Turchinov, examining the Mosin rifle, said that Ukraine will develop "the latest weapons"

The secretary of the National Security and Defense Council Oleksandr Turchynov said that the National Security and Defense Council, together with the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, is preparing to begin the development of no less than the “newest weapons”. Such a statement was made by the person who gave the order to initiate a punitive operation in the Donbass in due time at the Kiev Polytechnic Institute, where a presentation of samples of small arms weapons and unmanned aerial vehicles.

Alexandra Turchinova quotes RBC-Ukraine:

We set the task to develop the latest, powerful weapons that protect the lives of our citizens. The country needs a new modern weapon that will protect Ukraine from the aggressor, stop it and, if necessary, destroy it.

Turchinov said that specialists from the Kiev Polytechnic University and UkrOboronProm will take part in the development of the “new types of weapons”.

At the presentation, Turchinov was shown a "modernized" Mosin rifle, a Gopak rifle, a target with a socket and other "novelties":

In addition, Turchinov said that Ukraine aims to carry out measures for marking the ground for demining in the Donbas, but "the militants of the DPR and the LPR do not allow such work to begin."

Turchinov:

Of course, in order for all this to happen, it is necessary to stop the constant provocations carried out by the occupation forces, Russian-terrorist groups.

Comments

[Wolka]

fresh tradition, but hard to believe ...

[SRC P-15]

At the presentation, Turchinov was shown the “upgraded” Mosin rifle, the “Hopak” rifle

And here in no way without jumps?

[Imperialkolorad]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

And here in no way without jumps?

No way - it's sacred there now.

[Inok10]

Quote: ImperialKolorad

No way - it's sacred there now.

... fact ... shout, bounce and wave the torch ...

[Tibidokh]

Quote: Inok10

shout, bounce

shout, jump and ... land with a completely different "person", "European".

[cniza]

All the same, a military hopak. Poor Mosin rifle, what they did to it.

[wasjasibirjac]

hopak - it looks like AKM, judging by the handle, only with a muffler pipe, a saiga magazine and a PC butt. An even more terrible weapon was made from a mosink in 1 photo. Remember Lavrov's words?

[Kite]

Quote: cniza

Poor Mosin rifle, what they did to it.

- for some reason, the letter G was attached to the name of the weapon!

[demchuk.ig]

Quote: Inok10

Quote: ImperialKolorad

No way - it's sacred there now.

... fact ... shout, bounce and wave the torch ...

Fecalon carriers damn it!

[Blondy]

stop the constant provocations conducted by the occupying forces

The concrete logic of the information war, based on it, the Kiev authorities will be able to declare that the Ukrainian volunteers burned the representatives of the occupying forces in the Odessa house of trade unions.

[Kent0001]

Yes, that's what they say. But Mosinka is still alive, though among Ukrainians, albeit turned. Legend.

[self-propelled]

Quote: ImperialKolorad

No way - it's sacred there now.

that's not even the point. touches the ability to pass off old (still Soviet times, despite the general and great decommunization) developments (albeit with "newfangled gadgets and gingerbreads") as regular "peremogs" of Ukrainian engineers ...

[Kent0001]

And there is nothing more to show. They have all the brains in the muscles on their legs leaked. Jump how much they recognize

[Lukich]

Quote: self-propelled

that's not even the point. touches the ability to pass off old (still Soviet times, despite the general and great decommunization) developments (albeit with "newfangled gadgets and gingerbreads") as regular "peremogs" of Ukrainian engineers ...

they know how ...

[Ze Kot]

Quote: self-propelled

touches the ability to pass off old (still Soviet times, despite the general and great decommunization) developments (albeit with "newfangled gadgets and gingerbreads") as regular "peremogs" of Ukrainian engineers ...

Well, what can they come up with? A slingshot? A rock ?

[MRomanovich]

Quote: The Cat

Well, what can they come up with? A slingshot? A rock ?

only hopak (very entertaining dance)

[dmi.pris1]

When recoiling jumps ..

Quote: SRC P-15

At the presentation, Turchinov was shown the “upgraded” Mosin rifle, the “Hopak” rifle

And here in no way without jumps?

[vell.65]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

And here in no way without jumps?

Then let him jump around the minefield, maybe he will grow wiser.

[shark]

What is it today. Either the drone scooter, the ancient karamultuk, or the socket will be screwed to the target. I decided that this was a sabotage of Svidomo, in order to disable the Russian army. (laughing) then looked at the calendar. March, 3rd. And everything fell into place. Spring exacerbation of the Lord. Be careful with Svidomo

[Corporal Valera]

Quote: shark

Either the drone scooter, the ancient karamultuk, or the socket will be screwed to the target.

Thus, Ukraine is trying to drag Russia into the arms race and undermine it economically.

[vvp2412]

Hopak is a Kalash that now cannot turn into a burst! :)

[just exp]

will develop, fact.
he will examine a wooden cudgel and be sure to come up with something.
Well, not him, so mushrooms in his head.

[Samen]

They forgot to cut a fly on a mosquito ... A fly without a rear sight is an overwhelming zrada!

[Gray brother]

-Kum, I have a gun in the barn, let's fucking around Moscow! Only I have larger caliber shells.
- Nothing, we will hammer with a sledgehammer.
(after the second blow the barn smashed)
- Wow, godmother, how banged!
- If so, consider what’s going on in Moscow now.

[marl]

Quote: just explo

will develop, fact.
he will examine a wooden cudgel and be sure to come up with something.
Well, not him, so mushrooms in his head.

Slingshot Turchinov. The drone has already been developed this morning.

[Lord of the Sith]

And today I was in the Novoazovsk area. Our blocks are removed from the roads and dig fresh trenches, I can’t say the technique, because you can’t.
Su-24R The Russian Aerospace Forces saw that this is how the border of Russia and the DNI rests against the sea, so it went parallel to the border at sea at an altitude of 500 meters, then turn back and forth, after two hours the same route again.

[aba]

two hours later the same route again.

And rightly so: you need to look after the "sick"!

[Michael67]

Svidomo nonsense. This mutant sectarian can still sing a lot. With the same success I could tell about the modernization of the toilet. Freak. bloody.

[Bronik]

carrying out activities for marking the area for demining in the Donbass

Yeah, they mark the area with artillery. 120mm shells and mines ..

[sherp2015]

Quote: Volka

fresh tradition, but hard to believe ...

Ah, then ...
They will come up with a hahlyachy "Karamultuk" with CNC and a digital camera working on farting gas ...

[vodolaz]

I read here about this hopak: there is manual reloading !!! That is, I imagine it this way: the shooter, most often right-handed, shoots, removes his hand from the trigger, jerks the shutter, and this extended movement is obtained, makes the next shot. Well and so 29 more times. I still do not understand what for they made a rifle store for 30 rounds? When I served, the people shortened the broken plastic stores, it turned out compact and cartridges for 15-17. Well, the height of the bipod is generally a masterpiece. Well not higher? Immediately half a meter))))

[Your friend]

Quote: vodolaz

I read here about this hopak: there is manual reloading !!! That is, I imagine it this way: the shooter, most often right-handed, shoots, removes his hand from the trigger, jerks the shutter, and this extended movement is obtained, makes the next shot. Well and so 29 more times. I still do not understand what for they made a rifle store for 30 rounds? When I served, the people shortened the broken plastic stores, it turned out compact and cartridges for 15-17. Well, the height of the bipod is generally a masterpiece. Well not higher? Immediately half a meter))))

Here is the difference between cotton and thinking European-Ukrainian. He would like to denounce all your quilted jackets, he asks some questions, but you have to believe - to believe that Hopak is a high-tech nanoweapon, which is a thousand years ahead of time, breaking through Armata and, in addition to that, through the Buryat GRU division.

[Djozz]

"removes his hand from the trigger, twitches the bolt", you can in more detail, how he removes his hand from the SMOOK !!!

[PSih2097]

Quote: vodolaz

I read here about this hopak: there is manual reloading !!! That is, I imagine it this way: the shooter, most often right-handed, shoots, removes his hand from the trigger, jerks the shutter, and this extended movement is obtained, makes the next shot.

airsoft players accustomed to spring snipers will fight with them ...
where so ...

[sgazeev]

Quote: Volka

fresh tradition, but hard to believe ...

Rump-squealed with a squeak

[SveTok]

A chopper with a motor would be better thought of a seed crop on the nose, otherwise the famine.

[PKK]

The mosquito of 1895-2016 reached its perfection in the hands of dill. I’m sure Mosin not only turned over in the house, but also sobbed.
"Hopak" is an AK in which the barrel is hidden in a two-inch pipe. The guys are thinking.

[engineer74]

Gloomy Prancing Ukrainian genius - senseless and merciless! (they barely broke through from their "drone", but here is an appendage!)
And this madhouse was the heart of the military-industrial complex of the Union, some 30 years ago ...

[tth]

The next upgrade will probably affect the shutter mechanism, in order to reduce the number of parts and increase reliability, the shutter will be brewed. It is planned to charge through the barrel, flint fuse or through the wick. The front sight will be cut in case of capture.

[Tor5]

What a stupid and bad person he is (after the comments of the admin I am afraid to write harder!).

[just exp]

Is it a man?

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

half jopi with ears. So you can write like that. Untranslatable game of letters.

[Drmadfisher]

you can write - zhory - everyone will understand

[just exp]

maybe he’s just from reptiles .....

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Yes, I even guess from what specific place of reptiles he left.

[x587x]

In vocational schools in practice they upgrade or what?

[bionik]

Quote: x587x

In vocational schools in practice they upgrade or what?

It’s also true with a file.

[Vik66]

Yeah, add a AK store and an OD / AV fire translator to the musket - these are the latest weapons

[Lanista]

I imagined this creation. Yes, Ukrainians can.
Instead of a gas outlet tube and rod, a gas ram.
Automation is based on a pedal drive.
The design provides for only one spring, and that arrow on the berets - so that it jumps better.

[Seal]

Instead of a gas outlet tube and rod, a gas ram.

When a representative of a Ukrainian development plant told the exhibition that the weapons developed by his plant had a gas pipe, a representative of the SBU immediately appeared at his booth, who unobtrusively but persistently became interested in exactly where the gas was taken.
The developer foolishly stated that after the completion of the shutter cycle, the gas goes into the air. For a long time, the stand of this plant was empty

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Ukrainians are smart. They will stick a drum to the musket, like a revolver and a Chinese lighter.

[olegkrava]

I already pinned their development. https://youtu.be/m0RGwrd2oVM

[triglav]

Clown. The latest types of brooms with collimators will be developed.

[jovanni]

Why Mosin then upgrade ?! Already a berdanka would be taken for bells and whistles ...

[Igor39]

Yes, it’s not relevant to talk about them already, I recently read Chubais with RUSNANO asking for 90 billion, at 2%, I didn’t want to take it at Sber at 22,5, and they will give it to him .// lenta.ru/news/2016/ 03/02 / rosnano /

[Karayakupovo]

It remains for them, after such zeal to create "new and breakthrough" weapons systems, to create a ballistic missile and call it "Salo-1"

[lukke]

Turchinov, they killed a fly on a mosquito!

[with]

Svidomye already working in this direction ...

[Don Cesar]

again "the man-vagina is broadcasting."
slam the ass Americanos lackey!

[mag nit]

The newest dry closet for ukrovoinov - "Sharovary". There are no analogues in the world.

[tth]

Cosmonauts have analogues, but they lose a lot because of the high cost.

[Mama_Cholli]

"Turchynov, having examined the Mosin rifle, said that Ukraine will develop" the latest types of weapons "

D.u.r.a.ch.o.k. you are Turchinov. Mosins anywhere are not born ...

[Comrade Bender]

About Trupchinov:

[aba]

Yes, wherever you stick, so a state secret!

[dchegrinec]

Enlightenment descended upon a fascist descendant! It would be better if he began to respect his people than to think about rifles.

[LEVIAFAN]

Quote: Vik66

Yeah, add a AK store and an OD / AV fire translator to the musket - these are the latest weapons

and to the target an outlet, that’s nanotechnology.

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: LEVIAFAN

Quote: Vik66

Yeah, add a AK store and an OD / AV fire translator to the musket - these are the latest weapons

and to the target an outlet, that’s nanotechnology.

Who is it ready? Anyway, someday they themselves will go to the South-East with targets without sockets.

[AdekvatNICK]

Ukraine: we will develop .... we will build .... we will sign ...... we will implement ...... we will block .....


and so they have been promising for 2 years but nothing is happening. And the people are waving and jumping.

[Hooks]

Damn they do not understand tuning! Here, and without any polytechnics and ukurpromov:

[Sally]

And how to strike with a bayonet?

[Res_Ullus]

How how??? Swipe

[your1970]

the sight is far from the eye, and so nothing modestly, but with taste, will not break through a tank a bullet, a fly will be burned, it will not be burned, so they chop it up with a katana ....

[Alexey RA]

We set the task to develop the latest, powerful weapons that protect the lives of our citizens. The country needs a new modern weapon that will protect Ukraine from the aggressor, stop it and, if necessary, destroy it.

Бггг ... just yesterday, EMNIP, Mokrushin had a video and an article on testing the next "Ukrainian" machine gun (in fact - another rework of the "Kalash"). First comes the accolades, significantly outperforms analogs, all that ... and then a short list of flaws.
And in it the first point - there is no mass production of rifle barrels in Ukraine, so difficulties with a large series can arise.

[rf xnumx]

Turchinov, examining the Mosin rifle, said that Ukraine will develop "the latest weapons"

[sl22277]

Heroically they planted an aluminum bed on a sniper rifle under the caliber of 7,62, which looks, let's say, funny. Snipers - people are reserved and with a peculiar psyche - use other expressions: a sniper rifle under an old Soviet-standard assault rifle cartridge, presented as the “latest development”, is not even nonsense, but something on the verge of black humor.

[carbine]

Turchinov, examining the Mosin rifle, said that Ukraine will develop "the latest weapons"

I do not know. Strelkovka is a very difficult business. You must have a "school". And where is she from in Ukraine? And to create, so the USSR only in the 70s first conscious actions in this area began to demonstrate. How much time has passed since 1918? Therefore, nothing can be ruled out. But even if so, then very soon.
Most likely it will end with a regular license. Or purchases abroad. Or the production of ersatz.

[Lopatov]

They already have a license. On the production of the Israeli rifle. The whole line.

Simple
A. There is no money.
B. You can’t sell abroad.

Therefore, they dance with tambourines around "their own developments"

[carbine]

Quote: Spade

They already have a license. On the production of the Israeli rifle. The whole line.

Well, let’s say, I wouldn’t produce an Israeli rifle either. And I would not buy a license.
And about "our own developments" (at least from the area of ​​the shooters), so "broadcast" is not to carry bags.

[Romanenko]

Three-line .... Probably today this topic has exhausted itself in all forms, except perhaps hunting weapons. Judging by the fact that in the photograph, this is the Mosin rifle of the 1891/30 model, that is, its latest pre-war version. Imperial went without namušnikov. The 30-year-old rifle does not shine at all with enhanced barrel quality, often there is an internal oval and other defects, the few sniper barrels that our famous shooters fired from were made far from standard rifles. Unfortunately, the trilinear is no longer able to become a worthy donor for the modern sniper. It would be better to experiment with the trunks of dragoons, they are better, although here the same trouble is - the cartridge 7,62x53 with a flange sleeve. In a word, Turchinov didn’t show anything interesting and actually didn’t see it himself, so, some show off ....

[Lanista]

Quote: Romanenko

It would be better to experiment with trunks of dragoons

They cannot, this is contrary to the law of decommunization.
All that remains for them is Mauser 98K.

[carbine]

Quote: Romanenko

It would be better to experiment with the trunks of dragoons, they are better

Yes, what are you. The technical resource of the SVD barrel is only 6000 shots. In general, in the USSR they could not master the production of army self-charges in this way (it is interesting that SCS assault self-charges also). The first, quite naturally, was immediately written off from the infantry (SVT, appointed as the weapon of the marines, who fought periodically). The second (SVD) was appointed sniper. Logically, snipers, like marines, rarely shoot.
Now imagine the "technical resource" of the Ukrainian army rifle. Have you presented? Here I am about the same. Most likely it will be very far from the level of the USSR.

[gross kaput]

Quote: Romanenko

those few sniper barrels from which our famous shooters fired were made far from serial rifles.

Note for "experts" of domestic sniper rifles, sniper versions of rifles arr. 91/30 and SVT were selected at the factory from the gross output after checking the battle for accuracy, after which the selected rifles were modified for sniper requirements, the mosinka received a bolt with a curved handle and a Kochetov bracket for attaching optics, grooves were cut on the SVT for installing the PU bracket, on average out of 100 gross rifles, 5 pieces met the requirements for accuracy for sniper rifles. By the way, Dragunov himself said that the most difficult thing in the design of the SVD was to ensure that all 100% of the rifles met the accuracy requirements, because this is no longer a mosink and not an SVT where rifles that have not passed just go to the troops as ordinary ones.

[stars China]

Turchinov in a popen socket insert with a plug !!!!

[KB-2]

Why is there a socket on the target?

[vitaliy.rnd]

She must have been bouncing too. From Hopak it’s not possible to get into it in any other way.

[demand1]

Opa fish-eye is also talking! I thought he was only farting from his mouth!

[vitaliy.rnd]

Hopak? And how to get into it from the target?

[Lanista]

Intensively jumping.

[Riv]

In vain they attached flies to these rifles. Oh in vain ... Let them urgently cut down.

[K-50]

Urkaina will shy a little longer and will soon be batons and spears upgrade

[bad]

Turchinov, examining the Mosin rifle, said that Ukraine will develop "the latest weapons"

... chtoli slingshot? ..

[dvg1959]

First "Mosin" and then probably what realties are the best sniper rifles. Let's see if Ukraine has enough money for such a weapon.

[VNP1958PVN]

Ukraine will never give birth to Mosinyh-du.ra.chok !!

[GEV67]

The use of this barrel is only possible when in a dance of hopak.

[Stinger]

As I understand it, instead of the three-ruler of 1891/30, they will make the 2016 small town with a dill type shutter.

[russmensch]

target with socket and other "news"

This is right ... Give each kaklu a target with a socket ... Wear it for everyone without taking off constantly, live in the ghetto

[ALEA IACTA EST]

Soon they will remember about berdanks!

[Former battalion commander]

And why are they publishing the statements of all kinds of bloody freaks? Who knows where this clown says! Instead of deciding on the DESTRUCTION of such obvious enemies, their emissions will also be replicated ... I do not understand this ...

[chelovektapok]

Mosin ingeniously invented a knot - a pair of "comb, stem with handle and bolt". Tricky thing. I wonder if the bloody pastor thinks about how to disassemble and reassemble it? Until the 80s of the 20th century, the Chinese considered the Mosinsky 7,62 the best weapon. The very fact of turning to rarities confirms the degradation of the ukrosvinyarnik over the past 24 years. American and German weapons cannot be given to them. They will ruin at once. Seasonings require precise handling and cleanliness in the service staff, which never happened to pigs.

[Ros 56]

Turchinov, examining the Mosin rifle, sighed sadly and said we could not do this for another hundred years.

[Belarus]

It’s not even surprising and once again confirms such a statement by the Pastor that the current Ukrainian authorities are aimed only at destroying and destroying the country so far. Otherwise, one can be proud that weapons are created and the economy is not growing.

[kill the fascist]

catapult maydannaya?

[AlexSam]

gentlemen, who has the opportunity to give horses the idea to modernize Maxim's machine gun? that's where the field is not plowed! there is room for the tuners to turn around: cut off three cartridges, put optics, low-profile rubber, besides, it has liquid cooling of the shaft, which makes it possible to heat a machine-gun point during the battle, connecting it to the heating battery and thereby exclude whole battalions from going to the commandant’s commandant’s demand to bring firewood ...

[drags33]

Isn't it this kind of "latest" weapons?

[MRomanovich]

Turchinova nay..li. The first photo shows the "modernized" Mosin rifle of the American company "Center Balanced Rifle Platform Systems", which is engaged in bucking old barrels, mainly ours. This is the genius of Ukrainian design thought - to take someone else's work and call it a "modernized gvintivka".

[mr.grin19z]

all they can modernize now is a karamultuk

[MRomanovich]

Quote: mr.grin19z

all they can modernize now is a karamultuk

and why not, they can do it. I won’t be surprised if the ultraprecise, muzzle-loading Gopak-2 soon appears.

[Your friend]

Quote: MRomanovich

Quote: mr.grin19z

all they can modernize now is a karamultuk

and why not, they can do it. I won’t be surprised if the ultraprecise, muzzle-loading Gopak-2 soon appears.

Muzzle-loading? Mmmm ... and what, very different. Not a single army in the world will have progressive, state-of-the-art muzzle-loading screwdrivers, but the Ukrainian army will have !!!

[Energy]

The fleet and air defense have already been modernized, it’s the turn for rifles ....

[magician]

and how does the Mosin rifle fit into their anti-Russian policy? then Mauser 98 would be better modernized, and even better blinded by an arsonist with optics or some sort of squeak from the museum!

[Mastercorwin]

We looked with the guys from our unit. Our sniper, for nothing that calm guys do not hang out on the Internet, knowing full well about the innumerable amount of all sorts of nonsense in it, the other day they also saw this "creation" of Ukrainian "spitsialists" in the news. They asked me to look. Found. Both (not counting me and five other guys, plus Lieutenant Colonel K-vtsev, our ----- -----), neighing so much that one already complained: they say, his breath even caught from laughter.
Seriously. Yes, actually, we all neigh together. At the first glance at a photograph of this so-called sniper rifle.
We started laughing as soon as we recognized the Mosin rifle modernized according to the bullpup scheme in this "newest model". This upgrade was carried out by the CBRPS arms company. Therefore, at first we laughed to our heart's content at Musya Turchinov and how his own Ukrainian "Spitsialists" conducted it. It is necessary to try - to communicate (and even clumsily, as if from memory they later made at home) the scheme of the modernized version of the American company, remove the standard bipod, weld instead of them for an incomprehensible purpose a monopod, which also has an idiotic biped underneath, clumsy and useless. At the same time, completely forget that the experts from CBRPS, LLC actually replaced the native barrel, since among them there are no fools who, when upgrading, can leave it together with, in technical terms, a "ring-type sighting device with a closed structure", that is, a front sight and with all its performance characteristics, outdated and completely unsuitable for modernization.

In the pictures - different options, there is a sawn fly, there is a muzzle gadget ...

Seeing the target with a socket and cable, we all ridden with laughter.

I can’t understand: are they serious?