Demchishin: the price of gas for Ukraine in the second quarter will remain the same - about $ 170

Ukraine plans to import gas from Europe in the 2 quarter at prices ranging from 160 to 170 dollars for 1 thousand cubic meters, reports Look with reference to the head of the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine Vladimir Demchishin.

“The price will be in the same range. We buy somewhere in the range of 160-170 dollars for 1 thousand cubic meters, I think that for now this is an adequate price, ”the minister told reporters.

At the same time, he confirmed the recent statement by the head of Naftogaz, Kobolev, that Kiev does not plan to buy gas in Russia.

The newspaper reminds that by the end of March an agreement on the so-called “winter package expires, according to which Ukraine has the right to buy natural fuel from Russia. This agreement was initialed by both countries through the mediation of the European Commissioners in September 2015. However, having bought the required volume of gas (for $ 540 million), due to the parties, Kiev in November stopped the purchase.

At the same time, Ukraine continues to buy reverse gas in the EU, trying to convince the public that it costs it much cheaper.

Comments

[avvg]

Let them hope in the West. In the West they were already sent in three letters and told to wait 25 years.

[Lord of the Sith]

For the first and last time, the EU paid gas for Ukraine in August in the amount of 500mn. Euro. They won’t give it anymore.

Separately, according to the situation in the DPR.
We have here from February 25 to the present day heavy fighting for the Yasinovatskaya denouement is going on. I will try to compose and make a Summary from the "Magician". I am posting short summaries in the militia group and in Chervonets's blog.

[Vend]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

For the first and last time, the EU paid gas for Ukraine in August in the amount of 500mn. Euro. They won’t give it anymore.

We'll see. If you are right it will be good. However, won’s lose the sanctions to the West, but they continue the sanctions policy, to the detriment of their own economy.

[Baikonur]

Yeah! I also think that Europe once a half-lard maslanula, as a sign of the type of solidarity! This is not the situation today. And they already understand that these drug addicts immediately after the first time can sit tight on the neck

Quote: Demchishin:

gas price for Ukraine in the second quarter will remain the same - about $ 170

I think for the people he deliberately missed such words as: "I hope" or "I really want to"!

[Bacha]

It was exactly on paper, but they forgot about the ravines ... And the West, at what price does it buy gas to resell to Ukraine like that for free? For example, you bought 10 kilos of potatoes for 20 rubles, a neighbor came, asked to sell a couple of kilograms, and you sell them for 5 rubles, nonsense! So this is empty Svidomo bravado.

[Vladimir 23rus]

Why not. While the outskirts are sitting on the European pipe, they are forced to sell "potatoes" at least at the price they buy. It is not for nothing that Nord Stream 2 has stirred, oh, not in vain.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: Wend

sanctions to the west at a loss, but continue the sanctions policy, to the detriment of their own economy.

According to the principle "In spite of my grandmother, I will frostbite my ears." It can be otherwise - I'll knock out my eye, let my mother-in-law have a son-in-law!

[RUSS]

Quote: Sith Lord

heavy fighting for Yasinovatskaya

What do you think heavy fights?

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: RUSS

What do you think heavy fights?

Heavy - for many hours, with the use of all weapons from small arms to heavy artillery and tanks, with losses for both sides.

[RUSS]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Quote: RUSS

What do you think heavy fights?

Heavy - for many hours, with the use of all weapons from small arms to heavy artillery and tanks, with losses for both sides.

That is, there are tank breakthroughs, shelling from the MLRS and artillery? And how numerous are the losses (approximately)?

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: RUSS

That is, there are tank breakthroughs, shelling from the MLRS and artillery? And how numerous are the losses (approximately)?

Tank dueling and tank shelling, MLRS rarely, about a couple of packages in a few days. Arta works from morning until late at night. Artillery militia rarely works, mostly in the evening.

Ukrainians until 150 300s, 32 200s. Militia from 70 to 100 300 and 21 200th. The militia recaptured the holiday village and the industrial zone.

[RUSS]

Quote: Sith Lord

Tank dueling and tank shelling, MLRS rarely, about a couple of packages in a few days. Arta works from morning until late at night. Artillery militia rarely works, mostly in the evening. Ukrainians until 150 300s, 32 200s. Militia from 70 to 100 300 and 21 200th. The militia recaptured the holiday village and the industrial zone.

In general, positional battles continue.

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: RUSS

In general, positional battles continue.

No, from February 25, Ukrainians occupied the neutral zone and began to shell civilian vehicles on the Donetsk-Gorlovka highway. The militia began to squeeze APU out of the dacha village and industrial zone, completely freeing the territory from ukrov in a week.

Or did you expect tank breakthroughs and cavalry strikes on the flank? No, this will not happen. the same battles were a year ago near Debaltseve, when the enemy was slowly squeezed out on important sections of the front.

[RUSS]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Quote: RUSS

In general, positional battles continue.

No, from February 25, Ukrainians occupied the neutral zone and began to shell civilian vehicles on the Donetsk-Gorlovka highway. The militia began to squeeze APU out of the dacha village and industrial zone, completely freeing the territory from ukrov in a week.

Or did you expect tank breakthroughs and cavalry strikes on the flank? No, this will not happen. the same battles were a year ago near Debaltseve, when the enemy was slowly squeezed out on important sections of the front.

I don’t expect anything, especially cavalry.
I just notice in your comments not always clear definitions and some kind of "embellishment" of the situation. For example, in my understanding, "heavy fights" are fights at the Battle of Stalingrad, etc., you have exchanges of shelling every day (according to you and Basurin), although no ... Basurin declares that shelling is only from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the terrorist battalions. So, heavy fighting and positional clashes, but in fact the exchange of shelling are two different things, to put it mildly.

[Lord of the Sith]

Quote: RUSS

these are the battles at the Battle of Stalingrad, etc., every day there (according to your words and Basurin) there are exchanges of shelling, although not ... Basurin says that the shelling is only from the side of the Armed Forces and the Terrbats. So heavy fighting and positional clashes, but in fact an exchange of shelling are two different things, to put it mildly.

Say nothing, that is, in Chechnya in both wars and in 2008 in South Ossetia there were no battles, and even more so, huh? After all, they also did not reach the Stalingrad. I understand you correctly? I understood your idea from the first question asked in the style of a troll. That's why I joked about cavalry, you understand that wars have changed, shelves with a drum will not go on machine guns. IL as in domestic. We have losses of up to three hundred on both sides, is it you seeds or something? Or do you hope here will be chopped up with several dozen burnt tanks? And raising regiments with a banner to attack? no, this will not happen, assault teams of 20-30 people work with the support of a couple of tanks at a front 1 km wide and so on along the front. Sometimes a battery of 6 barrels is connected, yesterday three batteries worked twice for 30 minutes.

[RUSS]

Quote: Sith Lord

Say nothing, that is, in Chechnya in both wars and in 2008 in South Ossetia there were no battles, and even more so, huh?

Were in the Caucasus and in the Donbass were, but not now.

Quote: Sith Lord

I understood your idea from the first question asked in the style of a troll.

Troll style? The question I posed to you seems correct to me, you didn’t like it, so you accuse me of trolling.

Quote: Sith Lord

We have losses of up to three hundred on both sides, is it you seeds or something?

You are not a reliable source, alas.

[Lord of the Sith]

I described the situation to you as a witness who lives here and works with the militia in close contact, I collect a daily summary by calling friends and acquaintances from various units. Which are just found there in positions near Avdiivka. I double-check the information and collect a complete summary. For you, according to your words, there are not heavy battles here, as you yourself put it "during the battle for Stalingrad, etc." And I tell you again, there are shelling every day, and there are battles, like the liberation of the airport or the battles for Marinka. Or if we have not an operation in which several hundred thousand soldiers from both sides are involved, then this is no longer heavy fighting? Wars are different now. He doesn't like the source ... Bohm is not heavy. What to put 10 thousand here and you will be happy then? As you are annoying me, they sit there for 1000 km and argue whether the battles we have here are heavy or not. The day before yesterday there was a battle that lasted 7 hours, we have losses of 21 wounded and 8 dead, ukrov 48 killed and wounded, I don’t know more precisely. Tell the soldiers of the 4th company whether their battle was hard or not.

[Lelek]

Quote: Sith Lord

Lord of the Sith

Sergey, thanks for the info. Do not be offended by RUSSA, he just spilled hot coffee on his pants at that time, and that's boiling.

[RUSS]

Quote: Lelek

Sergey, thanks for the info. Do not be offended by RUSSA, he just spilled hot coffee on his pants at that time, and that's boiling.

There is a lot of conflicting information from Donbass, so "trust but check", I mean that both Russian TV and Ukrainian TV do not always present news objectively and truthfully, especially Ukrainian TV is a separate song altogether. Regarding the "Lord of the Sith", well, in general, I feel closer to the Jedi , but seriously, no offense, I don’t know you, therefore I can’t know how true and objective your infa from Donbass is ......

[RUSS]

Quote: Sith Lord

. He does not like the source.

Like it’s not like this is not the case, the question is the truth, well, or at least close to it.

[Lelek]

Quote: Sith Lord

Heavy - many hours

Hey.
What, "Bandera" tightly fit into neutral? If so, where are the OSCE sentinels looking? Chuika suggests they will trample the U.K.R.O.P. and they are about to, on the orders of Gunpowder or not, but they will trample. Watch out, men.

[cniza]

Sages, let's see what they sing after the 19th year, if they exist before.

[Major Yurik]

In general, I don't understand why this "transit" of our gas is for us! He steals gas, does not buy it, gathers whiners against Nord Stream 2 and, in general, yells at all corners that it is bravely fighting with Russia for the third year! I am not tired of supplying our gas through this stinking puddle called dill and making excuses to everyone!

[Lelek]

Quote: Major Yurik

Not tired yet through this stinking puddle, called dill, to supply our gas and also to justify ourselves to everyone!

For a long time he offered to put the gas pipeline for repairs for an indefinite period due to the emergency condition. Now the Nord Stream pipeline is operating at 60% - to bring it up to 100% and calmly lay the 2nd string (there is an agreement).

[gg.na]

Quote: Lelek

It has long been proposed to put the pipeline for repair for an indefinite period due to the emergency condition.

We must also push this idea to the very top! Let them already remember it in tight mode !!! I support you. The gas pipeline can be repaired for an extremely long time !!! And run the north to 100%!

[Coconut Tima]

Quote: avvg

Let them hope in the West

The Ministry of Economic Development of Ukraine reported that the average price of gas from Europe in December was $ 236

[zanoza]

Quote: Tim Coconuts

from Europe in December was 236 dollars

Speaking of $ 160-170 (???), they say about the cost of pure gas. And taking into account transportation and other bells and whistles, the amount received is completely different. Petruha and that from a hangover admitted that they take from the EU more expensive than Russian.
They lie to themselves, lie to their people

[FID]

And rightly so ... Baba with a cart, you know, there is more gas ...

[RUSS]

Quote: SSI

And rightly so ... Baba with a cart, you know, there is more gas ...

Do we have problems with the amount of gas?

[FID]

We have problems with customers ... Who will we sell? And about a woman, so by the way ...

[Lelek]

Quote: SSI

We have customer problems

IMHO, we have problems not with customers, but with heads.

Off topic - for no reason.
Poroshenko is sitting by the fire and stirring the cook in the boiler with the brew. Mishiko is standing next to him, picking his nose in a vile voice: "Well, ne like me, genatsvale Petro, this Avakov, ne like it." Poroshenko, spitting a test on the fire: "If you don't like it, don't eat it." And he began to put the brew in his bowl.

[Victor62ru]

Well, they want to buy OUR gas not from us, well, the flag in their hands.

[2s1122]

Well, the exact same story with the Baltic states, they buy expensive liquefied gas from Norway, and those from Russia are pipeline what to say Ostap Bender is resting.

[Blondy]

Well, you can be glad for Norway, perhaps the only ones in Europe who earn on this stress (although you must first compare, and how much they lose - there’s one fish worth it)

[demo]

Well, let him convince.
The main thing is how much the population pays for it per month.

[AdekvatNICK]

sho there Ukraine ... look at how gloriously it rakes up the arrogant gypsy. That's why you don’t have to stand on ceremony to fry all the women and men so that they wouldn’t arrange a booth and illegal tapping to the gas. OMON Respect



A few days ago, on March 15, Gypsies living in Plekhanovo tried to illegally connect to the local gas pipeline, as a result of which 400 houses were left without heating. The gypsies themselves claim that for many years they were not given the opportunity to do so legally.

After that, on March 16, they arranged a brawl with the police, during which they threw stones and sticks at law enforcement officers and burned tires. On the morning of March 17 several hundred policemen and riot police arrived in the village

[RUSS]

Quote: AdekvatNICK

sho there Ukraine ... look how gloriously raking up the arrogant gypsy.

Thank you for the video, the riot police, the riot police, turned up, I know this contingent, men always got the women in front of them!

[AlexSK]

Quote: RUSS

record riot police huckster wrapped up, I know this contingent

This contingent in my city, in addition to picking drugs, generally does not do anything regularly with their SWAT and riot police covers with this product.

[sherp2015]

Quote: AlexSK

In my city, this contingent does not do anything except drugs

Here is the enemy tribe! They imposed all kinds of parasites on the peoples of Russia, and even a series about such "good" ones was played

[1rl141]

Quote: RUSS

Guys they always refer to women in front of themselves expose!

So they have such a law. Men are not even supposed to work. A woman should support a family.

[1rl141]

Especially the "poor", "unfortunate" gypsy, on her knees, in a fur coat, delivers. So I want to believe that she has no money to pay for gas.
He lived at one time in Vsevolozhsk, it is 10 km from St. Petersburg. So my neighbors were gypsies. They didn’t pay for the apartment at all. And they didn’t pay for electricity. They were periodically cut off, they themselves twisted the wires in the shield and lived happily ever after. The shield on the site was scary to open. The melted, bare wires hung and waited for their victim.
And the gypsies calmly traded in drugs and pale vodka.
As one gypsy said, from Berngardovka (the region in Vsevolozhsk, where many gypsies live), if they had not abolished the prohibition, they would have put their horses in gold teeth.

[RUSS]

Quote: 1rl141

Especially the "poor", "unfortunate" gypsy woman, on her knees, in a fur coat, delivers.

They know how to play in public as well as mow under the disadvantaged.

[gg.na]

Ah yes well done riot police !!! Right so them !!! Look at her fur coat and all that is not enough for them! RIGHT!!! EXCELLENT guys from OMON worked !!! And they snatched the most lumpy from the crowd !!! !!! You were pleased with this video !!! THANK!!! You 100500 ++++++ !!!!!

[izya top]

Velika Khazova Derzhava

Ukraine is negotiating the transportation of European gas to Turkey and Bulgaria. This was stated by the head of Ukrtransgaz Igor Prokopiv, reports Ukriform.
"Bulgarians and Turks are ready to buy gas in Europe and transport it through the territory of Ukraine. Intensive negotiations are underway now. We will have negotiations with the Slovaks in early April, because the Slovakia-Ukraine-Moldova-Romania-Bulgaria route should be launched and further south, to Turkey, with possible storage of gas in our underground gas storage facilities, "Prokopiv said.
The head of Ukrtransgaz noted that there were already contacts with the Bulgarian representatives, and yesterday with the Moldovan ones. He also added that in this context there will be negotiations with Romania.
"This is the result of the fact that we become operators, the world gets used to it, our partners begin to reckon with us. I think this will be a year that will demonstrate that we are working as a transport corridor for a European country," Prokopiv summed up.

[2s1122]

This is whose gas they are going to transport to Europe?

[Belarus]

If it’s cheaper in Europe, it means that Europe subsidizes the purchase price for usrains. It seems to me that if this is so, then it won’t be able to continue for a long time due to various circumstances. And the Usrains Ministry of Energy should understand that their country is just an instrument against Russia and when the instrument they’ll throw it away. Sooner or later, you’ll have to come to an agreement with the Russian Federation and Gazprom and act because the Kiev authorities and the Ministry of Energy are not far-sighted and stupid. No, if they are holding their people stupid then the current nonsense fits into the fact that tryndyat authorities and ministry of energy usrains.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Belarus

If Europe is cheaper, it means Europe subsidizes the purchase price for usrains.

Gas in Europe cannot be cheaper than Gazprom's purchase prices and there are no fools to subsidize in Europe. Ukraine buys gas at a price of more than $ 200. "..KIEV, January 29 - RIA Novosti. Ukraine expects the price of Russian gas in the second quarter of this year at $ 203 per thousand cubic meters, excluding the discount, according to the Ukrainian online edition" Energorynok ", referring to the calculations that were taken as a basis for preparation of the state budget of Ukraine for 2016.

"The contract price of Russian gas for Ukraine in the second quarter of 2016, excluding the discount, may drop to $ 203 per thousand cubic meters, if world oil prices remain at $ 30-33 per barrel until April," the newspaper writes.


Demchishin fool includes, plays for a fall!

[Kos_kalinki9]

OIL40,67 + 1,02% + 1,02%

I copied from Yandex a minute ago. So hope that 30 bucks a barrel, let the young man feed.

[Vladimir57]

They don’t want to - let them ...

[dchegrinec]

170 is something new. Initially, the price was 230 or more. Gazprom's pricing policy is mysterious. Especially for such a "friendly" country.

[co-creator]

Quote: dchegrinec

170 is something new. Initially, the price was 230 or more. Gazprom's pricing policy is mysterious. Especially for such a "friendly" country.

Everything is in order with Gazprom, but the fact that Ukraine does not know why they buy gas is a fact) More recently, Gunpowder said that the reverse is 20% more expensive. Ukraine takes 230-250 for reverse.

[Saratoga833]

Quote: dchegrinec

170 is something new. Initially, the price was 230 or more.

This means only one thing - someone enriched with a new iPhone!

[Andrey Skokovsky]

Quote: dchegrinec

170 is something new. Initially, the price was 230 or more. Gazprom's pricing policy is mysterious. Especially for such a "friendly" country.

the problem is not in Gazprom, but in the current wild, sorry, "democratically market" principle of gas price formation,
the price of our gas is floating and depends on the world oil price

[aviator1913]

The population of Sweden (hereinafter in terms of Russian currency) pays 68,1 rubles per cubic meter of gas consumed.

Following Sweden in the ranking are Portugal (62,1 rubles), Spain (57,3 rubles), Italy (56,8 rubles) and Denmark (52,5 rubles). The population of these countries has to pay so much for gas because of the tax policy of the state, which links the cost of gas for the population with the cost of “green” energy.

Residents of the countries of the Customs Union pay the least amount of gas. The cheapest gas among the countries included in the rating in Kazakhstan is 3,7 rubles per cubic meter, which is 18 times less than in Sweden. Russians pay on average 5,1 rubles, Belarusians pay 6,1 rubles.


Price for 23 June 2015 year.

Price for Ukraine:
170 $ * 68.52 rub / 1000 = 11.64 rubles for 1 cubic meter judging by this summary.

The retail price from July 1 to 2015 in Russia is:


1. For cooking using a gas stove in the presence of central hot water supply (in the absence of other directions for the use of gas) 8,49 rub
2. For cooking and heating water using a gas stove (in the absence of other areas of gas use) 8,49 rub
3. For cooking and heating water using a gas stove and heating water using a gas water heater in the absence of a central hot water supply (in the absence of other areas of gas use) 8,49
4. For heating with the simultaneous use of gas for other purposes (except for heating and (or) generating electric energy using boiler houses of all types and (or) other equipment that are in common ownership of the owners of premises in apartment buildings) 4,75 rub
..

[agent russia]

informative only here from where such numbers took the link would take a look

[aviator1913]

http://www.1prime.ru/News/20150623/813770653.html?sp=2

Gazprom official page http://www.sargc.ru/stoimost-prirodnogo-gaza.html

[sherp2015]

Quote: aviator1913

4. For heating with the simultaneous use of gas for other purposes (except for heating and (or) generating electric energy using boiler houses of all types and (or) other equipment that are in common ownership of the owners of premises in apartment buildings) 4,75 rub
..

In fact, 5,125 in our North-West Federal District, but they should soon increase

[Symarokov897]

Gas is sold for dollars, because of the high rate, the price in rubles remains virtually unchanged .....

[afrikanez]

Maybe Ukrainians do not buy natural gas for $ 170, but "laughing"? Then it immediately becomes clear where they got so many "smart people" in the country.

[avg-mgn]

Quote: aviator1913

Residents of the countries of the Customs Union pay the least amount of gas. The cheapest gas among the countries included in the rating in Kazakhstan is 3,7 rubles per cubic meter, which is 18 times less than in Sweden. Russians pay on average 5,1 rubles, Belarusians pay 6,1 rubles.
Price for Ukraine:
170 $ * 68.52 rubles / 1000 = 11.64 rubles for 1 cubic meters, judging by this summary.

Thank you for the detailed layout, I believe that the "sofa party of the site" will take the calculator in hand and display the average cost of gas production in rubles / $ in Russia.

for reference:
The prime cost of gas production from Gazprom is one of the lowest in the world, said Andrey Kruglov, deputy chairman of the company. He noted that the cost of gas production by Gazprom in 2015 was less than $ 30 per thousand cubic meters, against 38 last year.

[beer-youk]

There is something to think about ... We count 170 "Baku" for 1000 cubic meters, take the rate 1 to 70, multiply and divide by 1000. Received 11,9 rubles per 1 cubic meter. I, in the Kaliningrad region, are not at all funny, because a cubic meter of gas costs 108,87 rubles. Of course, there are transport costs, overhead costs and much more ... But not 10 times !!!

[faridg7]

Well, why not? hit your own so that strangers laugh

[Ros 56]

Quote: beer-youk

But not 10 times !!!

In my opinion, you didn’t think so. 170 bucks is the wholesale price, and 11,9 you took our retail. The question is how much retail per cubic meter per hill. As far as I know, in the west there are no gas stoves in the kitchen, it's expensive. But I can’t presume.

[mamont5]

"The price will be in the same range. We are buying somewhere in the range of 160-170 dollars per 1 cubic meters, I think this is an adequate price for now," the minister told reporters.

What price will be in the EU, for this they will buy. There it is not here, no one will adapt to the dill.

[dvg1959]

Reverse is stolen gas taken from a transit pipe. Europe, knowing the true situation, entered into a conspiracy with Ukraine and covers it. From Europe, reverse gas in the opposite direction is technically impossible to supply to Ukraine.

[31rus2]

Dear ones, don't you think that it is us who are being led by the nose, what's the difference for how much Ukraine takes gas, our gas, and money for gas goes by, this is one thing, the EU will supply gas and pay for gas to the Poroshenko regime, so much, how much the United States will say, that's why I personally am against the "Southern, Northern and other streams", and contracts for supplies should be concluded for no more than a year, negotiate special conditions for re-exporting to Ukraine, Prohibit gas after 2019 from using pipelines in Ukraine and stop gas supplies to this country, until the political situation in both Ukraine and the EU changes, it was not us who wanted the war and it was not we who started it, it is time to give an effective answer, and not just lip-synching

[Million]

And in our province from July gas will become more expensive ...

[mr.grin19z]

let the debts go first

[akula]

Quote: RUSS

 

The truth is that you did not participate in the Battle of Stalingrad, and therefore you can’t compare, and you don’t fight in the Donbass either, and therefore you can’t judge either.