase without a handle, a genus called Ukraine, who will carry this suitcase.
  15. S. TALIN
    S. TALIN 21 March 2016 09: 41
    +10
    "Then, to begin with, you can start some small joint humanitarian projects in Ukraine."

    We know your joint projects ...
    The EU type will steer, and the loot and materials from Russia ... Right now, bl ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 March 2016 10: 12
      +8
      Quote: S. TALIN
      Then, to begin with, you can start some small joint humanitarian projects in Ukraine. "

      And Ukraine is against! How does it "cooperate with Russia?" NO_E_T! and in general, today is a national holiday - the world day of people with Down syndrome! Glory to Ukraine!
      However, free gas from Russia will be accepted as humanitarian aid.
  16. guzik007
    guzik007 21 March 2016 09: 41
    +2
    hunchbacked, apparently suffered all myopia all his life — the farther from power, the better he sees.
  17. S. TALIN
    S. TALIN 21 March 2016 09: 43
    +4
    In general, do not sell anything from resources to Europe!
    Let them dig it out ...
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 21 March 2016 18: 05
      0
      Quote: S. TALIN
      In general, do not sell anything from resources to Europe!
      Let them dig it out ...

      Well, what will you sell to Europe? Lada? Or wooden spoons?
      The Americans will gladly replace us; they will carry gas with tankers.
  18. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 21 March 2016 09: 44
    +4
    Then, for starters, you can start some small joint humanitarian projects in Ukraine.

    The policy of sanctions has not paid off. Russia has learned to fight them and has made progress on some issues. Western policy in / in Ukraine did not pay off - they also got into a puddle. Now, speeches for love and friendship in order to hang on Russia the restoration or resuscitation of dill. All in order to crush Russia. I do not believe in this love and friendship.
  19. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 21 March 2016 09: 53
    +5
    A product of the stagnant partnomenclature. A limp, adaptive mattress. The type of our current liberals. The hands of him pressed the mighty of this world. am Not such a person had to start reforms. With water splashed out of the tub and child.
  20. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 21 March 2016 09: 54
    +7
    Regarding any sayings of Gorbachev (only with a small letter), the president (this is about him) lives in England, in general, what right do you have after that even to look at the map of the Russian Federation ,!
    Regarding the buildup of military power, a demonstration of power, etc. !!!! Any commerce, any economy will develop only in the strong, the weak will devour. This is even the law of Nature.
    What he did, roughly. If a boxer is told that you don’t do it, don’t build up strength, experience, you plump, gobble up, everything is fine, then you will enter the ring, there are the laws of tolerance, you will win and you will prosper. Well, nonsense.
    Only a strong state can be economically powerful. And the beauty and grandeur of power is in its non-use. Then they will abide by the law and treat you right, not be afraid, but respect.
    Damn, it’s a pity there are no other words, don’t miss it, he still speaks there, he pulls out pearls!
  21. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 March 2016 09: 58
    +9
    Russia feels much "healthier" when there are "no friends" around! I don't remember who said that friendship with them is worse than a war with the Anglo-Saxons.
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 21 March 2016 12: 47
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      I don’t remember who said

      It is bad to have an Anglo-Saxon enemy, but even worse to have his friend.

      (c) General A.E. Wandam
  22. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 21 March 2016 10: 03
    +2
    The author further explained that the “current model of power in Russia” does not work “either politically or economically,” and urged the country to “return to the path of real democracy”
    One might think that under Gorbachev the "model of power" worked perfectly.
  23. Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 March 2016 10: 09
    +3
    That’s their whole point, and this Prodi is cunning: Then, for starters, we can start some small joint humanitarian projects in Ukraine.
    I translate into Russian:
    Despite the fact that in addition to receiving hundreds of thousands of refugees, Russia alone provides humanitarian support to the Donbass, we are offered together with Oyropa to feed the rest of Ukraine.
    There are no pipes, you are falling apart, and you drag this burden.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 March 2016 10: 28
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      You can start some small joint humanitarian projects in Ukraine.

      But in general, maybe this proposal for the division of Ukraine? repeat they will take the memory for themselves, and the RF - everything else ... wink
      1. uragan114
        uragan114 21 March 2016 20: 54
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Ros 56
        You can start some small joint humanitarian projects in Ukraine.

        But in general, maybe this proposal for the division of Ukraine? repeat they will take the memory for themselves, and the RF - everything else ... wink


        And the constant border war with disadvantages?
  24. 72jora72
    72jora72 21 March 2016 10: 29
    +2
    “Sanctions have undermined the Russian economy, as well as a drop in oil prices,” he recalls. “But no matter how tempting it is to blame external troubles for all the troubles, Russia should nevertheless acknowledge the fact that its crisis is mainly of local bottling.” According to Gorbachev, economic prosperity is unattainable without political reform.
    Bitch bald, this crisis began with you at one time ..... reformer fuv.
  25. Berber
    Berber 21 March 2016 10: 36
    +2
    From the very beginning of the crisis in Ukraine, Mrs. Merkel was neutral. Then, after negotiations with American comrades, she took an anti-Russian position. After these negotiations, gold from the US vaults began to return to Germany. In order for Merkel not to slip off, the return was stretched in time. In general, I think while gold from America is dripping, Merkel will be against us.
  26. Zomanus
    Zomanus 21 March 2016 10: 41
    +2
    The policy of friendship and peace has never brought to good.
    For there are peoples who will take their power and thrive on resources,
    accumulated by peace-loving peoples.
    The fact that Gorbachev still did not understand this shows
    how wrong were our rulers, putting him at the head of the USSR.
    His calls alone to nullify nuclear weapons already indicate
    that man is clearly not of this world. Because only the threat of mutual destruction
    keeps the world from another mega-war and has led to such a development as it is now.
    Otherwise, they would continue to put each other in millions in nuclear-free wars.
  27. weksha50
    weksha50 21 March 2016 10: 53
    +4
    "Russia, now in the grip of a financial crisis, will undoubtedly benefit “from a healthier international atmosphere”, the author believes. “Sanctions have undermined the Russian economy, as well as a drop in oil prices,” he recalls. “But no matter how tempting it is to blame external troubles for all the troubles, Russia should nevertheless acknowledge the fact that its crisis is mainly of local bottling.” According to Gorbachev, economic prosperity unattainable without political reform"...

    That’s what, as always, this still-dead female dog leads his game ...
    Change the foreign policy of Russia, change the regime (read - remove Putin - put Mishka Kasyanov), and so on ...

    Until now, he is blindly impressed by the "positive" reforms and economic models of his rule ...

    How long will our mass media circulate his infamous torments ??? And we - read ???
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 March 2016 11: 04
      +4
      Quote: weksha50
      According to Gorbachev, economic prosperity is unattainable without political reforms "...

      Correctly! Only reform reform discord!
      Give socialism and the Stalin program of economic development! Then there will be prosperity and political reform. laughing
      1. weksha50
        weksha50 21 March 2016 12: 56
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Give socialism and the Stalin program of economic development! Then there will be prosperity and political reform.



        Helen, how is it - the irony ??? Judging by the smiling face?

        And I would vote for IT with both hands ...
        Each of us appreciates the possibility of a return to socialism from our point of view ...
        On the one hand - universal leveling ...
        On the other hand, the absence of a sharp distinction in society (clearly visible, at least) and the confidence of the majority of the people in tomorrow ...

        On the one hand, there is a more or less powerful economy, the financial resources of which were enough for everything - social programs, science with education, and space with an army-navy ...
        On the other hand, cutting back on the most necessary budget items, allegedly due to a lack of money ...

        Shortages - who and why?

        If somewhere something is missing (gone), then somewhere something has arrived (even in excess) ...

        So - for me - socialism is better than modern crap capitalism ...
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 21 March 2016 14: 42
          +1
          Quote: weksha50
          Helen, how is it - the irony ??? Judging by the smiling face?

          Not! I’m looking forward to the expression on the face of the liberals when they realize that Russia has chosen socialism. hi
  28. Senior manager
    Senior manager 21 March 2016 10: 59
    +2
    M. Gorbachev, as a political oracle, does not need to be published and referenced, this figure has established himself in a certain way, he will not go out of his rut, he is a slave to his image. Therefore, in my opinion, relying on his opinion is incorrect.
    1. wervolf
      wervolf 21 March 2016 19: 27
      0
      Incorrect? Somehow you gently about "Judas"; This is CH.M.O. teaches others to do what he himself does not know how
  29. Bogdanov Artem
    Bogdanov Artem 21 March 2016 11: 05
    +2
    Only it seems to me that from the article (Brokeback) stinks?
  30. EvgNik
    EvgNik 21 March 2016 11: 08
    0
    At the same time, Europe, facing the global threat from terrorism, needs cooperation most of all.

    Sure. They screwed up themselves under the leadership of the states, and now Russia is to rake these Augean stables and once again save the Western "civilization". Once again, having received accusations of "aggression".
  31. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 21 March 2016 11: 32
    0
    Prodi: "Moscow and Brussels need to establish full-fledged cooperation - it is important in the long-term historical perspective."

    Gorbachev: “the current model of power in Russia” does not work “either politically or economically”, and urged the country to “return to the path of real democracy”, abandoning the temptations to “divide society into good and bad people, red and blue, patriots and liberals ". “Just as governments must work together to counter global terrorism, we Russians must work together to achieve common goals.”

    How good it is to retroactively proclaim the ideas of "full cooperation", "real democracy", etc. "progressive ideas" of peaceful coexistence, etc.
    Why didn’t you realize these ideas while in power?
  32. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 21 March 2016 11: 34
    +1
    Judah no more
  33. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 21 March 2016 11: 51
    +4
    hunchbacked, he rotted and stinks during his lifetime and still gets into politics. He hopes to beg forgiveness from the people, he won’t wait to tie and release such a leg for two birches.
  34. Committee
    Committee 21 March 2016 11: 53
    +1
    And we seem to have missed Cuba ....
  35. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 21 March 2016 11: 58
    +1
    Why take a full-face photo? The spots in the photo are enough to recognize Judas.
  36. Taygerus
    Taygerus 21 March 2016 12: 56
    0
    let them insulate themselves and let them not forget the tagged one, the greedy one, but we have nothing to meddle with ourselves who we want, so we can isolate it so that it won’t seem a little angry
  37. engineer
    engineer 21 March 2016 13: 01
    +1
    I am an atheist and do not believe in signs. But, how not to remember the humpbacked spit on his bald head? Truly: God marks the hate. Amen.
  38. krops777
    krops777 21 March 2016 13: 09
    +2
    One of the questions of the journalist sounded like this: “The authorities of the European Union are not going to abandon the policy of sanctions against Russia. Someone thinks that the reason is in the influence of Washington, someone thinks that when developing a European policy, much attention is paid to moral values ​​and beliefs. What do you think is paramount here? ”

    Answering this question, Prodi noted that the decision to impose sanctions was taken by the Europeans themselves, and “the American position played only a secondary role here.”

    C'mon, but I thought the opposite smile
  39. drilled
    drilled 21 March 2016 13: 10
    +2
    Gorbachev ... Interestingly, this creature dreams of people loyal to them? Two Yugoslavia (not counting civil wars), two Iraq, Transnistria, Karabakh, Ossetia, Abkhazia, two Chechnya, Tajikistan, Dagestan, Libya, Syria, Ukraine ... And this B. uncle still shows his face ?!
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 21 March 2016 17: 44
      +1
      He has everything in chocolate. Do not worry. The vodka is alive, and lives in Germany.
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  41. KRIG55
    KRIG55 21 March 2016 15: 27
    +1
    It’s a big sin, but I can’t wait when M.S. reunited with his beloved Raisa Maximovna. Here I will mark this event on a grand scale. For the last 30 years it’s difficult to come up with a big enemy of my Fatherland.
  42. Bator
    Bator 21 March 2016 15: 27
    +3
    we wish Gorbach a long life, so that he lives to the tribunal.
    1. wow
      wow 21 March 2016 18: 13
      0
      THIS will die before long and in foolish Muuuuks !!!
  43. bandabas
    bandabas 21 March 2016 16: 26
    +1
    Let's just hammer on Gorby. De facto and de jure. The political corpse.
  44. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 21 March 2016 18: 10
    0
    ...
    Then, for starters, you can start some small joint humanitarian projects in Ukraine ...


    In the opinion of the gay loafers, this means that Russia will start investing in the Skakland economy, while the gay loafers will stand, watch and nod "yes, yes!"
  45. wow
    wow 21 March 2016 18: 12
    +1
    Who is the "master strategist" then? Is this Kenyan macaque !!! ???
  46. Siberian 1975
    Siberian 1975 21 March 2016 18: 47
    0
    I couldn’t do that. To live in the country and know that they hate you to cramp in their fists and not leave. Chur, I am the first in the queue to give a damn about his grave!
  47. t118an
    t118an 21 March 2016 19: 22
    +1
    So .. as there is and shoot .. swollen with fat .. I’m born .. Judah ..
  48. PPD
    PPD 21 March 2016 20: 19
    +2
    Person living wage!
  49. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 21 March 2016 21: 44
    +1
    Quote: Signor Tomato
    In the late 80s, he betrayed everything that he could reach - the Army, Navy, Aviation, agriculture, and the largest industry.
    It is bad that so far there has not been found for this subhuman ice ax for the betrayal of the country!

    We need to remember that he did not choose himself as the General Sekom of the CPSU, and then became president! It was the CPSU - "mind, honor and conscience" made him its leader (I wonder how much the purchase of the Politburo and the CPSU Central Committee cost the West?). And we, fascinated by his "bold" chatter, elected him as our "dad" -president! We must also remember that the GDP did not appear by itself. This "luck" with GDP is a temporary phenomenon, i.e. as long as the interests of those who put him to power coincide, in general, with the needs of the country, then his ratings will be quite high. Unfortunately, we are not yet ready to govern our country on the ground without the help of the "kings". There is still a long way ahead, and the elite (or those who consider themselves to be such) still do not know what country we need to build and how to do it. She shifts from side to side - sometimes she talks about a just social state, then about some kind of liberal capitalism, which only she (the elite) knows about, and tries to fit into the ranks of these liberal capitalists, without giving them power over herself. These attempts so far lead to trampling the country in place and the growth of negativity in the economy. And abandoning planning only further aggravates the situation. Think about who to vote for, or rather what. So far, only on the tsar-father and all hope (at least for an ordinary man in the street). hi
  50. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 21 March 2016 23: 47
    0
    The closer to the grave .. the worse for him ..) The same how many millions he was cursed .. this spotted ..