ISIS militants say they shot down Iraqi Air Force reconnaissance aircraft

The plane Cessna 208 Caravan, which belonged to the Iraqi Air Force and carried out a reconnaissance flight over the territories controlled by ISIS militants, fell near the city of Kirkuk. According to Iraqi military sources, the cause of the crash was a technical malfunction. However, in one of the militants' accounts on social networks, a statement appeared that the light-engine aircraft was shot down from the ground by igilovs.

In Baghdad, at the moment they claim that 5 representatives of the country's Air Force were on board the aircraft, and that “they are being sought on the ground”. ISIS militants spread the message that all Iraqi military personnel died as a result of an attack on a plane from the ground. Officially, the Iraqi pilots and other representatives of the Air Force, who were on the plane, are missing.

According to some data, Iraqi special forces are connected to the rescue operation. The work of the special forces is complicated by the fact that the area of ​​the plane’s crash is fully controlled by the igilovs, who clearly managed to prepare for the fact that the crew and passengers and passengers on board the Cessna 208 Caravan.

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[PKK]

We observe all violations of safety rules for flights through air defense zones. Earthing down by the military.

[MARK]

Iraqi Air Force Cessna 208 Caravan

Not seriously, like all this ... That's the result!

[Pig]

they are there really fighting on the "maize"

[Bongo]

Quote: Pig

they are there really fighting on the "maize"

Quote: MARK

Not seriously, like all this ... That's the result!

Quote: Makarov

intelligence on Cessna? ... "Is he crazy, your soloist?" (c)

Dear ladies and gentlemen, publications regarding modern military aviation and airborne reconnaissance and strike complexes regularly appear on this resource. But unfortunately a very narrow circle of people reads these materials. Before writing such comments, is it really difficult to find out with the help of a search engine what kind of Cessna 208 Caravan is in the Iraqi Air Force?

The Cessna AC-208 Combat Caravan lightweight counterinsurgency aircraft was developed under contract with the US government to re-equip the Iraqi Air Force. It is built on the basis of the Cessna 208 Grand Caravan single-engine general-purpose turboprop aircraft.

The avionics avionics of this aircraft allows you to perform the tasks of a specific optoelectronic aerial reconnaissance and use high-precision aviation weapons. It consists of: small-sized digital computing device, an optoelectronic system (color detection camera, infrared camera, laser range finder and laser designator), 18-inch tactical situation indicator, color LCD displays, data transmission equipment to ground command posts, VHF radio, etc.

This aircraft, which has been in operation since 2009, implements the concept of an air command and reconnaissance station with the possibility of independent attacks with precision weapons if necessary.

[Makarov]

intelligence on Cessna? ... "Is he crazy, your soloist?" (c)

[Michael67]

You more believe the messages of these dodgers. They really want to seem significant. They reported that they had almost a nuclear bomb. Macaques are crazy ...

[PSih2097]

Quote: Michael67

They reported that they had almost a nuclear bomb.

to build a dirty bomb - you don’t need a lot of brains,

Quote: Michael67

Macaques are crazy ...

do not consider yourself smarter than others, already a couple of times they considered ...

[rpek32]

Quote: Makarov

intelligence on Cessna? ... "Is he crazy, your soloist?" (c)

pf they from Cessna helpers bullets

[Lanista]

Cessna as a military plane? In fact, it is an analogue of the An-2 "Corn", only a monoplane.
Iraqis are crazy guys.

[sober]

Yes, since that !!!!!!!!!!!

[donavi49]

Some of these Sesnas are equipped with Helfers, and before the arrival of Su-25 and F-16, they were the most powerful aircraft of the Iraqi Air Force. The rest with good observational equipment (advanced stabilized TPV and work posts) were used as an advanced UAV for reconnaissance.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Lanista

Cessna as a military plane? In fact, it is an analogue of the An-2 "Corn", only a monoplane.
Iraqis are crazy guys.

Wikipedia:

Cessna A-37 Dragonfly
An American lightweight two-seat attack aircraft, developed on the basis of the T-37 training aircraft in the mid-1960's. It was actively used during the war in Vietnam, was in service with a number of Latin American states (it is still used in a small amount). The design of the A-37 returned to the idea of ​​an attack aircraft as a well-armored aircraft of direct support to the troops, which subsequently developed when the Su-25 and A-10 attack aircraft were developed.

Cessna AC-208B Combat Caravan
A light attack aircraft developed by Alliant Techsystems under a contract with the US government to re-equip the Iraqi Air Force. Based on the Cessna 208B Grand Caravan single-engine general-purpose turboprop aircraft. On-board electronic equipment allows you to perform tasks of specific optoelectronic aerial reconnaissance and use aviation weapons. It includes: a small-sized digital computing device, an optoelectronic system (a color early warning camera, an infrared camera, a laser range finder and a laser target designator), an 18-inch tactical situation indicator, color LCD displays, data transmission line equipment for ground command posts, VHF radio station, etc.

Wow Corncob?

[sa-ag]

Quote: Lanista

Cessna as a military plane? In fact, it is an analogue of the An-2 "Corn"

More likely An-3

[Mountain shooter]

Well, knocking a light motor off the ground with a heavy machine gun is not the trick. Just think of a plane. So, a dove of peace, a flying stool. What he trampled on in that area is the question. And shot down, or fell down - this is not so important.

[donavi49]

Yes, he flew high on the video. In the sense of what flew? This is either a reconnaissance version with TPV and 3 operators that process the picture in real time and transmit to the ground, can directly control and coordinate units, maintain communication, etc. Or a shock version with 2 Helfaers.

[marshes]

Quote: donavi49

Yes, he flew high on the video. In the sense of what flew? This is either a reconnaissance version with TPV and 3 operators that process the picture in real time and transmit to the ground, can directly control and coordinate units, maintain communication, etc. Or a shock version with 2 Helfaers.

By the way, not a bad plane, a kind of "UAV-poor", or for countries who were denied the purchase of shock UAVs.
It is similar, well, for me, in the Russian Federation, although the connection between the lack of production of light turboprop aircraft, "special filling" is installed on the serial Mi-8 AMShT.Terminator.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, knocking a light motor off the ground with a heavy machine gun is not the trick. Just think of a plane. So, a dove of peace, a flying stool. What he trampled on in that area is the question. And shot down, or fell down - this is not so important.

Fly on what they have. But the technique must be technically sound.
He ran into reconnaissance, including, possibly, visual, assuming that the IS does not have air defense equipment.
Shot down - the PR of the IG, he fell - anti-advertising to Iraq.

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, knocking a light motor off the ground with a heavy machine gun is not the trick. Just think of a plane. So, a dove of peace, a flying stool. What he trampled on in that area is the question. And shot down, or fell down - this is not so important.

Fly on what they have. But the technique must be technically sound.
He ran into reconnaissance, including, possibly, visual, assuming that the IS does not have air defense equipment.
Shot down - the PR of the IG, he fell - anti-advertising to Iraq.

[Oleg Lavrov]

Official version, technical malfunction! The pilots were missing, there is a hope that they were not found by Daesh, otherwise, these Daesh-rid .. people would have trumpeted the killing of pilots and showed a video!

[donavi49]

There is already a video with a fall (it was not clearly shot down or not - the plan when the plane was still flying normally, there were flashes but the quality is very poor, and the plan when it was already falling with the roll to the wing, the engine was running, the screw was spinning, it was not clear in general). Pilots were also shot there.

Caution 21 +++!
https://vid.me/zQAO

[Kupez4]

Of course, I feel sorry for people. But who the pancake coordinates these flights? It is not clear. Before teasing?

[Sandpiper]

- Often unprofessionalism on the battlefield leads to death!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Sandpiper

- Often unprofessionalism on the battlefield leads to death!

In our Sverdlovsk region, quite recently, the missing "maize" was found somehow. The technique failed. Airplanes very often crash without asking the pilots about it. And as for large and very expensive planes, they simply fall constantly, including military ones.
Interestingly, how did you determine that this is not the professionalism of the pilots?

[Hooks]

Planes in Russia must be bought, maybe it will come now.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Hooks

Planes in Russia must be bought, maybe it will come now.

Is there a light, economical and low-cost reconnaissance aircraft in Russia? If you name brands comparable to the Cessna AC-208B Combat Caravan, then YOU are right.

[Hooks]

Dear Aleksey_K, at the expense of economical and low-cost Cessna, this is you, sorry, in vain. Second-hand civilian 208 from 1,795 Americans. Moreover, without a chance against not only ZU-000-23.
Why does Russia need light, economical, "low-cost" reconnaissance MANNERED, target aircraft for ZUSHKA? What are drones for?
I apologize, but the same instant-25 in Iraq would be very helpful.
Sincerely.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Hooks

Why does Russia need light, economical, "low-cost" reconnaissance MANNERED, target aircraft for ZUSHKA? What are drones for?

So I did not argue with anyone that Russia needed light attack aircraft and reconnaissance aircraft. Iraq is simply not a rich country now and they decided to use a cheap option. We will not sell Russian aircraft to a non-friendly Iraq for free either. And their cost is not small compared to the Cessna.
As for the memory-23-2. If they are so dangerous, then all helicopter aviation in battle is simply not needed. You yourself say that without a chance. In addition, there are also portable MANPADS. In general, no one is allowed to fly over the battlefield. So you can agree that Russia can’t fight with anyone. Everywhere and everyone has anti-weapons against the main means of war, both on land and at sea, and in the air.
But if Russia created light attack aircraft like Cessna, it would be easy to create assault drones in Russia long ago. In the meantime, only intelligence with disabilities. Real reconnaissance vehicles are stuffed with heavy equipment, and these are not at all those light vehicles, like the pioneer ones, which we are now handed over to us as the height of technological progress. Schoolchildren created these light drones in the USSR in aircraft model circles. Progress is evident.

[Turkir]

I recall how the wise leadership of Iraq arrogantly refused the assistance offered by the Russian Federation.
Let them sprinkle ash on their heads ....
No law has been written for fools ...

[Knight Rider]

Kremlin puts anti-aircraft mounts to Iraqi Kurds - media
Russia delivered five anti-aircraft guns ZU-23-2 to the Kurds in Iraq. The party was handed over in the presence of the Russian ambassador to Iraq, the consul general of Russia and the deputy head of the general staff of the Kurdish militia.
About this "RIA Novosti" said the attache of the Russian Consulate General in Iraqi Erbil Artem Grigoryan.

He noted that a batch of weapons arrived on March 14. In addition to the installations, about 20 thousand charges were transferred to the Iraqi Kurds. At the same time, Grigoryan specified that "this was not the first batch, but the fourth or fifth."
As the interlocutor at the Russian Embassy in Iraq told Interfax, the supplies were agreed with the authorities of the Middle East country. “An aircraft with weapons is landing in Baghdad, it goes through all the necessary procedures and goes to Erbil,” he explained.

The interlocutor of the agency added that these procedures "are a general requirement of the Iraqi authorities." However, he refused to answer the question whether these deliveries are related to the recent visit of Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin to Iraq.
Yevgeny Arzhantsev, consul-adviser to the diplomatic mission, explained to Interfax that the Russian Consulate General in Erbil is counting on further deliveries of Russian weapons to the Kurds. He specified that this was not the first batch, but the "first full-fledged one".

[weksha50]

Here it seems to be out of place, and out of place ...

Evening News ...

"NTV 21:34
Russia handed anti-aircraft mounts to Iraqi Kurds
Five installations and 20 rounds of ammunition were handed over to the Kurdish military in the presence of the Russian ambassador to Iraq and the deputy chief of staff of the Kurdish militia. At the same time, at the Consulate General of the Russian Federation in Iraqi Erbil
noted that this game was "not the first and not the last"...

source: https://news.yandex.ru/yandsearch?cl4url=www.vesti.ru/doc.html%3Fid%3D2731890&la
ng = ru & lr = 15

This, obviously, is our greetings to Erdogan ... Putin said that he won’t get off with tomatoes ... Now let them take care of their Faberge ...

[donavi49]

They passed it to Peshmerge Barzani, and he and Erdogan have an excellent relationship, they drink tea every week.

[marshes]

Quote: weksha50

This, obviously, is our greetings to Erdogan ... Putin said that he won’t get off with tomatoes ... Now let them take care of their Faberge ..

So they passed on about the Turkish Kurds.

It is also reported that the Russian ambassador to Baghdad, Ilya Morgunov, discussed with the president of Iraqi Kurdistan Masoud Barzani new deliveries of Russian weapons.

http://www.vz.ru/news/2016/3/16/799898.html
It’s more clear how things are.
http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2694836

[weksha50]

Quote: marshes

So they passed on about the Turkish Kurds.

Let's see what comes out of this tricky policy and game of cat and mouse ...

The East is a delicate matter ... Shaitan will break a leg in their relationship ... Today he drank tea with Erdogan. tomorrow I stuck a knife in the back ...

[marshes]

Quote: weksha50

The East is a delicate matter ... Shaitan will break a leg in their relationship ... Today he drank tea with Erdogan. tomorrow I stuck a knife in the back ...

I think this is payment for the air corridor over Iraqi Kurdistan.
The news from Vzglyad is understandable.

“The Ambassador of the Russian Federation met on the 13th with the President of Iraqi Kurdistan

Further...

“After the transfer of a batch of weapons on March 14, the ambassador (RF) said that this was not the last batch of weapons.

And more interesting

In the early days of the start of the Russian Aerospace Forces operation in Syria, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia provides the Kurds with weapons through the Iraqi government. Earlier, European countries supplied weapons to the Kurdish militia.

And then the order of March 15 to withdraw the Russian Aerospace Forces from Syria.