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Turkey makes a rustle in NATO ...

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RIA News with reference to Western news agencies reports that the Turkish government has closed access to the NATO monitoring group, which was going to conduct a study on the traffic of refugees. We are talking about the NATO naval group, which was going to track migration flows moving through Turkey in the direction of the EU countries - primarily to Greece.


The Turkish authorities say that the command of the naval group must first arrive in Ankara, where there will be "coordination of that part of the Aegean Sea, in which it is planned to conduct monitoring."

The report says that the German Navy counter-jormal Jorg Klein (he is the commander of the group), from whom the Turkish government is waiting for official documents and petitions, must arrive in Ankara.

Turkey makes a rustle in NATO ...


However, the main scandal in the "brotherhood of NATO" is not even that. The fact is that the official Ankara declares about the prohibition of the landing of the helicopter of the German Minister of Defense Ursula Gertrude von der Lyayen on the Greek island of Lesbos. On the island there are now several thousand refugees from the Middle East. The Turkish authorities say that there can be no military equipment on Lesbos, since “it is a demilitarized zone”. On the demarche of the Turkish side reports the Greek TV channel Skai.

This is not the first such attack on Turkey by other NATO members. Earlier, Ankara has banned the flight of the aircraft with the Greek prime minister on board, if he makes refueling in Greek Rhodes. After that, the plane Tsipras, who was heading to Iran, was forced to make an air hook through Egypt.
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  1. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 2 March 2016 13: 13
    29
    Salt Turkey NATO. At the first danger. so as not to fit in for her. But the fagot war will begin, he has nowhere to go, his already very evil. Business has undermined and this is no longer measured in dollars, here the markets are lost.
    1. The black
      The black 2 March 2016 13: 14
      42
      Yes, apparently this donkey, amid fear of an impending northern animal named PISETS, is completely blowing away ... a rat, driven into a corner, started throwing itself at everyone.
      1. cniza
        cniza 2 March 2016 13: 16
        11
        Quote: Black
        Yes, apparently this donkey, amid fear of an impending northern animal named PISETS, is completely blowing away ... a rat, driven into a corner, started throwing itself at everyone.


        It is more like agony.
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 2 March 2016 13: 40
          17
          Quote: cniza
          It is more like agony.

          ... most of all resembles an attack of schizophrenia and a split personality in the spring ... he imagines himself to be the Turkish Sultan ... he has recently left the reels altogether:
          - shot down our SU-24
          - issued an ultimatum to the usa Kurds
          - blackmails the EU with refugees
          ... that is, quarreled with all the powers that be ... this is a diagnosis ... hi
          1. Vova Vartanov
            Vova Vartanov 2 March 2016 14: 32
            +5
            I think everything is greatly simplified in the matter of the behavior of the Turks ...
            It was simply necessary to bring down Ankara’s plane - for several years now they have been building a Sunni neo-Caliphate (semi-fictitious separation from Israel, support for ALL ,, brothers of the Muslim ,, revolutions, crushing of various Shiite movements in Turkey itself, an almost obvious confrontation with Egypt over Mursi ...);
            And in these far-reaching plans (definitely agreed with the United States and Israel), Russia bursts in — well, just an ELEPHANT IN A TABLE STORE ...
            The Turk could not stop anything (well, you know, the multibillion-dollar losses from losses in tourism, loss of gas preferences, cancellation of the atomic deal ...) As in the case of a large-scale military clash between Russia and Turkey, from the back of Russia's only ally in the region (I have in view of Armenia) the Turks of the Caspian region (Azerbaijan Republic) will hit and nothing will stop them either - neither the loss of the market nor the problems with the Turko-Asian migrants, well, that’s it.
            As a consequence of this, we Armenians will have to fight on two fronts. And all these are facts that everyone will have to reckon with!
            1. vlad_m
              vlad_m 2 March 2016 14: 44
              +4
              Azerbaijan is not. Stand on the sidelines. They will look. They will not climb into the swara. They have too many profits in Russia.
              1. ver_
                ver_ 2 March 2016 15: 33
                0
                .. However, Azerbaijanis, Turks and Turkmens-one hell ..
                1. The black
                  The black 2 March 2016 17: 14
                  +2
                  .. However, Azerbaijanis, Turks and Turkmens - hell alone.

                  Almost one ... Azerbaijanis are Shiites ... smile
              2. Vova Vartanov
                Vova Vartanov 2 March 2016 15: 51
                0
                They will get into a fight, as it were, as a separate conflict - the continuation of the Karabakh-Turkish war of the 90s.
              3. Vova Vartanov
                Vova Vartanov 2 March 2016 16: 27
                0
                I’m not sure, but most likely Hitler had, as you put it, profits in the Union, and Georgia and Ukraine in Russia ...
                1. Garris199
                  Garris199 2 March 2016 17: 05
                  +2
                  That is yes. Only now the Russian army is also a significant profit. Maybe Azerbaijan will fly if something happens. Saakashvili will confirm.
          2. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 2 March 2016 15: 04
            +1
            Quote: Inok10
            - blackmails the EU with refugees

            And the EU is considering where to get 3 billion for Turkey to keep refugees.

            EU - suckers?
          3. Sober
            Sober 2 March 2016 15: 08
            0
            Quote: Inok10
            ... that is, quarreled with all the powers that be ... this is a diagnosis ...

            And expects his BIG Enema.
        2. Armored optimist
          Armored optimist 2 March 2016 16: 35
          0
          I will develop my own post. Only today there were reports of:
          -"The Turkish authorities did not agree to let NATO ships into their territorial waters in the Aegean Sea. Ankara said that German Rear Admiral Jörg Klein must first come to Turkey and discuss with the authorities in which zone the squadron is going to be deployed."
          - and also banned the landing on its territory of a helicopter of the Minister of Defense of Germany.
          So the Sultan begs. Soon he may stop being "his"
        3. Lelek
          Lelek 2 March 2016 17: 55
          0
          Quote: cniza
          It is more like agony.


          Come on, what agony to demons? There is a big bargain between the overgrown Turkey and the suffocating European Union. The Turks received a grant of $ 10 billion (at the rate of $ 1000 for one migrant not allowed to go to Europe), and how much they miss and how many will be detained on their territory is up to their conscience (which the rulers of this country do not have at all). Now Erdogan is already declaring that this money is not enough, but it would be worth $ 30 billion (appetite). And it seems to me (IMHO) that Europe will bow its head, otherwise it will simply cease to be.
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      3. sever.56
        sever.56 2 March 2016 13: 23
        25
        Yes, not a fig of Geyropa will not do ... Once again, he will erase the savory Erdogan spit from his sleek, "tolerant" muzzle, and that's it.
        Erdogash has such a giant instrument of pressure on Europe as regulating the flow of migrants. It will be necessary for him, he and all his navies will be connected to their transportation straight from the coast of North Africa. Europe's only way out of this situation is a military coup in Turkey, or the physical elimination of the enraged dog Erdogan. Otherwise, he will "bend" Europe in a particularly perverted form endlessly.
      4. Mobius
        Mobius 2 March 2016 13: 59
        +3
        Quote: Black
        Yes, apparently this donkey, amid fear of an impending northern animal named PISETS, is completely blowing away ... a rat, driven into a corner, started throwing itself at everyone.


        At the same time, the long-standing thorn in the unresolved territorial disputes between the member states of the alliance makes itself felt. Here it "climbs" (demands "to resolve issues through Ankara), due to the fact that the United States, as the" driving force "of the organization, at one time in the desire to crush more "bayonets" for themselves, did not give a damn about the seemingly unshakable clause of the NATO Charter in terms of the absence of territorial claims to neighbors.

        The Greeks and Turks, as we know, have this problem ...
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 2 March 2016 13: 24
      +4
      They do not allow the Germans to refugees, poor thing.
      And why in such a distance shove right here at hand a new war begins:
    3. Finches
      Finches 2 March 2016 13: 30
      17
      Defense Minister Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen and Lesbos ...- sounds like that ...! laughing

      Come on Arjep! It remains to change the red flag of Turkey to the black flag of ISIS and proclaim yourself a prophet!
      1. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 2 March 2016 15: 21
        +6
        Quote: Finches
        Defense Minister Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen and Lesbos ...- sounds like that ...! laughing

        Come on Arjep! It remains to change the red flag of Turkey to the black flag of ISIS and proclaim yourself a prophet!


        Wait a minute, how all the girls-ministers of defense of the Baltos, Scandinavians and other Euromonsters will gather, how they will arrange a scandal for Erdogan with breaking dishes, and the despot will be scared! Marakuyu, that he has heartburn from all these European women’s ministers, that’s the main basmach who’s bullied, they’ll be in their harem, even if they’re busy! laughing
      2. Mobius
        Mobius 2 March 2016 15: 41
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        Defense Minister Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen and Lesbos ...- sounds like that ...!

        It sounds, it sounds ... Nothing supernatural, the usual professional interest of a frau-gynecologist ...
        War-war, and hands, then, miss your favorite thing repeat .
    4. Vend
      Vend 2 March 2016 13: 41
      0
      Quote: armored optimist
      Salt Turkey NATO. At the first danger. so as not to fit in for her. But the fagot war will begin, he has nowhere to go, his already very evil. Business has undermined and this is no longer measured in dollars, here the markets are lost.

      It’s not so easy for NATO to merge someone from its MEMBERS. Auger seems to be one for all and all for one. If merged, it turns out that NATO does not support its own. And this is not a healthy direction for NATO.
      1. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 2 March 2016 14: 00
        +1
        They will begin to confer and "transfer forces." Make a decision and finish the transfer by the end of the event. I don’t throw hats, but God forbid, it will be necessary to deal with the Turkish Armed Forces tough and lightning fast. And there are opportunities, even without nuclear weapons. Air defense, built on practically the same fighters, will disappear in a matter of hours.
    5. ZeF
      ZeF 2 March 2016 13: 56
      +8
      Nobody will merge Turkey; it is strategically located. But the erdagon can eat something wrong or comes off with a scarf in the bathroom.
      1. ver_
        ver_ 2 March 2016 15: 50
        +1
        ... Turkey is no longer a strategic partner - ... not a lot, just a little more and ... there will be some problems in the "backyard of the penguins and not only there, but the Indians will also dig their tomoghawks ...
    6. askort154
      askort154 2 March 2016 14: 03
      +1
      Bronoptimistov .... Solut Turkey NATO ....

      Never! For the United States, Turkey in NATO is a "sheepdog" in the most important region, at the junction of Europe and Asia. It is much easier for the United States to carry out another military coup, despite the fact that Erdogan has deployed his generals, they already see his unpredictability, and are more likely to submit to the NATO command. Turkish General Staff against war with Russia without NATO support. The only thing is that the United States can temporarily suspend Turkey's membership in NATO for a specified period, but not withdraw it from the membership.
    7. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 2 March 2016 14: 10
      0
      Quote: armored optimist
      Salt Turkey NATO. At the first danger. so as not to fit in for her. But the fagot war will begin, he has nowhere to go, his already very evil. Business has undermined and this is no longer measured in dollars, here the markets are lost.

      Erdagan is just that NATO, together with the United States, is wetting the asphalt on the asphalt, apparently Ankara made its choice, they realized that the United States and NATO allies want to deprive Erdagan of power, well, at worst, push him under Russia so that we roll him out, so he kicks someone he wants to go to slaughter, but he has no choice, like a sheep that was brought to the meat factory only as we all understand DEATH!
    8. Hort
      Hort 2 March 2016 14: 19
      0
      their just do not burn with the desire to fight. In the sense of the population. And at the top, especially no one supports Erdogan's fighting spirit
      1. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 2 March 2016 15: 58
        0
        They don’t burn with desire, an optical sight, probably someone wiped it.
    9. Giant thought
      Giant thought 2 March 2016 14: 39
      +1
      Turkey is now like an engine that has gone to smash.
    10. Blondy
      Blondy 2 March 2016 15: 28
      0
      He won’t start, if Russia fits in, then there will be many chances that Turkey will lose control of the straits, and the West cannot allow this, and, of course, they will find how to block oxygen in advance for Erdogan.
    11. gergi
      gergi 2 March 2016 16: 35
      +1
      No, they will not merge. They will yell, resent, threaten, but endure all the tricks of Erdogash. Without Turkey, their underbelly will remain naked. And the straits will depart, guess who? Tolerate, terpily, grunt.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 2 March 2016 16: 58
        0
        Turkey is a tough nut and it would be very good to try to crack it; apart from nuclear weapons, a Turk should be opposed by Russia as a matter of fact, there’s nothing there, so you hurried up very well due to the passage of the straits.
    12. Oleg Lavrov
      Oleg Lavrov 2 March 2016 18: 33
      0
      Well, this refugee business has come to an end! Poor GlavtUrakan-Erdogan, another vein of theft is being covered ... and who ?! NATO partners, laughter !!!
  2. Yugra
    Yugra 2 March 2016 13: 13
    12
    All ship-ships with migrants sail from Turkey. Erdogash will protect such a business in any way. In the thief, the hat burns with a blue flame, and the geyropa does not notice this ...
    1. dorz
      dorz 2 March 2016 13: 48
      +3
      Turkish government closes access to NATO monitoring group, which was going to conduct a study of refugee traffic

      Erdogan is simply blackmailing NATO and the EU, he has nothing to lose.
  3. Alexey Lesogor
    Alexey Lesogor 2 March 2016 13: 14
    +7
    Oh, until played ... soldier
  4. Wild_grey_wolf
    Wild_grey_wolf 2 March 2016 13: 14
    +7
    And this is an interesting twist. . .
  5. The black
    The black 2 March 2016 13: 20
    +9
    But the fagot war will begin, he has nowhere to go, his already very evil. Business has undermined and this is no longer measured in dollars, here the markets are lost
    ... He, of course, can start, but the question is how the Turkish army (general) will behave. There are two options: either he will fulfill the order or the Erdogan will crash ... and something tells me that when the Erdogan is drained by NATO, the second option is more real ...
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 2 March 2016 13: 24
      +2
      I agree that the army is very offended by the actions of Erdogan, he practically destroyed the entire generals and changed the constitution in his favor, so there is no way to wait for support from the army.
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    3. Luga
      Luga 2 March 2016 13: 39
      11
      Quote: Black
      ... He, of course, can start, but the question is how the Turkish army (general) will behave. There are two options: either he will fulfill the order or the Erdogan will crash ... and something tells me that the second option is more real ...


      I agree.

      The coup d'etat in Turkey is an excellent way out for everyone, maybe for Erdogan himself, unless, of course, under the conditions of this coup, he will be left with life and part of the stolen goods. Otherwise, he risks losing everything.

      I think this scenario is very, very likely. The new government will apologize to Russia, pay off the damage (not a lot of money) for the downed plane, proclaim the war to the terrorists, indulgences to the Kurds, "democratic reforms", peace with neighbors ... And they themselves will quietly continue Erdogan's line, Yu as it suits the mattress makers.

      "So that bad about the king
      the people did not chat in vain,
      act strictly according to the law,
      that is, act on the sly "
      (c) L. Filatov
    4. taram taramych
      taram taramych 2 March 2016 13: 44
      +1
      Well, if anyone throws a silk lace around Erdogan’s neck, it’s definitely not the military. Have you really forgotten that in search of agents of Gulen, the Turkish Defense Ministry, they emasculated and thinned out.
      1. Winnie76
        Winnie76 3 March 2016 09: 41
        0
        We can offer our qualified help. I think it’s not difficult to find a good specialist for Erdoganych.
    5. Palladin
      Palladin 2 March 2016 14: 45
      +1
      Something tells me that they have already begun to merge, the military has a tooth on him, he brushed them great wassat
  6. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 2 March 2016 13: 21
    10
    The main thing is not to stop Turkey from making mistakes! soldier
  7. pts-m
    pts-m 2 March 2016 13: 21
    +3
    This lad has unbelted, that's what the mugging with his best friend, the bloody confectioner brings. Apart from the “calibers”, nobody will calm him down.
  8. sl22277
    sl22277 2 March 2016 13: 23
    +3
    Turkey plays a key role in the Syrian conflict, and the Turks are not interested in the war ending, even with the huge influx of refugees. Turkey is supplying militants with weapons. The militants use Turkey as a place of gathering, treatment, and also for selling oil. Therefore, Erdogan arranges such "demarches", even with "partners" in the coalition.
  9. Hooks
    Hooks 2 March 2016 13: 24
    +2
    NATO was going to monitor on the initiative of Germany. It seems that the Turks sabotaged with the stripes, otherwise there would be nothing to reel the pipe house.
  10. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 2 March 2016 13: 25
    +4
    Something seems to me, the Yankees decided to give priority to the Turks, since the Germans, previously considered the EC economically locomotive, sign their own helplessness - either the Turks command, Europe endures silently, the Turks do not let the Germans into Greek land, and the Germans only chew snot. Do not merge Erdogad. He will get set on fire everything he reaches. He apparently will have to start the EU-Russia war. The USA needs chaos for which Europe will be responsible for its lives, and chaos needs a dictator, and there are no best erdogad
  11. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 2 March 2016 13: 31
    +2
    laughing - Write: radish is not a good person; a jump is a danger; split - betray.
    Now read it in normal, civil, language.
    - This bad man will betray us at the first danger.
    Excerpts and quotes from the movie "Gentlemen of Fortune"
  12. barclay
    barclay 2 March 2016 13: 33
    +5
    Well, what, Bobik breaks with a leash? It was necessary to educate Bobik!
  13. Lieutenant Izhe
    Lieutenant Izhe 2 March 2016 13: 37
    +3
    ah, yes RyjEP, oh yes .. son of a bitch! laughing
  14. atamankko
    atamankko 2 March 2016 13: 38
    +4
    Erdogasha, have you gone too far like Parash?
    1. Delink
      Delink 2 March 2016 13: 45
      +1
      Most likely they muddy the water together)))
  15. Alex von Dorn
    Alex von Dorn 2 March 2016 13: 43
    +6
    Erdogan will end badly, 100%
  16. donavi49
    donavi49 2 March 2016 13: 46
    +3
    And they also banned German Minister of Defense fly on греческий Lesbos island. Having motivated that - the island is a demilitarized zone and the Minister of Defense should not be there.

    Turkey did not let the German minister's helicopter to Lesbos
    Ankara also did not allow the helicopter of the German Minister to land on Lesbos.
    Ankara did not allow the helicopter of the head of the German Ministry of Defense Ursula von der Leyen to land at the airport of Mytilini on the Greek island of Lesbos, reports Skai TV channel.
  17. driver
    driver 2 March 2016 13: 47
    +4
    An interesting movie is planned, unless it is a pre-staged move.
  18. lukke
    lukke 2 March 2016 13: 48
    +3
    something tells me that Erdogan did not have much time left (specifically for him, and not for Turkey). The question will only be in what form: soft or as an edification to others like Gaddafi ...
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 2 March 2016 13: 48
    +1
    it seems to me that NATO will very soon throw the Turks out of the bloc as naughty kittens ...
    1. lukke
      lukke 2 March 2016 13: 59
      +1
      It seems to me that NATO will very soon throw the Turks out of the bloc like catched kittens.
      it is stupid and short-sighted (taking into account the fact that there are bases on the territory of Turkey, the Turks, in principle, are Russophobes, etc.) - it is easier to put your obedient tovarisch at the helm. If this is not realistic, then yes, in a difficult period Turkey will be abandoned in the best traditions of the North Atlantic Alliance solidarity ...
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 2 March 2016 14: 55
        0
        it's stupid and shortsighted


        Unless the Americans decided to merge the BV and concentrate their forces on the Far East.
  20. Dam
    Dam 2 March 2016 13: 51
    +2
    We will be like an old wise monkey sitting on the shore and waiting for the river to carry the corpse of its enemy past. And so I want to stump Perdogan.
  21. DimYang
    DimYang 2 March 2016 13: 53
    +3
    No one, for some reason, did not think, but to whom oil comes from Turkey. The main buyer of oil is Israel. (Trades by sea). And here, as they say, follow your hand; in NATO countries, active preparations are underway. opinions to excl. Turkey from NATO. The United States is silent, which means they have already decided everything for themselves, the Israeli lobby in the states is aware that Turkey will be given for slaughter, and Israel is all the more aware, they are accomplices. What did Turkish puppets get into their ears? Or do they think that they have cunning Jews forever? Well, after Turkey disappears from the political map, all ends are in the water.
  22. Taygerus
    Taygerus 2 March 2016 13: 56
    0
    Yes, NATA is not the same, even Perdogan began to point them out, either the old fool banged, or something was wrong with NATO laughing
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 March 2016 17: 04
      0
      No one will bang Erdogan - thanks to him, high-ranking guys in the USA and Europe are boarding grandmothers.
  23. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 2 March 2016 14: 08
    +2
    Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Something seems to me, the Yankees decided to give priority to the Turks, since the Germans, previously considered economically the locomotive of the EU, sign their own helplessness

    I agree with you.
    In general, Ankara's gesture is similar to a demonstration: they thereby show that since NATO does not provide explicit support, Turkey is also "taking pills" on it. A kind of quiet sabotage, "work by the rules." And what is he wrong, really? Turkey, a NATO member, is fighting alone against its internal and external enemies, everyone is pouring mud over it, and allies are silent! They say, well, to hell with you, but then in the Aegean Sea I am alone and in command!
    It’s interesting, but will the SSA ships set such requirements too?
  24. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 2 March 2016 14: 08
    0
    two rams Erdogan and Poroshenko, completely beaten off their heads, do not know what else to do
  25. VP
    VP 2 March 2016 14: 22
    +1
    In my opinion, Erdogan longs to run into the Nuland cookies ...
  26. zapas98
    zapas98 2 March 2016 14: 33
    +3
    little revenge on NATO associates for not unanimously supporting the downed SU-24 and not allowing it to continue in the same vein. Damage, if any, is manifested in everything.
  27. iouris
    iouris 2 March 2016 14: 38
    +2
    After the downing of the Su-24, Turkey, most likely, will not maintain territorial integrity, because there will be Kurdistan, which the United States and Syria are likely to recognize.
  28. Palladin
    Palladin 2 March 2016 14: 39
    +1
    I think in August we will see a picture when, after a failed tour season, his people will take him out on a pitchfork for public viewing. The finished politician! It’s my fault, not Senka’s hat.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 March 2016 17: 06
      0
      He presses all those in Turkey against him, and will continue to press and clean.
  29. dvg1959
    dvg1959 2 March 2016 14: 41
    +2
    The jackals in the flock are constantly bickering, but it still does not scatter.
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  31. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 2 March 2016 15: 28
    +2
    Considering that Turkey has contacted Saudi Arabia, which has directly declared that they have nuclear weapons and are ready to test them in the near future, then not only NATO, but also Israel will have a headache. And Iran, respectively. What such "gatherings of interests" can lead to, it is difficult to even guess.
  32. INF
    INF 2 March 2016 15: 48
    0
    100500 may be a donkey, but he donkey does what he wants, it must be understood the same, compared with the other sixes.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 2 March 2016 17: 12
      0
      Erdogan has his own plans - unrelated to anyone, he is already tearing the leash, and for one starts to bite the owner and most likely ISIS is his invention, and all the other sponsors.
  33. serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 2 March 2016 15: 50
    +2
    If the roof is on, call 01, if you need a roof, call 02, if the roof goes, call 03. NATO urgently call 03 !!! Although Edorgan will not allow !!!
  34. ML-334
    ML-334 2 March 2016 16: 58
    +1
    Of everything that Putin said, Erdogan made it clear that one must be beaten first, as in the yard.
  35. Vadim237
    Vadim237 2 March 2016 17: 15
    0
    Turkey bends NATO under itself.