JSC "Cathode" plans in a year or two to begin production of the 4 generation of night vision devices

Novosibirsk enterprise "Cathode" plans to begin production of night vision devices (NVD) 4-th generation, reports MIC With reference to the head of the company Sergey Kesayev.

“There are plans for new products. If we now produce third-generation devices, this year it will be the 3-plus - that is, the third with the best performance. Maybe in a year or two it will be possible to talk about the fourth generation. Preliminary developments on instruments of the fifth generation are also underway, ”said Kesayev.

According to him, "to establish the production of fourth-generation devices is relatively easy, since from the most modern at the moment they differ only in technical characteristics." But the 5-generation devices "will have a fundamentally different design."

“The problem here is that the components necessary for them are not produced in Russia. But, I think the fifth generation is the question of the next few years, ”the director said.

He explained that, at present, the 3 generation generation NVGs are considered the most modern, and “only three companies in the world could master their mass production: two of them are in the USA, the third is Cathode”.

Help newspaper: "" Cathode "grew out of based in 1959 year design bureau. It produces electro-optical converters (EOC) and equipment based on them, including night vision devices and night vision cameras. It produces products of both military and civil purposes. "

Comments

[Arh]

That's good !!! His Native !!!

[MARK]

Quote: Arh

That's good !!! His Native !!!

I think so far not everything is inside there dear .. But commendable yet!

[Pravdarm]

Pleases !!!
Only someone (spec) would explain What is the difference between the characteristics of the NVG Generations? 1,2,3,4 and if possible 5 (, 6 ...) Thanks in advance!

[Samaritan]

Here you can see the difference: http: //katodnv.com/en/catalog/prizely-nochnogo-videnya/
In a nutshell, about how ordinary optical sights differ!

[russmensch]

They differ in size, weight, screen resolution, and other data. As an example, look at the old APN-5-40 PNV for the 100 mm rapier cannon and compare with more modern ones. I worked for them, so only the weight of this bandura was about 30 kg, and how much difficulty in work is beyond counting. It’s not so, to my delight.

[Blondy]

Quote: Pravdarm

Only someone (spec) would explain What is the difference between the characteristics of the NVG Generations? 1,2,3,4 and if possible 5 (, 6 ...) Thanks in advance!

And still to compare with samples of the best world manufacturers, devices of what generation they collect.

[Botanologist]

Quite good quality and thermal imagers, and NVD. 3 generation of thermal imagers has enough eyes, the 3 NVD allows you to see 90% of targets at night without IR illumination and shoot at 75%. For the rest, you need a backlight (like if a boar is in the shade of a tree behind a clearing illuminated by the moon).

[guzik007]

Completely good quality and thermal imagers,
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I remember that in 88 they gave us a thermal imager for testing. the only thing he "saw" was the included iron: =)

[evge-malyshev]

Quote: Pravdarm

What is the difference between the characteristics of the NVG Generations? 1,2,3,4 and if possible 5 (, 6 ...) Thanks in advance!

Internet - "night vision devices-generation" - find?

[gavrosh.ru]

yeah - even better in hunting forums. Before, the coolest night sights in St. Petersburg were made - cooler than the western ones. biting current at a price .... (I could not understand the meaning of the evolution of these products when firing at 150 meters)

[Manul]

Quote: evge-malyshev

Internet - "night vision devices-generation" - find?

And what is shameful in this matter? A normal tradition is to lay out general technical information about the subject of discussion. Neither the erased video, nor the well-known TTX will never spoil the thread, and here the topic is not the most common. What is difficult for you to do for people who are interested in the topic, a gesture just from the heart? VO has a huge number of readers.
And who, if not specialists in their field, or simply knowledgeable, shares this knowledge?
While I was going to collect the requested information, I found a curious video. So I'll post it, it's on the topic.

[Botanologist]

Traditionally, a night vision device allows you to see at night. 1 generation sees in the UK spectrum, it needs backlighting. 2 - also with backlight, but weaker and in a narrow range. 3 generation sees without illumination up to 80-90% of goals.
On the hunt, the guys and I use the 3 generation of NVDs, transport is visible for kilometers on 5 at night, the boar of a kilometer beyond 1,5 (if there is no fog and drizzle, and a little cloud), elk away.
4 generation has a wider angle of view and clarity.
5 did not hold in hands.

And I’m asking you not to confuse NVD with thermal imagers, everything is different there.
The difference between the NVD and the thermal imager:
If in a dark room 2 cats, one on the battery, the second on a black rug, then in the NVD and thermal imager you see only one. NVD - on the battery, in the thermal imager - on a black rug.

[gladcu2]

Botanologist

Whose production do you use the thermal imager. There is an active element in the production of which is established in only a few countries. In my opinion this is Israel, France. Other manufacturers are considered inferior.

[Botanologist]

Three have a US matrix, two with Belorussian. Both those and those are suitable for hunting without restrictions. Since last year, ours have gone, normal.

[Botanologist]

Three have a US matrix, two with Belorussian. Both those and those are suitable for hunting without restrictions. Since last year, ours have gone, normal.

[Eduard Egorov]

And yes, it's all inside. And few people do everything completely their own. Why can't Russia do this? When the whole world does it and they don't care.

[Ahmed]

... at present, the most modern NVDs of the 3rd generation are considered, and "only three companies in the world could master their serial production: two of them are located in the USA, the third is Kathode" ...

Of course they love the hurray-journalists, if objectively it is impossible to talk about "having no analogues", then at least about the "second honorary".

Alas, the facts are a little different. Generation 3+ has been producing conveyor belts in the USA, Israel, France and several other countries for a couple of years.

I do not want to underestimate the merits of the Katod company, which is catching up with the leaders by leaps and bounds, but it is worth assessing the current situation adequately. Relax early.

Generations 4 and 5 today are developing in a peculiar way, these are technologies for the synthesis of classic NV and thermal imagers, as well as technologies for digital processing and integration with augmented reality systems.

As examples of 4 generations:

[Eduard Egorov]

Russia has generations 3+, the fact is that they produce the matrix itself, and not night vision devices. Even more countries produce night vision devices, but not so many countries produce matrices.

[Ramzes33]

It is sincerely pleasing that there are enterprises in Russia that produce so necessary and at the same time competitive products.

[GSH-18]

JSC "Cathode" plans in a year or two to begin production of the 4 generation of night vision devices

This is a buzz! Let the guys, success to you!

[Sirocco]

I have such a modest hope that with the start of production of Russian components, the price of these products and of thermal imagers will drop. Now the price tag is heavily horseback on those products above 1+.

[Mountain shooter]

It's not about Russian components, but about mass production. A product with a large share of manual labor, not a conveyor assembly, will always be ten times more expensive than a conveyor. And how many products do they produce? Well, a thousand - two a month. And how many workers in this enterprise? That's why the price bites.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

That's why the price bites.

Not only. Good optics for big money is always and everywhere.

[poquello]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

It's not about Russian components, but about mass production. A product with a large share of manual labor, not a conveyor assembly, will always be ten times more expensive than a conveyor. And how many products do they produce? Well, a thousand - two a month. And how many workers in this enterprise? That's why the price bites.

only three companies in the world were able to master serial production: two of them are located in the USA, the third is "Cathode"

the price is market, they are the best and the United States imposed sanctions on them because of selfish competition, but along the way - the Cathode has over 10% of the world market, it was announced that they would bring up to 20%, well done

[dmi.pris1]

Now we need to catch up on the thermal imagers .. And deal closely with the elemental base ..

[xam0]

Maybe they will finally provide our army with the most modern night vision devices, or else they’re tired of listening to moaning for a lack of imported components. Any weapon for round-the-clock combat operations begins with the NVD.

[Dmitry Potapov]

All! Now Breedlove will demand even more money. He will say that the device is nuclear.

[dmi.pris1]

Will say that vigorous ..

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

All! Now Breedlove will demand even more money. He will say that the device is nuclear.

[I read the news]

Skip 3+ and 4, and immediately release the fifth generation.

[K-50]

Quote: I readNews

Skip 3+ and 4, and immediately release the fifth generation.

The concept has not yet been developed, there is no technology and equipment, and you already "release!"
Trim the "sturgeon"

[andrei72]

The future belongs to combined systems (from the NVD and the thermal imager, in one case): the thermal imager cannot distinguish the terrain, etc., having the same external surface temperature, and the NVD is not able to distinguish low-contrast targets in the thermal range. Combining these 2 devices, a new level of the aiming complex is obtained. So the development of NVDs is necessary, but ... in terms of efficiency, so far, thermal imagers come to the first place, and NVDs will probably be as an addition ..

[Vadim237]

There are thermal imaging binoculars day - night.

[Botanologist]

Quote: andrei72

The future belongs to combined systems (from NVD and thermal imager, in one case): a thermal imager cannot distinguish terrain and others having the same external surface temperature, and NVD is not able to distinguish low-contrast targets in the thermal range.

This is a question for use. A normal night vision device above the 3rd generation allows itself to work at night on targets of the "boar" type at a shot range. At the same time, everything around is visible.
The thermal imager allows you to see elk kilometers behind 5-7, but what's the point?
A roe deer and wild boar you are far from uglyaddy. Not to mention the reindeer or the seal (there the insulation is quite serious).

This is because the contrasting target may not appear, and in the night vision you will see movement at least. Unless, of course, we are talking about practical application, and not about the theory of sniping.

In short - it hunts equally well with both NVD and thermal imager. But with NVD, vision suffers less (after a thermal imager, the eyes hurt greatly). And if the target is smart \ and is hiding - it is better to have a panoramic NVD and a thermal imager. It’s simpler and easier than sculpting a multi-mode child prodigy on the barrel and clicking the mode button all night.

[kagorta]

And what are the French not quoted)?

[Ze Kot]

Quote: kagorta

And what are the French not quoted)?

I also thought that our matrices were bought from Talos ...

[PKK]

Quote: andrei72

The future belongs to combined systems (from the NVD and the thermal imager, in one case): the thermal imager cannot distinguish the terrain, etc., having the same external surface temperature, and the NVD is not able to distinguish low-contrast targets in the thermal range. Combining these 2 devices, a new level is obtained.

Do not forget that NVD emits, but there is no thermal imager.

[Lopatov]

Quote: PKK

Do not forget that NVD emits, but there is no thermal imager.

You are not quite right. Without IR illumination, the NVDs of the zero and first generations could not work normally.

[52]

Oh, I wouldn’t be late, NVDs are needed very much, and if, in order to reduce the cost of the series, they will also be launched into mass civil production, for sale to the population, then very much For! In thermal imagers and NVDs we are always in the role of catch-ups, with staff and frog-eaters a number of devices surpass our army models in performance characteristics, and it is the mass operation of these devices not only in the Army, but also among hunters. rescuers, naturalists-photographers and other extreme tourists, as well as among ordinary farmers (yes, this device is not superfluous for the farmer) made it possible to create perfect samples in terms of reliability and mass-dimensional characteristics, and a series in quantity allowed to remove part of the costs for production and save on testing. If only you don't follow the path of "exclusivity and kickbacks" ...

[CRASH]

JSC "Cathode" plans in a year or two to begin production of the 4 generation of night vision devices

Forgive Christ, but did anyone see the first 3 generations, somewhere? I saw nightlights on SVD and 74M, and where on the helmet?

[gladcu2]

Crash

Take this opportunity to. Does anyone have information about the first practical use of NVD in small arms?

What year, what theater of operations?

[Rash]

IMHO Donbass, summer 2014, Ilovaisk, when the North wind blew.

[CRASH]

I know that even in the Second World War, IR sights were installed on stormgivers, and in Afghanistan, night lights were installed 1PN93, but they are "twilight", that is, they work in the light of the moon and stars)

[dvg1959]

Yes, with such "goggles" of night vision, you can silently neutralize the enemy under cover of darkness.

[PKK]

You can, if your enemy does not have a smart dog. The dog will raise an alarm and they will start looking for you.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

For me, it’s for such labor collectives that have preserved invaluable production and scientific potential since the devastation of the 90s to give out awards and prizes to all ... They dedicated their whole life to this business and did not run away like many now to the West and the USA ... For all Amer’s calculations, we should no longer have any military production, but it’s not just that it is the best in the world ...

[PKK]

Quote: evge-malyshev

Why do you need it?

Present to anyone. What a silly question.

[crambol]

Again, run into the tuvalet at night.

[Skym]

Pleases, pleases)))

[thinker]

"Only three companies in the world were able to master their serial production: two of them are located in the USA, the third is Kathode"

And further -

Sights with new electron-optical converters (EOP) were produced by the Holding's Novosibirsk company - Shvabe - Defense and Defense JSC - in two types: with 2+ and 3 generation generation EOPs. It is also important that both converters are of Russian manufacture.

http://shvabe.com/press/news/shvabe-nachal-seriynyy-vypusk-nochnykh-pritselov-s-
novymi-eop /

[Zomanus]

Interestingly, civilian versions will be?
In general, of course, it pleases us that we are among the leaders in this area.

[Wolka]

too few of these things, unfortunately too few in stock

[Alex von Dorn]

Catch up, catch up .... happy!