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Ukrainian engines that were previously installed on Mi-28H helicopters are replaced by Russian VK-2500

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The Rostvertol enterprise replaced the TVZ-117 Ukrainian engine, previously installed on the Night Hunter, with the domestic VK-2500, RIA News Post Deputy Plant Director Vadim Barannikov.


Ukrainian engines that were previously installed on Mi-28H helicopters are replaced by Russian VK-2500


“Today, the TVZ-117 engines are not used in our enterprise, we install the VK-28 engines, which are manufactured by the Russian company - the Klimov Plant, on the Mi-2500 helicopters. We have no problems with that, ”Barannikov told reporters.

Recall military-technical cooperation between the Russian Federation and Ukraine was interrupted in June 2014 g after Poroshenko banned "any cooperation with Russia" related to the defense complex.

Manufacturer Help: "Mi-28N" Night Hunter "(in the export version - Mi-28NE) is an attack helicopter designed for search and destruction tanks, armored and unarmored vehicles, as well as enemy infantry on the battlefield and low-speed air targets. "A helicopter is capable of operating day and night in simple and difficult weather conditions."
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  1. Wolverine
    Wolverine 16 March 2016 17: 07
    +39
    Well, can they when they want or when they press it down?
    1. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 16 March 2016 17: 10
      +106
      Here is another high-tech industry on the Ruin, I gave my soul to God ... ...
      1. Arh
        Arh 16 March 2016 17: 16
        +10
        I think it’s necessary to go over everything, qualitatively, for example, like a Japanese tape recorder, better looking into the distance !!!
        1. Byshido_dis
          Byshido_dis 16 March 2016 17: 19
          +3
          Tse zrada?) Or too much? wassat
          1. FenH
            FenH 16 March 2016 17: 22
            +1
            Tse is a PR move, as the "Wheel" mosque correctly noted
          2. EvgNik
            EvgNik 16 March 2016 18: 12
            +7
            Quote: Byshido_dis
            Tse zrada?) Or too much?

            This is a type of sanction from Ukraine. To make it harder for us to live.
          3. ver_
            ver_ 17 March 2016 04: 12
            +1
            ..that on which side to look, on the one hand - zrada, on the other hand, I’ve broken ..
      2. bannik
        bannik 16 March 2016 17: 19
        +56
        Thanks Svidomo for the development of our, the Russian aviation industry! From the heart, thank you!
        1. Alf
          Alf 17 March 2016 22: 19
          0
          Quote: bannik
          Thanks Svidomo for the development of our, the Russian aviation industry! From the heart, thank you!

          Im so, on trifles, so much as. The main thing is to reward Obama.
      3. Mikado
        Mikado 16 March 2016 17: 38
        +11
        Quote: Ramzaj99
        Here is another high-tech industry on the Ruin, I gave my soul to God ... ...

        Ukrainians themselves in their pants nasrali .. morons, bl ..
        1. Altona
          Altona 16 March 2016 19: 41
          +11
          Quote: Mikado
          Ukrainians themselves in their pants nasrali .. morons, bl ..

          --------------------
          Yes, they are not stupid people. Under the guise of "reforms" there is an accelerated dismantling of industry and the collapse of the economy. Workers of Antonov and Motor Sich were kept from politics and rallies during the Maidan. They say, “panduget” does not concern us, it’s up there, “we are like robbers and be robots,” but such a policy “my house is on the edge” led to such results. In this regard, ordinary workers can only sympathize.
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 16 March 2016 20: 07
            +11
            Quote: Altona
            Under the guise of "reforms" there is an accelerated dismantling of industry and the collapse of the economy.

            - Antonov Design Bureau - corpse
            - Yuzhmash - a corpse
            - Zorya-Mashproekt - to death
            - Motor Sich - the fate is clear
            ... convulsions of the Ukrainian state ... hi
            1. VP
              VP 17 March 2016 06: 09
              +12
              Quote: Inok10
              Motor Sich - the fate is clear

              Motor Sich lives just fine. And he will live for a long time.
              Klimov makes only a hundred or two engines a year.
              And besides the 28th, Mi-117, 8, 24, Ka-35, 27, 28, 31, 32, 50 fly on TVZ-52
              Judging by the bouncy statement, they closed the problem only for 28
              And helicopters periodically require engine replacement. And how many of our helicopters in the world ...
              1. EvilLion
                EvilLion 17 March 2016 08: 20
                +7
                Ka-52 is also Klimovsky. They cut off the horses from the military, civilians in Russia may also not want to have a business. So now the owl motor is best to look for, as it were, to drag everything that can be into Russia, even with a carcass, even with a stuffed animal.
                1. VP
                  VP 17 March 2016 08: 50
                  +1
                  How can they not want if Klimovskie closes a smaller part of the needs?
                  It’s not even clear how much Klimov actually releases in a year. Rumors give a scatter from 50 to 150. And you need hundreds of six.
              2. goose
                goose 17 March 2016 09: 32
                +6
                Quote: VP
                Motor Sich lives just fine. And he will live for a long time.
                Klimov makes only a hundred or two engines a year.

                Klimov is expanding, but the full launch of production will be only by 2017. Now the volumes are limited.
                1. Gogia
                  Gogia 17 March 2016 10: 35
                  -3
                  A full launch is how they announced 300 a year. And you need 1000 pcs.
                  1. fennekRUS
                    fennekRUS 17 March 2016 16: 21
                    +4
                    Quote: Gogia
                    300 a year. And you need 1000 pcs.

                    justify please! Or so, from the ceiling, the numbers took?
                    1. dali
                      dali 17 March 2016 23: 13
                      0
                      Quote: fennekRUS
                      justify please! Or so, from the ceiling, the numbers took?

                      So Gogia too ... well, what do you want from all sorts of Gogos ... they sleep like dill and see how everything falls down with us ...

                      But normal Georgians are ... not involved ...
                    2. Just BB
                      Just BB 19 March 2016 05: 30
                      0
                      fennekRUS ↑
                      Quote: Gogia
                      300 a year. And you need 1000 pcs.

                      justify please! Or so, from the ceiling, the numbers took?


                      And still existing to repair. 2500 hours or 7-8 years and in repair.
                      "Sich" did not quite have time to "repair" work.
                  2. user1212
                    user1212 18 March 2016 16: 23
                    0
                    Quote: Gogia
                    A full launch is how they announced 300 a year. And you need 1000 pcs.

                    In the USSR, the production of helicopters was about 500 units per year. So why do we need 1000pcs now?
              3. Gogia
                Gogia 17 March 2016 10: 33
                -1
                Maladez! Plus!
              4. RUSS
                RUSS 18 March 2016 13: 07
                0
                Quote: VP
                Motor Sich lives just fine.

                Turks are pulling their hands to the Soviet military-industrial complex heritage, bent Khokhlov, in exchange for technology
              5. Alekseev
                Alekseev 18 March 2016 16: 46
                +1
                Quote: VP
                Motor Sich lives just fine. And he will live for a long time.

                Not for long.
                It all depends on the development of the situation in Ukraine.
                In the coming years, Klimov may increase production to 700-800 units and thereby close both Russian and world needs.
                There are all conditions for this: design bureau, copyrights, not all technologies serial production, since the Soviet era, the serial plant was in Ukraine, now they are, you just need to increase production.
                In addition, helicopter motors are not bananas, nor meat. Without state support, including in the sales market, the matter is seams ...
          2. Maxom75
            Maxom75 16 March 2016 20: 19
            +8
            And I don’t sympathize with them, the coward always tries to sit behind the others, but as a rule, when one side wins, it quickly begins to destroy those who were in the middle and stayed in the hope that they would not touch it. Fate of those who dreamed of robbing and robbing in Ukraine or the Donbass or went to the ATO on the side of the APU. Those who have not died in the ATO will be dismissed from work.
          3. Turkir
            Turkir 18 March 2016 10: 50
            0
            the policy "my house is on the edge" led to such results

            Now they have all the huts with the edge. Let the experts move to us, they will be more useful to us.
            Only the color of the nation will remain Svidomo: Valtsman with Lyashko, Parubiy with Avakov, Saakashvili with Turchinov, Gaidar with Tymoshenko - all as one experts and brains, lifters of the economy and fences.
        2. pts-m
          pts-m 17 March 2016 13: 59
          +1
          the answer for the miakado is 17:38. Kakhly love this “gang” even on the Red Square in Moscow “spoil” Russia, but only in their harem pants.
        3. Zai pali
          Zai pali 18 March 2016 02: 56
          0
          They don’t wear pants. Only lace trusels and harem pants.
        4. cedar
          cedar 18 March 2016 06: 55
          +1
          Quote: Mikado
          Quote: Ramzaj99
          Here is another high-tech industry on the Ruin, I gave my soul to God ... ...

          Ukrainians themselves in their pants nasrali .. morons, bl ..


          What are Ukrainians? Can't you see the forests behind the trees?
          Biden arrives in the presidential chair to sit down, in the Security Service of the Central Intelligence Directorate of the CIA, as at his place in Langley, the Anglo-Saxons of the Varangians were seated in ministerial posts, etc. etc..!
          Ukrainians are pawns! And as for normal people, you can pull up on VO topics, for example, "Overton's Window" thoroughly dilutes the brains!
      4. Kos_kalinki9
        Kos_kalinki9 16 March 2016 17: 46
        +20
        But another "high-tech" one is being developed. They live in their own dimension.
      5. Koshak
        Koshak 16 March 2016 19: 36
        +7
        Quote: Ramzaj99
        Here is another high-tech industry on the Ruin, I gave my soul to God ... ...

        Well, they asked for it themselves. No one was forcing. I really wanted Russia to spoil the door, but as they say, what they fought for ... With the ship’s turbines the same thing gets bogged down. Now let them install their engines on the shit-bearing stations if they find kerosene. De * il, dance!
      6. Samaritan
        Samaritan 16 March 2016 20: 18
        +1
        Quote: Ramzaj99
        Here is another high-tech industry on the Ruin, I gave my soul to God ... ...

        To make it clearer: KEY INDICATORS
        financial and economic activities of MOTOR Sich JSC:
        Net profit (loss) March 2016:
        3 670 090 thousand gr.
        24.03/XNUMX. A meeting of shareholders will be held at which they will raise the question a bit ...
        1. 16112014nk
          16112014nk 16 March 2016 20: 46
          +2
          So is it a profit or a loss? If profit is not bad. At the current rate 3670090000gr. = 96890376000 rub. Almost 10 billion rubles per month. But if the loss ...
          1. Samaritan
            Samaritan 16 March 2016 21: 04
            +1
            Lesion! (So ​​they write in the financial report)
          2. Samaritan
            Samaritan 16 March 2016 22: 19
            +2
            it on March 2016 for the reporting period.
      7. Wheel
        Wheel 17 March 2016 00: 25
        +1
        Quote: Ramzaj99
        Here is another high-tech industry on the Ruin, I gave my soul to God ... ...

        The neighbor’s cow died ...
        What a joy!

        Ugh!
        How did I get to the censor ... sad
        1. swan
          swan 17 March 2016 01: 25
          +8
          Well here a little different story. No one was against (earlier) that in Ukraine the engines were made by a former Soviet enterprise.
          It's just a statement of the fact that they stopped selling engines to us and left at a loss. Rather, with the question, "what for it was to do?".
          1. Wheel
            Wheel 17 March 2016 01: 46
            -4
            Quote: kugu
            Well here a little different story. No one was against (earlier) that in Ukraine the engines were made by a former Soviet enterprise.
            It's just a statement of the fact that they stopped selling engines to us and left at a loss. Rather, with the question, "what for it was to do?".

            But I'm not talking about this, I'm talking about gloating.
            1. adept666
              adept666 17 March 2016 06: 53
              +7
              But I'm not talking about this, I'm talking about gloating.
              Did she herself die? Or did a neighbor sprinkle poison to her in spite of another neighbor, to whom he sold milk despite the fact that this very neighbor also has milk cows?
            2. Zefr
              Zefr 17 March 2016 11: 46
              +5
              But I'm not talking about this, I'm talking about gloating.
              Well, what kind of gloating is there? It's like a "good old friend" crept up to you and wanted to give you a podzhopnik with all his foolishness, but he missed and fell into a puddle. Then you think about whether to feel sorry for him, and whether there is great gloating over him to neigh. But one could have given him a turnip, so that he would not be naughty anymore.
        2. ARS56
          ARS56 17 March 2016 20: 11
          +5
          Your untruth.
          A neighbor killed his cow in order to leave us without milk, knowing that we had nowhere to take it at once.
          So go to your favorite censor yourself.
        3. dali
          dali 17 March 2016 23: 23
          0
          Quote: Wheel
          The neighbor’s cow died ...
          What a joy!

          Ugh!
          How did I get to the censor ...

          Are we crying now ?! belay

          Or did you forget the saying: how it comes around - it will respond, maybe you don’t live in Russia at all and don’t know such a thing ?! belay

          As he got to the censor - so no one is holding you here by force.
          Do not like the formans ... tablecloth path ...

          By the way, for such a kick in the ass on the censor and ala-ulu-good-bui-Vasya ... and you still dare to compare it with the censor ... further, an untranslatable set of expressions am laughing
      8. Gogia
        Gogia 17 March 2016 10: 32
        +4
        Friends, I certainly understand that such statements from a high rostrum have a great effect on us - patriots. Only there is one thing - Klimov makes 100 engines a year.
        TVZ117 is installed on the Mi17 and Mi28 about 300 engines a year, including replacement.
        Klimov can do 150 now ...
        And Ukrainians began actively selling these engines to the Chinese and Indians. No matter how they sell technology, out of habit ... The potential around the world is huge ... Mi-8 and Mi17 fly by thousands.
        At the same time, for example, at the Kazan Motor Plant, engines are now being made only under GAZPROM ....
        Comrades, let's take a sober look at things ... Far from everything is as great as we are being hammered into our ears .... Rogozin must tear up the directors of enterprises for their fraud, but they didn’t even bother anyone. It's a shame, damn it. For whom we are considered ...
      9. Alexander_
        Alexander_ 19 March 2016 13: 24
        0
        The fascists do not need industry.
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    3. Wheel
      Wheel 16 March 2016 17: 17
      +5
      Quote: Wolverine
      Well, can they when they want or when they press it down?

      Yes, everything is simpler, the usual PR move.
      Unfortunately, Klimov will be able to fully provide domestic helicopter engineering with his engines only by the year 20.
      While capacities are barely 10-15% short.
      So ... here ..., the rest of the models will go with the Ukrainians ...

      1. FenH
        FenH 16 March 2016 17: 20
        +2
        Well, the gas transit contract until 19, we will tolerate them for another three years wink
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 17 March 2016 00: 14
          +4
          Quote: FenH
          tolerate them for another three years

          So what? Let's stop pumping gas in Geyropa? Freshly legend ..
          Now you say: "Let's start up Nord Stream!" but no: the power is not enough. And the construction of "SP2" is being blocked by the same Geyrope! The other day, again 8 countries in the bayonet went against this branch. They will force our people to pump through dill - and they will also force them to give money to repair the gas transmission network!
          And I strongly doubt that Gazprom will refuse gas supplies to Geyropa - the position of the gas industry has long been known: "Nothing personal (Motherland, Honor, conscience, national pride - these are all profanities!): Business should not suffer!"
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 17 March 2016 09: 47
            +2
            Quote: avia1991
            And I strongly doubt that Gazprom will refuse gas supplies to Geyropa - the position of the gas industry has long been known: "Nothing personal (Motherland, Honor, conscience, national pride - these are all profanities!): Business should not suffer!"

            what The Nord Stream -1 is not yet fully loaded, and the second one is probably Merkel, who will push if the non-German businessmen put up good pressure. In general, the government should follow the words and act consistently, rather than slogans. Everything was said for 19 years, it means everything - look for sidings, although building a new long-distance gas pipeline in 3 years is a serious task for both builders and designers.
            Americans very seriously patrol any risks of rapprochement and cooperation between Russia and the EU, while the EU so far behaves like a daisy in any serious matters with Russia.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 19 March 2016 23: 25
              0
              Quote: Corsair
              Nord Stream -1 is not yet fully loaded, and the second one, probably Merkel, will still push

              Not fully loaded. But if you trim the dill branch - one joint venture is not enough to compensate. But Merkelshe SP2 is not needed; there is its own branch going to Germany, along the bottom of the Baltic Sea, it was not insignificant to insure itself immediately about stable supplies.
              If it is not possible to ensure gas supplies from Russia, Americans will be happy to compensate for the difference with LNG supplies.
      2. bannik
        bannik 16 March 2016 17: 26
        +2
        And Barannikov, it seems, said that TVZ-117 was not used at Rosvertol. So who should I believe, you or Barannikov?
        1. engineer74
          engineer74 16 March 2016 17: 37
          +13
          Quote: bannik
          And Barannikov, it seems, said that TVZ-117 was not used at Rosvertol. So who should I believe, you or Barannikov?

          INSIDE: trust Barannikov! wink
          VK-2500 "Klimov" mainly assembles, OMO "named after Baranov" Omsk, "Chernyshev Plant" Moscow, NPTsG "Salyut" Moscow, etc. are involved in the manufacture of parts and assemblies. hi
          1. FenH
            FenH 16 March 2016 17: 46
            +3
            You, dear, please indicate the quantity, please, the Komarad Wheel does not deny the release of VK-2500, it simply indicates that this number of produced so far is not enough laughing
            1. engineer74
              engineer74 16 March 2016 17: 56
              +14
              About 120-150 this year will be, further more fellow !
              ENIP, Motor Sich, in the best years, produced ~ 200!
            2. 79807420129
              79807420129 16 March 2016 18: 01
              +11
              Quote: FenH
              just indicates that the given number is not yet enough

              Dear, the most important thing is that we are developing Russian engines, and we are not waiting for the power to change in the territory of 404 or the cancer on the mountain whistles or the oil rises in price, and new products always go by the piece, when they work out, then the series will go.
              1. FenH
                FenH 16 March 2016 18: 08
                +3
                So no one is opposed, God forbid that the PD has passed certification, and Saturn with turbines did not pull the rubber
                1. 79807420129
                  79807420129 16 March 2016 18: 19
                  +24
                  Quote: FenH
                  So no one is opposed, God forbid that the PD has passed certification, and Saturn with turbines did not pull the rubber

                  "Saturn" does not pull rubber, keeps a test stand, wrote about it many times, it will be handed over at the end of the year, by the end of 2017 it will be launched, now it is being built in two shifts, the new foundry has already been delivered, equipment is being delivered, according to the plan it should be launched in November this year, but most likely at the beginning of the next, now the details for the marine theme in iron have already gone, the first GTU will most likely be released by 2018. hiOnly dear colleagues, let's not write about PR. With respect. hi
                  1. FenH
                    FenH 16 March 2016 18: 27
                    +5
                    thanks for the info hi
                  2. Boa kaa
                    Boa kaa 16 March 2016 19: 52
                    +3
                    Quote: 79807420129
                    Now the details for marine subjects in iron have already gone, the first gas turbine will most likely be released by 2018.

                    Dear our Vlad!
                    I, good news - glad.

                    But, I would like, comrade,
                    So that you answer "in the fall":

                    Where do you know
                    There came such a "Miracle"

                    Or - "OBS said",
                    Yes, the wind blabbed ...

                    Here is the request,
                    Don't take the verses for flattery

                    But it hurts MOREMAN
                    to climb hotts frigates!

                    Adversary ... AUGi drives
                    And we have honor to "kayaks" ...

                    You tell us straight
                    Soon there will be a GTD-wik

                    To put on a boat
                    Well, at sea, straight! yes
              2. avia1991
                avia1991 17 March 2016 00: 05
                +2
                Quote: 79807420129
                the most important thing is that we develop Russian engines,

                Great, great all ..
                But have the commentators not forgotten about the forthcoming privatization of Russian Helicopters? AND WHO was put on the board of directors of this glorious company? "Hero of our time", the order-bearing master otmaz from the zone?! .. Are you sure that tomorrow we will also successfully build helicopters ??
                God grant, if so be it. Although there were enough problems with the VK-2500. And it’s good if it’s real, in fact, they started to put on refinements, rather than PR, as usual, on the eve of the autumn elections ..
          2. Samaritan
            Samaritan 16 March 2016 19: 48
            +10
            My 5 kopecks.
            I think it will become clear to you how much more work needs to be done (and by the way, our engine is VK-2500PS), and how much should be replaced:

            Based on the engine TV3-117 created:

            TV3-117M ("M" - marine) - modification for Mi-14 helicopters with special events for operation at sea. Serial release
            since 1976;
            TV3-117MT (“MT” - modernized, transport) - modification for Mi-8MT / Mi-17 helicopters and their modifications. Serial release since 1977;
            TV3-117KM (“KM” - Kamov, marine) - modification for Ka-27 helicopters;
            TV3-117V (“B” - high-altitude) - modification for use on Mi-24 helicopters in the mountains (developed taking into account operating conditions in Afghanistan). Serial release since 1980;
            TV3-117VK (“VK” - high-altitude, Kamovsky) - a modification similar to TV3-117V, but for Ka-27, Ka-29 and Ka-32 helicopters. Serial production since 1985. For export, these helicopters were produced with the TV3-117VKR engines (“VCR” - high-altitude, Kamov, regime; for modifications of the Ka-28 helicopters) with increased capacities in the nominal and cruising modes;
            TV3-117VM ("VM" - high-altitude, modernized) - a modification developed for the Mi-28 helicopter. Subsequently, it was installed on Mi-8MT / Mi-17 helicopters. It differs by the introduction of automatic emergency mode. Has certificates like AR IAC, India and the Republic of China, China. Serial release since 1986;
            TV3-117VMA ("VMA" - high-altitude, modernized, modification "A") - a modification developed for the Ka-50 helicopter. Currently installed on the Ka-27, Ka-29, Ka-31, Mi-24, Mi-28A / N, Ka-32 helicopters. Has certificates like AR IAC and Transport of Canada. Serial production since 1986. For the export of Ka-28, the modification TV3-117VMAR ("VMAP" - high-altitude, modernized, modification "A", mode) with nominal and cruising modes similar to TV3-117VKR is used .;
            TV3-117VM Series 02 - a variant of TV3-117VM for civilian Mi-8MT / Mi-17 helicopters. Has certificates like AR IAC, India and the Republic of China, China. Serial release since 1993;
            TV3-117VMA series 02 - version of TV3-117VMA for civilian Ka-32 helicopters. Has certificates like AR IAC, Transport Canada and Switzerland. Serial release since 1993;
            TP3-117 (A) - a turbojet engine for unmanned scouts of Tupolev Design Bureau "Flight" ("Flight-D).
            In 2001 Based on the TV3-117VMA engine, the VK-2500 engine was created.
            1. Just BB
              Just BB 19 March 2016 06: 00
              0
              Samaritan (5) RU 16 March 2016 19:48 ↑
              My 5 kopecks.
              In 2001 engine based TV3-117VMA created VK-2500 engine. (Actually, this is how Klimov OJSC informs us)


              Then another half a penny:
              this is "the same donkey" - only slightly "fed".
              In order to seamlessly produce this very necessary engine in Russia for product 78 (the original Soviet designation), a new name VK-2500 was introduced, changing the settings along the way (there was a reserve, of course) and painting it differently.
              Glory to the Great designer of helicopter engines Sergey Petrovich Izotov !!!
              Very it would be fair call this creation SI-2500
      3. Asadullah
        Asadullah 16 March 2016 17: 58
        +9
        Unfortunately, Klimov will be able to fully provide domestic helicopter engineering with his engines only by the year 20.
        While capacities are barely 10-15% short.


        One hundred engines for one plant, or rather, if according to Peter, two workshops, it is quite normal, but there is also Moscow, there is Perm and a dozen more sites that can connect to production. So, eyes are afraid, hands do ....
        1. Wheel
          Wheel 17 March 2016 00: 03
          +4
          Quote: Asadullah
          and there is still Moscow, there is Perm and a dozen other sites that can connect to production.

          If everything was so simple ..., I pressed the switch - and everything turned on!
          The aircraft engine is not a stool, you can’t knock it on your knee.
          Each plant has its own nuances of technology, often incompatible, i.e. new equipment is required (not cheap, I must say), new personnel (or retraining of old ones), competent technologists at least for the period of production launch (and where can I get them?) ...
          These, you know, don’t throw bonnets into the air ...
      4. igor67
        igor67 16 March 2016 18: 23
        +3
        Quote: Wheel
        Quote: Wolverine
        Well, can they when they want or when they press it down?

        Yes, everything is simpler, the usual PR move.
        Unfortunately, Klimov will be able to fully provide domestic helicopter engineering with his engines only by the year 20.
        While capacities are barely 10-15% short.
        So ... here ..., the rest of the models will go with the Ukrainians ...

        A little earlier, Sergei Chemezov, general director of the Rostec state corporation, which includes the UEC, said in an interview with the Vedomosti newspaper that the production of helicopter engines at the Petersburg Motors plant would reach full design capacity in two years. “By the end of 2017, we will launch our enterprise in St. Petersburg at full capacity. VK-2500 engines for Mi and Ka helicopters will be produced there, as well as new, more powerful TV7-117V engines for the latest Mi-38 helicopters, ”he said. The head of Rostec said that in 2015, 50 engines will be produced in St. Petersburg, in 2016 - 150, and in 2017 - at least 350.
        Exactly they go for export with Ukrainian engines. If last year 50 engines were assembled for roughly 25 cars, how much could they assemble in three more months? But past 28, there are mi24,35, 8, 17, also Kamov cars, see how many are produced, plus engines go to replace the spent resource,
      5. V.ic
        V.ic 16 March 2016 18: 36
        -3
        Quote: Wheel
        only by the year 20.

        Well, damn it, fans of alternative history, when will you smile? request Tiberius Iulius Caesar Augustus rules in Rome / Tiberius Claudius Nero, thirteen years later Jesus the Nazarene crucified, after 17 years Tiberius dies ... repeat Longing damn it ... angry
        1. bannik
          bannik 16 March 2016 19: 18
          +2
          "The clerk, the rogue, saved ink." (C)
          1. bannik
            bannik 16 March 2016 20: 05
            0
            V.ic, "people" did not understand you, minus. Maybe because the + needs twice as much ink?
            1. V.ic
              V.ic 16 March 2016 20: 51
              -2
              Quote: bannik
              V.ic, "people" did not understand you, minus. Maybe because the + needs twice as much ink?

              Thanks for the sympathy! hi T.N. "the people" know better / "the giraffe is big-oh, the pit knows better" /. Laughter hurts more painfully, and therefore the "rat" men, caught in their "exclusivity". I will not become poor, I assure you! hi
        2. ver_
          ver_ 17 March 2016 04: 38
          0
          ... in the time of Christ, Rome - a village - a ruler of an old age ..
      6. 73bor
        73bor 16 March 2016 20: 57
        0
        Nothing will go unequivocally with the Ukrainians, but for now we are doing it on our own!
    4. st25310
      st25310 16 March 2016 19: 14
      +8
      TV3-117VMA: Power 2400 hp Weight 295 kg. Specific fuel consumption: 0,220 kg / hp · h. Assigned resource: 7500 hours.

      VK-2500: Power 2700 hp Weight 300 kg. Specific fuel consumption: 0,220 kg / hp · h. Assigned resource: 9000 hours.
      1. Mayday1981
        Mayday1981 17 March 2016 20: 37
        +1
        You can’t just install a more powerful engine on the helicopter without modifying the transmission, which is almost impossible. One way or another, you will have to limit the maximum power.
        In comparison, it is important that the VK-2500 retains power at higher outdoor temperatures than the TV3-117, has a longer overhaul and designated resource, and it eliminates some minor design flaws of the TV3-117.
        In fact, the transmission will not be able to withstand even the maximum power for the TV3-117 family, or better say, and a fuse restricting the pedal travel has been introduced into the control system.
    5. Bykov.
      Bykov. 16 March 2016 19: 41
      +2
      Quote: Wolverine
      Well, can they when they want or when they press it down?

      Hmm, Obama needs to establish a monument, because he was the first to apply sanctions to us, and forced others ... if only they would not be canceled.
      1. jonht
        jonht 17 March 2016 23: 29
        0
        It is desirable at the grave and a huge one, that would not get out from under the stove, from which they always have zombies apocalypse happen laughing
    6. Alex20042004
      Alex20042004 19 March 2016 16: 25
      0
      Yes, "what does not kill us, it will make us stronger" ...
      We need specialists who are always in short supply. The most important thing is to produce an engine that surpasses the enemy’s existing counterparts in all respects.
  2. Bacha
    Bacha 16 March 2016 17: 07
    +5
    It is high time, let them continue for handouts.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 March 2016 17: 10
    +14
    When press down - then they can. In general, a significant achievement. For two years, to expand the mass production of engines, and yes even better replaceable - more powerful, more economical. It costs a lot.
  4. yuriy55
    yuriy55 16 March 2016 17: 10
    +4
    But how fun it was to sing and dance, and, most importantly, it was thought that without them we won’t be able to ... we won’t pull ... stop

    The whole song, the whole song
    The song ended ... However, like jumping ...
    1. jktu66
      jktu66 16 March 2016 17: 24
      +1
      Why is the time past? And now the "brothers" are jumping, dancing and thinking joyfully how we in Russia, like the last days, are living out. The song is never-ending for those who live in the area. Now they are trumpeting about the defeat of Russia in Syria
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 16 March 2016 17: 30
      0
      The jumps were performed in height, now it is necessary in width and there is no fat. They can do this only by mouth.
  5. izya top
    izya top 16 March 2016 17: 12
    +3
    now Svidurki will also file a lawsuit in this regard fool
    Ukraine, within the framework of the World Trade Organization, initiates a dispute with Russia on the import of products and transit consultations, as well as the right to export to the Russian Federation. This decision was made at a meeting of the Cabinet of Ministers on the proposal of the Ministry of Economy.
    In addition, the government instructed to prepare and send a request for the creation of a group of experts in the case that is being considered by the WTO on the restriction by Russia of the import of rolling stock and railroad switches from Ukraine.
    The Cabinet also allowed to attract legal advisers, including foreign ones, who will protect the interests of Ukraine in a dispute with Russia in the WTO.
    The government also instructed the Ministry of Economic Development and Trade, the Ministries of Foreign Affairs, Finance and Justice to submit to it a draft resolution without delay, which will approve the procedure for protecting the rights of Ukraine’s interests in the economic sphere, in particular using the WTO mechanisms.
    1. FenH
      FenH 16 March 2016 17: 17
      +12
      Europeans themselves did not imagine the association with Ukraine. They thought they would turn into a rich country with preferences on the Russian market. And they got rich people from whom they could give a damn, they were rich only with Russia, and Europe had 40 mil. there are neither desire nor opportunity.
  6. FenH
    FenH 16 March 2016 17: 12
    0
    it remains to wait when Russia certifies new dvigun for MI-26
  7. HAM
    HAM 16 March 2016 17: 15
    +3
    Navy ships also need to set up their production. Good news!
  8. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 16 March 2016 17: 16
    +5
    Well, it was high time to do it. There is nothing to do with bandits.
  9. PKK
    PKK 16 March 2016 17: 17
    0
    The last limitation of the industry has been removed, now the volumes of "Hunters" come on.
  10. newcomer
    newcomer 16 March 2016 17: 20
    +3
    the beauty! at last. expect the same for the navy.
  11. bronik
    bronik 16 March 2016 17: 21
    +16
    Poroshenko banned "any cooperation with Russia" related to the defense complex.

    Almost the topic:
    Poroshenko: - OK, Google. How to return the Crimea?
    Google: - You have already returned the Crimea. The right question is how to repay debts.
  12. rf xnumx
    rf xnumx 16 March 2016 17: 25
    +9
    Recall that military-technical cooperation between the Russian Federation and Ukraine was interrupted in June 2014 after Poroshenko banned “any cooperation with Russia” related to the defense complex
    Yes, what kind of cooperation, what engines they should solve "global" issues ..
  13. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 16 March 2016 17: 35
    -1
    We can when we want ...
  14. MARK
    MARK 16 March 2016 17: 44
    0
    Commendable! Quickly oriented ... I think the documentation and specialists are all in Russia! (they didn’t invent a bicycle) Ukraine does not need high-tech production explicitly (the EU and the USA have been whispering in their ears for 25 years)
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 16 March 2016 19: 26
      +1
      The engine was developed in 2001!
  15. pumba
    pumba 16 March 2016 17: 48
    +3
    Of course, everything should be your own
  16. Havoc
    Havoc 16 March 2016 18: 00
    +3
    Well, on MI-28 Russian engines IK 2500 may be enough. What to do with KA-27, KA-32 helicopters, repair, replacement, most of these helicopters work abroad and they were certified by Ukrainian engines, and those helicopters that were sold for export and repair of engines under warranty should be carried out at Ukrainian plants . So they shit on us in export terms.
    1. bannik
      bannik 16 March 2016 18: 28
      +2
      K-27, K-32 produced less than 300 pieces, are used mainly in Russia and Ukraine (except that Ukraine sold them to someone - this is their problem). For Russia, I hope, reserve engines and
      group spare parts for some time is enough, and then we'll see.
      1. Havoc
        Havoc 16 March 2016 18: 48
        +1
        In South Korea alone, more than 50 KA 32 helicopters are operating, as they say 44 of them need engine repair.
        1. bannik
          bannik 16 March 2016 19: 58
          0
          Even more than 60. In other countries, and 10 is not recruited. But who and at whose expense should the engine repair under the contract do? Maybe the Koreans will not want the Ukrainian engines, they say, we will wait until the Russians drive, we will see.
    2. goose
      goose 17 March 2016 09: 43
      0
      Quote: Havoc
      most of these helicopters operate abroad and they were certified specifically by Ukrainian engines

      Given the quantity, it is logical to certify with VK engines.
  17. Mayday1981
    Mayday1981 16 March 2016 18: 07
    -11%
    And where are the components for VK-2500 made?
    Is it not in Zaporozhye?
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 16 March 2016 19: 00
      +2
      Not a single nail from Zaporozhye is there - in the first VK-2500 not quite TV3-117, in the second order ...
      1. The comment was deleted.
  18. qwert111
    qwert111 16 March 2016 18: 08
    +3
    What engines for Russian helicopters, for Ukraine it is "shallow"! They have a new trend, they are developing a rocket with naked and skinny asses and a huge inflamed all-Ukrainian brain, which can "fly" to Chelyabinsk !!! fellow
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 16 March 2016 18: 19
      +3
      Quote: qwert111
      which can "fly" to Chelyabinsk !!!

      On the train platform, if customs miss.
  19. black
    black 16 March 2016 18: 12
    0
    For this it is not a sin to drink.
  20. BOB044
    BOB044 16 March 2016 18: 23
    -2
    Well, they can when it presses. And why immediately produce and set your own. It seems we are not miserable and hands from the right place are growing.
  21. Sergey333
    Sergey333 16 March 2016 18: 35
    +4
    Quote: MARK
    Commendable! Quickly oriented ... I think the documentation and specialists are all in Russia! (they didn’t invent a bicycle) Ukraine does not need high-tech production explicitly (the EU and the USA have been whispering in their ears for 25 years)

    Developer - Klimov, p. Petersburg, they have all the documentation. The problem was to deploy mass production. Was ... Now no longer wink
  22. Havoc
    Havoc 16 March 2016 19: 05
    +2
    The Klimov company will begin mass production of engines for Mi-series helicopters without parts of the Ukrainian Motor Sich enterprise in 2016-2017, said Maxim Meiksin, chairman of the St. Petersburg Committee for Industrial Policy and Innovation.

    0
    “Speaking specifically about the localization of production of VK-2500 helicopter engines, now the task is to switch to mass production, up to 350 units in 2017. In 2014, Klimov assembled the first 10 engines entirely from Russian components. Therefore, we can say that the production of Russian engines has been mastered, the question is about reducing their cost, ”said Meixin TASS.

    And as they say they need 600 engines a year, so who is deceiving whom.
  23. wow
    wow 16 March 2016 19: 45
    0
    Well done guys !!!
  24. Sergey333
    Sergey333 16 March 2016 19: 54
    +1
    Quote: Havoc
    And as they say they need 600 engines a year, so who is deceiving whom.

    Count the production of helicopters, and some of them use imported engines, a consumer’s whim, so where to put 600 engines a year? request They do not need so much.
  25. atamankko
    atamankko 16 March 2016 21: 07
    0
    Let the "non-brothers" rejoice.
  26. Moon Cat
    Moon Cat 16 March 2016 22: 25
    +2
    Its engines are good only Motor Sich with our Klimov’s branches in Primorsky ra = do not equal it’s not worth the power; such a plant willn’t let go anytime every day from work .... the brothers will certainly rejoice .. only there are 30 percent of them no more than the rest brothers.
  27. Wolka
    Wolka 17 March 2016 05: 18
    0
    and it couldn’t be otherwise, the domestic defense industry, by definition, should be autonomous and logistically independent across the entire spectrum of products ...
  28. Zomanus
    Zomanus 17 March 2016 05: 37
    0
    Well, in general, it is logical. Ukraine no longer delivers engines to us,
    stocks of Ukrainian engines in warehouses ran out.
    Well, in general, nothing else remains, as on their own
    engine go over. Production is established,
    technologies worked out, it remains to increase volumes.
  29. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 March 2016 07: 55
    +1
    In general, smart people with strategic thinking initially set up the production of military equipment and its components on their territory. Especially taking into account the experience of the Second World War, when hundreds of factories had to be relocated. It is possible to import bananas or Lambert cheese with oysters, we will somehow survive their absence, as for the defense or security of the country, these things should be the number one priority. So much for new factories and jobs. And our Ulyukaev talks about oil prices, it is necessary to drive such people on kicks, it is scary to entrust him with a construction team.
  30. EvilLion
    EvilLion 17 March 2016 08: 24
    0
    Salo dropped!
    Hero sala!
  31. dvg1959
    dvg1959 17 March 2016 13: 32
    0
    Military-technical cooperation between the Russian Federation and Ukraine was interrupted. Thank you very much for that.
    As for the number, a start has been made, and the rest will follow. And being dependent on Ukraine is not promising and risky.
  32. qwert
    qwert 17 March 2016 15: 28
    0
    Quote: Asadullah
    One hundred engines for one plant, or rather, if according to Peter, two workshops, it is quite normal, but there is also Moscow, there is Perm and a dozen more sites that can connect to production. So, eyes are afraid, hands do ....

    What are you talking about? Of course they can theoretically. So PAKFu was originally planned to be transferred to the series in 2016. Do not just forget that in our country, the oligarchs first profit, and then state programs. Therefore, a dozen sites will not connect soon. This is Russia, this is not the USSR
  33. qwert
    qwert 17 March 2016 15: 34
    0
    Quote: qwert111
    What engines for Russian helicopters, for Ukraine it is "shallow"! They have a new trend, they are developing a rocket with naked and skinny asses and a huge inflamed all-Ukrainian brain, which can "fly" to Chelyabinsk !!!

    It is in the Yuzhnoye design bureau that Satan was developed by the Dnepropetrovsk plant, that it was produced? Then they can. There would be a desire. The best tank and missile design bureaus remained in Ukraine. But there was one country. And now the Americans have driven a wedge between the brothers, and in our country most of the country continues to finish this wedge, feeling joy that "a neighbor's horse died." What have they turned us into ?????
  34. complete zero
    complete zero 17 March 2016 15: 37
    0
    Quote: Wolverine
    Well, can they when they want or when they press it down?

    yes they could always ... they just let the "Ukrainians" brothers make money ... and even X times they think that it is a blessing for them to "end" their production, just not to cooperate with the damned yami ... O.T.I.Z.M.O.M)
  35. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 17 March 2016 17: 28
    0
    Well, the engines for helicopters have moved off the ground, but how are things with GTU for large ships? Either the Indians will sell, or they will rust in their place at the wall.
  36. Matsuda Kabushiki
    Matsuda Kabushiki 17 March 2016 17: 43
    0
    I may have missed, "great Ukrainians" assemble their engine from 100% of their components?
    1. serohim
      serohim 19 March 2016 07: 54
      0
      Not really. Russian Stainless.
  37. Mayday1981
    Mayday1981 17 March 2016 17: 52
    0
    At least some time ago, all VK-2500s were made from Zaporizhzhya sets.
    Is that the BARK-78 were of Russian production.
    The engine consists of many parts: fuel automation (HP), ignition system, turbocharger, free turbine, gearbox, air starter, freewheel (MCX), etc. etc.
    It does not seem true that the manufacture of all engine components is localized in the Russian Federation. Assembling and testing is far from a complete production cycle.
    We must pay tribute - they successfully replaced the Ukrainian pr-va AI-9 APU, but again, I saw only the Czech counterpart SAFIR. They say there are Russian, but, for example, the same Czech APU is put on helicopters of the Arctic Ocean (special flight squad).
    Also, I have not heard about the Russian analogue of the American searchlight SX-16 (placed on most helicopters of the Ministry of Emergencies and customs).
    We learned how to make good electronics, again from imported elements.
    So do not shout slogans, better understand the essence of the matter.
    1. dali
      dali 17 March 2016 23: 44
      0
      Quote: Mayday1981
      At least some time ago, all VK-2500s were made from Zaporizhzhya sets.
      Is that the BARK-78 were of Russian production.
      The engine consists of many parts: fuel automation (HP), ignition system, turbocharger, free turbine, gearbox, air starter, freewheel (MCX), etc. etc.
      It does not seem true that the manufacture of all engine components is localized in the Russian Federation. Assembling and testing is far from a complete production cycle.
      We must pay tribute - they successfully replaced the Ukrainian pr-va AI-9 APU, but again, I saw only the Czech counterpart SAFIR. They say there are Russian, but, for example, the same Czech APU is put on helicopters of the Arctic Ocean (special flight squad).
      Also, I have not heard about the Russian analogue of the American searchlight SX-16 (placed on most helicopters of the Ministry of Emergencies and customs).
      We learned how to make good electronics, again from imported elements.
      So do not shout slogans, better understand the essence of the matter.


      What indefatigable you are - they already told you that in VK-2500 there is not a single Ukrainian piece of iron, Platmasmaski, little hamlets ...

      You there in Zaporozhye personally report, where are the components coming from now?

      You would be better off shouting may day 1981 times for your salvation ... and we can figure it out without you.
      1. Mayday1981
        Mayday1981 18 March 2016 17: 41
        0
        Do you believe everything you are told? This is the first.
        Second, unlike you, I know how a helicopter engine works because it is part of my job.
        Third, who are we? And why do you want to deal with what you don’t understand anything about?
  38. Brain Yurich
    Brain Yurich 17 March 2016 18: 30
    0
    Quote: silver_roman
    By the way: what are the advantages of our VK-2500 over Ukrainian?

    the question is very correct, I would like to read a little about the characteristics
    1. Mayday1981
      Mayday1981 April 1 2016 20: 38
      0
      Please.
    2. Mayday1981
      Mayday1981 April 1 2016 20: 46
      0
      Please:
  39. AGG024
    AGG024 17 March 2016 18: 56
    0
    But you can not depend on anyone at all. Not in agriculture, nor in heavy or light industry. Moreover, it’s kind of like this already happened. And we had sanctions like a flea’s dog.
  40. Orionvit
    Orionvit 17 March 2016 19: 52
    +3
    Quote: Wolverine
    Well, can they when they want or when they press it down?

    Actually, TV3-117 and VK-2500 are one and the same engine developed by the plant. Klimov, only different modifications. Simply in Zaporozhye at "Motor Sich" there is a great experience and well-established production of these motors since the 70s. years, where they are brought almost to perfection. Everyone who operates Russian helicopters all over the world knows about it. Regarding the complete replacement of these motors with completely Russian ones (although this is a matter of time), I don’t know, but I know for sure (first-hand) that the motors (factory name “product number 78” or simply “78 machine”) are assembled, tested, and sent to Russia, only without fuel equipment (which is already produced in Russia), so they are not considered a product and are not subject to sanctions. And on the issue of peremoga, at least on Motor Sich, everyone is in shock. To ruin the aviation giant, and to rejoice, only full pri.d.r.k.i are capable of this.
    1. wolfhound
      wolfhound 18 March 2016 20: 25
      0
      and fuel equipment separately from the engine also does not fall under the sanction?
  41. aba
    aba 18 March 2016 05: 10
    0
    I will say a little: GREAT! smile
  42. 149GB
    149GB 18 March 2016 07: 57
    +1
    We probably would have said goodbye to engines from Hohland for a long time. But the fraternal people needed something to do! And often to the detriment of their country. Oboronka our economy still pull! And let those fools now look for where to put the engines.
  43. wolfhound
    wolfhound 18 March 2016 20: 23
    0
    I wonder how Serdukov react to the performance of his duties? if with diligence, then in a year licensed Sikorsky and other Western toys will be collected at the plants ... and local people will tear up farts and prove that this is Putin’s next tricky plan, and how cool we all were, and admire how smart and our cunning President
    Who interfered before the imposition of sanctions, when there was money too, to establish a full production cycle and work out the serial production of these engines in the volumes that are needed ????
    1. serohim
      serohim 19 March 2016 08: 10
      0
      The serial plant is not two workshops (as some people write here). The Chinese got technology and the plant was built, and the engines are on. (They probably forget to process the files after assembly). Now, crowds are running around the motor looking for that file.
      There is an opinion that it is easier to annex the entire southeast and get the whole technological chain together with a finished plant and specialists. Moreover, there are a lot of interesting things on S-V besides aircraft engines.
  44. Torins
    Torins 18 March 2016 20: 29
    0
    Quote: Gogia
    A full launch is how they announced 300 a year. And you need 1000 pcs.

    So much is not necessary, except at first - to replace TV3-117))
  45. msm
    msm 19 March 2016 14: 03
    0
    Congratulations on this important achievement! Good luck in your future work!
  46. Deckofficer
    Deckofficer 19 March 2016 14: 07
    0
    Why immediately after the collapse of the USSR it was not done?
  47. Dmitriy51
    Dmitriy51 19 March 2016 16: 15
    0
    slowly but surely.
    If this path is not abandoned, sooner or later we will not depend on other suppliers, and we will be able to dictate the terms ourselves.