How to protect Damansky

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How to protect Damansky


2 March 1969, the battle began for a small island on the Ussuri River, which became a symbol of the great courage of Russian border guards
In the postwar stories Russia was the only time when its soldiers had to repel an attack by regular enemy troops on their land. From that battle, the Soviet soldiers came out victorious. Although they got this victory at a high price: March 2 1969, three dozen Russian border guards were killed, reflecting the perfidious attack of Chinese troops on Damansky Island. But 12 days later, everything happened again, and as a result, the total number of Soviet casualties reached 58 people. True, China paid much more for its provocation: according to unofficial data, but official Chinese are carefully hiding to this day! - PLA soldiers and officers were killed from 300 to 1000.

The history of China’s attempts to hurt Russia, taking away its barren island flooded in the middle of the Ussuri River begins with a three-century demarcation of the Russian-Chinese border in the area. Under the terms of the 1911 Treaty of the Year, the border between the two countries passed along the Chinese bank of the Ussuri. But adopted eight years later as a worldwide principle of the “border river”, according to which the border is drawn in the middle of the main fairway or simply in the middle of the river, if it is not navigable, in one fell swoop turned the Ussuri border into a controversial one. In any case, from the point of view of China, which, after long years of weakening of the central government and a prolonged civil war, has again begun to claim the role of a world power.

The role of the catastrophic development of events around Damansky Island, named so in 1888 in honor of Stanislav Damansky, a railway engineer from the Russian expedition who died off the island coast, also played political contradictions between Moscow and Beijing, aggravated after the death of Joseph Stalin. The PRC, which was experiencing the Great Cultural Revolution with a tremendous increase in national and political hysteria, then quickly found the main culprit of its internal problems, accusing the Soviet Union of betraying the ideals of communism and forcing the population to hate Russia more than its own politicians. And at that moment they were rushing back and forth between the two main opponents of the Cold War — the USSR and the USA — in search of a new ally and sponsor. These throwings, according to many historians, became the true cause of the conflict on the Damansky. Say, Beijing has found the most radical way of demonstrating to Washington its hopelessly deteriorated relations with Moscow. And choosing Damansky Chinese leadership made purely strategic considerations: the island is located at a significant distance from the military centers of Primorye, at the junction of the two outposts, poorly accessible to heavy equipment and located much closer to the Chinese coast, which made it easier for Chinese troops to access.

In 1964, Soviet diplomats, realizing how dangerous the situation with the uncertainty of the state border on the Ussuri, offered China to transfer the disputed island to his disposal. However, Beijing simply did not respond to this proposal, hoping to use the Damansky as a trump card in a political game - and immediately began to play it. Over the next few years, the number of provocations on this section of the border increased from a hundred to several thousand per year. At first, Chinese peasants simply began to land on the island (as Chinese politicians later admitted in their memoirs, with full approval from the capital), who mowed hay and grazed cattle, declaring to the Soviet border guards that were expelled, they were on Chinese territory. Then they were replaced by the Red Guilds - youth activists of the Cultural Revolution, ideologically mortified so much that they ceased to adhere to generally accepted human morality. These "red guards" began to openly attack border patrols, hiding at the first danger. However, the Russian frontier guards kept an amazing endurance: until the fateful night on 2 March 1969, they never - we emphasize, not once! - did not apply weapon. Later, the Chinese themselves admitted that they very much hoped for the first shots, but for some reason the Russians preferred fist fights. From which, as provocateurs ascertained with bitterness, our frontier guards invariably emerged victorious due to their superiority in growth and, most importantly, in muscle mass: at that time in China, it was very bad with nutrition ...

Desperate to provoke the Soviet side to the first shots, Beijing decided to spit on political propriety and gave the command to launch Operation Retribution, which was appointed to head the deputy commander of the Shenyang military district Xiao Quanfu. As part of this purely military plan, on the night of 2 in March 1969, around 300, soldiers of the National Liberation Army of China under cover of darkness crossed the ice to Damansky Island and organized several ambushes. The goal was simple: wait for the appearance of border patrols, show them the military presence of China on the island, force the personnel of the nearest Nizhne-Mikhaylovka frontier post, as usual, to go to Damansky, and then destroy them with dense machine-gun fire, supported from the Chinese coast by machine guns and artillery .

The first stage of the conflict, admittedly, proceeded in full accordance with the Chinese plans. On 10: 30 in the morning, a technical observation post noticed that armed people began to cross the island from the Chinese coast. In 10: 40, as follows from the investigation documents, two groups of Chinese - from 30 and 18 people - reached the island, and immediately after that the outpost was raised into a gun. The frontier guards acted the same way as thousands of times before: without removing the automat standing on the guard from the shoulders, they went to meet the Chinese in order to literally shove them off the island, since they could not count on persuasion. But this time everything went differently: when the head of the outpost, Senior Lieutenant Ivan Sinelnikov, accompanied by other commanders and soldiers, approached the violators and began to explain to them why they should leave the island (presumably, he pronounced the text literally by heart without thinking about it) , the first row of Chinese suddenly parted, and the second opened fire literally at close range. Almost at the same time, the reserve group of the outpost, which was on the flank of the intruders, got into another ambush. As a result, no more than half of the soldiers and officers of Nizhne-Mikhaylovka survived from 32, and even those were forced to lie down under heavy enemy fire.


Head of the 1 frontier post Bubenin Vitaly Dmitrievich. Photo: damanski-1969.ru

Only two hours later, when the few Nizhne-Mikhaylovka fighters came to the aid of the few who remained in the ranks, the maneuverable groups from the Kulebyakiny Sopki outpost under the command of its chief lieutenant Vitaly Bubenin, the future creator of the Alpha group of the KGB of the USSR, the Chinese began to retreat. After they left the island, they began to search and collect the bodies of the fallen border guards in Damanskoye. Their appearance horrified even the well-worn officers and doctors: Chinese soldiers did not take prisoners, finishing off wounded shots at point-blank range and mocking the dead, disfiguring and shredding their bodies with bayonets. In the same terrible state, the body of the only captured Nizhne-Mikhaylovka border guard — the corporal Pavel Akulov — was returned home after a month and a half ...

In total, 31 was killed by a Soviet border guard that day in the battle for Damansky Island, and 14 were injured. And after 12 days, in the 14 and 15 battles of March, 27 soldiers and officers were killed, and 80 was injured. Finally leaving the island, which attacked the 24 Infantry Regiment of the PLA numbering 5 thousands of people, the Chinese were only convinced by the shells of the secret weapon of the time - the MLRS Grad - and the decisive counterattack of the Soviet motorized infantry and border guards that followed. Following the events in Damansky, many of their participants were awarded high awards - and many, alas, posthumously. Five people became Heroes of the Soviet Union: the commander of the 57 frontier detachment, Colonel Democrat Leonov, the head of the Nizhne-Mikhaylovka outpost, senior lieutenant Ivan Strelnikov, senior sergeant Vladimir Orekhov (all three are posthumous), and also senior lieutenant Vitaly Bubenin and junior sergeant Yuriy Baban . In addition, 148 was also awarded to soldiers and officers of the Soviet army and border troops during their lifetime and posthumously. Three - the Order of Lenin, 10 - the Order of the Battle Red Banner, 31 - the Order of the Red Star, 10 - the Order of Glory of the III degree, 63 - the Medal of Courage medal, 31 - the Medal of Military Merit.

By the end of the year, minor clashes in Damansky and around it happened more than once, but the matter did not reach open clashes. 11 September 1969, Moscow and Beijing have agreed to leave the troops in their former positions, and the island became completely deserted. In fact, this meant that the Soviet Union refused to retain this piece of land, which was richly drenched in the blood of Soviet soldiers. In 1991, this decision was legitimized, and the island completely came under the jurisdiction of China. But the loss of Damansky does not mean that his defenders are forgotten - the Russian soldiers, who in an unequal fight won an unconditional victory over their opponent many times over.
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  1. +28
    5 March 2016 07: 04
    Article +, but a little bit stupidly describes how specifically defended Damansky, forces and means of the parties, chronology, etc. request
    1. +4
      5 March 2016 07: 50
      But there was already a detailed article at VO, but finding it is very difficult.
      1. +3
        5 March 2016 18: 22
        Quote: cth; fyn
        But there was already a detailed article at VO, but finding it is very difficult.


        Link: topwar.ru/24111-oruzheynye-debyuty-damanskogo.html
        1. 0
          5 March 2016 22: 12
          How so? Was there a bookmark or search fixed?
          1. +1
            6 March 2016 07: 42
            Quote: cth; fyn
            How so? Was there a bookmark or search fixed?

            I hammered the site "Damansky" into the search engine, immediately gave the truth through Yandex.
            1. +1
              6 March 2016 09: 04
              Earlier, a search on the site gave out all the garbage, apparently it hasn’t been used for a long time, the site is growing, you look and optimize for android, otherwise you’re sitting on the phone and it’s just a lot of functionality that doesn’t work.
    2. +14
      5 March 2016 08: 00
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Article +, but a little bit stupidly describes how specifically defended Damansky, forces and means of the parties, chronology, etc.

      So this is not a full-fledged historical study, but only a small article dedicated to the anniversary of the events in Damansky. Who cares, always, in the same network, will find a lot of materials on those events. And this material makes us recall that old conflict and admire the courage of our border guards.
      I was surprised to learn that among the servicemen who were awarded government awards, there were 10 people who were awarded the Order of Glory, 3rd degree. He believed that after the Second World War the "soldier's order" was not awarded.
      1. -15
        5 March 2016 12: 07
        So this is not a full-fledged historical study, but only a small article dedicated to the anniversary of the events in Damansky.


        And also once again to kick the Chinese. Nothing was said about the fighting, but they did not forget to say about the mockery of the dead.
        In general, the situation simply showed Khrushchev's stupidity and cowardice. He himself criticized Stalin for the order "not to succumb to provocations" and he himself repeated such an order. Only at the IVS the enemy was the whole of Europe, lying under the fascists, and at Khrushch's - China, which in history was not beaten only by the lazy and which could not equal the USSR in military strength even close.
        1. +15
          5 March 2016 13: 07
          Quote: alicante11
          In general, the situation simply showed the stupidity and cowardice of Khrushchev.

          And here Khrushchev. The general secretary was Brezhnev. Tsar Nikitka had already been kicked out. Tension was all along the Soviet-Chinese border. China wanted to provoke the USSR to a full-fledged war at all costs. It was simply not allowed to carry it out, as the PRC then provoked the 1st Socialist War in January 1979, and only the concentration of Soviet troops on the borders of the PRC, ended this war.
          http://warfiles.ru/show-110747-krupneyshego-predatelya-v-russkoy-istorii-opravda
          li-v-institute-istorii-ran.html
          1. +8
            5 March 2016 13: 38
            And here Khrushchev. The General Secretary was Brezhnev. Tsar Nikita was already kicked out


            Thank you, it’s a shame to shit like that. For some reason, it was imprinted that the situation was under Khrushchev. Boom to learn materiel.
            1. +3
              5 March 2016 16: 22
              Read more books!
              1. +1
                6 March 2016 10: 35
                Well, of course, I’m far from your readiness, so I won’t try.
            2. +2
              5 March 2016 17: 26
              Textbooks are only honest, please choose.
            3. 0
              7 January 2017 16: 37
              Quote: alicante11
              Thank you, it’s a shame to shit like that. For some reason, it was imprinted that the situation was under Khrushchev. Boom to learn materiel.

              Maybe because it was Khrushchev who was angry with all the communist parties in the world, which led to an aggravation of relations with China that spilled over into Damansk ...
        2. +4
          5 March 2016 13: 14
          Quote: alicante11
          and Khrushchev has China, which in history has not been beaten only by the lazy and who could not even be compared with the USSR in military force.

          And he lost. True, he gave a piece of his native land to "dear Leonid Ilyich". In general, it's amazing how myths breed. I talked with not a small number of educated people. Sometimes I asked what they think about Damansky. Do not believe it, almost everyone is sure that "we defended him ! ". When you explain to them that the military political leadership handed him over to the Chinese, then people do not believe, they are amazed. If you call a spade a spade, the Chinese simply took it away from us. That's all.
          1. +3
            5 March 2016 13: 44
            People remember how the military clash ended.
            But in general, of course, no matter how unpleasant, but sometimes it is necessary to restore historical justice. Under the tsar, the Chinese bent on delimiting, in our time we have to pay. That is why one always has to act with honor, Danila Bogrov was right.
        3. +3
          6 March 2016 02: 12
          Our, and probably your grandfathers are not with any "fascists"fought, but with a brutal, merciless and implacable enemy. Be more attentive in your messages, please, comrade."marshal".
    3. +7
      5 March 2016 10: 12
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Article +, but a little bit stupidly describes how specifically defended Damansky, forces and means of the parties, chronology, etc. request

      No problem, look at health.
  2. +25
    5 March 2016 07: 06
    ... on the night of March 2, 1969 ...
    He was still a kid. But the funeral that was in the city, where I lived, on my street I remembered for a lifetime. Love the homeland, but it must be protected. And HE proved it. Memory for life. And in many cases this faith helped me.
    1. +6
      5 March 2016 17: 04
      One of the deceased border guards was also buried in our Stakhanov. probably behind the coffin from half the city. If not more.
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  3. PKK
    +13
    5 March 2016 07: 17
    Politics and diplomacy then cost the lives of the best guys in the country. And experience said that you can’t trust anyone, you need to be prepared for any provocation. But you didn’t expect such insidiousness. The article reminded of the man-made pravoseki from dill.
    1. +16
      5 March 2016 07: 30
      Quote: PKK
      ,need to be prepared for any provocationBut they didn’t expect such insidiousness. The article reminded about the man-made pravoseki from dill. Here is who replaced the hunweibins.

      It also reminded me of Turkey, more recently, almost shouted, Russian and Turk, brothers forever.
      But as always, the business and nothing personal is at the head, and the personal interests of the aggressor country.
      It's time to stop looking for friends, we will not be happy if we in our country are not friendly with each other.
      And friends to us are our Armed Forces.
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  4. +27
    5 March 2016 07: 21
    China of Russia was not and will not be friend and partner, now we are united by one problem, and no more. China has eased territorial claims against Russia, for the time being, in the hope of Russia's weakness in the future. And he moved to a different plane with us, this is the assimilation that the Chinese authorities are encouraging. And the seizure of territory in the republics of Central Asia, (Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan).
    Since the collapse of the Union, China has taken over almost the entire former Soviet Central Asia, although China does not need land now, it is primarily concerned with minerals and the creditor occupation of these republics.
    For example, China has long been the main creditor of Tajikistan: Tajiks made 40% of loans from the Chinese. China is financing the construction of roads and power plants, for which 100 Chinese workers have already entered the country (the population of Tajikistan is about 8 million people). Since 2009, China has invested a huge amount of money in Kazakhstan (bypassing both Russia and Germany), 30% of Kazakh oil belongs to Chinese corporations, and thousands of farmers from China received plots of land "for agricultural activities." In Kyrgyzstan, neighbors from the East rented for 50 years (!) The largest iron ore deposit Zhetim-Too. Chinese restaurants grow like mushrooms in Bishkek, and the yuan in exchange offices is as readily taken as the dollar and ruble. A similar pattern of work of the Chinese I observed in Africa. A poor country is seduced by loans, business from Beijing takes profitable contracts, politicians are tied up with bribes. Then the republic is bombarded with consumer junk and cheaply pumped out resources.

    Nothing from today reminds me where I saw it, and more recently.
    1. +12
      5 March 2016 07: 32
      The crimes of politicians cannot be hidden by the courage of the Soviet border guards, I consider the leader of the CPSU after the death of IVStalin to be the main culprit of this incident, my crazy decisions with a personality cult and departure from social construction, worsening relations with the PRC before the fighting. Now the PRC is not a friend and not an enemy but life on its mind taught.
      1. +10
        5 March 2016 07: 49
        Quote: apro
        leadership of the CPSU after the death of IVStalin with its crazy decisions

        This has become a national tradition in our country, we rush from one extreme to the other, (recently discussed by the USSR gr. Khrushchev and Gorbachev, as an example) with a desire to please a neighbor, we can say our wife, we would like our neighbor to smile at us, only our neighbor and his wife has, and puts a paw on our yard.
        It's time to stop looking at a glass in which half of the water is poured, we now look like this, the glass is half empty, and we need to look like this, it is half full, as well as with European civilization, everyone is trying to become part of the EU,
        But we must look so that the EU would strive to become part of Russia. (Although they do not need us with their values, and with a dowry)
        Given what is happening in the EU, the wait is not long, the indigenous inhabitants of Europe will rush to other countries, from their tolerance, and multiculturalism.
        We don’t need to join someone, at least to the East, even to the West.
        We are a self-sufficient and great country with which everyone reckons, yes, yes, reckons.
        Here they are and let us adjoin.
        1. +3
          5 March 2016 08: 10
          Vladimir, what did you write? How to understand the above? The IVS Stalin USSR did not build a socialist system for beautiful eyes and a desire for someone to like it, but as an urgent need to build a bright socialist future for everyone who is ready to follow this path and, most importantly, as a tool to counteract the arrogant Saxons, and the rotation of the Khrushchev is not clear where and why this system was put under attack both from the outside and from the inside to the delight of our enemies.
          1. +1
            5 March 2016 08: 49
            I highlighted this quote here, what happened, I do not understand.
            .Now China is not a friend and not an enemy, but it taught life to itself.
            Yeah, that's what carelessness leads to, or rather family distracted. I apologize to you.
    2. +5
      5 March 2016 11: 48
      Quote: Sirocco
      Nothing from today reminds me where I saw it, and more recently.

      Volodya! While the Russian Federation has nuclear weapons, the PRC needs it as a SHIELD from the northern direction from the US strike on China and it is convenient to hide its mobile missile launchers near the borders of Russia. But your fear that China will seize our territories by assimilation is quite possible. I’m not tired of repeating. The Chinese actively support joint families between Russians and Chinese. Especially those where the man is the head. And yet! What do you write about the resources of Central Asia, this also applies to our Far East. From the desire of our government, everywhere loans and investments, we can lose everything. We are already howling in Kolyma from Chinese investments in a number of antimony deposits. They are invested in mineral deposits, and then they act as owners. Nominally, the owners of the companies are Russian or international joint-stock companies, but in fact they own On the Asian commodity exchanges, the Chinese also feel that they want them to set prices. In fact, most of the mining projects in the Far East are financed by the Chinese.
    3. +2
      5 March 2016 14: 29
      Quote: Sirocco
      Since the collapse of the Union, China has taken over almost the entire former Soviet Central Asia, although China does not need land now, it is primarily concerned with minerals

      well, in general, nothing new, Hitler also considered the new territories as raw materials appendages of the Reich, and a special heavy-load railway was designed to export resources to the Reich
      From September 1939, and especially with the outbreak of the war against the USSR in 1941, an acute shortage of vehicles was outlined for the implementation of the plans for Living Space in the East (German: Lebensraum im Osten). Hitler considered sea and river vessels not good enough transport, especially for the transport of bulk cargo. Rail again becomes a priority
      Breitspurbahn (German broad-gauge railway) - a project of a railway network with an ultra-wide gauge (3000 mm), prepared on the personal order of Adolf Hitler.
      1. +1
        6 March 2016 15: 38
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Sirocco
        Since the collapse of the Union, China has taken over almost the entire former Soviet Central Asia, although China does not need land now, it is primarily concerned with minerals

        well, in general, nothing new, Hitler also considered the new territories as raw materials appendages of the Reich, and a special heavy-load railway was designed to export resources to the Reich
        From September 1939, and especially with the outbreak of the war against the USSR in 1941, an acute shortage of vehicles was outlined for the implementation of the plans for Living Space in the East (German: Lebensraum im Osten). Hitler considered sea and river vessels not good enough transport, especially for the transport of bulk cargo. Rail again becomes a priority
        Breitspurbahn (German broad-gauge railway) - a project of a railway network with an ultra-wide gauge (3000 mm), prepared on the personal order of Adolf Hitler.
        By the end of the year, minor clashes in Damansky and around it happened more than once, but the matter did not reach open clashes. 11 September 1969, Moscow and Beijing have agreed to leave the troops in their former positions, and the island became completely deserted. In fact, this meant that the Soviet Union refused to retain this piece of land, which was richly drenched in the blood of Soviet soldiers. In 1991, this decision was legitimized, and the island completely came under the jurisdiction of China. But the loss of Damansky does not mean that his defenders are forgotten - the Russian soldiers, who in an unequal fight won an unconditional victory over their opponent many times over.
        Thanks with parting to the shit ... To the tagged and drunk foreman ... personal for that! NON-BAD AND CANNOT BE GIVEN! GIVING for what, for centuries, our great-grandfathers grandfathers and fathers poured blood ????
  5. +3
    5 March 2016 07: 36
    Not only in Damansky .. We then lived in Almaty, left ... the grandmother was very afraid of war .. Eternal memory and glory to the guys ..
    1. +6
      5 March 2016 09: 58
      Quote: parusnik
      Not only in Damansky .. We then lived in Almaty, left ... the grandmother was very afraid of war .. Eternal memory and glory to the guys ..

      Can you imagine how we lived and we live now? From my house to the right bank of the Amur River, where HEY-HE is located in China only about a kilometer. Here and imagine how we lived in those years. And they took us into the army in May 1969. and our parents sent us to the army as if to war. And then the events of August 13, 1969, on Lake Zhalanashkol also did not add optimism.
  6. +3
    5 March 2016 07: 36
    It’s a pity the guys died for no reason, Father Damansky still moved to China
    1. +5
      5 March 2016 13: 26
      Quote: cth; fyn
      It’s a pity the guys died for no reason, Father Damansky still moved to China

      The guys died for their homeland, as it does not sound pompous. Khabarovsk and completely on the border of Blagoveshchensk stand close to China. And if the guys of the Ussuriysk outposts would not have kept Domansky, then it is not known what would happen next. What happened later? June 1 The Conference of Communist and Workers' Parties began in 1969. What was on the border with China? But, nothing. Everything stood on readiness No. 1 and even the second-line troops were at their borders, in the field. Then it was on August 13, 1969 in Kazakhstan, on Lake Zhalanashkol. And then there was the summer of 1970 on the island of Guildinsky, but the Chinese already they acted with caution. The tension at the border still remained, but it had already decreased. That's what the border guards achieved with their death.
      1. +1
        5 March 2016 22: 17
        And it is possible that you are right, especially considering that the Soviet side wanted to pass it on, but the Chinese ignored this.
  7. +6
    5 March 2016 09: 12
    In our Guards Krasnograd division, competitions of motorized rifle platoons (march and live fire in a platoon) for the prize named after Hero of the Soviet Union Senior Sergeant Vladimir Orekhov were annually held. And in the "training", the Pacific Division, in the museum of the formation, in the Volochaevsky town there was a very detailed exposition dedicated to our heroes. In the Chita regiment, where we were undergoing training, the deputy commander of the regiment was Lieutenant Colonel Smirnov, Knight of the Order of the Red Banner of Battle for the battles on Damanskoye.
    1. 0
      6 March 2016 23: 11
      moskowit

      I am glad that a generation of the military is growing that is different from the civilian.

      Let's pay attention to the words of the military moskowit. Said, shooting in the platoon for the prize. The platoon is 25 people, but the prize is one. Output. People work together for one, "common" goal. This is communist morality. You understand that you cannot get away from the morality of self-preservation. Only together.

      Fursenko, gave civilian morality to selfishness
      "nothing personal, just business." This is a regression.
  8. +4
    5 March 2016 10: 31
    Moreover, China paid much more for its provocation: according to unofficial data - and the official Chinese are carefully hiding to this day! - From 300 to 1000 soldiers and PLA officers were killed.




    there is such an article


    In the summer of 1970, the Chinese crossed the Ussuri River
    commander.
    ,,,,,
    Among other things, he was asked about the losses of the Chinese side during last year’s conflict. He replied that all those killed in Damansky were buried in three large mounds near the site of the conflict. The defector himself was at the burial site, and although the exact number of those lying there is unknown to him,
    senior comrades said that several hundred bodies were lowered into each grave.
    Thus, if the word is interpreted somewhat even at a minimum as 2, then the figure is 600. Most likely, there were significantly more deaths, for having buried 200 people in a mound, they would have said so - two hundred. And here is “a few hundred.”
    By the way, immediately after the battle, the Japanese media, referring to the data of their special services, called the figure about 3000 killed. It is significant that officials of the PRC did not refute these data, although in many other cases they reacted very sharply.
    Since then, no new information has been received regarding the number of Chinese dead, so the numbers 200, 600, 800, etc., flickering in the publications. can not be considered reliable.
    ,,,,

    What does this mean? And anything. For example, that in fact there is another burial, which the defector spoke of. They don’t carry tourists there, because otherwise they will have to talk about big losses, and the Chinese authorities do not need such truth even today. If this version is true, then the unknown burial should most likely be located in Hulin County, of which Daman Island (Zhenbao) is now part, but it is possible that Baoqing is still the only cemetery, however, only 68 were awarded with mention on the gravestones a person who is unknown by what principle is selected for this mystification.
    In any case, the PLA General Staff knows the exact answer to this question.
    “Questions of History,” 2005, No. 12,
    page 168-170 S. Ryabushkin
    What ended the events on Damansky Island





    In general, there are two such memorials of the Precious Island: one, which I will talk about today, is located directly on about. Daman, and the second is located 134 kilometers from it in the city of Baoqing, Heilongjiang Province
    http://fuyuan.ru/2188/

    68 martyrs are buried in the cemetery.
    http://fuyuan.ru/2231/
  9. +5
    5 March 2016 11: 41
    They defended it, laid their heads, and in the end they simply took it and gave it to China.

    It is once again confirmed that the current conflicts are not resolved on the battlefield, but in the offices of corrupt politicians (for me, all politicians are corrupt, greedy hypocrites)
  10. +5
    5 March 2016 11: 49
    Quote: Sirocco
    we now look like this, the glass is half empty, but we need to look like this, it is half full,

    A glass has been stolen from us for a long time: our own anti-people power and home-grown bourgeois.
  11. +4
    5 March 2016 11: 52
    Finally leave the island, which was attacked by the 24th PLA infantry regiment of 5 thousand people, the Chinese were convinced only by shells of secret weapons at that time - the Grad MLRS

    In Soviet times, there was a long legend that the Chinese were "burned with a laser." I remember my father and friends arguing in the 70s
  12. +6
    5 March 2016 12: 35
    Quote: Stas57
    Moreover, China paid much more for its provocation: according to unofficial data - and the official Chinese are carefully hiding to this day! - From 300 to 1000 soldiers and PLA officers were killed.

    China lost much more, because with the installations of the castle not only the island was covered, but also the adjacent territory of China, where reinforcements approached. After that, the Chinese fell silent.
  13. +1
    5 March 2016 13: 32
    Well, all the time on the Damansky shed our blood we must start a territorial dispute, and it is better to declare war, of course, after we defeat Turkey with the Saudis .... Why now this article ?? Just do not speak simply for general development .... It does not provoke ... From the beginning, let China not lease land to China for 49 years, decide Ukraine, put the economy on its feet in Syria, and then we can recall Damansky
    1. +6
      5 March 2016 14: 18
      Quote: mashinist
      Why this article now ??

      And besides, dear, that March 2 passed, and ahead of March 14, we must remember the children who died in Damansky.
      1. +3
        5 March 2016 16: 22
        Quote: Amurets
        And besides, dear, that March 2 passed, and ahead of March 14, we must remember the children who died in Damansky.

        And there was the Aigun Treaty of 1858 when the border with China passed along the Chinese wall, and it was moved along the river. Amur. Also, royal fools tried for our people.
        1. +1
          6 March 2016 01: 09
          Quote: Rivares

          And there was the Aigun Treaty of 1858 when the border with China passed along the Chinese wall, and it was moved along the river. Amur. Also, royal fools tried for our people.

          Read the Treaty of Nerchinsk from 1689. According to it, the border with China went along the Stanovoi Range. Muravyov-Amursky, taking advantage of the situation, moved it to Amur, closer to the Great Wall of China.
          1. +2
            6 March 2016 01: 59
            So I am about the same, the Nerchinsk Treaty is the result of the invasion of China. Amursky moved the border only a little closer to the Wall.
  14. +3
    5 March 2016 14: 31
    Chinas are preparing for war with us - this is understandable to any fool. I will not be unfounded.
    "Selected PLA motorized rifle units are conducting military exercises on the borders with Russia (translation of material from Chinese sources).
    The motorized rifle brigade of the 39th Army of the Shenyang Military District (which is deployed in the north of the country, near the border with Russia) conducted military exercises in winter conditions.
    With heavy snowfalls and low temperatures, motorized rifle formations of the ground forces continue to conduct military exercises to improve troops in "real combat conditions"
    It is noteworthy that it is the snowy terrain and severe frosts, according to the Ministry of Defense of China that are “real combat conditions”. A reasonable question arises, with what enemy is the Celestial Empire going to fight? Obviously not with Taiwan.
    In addition, facts such as the solid military budget of China, the continuous modernization and purchase of modern military equipment, and the conduct of exercises with the transfer of troops over long distances greatly displace the balance of forces with the northern neighbor. According to the Chinese themselves, the so-called "union" with Russia is nothing more than a temporary phenomenon and will be used to achieve economic and military superiority. And then, under the influence of sanctions, the Russian government will agree to any conditions with the Middle Kingdom. This is the real point of view of the Chinese, which for obvious reasons is not published by the official media.
    Original article from the website of the Ministry of Defense of China:
    高清: 第 39 集团军 机 步 旅 新兵 漫天 飞雪 中 训练
    2 月 22 日 , 辽 南 地区 普降 大雪 , 气温 骤降。 陆军 第 39 集团军 某 机 步 旅 充分 抓住 这 One 有利 时机 开展 实战 化 训练 , 不断 锤炼 部队 作战 能力。 (姜云峰 摄影 报道) "
    1. +3
      5 March 2016 14: 56
      Only a blind man does not see this. The Chinese will not stop nuclear strikes. they are quite casual in the press discussing losses from nuclear strikes. Underground cities have been built in which several tens of millions of people will sit out. And we give them su-35 and C 400 ......
    2. 0
      5 March 2016 15: 02
      The grave of our liberal government of the PRC may be afraid or not, because to normalize relations with the SGA, they can do any stupidity, such figures in the government are now I am not surprised at anything and all sorts of twists and turns are quite possible with Medina Medvedev’s curly chubais and others.
      1. 0
        5 March 2016 16: 33
        Quote: apro
        The grave of our liberal government of the PRC may fear or not? After all, to normalize relations with the SGA, they can do any stupidity

        Tell me, have you seen a lot of "nonsense done to normalize relations with the CIS" over the past ... well, 2-3 years, say?

        Quote: apro
        with naibulinami Medvedev curly chubais and others

        - Nabiullina is the Central Bank. And that’s all. Relationship to military affairs does not go numb
        - Medvedev is the head of government (such as the head). IMHO - has nothing to do with anything request
        - Kudrin - generally no one in the current formal hierarchy
        - Chubais - pushed into RosNano, to influence decisions (formally) .. yes, it just doesn’t have the opportunity.

        Attention, question: Are you still sure that

        Quote: apro
        all sorts of turns are quite possible

        This is a question Yes
    3. 0
      5 March 2016 16: 23
      Quote: Grave of B. Cross2
      Chinas preparing for war with us - this is understandable to any fool

      Quote: Grave of B. Cross2
      it is the snowy terrain and severe frosts, according to the Ministry of Defense of the People's Republic of China that are “real combat conditions”. A reasonable question arises, with what enemy is the Celestial Empire going to fight?

      Quote: Grave of B. Cross2
      According to the Chinese themselves, the so-called “union” with Russia is nothing more than a temporary phenomenon and will be used to achieve economic and military superiority

      Grave of B. Cross2, do you really admit that what you know (from open sources, I think) is unknown to the corresponding .. um .. services in the Russian Federation? And then to the very top?

      Do you really think that if some kind of reaction is being prepared (or carried out) for these threats, you will know about it sooner than they will write about it .. on the internet, gyyyyy laughing

      - if the answer to at least one question is "Yes", then you are naive
      - if the answer to both questions is "No", then your stuffing is a provocation, and you, accordingly, a provocateur

      What do you choose? wink

      PS: Yes .. maybe there is some other option, and I just did not notice it? request
      1. +3
        5 March 2016 17: 27
        I greet you. The fact is that, unlike you, I served on the Chinese border. (although maybe you also served there) We were taught that the Chinese are our first enemy. Worse, even than the United States. Then there were professionals.
        1) Now we are much weaker. And "our government" involved the Slavs in a civil war. Now we are at war with Ukraine. The Chinese are not overjoyed.
        2) About the oligarchy, I wrote everything to you, but everything is purple for you. It seems that you are with the sidekick oligarchs. No.
        3) Regarding the chinasian exercises on our border - all claims are in the Ministry of Defense of China. I am sure they will answer you. love
        1. 0
          5 March 2016 17: 48
          Quote: Grave of B. Cross2
          Greetings

          Mutually love

          However, you did not answer the question from my previous comment .. sorry, it would be interesting ..

          Quote: Grave of B. Cross2
          Now we are at war with Ukraine

          Yah? belay Apparently, I missed something in this life ..

          Quote: Grave of B. Cross2
          About the oligarchy, I wrote everything to you, but everything is purple for you. It seems that you are with the sidekick oligarchs

          You have a lot of .. um .. funny thoughts and "impressions", I understood that already, thanks wink

          Quote: Grave of B. Cross2
          Regarding the teachings of the Chinas on our border - all claims in the M about KMP

          KMR is probably China? Yes, I have no complaints against them, let them run around ..
        2. +1
          5 March 2016 23: 24
          It is interesting, but when I nibbled on military sciences (late 70's), for some reason only the USA and the FRG considered the armies of the likely enemy. We asked our commanders questions about China - for some reason they preferred to remain silent. Maybe someone else was hoping that two Kom. can parties overcome differences peacefully? And now I don’t even have a doubt - in case of a big conflict, the Chinese will sit aside for the time being and then join the obvious winner. On the other hand, I talk a lot with the Chinese (daily) and their attitude towards the Russians is inevitably friendly. In a more confidential conversation, one of them said that the generation of their parents (my contacts are mainly 30 +/- youth) sometimes spoke negatively, but in recent years this has decreased significantly.
          1. +1
            6 March 2016 01: 35
            Quote: SlavaP
            In a more confidential conversation, one of them said that the generation of their parents (my contacts are mostly young people 30 +/-) sometimes spoke negatively, but in recent years this has decreased significantly.

            I lived most of my life in Blagoveshchensk. For those who don’t say anything, it’s about a kilometer from the PRC. And in the most stressful years, the PRC government resettled the local population inland, populating the surrounding territories with degenerates such as the Hungweibs and Zzaofani. they realized that it was better to be friends than to fight here, especially after March 1969. And there was never propaganda to escalate enmity between the USSR and the PRC. Relations were tense, I do not deny it, but not when there was propaganda enmity. I served May 1969-June1971 and never talked about aganda hostility to KNR.Zdes Tomb nepravdu.Govorilos says that we must be vigilant.
            1. +1
              6 March 2016 20: 19
              And you take a map and see what were the fortified areas and what parts were in the KDVO then. You could not see this card - it was secret. And I saw something (I won’t lie, not all too). So. All this indicated that the leadership of the USSR strengthened the Far Eastern Military District (Red Banner) in every possible way. And now those who sit in the Kremlin are selling the latest weapons to the Chinas. They also strengthen the KDVO, only on the other hand they strengthen it, from the Chinese. My personal opinion is that this is national treason. And she still comes around to us. By the way, the part in which I served took part in the events in Damansky. And I personally talked with the participants in the hostilities (although when they fought there I didn’t go to school yet).
  15. 0
    5 March 2016 15: 29
    This is a good article for those who, with any curtsey towards Russia, begin to sing with admiration an asana like: "Well done Chinese!", "Hurray juche!", "Hezbollah is whoa!" Well done guys have shown themselves and will show more than once!
  16. +2
    5 March 2016 16: 16
    Memory! That is the most important thing! Our land or Chinese is another story! A blessed memory to those who died, they fell for the Motherland, and health and strength alive!
  17. +2
    5 March 2016 17: 23
    I wrote this back in 2001. Let it be politically incorrect now.
    Friends are forgotten in happiness
    We do not need their sorrows ...
    What heart have left
    For our huge country?

    In self-care
    Believe me - they are useless.
    Aliens, Chinese flags
    Hang on our country.

    There will be Chinese songs
    Chinese pot-bellied singing.
    And in many different holes
    We have Russian channels.

    Do not need a soul in breadth
    And have clear eyes
    In the conical, wet underground
    The poets then die.

    Not enough bullet or weight
    No old french friends
    To knock the spirit out of "progress"
    From the East creeping towards her ....


    © Copyright: Zmei, 2001
  18. 0
    5 March 2016 17: 43
    This question is periodically raised. I was a participant in these events. I remember a number of commentators were extremely unhappy with the memories of those events. At that time, there was an opinion about the Chinese as allies.
  19. +3
    5 March 2016 18: 10
    And then before the Soviet-Chinese Great War there was only a little bit. And the guys who were treacherously killed at the very beginning of the provocation are especially sorry. This is how the Turks meanly shot down our Su-24.
  20. +2
    5 March 2016 20: 06
    Dalnerechensk. I photographed in 2012. But at the end of the 70s, I remember the same monument.
  21. 0
    5 March 2016 21: 16
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Article +, but a little bit stupidly describes how specifically defended Damansky, forces and means of the parties, chronology, etc.


    I was lucky enough to talk with a participant in those events, in a nutshell you can not tell.
  22. +2
    5 March 2016 23: 35
    Quote: Grigorievich
    Quote: Stas57
    Moreover, China paid much more for its provocation: according to unofficial data - and the official Chinese are carefully hiding to this day! - From 300 to 1000 soldiers and PLA officers were killed.

    China lost much more, because with the installations of the castle not only the island was covered, but also the adjacent territory of China, where reinforcements approached. After that, the Chinese fell silent.

    The OREdn (separate jet division) of the motorized rifle division worked, which covered the rear of that section of the border. These are 3 batteries with 6 installations in each, a total of 18 vehicles, actually 720 barrels on a tiny area of ​​the front, so the smell of "shish kebab" was still there.
  23. 0
    6 March 2016 00: 18
    Russia must return to its roots. It means getting on your foundation. And then this will be the beginning of a very grandiose. Big begins unnoticed.
  24. +4
    6 March 2016 03: 37
    What surprises me the most about the Daman conflict is the position of our generals. In particular, the command of the Pacific Border District and the border troops of the KGB of the USSR.
    After all, the conflict did not fall from heaven.
    It was brewing, from the beginning it was peaceful demonstrations with posters, slogans, quotes, and from the end of January 1969, demonstrations rallied into brawls involving dozens of Chinese, then the "peaceful" demonstrators got edged and firearms. Once charged SKS rifles appeared, it is clear to everyone that they will be used from the beginning as a threat, but the Soviet border guards will not be intimidated by a charged rifle, they will not run away from the sight of the rifle, but mean the rifle will fire.
    In the second half of February, the Chinese began to conduct preparatory activities in close proximity to Damansky. They carried out reconnaissance, cleared the roads a week before the events, because the Chinese used quite large forces directly in the conflict, namely a reinforced five-armed battalion, two 82 mm mortar batteries, one battery of guns against armored targets. This is hard not to notice. The border guards saw this and reported to the generals upstairs.
    And on the day of the conflict on March 2, the Nizhnemikhalovskaya outpost turned out to be half staffed, and of the three staff officers, there was only one outpost commander, Ivan Strelnikov, in some respects there was an acting outpost commander. In the first minutes of the clash, he was killed and the outpost turned out to be without a commander at all.
    Why did the generals not strengthen the outpost, at least until the staff, because it was clear that it was here that a serious conflict was brewing.
    On March 2, almost two hours later 32 Soviet border guards were killed, and the border guard command appeared at the scene four hours later, by helicopter. Although the journey took only 15 minutes.
    The task force of the border district, led by General Lobanov, arrived the next day, a day later. What kind of task force is this? Looks like General Lobanov decided not to spoil his day off, rest, sleep, and already in the morning of March 3, begin to figure out what happened on Damansky and how 32 border guards died. As if every day 32 border guards die.
  25. 0
    6 March 2016 15: 51
    It would not be bad to recall, but why did the conflict in Damansky arise at all. Business. IMHO, not in casuism when interpreting the line of demarcation. This is just an excuse. And there was also a reason - the betrayal of Khrushchev.

    Nobody justifies Stalin - in that part when he, for paranoid reasons, did monstrous things.
    De-Stalinization had to be done. But the question is HOW!

    The traitor Khrushchev, who from Ukraine himself sent Stalin executives in batches, did this from the rostrum of the congress, to the whole world. It was possible to do this gradually and behind the scenes. It was impossible to amnesty? Can! Deal with Beria? Can! Change the governance of the country? Can! Remove monuments to Stalin? It is possible - excess; but picking out the bas-reliefs of Stalin from monumental images in the palace metro stations is too much. Everything could be done gradually and without screaming.

    Here is Mao Zedong and offended. To the extent that such hatred of the USSR never happened before anywhere else. Khrushchev sowed - and then had to keep 40 divisions in the Far East for decades. One word is a pest, with square-nested brains.
  26. +1
    6 March 2016 17: 55
    The normal political decision of the country's elite (if it was, and not this marked) when solving the political task of normalizing relations between countries is to demarcate the border along the fairway, provided that the territory of Fr. Damansky for Russia (no matter how the state is called). Everything else, from my point of view, is a betrayal of national (all not only Russian) Russia.
  27. 0
    6 March 2016 22: 49
    Quote: Aleks.Antonov
    Your friend's father is probably Uzbek now. And then, for the whole world, he was Russian! It annoys me that now everyone has become embarrassed to use the words: “Soviet,” Soviet man, “Soviet soldier.” However, at that time, for the whole world, “Russian” and “Soviet” were synonymous words. Unfortunately, the national ideology of Bolshevism corroded like rust, first Soviet society, and now corrodes Russian society, and the societies of all countries that have arisen in the post-Soviet space.
    I didn’t hear something, so that someone would be indignant when an American is called an American! What the hell is he, American ?! Is he from the Siu tribe? Or the Navaja tribe? He has just arrived from the glorious city of Namangan, received a green card and proudly declares himself an AMERICAN! And his Uzbek, it DOESN’T BOX! And do not resent. After all, he is not Russian! He is American.

    Do not confuse Russian and Russian