Polish Defense Minister stated that for Polish soldiers who were trained in military institutions of the USSR of the Polish military, further service in the Polish Armed Forces is impossible

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A few days ago, Polish Defense Minister Anthony Matserevich declared that the highest military ranks who received military education in the Soviet Union now cannot count on continuing their careers in the Polish army. Such a statement Matserevicha reports Polish radio station Rmf fm, which allegedly alleges an informal conversation between the Minister of Defense and journalists.

Polish Defense Minister stated that for Polish soldiers who were trained in military institutions of the USSR of the Polish military, further service in the Polish Armed Forces is impossible


The material states that the head of the Polish Defense Ministry stated that if a Polish soldier began his career in the army before 1989, while being educated in the USSR, then further promotion along the career ladder was closed for him, as was the service itself as part of the Polish command.

Mentioned radio station Rmf fm reports that Matserevich's “unofficial” conversation with journalists has already led to the fact that about a quarter of the entire Polish armed forces commanders submitted a report, including four Polish generals. Their names are not yet named.

If the dismissal of the generals really happened for the reason voiced by RMF FM, then it probably means that there are fears among the curators of official Warsaw about the very possibility of having senior officers in the command staff of loyal Russia. In turn, this means that the emphasis will be placed solely on those who were trained according to the “NATO system”, which concerns exclusively the implementation of plans for the sowing of chaos in the world and the continuation of provoking Russia. Given the fact that already in 2018, the infrastructure of the US missile defense system will appear in Poland, for the Polish state the presence of exclusively “NATO” generals in command takes on special significance.
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  1. +34
    3 March 2016 17: 56
    Psheks are rude ... do they really think that the elder brother will really help them with something in case of conflict? Self-confident ... such strong steel. Sometimes you listen to the statements of their politicians and the thought comes to your mind that little Fritz Lyuli pressed them in due time. It was necessary to have more (God forgive me!), Maybe roosters would have been quieter.
    1. +31
      3 March 2016 18: 05
      God, what’s it that this little ass is stuck in the ass with? His eyes got out of their sockets.
      1. +7
        3 March 2016 18: 14
        Spies of the Kremlin seem to be!
        received a military education in the Soviet Union
        1. +6
          3 March 2016 18: 52
          That’s good.
          Worse if real training is underway. And Polish Generals who know Russian personally, and not from propaganda, will be an obstacle to this.
          1. +4
            3 March 2016 19: 13
            Quote: kugu
            Worse if real training is underway. And Polish Generals who know Russian personally, and not from propaganda, will be an obstacle to this.

            Yes, the methods are similar to the Ukrainian ones: they first corrode the memory.
            1. +1
              3 March 2016 21: 36
              In my opinion (in the photo) he poops and drives flies away with his hands!
              1. +1
                3 March 2016 21: 44
                and - this is after !!!
                But what happened during the exertion:
            2. +5
              3 March 2016 22: 09
              Quote: Blondy
              Yes, the methods are similar to the Ukrainian ones: they first corrode the memory.

              ... more precisely, the American methods are simply applied both in Ukraine and Poland ... hi
          2. +3
            3 March 2016 19: 15
            Quote: kugu

            Worse if real training is underway.


            And you have doubts.
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        2. +6
          3 March 2016 19: 37
          Quote: Pravdarm
          Spies of the Kremlin seem to be!
          received a military education in the Soviet Union

          that if a Polish soldier began his career in the army before 1989, while having received his education in the USSR, then his further career advancement was closed to him, just like the service itself as part of the Polish command.
          About a quarter of the entire Polish Armed Forces commanders submitted a report, including four Polish generals.

          Psheks do not finish. Spies leave and crawl without control throughout the country.

          In general, there is also a plus in this. They squeeze out experienced adequate personnel who really know a potential enemy. Not by hearsay or book, but the whole system of preparation and thinking. Knowing the culture of warfare. Come on, come on. And then, oh we did not expect such deceit.
      2. +10
        3 March 2016 18: 22
        Quote: vovanpain
        God, what’s it that this little ass is stuck in the ass with? His eyes got out of their sockets.

        lol And he raised his hands by genetic memory or by habit just in case.
        1. +2
          3 March 2016 18: 43
          There was an episode in the movie "Saving Private Ryan" - after the landing in Normandy, the Americans seized the fortifications and then Fritz climbs out of the trench with his hands raised and such goggled eyes and shouts "Niht schissen !!" the Americans naturally killed him and began to check his carcass for nishtyakov. And then one amer asks another - "what did Fritz say before his death?" The second answers (raising his hands) -he said- "look, I washed my hands before dinner" smile
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      3. +3
        3 March 2016 18: 47
        I will answer briefly - he did not cut the fly. fellow
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      5. +4
        3 March 2016 18: 58
        So is Antek the police chief, now the Minister of Defense. Everyone who follows Polish affairs knows him well. He has a mess with his head, but damn seductive. His favorite topic is the Smolensk disaster, which, in his opinion, happened not without the participation of Russians.
      6. 0
        3 March 2016 19: 27
        Quote: vovanpain
        God, what’s it that this little ass is stuck in the ass with? His eyes got out of their sockets.

        Perdolina. lol COUPLING
      7. 0
        3 March 2016 19: 40
        Quote: vovanpain
        God, what’s it that this little ass is stuck in the ass with? His eyes got out of their sockets.

        Yes, it seems that the pan is not even from the province, but from the outback. And what kind of national policy to ask him?
      8. +1
        3 March 2016 19: 42
        Quote: vovanpain
        There are already eyes from the orbits climbed

        The joke was remembered:
        There is a biology lesson at school. The teacher Vovochka called to the blackboard, asks: - "Why is the flounder flat?"
        - "The whale slept with her"
        - "Why does the crab have bulging eyes?"
        - "Because he saw it all" ...
        P.S. A little off topic, just remembered feel
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    2. +33
      3 March 2016 18: 09
      Photo class!

      Matserevich eye
      Crawling out of orbits
      Because behind your back
      Russian "polite" is worth it!
      And with such a stupid face
      Only one thing remains:
      Raise your arms
      From the USA go to the bottom!
      wink drinks
    3. +9
      3 March 2016 18: 10
      Pshek thus deprive their army of the most qualified and experienced officers. And what will the NATO standard give them and when - hell knows.
      1. +2
        3 March 2016 18: 23
        Let them move to us ... to our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation .... Soviet military education is not very bad)
        1. +2
          3 March 2016 19: 11
          Quote: pavel_SPB
          Let them move to us ... to our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation .... Soviet military education is not very bad)



          Polish army to recreate? wink
          1. 0
            3 March 2016 19: 30
            Quote: The Cat
            Quote: pavel_SPB
            Let them move to us ... to our Armed Forces of the Russian Federation .... Soviet military education is not very bad)



            Polish army to recreate? wink

            Do not need a second Anders negative
            1. 0
              4 March 2016 10: 43
              Quote: sgazeev
              Do not need a second Anders


              Anders to Iran, if not mistaken, dumped.

              Lieutenant General Zygmunt Burling wink
        2. +3
          3 March 2016 19: 59
          Rokossovsky, Malinovsky, Chernyakhovsky, Vasilevsky, Tukhachevsky ... Plus Dzerzhinsky. The Poles owe us compensation, it’s not us, but they made a revolution with us, we must show it! :)))
          1. +1
            3 March 2016 21: 19
            Quote: vladimir_krm
            Rokossovsky, Malinovsky, Chernyakhovsky, Vasilevsky,

            But do not touch these.
            1. 0
              4 March 2016 16: 37
              Poles of one have already touched, if you are in the know :(
      2. +10
        3 March 2016 19: 15
        We will rejoice for a country that always finds itself in a historical asshole.
      3. 0
        3 March 2016 23: 01
        Quote: DMB_95
        Pshek thus deprive their army of the most qualified and experienced officers.

        And they automatically get embittered and well-trained opposition to power. Tired of them living in peace. Or really fools, or purposefully destroy the army.
    4. +3
      3 March 2016 18: 22
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Psheks are rude ... do they really think that the elder brother will really help them with something in case of conflict? Self-confident ... such strong steel.

      laughing Self-confident and strong usually do not be rude, but rather behave calmly and relaxed, they do not need to prove anything to someone.
      1. +5
        3 March 2016 18: 52
        I think so too. All this fuss of inferiority. There is a saying - "the eagle does not bite flies." And all these psheki, sprotoeaters ... ugh on them ... it rode, it hurt. hi
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    5. +1
      3 March 2016 19: 39
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Do they really think that the elder brother will really help them in something in case of conflict?

      Not a brother OH lyakham, but "master - master master"
    6. 0
      3 March 2016 21: 17
      I have long wanted a repetition for all these "brothers" of history. Only this time to watch them die without sacrificing millions of lives of our compatriots. In Bulgaria, Erdogan was invited to celebrate the liberation from the Ottoman yoke. and we are passing by.
    7. aba
      0
      3 March 2016 22: 47
      Psheki are rude ..

      No ... They simply prepare the high command for a war with Russia. Those who studied in the USSR know that they should not climb to the East, and those who prepared in the West cherish the dream that NATO will help them, like Mishko at one time ...
    8. 0
      3 March 2016 23: 22
      Well, the Minister of Defense cannot have such eyes ... under any circumstances ... negative
    9. +1
      4 March 2016 08: 22
      In the event of a war, the USA will help them in the same way as France and Britain in 1939.
  2. +11
    3 March 2016 17: 56
    Polish Defense Minister stated that for Polish soldiers who were trained in military institutions of the USSR of the Polish military, further service in the Polish Armed Forces is impossible

    The witch hunt has begun! Well, in the "good" way psheki! am
    1. +3
      3 March 2016 18: 06
      Yes, they are already retired, these military, graduates of our universities .. Remembered about them ..
      Quote: GSH-18
      Polish Defense Minister stated that for Polish soldiers who were trained in military institutions of the USSR of the Polish military, further service in the Polish Armed Forces is impossible

      The witch hunt has begun! Well, in the "good" way psheki! am
      1. 0
        3 March 2016 18: 14
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Yes, they are already retired, these military, graduates of our universities .. Remembered about them ..

        It turns out not all ..
  3. 0
    3 March 2016 17: 57
    Russia will need them more ...
  4. +4
    3 March 2016 17: 57
    Why is his eyes so wild, sick or something ???
    1. +4
      3 March 2016 18: 03
      Quote: horoh
      Why is his eyes so wild, sick or something ???

      Only from Amsterdam ... lol
    2. +1
      3 March 2016 18: 07
      Constipation tortured .. There was only diarrhea of ​​words ..
      Quote: horoh
      Why is his eyes so wild, sick or something ???
    3. 0
      3 March 2016 21: 43
      Quote: horoh
      Why is his eyes so wild, sick or something ???


      - Uncle Wolf, why do you have such big eyes?
      - Go away, Little Red Riding Hood, you don’t see - I poop!
      (Old children's joke wink )
  5. +3
    3 March 2016 17: 58
    Not too late to catch up? For 26 years, you could go far up the career ladder.
    1. +5
      3 March 2016 18: 22
      taking into account the fact that they all (senior officers) studied in the USSR, the Polish army will now be left without a senior command staff at all, just about a quarter will be ...
      This is probably an option worse than 1937 ...

      recourse And if the Germans decide to repeat 1939 - but in a new way - by power pushing refugees to Poland-on Poland betting will be confused-7 days and the government in London
  6. +4
    3 March 2016 17: 58
    It did not work with Ukraine, now the Poles are preparing for a direct clash with Russia.
  7. Pig
    +2
    3 March 2016 18: 05
    the witch hunt has begun ...
    in the states in the 50-60s, they also cut not only "red" but also "pale pink" ...
  8. +6
    3 March 2016 18: 08
    It seems to him that the Soviet soldier tried on. The Pole has hands uphill, bulging eyes and probably pants are damp. soldier
    1. 0
      3 March 2016 18: 34
      Quote: Captive
      It seems to him that the Soviet soldier tried on. The Pole has hands uphill, bulging eyes and probably pants are damp. soldier

      Yes, they all have one "fear" now. Either the diarrhea came up in fright, or in anticipation I drank on the topic request
    2. 0
      3 March 2016 19: 36
      Quote: Captive
      It seems to him that the Soviet soldier tried on. The Pole has hands uphill, bulging eyes and probably pants are damp. soldier

      What a Valenca-Bolek, such a guide. It is better to overdo it than under ..... bully
  9. +3
    3 March 2016 18: 09
    Yes, and the flag in their ass, fire professionals and gain managers
  10. +3
    3 March 2016 18: 09
    It's okay, the Psheks will recruit effective managers in exchange. They’ll give a damn to the professional military, F-16 hardly fly, Soviet planes write off, there are few tanks. smile It’s not for nothing that the minister’s jacket will now carry out a reform steeper than Serdyukov’s and the Poles will rely only on Amers.
  11. 0
    3 March 2016 18: 12
    It is right. With ignoramuses easier. Career provided.
  12. +1
    3 March 2016 18: 12
    In slow down! Have you realized, or inserted a wick very strongly?
  13. +4
    3 March 2016 18: 12
    As I understand it, their minister decided to get rid of the last, miraculously surviving, competent and adequate officers. Well, the flag in the hands of the new Bur-Komarovsky!
  14. PKK
    0
    3 March 2016 18: 12
    And this is for the better, well-educated military men will leave for a civilian, and a generation of Pepsi, forfeits, different iPhones will be recruited in their place.
  15. 0
    3 March 2016 18: 14
    Soon, the pedril will begin to recruit in the army according to whom the model, well, and the flag in one place!
  16. +4
    3 March 2016 18: 15
    In addition to being experienced, well-educated specialists, they are also specialists in Russia and the Russian Army. There were.
    1. 0
      3 March 2016 19: 39
      Quote: Izotovp
      In addition to being experienced, well-educated specialists, they are also specialists in Russia and the Russian Army. There were.

      In the Soviet Army, and the Russian went far ahead. Plus, knowledge of the Russian language.
      1. 0
        3 March 2016 20: 06
        Maybe in Russian. As recently said, in our educational institutions a lot of foreign cadets study, including from NATO countries.
  17. +1
    3 March 2016 18: 17
    Why trifle: shoot right away!
  18. NUR
    +6
    3 March 2016 18: 19
    then who was born under socialism can not work as officials. By the way, this also applies to him.
  19. +6
    3 March 2016 18: 22
    Keep it up! Angry unemployed with excellent military training is exactly what is needed for the stability of the state! good
    (The military leadership of the IG from the officers of the Saddam Guard, they say ...) wink
  20. +3
    3 March 2016 18: 23
    I wonder why the training in the USSR did not suit the Poles? You might think that the Americans will teach something better than the Soviet academies. Complete absurdity. Well, however, they know better, this is their business "blockhead" fool
  21. +2
    3 March 2016 18: 25
    what a disgusting erysipelas in this pshek! And the words corresponding to erysipelas! For heaven’s sake, get rid of the professionals, who are also familiar with the tactics of the Soviet-Russian troops, in a good way psheki!
  22. +2
    3 March 2016 18: 52
    Well, then, in the wake of the trainings, officers educated in the USSR need to do something with Soviet-Russian military equipment. But suddenly the insidious Russian designers put some kind of crap into the structure and in case of conflict, an insidious mechanism will be launched. For example, self-undermining or hitting their own, target, for example, Warsaw! Technique, as you know, is also not loyal to the owner ......
  23. +1
    3 March 2016 19: 19
    Insanity grows stronger, shakes logic, mind kills.
  24. 0
    3 March 2016 19: 26
    Panic and hysteria do not give the opportunity to think adequately and make the right decisions. This state of the enemy is the key to our success.
  25. 0
    3 March 2016 19: 35
    Quote: KIBL
    Well tady in the wake of officers educated in the USSR, something will have to be done with Soviet-Russian military equipment.


    And all that they rebuilt after the war. Breaking - not building fool
  26. +4
    3 March 2016 19: 39
    The Minister of Defense of Poland Anthony Matserevich the other day announced that the highest military officials who had received military education in the Soviet Union, now can not count on a career in the Polish army.
    -----------------------------------
    Especially for people like this Anthony. The great son of Poland, Marshal Konstantin Rokossovsky remained an unsurpassed commander of World War II.
  27. +2
    3 March 2016 19: 47
    Oh well, they don’t see all the DBs, the Bulgarians generally ignored them, on the anniversary of the liberation from the Ottoman yoke, they called Erdogan.
    I spoke and I will speak, enemies are not needed with such friends
    Especially psheki.
    And the Turks would have to tilt the Bulgarian again, for prevention
    so as not to forget that they are nobody and there is no way to call them.
  28. +1
    3 March 2016 19: 59
    The head of the Polish military department said that if a Polish soldier began his career in the army before 1989, while having received his education in the USSR, then his further career advancement was closed for him, just like the service itself as part of the Polish command.

    So them! So them! Fas! Pension deprive! Where do these come from?
  29. +9
    3 March 2016 19: 59
    In general, I am surprised that such people survived in the Polish army. The Balts have long ago solved this issue in a coordinated manner, they were not even asked about it, they themselves caved in, forcing even the military attachés to shudder - the specialists "left", but with whom? Those who left "feel terribly sorry", especially the pilots - the majority officially earn more than the presidents of these countries.
  30. 0
    3 March 2016 20: 09
    The classics of Marxism taught that the army is a cast of society. Therefore, we highlight the main thing: in Polish society, a serious split. This is officially stated at the highest level.
  31. 0
    3 March 2016 20: 12
    The stupidity of the Poles has no limits. In this case, almost the entire Pshekovo generals should be dismissed. Hooray to idiots.
  32. 0
    3 March 2016 20: 21
    The Minister of Defense of Poland stated that for those trained in the military schools of the USSR Polish soldiers, further service in the Polish Armed Forces is impossible ...
    IMHO. They are already almost all retired. Well, how many years have passed since the death of the USSR ...
  33. 0
    3 March 2016 20: 23
    "... Glory in periods of rebellion and grief; vileness and shame in periods of triumph. The bravest of the brave were too often led by the vilest of the vile! And yet there have always been two Polands: one of them fought for the truth, and the other grovelled in meanness ..." ...
    W. Churchill about the Poles.

    "They will certainly begin with the fact that inside themselves, if not outright out loud, they will declare to themselves and convince themselves that they do not owe Russia the slightest gratitude, on the contrary, that they barely escaped the lust for power of Russia at the conclusion of peace by the intervention of a European concert, and if Europe had not intervened, Russia, having taken them away from the Turks, would have swallowed them immediately, "meaning the expansion of the borders and the founding of the great All-Slavic empire on the enslavement of the Slavs to the greedy, cunning and barbaric Great Russian tribe."

    For a long time, oh, for a long time they will not be able to recognize the disinterestedness of Russia and the great, holy, unheard-of in the world raising the banner of the greatest idea, of those ideas with which man lives and without which mankind, if these ideas cease to live in him, will freeze , cripples and dies in ulcers and impotence. "
    F. Dostoevsky about the Poles.
    So there is nothing unexpected in the behavior of individual representatives of this nation!
  34. 0
    3 March 2016 21: 14
    Apparently this pshek was trained in the garbage in those days when Poland was "under occupation." So where was that morally lowered, underbearded?
  35. +2
    3 March 2016 21: 36
    At the beginning of the 90s. we, too, believed that the "west" would help us ... The results of the "aid" are still being sorted out. In Ukraine, there is no end in sight to helpers. Are the Poles really counting on a different attitude? (Putin is one! Not enough for everyone!)
  36. 0
    3 March 2016 22: 08
    God forbid, if that ... but it pleases me.
  37. SAA
    +1
    3 March 2016 22: 15
    Why Ukrainians are silent, must support the idea and dismiss everyone.
  38. 0
    3 March 2016 22: 29
    I don’t even want to comment on such statements, a psychiatrist is needed here.
  39. 0
    3 March 2016 22: 38
    Do the Poles thus put a bomb under their statehood? The backbone of ISIS, as I understand it, was composed of retired Iraqi military. I doubt that in Poland the appearance of such a gang is possible, but still. What will these generals and senior officers dismissed, humiliated by democratic power, do?
  40. 0
    3 March 2016 22: 45
    Create a "fifth column". They probably also had professionals, their own colonels, the Kvachkovs. And now all they have to do is educate Sharik as a dog. We should take advantage of the situation ...
  41. 0
    3 March 2016 23: 12
    In the photo - greetings from House No. 6, no less.
  42. 0
    3 March 2016 23: 25
    Clinic. In schizoid form. When will we remember Kozma Prutkov - "Behold at the root"?
  43. 0
    4 March 2016 00: 11
    Also, there are no chances for a career continuation among the participants of the Battle of Grunwald.
  44. 0
    4 March 2016 05: 29
    in order to successfully fight, it’s not enough to know the weapons of a potential enemy, you need to know his tactics and his lifestyle and mentality in general, moral values ​​and shortcomings, but it’s not gentle for the gentry, the Yankees are now their mother, but apparently not a traveling mother
  45. VP
    0
    4 March 2016 07: 05
    Those who studied at the end of the 80s, this generation is 40-50 years old, the most experienced, "having learned the service".
  46. 0
    4 March 2016 11: 06
    Honestly, if they had just posted a photo of this "menistra" without text, I would have thought that this is another ragul in the western region writhing in a Russophobic fit. The type of this Macerevich is not Lyash, but rather Western-Khokhlyatsky. Correspondingly, the actions are similar: in spite of the efforts to break up the army. If the Poles, who imagine themselves to be the "spear point" of NATO, want to blunt this point specifically (and in every sense), then yes, of course, a good deal - you give "100% NATO personnel." Somehow they forget that so far only 2 military schools have established themselves as effective - the German Wehrmacht (which no longer exists) and the Soviet Army. The rest only in local conflicts can I call out, and iron the defenseless from the air.
  47. 0
    5 March 2016 09: 49
    Sight. What look? It’s time to get ready for the summer cottage ... and don’t delay it.
  48. 0
    5 March 2016 22: 21
    Quote: vovanpain
    God, what’s it that this little ass is stuck in the ass with? His eyes got out of their sockets.

    Judging by this physiognomy, it was definitely not studied in the USSR.

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