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What caused the interests of the Syrian Kurds

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What caused the interests of the Syrian Kurds



February 10 Syrian Kurds opened their official representative office in Russia (in the city of Moscow). The event can be considered significant, since it marks a definite turn of the perspective of Russia towards the Kurdish issue as a whole, and also means ideological support for the Kurdish detachments in the war in Syria.

This event has two sides of the coin:

on the one hand, not a single person of the Russian side appeared at the opening ceremony (although representatives of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs were invited). The office is open in an unremarkable small office, in an industrial area.

on the other hand, the event is significant and is closely connected with Russian-Turkish relations. As you know, the relationship between the two countries deteriorated sharply after the downed SU-24. It is clear that the Turkish side initially strongly opposed not only the opening of the Kurdish office of Syrian Kurds in Moscow, but also generally opposed Russian support for Syrian Kurds. And Russia supports them, calling them the key successful force fighting against terrorism in the civil war in Syria. In addition, it was Moscow that insisted on the participation of the Kurds in the conference on the Syrian issue of Geneva-3. Party of Nations "in Turkey).

Not so long ago, Turkey dared to put an ultimatum to the United States: "either the Turks or the Kurds." According to the Turkish side, US support for Syrian Kurds has led to "rivers of blood." Of course, the Turkish state is far from being in the geopolitical position in order to make even more enemies with the help of such compromising requirements, having enough of its detractors. According to the director of the Center for the Study of the Middle East, Semen Arkadyevich Bagdasarov:

“Russia is inferior to the United States, as the Americans were the first to provide military-technical assistance to the Kurds and over the past month they transferred over 150 tons of cargo, and they also provide them aviation support. In addition, a representative of the US president visited Kobani, who promised to respect the interests of the Kurds in the "new Syria", that is, in Syria without President Bashar Assad. "

Returning to the topic of Kurdish representation in Moscow, I note that it belongs to Syrian Kurdistan (as the Kurds themselves call it - Rozhava, the so-called Western Kurdistan). The territory of Syrian Kurdistan is located on the Syrian-Turkish border (this is the reason for Turkey’s indignation at the Syrian Kurds), and under the protection of Kurdish troops - 900 km. It should be noted that the Kurds are far from a minority, this is the second largest ethnic group in the country (8% of the total composition, 2,5 million). The Kurds are the only persistent force in the struggle not only with ISIS, but also with the opposition.

A self-government has been created on the territory, an educational system for children (as far as possible during the period of hostilities), has its own newspaper, a militarized structure that defends both the lands under its control and the local population. Despite the fact that the Syrian authorities have imposed an embargo on the cantons (administrative-territorial units), the Kurds have already created a close interconnected coordination self-government in three cities (Afrin, Kobani, Jazeera). In addition, in the hands of Kurdish militias is Minneh airbase (Menakh, Mennagh Military Airport) near the Turkish border. The airfield has a strategic geographical importance, the base is located on the government road leading from the Turkish border. According to the Syrian Kurds, the difficulties in the liberation movement are due to factors such as the closure of the borders (the three points of contact with the Turkish border and all of them are closed by Ankara, so there is no connection with the outside world), an embargo on the creation of organized territorial associations hostilities.

What are the interests of the Syrian Kurds?

Based on the position of the Syrian Kurds, their successes and results, you can deduce their goals in the war in Syria. Since the beginning of the war in Syria, the Kurds have supported the position of neutrality, not fully joining either side. Based on this position, the interests of the Kurds include two factors:

recognition of the Kurdish nation as a fundamental one (given that the Kurds literally built the foundations of the New Syrian state and defended the key cities in the country, the demand is quite acceptable).

recognition of the legal status of the controlled Kurdish regions (the requirement is based on the fact that the Kurds managed to subordinate the controlled historical territory and conquer part of ISIS). De facto, a “state in the state” has already been created within Syria, it lacks only formal coordination.

There is a certain set of thoughts that I want to convey from program to program, from article to article, from time to time, in order to convey them, finally, to representatives of the Russian public. And I repeat once again - it is important for Russia to get close to the Kurds, until another power has taken advantage of it, it is important for Russia to fully support the Kurds by cooperating with them in the Syrian civil war (Russia is the air, the Kurds are the ground troops). In addition, Kurdish power can become a potential friendly ally for Russia in the geopolitical field of the Middle East.

One thing is absolutely clear: political regulation in Syria is possible only by peaceful means and with the help of the unification of all democratic forces in the war, including the Kurds as a key unit in the war. The Kurds are part of the solution to the conflict in Syria.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 2 March 2016 10: 32
    +5
    Kurds are one of the most significant players in the region. And they can be useful to us and we can help them.
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 2 March 2016 10: 36
      13
      It has long been necessary to support the Kurds, the Kurds are a good splinter in the ass of Erdogan and ISIS. It is necessary to get ahead of the mattresses in working with the Kurds, otherwise the Kurds can become a splinter for Assad.
      1. Temples
        Temples 2 March 2016 10: 40
        +2
        One thing is absolutely clear: political regulation in Syria is possible only by peaceful means and with the help of the unification of all democratic forces in the war, including the Kurds as a key unit in the war. The Kurds are part of the solution to the conflict in Syria.

        Decide on a warrior or a political settlement.
        In the war against whom will the "democratic forces" act?
        Against the barmaley or against the "not democratic" Assad?

        Blah blah blah

        We will politically resolve the conflict in the war of all democratic forces !!!!

        Another call to cut Syria

        In fact, a “state within a state” has already been created within Syria, it lacks only formal coordination.
      2. Giant thought
        Giant thought 2 March 2016 10: 43
        +4
        The author of the article is absolutely right - Russia must definitely get closer and help the Syrian Kurds as allies in the fight against the Islamic scum, but also remember that after the victory, it will be necessary to help Syria strengthen its territorial integrity, and the Kurds will help, because Assad promised them broad autonomy.
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      4. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 2 March 2016 10: 46
        +2
        Quote: 79807420129
        It has long been necessary to support the Kurds, the Kurds are a good splinter in the ass of Erdogan and ISIS. It is necessary to get ahead of the mattresses in working with the Kurds, otherwise the Kurds can become a splinter for Assad.

        When planting a splinter Erdogan, you need to do this very carefully, I would not want to get the enemy in the form of Turkey for 100 years, we now have enough enemies and they are not weak
        1. DMB_95
          DMB_95 2 March 2016 11: 24
          +3
          Turkey has been our constant enemy for three hundred years. And he’s not going to be friends with Russia, regardless of our relations with the Kurds.
          1. Kyrgyz
            Kyrgyz 2 March 2016 11: 48
            0
            Quote: DMB_95
            Turkey has been our constant enemy for three hundred years. And he’s not going to be friends with Russia, regardless of our relations with the Kurds.

            Enmity cannot be eternal, and for the last 100 years there has been a chance to end enmity, it is extremely easy to miss such a chance, we must try to save it if not realized.
    2. A-Sim
      A-Sim 2 March 2016 10: 38
      +2
      I would not rush to evaluate. So far this project is overseen by too many "curators". What will become "Great Kurdistan" we will see. There would be no regrets in the future.
      1. udincev
        udincev 2 March 2016 10: 43
        +3
        Quote: A-Sim
        I would not rush to assess

        Estimates - it was necessary the day before yesterday ...
        Today, a clear policy should be.
      2. DMB_95
        DMB_95 2 March 2016 11: 16
        +2
        It is unlikely that the Great Kurdistan is worse than the Great Caliphate of the IG.
    3. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 2 March 2016 10: 44
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      their successes and results, one can infer their goals in the war in Syria. Kurds from the beginning of the war in Syria support the position of neutrality, n

      We can help a lot of people, and we help, what will they offer in return? Friendship? What is its strength from the Kurds? It is not clever to quarrel with Arabs, who are also far from all our enemies, to commit an irrevocable disagreement with the Turks in the style of their possessed president, for so long have we built the world to break it because of one idiot who took a burden on himself and stumbled while walking? Autonomy within Syria as a federation, and the condemnation of terror in Turkey by both sides would be enough, and no help to actions on the territory of Turkey, at least for now. And it is impossible that this spoils relations with the Armenians.
    4. DMB_95
      DMB_95 2 March 2016 11: 10
      +1
      An alliance (even temporary) with the Kurds is very important. At least, while we have common enemies with them - Turkey and IS. In the Middle East, such opportunities cannot be scattered.
  2. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 2 March 2016 10: 34
    +2
    Kurds - part of the solution to the conflict in Syria

    You can’t argue with that!
  3. udincev
    udincev 2 March 2016 10: 40
    +2
    Kurds are part of the solution to the conflict in Syria.

    ... and in Turkey. It’s hard to disagree.
  4. Saffron
    Saffron 2 March 2016 10: 40
    +2
    It is no secret that the Kurds will be one of the most significant forces after the end of the Syrian conflict (the rest of the gangs do not count) and Russia and Bashar will be better if these comrades are for us, albeit in the form of some kind of autonomy within Syria (while you can seize the territory of Turkey)
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 2 March 2016 11: 09
      +6
      Quote: Saffron
      Kurds will be one of the most significant forces after the end of the Syrian conflict

      If you don’t wrangle with each other!
      Quote: Saffron
      Russia and Bashar will be better if these comrades are for us,

      Dear Saffron, there are no "comrades" in the East, as you will not understand. There are interests in the East. I don’t know about Russia, but Bashar they are like "a bone in the throat", but they must be reckoned with.

      Quote: Saffron
      albeit in the form of any autonomy within Syria (while you can seize the territory of Turkey)

      Exactly, in the form of any! Appetite comes with eating. First autonomy, then the state. Let's wait and see. I will not comment on the "seizure" of the territory of Turkey. laughing
  5. kapitan92
    kapitan92 2 March 2016 10: 42
    +4
    ".... The Kurds are part of the solution to the conflict in Syria. "....
    Part of the solution. "..... It is important for Russia to fully support the Kurds, cooperating with them in the civil war in Syria (Russia - air, Kurds - ground troops) "......
    It is worth reminding the author of the article that the Syrian Kurds are fragmented: there are no common points of contact between the five main Kurdish parties, there is no common leadership and leader. Each party has its own armed formations. So WHOM should Russia "fully" support. Don't be in a "whirlpool with your head"!
    Russia, in my opinion, should take a position of "militant neutrality", helping the Kurds not to forget that "the east is a delicate matter."
    We must quietly go down the mountain and ////// the whole herd. (A) smile
  6. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 2 March 2016 10: 49
    +2
    Joseph Vissarionych already played a decisive role in the creation of one state in the BV, it did not become another to us
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 2 March 2016 10: 57
      +1
      Then the ideology was decisive, and not the rationality of political relations. So Israel became unfriendly, which the gringos used.
      1. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 2 March 2016 11: 50
        0
        Quote: Black Colonel
        Then the ideology was decisive, and not the rationality of political relations. So Israel became unfriendly, which the gringos used.

        then ideology is now a tactical interest, you can justify anything, you need to consider the price and consequences
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    3. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 2 March 2016 11: 13
      +1
      Quote: Kyrgyz
      Joseph Vissarionych already played a decisive role in the creation of one state in the BV, it did not become another to us

      Well, the Jews found their land. What is wrong with the people having their own land?
      1. Kyrgyz
        Kyrgyz 2 March 2016 11: 53
        0
        Quote: Mama_Cholli
        Quote: Kyrgyz
        Joseph Vissarionych already played a decisive role in the creation of one state in the BV, it did not become another to us

        Well, the Jews found their land. What is wrong with the people having their own land?

        I didn’t say that it’s bad, I said that expectations are not always justified and gratitude in international relations is rather an exception than practice, they have gained well and have gained, they have long wanted.
      2. Chisayna
        Chisayna 2 March 2016 13: 21
        0
        Have you found your land? C'mon, there’s one ... the kibbutz wrote a voluntary thing. Do you watch TV? Something these ... well, they don’t want to get rid of Russian passports.
  7. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 2 March 2016 10: 55
    0
    The de facto structure of Syria has already created a "state in the state", lacking only formal coordination
    In my opinion, Bashar al-Assad granted them autonomy within Syria. Just what is the degree of autonomy? In any case, the Kurds have a moral, and historical, right to create Kurdistan. Especially in the current political situation.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 March 2016 11: 37
    0
    Kurds are part of the solution to the conflict in Syria.

    And not a small part. Russian experts in BV since last year insist that it is simply necessary to rely on the Kurds. Only with their help it is possible to solve a number of issues in the fight against ISIS, including overlapping border with Turkey and its control.
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 2 March 2016 11: 54
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Kurds are part of the solution to the conflict in Syria.

      And not a small part. Russian experts in BV since last year insist that it is simply necessary to rely on the Kurds. Only with their help it is possible to solve a number of issues in the fight against ISIS, including overlapping border with Turkey and its control.

      experts do not say anything, they are not responsible for anything
  9. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 2 March 2016 11: 40
    0
    "On February 10, the Syrian Kurds opened their official representation
    in Russia (in the city of Moscow). "////

    Putting on Kurds for Russia means cutting off reconciliation paths
    with Turkey. And the war with Turkey is a deliberate long draw. Neither Russia nor Turkey
    for various reasons, they cannot win it.
    Turkey in response will open "representative offices" of anti-Russian groups of Tatars,
    Chechens, Dagestanis, etc.
    1. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 2 March 2016 11: 56
      -2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "On February 10, the Syrian Kurds opened their official representation
      in Russia (in the city of Moscow). "////

      Putting on Kurds for Russia means cutting off reconciliation paths
      with Turkey. And the war with Turkey is a deliberate long draw. Neither Russia nor Turkey
      for various reasons, they cannot win it.
      Turkey in response will open "representative offices" of anti-Russian groups of Tatars,
      Chechens, Dagestanis, etc.

      Yes, this is a preference for 100 years ahead with zero gain for both parties, all we wanted from Turkey we already have, we will never see straits.
  10. vladimirw
    vladimirw 2 March 2016 12: 28
    0
    Once all this was already in the history of the USSR, friendship with Kurds and training of Kurds in military universities. Why did it all fall apart?
  11. infantry76
    infantry76 3 March 2016 17: 33
    0
    Lord comrades!
    The right of peoples to self-determination - one of the basic principles of international law, meaning the right of each people to independently decide on the form of their state existence, freely establish their political status and carry out their economic and cultural development. This principle, together with other principles, is proclaimed in the UN Charter, which aims to "develop friendly relations between nations on the basis of respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples."
    Turkey is not able or unwilling to give independence to the Kurds, even within the framework of autonomy, trying to consolidate the slogan that has developed since the days of Kemal Ataturk that the entire population in Turkey is Turks, regardless of nationality. Today they use the cliche that all Kurds are terrorists and they need to fight not for life, but to death. In Syria, the Kurds had no problems until the well-known events began. The Kurds had problems in Iraq during the time of Saddam Hussein, but no less they remained now. Thus, it turns out that today this multi-million people living in Turkey, Syria, Iraq fell under the genocide. So where is the international law protecting the interests of this people! Maybe enough to live with declarations of the inviolability of borders following the results of the Second World War? If the state is not able to exercise its powers to ensure the normal functioning of an entire nation or ethnic group, then the UN is obliged to force it to do this or give these people the right to self-determination. Apparently realizing that the UN is not able today to influence the national policy of a number of states, the Crimeans made their choice in March 2014 by joining the Russian Federation. Representatives of many nations, nationalities, ethnic groups live there, in Crimea, but they all united on a territorial basis. They did not want to experience all the charms of nationalist democracy, which the powers that be in Ukraine were preparing for them.
    It is time to force the UN to listen to the Kurds, who have long deserved the creation of their own state, and not to nod at the old principles that no longer live today. The world is changing and this must be taken into account!
    I have the honor! soldier