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Ukraine with the help of the American "Westinghouse" was going to "disperse" the reactors at its nuclear power plants. Experts: "This is Another Chernobyl"

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Last week, the Ukrainian company Energoatom announced that the Ukrainian nuclear power industry is ready to develop in close contact with its American partners. The insatiable desire to develop resulted in the signing of the so-called memorandum of understanding between the Ukrainian company Turboatom and the American Westinghouse Electric, the one that has recently intensified to promote TVS-W fuel elements in Ukraine - fuel rods of their own (American) production.


The promotion of American rods instead of Russian ones would long ago have been declared the next "peremog" of Kiev, if not for one thing. The fact is that after loading the fuel assemblies of Westinghouse Electric, for example, they were destroyed at the South-Ukrainian NPP. This destruction had almost led to enormous consequences in its negative, however, it seemed like it had done well. Temporarily...

To convince the Ukrainian "partners" that the nuclear "peremoga" over Russia is already close, representatives of the American company said that, they say, in an emergency that arose after loading TVS-W, the fault was ... the Russians. Say, these are Russian (Soviet) technologies that have provided such a design of reactors that flexible American rods will “try to take the form that previously deformed cells take.” In general, Moscow was to blame for the deformation of the American rods at the Ukrainian power plant. Well, who else ...

"Klyat moskalyaki!" - Shouted in Kiev and, of course, announced their full readiness to continue cooperation with the American "friends of Ukraine." They say, well, let them "be a little deformed" - a slight democratic deformation will not prevent us ...



It should be noted here that the process began long before the “revolution of hydration”, and after that the process was fairly intensified. And here came a whole memorandum between Westinghouse Electric and Turboatom, which, as reported press office Ukrainian "Energoatom", is as follows:
This is a gradual increase in the power of VVER-1000 type reactors to the level of 110% of nominal (in Ukraine, 13 power units with VVER-1000 reactors). Together with the Kharkov factory "Turboatom" "Westinghouse" announced the support of "Energoatom" in the implementation of such a project.


The president of Energoatom, Yury Nedashkovsky, said that such an agreement was aimed at “ensuring the country's energy security.” Well, of course! Safety first! And to improve it, Americans will help disperse Soviet-developed reactors. With a simultaneous increase in nominal electrical and thermal capacity ... Only one thing is surprising: why, in order to "ensure the security of Ukraine", increase the power of reactors will be "only" by 10%, and not by all 100? ..

By the way, the same Mr. Nedashkovsky, who graduated from the Odessa Polytechnic University in 1983 in the specialty “Nuclear Power Plants and Installations”, and also covered the path from the Crawler of the boiler equipment at the Khmelnitsky NPP to its Director General, adds something else about “productive cooperation "With the American side. According to him, productivity is already paying off - this, in particular, is about cooperation in creating a centralized storage facility for spent nuclear fuel in Ukraine.

From a statement by Aziz Dag, Vice President of Westinghouse Electric, expressing obvious satisfaction with contacts with the Ukrainian side:
Strategic cooperation with Turboatom is an excellent example of how Westinghouse provides its client, Energoatom, with innovative technical solutions to further improve the efficiency and safety of nuclear power plants. We also look forward to working with local Ukrainian suppliers to support the Energoatom project to increase NPP capacity.


In general, the question of whether it is necessary to increase the capacity of reactors installed at Ukrainian nuclear power plants, as well as the issue of safety, is not even worth it. If the "partner" from the United States said: "it is necessary!", Then Kiev responds firmly: "there is!"

In this regard, the comments of specialists in the field of nuclear energy - those who did not fall under the lobbyist influence of the “Westinghouse” or other “friends” of Ukraine attract attention. Valentin Zemlyansky, who is the head of the energy programs of the Center for World Economy and International Relations, expressed his opinion on the implementation of the Ukrainian-American program to increase reactor capacity. According to him, an attempt to increase not only the power of the reactors used at Ukrainian NPPs, but also attempts to equalize the capacity to create a “unified power system” is an extremely dangerous undertaking.

In an interview with the Ukrainian edition “Facts and Comments” Valentin Zemlyansky says that the Ukrainian venture can lead to a new Chernobyl. Moreover, the expert states that if the maneuvering with the reactor capacities will indeed be carried out, then it is worth thinking about leaving the country.

From an interview with an expert:
If they decide to maneuver atomic blocks, I advise you to leave the country. What can happen to a nuclear reactor if we start maneuvering them, we all saw in April 1986 of the year. Then, in Chernobyl, in essence, they worked out the option of maneuvering the reactor. The constructions of nuclear reactors of Soviet construction are not designed for daily maneuvering, it is possible to maneuver, but very slowly and no more than once a year. And not as the ministry proposes to reduce and increase capacity several times a day.


Valentin Zemlyansky believes that attempts to increase the share of electricity generated by nuclear power plants look strange. First, it is necessary to do something with thermal power plants that are already operating in their own system - in particular, to remove their units from the system. Secondly, it is not clear to whom Ukraine is going to supply additional electricity, if it tries to save all the capacities of the power plants, which will require huge investments.

Statements that such steps would reduce the cost of electricity in Ukraine look altogether ridiculous, if only because for an American company trying to settle in Ukraine finally, the matter of first importance is profit growth. And the Ukrainian electricity producers do not intend, spending on changes, to lower tariffs either.

According to Valentin Zemlyansky, in Ukraine today there is no rational approach not only to the issue of electricity supply, but also to the issue of spending money.

Zemlyansky:
Several billion hryvnia was allocated for the development of hydrogeneration, but there is nothing to direct them to, water resources have declined. Meanwhile, thermal generation works at a loss, not being able to upgrade. The atomic generation also has nothing to build a repository for spent fuel and continue the life cycle of power units. The funds would have appeared if, finally, in the Ukrainian power industry market mechanisms had begun to work.


However, market mechanisms in Ukraine so far work only for individual government and business representatives who are ready to turn the country into a nuclear testing ground with an unpredictable result in order to receive short-term profits and meet the Maidan interests.

Ukraine with the help of the American "Westinghouse" was going to "disperse" the reactors at its nuclear power plants. Experts: "This is Another Chernobyl"


That's just Kiev continues to assure that he, you know, everything is under control.

From the message of Energoatom about the status of the introduction of a "new" nuclear fuel at Ukrainian NPPs (on 18 in March 2016) (translation):

As of today, SE “NAEK“ Energoatom ”has completed a significant amount of work on resolving the issue of diversification of nuclear fuel sources to meet the needs of Ukrainian NPP units.

Work on the introduction of the fuel company "Westinghouse" at the power units of nuclear power plants of Ukraine are carried out in accordance with the following main stages:
 
Implementation of the project "Qualification of nuclear fuel for Ukraine" (PCNTU). The executive agreement between the governments of Ukraine and the USA regarding the CPNT was signed on 5 June 2000. The terms of reference agreed 20 June 2000.

The project envisaged the development and supply to NPPs of Ukraine of an alternative nuclear fuel produced by Westinghouse jointly with Russian-made fuel (TVEL JSC) as part of the mixed core loading of the reactor at the pilot power unit No. 3 YuUAES.

In the framework of the first stage of the project, the following results were obtained:

In the NSC "KIPT" a Center for the design of reactor cores (CPAZ) was created, which is staffed with qualified personnel who have undergone appropriate training in the United States. Equipment and settlement programs were transferred to the Center for Main Businesses (ZPAZ), a license was received to carry out the work.

The work was done to substantiate the compatibility of fuel assemblies manufactured by TVEL JSC (Russia) and Westinghouse Company under the conditions of operation of the “mixed core” of power unit No. 3 OP YuUAES.

6 licensed pilot fuel assemblies and obtained a permit for NCRU to test them.

In the period from 2005 to 2010, the pilot operation of 6 TVS-W was conducted during the 4 fuel campaigns at power unit No. 3 of YuUAES OP. According to the results of the operation and inspection 6 experienced TVS-W remarksimpeding the further introduction of nuclear fuel produced by Westinghouse, not found.

A reactor core monitoring system under a mixed core (BEACON) was put into pilot operation.
As part of the second phase of the project, in August 2009 of the year Ukraine was supplied with nuclear fuel (42 TVS-W) produced by Westinghouse and in March 2010 of the year, after receiving permission from the State Nuclear Regulatory Authority of Ukraine, it was loaded into the active zone of power unit No. 3 OP YuUAES. In the active zone of the power unit No. 2 OP SUNPP, nuclear fuel produced by Westinghouse was loaded in August 2011. (...)

24 February 2016 held the 8-e meeting of the operational headquarters for the introduction of modernized nuclear fuel produced by the company “Westinghouse” (TVS-WR) at the power units of Ukrainian nuclear power plants.

2 March 2016 Concluded Agreement confidentiality and non-disclosureowned by the company between Westinghouse Technology Licensing Company LLC, Westinghouse Electric Company LLC, Westinghouse Electric Sweden AB, State Enterprise “National Nuclear Power Generating Company“ Energoatom ”, a separate division of“ Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant ”and CJSC SNPO“ Impulse ”.


That is, now even if an accident happens during tests at Ukrainian NPPs, they will try to keep silent about it. Gives information policy 30-year-old. 26 April 1986 did not teach anything?
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  1. Same lech
    Same lech 21 March 2016 06: 25
    25
    With the help of the American Westinghouse, Ukraine is going to "accelerate" the reactors at its nuclear power plants.


    No matter how we were hurt by the explosion of the reactor .... the law has not been written for fools.
    1. Enot-poloskun
      Enot-poloskun 21 March 2016 06: 32
      37
      The Americans seem to have decided to shoot a new "Stalker". They don't care - America is far away. But where is Europe looking? The wind will blow to them ...
      1. krops777
        krops777 21 March 2016 06: 52
        +9
        But Europe is not up to them now, they would have to sort out the problems with migrants.
        1. silver_roman
          silver_roman 21 March 2016 12: 05
          14
          "experiments" at nuclear power plants will solve both the problem of migrants and the overpopulation of the planet, issues of terrorism and much more. For a while, there will be no time to fool around with ISIS, in Syria, the war may even end. True, this threatens us with huge problems. I would have had a completely serious conversation without the media with our American "friends" (damn them) that in the event of an emergency at Ukrainian nuclear power plants and the subsequent (destruction of the reactor) release of radiation, this would be regarded as a nuclear attack. Everyone understands perfectly well that such an emergency situation is much more terrible than a nuclear bomb explosion. Our people already suffer from rheumatism at the age of 10-15.
      2. 79807420129
        79807420129 21 March 2016 07: 03
        38
        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        The Americans seem to have decided to shoot a new "Stalker". They don't care - America is far away. But where is Europe looking? The wind will blow to them ...

        Europe is watching and the mouth of an American monkey.
        Damn yaki! " - they shouted in Kiev and, of course, announced their complete readiness to continue cooperation with American "friends of Ukraine".

        Well, here’s a joke: In the center of Tbilisi, a high-rise building collapsed, they began to take apart and found out that the skyscraper was built by Moldovans, who were hired by a Ukrainian company for money borrowed from Poland, which Poland re-borrowed from England and England paid the USA for the project of this house, but experts said that Russia and Putin personally are to blame. fellow
      3. mihasik
        mihasik 21 March 2016 10: 21
        +3
        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        The Americans seem to have decided to shoot a new "Stalker". They don't care - America is far away. But where is Europe looking? The wind will blow to them ...

        Not a fact.
        It depends on which nuclear power plant explodes. If Zaporizhzhya, then it will go to Crimea and the South-East of Ukraine and the South-West of the Russian Federation. Well, in general, where the breeze will blow.
      4. guzik007
        guzik007 21 March 2016 10: 31
        10
        The Americans seem to have decided to shoot a new "Stalker"
        -------------------------------------------------- ---
        The Americans finally realized that it was necessary to quietly dispose of the unsuccessful experiment "Ukraine". the specialists calculated that three boilers were not enough to destroy all the kaklov.
        No sooner said than done.
      5. smart Fox
        smart Fox 21 March 2016 16: 06
        +4
        Not to them, but to us, that's what the main thing is. That is why the Americans are trying their best. And Ukrainians, you see, seriously wanted to become "Red Book" animals.
      6. demchuk.ig
        demchuk.ig 21 March 2016 17: 08
        +4
        Quote: Enot-poloskun
        The Americans seem to have decided to shoot a new "Stalker". They don't care - America is far away. But where is Europe looking? The wind will blow to them ...

        Americans for the sake of making money, whoever you want to shut up your throat!
      7. jktu66
        jktu66 21 March 2016 20: 41
        +1
        An experiment with nuclear pindofuel has been going on for 11 years, since 2005 Russia has been squeezed out of the Ukrainian market. And the loser Yanukovych, after all, danced to the tune. And why did they overthrow him ???
    2. Finches
      Finches 21 March 2016 06: 34
      17
      Ukraine is a country with external control! Its bosses are sitting across the ocean and they even wonder if it will explode or not! Money will not explode, and it will explode, all the same, there will be income ... Just think, a certain number of aborigines will die - the Anglo-Saxons have never counted Indians on their reservations! There is one more "plus" - Russia is in the affected zone ... and in general it will be possible to blame her for everything, saying that the Russians did not come up with reactors according to the rules of the entire "civilized" world, so they explode! So for the Yankees, there are only benefits around - that's what worries!
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 21 March 2016 07: 36
        +6
        Ukraine not only has external control, it has a destroyed culture:
    3. gergi
      gergi 21 March 2016 08: 02
      +5
      This is not stupid. This is a well-designed sabotage of exceptional against Europe.
    4. meriem1
      meriem1 21 March 2016 09: 27
      13
      Quote: The same Lech
      With the help of the American Westinghouse, Ukraine is going to "accelerate" the reactors at its nuclear power plants.


      No matter how we were hurt by the explosion of the reactor .... the law has not been written for fools.


      And this is a question of wind rose.
      My mother read this material and turned pale. She worked in the atom ... SPKB IN SOYUZENERGOSCHASTA. In Chernobyl on a business trip, she took a dose. Left without a thyroid gland. Not only that, she’s Proffy ... she also experienced all this in her own skin. It remains tired to shake my head and pray.

      PS And the Americans do not care. America is far away.
    5. crambol
      crambol 21 March 2016 09: 30
      +2
      Unfortunately hooked and very much!
      1. Michael67
        Michael67 21 March 2016 10: 51
        +5
        And how to cure all this?
        It's like that monkey that sawed the bomb.
        They say to her: "Fool! She will explode!"
        - So what? I have one more.
        It is necessary to treat them. To the surgery of everyone.
        Morons, bl..d.
    6. ruAlex
      ruAlex 21 March 2016 11: 04
      +1
      Yes, there is reason to think, I live in the Belgorod region. When will they come to terms then huh?
    7. PSih2097
      PSih2097 21 March 2016 12: 06
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      No matter how we were hurt by the explosion of the reactor .... the law has not been written for fools.

      hurt, you can rest assured, and if this happens at the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant (six reactors), then kirdyk will come to the Black Sea coast and the south of the Russian Federation ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 21 March 2016 14: 13
        +4
        Quote: PSih2097
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        No matter how we were hurt by the explosion of the reactor .... the law has not been written for fools.

        hurt, you can rest assured, and if this happens at the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant (six reactors), then kirdyk will come to the Black Sea coast and the south of the Russian Federation ...

        And I have a question for specialists, if there will be an accident, can it be impossible to create artificial rain directly above their heads so that nothing comes to us? Of course, the thought is still the same, but I also live in the Chernobyl zone.
  2. Observer2014
    Observer2014 21 March 2016 06: 25
    12
    Ukraine with the help of the American "Westinghouse" was going to "disperse" the reactors at its nuclear power plants. Experts: "This is Another Chernobyl"
    I see that Ukraine desperately needs money to make money. Even in such a barbaric way as the new Chernobyl. Country 404.
    It will then howl "daite pennies" to eliminate the consequences.
    1. Esso
      Esso 21 March 2016 10: 25
      +1
      Guys, I’ll tell you more, Washington gave the Ukrainian radicals a command in the event of the appearance of the Russian army to blow up all the nuclear plants in the country and do not care what happens to the people, although Ukrainians themselves are to blame ... This is how this affects us ...
      1. serverny
        serverny 21 March 2016 20: 19
        +2
        Do not worry, if necessary, GRU special forces will work with these comrades. At the same time, great savings will be obtained on ships and the maintenance of prisoners.
  3. saniajan
    saniajan 21 March 2016 06: 30
    +7
    Well, they don’t know how to quickly destroy Ukraine, while blaming Russia
  4. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 21 March 2016 06: 33
    +5
    It's just that statistics show that there are still too many pro-Russian residents in Ukraine. Why not "inadvertently" reduce the population? And not too expensive!
  5. Alekseev-Orsk
    Alekseev-Orsk 21 March 2016 06: 33
    +5
    Come on. They themselves will be irradiated, and half of Europe will be pulled ...
  6. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 21 March 2016 06: 34
    +9
    That is, now even if an accident occurs during tests at Ukrainian nuclear power plants, they will try to keep silent about this. Gives an information policy 30 years ago. April 26, 1986 did not teach anything?
    Why should I be surprised? Who knows, for example, that on March 7 of this year (2 weeks ago), a series of explosions occurred at the Okoni nuclear power plant in South Carolina, USA? Nobody even paid attention. So simple, a few explosions, nothing.
  7. 1536
    1536 21 March 2016 06: 38
    +9
    The cause of Perestroika, Glasnost and Acceleration lives and conquers on earth. But do agricultural firms that have gathered to produce genetically modified products in Ukraine know that their land may be infected? Are shale oil producers ready to sell radioactive oil? About people living there, we are not talking. Nobody has taken them into account for a long time.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 21 March 2016 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: 1536
      But do agricultural firms that have gathered to produce genetically modified products in Ukraine know that their land may be infected? Are shale oil producers ready to sell radioactive oil?

      He knows this, but the temptation has overcome the mind.
      Local plebs will work on contaminated lands and pump oil, and mattresses are planning to sell cultivation and extraction products all over the world, except for the USA.
      Today, more than a billion people are starving.
      So, having rekindled this theme and packed it in beautiful packaging, the mattresses will create any kind of fund to support the hungry, under the auspices of the UN and the direct management of American corporations, in which the whole world will be forced to invest financially to "feed" the hungry. At the same time, they will concentrate all the fund's finances in their hands and will have a guaranteed sales market. To reassure the public, they will show the world the conclusion of "authoritative" scientists that their radiation is not so radioactive and even improves the well-being of the hungry. In this matter, mattresses are great specialists.
    2. mihasik
      mihasik 21 March 2016 10: 35
      +4
      Quote: 1536
      But do agricultural firms that have gathered to produce genetically modified products in Ukraine know that their land may be infected?

      So it will grow even better!) Have you seen any catfish in the channels around Pripyat? Alligators, not catfish! So there will be a universal Ukrainian peremoga: tomato monsters, watermelons the size of a garbage can, cows on eight legs, etc. Everything will be big and many. Tse freebie! And who does not like a freebie?)
  8. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 21 March 2016 06: 39
    +7
    Several fools in a compartment with a fatal coincidence committed a crime in Chernobyl, and now history is repeated only on a large scale. Why are experts silent? because people will die not only at nuclear power plants.
  9. Neophyte
    Neophyte 21 March 2016 06: 40
    +6
    At any cost, in Ukrainian: "anyway, no m ...... th!" The result can be terrible, NPP-4 units.
  10. Mik13
    Mik13 21 March 2016 06: 56
    16
    If they decide to maneuver with atomic units, I advise you to leave the country. What can happen to a nuclear reactor if we begin to maneuver it, we all saw in April 1986 of the year. Then, in Chernobyl, in fact, they worked out the option of maneuvering the reactor. The designs of Soviet-built nuclear reactors are not designed for daily maneuvering, you can maneuver, but very slowly and not more than once a year. And not as the ministry suggests - to reduce and increase capacity several times a day. (c) Valentin Zemlyansky

    The Chernobyl NPP did not work out the option of maneuvering the reactor - neither in fact, nor according to the documents.
    We worked out the possibility of receiving emergency power from the turbogenerator run-off at the moment between the AZ discharge and the start of emergency diesel generators (there is a time gap of about 40-60 seconds until the diesel engines start).

    If expert Valentin Zemlyansky does not know this, then he is no expert. Or just lying.
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 21 March 2016 13: 23
      +4
      Quote: Mik13
      The Chernobyl NPP did not work out the option of maneuvering the reactor - neither in fact, nor according to the documents.
      We tested the possibility of receiving emergency power from the turbogenerator run-out at the moment between the AZ discharge and the start of emergency diesel generators (there is a time gap of about 40-60 seconds until the diesel engines start)

      I conscientiously read the commentary tape - one rubbish blah blah.

      Your first, which is sensible. thank hi
      1. Angler
        Angler 22 March 2016 20: 46
        0
        And to dump the AZ increased the reactor power to 110%, and the AZ itself turned off? A strange way to check, don’t you? Then everything happened due to the incompetence of the staff, both at the planning stage and at the execution stage. I'm afraid to even guess what might happen now!
  11. Sasha75
    Sasha75 21 March 2016 07: 05
    +4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxLh7RShm0A

    I strongly advise you to see an adequate Ukrainian power engineer will tell you that all of Ukraine consumes as much electricity as Moscow will explain about nuclear plants and something about coal, where and how it was sold, how many countries stopped buying electricity from Ukraine.
  12. grandson of the hero
    grandson of the hero 21 March 2016 07: 09
    +2
    It's like in a saying, in spite of frostbitten ears ...
    It’s just that the ears will not end. God sent a neighbor ...
  13. Riv
    Riv 21 March 2016 07: 23
    +9
    Five cents from the technofascist:

    A second Chernobyl in this scenario is certainly not guaranteed. But the likelihood of an accident increases many times over and it is not even a matter of "alien" fuel rods. In the end, the reactor can be accidentally drowned out, and after Chernobyl, adjustments were made to the blocking schemes, as far as I know. The point is different. A global accident can be caused by the failure of any of the small subsystems that have been exploited for twenty years, and the last five years (according to rumors that you believe) have not been properly maintained. Well, for example: any of the pumps on the water supply to the evaporator gets up. There is a backup, but ... what if it doesn’t start, or it starts but doesn’t create pressure? Everyone has arrived. Well, if the emergency protection has time to work, and if it fails too? Well, it's stupid that some operator forgot to flip the lock toggle switch on the shield. Then - hello! Sticking rods in the core is the most fun option.
    1. mihasik
      mihasik 21 March 2016 10: 59
      +1
      Quote: Riv
      Jamming the rods in the core is the most fun option.

      Hello, next, now atomic rake?)
      1. Riv
        Riv 21 March 2016 11: 26
        +7
        Well it is more like Yes. All this is superimposed on a low level of personnel training, which was not very well trained at the Chernobyl NPP either. Actually this is a misfortune not only in Ukraine. Today I come to work, turn on the computer, watch trends. After a minute I say to the operator:

        - Extinguish the burning.
        - What for???
        “Put it out before it's too late, and the acid has not flowed from all the cracks.”

        No time, still flowed. The apparatchik comes, reports: a ton of acid on the landscape. You are late, my dear, with the report ...

        At the same time, I can see from the instruments that everything: the arctic fox wags its tail, but the operator does not see. No, he works fine, is attentive, does not sleep and all that, but ... "I didn't notice the Arctic fox." Moreover, the problem arose, as it turned out, a day (!) Ago, but I was on the weekend, and no one was out of breath in shifts. They thought the thermocouple was dead. Replace? It is not royal business to change the thermocouple on Sunday. Now multiply the consequences by a million and get the effect of the same rotozeism in Zaporozhye.
  14. victorTT
    victorTT 21 March 2016 07: 29
    +8
    I am very worried about Kuznetsovsk. there are fears that the Rovno nuclear power plant will bang. unfounded. and there are not far from Belarus and the west of Russia. if it bangs, then they stop all reactors of this type in ukraine, all railway transport will stop, for almost 100% of railway traction locomotives are electric. and vehicles can get up if there is no current at all in the network because the pumps at the gas stations will not pump fuel from the ground. panic is chaos and there are no ideologically-minded "comrades" who put their souls in Chernobyl so that this radiation does not spread across the earth. there are no longer those who will breastfeed on radiation, defeating fear and panic and lay down their lives for the country for the people. who will eliminate the accident? soldiers? scatter. better than 3 years AWOL than death. Leave it on its own until the fuel burns out completely by itself? Kuznetsovsk worries because there are friends from the country and I know what kind of staff works there. that is, the human factor has not been canceled. almost 100% sure if there is an accident at the nuclear power plant, it will be exactly the Rovno nuclear power plant, the city of Kuznetsovsk.
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 March 2016 07: 33
    +6
    Newly-fledged dill can literally blow up their country, if only to harm Russia. In this case, we can only rely on the fact that the wind will blow for a very long time in the direction of Europe, which actively protects its own and American fosterlings in the guise of a Ukrainian.
  16. sa-ag
    sa-ag 21 March 2016 07: 37
    +5
    "So don't get to anyone!", Something like this ...
    1. mihasik
      mihasik 21 March 2016 11: 07
      +1
      Quote: sa-ag
      "So don't get to anyone!", Something like this ...

      And why have they been jumping for two years already? Visa-free regime and ... bring down, bring down, bring down! Ukrainians do not need Ukraine to hell initially, if they could have dumped the whole crowd into Canada. So shit like the last time. Only here with visas is a bummer. But then bye! Puppeteers truly believe in visa-free travel!
  17. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 21 March 2016 07: 39
    +5
    In order to harm Russia, the world government in the person of the USA and Kiev puppets may even resort to the organization of environmental disasters.
    The atomic bombing of Russia would lead to a retaliatory strike.
    And a catastrophe is a kind of unforeseen, random event.
  18. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 March 2016 07: 41
    10
    Fortunately, it is technically impossible to load American fuel in all reactors of all plants at the same time. The process is not fast. Therefore, as they begin, the result will be received within a year. This (fortunately) will not end with explosions, as in Chernobyl, the design of the reactors is different, the accident will be severe, but local. Most likely, the reactor core will be damaged, to the point of impossibility of its further use, and in the event of the destruction of the assemblies - contamination of the primary circuit, moreover, such as in Fukushima. Block - kirdyk, stations - possible, but not necessary. Well, active manipulations with the reactor power are dangerous if it gets into the "iodine pit", followed by a long exit from it. A nuclear reactor is not a car engine, you can't play with gas.
    1. Falcon5555
      Falcon5555 21 March 2016 19: 43
      +1
      If they were only going to stick American fuel to VVER, then there shouldn’t be an explosion like in Chernobyl. But rivers downstream and groundwater can clog up if everything goes according to the worst-case scenario.
  19. Hooks
    Hooks 21 March 2016 07: 48
    +4
    The development of the native market is in full swing and no one wants to reckon with the consequences. In the event of an accident, all responsibility will rest solely with the Uropian company.
  20. Kenneth
    Kenneth 21 March 2016 08: 13
    +1
    I think we should still wish them good luck. Because if America explodes then it’s far, but we are literally around the corner
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 21 March 2016 08: 39
    +2
    A sad situation is dancing ...
    Okay, there’s an explosion, the employees of the nuclear power plant are not kamikazes, and they’re unlikely to be led to this.
    But to kill the atomic energy of Ukraine with these experiments is quite realistic.
    So that the reactors stall forever. This is a very real ending.
    And if this happens before the winter, then it will be very bad.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 March 2016 10: 55
      +3
      Quote: Zomanus
      Okay, there’s an explosion, the employees of the nuclear power plant are not kamikazes, and they’re unlikely to be led to this.

      Workers, yes. But all sorts of maydanutye-no. And if a sabotage is arranged at such a "non-standard nuclear power plant"? By the way, the work at the Zaporozhye NPP ALREADY has been partially stopped several times, because "something that cannot be crammed in". In the event of a serious accident, the "area" can still be "cleared" from the population and a dump for nuclear waste from all over Europe and the USA can be arranged. The money will be thrown "for disposal", it will be stolen, and so on.
  22. Wolka
    Wolka 21 March 2016 08: 43
    +1
    I’d say it harder, but ... in a word, again, Ukrainian stupid uncles climb where Makar did not drive calves
  23. demo
    demo 21 March 2016 09: 00
    10
    Read the comments and wonder.
    You might think that we live somewhere very far from Ukraine and this will not affect us either.
    First.
    If it swallows, then most of the population of the infected territories will rush to where?
    That's right - to Russia.
    Here you have no problems with the language.
    Here you will be placed, and fed, and heated.
    Immediately the damned Russians and their president are ready to save the stupid.

    Second.
    But we all saw perfectly the example of Chernobyl.
    The country threw huge material resources, both human and technical, to the rescue.
    And then she could not localize everything.
    And Ukraine, what kind of palms will it all plug up?
    And will there be anything to do?
    Fires at tank farms showed the effectiveness of their emergency situations.
    They will wait until everything burns out.

    Okay.
    These are all Ukrainians and Ukraine.
    They are lying - not getting used to it.

    But what does our leadership do?
    Why doesn't it ring the bells?
    After all, today there is the IAEA.
    There are sane people.
    There is an opportunity to raise this issue at the global level.

    After all, you can take a demarche of this content.
    Let the interested companies, the same "Westinghouse", disable operating reactors, dispose of Russian rods, supply and install reactors on which their assemblies can be used, and, good luck!

    And before that, no way there!
    After all, there are instruments of control and protection.
    Look over Iran and the DPRK as barking.
    So they can, when necessary.

    This should be the main issue when discussing emerging issues.

    And for me, I need to use the wisdom of the Russian proverb.
    "God gave no horn to the thirsty cow."
    Not worth this underdeveloped polunation has such a dangerous production.
    1. Mik13
      Mik13 21 March 2016 10: 45
      -4
      Quote: demo
      Not worth this underdeveloped polunation has such a dangerous production.

      Nitsche so application. It’s good.

      I will write to you, dear creature. Recently, I have recently lost the last vestiges of even ostentatious tolerance for the half-rational abomination, which the Nazis are.
      And more than sure that creatures that allow themselves such statements should hang. Behind the neck. This greatly helps to prevent what is happening in Ukraine now.
      1. Corporal Valera
        Corporal Valera 21 March 2016 11: 38
        +4
        Quote: Mik13
        And more than sure that creatures that allow themselves such statements should hang.

        However, to call Svidomo "developed nation", you must agree, somehow the language does not turn. Developed nations will not experiment with nuclear power. Moreover, "underdevelopment", in this case, is not determined by the very fact of birth. It is rather acquired. I don’t even know, probably because of some social mutations. And you can talk about "tolerance" later when, God forbid, tomatoes the size of a watermelon will grow in your garden. So it has nothing to do with Nazism. This is normal indignation at the off-scale degree of cretinism of the ukropatriots. And on the pillars, the Ukrainian nuclear scientists who are lobbying for this project should be hung. hi
        1. Mik13
          Mik13 21 March 2016 17: 29
          -6
          Quote: Corporal Valera
          Quote: Mik13
          And more than sure that creatures that allow themselves such statements should hang.

          However, to call Svidomo "developed nation", you must agree, somehow the language does not turn .... Moreover, "underdevelopment", in this case, is not determined by the very fact of birth. It is rather acquired. I don’t even know, probably because of some social mutations.

          Have you decided to go to the bar? In vain.
          An attempt to attribute the definition of "underdeveloped half-nation" to exclusively Ukrainian Nazis does not correspond to reality. demo in his comment he very precisely wrote whom he had in mind.
          Quote: demo
          These are all Ukrainians and Ukraine.
          They are lying - not getting used to it.

          Quote: demo
          Not worth this underdeveloped polunation has such a dangerous production.

          So the political blowjob to the dead Fuhrer performed by demo I consider credited. In it, maybe the human being woke up. I sincerely hope that he, too, will face the same end as his predecessors.
          Do you also want to express solidarity?

          Quote: Corporal Valera
          Developed nations will not experiment with nuclear power.

          Quote: Corporal Valera
          And the Ukrainian atomic lobbyists who lobby for this project should be hung on the pillars.

          Ukrainian nuclear scientists are quite sane people.
          And American nuclear scientists are experimenting (do you consider them a developed nation?). True, they do it at Ukrainian reactors - which suggests that they are also sane nuclear scientists, but, unfortunately, they are extremely cynical and dishonorable scoundrels. One does not interfere with the other, unfortunately.
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      3. bk316
        bk316 21 March 2016 18: 20
        +4
        Quote: Mik13
        This is very helpful in preventing what is happening in Ukraine now.

        Enough slogans to drive.
        How will contribute to the violation of radiation safety in the event of beyond-design dispersal of reactors hanging demo and even hanging everyone who dared to call ukrov underdeveloped?

        What is proud of the veneration by all nations of the Great Auroras, the reactor itself adapts to emergency assemblies?
        Or will the big-eye be enlightened and be able to operate an abnormal reactor without education without experience?

        If the population of a country is unable to safely operate modern high-risk technologies (and NPPs undoubtedly belong to them), then they must be deprived of these technologies.

        And you will lose the last vestiges of tolerance not now, but together with the entire population of Europe (how unsurprisingly including the Russian Federation) when he (we, you) gets rain on his head. am
        1. Mik13
          Mik13 21 March 2016 19: 17
          -4
          Quote: bk316
          Enough slogans to drive.

          Refrain from your valuable instructions about what I should do, and I won’t say in which hole of your overgrown organism your instructions will be warm and comfortable.

          There is a bit too much lawyers for one soloist in the oral genre. Or do you have a cube of like-minded people here?

          Quote: bk316
          How will contribute to the violation of radiation safety in the event of beyond-design dispersal of reactors hanging demo and even hanging everyone who dared to call ukrov underdeveloped?
          No way. As well as insults on a national basis do not contribute to an increase in nuclear safety.
          But the incitement of ethnic hatred-they themselves contribute.

          I am a Russian man, but I have Ukrainians in my ancestors. And I find such statements offensive to both myself and my family.

          Quote: bk316
          What is proud of the veneration by all nations of the Great Auroras, the reactor itself adapts to emergency assemblies?
          Or will the big-eye be enlightened and be able to operate an abnormal reactor without education without experience?
          If the population of a country is unable to safely operate modern high-risk technologies (and NPPs undoubtedly belong to them), then they must be deprived of these technologies.

          Hmm ... I understand correctly that your conclusion can be extrapolated to all nations and peoples that have outstanding nuclear incidents on their track record?
          Or do you only consider Great-Defective inferior?
          1. bk316
            bk316 21 March 2016 20: 32
            +3
            Quote: Mik13
            Refrain from your valuable guidance on what I should do

            You are calling for violence in your posts, violating not only the rules of this site, but also the laws of this country. Therefore, I have the right and I WILL point out to you the inadmissibility of such actions.
            And the fact that you write these opuses under the guise of anonymity only enhances their abomination.
            Quote: Mik13
            I correctly understand that your conclusion can be extrapolated to all nations and peoples,

            Yes, for many, for example, I can extrapolate to Sudanese or Congolese (although they had no incidents), but only their stations are not located on the borders of the Russian Federation.
            And therefore, in general, anyway, unlike Ukraine, I have not seen you in the world, but I remember the radioactive rain. And I perfectly understand the state of Ukrainian nuclear energy, and most importantly, what it will turn into in years through 5-10 when my peers retire.

            Well, yes, in fact, you didn’t say anything, because it’s not in the subject, and the virtual sofa antifa and the Nazis are equally uninteresting to me.
            1. Mik13
              Mik13 21 March 2016 23: 30
              -1
              Quote: bk316
              You are calling for violence in your posts, violating not only the rules of this site, but also the laws of this country. Therefore, I have the right and I WILL point out to you the inadmissibility of such actions.

              Wow! Rules and laws! How cute!
              Well then, look at the Rules - there is point b)
              And then look into the laws of "this country", as you have deigned to write - and read the contents of article 282 there. You will find the text yourself.

              And so yes. I believe that the Nazis should be hanged. I'm not shy about that. Moreover, he is convinced that he is right.

              Quote: bk316
              And the fact that you write these opuses under the guise of anonymity only enhances their abomination.
              That is, my indignation at the insult on a national basis is "disgusting opus"? Interesting.
              Yes, and about anonymity. Something I did not notice that someone from your branch of the Hitler Youth had personal data. While my profile contains my data, which can easily identify me.
              So abomination - This is a characteristic of your behavior, and you picked up the word yourself, which is typical.

              Quote: bk316
              Yes, for many, for example, I can extrapolate to Sudanese or Congolese (although they had no incidents), but only their stations are not located on the borders of the Russian Federation.
              And therefore, in general, anyway, unlike Ukraine, I have not seen you in the world, but I remember the radioactive rain. And I perfectly understand the state of Ukrainian nuclear energy, and most importantly, what it will turn into in years through 5-10 when my peers retire.

              Whether I was in the world or not during the days of radioactive rainfall, does not at all relate to insult on a national basis. Would you like to express your solidarity with the statement demo? OK, your right. Like my right to believe that the place of the Nazis is on the gallows. No matter what experiments someone is doing somewhere at Ukrainian nuclear power plants.

              Quote: bk316
              Well, yes, in fact, you didn’t say anything, because it’s not in the subject, and the virtual sofa antifa and the Nazis are equally uninteresting to me.

              Well yes, of course. That is why you have been proving to me all evening that the virtual Nazi demo wrote nothing terrible. I understood right away.
              1. bk316
                bk316 22 March 2016 13: 49
                +3
                Quote: Mik13
                interestingly.
                Yes, and about anonymity

                I’m 49 years old, graduated from the Faculty of Military and Mathematics of Moscow State University, served in the ranks of the SA, gun commander, taught at Moscow State University, worked on defense orders in the field of modeling complex systems and on the orders of the Research Institute of Geophysics, for which I became a Lomonosov Prize laureate, married two children, I work and live in Moscow.
                At various forums I take part under the SAME nickname.
                Is that enough? No, please, meet me in real life.

                Quote: Mik13
                Would you like to express your solidarity with the statement demo?

                No, his statements, like yours in form, are unacceptable. What I already wrote about. But his statement is true in essence, Ukraine should be prohibited from carrying out beyond the design upgrade of reactors. Not because the Ukrainian people are genetically flawed as the Nazis and nobody wrote this here.
                But because:
                1. The design life of most power units expires in the next 3 years.
                2. No one in the world has carried out beyond-the-design modernization of reactors without the participation of developers (Hydropress) and manufacturers (Izhora plants)
                3. NPP operators trained in the USSR at pre-retirement age.
                4. The production training base (Balakovo NPP) remained in Russia.
                5. The Ministry of Emergency Situations in Ukraine works very badly (by their own admission)
                6. Experience in the operation, and even more than the modernization of nuclear power plants in countries where there is a civil war in the world is missing.
                7. The vertical of power capable of mobilizing the necessary forces and means is absent.

                All this can be summarized as follows: the current level of development of Ukraine does not allow safe such work. Not a nation, but an underdeveloped state of Ukraine


                So see?
                1. Mik13
                  Mik13 22 March 2016 14: 58
                  0
                  Quote: bk316
                  his statement is true in fact, Ukraine should be prohibited from carrying out beyond the design upgrade of reactors.

                  I don't argue with that. On the contrary, I agree with that. Moreover, judging by some of the statements of "expert Zemlyansky", he is not an expert at all and has mixed something up.
                  In addition, the presence of even the theoretical possibility of such a boost on 110% (even performed by the designers) seems incredible to me.

                  And I had a complaint specifically about the statement of the demo about the Ukrainians as an "underdeveloped half-nation". I think this is Nazism.

                  Quote: bk316
                  All this can be summarized as follows: the current level of development of Ukraine does not allow safe such work. Not a nation, but an underdeveloped state of Ukraine
                  Absolutely.
                  BUT - Ukrainian nuclear scientists did not do this. They are adequate people, and Chernobyl is not far away. Very disciplining.

                  And the company Westinghouse is doing the experiments. They need a testing ground for the operation of fuel assemblies. They pushed through a political decision - no one asked atomic scientists.

                  And the politicians of Ukraine do not care, they cannot live here, they are a hybrid of the occupation administration and the liquidation commission. They will then leave for Canada. As always. They have a "diaspora" there.

                  And to rake - to ordinary people. But as always.
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  24. darksoul
    darksoul 21 March 2016 09: 06
    +1
    read the title of the article and laughed laughing end current is not funny can
  25. sa-ag
    sa-ag 21 March 2016 09: 18
    +1
    Ukraine repeats the fate of Paraguay, it’s not as bloody as it was, but in the Stone Age they drive in the same way, they will then live in smuggling
  26. Begemot
    Begemot 21 March 2016 09: 31
    +3
    Ukrainians are such a nation, they like any kind of radiation (a saying from the time of the Chernobyl accident). Following the example of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, we need an agreement to ban nuclear energy for demented states.
  27. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 21 March 2016 09: 49
    +3
    Westinghouse made its builds similar to ours, so it would be nice to deal with copyright.
    But their square assemblies are not so easy to turn into our hex. The first time did not work. But technically, the issue is completely solvable. What are they working on.
  28. Murad05
    Murad05 21 March 2016 09: 53
    +4
    I remember the "ditties" that arose after the Chernobyl accident:
    On the mountain is a reactor
    A tractor plows under a mountain
    Patro writes in Magate,
    Something with eggs not te.

    Answer from Magate:
    If you don’t have te with eggs,
    Drink vodka, eat crayfish
    Radiation to * crayfish.
  29. Whowhy
    Whowhy 21 March 2016 10: 15
    +5
    A friend of mine worked in the village of Beloyarskaya AS (in OBEP). He told me that shortly before the disaster, a team of our instrumentation and instrumentation adjusters from Beloyarka worked at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The guys complained that they could not even imagine such a mess: from the city side there is a fence and a checkpoint, but on the other three sides there is an open field, at the AU itself no one really knows anything and is not responsible for anything - they were kicked from one to to another boss (no one knew why they were called and what they should do), then, while they were working, assembling some devices in some tunnel, they brought in and unloaded something from the hot zone into the adjacent tunnel. Well, the guys had "pencils" with them (the boss literally imposed them on them before sending them, although they should have given them "on the spot", but "on the spot" they said that they had no extra ones) - they noticed in time that they had already grabbed a healthy dose. .. And this, mind you, was still under Soviet rule - at least some kind of order in the country (at least at sensitive facilities) was somewhere else ...
    So, most likely, they can disperse, perhaps they will disperse, but they won’t be able to stop them in time ...
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 21 March 2016 21: 33
      0
      Quote: whowhy
      A friend of mine worked in the village of Beloyarskaya AS (in OBEP). He told me that shortly before the disaster, a team of our instrumentation and instrumentation adjusters from Beloyarka worked at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. The guys complained that they could not even imagine such a mess: from the city side there is a fence and a checkpoint, but on the other three sides there is an open field, at the AU itself no one really knows anything and is not responsible for anything - they were kicked from one to to another boss (no one knew why they were called and what they should do), then, while they were working, assembling some devices in some tunnel, they brought in and unloaded something from the hot zone into the adjacent tunnel. Well, the guys had "pencils" with them (the boss literally imposed them on them before sending them, although they should have given them "on the spot", but "on the spot" they said that they had no extra ones) - they noticed in time that they had already grabbed a healthy dose. .. And this, mind you, was still under Soviet rule - at least some kind of order in the country (at least at sensitive facilities) was somewhere else ...
      So, most likely, they can disperse, perhaps they will disperse, but they won’t be able to stop them in time ...

      Strange ....
      Here everyone believes that under the Soviet regime everything was perfect.
      Wow. From it ...
  30. engineer
    engineer 21 March 2016 10: 18
    +3
    It is better not to joke with nuclear energy. And why is the ruin extra energy? Industry is being destroyed, and farmers and the Dnieper are enough. Stop the nuclear power plant, as in Europe they do and go to the thermal power plant. Ah, gas is from Russia, that’s the thing.
  31. trantor
    trantor 21 March 2016 10: 41
    +3
    It seems that we followed the path of Erdogan. That refugees blackmail Europe, these will be radioactivity. One thing is bad - these are close by.
  32. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 21 March 2016 11: 44
    +2
    You won't be silent about such an accident, it will be blamed on the actions of "Colorado"
  33. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 21 March 2016 11: 46
    +4
    It seems that there were no specialists trained by Obninsk IATE in Ukraine. And this is a specialized university for the training of specialists in nuclear power plants.
    And in general, when politics begins to crush technology, all crap begins to happen. And this applies not only to nuclear energy. Plus, the general level of technical specialists in Ukraine has fallen dramatically.
  34. iouris
    iouris 21 March 2016 12: 10
    +2
    This is a question for the UN Security Council. There is a criminal neglect of the rules of nuclear safety and national security of many countries.
  35. Alex von Dorn
    Alex von Dorn 21 March 2016 12: 22
    +3
    The states have found a way to "write off Ukraine from the allowance", and even for their money ... Well, the mattresses are cunning, so many Ukrainians are outwitted, this is how you need to be a Jew.
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 21 March 2016 12: 54
      +3
      Quote: Alex von Dorn
      The states have found a way to "write off Ukraine from the allowance, and even for their money ...


      Well, why not sell a good dose of poison to a shabby client if he manages to pay before he dies?
  36. AlexTires
    AlexTires 21 March 2016 12: 57
    +2
    The safety of nuclear power plants is no longer the internal affairs of the Banderstad, it is a threat to the life and health of the population of neighboring countries. The intentions of the Ukrainian authorities to disrupt the nuclear energy production process should be seen as a threat to nuclear terrorism.
  37. CRASH
    CRASH 21 March 2016 13: 02
    +3
    Shitty, shitty that we live nearby.
  38. Eastern wind
    Eastern wind 21 March 2016 13: 04
    +4
    There is no time to explain...
  39. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 21 March 2016 13: 10
    +3
    Why Chernobyl? Wai not Fukishima? We worked on the first one and built the Sarcophagus (praise to the Liquidators of the Chernobyl Accident), in the second, forgive the bolt.
    IAEA where are you in your ear?
    1. CRASH
      CRASH 21 March 2016 15: 58
      +5
      Well, it didn’t rush, but simply, quietly, like someone had ruined the air in an elevator, and so they forgot FFukushima.
  40. alovrov
    alovrov 21 March 2016 13: 20
    +3
    In fact, the explosion of the reactor is the only thing to be wary of from Bandera. Firstly, with the prevailing transport in the atmosphere, radiation can be carried to the most fertile parts of Russia. And secondly, the so-called Ukraine is far from the USSR. Bad people liquidate the accident at the Nem nuclear power plant. Banderlogs will be knocked down in swarms and swearing it will run in the direction opposite the nuclear trail. Who will liquidate? Again Russia?
  41. kukan913
    kukan913 21 March 2016 14: 12
    +2
    The scribe crept unnoticed if everything goes according to a bad scenario crying
  42. Prutkov
    Prutkov 21 March 2016 14: 29
    +4
    By a strange coincidence, this information appeared just in time for the 30th anniversary of the Chernobyl accident. Then the consequences of the accident were eliminated by the whole Union. Who will deal with the liquidation of the accident now? Maybe it makes sense, after all, to remind Europe that Tseurop is now on their support and that an accident at nuclear reactors that have exhausted their resource, but operate in critical modes, on "left" nuclear fuel, will be worse than the crisis with emigrants? The silence of Rosatom in this case is surprising. It's time to ring the bells. What will the Europeans do when, as a result of an accident at a nuclear reactor, "nuclear" refugees from Tseuropa will rush into the EU? I am already silent about the radioactive cloud.
  43. Shustov
    Shustov 21 March 2016 16: 27
    +2
    Quote: alovrov
    In fact, the explosion of the reactor is the only thing to be wary of from Bandera. Firstly, with the prevailing transport in the atmosphere, radiation can be carried to the most fertile parts of Russia. And secondly, the so-called Ukraine is far from the USSR. Bad people liquidate the accident at the Nem nuclear power plant. Banderlogs will be knocked down in swarms and swearing it will run in the direction opposite the nuclear trail. Who will liquidate? Again Russia?

    But there was no need for the special services to skip a hostile regime at their side, they wrote that they needed a pro-Russian president and not a shit with a criminal past who fled at the first naughty. And how does the earth still carry this Yanyk !? If blown up or "exploded itself" correctly, the entire south of the Russian Federation will be in horror. And then some people will regret that they did not help the residents of Donbass quickly at the right time. And the vaunted Aerospace Forces will not help, since the bomb is almost on the border with the Russian Federation and there is no point in bombing. In general, this is a subject for blackmail.
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    2. bk316
      bk316 21 March 2016 20: 34
      +2
      Quote: Shustov
      then some will regret that they did not quickly help the residents of Donbass at the right time.

      Actually, Ukrainian NPPs are not in the Donbas.
  44. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 21 March 2016 16: 45
    +2
    if you explode and all Ukrainians are covered by a poisonous cloud. In no case do not let a single Ukrainian into our territory. I do not care that they all die.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 21 March 2016 21: 39
      0
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      if you explode and all Ukrainians are covered by a poisonous cloud. In no case do not let a single Ukrainian into our territory. I do not care that they all die.

      In general, Ukrainians are the same Russian.
      There are, for example, Pskovs, Novgorodians, and there are Ukrainians.
      That is, you hate Russians.
      1. AdekvatNICK
        AdekvatNICK 22 March 2016 02: 07
        -1
        No, I hate Ukrainians. And you continue to amuse yourself with illusions about some kind of fraternal peoples.
        1. Mik13
          Mik13 22 March 2016 04: 02
          0
          Quote: AdekvatNICK
          No, I hate Ukrainians. And you continue to amuse yourself with illusions about some kind of fraternal peoples.

          Yyyyy ...
          Another natsik ...
          What spring exacerbation? Was health reform so dramatic for psychiatry?
          Or is it acquired, not innate? Maybe the Vlasovites are in the pedigree? Or did the ataman Shkuro's great-grandfather serve? Or great-grandmother .... however, this is the same thing, in fact ... But the result delivers, yeah.
          1. AdekvatNICK
            AdekvatNICK 22 March 2016 08: 27
            0
            Yes you are a deer, just Petrosyan. In the block.
  45. uizik
    uizik 21 March 2016 18: 46
    0
    In case of emergency, what is the radius of the lesion?
    1. tank64rus
      tank64rus 21 March 2016 19: 21
      +2
      I have been working on liquidation of the consequences of the Chernobyl accident since 27.07.86/5/01.87. on 30. XNUMX g. Disabled person of the second group. What will be the radius of damage you ask. At least XNUMX km zone, but the maximum will cover the eastern part of Europe and the south-west of Russia. It all depends on the scale of the destruction and the time of the accident localization. In any case, the US stands on the sidelines and wins. I don't know who will go there in Ukraine now. Let them throw their cyborgs there, maybe they will do something worthwhile in life. It is not for them to beat the cannons in their own cities. I heard that in Ukraine, Chernobyl victims were deprived of privileges. Here Poroshenko and all the others go ahead, otherwise they "save" Ukraine, so soon there will be nothing left there.
    2. tank64rus
      tank64rus 21 March 2016 19: 21
      +3
      I have been working on liquidation of the consequences of the Chernobyl accident since 27.07.86/5/01.87. on 30. XNUMX g. Disabled person of the second group. What will be the radius of damage you ask. At least XNUMX km zone, but the maximum will cover the eastern part of Europe and the south-west of Russia. It all depends on the scale of the destruction and the time of the accident localization. In any case, the US stands on the sidelines and wins. I don't know who will go there in Ukraine now. Let them throw their cyborgs there, maybe they will do something worthwhile in life. It is not for them to beat the cannons in their own cities. I heard that in Ukraine, Chernobyl victims were deprived of privileges. Here Poroshenko and all the others go ahead, otherwise they "save" Ukraine, so soon there will be nothing left there.
  46. AllXVahhaB
    AllXVahhaB 21 March 2016 21: 27
    +2
    Tellingly, "tests" are carried out not on Rivne and not on Khmelnitskaya, but on Nikolaevskaya - if it explodes, then in the South-East. And then rake the din ...
  47. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 21 March 2016 23: 16
    +1
    Quote: silver_roman
    "experiments" at nuclear power plants will solve both the problem of migrants and the overpopulation of the planet, issues of terrorism and much more. For a while, there will be no time to fool around with ISIS, in Syria, the war may even end. True, this threatens us with huge problems. I would have had a completely serious conversation without the media with our American "friends" (damn them) that in the event of an emergency at Ukrainian nuclear power plants and the subsequent (destruction of the reactor) release of radiation, this would be regarded as a nuclear attack. Everyone understands perfectly well that such an emergency situation is much more terrible than a nuclear bomb explosion. Our people already suffer from rheumatism at the age of 10-15.
    I fully agree !!!! Until the LETTERS!
  48. Fastenkov
    Fastenkov 22 March 2016 01: 30
    +1
    A nuclear power plant is a fortress. As much as necessary, so much will keep the siege. So I don’t need to write bogus about the bombing of the stations by the Natsiks. There are a lot of impressionable people with a weak mentality.
    If there is an accident, the mass media will be blamed for Russia as having built unfit reactors (Chernobyl will remember) and because of the attack on Ukraine and the imposition of sanctions against it, which did not supply the necessary fuel. And the United States had to come to the rescue of the fraternal Ukrainian people. Something like this.
    1. wandlitz
      wandlitz 22 March 2016 04: 52
      0
      So it will be.
  49. Air Force Colonel
    Air Force Colonel 22 March 2016 06: 44
    0
    It's like moving a diesel engine to gasoline from a diesel engine. ...
  50. partizan86
    partizan86 22 March 2016 21: 59
    0
    I don’t disperse my computer, because I won’t raise money for a new one, but then not only can’t I collect money later, and there’s a lot more that and whom.
    And are they going to use this fuel, which was once the stuffing of our intercontinental missiles?