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Fresh facets of insanity: The head of Ukrtransgaz is going to "exclude" Russia from the number of gas suppliers to Bulgaria and Turkey through Ukrainian territory

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The head of Ukrtransgaz by the name of Prokopiv again gave reason to reflect on the degree of adequacy of Ukrainian officials. Mr. Prokopiv said that Ukraine intends (attention!) To exclude Russia from the list of gas suppliers to Bulgaria and Turkey. According to the head of Ukrtransgaz, Slovakia can take the place of Russia. Informational portal "Ukrinform" results in a stunning statement by Igor Prokopiv:


Bulgarians and Turks are ready to buy gas in Europe and transport through the territory of Ukraine. Intensive negotiations are underway. We will conduct negotiations with the Slovaks in the first days of April, because we must earn the route Slovakia-Ukraine-Moldova-Romania-Bulgaria and further south, to Turkey, with the possible storage of gas in our underground gas storage facilities. This is the result of the fact that we are becoming operators, the world is getting used to it, our partners are beginning to reckon with us. I think it will be a year that will demonstrate that we are working as a transport corridor of a European country.


Fresh facets of insanity: The head of Ukrtransgaz is going to "exclude" Russia from the number of gas suppliers to Bulgaria and Turkey through Ukrainian territory


The fact that Ukraine is a “corridor” is not in dispute ... But Mr. Prokopov, in his pathetic speech, did not explain one thing to the Bulgarian and Turkish partners: where will Slovakia itself get gas? Or Slovakia suddenly discovered deposits of "blue fuel" ... No, it was not found. And if so, then Prokopiv’s formula looks approximately as follows: Russia supplies gas to Slovakia, while at the same time Kiev is “excluded from the number of suppliers” to Bulgaria and Turkey. Slovakia begins to resell Russian gas to Bulgaria and Turkey through the territory of Ukraine. That is, the gas will pass through the Ukrainian territory twice ...
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  1. avvg
    avvg 18 March 2016 13: 43
    +24
    Zadornov would say - they are stupid! And where will they take gas? And they will take gas from us anyway.
    1. Alexey Z.
      Alexey Z. 18 March 2016 13: 46
      +70
      Slovakia is the world leader in gas production .... and Ukraine is the world leader in gas transportation !! Enchantingly wassat
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 18 March 2016 13: 47
        +15
        CreativeIsm of them is just ...

        (another similar word would be more suitable, but I do not want to be rude)


        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 18 March 2016 13: 54
          +7
          Quote: bulvas
          CreativeIsm of them is just ...
          There is an expression: "step on your own eggs", but here it is on a larger scale. Grandiose ORGAbottom.MOVAnno. They have such ukronatsionnye musical instruments! Operating principle:
          Draw eggs, then lead with a bow. Because the bows have long been turned into a lobard, drank, other objects are used: branches, saws, ...
          Making guttural sounds, this orchestra of great bloods would be able to compete with other equally great tribes that inhabit our planet! At this pace, they will soon reach the intergalactic level! laughing
          1. cniza
            cniza 18 March 2016 14: 56
            +7
            But what are important, without them not how laughing it’s not grass and mushrooms anymore, but something clinical.
            1. ltc22A
              ltc22A 19 March 2016 09: 44
              0
              Quote: cniza
              But what are important, without them not how laughing it’s not grass and mushrooms anymore, but something clinical.

              Psychiatrists in the studio. The patient has delusions of grandeur against the background of taking a shock dose of hallucinogens and smoking dried dill in the 2014 harvest.
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        2. Pereira
          Pereira 18 March 2016 14: 01
          +31
          The scheme is definitely thieves.
          But since the EU countries can participate in this thieves' scheme, it becomes not a thieves, but completely kosher. And they will let down a legal base under it without straining.
          Gazprom will supply gas to Europe, of course, in volumes fixed for many years ahead and at low prices. Consumers will not choose everything they do not choose now. Otherwise, where does the reverse gas physically come from in Ukraine? Not from Norway?
          No one, physically or legally, will be able to prevent the redirection of these surpluses to the south using the gas transmission system of Ukraine.
          Gazprom cannot do anything. He has already tried to prevent the reverse by reducing supplies to the EU. Then he flew into huge fines for short delivery. The media prefer to keep silent about this.

          After they broke up with Turkey, and the Bulgarians realized that after the 18 year they risk being left without gas at all, they will go on this deal with enthusiasm and gloating. They will also present it as sanctions against Russia. And the world progressive public will applaud them.

          In short, this threat should be taken seriously, for it is technically feasible. Banderlogs are close to pulling Gazprom over the very tomatoes. And this may turn out to be exactly the help over Russia that they dreamed about all 23 years of independence.

          I convey my heartfelt greetings to the managers and lawyers of Gazprom, who have concluded agreements in such a way that re-export of our gas has become possible.

          And I also wish wisdom to Lavrov, who now has to somehow stop this potential problem.
          1. Senior manager
            Senior manager 18 March 2016 14: 35
            +6
            There are good things in this whole story. The horses in good faith for double transit will take a good price, the Slovaks will also take their profit and the final consumers, Turks and Bulgarians, will pay for everything. With which I congratulate them. Someone should feed the ruin.
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 18 March 2016 14: 48
              +8
              There is only one positive point here - all the same, gas will be bought through third parties, but from Gazprom.
              Negative Moments:
              Now Turks and Bulgarians will finance the junta
              The Ukrainian gas system will not be dismantled for scrap, as everyone expected, but will continue to function for a long time. And the banderlogs will now perk up, will laugh at our forecasts and malicious suggestions to sell the pipe, and tell each other what stupid dreamers live in Russia. Indirectly, this can turn into additional blood in the Donbass.

              In general, the treacherous stop of the attack on Mariupol comes up to us in a new, unexpected way.
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit 18 March 2016 22: 39
                0
                Yes, of course, gas will pass through Ukraine twice, but you forgot that the entire gas transportation system was privatized long ago and is the private property of several clans. So, nothing will come to Ukraine itself, everything will settle in the pockets of the "shadow" owners of the gas business. Although everyone knows these owners by their names.
              2. ltc22A
                ltc22A 19 March 2016 09: 48
                0
                Quote: Pereira
                There is only one positive point here - all the same, gas will be bought through third parties, but from Gazprom.

                The Ukrainian gas system will not be dismantled for scrap, as everyone expected, but will continue to function for a long time.

                Let's see how they will function after 2017, when the gas transportation agreement ends.
                request
            2. Nikolay K
              Nikolay K 18 March 2016 14: 58
              +3
              Do not be naive, the Bulgarians and Turks will not buy gas more expensive than now, rather cheaper. Profit of all parties at the expense of Gazprom.
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 18 March 2016 15: 05
                +7
                That is, gas will pass through Ukrainian territory twice ...

                And let's offer Ukraine to drive gas taken by reverse from Europe back to Russia, and we will again drive it through Ukraine, but to Bulgaria! The same gas will pass through the territory of Ukraine, already four times! What grandmothers (for transit) Khokhlov swim right in the hands! - Really they refuse? laughing
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              2. Pereira
                Pereira 18 March 2016 15: 51
                -7
                The Bulgarians will have nowhere to go. And the Turks are in solidarity with the Outskirts and in exchange for preferences in other industries. So everything is real.
          2. kapitan92
            kapitan92 18 March 2016 15: 39
            +7
            Quote: Pereira
            I convey my heartfelt greetings to the managers and lawyers of Gazprom, who have concluded agreements in such a way that re-export of our gas has become possible.

            Long-term contracts were concluded. You could have imagined that 15 years ago that Crimea would become Russian and that what happened would happen. "If I knew the buy-in, I would live in Sochi." (P)
            The question is really serious, Gazprom needed to think and make a decision yesterday.
            Much can change in the situation with the privatization of the Ukrainian GTS.
            Kristin Lagarde: Ukraine must privatize the gas transportation system!
            There are IMF requirements for Ukraine to fully privatize the gas transportation system in order to receive further financial assistance from the West. In her letter, Ms. Lagarde reminds the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk of their previous agreements, according to which Ukraine is obliged to complete the privatization of the company managing the Ukrainian GTS. However, contrary to this critically important requirement, the current legislation of the country still leaves a controlling stake in the state.
            View in full: http://politrussia.com/world/kristin-lagard-ukraina-859/
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 18 March 2016 15: 58
              +1
              Here I am about that. When our arms were twisted with a price, were there any reciprocal wishes from Gazprom? I guess not. Instead, they clung to volumes in the hope of preserving the market. Saved with the GTS Outskirts.

              I recall that during the gas wars, when gas supply to Ukraine was stopped, it was considered impossible to deliver gas from storage facilities in the West to Donbass, which was left without gas in winter.
              However, Ukrainian engineers were able to reverse from west to east of Ukraine.
              For Gazprom, it was a bell about its analysts being weak and not everything can be bought. Do not heed.
              I’m not at all sure that the managers of Gazprom are menagers, albeit not patriots of the country, but at least loyal to the country of temporary residence. But I am sure that senior managers of Gazprom will meet old age far from Russia.
          3. KazaK Bo
            KazaK Bo 18 March 2016 16: 06
            +6
            Pereira
            The scheme is definitely thieves.
            But since the EU countries can participate in this thieves' scheme, it becomes not a thieves, but completely kosher. And they will let down a legal base under it without straining.

            Also, without straining, WE CAN DARE CLOSE THE CRANTIK ON THE GAS SUPPLY LINE THROUGH UKRAINE! BASES - PLEASE:
            - According to long-term agreements, the recipient of the gas does not have the right to resell our gas! Otherwise, it will be considered theft. And write off the excess - you can’t write off billions of cubes! So far we are silent about the so-called reverse to Dill from Slovakia, Poland ... WHEREOF! WHAT WOULD NOT ANGRY THE EU BEFORE BUILDING OR NORTHERN FLOW -2, OR SOUTH (TURKISH) ... AND LATER WE WILL BE POSSIBLE OUT OF LOOK ... IN THE COURT! We demand compensation in total over the years.
            - One of the sections of these long-term contracts is the section - FORCE MAJEURE (EMERGENCY) CIRCUMSTANCES ... If DROP excludes us from the list, then we can safely shut the cutter on the gas pipe (and this is somewhere around 50-60 billion cubic meters. m, 23-26% of the volumes consumed by the EU)) THROUGH DROP ... A similar decision by a third party (EXCLUDE US WITH ...) in the form of obstructing actions by a foreign state that does not facilitate the conscientious fulfillment by the parties - signatories ... of the contract, fully corresponds with the clauses of an international trade agreement and relieves one of the parties for non-fulfillment of contractual obligations ... In this case, GAZPROM is forcing the faucet to be blocked off on the pipe .. After that, we will calmly observe how half of the EU production stops in a couple of weeks, and the people a number of countries will pick up the pitchfork ... and explain to the banderlogs how wrong they are ...
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 18 March 2016 16: 52
              -2
              Already tried.
            2. kapitan92
              kapitan92 18 March 2016 19: 00
              +5
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              BASES - PLEASE:
              - According to long-term agreements, the recipient of the gas does not have the right to resell our gas! Otherwise, it will be considered theft.

              If there was a similar clause in the contract, there were no problems with gas reversal. Nevertheless, I will ask you to send a link.
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              So far we are silent about the so-called reverse to Dill from Slovakia, Poland ... WHEREOF!

              Yes, "we" are not silent. Everything that Gazprom can do, within the framework of the signed contracts, is to give more volume than that contracted by the same Slovakia. If the winter is cold, Slovakia turns off the reverse or asks Gazprom to increase supplies in excess of the contract, which ours did not go to in 2014, and as a result, Ukraine bought gas from Russia.


              Quote: KazaK Bo
              - One of the sections of these long-term contracts is the section - FORCE MAJEURE (EMERGENCY) CIRCUMSTANCES ... If DROP excludes us from the list, then we can calmly shut off the gas pipe on the gas pipe (

              Please link to the "studio"!
            3. jaroff
              jaroff 18 March 2016 19: 26
              +1
              And I cannot associate myself with Gazprom. For me, Gazprom is also "they". And we, exactly we, cannot but "keep silent for now", not "close the crack". Pure class approach. And therefore no one will block anything for anyone. They have their own gesheft there, and we are strangers at this celebration of life.
        3. REDBLUE
          REDBLUE 18 March 2016 15: 03
          +1
          DECKERS. UKURKI. Honestly, I’m tired of laughing at this insanity. Everything is somehow sad.
        4. unsinkable
          unsinkable 18 March 2016 19: 03
          0
          Quote: bulvas
          but I do not want to be rude)

          Looking at your avatar, the desire to be rude has also disappeared. good
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      3. Vend
        Vend 18 March 2016 13: 56
        +3
        Quote: Alexey Z.
        Slovakia is the world leader in gas production .... and Ukraine is the world leader in gas transportation !! Enchantingly wassat

        Yes, this is a duck for Svidomo most likely. To Turks and Bulgarians it will cost more. And not a couple of thousand. This duck is from the category of train to China. laughing
        1. Oorfene Deuce
          Oorfene Deuce 18 March 2016 14: 54
          +8
          My reaction to what I read smile
      4. tol100v
        tol100v 18 March 2016 14: 55
        +1
        Quote: Alexey Z.
        ..a Ukraine is a world leader in his

        According to his theft! Houdini and Copperfield rest aside!
      5. Your friend
        Your friend 18 March 2016 15: 56
        +4
        Quote: Alexey Z.
        Slovakia is the world leader in gas production .... and Ukraine is the world leader in gas transportation !! Enchantingly wassat

        If you write this phrase on the censor, without the last word, and varnish all the glory of Ukraine, then your comment will break out in the top of the censor by the number of likes.)
      6. vladimirw
        vladimirw 18 March 2016 16: 24
        +1
        I’m already afraid that the Ukrainians would not dig another sea along our border! hi
    2. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 18 March 2016 13: 46
      +4
      it is said - FROM a pipe. conveniently.
      1. Bacha
        Bacha 18 March 2016 14: 17
        +10
        Ukrainian scientists have denied the fact that gas is supplied from Russia! They proved that gas is extracted from the pipe!)))
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    5. Dym71
      Dym71 18 March 2016 13: 47
      +7
      Quote: avvg
      And where will they take gas?


      But in such a way:
      - Where do you get the money? - In the nightstand? - And who puts in the nightstand? - Wife! “Does she have money from where?” - I give! - And where are you from? - From the nightstand!
      laughing
    6. Samen
      Samen 18 March 2016 13: 49
      +11
      Having dug up again gave reason to think about the degree of adequacy of Ukrainian officials

      Congratulations to Prokopiv with honorary title
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 18 March 2016 13: 56
        +6
        Quote: Semen
        Congratulations to Prokopiv with honorary title
        And prescribe treatment?
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 18 March 2016 15: 50
          +1
          The situation is running, here Haloperidol will not help. It would be necessary to try sulfosine at 4 points. And if it doesn’t help, then there’s only a lobotomy.
    7. The black
      The black 18 March 2016 13: 53
      +4
      That’s what the shelling of Russian diplomatic missions with bottles of iodine and zielonka leads to. laughing ... Iodine in Ukraine is over. But any doctor will say that iodine deficiency can lead to the development of thyroid pathologies and mental disorders of varying severity. The most common iodine deficiency diseases: endemic goiter, endemic cretinism or congenital mental failure... so the result is obvious wassat
    8. marl
      marl 18 March 2016 13: 56
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      And where are they going to gas brother?

      In Russia, where else.
      It’s just not clear why in Bulgaria through Ukraine ... There is a direct route through Hungary to Romania or Serbia ... I looked at the map ...
    9. opus
      opus 18 March 2016 13: 59
      +8
      here
      "Gas Europe!"


      The structure of gas imports of Ukraine in 2013 looks like this:
      JSC Gazprom (RF) - 18 billion cubic meters. m
      Ostchem (Cyprus) businessman Dmitry Firtash - 8 billion cubic meters. m
      RWE Supply & Trading GmbH (Germany) - 1,3 billion cubic meters. m


      or Gas reverse for Ukraine


      The idea of ​​the Germans (and other Europeans) with the reverse and the use of underground gas storage facilities in Ukraine can be understood. In Europe, at the moment there is a conflict - between spot (exchange) prices and long-term contracts with formula pricing. In summer, gas is cheap on a spot - and in winter, especially during peak cooling, it is super-expensive. Therefore, a tempting idea arises: to buy gas in the summer, pump it into the underground storage facilities of Ukraine, store it there for a nominal fee - and in the winter to pick it up from the underground storage and transit it for consumption.


      Norwegians also stir up:
      You can drive gas from Germany to Ukrainian UGS facilities during the warm season, only by receiving it from the shelf of the North or Norwegian Sea and finding a free route from European operators.
      But a curious question arises - who provides the flow of pipeline gas to the European spot market in the summer? Exceptionally valiant Norwegian gas workers! And why? And now they have a peak return of gas fields and you need to have time to sell gas from the sea shelf until 2016-2017, until its cost increases to astronomical heights.

      Therefore, spot prices rule the European market - the Norwegians are happy with them and can safely pump gas. And then - Norwegian gas workers will go north, on the shelf of the Barents Sea towards the Russian economic zone

      Russian-Norwegian treaty on the delimitation of maritime spaces in the Barents Sea and the Arctic Ocean



      1. OlegLex
        OlegLex 18 March 2016 14: 20
        +6
        I completely agree with you, and thanks for the detailed comment.
        You are right that the storage facilities of Ukraine is just that reserve that Europe cannot afford to lose, since they were part of the Energy Security of Europe. Well, about the desire of the Ukrainian minister to get double profits from pumping back there, so what's so surprising? it’s time to get used to it.
      2. tacet
        tacet 18 March 2016 14: 51
        +3
        There are no problems to pump into Ukrainian gas storage facilities. There is only one not significant difficulty - "drying and shaking" of the storage contents.
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    11. Altona
      Altona 18 March 2016 14: 01
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      Zadornov would say - they are stupid! And where will they take gas? And they will take gas from us anyway.

      -----------------------
      Well ... Let's do double prices for re-export. They do not read contracts there chtoli? Looks like a complete confusion does not work. hi
      1. opus
        opus 18 March 2016 14: 38
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        We make double prices for re-export.

        It is hardly possible (in any court you lose).
        "the right of the first night".
        Germany (suppose), paid for gas, received ... and VOLNA do what it wants with it: salt pickle, release into the atmosphere, sell (to whom it wants).
        Threat. Yes, and according to technology, Europe stores (in the summer for sure) gas in UGS facilities in Uraine, and it drives it back and forth constantly.
        And the price tag for Europe for storage in underground gas storage is cheap
        1. Altona
          Altona 18 March 2016 15: 06
          0
          Quote: opus
          It is hardly possible (in any court you lose).
          "the right of the first night".

          -----------------
          Ukraine does not have operator rights, it is just a transit country.
          1. opus
            opus 18 March 2016 16: 29
            0
            Quote: Altona
            Ukraine does not have operator rights,

            Well, it is NOT Ukraine that sells, but Slovakia, Germany.
            And who cares 10e, even if "sells" on paper, and gas does not leave the Urainy UGS facility (we are not allowed there, tsezh Europa is now)
    12. siberalt
      siberalt 18 March 2016 14: 03
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      Zadornov would say - they are stupid! And where will they take gas? And they will take gas from us anyway.


      According to Zadornov, stupid are Americans. But such a definition is already a great honor for Ukrainians. laughing
    13. meriem1
      meriem1 18 March 2016 14: 29
      +2
      Quote: avvg
      Zadornov would say - they are stupid! And where will they take gas? And they will take gas from us anyway.


      Stupid is not Ukraine .. and those who fit into this scheme !!!!!!!!!!
    14. nadezhiva
      nadezhiva 18 March 2016 14: 52
      +2
      Quote: avvg
      Zadornov would say - they are stupid!

      Ukrainians decided to twice receive a fee for transit through their territory wink
      1. igor67
        igor67 18 March 2016 15: 37
        -3
        Quote: nadezhiva
        Quote: avvg
        Zadornov would say - they are stupid!

        Ukrainians decided to twice receive a fee for transit through their territory wink

        I myself wondered how it was, and just typed in Google, it turns out that Slovakia will get gas from Norway and then Ukraine and Bulgaria, before shouting that Ukrainians are stupid, think what this is fraught with for your economy, Do you really think that the chairman gas naphtho thought of it himself. Above on the branch about Norway in great detail
        1. opus
          opus 18 March 2016 16: 39
          +2
          Quote: igor67
          Slovakia will receive gas from Norway and further Ukraine and Bulgaria, before shouting that Ukrainians are stupid think

          You just read it TRUE in "Google" (not ukroSmi, but as in fact)
          1.Not 2014 (2015 a little more) according to the data of European gas transmission operators it is clear that the physical deliveries of Norwegian gas to Slovakia are still small: from October 1, around 5 million cubic meters per day coming from western Germany via CzechYu. According to Kommersant's interlocutors in the market, another 6-7 million cubic meters per day Statoil delivers using swap scheme with the participation of gas of Russian origin (through the Opal gas pipeline)

          Cool (5 million m3) -ISHO HOW ("Slovak, Norwegian and even German" gas?).
          Toko here are the statistics (her figs go around on a Ukrainian mare)

          2015: The capacity of the Uzhgorod-Vojany gas pipeline, through which gas is supplied to Ukraine from Slovakia, will increase from March 1 from 11,5 billion cubic meters to 14,5 billion cubic meters per year, reported the press service of the President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko with reference to the Prime Minister of Slovakia, Robert Fico.
          11,5 million cubic meters were received from Slovakia ("Norwegian" gas .... when Slovakia received 5 million cubic meters from Norway

          On the map, in principle, everything is visible.


          2. The largest German energy companies have contracts with both Statoil and Gazprom. That is, now Gazprom, in order to hinder supplies to Ukraine, it is necessary to limit the gas supply through both the Nord Stream and the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline, which so far the monopoly has avoided.



          For reference (again for 2014, but not the point)
          In summer, Naftogaz received reverse gas about $ 100 per thousand cubic meters more expensive than spot quotes of German hubs. Starting in September, the reverse from Slovakia should come with a lower premium. Now gas in Germany at a spot costs about $ 280 per thousand cubic meters, the November Gaspool futures are trading at about $ 312 per thousand cubic meters.
          For Ukraine, this contract is important ONLY as an instrument of pressure in negotiations with Gazprom, it is economically unprofitable. This is nonsense.
          on the other hand, if Ukraine receives IMF loans (EEC, USA), money, at%, and with the same money (%) pays again for UES gas (and not to Gazprom, Russia). That ...
          That for the EEC, the United States in chocolate, for Ukraine in manure (but this is the fate of future generations)



          March 2016: Naftogaz of Ukraine announced that it will purchase with a loan from the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) 1,7 billion cubic meters of gas at the price of 188-211 (LIE 100%) dollars for 1 thousand cubic meters. “Based on the results of the tenders, NAC has contracted gas at prices ranging from $ 188 to $ 211 per thousand cubic meters”
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 18 March 2016 19: 52
            +1
            Quote: opus
            On the map, in principle, everything is visible

            They attached an old map, Ukrainian Crimea yet!
            1. opus
              opus 18 March 2016 22: 53
              0
              Quote: RUSS
              They attached an old map, Ukrainian Crimea yet!

              + (sorry, I didn’t even look at Tauris)

              That's better? wink

              But I just wanted to show GEOGRAPHY: pull from Norway, and pull from Rostov ...
              to Ukraine.
        2. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 18 March 2016 17: 45
          +1
          Quote: igor67
          what is the danger for your economy


          Nothing at all. How much does Norway produce? How much can Norway produce? EU need? Here's what you need to ask Google. And jumpers are most likely looking for the use of their GTS after the 19th year.
    15. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 18 March 2016 14: 55
      -1
      I think so, Gazprom offered at one time to Slovakia gas prices significantly lower than their neighbors. As a result, the price for Slovakia + the cost of "additional" transportation through Ukraine may still be beneficial for Bulgaria. Ukraine wants to cash in on this.
      1. opus
        opus 18 March 2016 22: 58
        -1
        Quote: Nikolai K
        Slovakia had significantly lower gas prices than its neighbors

        no.

        Netback only (shipping costs)

        According to my schedule, the IMF clearly and clearly shows how we could respond to the sanctions of the EEC.
        Clear, clear and unequivocal.
        1/2 year losses, yes pah.
        The Kaklostan and the Gayobedinenie of Europe would hardly have survived.
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    17. Gora66
      Gora66 18 March 2016 20: 12
      +1
      I would not be so categorical saying that "they are stupid", you have to think of it twice for the transit of the same gas, and even for its storage!
      1. opus
        opus 18 March 2016 23: 40
        0
        Quote: GoRa66
        that "they are stupid", you have to think twice for the transit of the same gas, and even for its storage!

        Whose money is being paid?
        (under what% and who will you return? The stump is not Yaytsenyukh and Poroshenko, jumping and paying, then: country, land))


        Quote: opus
        March 2016: Naftogaz of Ukraine announced that it will purchase using a loan from the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD) 1,7 billion cubic meters of gas at a price of 188-211 (LIE 100%) dollars for 1 thousand cubic meters. “Based on the results of the tenders, NAC has contracted gas at prices ranging from $ 188 to $ 211 per thousand cubic meters”
  2. RUSS
    RUSS 18 March 2016 13: 45
    +4
    I applaud while standing!
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 18 March 2016 13: 53
      +14
      Quote: RUSS
      I applaud while standing!
    2. sever.56
      sever.56 18 March 2016 13: 54
      +5
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2016/499/lubg694.png

      In addition to wild laughter, this little idea, which has come to the head of the "alternative-smart" Prokopiv, can cause nothing !!! wassat
    3. Observer2014
      Observer2014 18 March 2016 13: 54
      +9
      To be honest, I don’t even have words. I just sit reading the article for the third time, laugh and cry with laughter. This is it! You don’t even know where to start typing!
      "Bulgarians and Turks are ready to buy gas in Europe and transport it through the territory of Ukraine."
      All! Time out for today.
  3. Magic archer
    Magic archer 18 March 2016 13: 45
    +9
    It’s time to exclude Ukraine from the list of consumers of Russian gas, oil and other things! Cut it off completely. Close the border. Freeze all Ukrainian accounts and close all enterprises in the Russian Federation. What then will they sing ?!
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 18 March 2016 14: 20
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      It’s time to exclude Ukraine from the list of consumers of Russian gas, oil and other things! Cut it off completely. Close the border. Freeze all Ukrainian accounts and close all enterprises in the Russian Federation. What then will they sing ?!

      Well, what will they sing? Traditionally, Russia is an aggressor. No other texts have been written for them.
      It is not important. I’m interested in something else.
      Their GTS is already quite worn out and requires decent investments in order to fulfill the transit function. They have no money. We need investments to modernize from the outside, or we need a new owner who will buy this gas transportation system and bring it to a normal state.
      However, as stated by Russia, since 2019 we have not considered durkaina as a transit country and are not going to extend transit contracts with it.
      Question; -Who needs an empty pipe without gas?
      Therefore, there is no fool who can buy hydraulic structures from dill.
      But there is a mattress interest, in that the pipe would still remain in working condition, because in the Ivano-Frankivsk region there are shale gas deposits that are in the field of view of the Biden family, and therefore not by washing, so they will find a merchant on the gas transportation system until 2019, i.e. until the end of transit contracts and they will offer Gazprom to extend the contracts under the guarantees of the new owner.
      This raises a logical question; -And what kind of horseradish dill there decide the topic, to be a supplier to Russia through their territory or not to be when they themselves will not have anything to do with the pipe?)))
      1. opus
        opus 18 March 2016 23: 45
        0
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Traditionally, Russia is an aggressor. No other texts have been written for them.

        Well, to confirm. In my memory, Parashenko 10 OFFICIALLY called Russia the country-aggressor, about the war with Russia about 6 times, around the world.
        Yaytsenyuh, 15 times said.
        The Verkhovna Rada is the same no less, everyone is talking about war and the aggressor.
        The embassy (ours) was bombed 2 or 3 times, Russian property too.
        WHY "do not bellow, do not calf"?
        1. The embassy to recall, how did he kick out ALL of us (the embassy and guests)
        2. Close the border
        3. Do not supply gas, gasoline, oil, electricity.
        4.ZHD to terminate.
        5. For any attempt to fart towards our border, respond with artillery fire and bombing (we were shot at 5 times)
        6. Get out of PACE and the Council of Europe (let Erdogan take our place)
        7. Terminate all "reduction" agreements
        well and so on
        8.
        9.
  4. salad
    salad 18 March 2016 13: 47
    +3
    All according to Lavrov! I have no words! every single day new button accordions from UKRSMEKHOPONORAMA! wassat
  5. EvgNik
    EvgNik 18 March 2016 13: 48
    +5
    Each other's projects are stunning. And what can you do if the Earth’s axis passes through Ukraine (by the way, it leaves it). I give this idea to restless and inquisitive Ukrainians.
    1. Altona
      Altona 18 March 2016 14: 03
      0
      Quote: EvgNik
      Each other's projects are stunning. And what can you do if the Earth’s axis passes through Ukraine (by the way, it leaves it). I give this idea to restless and inquisitive Ukrainians.

      -------------------
      With a magnetic pole, you see the same garbage. "Plus" and "minus" seemingly clashed together and such "turbulence" began. laughing
  6. lis-ik
    lis-ik 18 March 2016 13: 49
    +1
    So, almost literally, the cook begins to rule the state. Damn, it looks like there are no 4 classes of church parish school there!
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 March 2016 13: 50
    0
    What are they eating there? Up to this stage of stupidity one still has to guess. In the course of adequate in ukrokakli no one! laughing
  8. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 18 March 2016 13: 50
    0
    As the gas pipe in Ukraine is empty, Ukrainians will have toilets of the toilet system instead of pumping pumps in the colors of the national flag ...
  9. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 18 March 2016 13: 50
    +4
    When will we finally exclude this "Field of Miracles" from the oil and gas transportation scheme?
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 18 March 2016 14: 09
      +1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      When will we finally exclude this "Field of Miracles" from the oil and gas transportation scheme?

      Someday we will recall this as a nightmare ridiculous dream, I hope, in the foreseeable future
  10. earrings07
    earrings07 18 March 2016 13: 51
    +1
    You read the news - how do you watch a comedy series fellow
  11. Masya masya
    Masya masya 18 March 2016 13: 53
    +4
    Europe- Ukraine- Europe, do not think that one link is superfluous?
  12. Symarokov897
    Symarokov897 18 March 2016 13: 56
    +1
    Yes, no one on such nonsense will not lead ....
  13. Rokossovsky
    Rokossovsky 18 March 2016 13: 56
    +1
    God, what the fuck they are! There are no words ...
    this is the result of us becoming operators

    the world gets used to it

    And finally, the most enchanting:
    our partners begin to reckon with us
  14. old crutch
    old crutch 18 March 2016 13: 56
    +3
    to store your purchased gas in the territory of poor crooks--. let goats in the garden.
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 18 March 2016 14: 07
      +2
      Quote: old crutch
      to store your purchased gas in the territory of poor crooks--. let goats in the garden.

      Citizens! Store your gases in Ukrainian storages !!! laughing
  15. shadow
    shadow 18 March 2016 13: 57
    0
    In naphtha gas, bright heads sit. Are they sniffing gas there? To bring a match and light up oh.
  16. ivanych
    ivanych 18 March 2016 13: 58
    0
    ... a joke, and more.
  17. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 18 March 2016 14: 02
    0
    Supply girls better!
    You don’t need it anyway, now you are
    tolerasts euvrotpeysky!
    And wait for deliveries in 404 - Chinese artificial fat !!!
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 March 2016 14: 02
    0
    These are Ukrainians, they can do that. They are just the moment
    that the price for this "European" gas will be determined by
    Gazprom at the time of the sale of gas to Slovakia.
    And then yes, Gazprom will no longer affect transit.
  19. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 18 March 2016 14: 02
    +8
    The head of Ukrtransgaz is going to "exclude" Russia from the list of gas suppliers to Bulgaria and Turkey through the Ukrainian territory
  20. AlexTires
    AlexTires 18 March 2016 14: 04
    +1
    Ingenious! Khloptsi decided to make a visa-free regime for themselves by putting on gas masks and crawling through large-diameter pipes along the route Ukraine - Moldova - Romania - Bulgaria. Well done, do not forget to put out the bull-calves! lol
  21. Mercenary
    Mercenary 18 March 2016 14: 05
    0
    If Miller, as befits a peasant, will keep his word and from 3019 cease to drive gas through Ukraine into a geyropa, then we’ll see where the tongues shove the reluctants, or rather, whose poop! laughing
  22. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 18 March 2016 14: 05
    +1
    Ukrainians must understand that in this case, the transit fee will be zero.
  23. magician
    magician 18 March 2016 14: 06
    0
    wonderful peasant children! fellow
  24. Russia
    Russia 18 March 2016 14: 06
    +1
    Bulgarians and Turks are ready to buy gas in Europe and transport through the territory of Ukraine. Intensive negotiations are underway. We will conduct negotiations with the Slovaks in the first days of April, because we must earn the route Slovakia-Ukraine-Moldova-Romania-Bulgaria and further south, to Turkey, with the possible storage of gas in our underground gas storage facilities. This is the result of the fact that we are becoming operators, the world is getting used to it, our partners are beginning to reckon with us. I think it will be a year that will demonstrate that we are working as a transport corridor of a European country.


    However, the "klitschko syndrome" in / in Ukraine is an infectious thing. It mainly affects the filling of the upper body of the ukrochinovniki, called by the people "Square" - Mizki. laughing
  25. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 18 March 2016 14: 07
    0
    "Need for invention is cunning" - a saying.
  26. BOB044
    BOB044 18 March 2016 14: 15
    +1
    Your deeds are wonderful, Lord. This country cannot be cured anymore. hi
  27. Hooks
    Hooks 18 March 2016 14: 18
    0
    This sly head of ukurtransgaz is going to receive a disability pension on his head. Here is the "material evidence" and forms: here are the statements, here you are, the interview ... What is the conclusion of MSEC.
  28. Simoom
    Simoom 18 March 2016 14: 19
    +2
    It's time for Russia to impose a complete embargo on trade with Bandera's Ukraine and close its borders. Russia is not obliged to feed the Bandera pigs and provide them with jobs. As for the EU, it is time to include in the contracts a clause under which the EU has no right to sell Russian gas to Ukraine. If the EU does not want to build Nord Stream 2, let it be fired with coal , and Russia should reduce transit through Ukraine and stop completely. Enough to endure the antics of Bandera thieves.
  29. siberalt
    siberalt 18 March 2016 14: 31
    +4
    The author correctly noted the variety of facets of insanity of Ukrainian politics.
    I will give an example of another facet of those.
    Somehow, in one of V. Solovyov’s programs, a certain Vadim Karasev (truly Svidomo) started talking about the world economy. “And what is your education,” the host asked him. - Higher political science, the guest answered proudly. “Then it’s clear, it means no,” Soloviev summed up. laughing
    Maidan's song rooster!

  30. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 18 March 2016 14: 36
    +4
    It’s a shame for the state how much you can endure all this Ukrainianism and EU-abortions.
    Gazprom is a state-owned company and must serve the interests of the state, not the interests of company managers.
    Europe does not need gas; there is nothing to spend money on pipelines: the Nord Stream is underloaded, the South has been abandoned, Ukraine demands not to supply Russian gas to Bulgaria, it is proud that it will do without Russian gas.
    Not needed, then not needed.
    Let Gazprom gasify the country's regions. Gas supplies through Ukraine cease-force majeure, the Russian Federation declared the aggressor. The rest of the concluded contracts should be performed in the declared volumes.
    Why should Russia strengthen the economy of its opponents, which are the EU, Ukraine? Do not need a cheap pipeline, let them buy an expensive liquefied one. Less money will remain on NATO expansion.
    From such a policy of the Russian Federation, gas prices will only increase. The same money for a smaller amount of gas supplied.
    The development of production without energy is impossible, there will be gas, the regions will develop, the resources that today go into waste will be used, polluting the environment. Russia itself can produce goods that today is supplied in large volumes by China itself, this includes employment, taxes and stimulation of domestic demand.
    Honestly, I'm tired of how we are being tricked by everyone today. Let them themselves suffer from their ambition.
  31. Appraiser
    Appraiser 18 March 2016 14: 36
    0
    All of them should be sent for compulsory treatment in "Kashchenko". It remains only to add "insanity grew stronger, the vessels bent, and the roof was slid down" ..... lol
  32. SMikhalych
    SMikhalych 18 March 2016 14: 40
    +2
    That is, gas will pass through Ukrainian territory twice ...

    Indeed, when the crest was born, the Jew burst into tears ... wassat
  33. starschina
    starschina 18 March 2016 14: 41
    +2
    Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is how much you can read all this muddy ????????????? 7 yes let them get polluted there to the chirvin suburb !!!
  34. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 18 March 2016 14: 44
    +3
    Do not pay attention to these ukroartistov. Europeans bought gas from Russia, on the border of Ukropia and Russia received, paid, and then as they want - at least in the oven. even in the ass.
  35. VP
    VP 18 March 2016 14: 46
    +1
    There is no insanity, there is hohlism.
    Why does Ukraine prefer to buy gas from us not directly but through Slovakia?
    The answer is simple: because ours pay for transit to Slovakia, if they delivered Khikhlam directly, nothing would be paid for transit.
    So it is here - they want to charge us for transit to Slovakia, then from Slovaks for transit through them to Romania. For transit from us it would be less penniless than for transit from us + for transit from Slovaks.
    1. igor67
      igor67 18 March 2016 16: 42
      +1
      Quote: VP
      There is no insanity, there is hohlism.
      Why does Ukraine prefer to buy gas from us not directly but through Slovakia?
      The answer is simple: because ours pay for transit to Slovakia, if they delivered Khikhlam directly, nothing would be paid for transit.
      So it is here - they want to charge us for transit to Slovakia, then from Slovaks for transit through them to Romania. For transit from us it would be less penniless than for transit from us + for transit from Slovaks.

      Uraina has been receiving gas from Slovakia for more than a year, and by the way Slovaks consider SP 2 a threat to Europe, the largest gas storages in Europe were built under the Soviet Union,
  36. Colleague
    Colleague 18 March 2016 14: 51
    0
    Insanity was strong
  37. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 18 March 2016 14: 51
    0
    They went already, with their schizoid antics into the hole in the tree, tired! Maybe something new about weapons? Who will throw an article?
    1. Simoom
      Simoom 18 March 2016 17: 46
      +1
      There is something. Here is an article about the new universal hypersonic missile Zircon. Testing of the new missile has begun.http: //rusvesna.su/news/1458272363
  38. Senior manager
    Senior manager 18 March 2016 14: 55
    +2
    Very interesting is the ending of this creep of horses. Save for memory. It’s not even a kindergarten or we’re all short-sighted here, Rabbit at one time called the prices at which Russia would sell gas to Ruin, we laughed and resented on the site, and after a while we sold gas at the announced price, but all because the Rabbit came from I knew about the fall in oil prices to which the gas price was tied. Wait and see. He laughs well who laughs without consequences.
  39. bannik
    bannik 18 March 2016 15: 30
    +1
    The key point of this initiative is "the possibility of storing gas in underground gas storage facilities in Ukraine ..." !!! Don't worry Gayrope, we don't lose anything, well, you know yourself!
  40. KRIG55
    KRIG55 18 March 2016 15: 33
    0
    This is all clear. This morning I looked at what is happening in the Rivne region where amber is mined at Stakhanov's pace. Chicago of the 30s is crying. Immediately the thought arose - do not laugh at their idea to build a fence (the "wall" project), but urgently need help. amber and everything else, if only to consume tends to end and then they will go to us ...
  41. Russian20
    Russian20 18 March 2016 15: 49
    0
    W and h, mowing ranks U to r about p about in - quickly and confidently !!!!
  42. Ros 56
    Ros 56 18 March 2016 18: 13
    +1
    It is necessary to launch SP-2 as soon as possible and enter into any commercial relations with these nerds. And to the Slovaks to put a condition or let drown with wood.
  43. Arkan
    Arkan 18 March 2016 22: 21
    0
    Fresh facets of insanity: The head of Ukrtransgaz is going to "exclude" Russia from the number of gas suppliers to Bulgaria and Turkey through Ukrainian territory
  44. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 18 March 2016 22: 37
    0
    they will play with RUSSIA daisy will not be
  45. izGOI
    izGOI 19 March 2016 02: 07
    0
    I can already imagine how the theft of "Slovak" gas will begin in the cold winter
  46. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 19 March 2016 10: 02
    0
    Anecdote in the topic:
    - Where do you get the money? - In the nightstand? - And who puts money in the nightstand? - Wife! “Does she have money from where?” - I give her! - And where are you from? - I'm taking it from the nightstand!