"Drang nah Merkel", or Problems with Arab and African refugees in northern Russia

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Federal channels literally give out daily sentimental reports about how old Europe suffers from the influx of migrants from the countries of the Middle East and Africa. A sensational recent report on how thousands of furious refugees in Greece decided to defeat the obstacles arranged by the Macedonian security forces in the Macedonian-Greek cordon with improvised means. The main message of the refugees is: let us go further to the north, because your Macedonia doesn’t interest us at all - give us Austria, Germany or, at worst, Denmark.

The rally of refugees on the border breakthrough finally acquired an uncontrollable character when, from the official Skopje, they said that we would miss the 150-170 man. The rage of the refugees turned into the broken Macedonian defense lines, and the descendants of Alexander the Great could not resist the migrant crowds who wanted to “pick up” from a hospitable European Union ... arrange your "Drang nah Merkel".

All these attempts from afar look like something resembling a Hollywood action movie, with the only exception that there is no protagonist - a sort of Bruce Willis - that would help “save the world” from a new threat. However, the remote picture of the vicissitudes associated with the influx of Middle Eastern refugees, as it turns out, turned out to be remote for the time being. The fact is that now there are more frequent reports about the fact that this or that group of refugees, you understand, is expressing discontent in Russia too.

One of the hot spots on the map of the Russian Federation in terms of the influx of migrants from countries that are by no means the Red East is the Murmansk region. At first, it was about the “migrant family”, which really wants to be either in Norway (not a member of the EU), or in Finland. Then news agencies began to report on "several families" who were "temporarily" housed in several hostels and hotels in the region. And now it has come to the point that news up to a hundred refugees from various Asian and African states, striving to the West, and simultaneously organizing actions of disobedience to law enforcement officers, appear in the reports.

Murmansk publications and blogs are a real alarm. So, the news agency FlashNord writes that Arab and African refugees, quickly mobilized, staged an unauthorized rally in Kandalaksha. If we consider that the population of Kandalaksha itself is just over 33 thousand people, even a hundred well-organized migrants for this city are a signal.

"Drang nah Merkel", or Problems with Arab and African refugees in northern Russia


The fact is that, for understandable reasons, the authorities of neighboring Finland are not eager to let in their “friends” from the South and the East, and in the Murmansk region, the number of those who, to begin with, just towards Suomi and pricked up “skis” is gradually increasing. As already noted, "the day before yesterday" - five, "yesterday" - fifty, today - a hundred ... And how much will be tomorrow and the day after tomorrow - a question that remains open, and not open without the participation of the Finnish authorities, who do not want to open their arms to receive of refugees. They need it ...

Murmansk blog and TV channel "People's TV" report that migrants with no northern skin tones took to the city streets, protesting against being "thrown" by so-called carriers. We are talking about people who, for a very decent fee (sometimes several thousand euros), volunteered to transport refugees from Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Yemen or Sudan through Russian territory to Finland or Norway. The fact that the carriers “threw” them, the refugees, as they claim, understood when they were stuck in Murmansk hostels not for a day or two, as they were promised, but for weeks and months.

And a hundred refugees, as they say, make a rustling in the open spaces of the Kola Peninsula, and what if this is not the limit? .. What will happen if Finland decides that the refugees will be allowed to move and Russia will be forced to face a growing number of migrants, of whom someone also "threw" ... And the fact that the number of people who want to "throw" will not run dry is a fact, because certain people earn good money on refugees. The whole question is who are these mysterious people who take substantial money from the refugees, not just spending them all over Russia, but also placing them in hotels, hostels and other housing facilities of the same Murmansk region.

The scheme, apparently, is simple: a certain citizen “X” offers help to the refugee “Igrek”. The offer, of course, is not free. Refugee "Igrek" in the presence of his money pays a citizen "X" a sort of first installment to get, for example, through the territory of neighboring countries of the Russian Federation to Russia. Citizen X says that Russia is not at all Macedonia, it does not build any fences for migrants and at the same time borders on several countries of the coveted EU, plus Norway. A refugee "Igrek" with a puppy delight goes on a journey through the largest country in the world, where they are required to pay a second "registration fee" for help in crossing, for example, the Finnish border. The refugee "Igrek", realizing that the cherished European dream is very close, forks again, but then citizen "X" disappears somewhere (of course, purely for good reason), and the situation comes in the style "sees an eye (Finland), yes the tooth hurt. " Some refugees, in a rage, are trying to organize protest actions, while others suddenly begin to think that here (in Russia) is not bad at all, and that Finland will wait ... Kandalaksha - she, of course, is not Frankfurt am Main, but not what anyone Kunduz or Fallujah ...

Murmansk authorities scratched their heads, thinking that something must be done ... After all, if you sit on the fifth point exactly, then tomorrow 100 and 1000 people will come out to protest, and the number of hotels in Kandalaksha and Apatity will have to be doubled for free. .. Having realized that such a prospect is not at all warm, they decided to use a proven tool - OMON. The Murmansk OMON forces, as they say, explained in an accessible language that it is unfriendly and not worthy to raise a wave of discontent. Most of the explanation was understood with half the hint. However, there were those who did not understand. I had to explain in the language of "dry numbers" - almost in the literal sense of the word - for the most violent found 10,242 of hashish. And this is a reason, no - not to send it to court, so that later the Russian state at the expense of the Russian taxpayers also fed "friends from the fraternal East", but a reason to wave to their friends, going to the house, with a callous hand.

Locally - exit. Against the general background, it is not at all a way out, for already tomorrow the refugees “Igrek”, “Zet” and others can try their luck again and wave to Russia and through Russia. And in this case, there is only one effective way out - the competent structures should not leave without special attention the actions of the above-mentioned citizens of “X”, who provide “friends from the East” with non-repayable services for meeting, transit and, less frequently, transportation for cordon.
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    1. +170
      3 March 2016 06: 05
      I live in Murmansk, I often wander to the region, so I am aware of the general news) there were problems with refugees once in Polyarnye Zory, very quickly they were reassured there) Today they started to "buzz" in Kandalaksha, so riot police immediately found drugs there)) PS We will not spoil you!))
      1. +58
        3 March 2016 06: 08
        Quote: Cetegg
        ) Today they started to "buzz" in Kandalaksha, so the riot police immediately found drugs there))

        I have seen enough news from Europe where they download the rights and decided that this is also possible in Russia.
        1. +88
          3 March 2016 06: 15
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          in Russia this is also possible.

          You can, but it all ends either with "stars" from non-tolerant local residents, or with problems with the authorities)) In Russia, mother should not demand, but forgive, compassionate people will help, but let them demand at home! .. or in Europe!)
          1. +82
            3 March 2016 06: 39
            No matter how many times you say that the Russian border should be "locked", everything is useless!
            The fact that the structures of the United States and Western Europe will tie the Russian Federation into the "refugee" stream of the so-called. "economic" (parasitically social) migrants have been spoken for a long time - even when the so-called. "labor" migrants from Central Asia have filled the central cities of Russia in recent years and have not only distorted the Russian labor market, but also increased crime and the burden on the social sphere. Even then, it was said that the statistics of the FMS of Russia did not correspond to reality.
            Therefore, we must assume that the situation with the "refugees" in the Murmansk region is much worse than the media informs about them.
            "Refugees" will NOT work anywhere in their places of residence! This conclusion can be drawn by analogy with the results of labor registration in the Russian Federation of the so-called. foreign "labor" migrants - only about 15% of the arrivals are registered in the Russian Federation.
            1. +19
              3 March 2016 07: 36
              Quote: Tatiana
              No matter how many times you say that the Russian border should be "locked", everything is useless!

              Those who are in Murmansk all have student and tourist visas. How do you imagine a "castle"?
              The validity period will end and they will all be torn out, and the matter is with the end.
              migrants from Central Asia filled the central cities of Russia in recent years and not only deformed the Russian labor market,

              That's how I watch the ruble fall, my wipers have fallen off, now instead of 20 Tajiks, 1,5 Russians are poking around.
              1. +20
                3 March 2016 08: 00
                Quote: Gray Brother
                Quote: Tatiana
                No matter how many times you say that the Russian border should be "locked", everything is useless!

                Those who are in Murmansk all have student and tourist visas. How do you imagine a "castle"?
                The validity period will end and they will all be torn out, and the matter is with the end.
                migrants from Central Asia filled the central cities of Russia in recent years and not only deformed the Russian labor market,

                That's how I watch the ruble fall, my wipers have fallen off, now instead of 20 Tajiks, 1,5 Russians are poking around.

                Tuck out?
                You want to say that millions of newcomers are here legally?
                Awesome naivety.
                Example? "Bloody nanny" worked in Moscow for 3 years without any registration. Nobody inquired, neither who she is, nor where she lives, nor the health or political views of the killer ...
                Have the janitors dumped? Yes, they just found a more interesting business here. Janitors of the 30 earned they earned 20 thousand had to give the tenant. The rates were reduced and there was nothing to give. Here are some of them that go to markets, construction sites and warehouses ... or to crime.
                1. +25
                  3 March 2016 08: 13
                  Quote: Cap.Morgan
                  You want to say that millions of newcomers are here legally?

                  You do not confuse blacks from Africa with CIS citizens. In the CIS, we have a visa-free regime, and blacks need visas.

                  Quote: Cap.Morgan
                  without any registration. No one asked who she was,

                  It is strange that the child’s parents did not bother with this either.

                  Quote: Cap.Morgan
                  Janitors of the 30 earned 20 thousand they had to give to the tenant

                  Bullshit. They have a salary of 18,5 to 24 thousand.
                  1. +16
                    3 March 2016 08: 29
                    Quote: Gray Brother
                    Quote: Cap.Morgan
                    You want to say that millions of newcomers are here legally?

                    You do not confuse blacks from Africa with CIS citizens. In the CIS, we have a visa-free regime, and blacks need visas.



                    Quote: Cap.Morgan
                    Janitors of the 30 earned 20 thousand they had to give to the tenant

                    Bullshit. They have a salary of 18,5 to 24 thousand.


                    I don’t confuse blacks with Asians, I just don’t see much difference. For us at least.

                    As for the salary of the janitor, it’s piece-rate, you can clean one yard, or you can 4.
                    They always gave part of the earnings to employers - officials responsible for improvement. But that is not the point. Having worked as janitors and looking around, the former inhabitants of the villages find other, more profitable activities. Forcing out the local population, or even replenishing the ranks of criminality.
                    The FMS, often, only imitates activities, dragging completely random people into the courts. There is a whole business to provide services.
                    1. +12
                      3 March 2016 08: 56
                      Quote: Cap.Morgan
                      They always gave part of the earnings to employers - officials responsible for improvement.

                      This is called "acquire a patent for a work activity" and it is a legal operation.
                      The janitors are not hired by officials, but by companies working in the housing and utilities sector.
                      I see you generally swim in question.

                      Quote: Cap.Morgan
                      Having worked as janitors and looking around, the former inhabitants of the villages find other, more profitable activities.

                      Those who worked in my house were dumped home. And do not make hundreds of them, they are the same people as everyone else - there is urody, there are normal ones, as in any society.
                      FMS is often

                      A long time ago, I see, the deportation centers on TV did not show. And they do not show them because there Ad and Israel - the test subjects are stacked.
                      The FMS is working normally - no dirt is needed. All capacities are fully loaded.
                      I see on your part a biased attitude towards the issue.
                      1. +3
                        3 March 2016 09: 31
                        Drang nah Merkel

                        I beg your pardon, how is the word "Drang" translated? - Go?
                      2. +4
                        3 March 2016 12: 04
                        Quote: Temples
                        Drang nah Merkel

                        I beg your pardon, how is the word "Drang" translated? - Go?


                        Exactly. Movement, march, etc. And the word "nah" can not be translated, and leave it. It turns out to be a wonderful Russian-German phrase.
                      3. +3
                        3 March 2016 12: 05
                        Quote: Temples
                        Drang nah Merkel

                        I beg your pardon, how is the word "Drang" translated? - Go?

                        No onslaught! bully
                        The famous expression Drang nach Osten is literally "push to the east". But the tracing paper from that expression Drang nach Merkel - "onslaught on Merkel" sounds somewhat ambiguous ... feel
                        hi
                      4. +7
                        3 March 2016 17: 48
                        Quote: andj61
                        Quote: Temples
                        Drang nah Merkel

                        I beg your pardon, how is the word "Drang" translated? - Go?

                        No onslaught! bully
                        The famous expression Drang nach Osten is literally "push to the east". But the tracing paper from that expression Drang nach Merkel - "onslaught on Merkel" sounds somewhat ambiguous ... feel
                        hi

                        And I was more interested in the word "tries". laughing I feel in my gut that the direction, but unfortunately I don’t speak German.
                      5. +2
                        3 March 2016 18: 39
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        And I was more interested in the word "tries". Here in my gut I sense that the direction, but unfortunately I do not speak German.

                        Correctly interested! good
                        In Russian it looks more abbreviated - just "on", but in German - less abbreviated, so it turns out "nah"! bully drinks
                      6. +1
                        3 March 2016 18: 41
                        You can write simply - Drang fuck ...
                      7. +1
                        4 March 2016 06: 38
                        Quote: Barkhan
                        I feel in my gut that direction

                        I mean, like Vasily Ivanovich: I can smell a liter inside, but I can’t express it in mathematical language ... feel
                      8. +24
                        3 March 2016 09: 44
                        In Samara, at Frunze 112, there is the center of the Federal Migration Service for the Samara Region, I work there nearby, when I go to lunch I constantly see the same picture - a handful of citizens from the southern republics, already eaten fellow tribesmen come out to them, with massive gold chains, and distribute the documents ... An Armenian works in our department, he was born in Samara, grew up, but his wife is from Armenia, he has no Russian citizenship. And as it turns out, it is incredibly difficult for an Armenian citizen who married a Russian citizen and gave birth to a Russian citizen. So there is no need to say how "overworked" the FMS bodies are.
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                        3 March 2016 10: 52
                        Quote: Belousov
                        And as it turns out, getting his citizen of Armenia married to a citizen of Russia and giving birth to a citizen of Russia is incredibly difficult.

                        I have an old friend, an Armenian. He has been living in St. Petersburg for a very long time. And he also married an Armenian from his historical homeland. He had no problems getting his wife a passport and residence permit. When she arrived, she practically did not speak Russian. Now she speaks better than her husband. And got a job and everything is fine with them. So these are your local troubles. Or your friend is too lazy to walk like legs.
                      11. +2
                        3 March 2016 21: 08
                        Quote: 1rl141
                        Quote: Belousov
                        And as it turns out, getting his citizen of Armenia married to a citizen of Russia and giving birth to a citizen of Russia is incredibly difficult.

                        I have an old friend, an Armenian. He has been living in St. Petersburg for a very long time. And he also married an Armenian from his historical homeland. He had no problems getting his wife a passport and residence permit. When she arrived, she practically did not speak Russian. Now she speaks better than her husband. And got a job and everything is fine with them. So these are your local troubles. Or your friend is too lazy to walk like legs.

                        It’s not just walking around there.
                        There you can also stand in lines, sometimes at night, sometimes take part in clashes with the same poor fellow, sometimes deal with the court, unless of course you have a tidy sum that your old Armenian friend might have had.
                      12. 0
                        3 March 2016 11: 32
                        prejudiced attitude to the question ??? The police, the Federal Migration Service, employers ... this is not a complete list of those who profit from the citizens of the CIS, if in doubt, talk to them better ... most of them are literate people with secondary or higher education ... But what is most they have to give their earnings, if not to officials and employers, then to their "local mafiosi" for "imaginary" protection from the same policemen and officials, and generates in them anger towards the local population ...
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                      14. +8
                        3 March 2016 13: 10
                        apostoll
                        most of them are literate people with secondary or higher education.

                        Do not be naive! Forget about the fact that mostly “most of them are literate people with secondary or higher education” come to us!
                        Firstly, this is not true. It was 15 years ago, when mainly the urban population came to Russia from Central Asia, and now mostly illiterate or illiterate people from rural areas come to us from there, without any professions.
                        And secondly, here is a video from October 11 of 2013 of the year - for naive Russians who have historically lagged behind life and continue to think in the spirit of Soviet fraternal national ideology and politics. These Russians do not at all take into account that after the collapse of the USSR and the fall of socialism, foreign migrants from Central Asia, etc. are guided by YOUR national IDEOLOGY and the RULES of life. And then what can we say about TOLERANCE of Arabs and Africans towards Russia ?!
                      15. +2
                        3 March 2016 19: 51
                        Novosibirsk, left bank - right on the doors of the FMS (where the work schedule is posted) a kind of "pocket" is drawn up and there - business cards + A4 paper, it says: registration: permanent and temporary. Evgeniy. and phone. That's so simple.
                        But if you have delayed something with your passport, you are immediately happy to receive the same FMS protocol, fine and very dissatisfied. This is called - used an invalid passport (homemade or what?). There are a lot of us and reporting, therefore, therefore, the FMS does not suffer at all. This is their job. And overwhelmed terribly from the same.
                      16. +2
                        3 March 2016 12: 54
                        I confirm, indeed more than a year there has been an outflow of Central Asians from the Russian Federation: salaries have decreased, construction sites have quieted down, many companies have gone bankrupt .. Buses with Uzbeks do not go now as before, when they STOP from Uzbekistan ..
                      17. +4
                        3 March 2016 13: 27
                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        This is called "acquire a patent for a work activity" and it is a legal operation.

                        it is a necessary but not sufficient condition for a job. in our case it is also rolled out with the Russians, and God himself ordered the officials with the migrants ...
                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        Those who worked in my house, dumped home

                        at the station they were escorted? waved after the train?
                      18. +2
                        3 March 2016 21: 02
                        Quote: Gray Brother
                        Quote: Cap.Morgan
                        They always gave part of the earnings to employers - officials responsible for improvement.

                        This is called "acquire a patent for a work activity" and it is a legal operation.
                        The janitors are not hired by officials, but by companies working in the housing and utilities sector.
                        I see you generally swim in question.

                        Quote: Cap.Morgan
                        Having worked as janitors and looking around, the former inhabitants of the villages find other, more profitable activities.

                        Those who worked in my house were dumped home. And do not make hundreds of them, they are the same people as everyone else - there is urody, there are normal ones, as in any society.
                        FMS is often

                        A long time ago, I see, the deportation centers on TV did not show. And they do not show them because there Ad and Israel - the test subjects are stacked.
                        The FMS is working normally - no dirt is needed. All capacities are fully loaded.
                        I see on your part a biased attitude towards the issue.

                        You confuse two things - a patent and general bribery of officials in the housing sector.
                        The hired janitor does not receive a salary according to the bill.
                        For him, Ivan Ivanovich, the head of the janitors, receives a salary, who rewards his wards at his discretion, leaving a significant part of the income in his pocket.
                        Far from the best representatives come to us, academics and professors as a rule stay at home, but unprincipled people come to us in pursuit of a long ruble.
                    2. +12
                      3 March 2016 09: 22
                      Gray brother
                      Those who are in Murmansk all with STUDENT and TOURIST visas. How do you imagine a "castle"?
                      The validity period will end and they will all be torn out, and the matter is with the end.
                      You do not confuse blacks from Africa with CIS citizens. In the CIS, we have a visa-free regime, and blacks need visas.

                      Here you contradict yourself.
                      If blacks have STUDENT and TOURIST visas, as you say, then what kind of “refugees” they are ?! to feed them free of charge and provide them with housing in the same cities of the Murmansk region ?! With their "refugee" demands against Russia, they are ordinary offenders - and you can expel them from the country right now.
                      And by the so-called the foreign “labor” migrants had already had too much discussion! You, apparently, at one time missed their attention.
                      I advise you to read at least the article “Financial Risks of the National Security of the Russian Federation from Foreign Labor Migration” dated March 23 2015, together with comments. - http://topwar.ru/71406-finansovye-riski-nacionalnoy-bezopasnosti-rf-ot-inostrann
                      oy-trudovoy-migracii.html
                      and at least watch this video from 2011 of the year.
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                        3 March 2016 10: 31
                        Quote: Tatiana

                        If blacks have STUDENT and TOURIST visas, as you say, then what kind of refugees are they?

                        In my opinion, the article does not say anywhere that these are refugees.
                      2. +2
                        3 March 2016 11: 11
                        eight times - quite enough - in the article.
                      3. 0
                        3 March 2016 11: 22
                        SPACE59
                        In my opinion, the article does not say anywhere that these are refugees.

                        Well you give! belay What is this?
                        From the text of the article
                        The Murmansk blog and the Narodnoe TV channel report that migrants didn’t take the northern shades of skin to the city streets, protesting that they were “thrown” by the so-called carriers. We are talking about people who, for a very decent fee (sometimes several thousand euros), volunteered to transport refugees from Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Yemen or Sudan through Russian territory to Finland or Norway. The refugees, as they claimed, understood that the carriers “threw them” when they got stuck in Murmansk dormitories not for a day or two, as they were promised, but for weeks and months.
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                    3. -6
                      3 March 2016 11: 26
                      And you do not confuse blacks with Asians, especially from Central Asia. Our mentality is at least the same. If you do not see the difference, then apparently you have not come across either blacks or people from Central Asia.
                      1. +3
                        4 March 2016 06: 49
                        Quote: Razvedka_Boem
                        then apparently you have not encountered either blacks or people from Central Asia.

                        faced, and for a long time and repeatedly ... and nothing has changed since the past time. The same illiteracy, the absence of any banks, arrogance and understanding ONLY what they can get from a turnip for any wrongdoing, only this slows them down. and since they are now being accepted into the EU, they don’t understand the realities, for them the current behavior of the EU residents is powerlessness and a reason to get involved. You will excuse me, but back in the Soviet years, many visitors from the republics of Central Asia could not adapt for life in central Russia, what now can we say about immigrants from Central Asia or BV? request
                      2. +4
                        4 March 2016 11: 03
                        They say a fly in the ointment, spoils a barrel of honey .. No need to judge by the gastrobayter about the rest. I myself am an Uzbek. He grew up in a Russian kindergarten in a Russian school. Our family speaks two languages ​​- Uzbek and Russian, sometimes English). I repeat once again - unlike the Negroes, we have a common mentality. People are different than in the days of the USSR, more cynical, more practical .. If visitors behave in such a way that they violate the rules .. So everyone doesn’t care. Last year I was in Moscow, on a business trip, surprised at the indifference of people. For example, in the passage, a young mother tried with a stroller where there was a baby going down. Everyone passed by. He came up and helped. And the people in Moscow ... looked at the faces ... well, the meat they ... was not felt in them. And a sharp contrast when a couple of times I saw Caucasians. Internally assembled, with an aura of confidence and calm. Can you imagine blacks in the Caucasus?
                        If visitors create a mess, then the problem is with the locals, not with the visitors.
                        I also paid attention to the police - in the subway, on the street .. Salagi. Young, with no experience. What they will do if something happens .. is unknown.
                  2. +3
                    3 March 2016 11: 25
                    well, yes, from 18- that's for sure, but until .... it's history is silent ... these people take up any job, even the cheapest, and after finishing one job go to another, take up any part-time job, even the dirtiest ... save your intelligent asses from the possibility of getting dirty ...)))
                    And about crime, so here it is not about the people, and not about ....
                    the matter is in the structure of society, are there few criminals among Russians? Or are they "our criminals" for you? Is it Uzbek drug addicts who take pensions from grandmothers, breaking their heads in the doorway?
                    LOOK BACK PEOPLE !!!! everything that happens around you is just a consequence of your INACTIVITY !!!!! ...
                    You all allowed this, did not take any action to prevent this from happening ...
                    If three Russians beat an "Asian" or "Caucasian" and their fellow countryman passes by, he will certainly stand up for "his", even if he does not know him at all ...
                    And if three "Asians" or "Caucasians" beat a Russian, then 99% of Russians passing by would pass by, and 70% would also think: "It's my own fault" !!!, so that later their conscience won't torment ...
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                      3 March 2016 17: 41
                      In my opinion, the word "mentality" in my comment was mistaken for a curse ..)
                    2. +3
                      3 March 2016 19: 08
                      I’ll say more, we recently got out of a woman from the savings bank, 32 of the year, decently dressed, fell, so her people went around 14 minutes (judging by the cameras), then someone still called the ambulance, but late, the heart attack died in place ... Maybe she would have had a banal validol ....
                      And you will "beat" .....
                2. 0
                  3 March 2016 17: 49
                  ### Th! How everyone got bored with this nanny, made a fuss! Are you people really that stupid or are you pretending? Yes, in Russia, mothers of babies are thrown into the trash heaps, by the way, Russian by nationality !! Tell me there are no such cases? The problem here is not nationality or religion, for sure. Who "protects" all these Gaster Aren't RUSSIAN POLICIANS with big stars on their epaulets? Enough to raise a booze on ethnic grounds, it is not Tajik-Uzbeks, etc., who are to blame, but the shtetl (the local language does not dare to call them) authorities. Yes, and we ourselves, in principle, by our attitude to laws, if we do not respect our laws and each other, what do you want from guests from "Gorno Badakhshan" No. While everything in this country is measured in rubles, the situation will only worsen.
              2. +2
                3 March 2016 13: 19
                Those who are in Murmansk all have student and tourist visas. How do you imagine a "castle"?

                and WHO issued them these visas and on what basis?
                (this issuance of visas needs to be tightened, let B first start transferring a deposit for deportation to the account of the migration service, then draw up an entry visa!)
          2. +21
            3 March 2016 06: 40
            Quote: Cetegg
            t, but they demand let them at home! ..

            Where is their house? For them, a house where the ass is good. The concept of homeland is generally empty for them. These are completely different people and can only be understood when they are broken through a knee.
            This is to the fact that these will not ask, they are used to demand.
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            2. +4
              3 March 2016 07: 21
              Yes ! Great changes are coming! If deeper and wider, then the Bavarian Caliphate and the Normad Sultanate will appear. fellow
              1. +2
                3 March 2016 12: 08
                Quote: a.hamster55
                Yes ! Great changes are coming! If deeper and wider, then the Bavarian Caliphate and the Normad Sultanate will appear. fellow

                And it will be like in a series of books by V. Panov "Enclaves" and Londanabad, and El-Paris! laughing
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                3. +4
                  3 March 2016 17: 39
                  Just re-reading! How he looked into the water! Guess!
          3. +19
            3 March 2016 07: 39
            Quote: Cetegg
            You can, that's just it all ends either with "stars" from not tolerant local residents, or problems with the authorities))

            In principle, you can’t argue. But the other day in the capital, the people got rid of the cops and heaps. Two guys stupidly stood and shot a frozen woman with a child’s head in their hands. Here we need to take an example from the Jews, there any civilian would instantly shoot a wild image. And we there are so many trunks (even injuries) in the hands of the population, and to no avail. Weapons are taken out after being taken to the chest or during rams, and when it came to real use, i.e. sewn up, the picture was sad.
            1. +19
              3 March 2016 09: 57
              Quote: nimble
              any civilian would instantly shoot a wild image. And we have so many trunks (even injuries) in the hands of the population, but to no avail. Weapons are taken out after being taken to the chest or during rams, and when it came to real use, that is. sewn up, the picture was sad.


              Thanks to the Russian authorities. They strangled the national consciousness of the Slavic peoples at the root. For a T-shirt with the inscription "I am Russian" and sports jogging with the Slavic flag they are pursued, pressed, strangled, substituted in the end
              1. +1
                3 March 2016 10: 24
                Quote: sherp2015

                Thanks to the Russian authorities. They strangled the national consciousness of the Slavic peoples at the root. For a T-shirt with the inscription "I am Russian" and sports jogging with the Slavic flag they are pursued, pressed, strangled, substituted in the end

                It's not just the authorities. We, the Orthodox (I will not mention other Christians, as long as they are pissed off in life, and I don’t care how many of them die), we begin to unite the current in case of mortal danger, and we try to ruin each other for the rest of the time. The roofing felts are green and star-white-blue, they are always consolidated and will never let a fellow believer offend. Until such a relationship is revived, there will only be bright rays of the manifestation of Slavic identity in the form of Pugachevo, Kondopoga, Manezh and Sagra.
              2. 0
                3 March 2016 13: 19
                but in my opinion you are breaking
            2. -1
              3 March 2016 13: 18
              yes, but dead testimony cannot give, then you yourself will start yelling where they say the authorities are looking "without trial and investigation who does not get justice" in 90 it already happened, so you should not call for illegal actions ... maybe you also have a psychiatrist need to be checked? sergeant?
          4. +7
            3 March 2016 10: 28
            Quote: Cetegg
            You can, but it all ends either with "stars" from non-tolerant local residents, or problems with the authorities

            Quote: Cetegg
            PS We won’t spoil us!

            Honestly, our countrymen were pleased. Can we offer all possible assistance to the residents of Cologne? what
            Nearly fifty refugees were brought to the Murmansk region from Scandinavia. Those accustomed to impunity, tried to behave as in Norway. Hiding behind an ignorance of the language, do not pay in stores. Catch groups of single girls ...

            Well, Europe we are, Europe. Only “Europe frostbite”. The refugees were not beaten, they immediately began to put them in place in Russia.

            Those who were fortunate enough not to be meat in the evening were driven into the private sector and started combing it.

            On the one hand, angry citizens, on the other, the cops who, although they shout about the unacceptability of mob law, beat their boots stealthily and painfully.

            Hiding in the yards also did not work. There, the evil Russischan Shavken for egg-clap-clack, and the tenants are not happy, they meet greedy ...

            The result - 18 for hospitals, 33 are in a special detention center and really want to go home, and ask them to be deported to Europe.
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        3. +17
          3 March 2016 07: 43
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Cetegg
          ) Today they started to "buzz" in Kandalaksha, so the riot police immediately found drugs there))

          I have seen enough news from Europe where they download the rights and decided that this is also possible in Russia.

          Of course you can.
          Our tolerasts are no worse than the western ones.
          There are still clouded hints that the drugs allegedly planted.
          Is the author sure that they planted it? I have no such confidence.
          1. +1
            3 March 2016 13: 21
            I believe that there could be drugs that were not planted there))
        4. -1
          5 March 2016 05: 46
          ..normal - this is when refugees sell old Kalash and return to their native land to fight for their happy lives .. Here they are ... not needed ..
      2. +8
        3 March 2016 07: 08
        Well, if so! And then all over the country a mess, half of the crimes for foreigners, we will wait for lawlessness as in the Euro-immoral union.
      3. +3
        3 March 2016 07: 26
        I live in Zaozersk, from time to time I cross the checkpoint in Borisoglebsk. There are practically no "refugees" at the border. Although the norgi got ahead of themselves by building several residential terminals for this category of people (minuscule). In Kirkenesse, the influx of "chocolates" is not noticeable, and further on the Norgs have restricted areas. Only Russians with a Schengen visa can stay there. So the journalists are trying to suck their finger again!
        1. +2
          3 March 2016 08: 23
          I wonder how they cross the border guards in Titovka?
          1. 0
            3 March 2016 10: 16
            Quote: kote119
            I wonder how they cross the border guards in Titovka?

            Kandalaksha is generally on the other side of Titovka. 500 km distance
            1. 0
              3 March 2016 11: 08
              I know where Kandalaksha, and where Titovka, I mean that to get to the Norwegian border through Murmansk you must cross Titovka, and then to Nickel and then to the norgs.
        2. +1
          3 March 2016 10: 08
          I confirm!
      4. +2
        3 March 2016 07: 40
        The language of "dry numbers" is the most comprehensible.
      5. +8
        3 March 2016 07: 44
        Yes, I also think that there will be no ceremony. The problem is not complicated. First, all who are on a plausible pretext must be registered and then handed over to the authorities of those countries from which they fled. Let them do it themselves and send them even to Finland at least to their home. NU and all sorts of riots to suppress with maximum rigidity. This will immediately reduce those wishing to travel through the Russian Federation to Europe
        1. +1
          3 March 2016 13: 22
          yeah to their embassy, ​​those countries ...
          1. +4
            3 March 2016 18: 01
            Quote: Scout
            yeah to their embassy, ​​those countries ...

            Damn, chic way out! hi As no one had guessed before ... Drive illegal immigrants into the territory of their native embassy. Let them even stack them there. Well, and at the expense of your state, under the escort of your diplomats, home, to palm trees and coconuts.
      6. +7
        3 March 2016 09: 16
        I live on the border near Ukraine, and we have these gentlemen X known that they are brothers without a fall. Initially, refugees (not poor, I must say) get to the territory of Ukraine, and after that the local Jews cross the holey border further to Moscow. For the way from the border to the Capital with 5-7 people take 2 thousand dollars.
      7. +11
        3 March 2016 09: 48
        Quote: Cetegg
        I live in Murmansk, I often wander to the region, so I am aware of the general news) there were problems with refugees once in Polyarnye Zory, very quickly they were reassured there) Today they started to "buzz" in Kandalaksha, so riot police immediately found drugs there)) PS We will not spoil you!))


        Fuck them brought to Russia ... They went to Europe, well, and would have spanked by us, no. hello you wrapped up to stay ...
        Well, one thing pleases that in Kandalaksha, although it is cold, the people are friendly. I remember how they reminded the "Tozhrossians" lawless people who was the boss!
        Well done, keep it up!
        The whole country was looking at you then.
        Not like Stavropol, Kuban and Rostov regions, where for the slightest reminder of the culture of behavior to guests, the authorities spread rot on the Slavic people by applying Article 282 everywhere. And the comrades who "ara, I am a cleyanus mother" unbelted themselves with impunity, raping and killing left and right. There are a lot of examples: for example, the brutal murder in the Mineralovodsk hospital by a crowd of Dashnak bandits, or the Arzamas murder of clients by barbecuers and other lawlessness that continues with the connivance, which means with the tacit encouragement of the authorities
        1. 0
          3 March 2016 13: 23
          and the prosecutor’s office stated7
      8. +4
        3 March 2016 10: 18
        Comrade Do not think that this is all decided, the geyropa is looking for a way to share her troubles with us and she will do it. For example = send back all who came to them through Russia or say that this million came through Russia!
      9. +1
        3 March 2016 14: 25
        ok if so
      10. +3
        3 March 2016 14: 31
        I don’t understand something or is there no visa control at all? How did these shoe polish come to the territory of the Russian Federation?
      11. 0
        3 March 2016 14: 40
        From the hoses they need ... And show on RushTudey ... Next time they will not climb through Russia ...
      12. 0
        3 March 2016 15: 30
        the funny thing is, many people try to speak Russian, "eat savsem nechavo" :)
      13. +2
        3 March 2016 19: 54
        Quote: Cetegg
        I live in Murmansk, I often wander to the region, so I am aware of the general news) there were problems with refugees once in Polyarnye Zory, very quickly they were reassured there) Today they started to "buzz" in Kandalaksha, so riot police immediately found drugs there)) PS We will not spoil you!))


        What could be worse, a Negro in Kandalaksha in winter without money and things; almost the same as white from the north in Africa, in the Sahara desert, surrounded by silent Bedouins. Horror.

        PS can let the snow clean.
      14. aba
        +2
        3 March 2016 22: 16
        . We will not spoil you!))

        It still seems to me that the article is not about that. And that we must urgently take on the "carriers".
        Migrants can scratch not only their backs, but their turnips. But this does not stop the flow of both migrants and those who want to warm their hands on migrants. And this is expensive for everyone except the "carriers" themselves.
      15. 0
        4 March 2016 13: 01
        The question in the article is essentially: How did the blacks end up there? When, while they have not yet bred, they will be expelled from where they came from?
        While it still costs a little money, but you need to feed and support them, and from which shisha? A third of the population themselves are below the poverty line. The riot police cannot call them to order forever. The issue must be resolved at our entrance border, not at the Finnish one! There is enough of its Central Asia, and then there are blacks!
        So, it’s not a matter of "not getting overwhelmed", nor is it a matter of drugs that the riot police throws in, or maybe it doesn’t. what else can blacks earn for food?
      16. -1
        4 March 2016 18: 49
        That's right, I don’t like walking to .... Norway))) In addition, they call us a totalitarian state, let them be silent, otherwise we will shoot !!!
    2. +20
      3 March 2016 06: 08
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      border "on lock" and that's all, what's the problem then? do we owe someone? are we the European Union? no! that's it, the conversation is over ... the buoy is there! Bon Voyage...

      100% like that. They were invited to the European Union by Fr Merkel. So let her attend to them.
  2. +8
    3 March 2016 06: 06
    What Finns are not tolerant, ay-yai-yay! But what about mom Merkel, let her take her kids!
  3. +31
    3 March 2016 06: 06
    And why are these Papuans even allowed to come to us. They want to go to Europe, let them cut, even they need to be given a bus. I don’t know how to figure it here. I saw a negro in our city, I don’t know how I survived 45 minus in the winter, but I rolled a carriage with a child, and our Russian girl walked alongside. Parey normal like enough, what the women need request
    1. +6
      3 March 2016 06: 15
      So this is women, you go understand them.
      They want to go to Europe, let them go ...
      Apparently not everyone wants
    2. +3
      3 March 2016 06: 18
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And why are these Papuans even allowed to come to us. They want to go to Europe, let them cut, even they need to be given a bus. I don’t know how to figure it here. I saw a negro in our city, I don’t know how I survived 45 minus in the winter, but I rolled a carriage with a child, and our Russian girl walked alongside. Parey normal like enough, what the women need request


      Alexander, I saw a Negro with our Russian girl in one of the clinics in Novosibirsk, at the door by a physician. He waited for his girlfriend until she came out. It is also not clear how I got accustomed in Novosibirsk, I easily passed the first winter, and the second won me a cold and a finger right through the glove and froze a little. But he was dressed like a snowman, although it is already March and an average of -3 on the street
      1. +5
        3 March 2016 06: 33
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        It’s also not clear how settled down in Novosib,

        However, they are tenacious, but they are bad. Look at the photo for the article without hats, file your hands until meningitis.
        1. +5
          3 March 2016 12: 13
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          However, they are tenacious, but they are bad. Look at the photo for the article without hats, file your hands until meningitis.

          So for meningitis, brains need to have .. winked
          But they have no brains - so there’s nothing to become inflamed. lol
    3. +19
      3 March 2016 06: 42
      There would be normal guys, and not puzzled by a beer at their leisure, such a b ... it was hardly possible. No wonder it is said that the moral state of the nation is under the hem of a woman. And then how are girls brought up? If they are inspired by the thought almost from birth that they do not have to work, appearance is everything. First, fashion models, and then lower and lower ... to the swamp level. And the young men are no better ... but someone = at least the army brings to life, not everyone is sorry.
      1. +10
        3 March 2016 08: 23
        Quote: Evgeniy667b
        There would be normal guys, and not puzzled by a beer at their leisure, such a b ... it was hardly possible.

        In Soviet times, when no one complained about guys in the USSR, there were interracial marriages, too, especially after 1980, when the Olympics took place) It's not about the Russian guys who usually knock at the sight of interracial couples, but the girls themselves; )
        1. +3
          3 March 2016 12: 02
          From the "Armenian" radio: "What is left in Moscow after the festival"? Answer: "Children of different nations." 35 years later, things got worse.
      2. -8
        3 March 2016 13: 25
        according to the demographic situation, there are more women in Russia than men and those through the same drunks and loafers.
    4. 0
      3 March 2016 12: 13
      Romance is not enough ....... although it is rather exotic laughing
    5. +1
      3 March 2016 17: 32
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      And why are these Papuans even allowed to come to us. They want to go to Europe, let them cut, even they need to be given a bus. I don’t know how to figure it here. I saw a negro in our city, I don’t know how I survived 45 minus in the winter, but I rolled a carriage with a child, and our Russian girl walked alongside. Parey normal like enough, what the women need request


      I'll tell you what women DO NOT need. They do not need the notorious so-called. "alpha males" who, firstly, know how to call women only "women", and secondly, without knowing a person, they write him down to the second or third grade only by skin color!
      The Russian people have always been great in that they did not suffer from either racism or nationalism. Such as you and those who put the pluses for you are a shame for Russia.
  4. +5
    3 March 2016 06: 08
    Do we have a hole on the border? No karatsups on them ...
    Refugee Igrek sets off on a journey through the largest country in the world with puppy delight

    Well, where are our power structures? It's not every post you need to put a policeman.
    1. iov
      +2
      3 March 2016 08: 47
      They legally travel (fly) in transit, as I suppose ... So the modern karatsups have not yet been translated !! ✌
  5. +14
    3 March 2016 06: 09
    Why let it in? Do we have a visa-free regime with Africa and BV?
  6. +10
    3 March 2016 06: 10
    Locally - exit. Against the general background, it’s not an option at all,


    I agree with the author ...

    it means that we need to work in advance and break the link with Mr. X in the chain of intermediaries, providing him with a free single camera with a view of the Magadan open spaces.
    Further, knowing the points where the columns of blacks and Arabs are formed, introduce their people into the middlemen and redirect this undesirable category of lawbreakers to those countries that cause us problems ... it will cost much less.
    There is another option to tighten the nuts all the way to the entry point to RUSSIA, but for this you need to have very good agents there.
  7. +16
    3 March 2016 06: 13
    "Refugees", no freebies, bread and shelter should earn or pay from their savings by the sweat of their brows. If their hands are busy with work, then there will be no bad thoughts in their heads. A mess in Europe from idleness. Who does not work shall not eat.
  8. +9
    3 March 2016 06: 14
    We have enough of our migrants from the former fraternal republics.
  9. +15
    3 March 2016 06: 15
    Poor Kandalaksha ... They always have a problem with "these". Inadequate "foreigners". Either Chechens who raped their wives and daughters, now refugees. I agree - what's the problem? We don't need them, of course. His swarthy enough, besides. Deny transit. If Norway, Finland and Germany want to accept them, let them accept them. This should not concern us, we did not create the problem of this migration. Drive them with a filthy broom and disperse such rallies. Stop everything at the root, here they are not tolerant of Europe. We, after all, are not chmyrs and sixes of Washington, we must toughly protect our citizens. Otherwise, we will have the same Cologne.
    1. +4
      3 March 2016 06: 48
      So earlier in Kondopoga, it seems, the problem with the Chechens
    2. +4
      3 March 2016 06: 57
      You don’t confuse Dmitry Kondopogu with Kondolaksha (these are even different areas)
      1. +10
        3 March 2016 07: 02
        Quote: zadorin1974
        You don’t confuse Dmitry Kondopogu with Kondolaksha (these are even different areas)

        Americans can confuse Austria with Australia, but we can not? Give freedom from education. Glory to the exam fellow
        1. +11
          3 March 2016 08: 44
          And that, a good slogan turned out - "Glory to the exam!" "Glory to morons!"
        2. 0
          4 March 2016 09: 36
          Sasha, hi! and as always you are an ulcer!
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Americans can confuse Austria with Australia, but we can not? Give freedom from education. Glory to the exam
          good
          and here it is vaaasche kakava !:

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Give freedom from educationGlory to the exam

          drinks
      2. 0
        3 March 2016 10: 03
        Quote: zadorin1974
        You don’t confuse Dmitry Kondopogu with Kondolaksha (these are even different areas)

        From hell! And I, in my opinion, confused Kandalaksha with Kondopoga ... I ask sorry in advance ...
    3. 0
      3 March 2016 07: 07
      Since when did Chechens become foreigners?
      1. +3
        3 March 2016 08: 09
        Quote: Klos
        Since when did Chechens become foreigners?

        Have they ever been Russian?
        Wait, they will say their word.
        1. 0
          3 March 2016 12: 22
          And who claims this? In your opinion, only Russian Russians?
  10. +2
    3 March 2016 06: 24
    "Drang" is not necessary, further in the text.
    1. -1
      3 March 2016 07: 35
      Quote: Alexander_
      "Drang" is not necessary, further in the text.

      then, "nah" is not necessary! ... and - down with the text ...
  11. +7
    3 March 2016 06: 27
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    Why let it in? Do we have a visa-free regime with Africa and BV?

    I also wonder how these refugees were able to get right up to Murmansk.
    1. +1
      3 March 2016 08: 27
      Quote: Nikolay71
      I’m also wondering how these refugees managed to get to Murmansk.
      Mr. X cares.
      The tourist route, for example, is like this.
      Easily.
  12. +7
    3 March 2016 06: 31
    They were transported in trucks ..? Or a ticket to Kandalaksha was ... a question to the "carriers" ..
    1. +7
      3 March 2016 07: 56
      I’m also in confusion - how did they even get to our territory !? Nonsense. Well, since you’ve got it - you need to use them for their intended purpose - on plantations and in construction. laughing
  13. +15
    3 March 2016 06: 35
    Free labor rushes straight into the hands, and our government does not know how to dispose of it.
    Dear guests have neither visas nor documents. No one will be enough.
    Do we have enough uranium not excavated, roads not built in the Far North, gold not washed in Kolyma?
    Joseph Vissarionovich reproachfully looks at careless owners.
    1. +6
      3 March 2016 07: 39
      Quote: Onotolle
      Free labor rushes straight into the hands, and our government does not know how to dispose of it.

      These "chocolates" are not labor, but hungry, insatiable throats (and each has three) ... They cannot work, they cannot even dig, they cannot dig ... Nothing they can! Like Turkmens or Tajiks - janitors, walking with a broom ... the snow with a shovel is already sunk, as for a Chechen ...
      There are a dime a dozen of your workers like this ...
      1. +3
        3 March 2016 07: 55
        If life and freedom are at stake, they will work like electric brooms!
      2. +6
        3 March 2016 08: 49
        Oh, my friend. I didn’t mention Stalin for nothing.
        If we bow to our dear guests from Africa with our earthly foreheads, yes, "What will you please?" ask, then of course, they do not know how to work and gobble up in three throats.
        And if you adopt the best practices of American fellow planters, then such an enterprise can be very cost-effective.
        It’s a pity that only the cotton beyond the Arctic Circle does not grow.
        Well, this thing is fixable.
        1. +3
          3 March 2016 10: 59
          We don’t have cotton, but to hell with snow. You can clean it for 9 months.
        2. 0
          3 March 2016 13: 29
          let the peoples of the north deer count
        3. 0
          4 March 2016 09: 39
          but cloudberries and lingonberries are growing, and the reindeer moss now has grown a lot, so they won’t die of hunger! Yes
      3. 0
        4 March 2016 09: 38
        you know, but:
        "Bitie determines consciousness" has not yet been canceled!
    2. +1
      3 March 2016 11: 55
      ... we have our own people without work, but here it is free, headless, and even with requests and claims ... do we need it? Iosif Vissarionovich, first of all, thought and worried about HIS OWN, and the Papuans for "later," let Frau provide them with work, benefits and other attributes of European life ...
    3. -1
      3 March 2016 19: 16
      they have documents and transit visas, some have tourist, what’s the problem: they entered the RF LEGALLY ....
  14. +8
    3 March 2016 06: 39
    The guys have enough money to pay for Mr. X's services. Why is the city obliged to provide them with free housing and food? It's time to take over the word tolerance. There is no such thing in Russian.
  15. +11
    3 March 2016 06: 42
    To drive these dwellers who came from Arabia, Africa and the Middle East with the help of crowbars and MSL. They put Europe on the ears, we still didn’t have enough noise here. There are enough idiots. Correctly OMON conducts outreach, just something like that gently. You need to be more stable. And thanks to the men.
    1. +3
      3 March 2016 10: 40
      Quote: Pitot
      Correctly OMON conducts outreach, just something like that gently. You need to be more stable.

      Even riot policemen can recapture someone who is not particularly dangerous for themselves. And now we recall the events of a year and a half ago. That is exactly how Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians should act. If the laws in our country do not work, then you can save the nation this way.
    2. 0
      4 March 2016 09: 41
      Quote: Pitot
      Correctly OMON conducts outreach, just something like that gently.

      easier to understand! Well, for example, a berets in the kidneys, very intelligible! good
  16. +6
    3 March 2016 06: 46
    All "friends from the East" must, according to article 322 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, be involved in forced labor at the "Vostochny" cosmodrome for a period of up to 2 years, and there on their own, by building another branch on the BAM.
    1. +8
      3 March 2016 06: 53
      Well, you can build another branch from Murmansk to Yakutsk, before it was in the plans, who did not live to see the end of the construction, well, it’s their own fault, it was not the children who knew where the tea was going.
  17. +5
    3 March 2016 06: 54
    There is one question for law enforcement: How did these individuals cross the widest country on the globe? This is not 100 or 500 km.
    1. +11
      3 March 2016 07: 23
      Moreover, as Stalin said, "every mistake has a surname." The Ministry of Internal Affairs, Customs, FMS - these are just three people who cannot put things in order in their departments. You can’t, your deputy can. The deputy cannot. can the next one. So until the mess ends, and not for a promotion if he could not, but at best with a wolf ticket. Historical examples show very positive effects of such actions.
      1. +3
        3 March 2016 12: 13
        The "guarantor" said: "Now it is not 37th. We are not giving up our own"! I wonder who is your own and for whom? Therefore, this mess does not end. Because the "guarantor" said.
      2. 0
        3 March 2016 19: 17
        they have documents and transit visas, some have tourist, what’s the problem: they entered the RF LEGALLY ....
    2. 0
      3 March 2016 13: 31
      vast expanses of poorly populated, they are on foot or in a roundabout way, spent the night in abandoned villages
  18. +4
    3 March 2016 07: 03
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    Why let it in? Do we have a visa-free regime with Africa and BV?


    in-in. otherwise they will like to run to Europe through us. It is significant for them to arrange their return to their homeland by the northern sea route in rubber boats and not to give them an icebreaker, but to give crowbars and pickaxes. I think the next refugees will not be on our territory.
  19. +5
    3 March 2016 07: 04
    And we have already canceled passport control at the border? Or is money doing its job again?
    1. +1
      3 March 2016 12: 15
      Of course, money. Not the tolerance of officials?
  20. +17
    3 March 2016 07: 09
    A couple of months ago, when in VO they laughed at the stupid Europe, with its tolerance, I wrote that you shouldn’t laugh at Europeans that much.
    He expressed fears that they too (refugees from BV) would lock themselves up to us. And so it happened. And this is just the BEGINNING!
    Let's see what happens next. It cannot be ruled out that soon all sorts of commissions from the UN, EU, human rights, etc. will be connected. It is possible that they may be fed with promises to lift partially sanctions, or at least mitigate. They can promise and leave some money, and there are many other options. But they would just have sheltered a part (large) of migrants in their home country, REMOVED A PART OF CARES FROM THE OLD EUROPE.
    Do not rush to minus, the last time minuses were thrown, but I was right.
    1. +8
      3 March 2016 07: 53
      Do not equal the mentality. In the same Europe, many shares FOR the presence of refugees - a complete lack of self-preservation instinct. In Russia, such things will not work, because they are ALIEN and if the business comes, the people will ask them in full.
      1. +1
        3 March 2016 10: 40
        Quote: Baikal
        In Russia, such things will not work, because they are ALIEN and if the business comes, the people will ask them in full.

        It will pass, it’s already passed, when in exchange for maintaining the base in Tajikistan, half of Tajikistan in the accelerated form filled out documents at the FMS, someone asked someone? A precedent has been created, so for money, as they once agreed to accept nuclear waste from Europe for 20 billion, refugees will give a ride
  21. +13
    3 March 2016 07: 14
    The chief of border services on the carpet in the elbow-elbow ... I cross like a law-abiding
    border with a cloud of formalities and difficulties, and a la "refugee" does not have such problems. What to rassusolate-grab in packs and a cattle truck to the border from where you come from. , think about Russian women. In Germany, "refugees" directly told us there are not enough women. Is there a house of tolerance ?!
  22. +11
    3 March 2016 07: 17
    Here, border guards and customs are apparently greased. For otherwise you can’t do it.
    But as usual, this "suddenly" will be revealed only after the massacre,
    when black tries to swing right.
    And the Europeans will also tell them that they are the same people as everyone else.
    And they are simply obliged to give this and that and more.
    No, to settle in hangars, with stoves stoves.
    If anyone wants to go down, transport them to the border in greenhouses.
    1. +1
      3 March 2016 19: 21
      "There are apparently greased and border guards and customs. For otherwise this will not be done."
      Unfortunately, you can’t swear, so in BIG LETTERS:
      CUSTOMS !! DOES NOT HAVE !! RELATIONS!! TO PEOPLE !! CUSTOMS CONTROLS THE MOVEMENT OF GOODS !!
      People are controlled by border guards ...
  23. bad
    +4
    3 March 2016 07: 35
    Quote: Tatiana
    No matter how many times you say that the Russian border should be "locked", everything is useless!
    The fact that the structures of the United States and Western Europe will tie the Russian Federation into the "refugee" stream of the so-called. "economic" (parasitically social) migrants have been spoken for a long time - even when the so-called. "labor" migrants from Central Asia have filled the central cities of Russia in recent years and have not only distorted the Russian labor market, but also increased crime and the burden on the social sphere. Even then, it was said that the statistics of the FMS of Russia did not correspond to reality.
    Therefore, we must assume that the situation with the "refugees" in the Murmansk region is much worse than the media informs about them.
    "Refugees" will NOT work anywhere in their places of residence! This conclusion can be drawn by analogy with the results of labor registration in the Russian Federation of the so-called. foreign "labor" migrants - only about 15% of the arrivals are registered in the Russian Federation.
    .. well, what about the fact that they ("refugees") won't work for us, then they will "suck" .. or sit, and in prison they will not only suck .. and already without quotes and as an adult .. for us it they are not there .. there is no merkel .. but there are riot police and other delights of the intolerant RUSSIAN mentality .. laughing
    1. +3
      3 March 2016 11: 08
      Quote: bad
      but there are riot police and other delights of intolerant RUSSIAN mentality ..

      The "intolerance of the Russian mentality" applies only to Russians. Have you noticed? Therefore, he (the mentality) has already become "RUSSIAN" and not RUSSIAN.
  24. Riv
    +4
    3 March 2016 07: 51
    With all due respect to Bruce Willis: he will not cope. Need a minimum of Chuck Norris. Well, or a regiment of Russian landing, armed with sapper blades and a vodka car.
    What? Stroybat? These will do the trick too. Shovels can not be issued, but vodka will need two cars per company.
  25. +4
    3 March 2016 07: 58
    Drive to the mine. I handed over the charcoal plan - fed. Money for the fine and the return trip accumulated - let's go. It is possible along the Golden Ring of Russia. If you have accumulated too much.
  26. +5
    3 March 2016 08: 00
    and, what prevents them from being expelled for violating the visa regime, it is possible without drugs, as well as prohibiting the issuance of visas to students and other persons from certain countries where the main stream of refugees comes from, it goes without saying that this Mr. "X" is not so difficult to trace, at least passing through the territory of Russia.
  27. +7
    3 March 2016 08: 33
    There is no need to rely on the Russian mentality. Soon our kondy "human rights defenders" will join and with foam at the mouth will prove to US that they are all (refugees) poor and unhappy and WE, in the strength of our
    ntality, we’ll have to feel sorry for them and create comfortable (in their own terms) conditions for them.
    In my opinion, Russian human rights activists have already begun to stir up relations with refugees on the border of Macedonia.
    So what are we waiting for? After all, let Nashensky human rights activists (not everyone of course) complain about violations of the rights of strangers or such as Pusi Wright.
    But then about violations of the rights of ordinary citizens, the modest so prefer to remain silent.
  28. +8
    3 March 2016 08: 51
    Many of them speak Russian quite normally, all with documents and permits of the Russian Federation are not refugees.
    Those who provided their transfer to Finland left after border closure.
    Force Majeure, however.
    Now it’s cold, hungry and hard to live in cramped housing conditions. No sympathy or desire to help solve their problems!
    I am not sorry for these freeloaders.
  29. +4
    3 March 2016 08: 56
    ... "Human rights defender from Kandalaksha" ...
    Does this phrase seem strange to me alone?
  30. +3
    3 March 2016 08: 58
    Refugee flows can be "weapons" if they are skillfully directed. Turkey takes advantage of this, striving to get into the EU. Or at least earn a few billion euros from it.
  31. +5
    3 March 2016 09: 01
    sweep all the "oops" with an iron broom. then they will not slaughter children, rape girls, sell spice, including in schools. there will be no maniacs in numbers. to accept people with education and profession according to quotas, after a medical and psychiatric examination, and to stop the illegal penetration of migrants (which should be worried about the elected officials of the authorities and the people with their adequate anti-crisis salaries, wiping mo-ozols, and eternally hungry eyes).
  32. +4
    3 March 2016 09: 04
    It’s no secret that refugees enter with money. So you need to take a cash deposit at the entrance to the country in the amount of the cost of deportation from the country. The deposit is refunded upon departure from the territory of Russia. Tough, but necessary.
    Pys.pys .: yes, and take a deposit from all entering. Be it Alibaba from Afghanistan or Barack Obama from the USA.
  33. +11
    3 March 2016 09: 21
    Angry you laughing It is necessary to build camps for refugees and not gloating.
    Do we have few abandoned villages in the tundra?
    There is money to go home, dosvidos,
    no to refugee camp, earn money
    on the way home, collecting scrap metal.
    This good (metal, from Soviet times) in the tundra is full.
    And there were places to choose so as to be guaranteed not to reach on foot.
    As soon as the first ones return from there, the rest will not want to go,
    Rumors filled the earth.
    And let them store scrap metal on the banks of the rivers, then you can take them out with steamers.
    And to monitor the rate of production, I’ve worked out a ticket,
    goodbye, go pick coconuts home,
    No live with us further, you will be a black reindeer.
    1. +4
      3 March 2016 11: 53
      tundra:
      Dreams Dreams....
      Dreaming is not bad! But only our opinion of what should be done with such strangers interests us only on this site. Only! The power of those holding our opinion is ABSOLUTELY not interesting.
    2. 0
      3 March 2016 13: 33
      Doesn't this scrap collection cost too much?
      1. 0
        3 March 2016 19: 24
        200gr of bread per day on the nose is fine ...
    3. 0
      3 March 2016 13: 35
      evil you, that’s how good Europeans think of us
      1. 0
        6 March 2016 05: 18
        And do not go to our kindergarten, charm ..... (
  34. +3
    3 March 2016 09: 25
    Bad news. I did not expect that this is possible with us. You can scare them with riot police and hash, only as long as they are few.
    Well, geyrope, that way, made a mess. As in the fairy tale "Fedorino grief". And now the pot is boiling and boiling.
    1. +3
      3 March 2016 09: 41
      You just need to collect this shobla and bring it to the border with Finland, drop them there, and let them storm the border. They won’t shoot! it's a geyropa!
    2. Riv
      0
      3 March 2016 11: 13
      Maybe let Kadyrov down on them? May it benefit.
  35. +1
    3 March 2016 09: 40
    Why should this comrade X not lose these new European Europeans along the path of immense Russia !? Marshes and forests in Russia are everywhere!
  36. +1
    3 March 2016 09: 43
    Why should the country of Russia or Greece become a scapegoat? The principle of the situation is simple. These countries admit migrants to themselves, but they are not allowed into the EU. Here is the dam.
    Solution: a boat with a motor is being built for the money of migrants. We put the migrants in this boat and carry them across international waters to the territory of Germany, England, Finland. Then we point our finger in the direction of the coast and that's it! Now let the German coast guard show "humanity" not allowing anyone to drown or freeze.
    If you strain the whole EU, you can arrange such a ferry to the United States. And then we will look at "exceptional tolerant democracy."
  37. +10
    3 March 2016 09: 46
    The tolerance of the authorities just rolls over! In Moscow, they brazenly fly with Bandera flags, shout fascist Ukrainian guest workers! One elderly man was indignant, but beaten by Bandera and handed over to the police like a provocateur? Did the sympathetic Bandera police arrest the patriots? African and Asian migrants and the European scenario (and Maidan) can be repeated in Russia!
  38. +2
    3 March 2016 10: 00
    For example, I immediately had only one question- HOW DO THERE HAPPENED AT ALL ???
    This is the root cause of everything. AS?
  39. +7
    3 March 2016 10: 02
    If such transit flows have already been established, then the FMS, the border guards and the FSB are definitely in the "share". But no one will dare to arrange a real test there, because the system does not give up its own. And the fact that soon you won't be able to get by with OMON alone - that doesn't bother anyone. Moreover, soon they will not give appropriate orders to the riot police, again they will unfasten them where necessary. As a result, these citizens will be left alone with civilians. The result is known. The authorities are very fond of national groups and everything that is directed against the indigenous population.
  40. +5
    3 March 2016 10: 51
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    And why are these Papuans even allowed to come to us. They want to go to Europe, let them cut, even they need to be given a bus. I don’t know how to figure it here. I saw a negro in our city, I don’t know how I survived 45 minus in the winter, but I rolled a carriage with a child, and our Russian girl walked alongside. Parey normal like enough, what the women need request

    I am a supporter of the closure of the border for the Papuans, and so on and so forth. Under the whispers of democracy and freedom, they turned the country into a passage yard.
    With blacks the question is not so straightforward. RUSSIAN blacks have not met? Growing up from black children born after festivals, etc. I have met.
    I met another one .. A fellow student at the institute. Cuban. He studied in Soviet times at a pedagogical university, married a Russian and went to live in Cuba. My wife could not acclimatize there. They returned. He lived in Russia for so long ago that he became completely Russified by the behavior and habits of a Rusak. And by the way, he was a perfectly normal man.
    1. +1
      3 March 2016 11: 08
      In the case you have cited, we have an exception that only confirms the general rule - there are few of them. Not so long ago I saw a report about three similar Russians who served military service. In the courtyard of my house, two children from a mixed marriage grow up - a boy eight years old and a girl three years older - brother and sister.
  41. +3
    3 March 2016 10: 55
    As these niggers generally fall into our territory? It can be seen someone we have on this "warms his hands" angry Only expulsion from the country in 24 hours, that’s a radical solution to the problem, otherwise a whole lot of them will run up to them. Then it will be more difficult to deduce, as with cockroaches.
  42. +6
    3 March 2016 11: 03
    Quote: Cetegg
    I live in Murmansk, I often wander to the region, so I am aware of the general news) there were problems with refugees once in Polyarnye Zory, very quickly they were reassured there) Today they started to "buzz" in Kandalaksha, so riot police immediately found drugs there)) PS We will not spoil you!))

    It is not individual outbreaks that are dangerous, which, moreover, have been extinguished. The tendency to an increase in the scale of migration through Russia is dangerous, given the anti-popular, corrupt government existing in it. In the mid-90s, many thought that migration to Russia from Central Asia and the Caucasus was a trifle, useful "working hands", today they have a completely opposite opinion, but too late. In Moscow alone, there are many more than a million migrants, and these are no longer just workers, this is a serious force organized within the framework of the diaspora, capable of effectively influencing the authorities, which also warmed them up to protect them from the Russians, whom it is terribly afraid of.
  43. +2
    3 March 2016 11: 16
    Europa can easily accept 50 million freeloaders without prejudice to the subsistence level of the aborigines, politicians have raised the hubbub "Russians are to blame" there is hope by summer everything will calm down the sun will shine brighter fleas wake up everything will be fine
  44. +1
    3 March 2016 11: 52
    From Kandalaksha to Kondopoga 561 km, one step, practically.
  45. +3
    3 March 2016 12: 22
    Yes, unload everyone on a drifting ice floe and tow on further to the North Sea, you look there not far and to Norway, just round the Kola Peninsula!
  46. +2
    3 March 2016 12: 41
    Merkel’s brain is something like this

  47. +1
    3 March 2016 12: 51
    Macedonia never enters the EU, and clearly does not want to participate in the European circus
  48. -1
    3 March 2016 13: 30
    Why something, but we have enough experience in counteracting such phenomena. Of course not in the Murmansk region, but sharing experience is not a problem. I think that migrants will not be delighted with our realities (as compared to talking with them in Europe), so there will not be such a strong flow (the most frostbitten and (or) low-income ones will go).
  49. +2
    3 March 2016 14: 10
    Depart to Turkey. Let Erdogan love them.
  50. +1
    3 March 2016 15: 01
    The so-called "Emigrant Invasion" continues. How are they allowed to cross the border? How the igil has not yet shot them!
  51. 0
    3 March 2016 16: 07
    Let the geyropa take them away! Why are they needed here??? am
  52. +1
    3 March 2016 16: 12
    What X's and Z's are there? Does Russia have an open border? Who takes them across the border? And there is no need to keep them - the Finns don’t accept them, which means driving them back! In Russia, no one owes them anything, let them go and develop their country!
  53. +1
    3 March 2016 16: 36
    The flock has gathered and no laws are afraid of it! They don’t care if the detainee is right, or if the detainee is wrong, to get rid of someone else, and that’s all. We need to wean ourselves off this somehow! Surely there is someone who can figure out how to do this, so let them act and act energetically!
  54. 0
    3 March 2016 17: 19
    It’s hard to interrogate the nigers, the Mr. “X” to catch, plant (you can find drugs, for example) publicly.
    It will quickly decline.
    1. 0
      6 March 2016 06: 17
      Quote: behemot
      It’s hard to interrogate the nigers, the Mr. “X” to catch, plant (you can find drugs, for example) publicly.
      It will quickly decline.

      Do you think that the police, who are used to “finding” drugs, will not “find” them from “their own people”?
      And then you water your policemen - those you deserve!
      A secular state can only be built where there is a sufficiently civilized population!
  55. 0
    3 March 2016 17: 32
    We will be vigilant!
  56. 0
    3 March 2016 17: 47
    Yes, I apologize) I really confused Kandalaksha with Kondopoga)
    1. 0
      3 March 2016 19: 52
      Or maybe I didn’t mix it up too much?!
  57. 0
    3 March 2016 20: 42
    And it’s right that the riot police put them in their place.
    And from Peipsi shores
    To the ice Kolyma.
    All this is our land!
    It is necessary to nip their plans to make a fuss in the bud.
  58. +2
    3 March 2016 21: 33
    - Murmansk riot police - our respect... I am glad that not all the police authorities were struck down by tolerance...
  59. 0
    4 March 2016 09: 00
    YES, now the border is locked with holes, everyone is climbing in.
  60. 0
    4 March 2016 09: 08
    Pick and shovel and let them work
  61. 0
    4 March 2016 10: 34
    If they start using our territory like in Europe, then we can immediately use military weapons.
  62. 0
    4 March 2016 20: 44
    who told them that it would be good here?
    "I am not interfering in your discussion about Germany's refugee policy."
  63. 0
    5 March 2016 13: 22
    In general, of course, the irony of History.
    Previously, they fought to seize territories. And today you can simply disguise yourself as refugees
    means occupying a country!? It turns out like this.
    And you couldn’t stop them/not let them through?! Madhouse.
    Who among the so-called refugees? YOUNG MEN. 20-35 years old. The share of others is negligible.
    Moreover, most of them are packed with gadgets, etc., etc.
    And I agree with those who claim that this is a whole logistics operation with a distribution of roles in it. Like a strict American collar and leash for old Europe.
  64. +1
    5 March 2016 18: 13
    I don't see any Syrians there. Some kind of blacks. And it doesn't matter. Healthy, well-dressed men came to Russian soil to sit on the necks of Russian Ivan and Marya. We have enough of the rabble that have just arrived. And we don’t even pamper our own people, people don’t even get anything from our citizens! Will we feed you here? Heh. Well of course now!

    There is no need to indulge them under any circumstances. Let's relax once and that's it. Then the crowds will come to us and download our rights. The customs officers who let them through go to their home and take them away! And they feed.
  65. 0
    5 March 2016 19: 57
    Hmm... Notable trolling. Heat-loving boys to the Murmansk region... Maybe they should have gone to Norilsk? And then go home - let them tell you where to run bully
  66. 0
    5 March 2016 20: 37
    Quote: Razvedka_Boem
    And the people in Moscow... I looked at their faces... well, they were meat... I didn’t feel a core in them. And a sharp contrast when I saw Caucasians a couple of times. Internally collected, with an aura of confidence and calm.

    Maybe you're reading the wrong things? You have a dangerous misconception. Russians have a very broad soul, they are ready to forgive, to tolerate ignorance and savagery, to endure, to regret, to get into a situation for a very long time. During the Great Patriotic War, Germans who were dying of hunger were given milk. But not endlessly...

    There have already been examples when “meat,” as you put it, explained to those “confident cores” firmly and clearly, right up to the final outcome, let’s call it that way, how they need to behave.

    We look at these antics not as a manifestation of strength (this is simply funny), but as savagery, arrogance, stupid clowning, bad manners, mental and cultural underdevelopment, which cause not aggression, in the first place, but regret. A person in such a state is perceived by us as weak (mentally and mentally) and sick. Therefore, they do not touch him until the last moment.

    You, like many Eastern and Caucasian people, unfortunately confuse the long-suffering, forgiveness, forbearance, and philanthropy of Russians with weakness and indifference. This is a misconception fraught with unpleasant consequences.
  67. 0
    6 March 2016 06: 02
    Of course, all this will not work in wild and backward Russia - the mentality here is at the level of the Middle Ages.
    By and large, these migrants should be used for the benefit of the country - checked for AIDS and, if healthy, then given work and housing in the Moscow region, Siberia - you yourself want workers in your country and the economy to develop? Africans - they are not all bad - they can be adapted! Unlike Caucasians!
  68. 0
    6 March 2016 10: 31
    Why are Solovki empty?
    Are there not enough understaffed camps for “refugees”?)
    Actually, Merkel and I would advise reactivating a couple or three,
    type: Buchenwald, Auschwitz, Mauthausen, Dachau, etc.
    Crematoria may not be included.