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The truce collapse or the collapse of Turkey?

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Brigadier-General of the so-called Free Syrian Army Asaad al-Zoubi, who heads the delegation of the High Negotiating Committee from the opposition, told the press about "ignoring" the cease-fire regime by Bashar Assad. According to az-Zoubi, the truce "collapsed." Turkish analyst Burak Bekdil is also skeptical about the peaceful resolution of the confrontation in Syria. The journalist blames, however, rather not Assad, but Erdogan with his “neo-imperial ambitions” and inability to realize the reality.




The truce in Syria "collapsed" before it began, and therefore the opposition does not exclude its abolition, said Al-Hadath television channel head of the negotiating group of the High Committee of the Syrian opposition negotiation Asaad al-Zoubi, reports RIA News".

According to the opposition, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union is considering the option of a complete abolition of the truce.

At the same time, this man accused the Syrian authorities of using poisonous gases. Allegedly they have at their disposal 600 tons of chlorine.

Finally, he stated that "the Russian Federation, Iran and the Syrian regime do not want a truce and do not adhere to it." According to the oppositionist, the VKP "cannot trust Russia, since it is, like Assad, the main enemy."

One should not think that in the West such a statement was supported by applause.

The US Secretary of State disagreed with al-Zoubi. “It is the third day (of the cease-fire), there are certain data on violations, we all take them very seriously. And we are making efforts in the framework of the agreed process to find out whether there was a violation (truce regime) or in reality there were only attacks on (terrorist groups) Dzhebhat al-Nusra or DAISH, ”the newspaper quotes "Sight" John Kerry.

According to him, “at the current stage, we don’t have evidence of this kind that would (force) us ... to come to the conclusion that this problem cannot be solved, or that we cannot improve the process.” "Therefore, we urge all parties not to seek the possibility of evading responsibility for stopping hostile actions, but to help the process of bringing myself to justice," the secretary of state added.

The publication cites the statement of the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Germany Frank-Walter Steinmeier. While visiting Washington, he admitted that in Syria, "tangible progress has been made in the past few days."

“Now it is important to ensure that this process is by its nature more permanent,” and this would open the way for the resumption of inter-Syrian “talks in Geneva,” the German foreign minister said.

Earlier, recalls "Reedus", UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon noted that the cease-fire in Syria is being observed, despite some incidents.

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg called the cease-fire agreement the best basis for a political resolution of the conflict.

Thus, the Syrian "oppositionist" with his "army" risks remaining alone.

However, in terms of a truce, as well as peace in the region, analysts do not harbor illusions.

Turkish journalist Burak Bekdil (Burak Bekdil) is skeptical about the peaceful resolution of the confrontation in Syria. He blames, however, rather not on Assad, but on Erdogan with his “neo-imperial ambitions” and inability to realize reality. It is remarkable, by the way, that the article of the Turkish analyst was published in the American edition.

Columnist of the Turkish newspaper "Hurriyet Daily" Burak Bekdil in the material written for the American think tank Gatestone Institute, pointed out that the neo-imperial ambitions and habits of the Turkish authorities proved to be disproportionate to the strength and influence of Ankara in the region. However, the Turkish rulers are not able to realize this.

Not a dozen years have passed since “many Western statesmen and scholars” praised the Islamist leaders of Turkey as representatives of the ideas of the “postmodern, democratic, reformist” and even “pro-European” type that could serve as an example of the “less democratic” Muslim countries in the Middle East. Patrick Sal wrote about the “rise and rise of Turkey” in the New York Times in 2009.

What has changed since then? Nothing: these “postmodern Islamists” simply presented themselves to the world in “suitable packaging”. And as a result of this deception, the Turks today pay a high price for neo-otmanist and revisionist ideology. Turks were wrong in their leaders, in their strategic vision.

The analyst recalls many terrorist attacks in Turkey starting in July 2015 and ending with the latest explosions (January and February, Istanbul and Ankara). In just seven months, more than 170 people died as a result of the explosions, he recalls. But here we must add more 300 dead security officials and more than a thousand Kurdish militants killed by the Turkish security forces (the agreement on the Turkish-Kurdish cease-fire ended in July last year).

Outside its borders, Turkey also "floats in a sea of ​​chaos," the columnist said. The country was involved in a dangerous "alien war", waged against the Shiite Muslim block and the Shiite governments in Damascus, Baghdad and Tehran, as well as their Russian supporters. In addition, for “neo-Ottoman Turkey” Lebanon, Libya, Israel and Egypt are “hostile” states.

What do government officials say? They make unofficial statements handing the blame on the "enemies of Turkey" who are launching "terrorist groups" into the country to carry out attacks. “Inspirers” of attacks are called some states, from several to one.

In fact, Turkey is simply trying to bite off too large a piece of cake, which it cannot swallow. Political players in the eastern Mediterranean, including Turkey, are taking too much upon themselves. There are too many people who want this cake, and Turkey will not be allowed to eat peacefully.

It is no secret that Iranian forces are operating in Syria: around 50000, Shiite militias are engaged in hostilities there.

From September 30 Russia 2015 bombed targets hostile to the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. Her planes carried out about 7500 combat missions, 89% of which attacked the enemies of Assad, not part of the "Islamic State", the author said. Only 11% of attacks were addressed to the Islamists, who are "universal enemies."

Russia is able to surround Turkey militarily in Syria, as well as from the Crimea and Armenia. The author recalls that Moscow recently announced the deployment of a new batch of fighter aircraft and attack helicopters at an air base outside of Yerevan, 25 miles from the Turkish border.

Turkey looks helpless against such a background, the analyst believes. NATO allies show coldness to its problems. Ankara is openly warned that in the event of an armed conflict with Russia, Turkey will not be able to count on the support of NATO.

Columnist believes that there are a number of issues relating to the likelihood of a peaceful resolution of the conflict in the region:

1. Will Muslims ever stop “hating and killing each other,” including bombing mosques? Will there be an end to the 14 age-old war?

2. Will there be a capable government in Damascus and Baghdad in the near future?

3. Will the Sunni world stop its radicalism?

4. Will the Shia ever control their own expansionist ambitions?

5. When will the Sunni and Shiite worlds stop hating the Jews and stop making statements about the destruction of the state of Israel?

6. Will the Turkish Islamists ever realize that their neo-Ottoman ambitions are disproportionate to their power and regional influence?

7. Will the Western world challenge Russia? If so, how?

8. Will political players in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea be finally “happy”, satisfied with small pieces of cake — or do they necessarily need large pieces?

Burak Bekdil gives a negative answer to all eight questions.

Thus, the analyst does not believe that reason will triumph in Ankara and that Erdogan and his ministers are aware of the fallacy of their neo-Ottoman aims. Not believing that “capable governments” will appear in Damascus and Baghdad in the near future, he rejects the likelihood of peace in the ever-warring region. Governments that hunt for “big pieces of the pie” will not end the hostilities. In this geopolitical scenario, Turkey will undoubtedly plunge into “chaos”. And the latter will be both inside and outside. Truly, Turkey will "float in a sea of ​​chaos."

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  1. Sensatus
    Sensatus 2 March 2016 06: 23
    23
    Turkey, it seems, in any scenario, will not be the same. It was not necessary for Erdogan to let the genie out of the bottle.
    1. subbtin.725
      subbtin.725 2 March 2016 07: 09
      +6
      Turkey against this background looks helpless, the analyst believes. NATO allies show a coldness to its problems. Ankara is openly warned that in the event of an armed conflict with Russia, Turkey will not be able to count on NATO support

      A beast cornered becomes very dangerous with its unpredictability.
      There is a possibility of overthrowing him by the military elite, there is information that the generals of the undersultan barely tolerate.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 2 March 2016 07: 34
      13
      Quote: Sensatus
      Turkey, it seems, in any case already will not be the same.

      Turkey periodically becomes "the same". After Russia will give her a neck. Time passes, the Janissaries again raise their tail.

      I do not know when this will happen and how, but the Turks are clearly moving towards becoming "the same" ... They ask directly.

      Moreover, it is felt that they are tired not only of us. And their masters, too, are beginning to realize that the Turks have gone too far. They don’t obey, they try to steer something there on their own. Of course, they will be able to unleash the war with Russia. But it will end the same way as with Georgia in 2008. Only Perdogan governor of Odessa region does not shine ....

      And most likely, the Americans will arrange the Maidan in Ankara and quietly take Perdogan to retire to Texas - they will settle on the next ranch with Bin Laden. They shaved that beard, they glue it ...
      1. Docent1984
        Docent1984 2 March 2016 14: 18
        +1
        In 404 there are still two dozen areas so far)))
        1. Darkmor
          Darkmor 2 March 2016 19: 06
          +1
          Well, a truce plays into our hands.
          In fact, the groups in Syria were given a choice - "either you are silent in a rag, or tomorrow we will declare you Al-Nusra and drop a few cab500 on your terrorist hut." It goes without saying - someone decides to snap back. But there will also be those who decide to sit out (which means they will be dealt with, but later).
          As soon as all internal hotbeds of tension are pacified (or cleaned up), direct intervention in the conflict will become impossible for Turkey, even if they find a reason.
          In fact, a truce every day reduces the chances of a successful invasion.

          So let's see - if in the coming days something out of the ordinary happens, the chess situation of winning the game in a few moves will come for us. And all that remains for us to do is just not to stupid.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 2 March 2016 13: 08
      +1
      The news reports that Turkey blocked the bay for NATO ships sailing to control refugees in Greece. An interesting situation. winked
    4. OlegLex
      OlegLex 2 March 2016 19: 55
      +1
      He has not yet released a genie, for the very reason that he does not have a genie, but there is only a bottle which he brandishes, scaring everyone around, and if Old Europe is completely afraid of herself, then such a number did not pass with Mother Russia. But the fact that Turkey will no longer be the same in this. You are right for all 100%.
      My friend has a Turkish husband (though he also has a family and children there) and so he left for his historical homeland quite well before the incident with our plane. so recently, during calls, he has been saying all the time that he misses Russia very much and that in Turkey they expect a possible war with Russia with quiet horror and no one believes that they have at least some chance of winning.
  2. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 2 March 2016 06: 29
    +1
    Russia is able to surround Turkey militarily in Syria, as well as from the Crimea and Armenia.

    The blockade, however, is complete .. the Turks are probably horrified?
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 2 March 2016 06: 48
      +1
      The main striking force of the Turkish ground forces are tanks. All are in service with the Turkish army tanks of foreign manufacture. About 3-x thousand tanks are in service, but more than 1200 of them are completely outdated American M48, these machines are mainly taken out of storage or used in training centers. The most modern tank at the disposal of the Turkish Army is the German Leopard 2А4, there are 339 units. It is planned to upgrade these tanks to А6 by the Turkish company ASELSAN. In addition, there are 392 German tanks Leopard 1 of various modifications and a little more than 1200 of even older American tanks M60 of various modifications.


      Do not underestimate the capabilities of the Turkish army ...
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 2 March 2016 11: 03
        +2
        So the Turkish military directly stated to Erdogan that the invasion of Syria is possible only by direct instruction of the UN Security Council, i.e. they sent Erdogan directly, the UN Security Council, until Russia made such a decision there.
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. kos2910
        kos2910 2 March 2016 11: 58
        +2
        It is not necessary to underestimate, but there is no need to overestimate, now tanks do not solve everything.
      4. KaPToC
        KaPToC 2 March 2016 19: 36
        -1
        This is such a Turkish deception, in fact, the Turks do not have the voiced number of tanks. The fact is that Turkey sends Worn-out equipment to long-term storage warehouses and before sending them into battle they need to be capitalized, which Turkey cannot do, it does not have the necessary production facilities.
    2. olegactor
      olegactor 2 March 2016 10: 40
      -7
      and you cho sad for apricots .... so go sympathize with them
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 2 March 2016 12: 16
        +2
        and you cho sad for apricots .... so go sympathize with them
        -------------------------------------------------- ---
        Do not be you general, the youngest, with such rudeness.: =))
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 2 March 2016 06: 31
    13
    Erdogan, didn’t sit on two chairs .. He refused one, the other one is pulled out ... Paradox. Turkey can be strong and respected only in alliance with Russia, but they have not understood in Turkey, for so many years and hardly will understand ...
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 2 March 2016 14: 24
      0
      Quote: parusnik
      Erdogan, did not sit on two chairs ..

      Rather, he could not sit on all the chairs that were within sight. He tried to realize something enchanting - to restore no more no less than the Ottoman Empire. But for a moment, during the existence of this empire, the Turkish army was the strongest in the world, systematically devouring European states.
      In what way was Erdogan going to return that empire? With the help of covert operations and actions in the style of the game "Civilization" of the first editions. That is, he negotiated with one country against another, with the newly attacked country he tried to negotiate against the third on another issue ... Everyone sent him.
      Then he tried to pump out more of the loot from Syria, while also attacking the Kurds. And well, he would attack someone! Well, I’ve been late for a century or two with the approach and skills, now there are such politicians that this would not be the most idiotic act. But he can’t attack on a large scale. He who joined NATO, his people (consisting of a considerable percentage of the same Kurds) in this organization cannot be attacked with military force!
      Not because, of course, their peoples pity them. Why? The cannibals are ... Just NATO is a PR organization. You can do anything there, but not something that prevents PR managers from taking out allocations. Hunger - even the whole population die. And shoot the zas!
      In general, if you put on all the numbers on the table, you can only blow. Well, he blew, a club ...
  4. alex-cn
    alex-cn 2 March 2016 06: 36
    +3
    I think that Turkish politics, not now, but in the foreseeable future, will burst by itself, without our direct military intervention. And along with its fragments, the current government will also sweep away.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 2 March 2016 07: 54
      +4
      Quote: alex-cn
      I think that Turkish politics, not now, but in the foreseeable future, will burst by itself, without our direct military intervention. And along with its fragments, the current government will also sweep away.

      By itself, nothing is ever done.
      Erdogan is actually a dictator and will be able to stay in power for a very long time. Here, after all, the East and rulers have been sitting for decades.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 March 2016 06: 39
    +9
    At the same time, this man accused the Syrian authorities of using poisonous gases.

    By the way, Israel hastened to repeat this, accusing B. Assad of using chemical weapons after the armistice. It’s not clear, like the Jews held a low profile in Syria, and here it’s on you. It is not ruled out that another trick is being conceived by the West.
    1. Scout
      Scout 2 March 2016 08: 04
      +4
      The chemical weapons were removed from Syria from Assad. And the provocation was from the side of the militants and there is no doubt about it. It is unlikely that Assad is so brainless that he is not afraid to lose Moscow’s support using some kind of weapon of mass destruction. The militants decided to repeat the same cartoon with which actually it all started. They decided to put Moscow in Syria in the same position as in the Donbass. Accuse Moscow of everything as a force having influence on Assad. Yes, and in general it is necessary to prove the investigation, then yes.
  6. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 2 March 2016 06: 41
    +1
    The decision to end the ceasefire will be made by Russia, when the Russian Aerospace Forces will take full advantage of their sorties, then it has ended.
  7. rassel0889
    rassel0889 2 March 2016 06: 47
    +4
    As far as I know and understand the situation, no one asked the Turks and will not ask permission for peace or war. But as a mongrel, who calls the owner to bark with his bark, Turkey is very suitable. We are waiting for the owners to answer, I hope the Turks themselves have shown such an initiative, otherwise, the owner himself will poison Turkey against Russia.
  8. inkass_98
    inkass_98 2 March 2016 06: 54
    +7
    Burak Bekdil gives a negative answer to all eight questions

    And completely in vain. Most of the questions (besides challenging the west of Russia) can be answered quite positively, provided that the West as a whole and the States in particular will stop poking their limbs where they are not asked, and also stop financing religious scumbags. Then, gradually, adequate governments will appear, and the Muslims will begin to agree among themselves, and even thin but peace will be with Israel.
    And in the current conditions - yes, without options, everything is very sad.
  9. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 2 March 2016 06: 54
    +2
    The "ass positioners" began to cry - they are working out the master's loot ..
  10. The black
    The black 2 March 2016 06: 56
    +4
    The truce collapse or the collapse of Turkey?
    For me it’s both. Moreover, the second will flow from the first.
    Erdogan didn’t need to let a genie out of a bottle.
    That's right. And he already released it. The Americans are realizing their Kurdistan project (and we, at least, will not mind) and the Turks will lose part of their territory within their current borders. Naturally, the Turks will not forgive this Pirdogan and he will end very sadly ....
  11. valent45
    valent45 2 March 2016 07: 06
    +1
    First of all, it is close to the collapse of Turkey. The fact that a coup is very likely in Turkey is a fact.
    And the collapse of Turkey is, in general, the collapse of American policy in the BV.
  12. Saffron
    Saffron 2 March 2016 07: 08
    +2
    Turkish analyst Burak Bekdil is also skeptical of a peaceful resolution to the confrontation in Syria. The journalist, however, blames, rather, not Assad, but Erdogan with his “neo-imperial ambitions” and his inability to realize reality.
    Like this, does he blame him freely?
  13. surrozh
    surrozh 2 March 2016 07: 19
    +2
    And how many divisions this "oppositionist" from the All-Union Communist Party has, his statements by ISIS remind him of something.
  14. serkhan
    serkhan 2 March 2016 07: 43
    +3
    ... about 7500 sorties, 89% of which attacked Assad’s opponents outside the Islamic State, the author believes. Only 11% of the attacks targeted the Islamists ...
    Probably, without this reverence, the American media would not have printed his article. Well, Americans will not notice a small spoonful of lies in a big barrel of truth. Well, no way ...
  15. Scout
    Scout 2 March 2016 07: 59
    -3
    After the incident with the plane, Erdogan realized that he was getting excited and wanted to keep his face reconciled with Putin, and there was no doubt that this incident was not only state but also a personal insult to our president. And I think the whole world understood that it’s better not to hurt Putin personally. for the sake of state interests, if he could offend and swallow, there is no doubt that a person like him will not forgive his personal insult until he smashes the enemy on the wall
    1. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx 2 March 2016 13: 03
      0
      After the incident with the plane, Erdogan realized that he was getting excited and wanted. And there was no doubt that this incident was not only state but also a personal insult to our president.
      Russia immediately announced the conditions of reconciliation: an official apology, punishment of the guilty and compensation for material losses. And all this the Turks could have done without losing their "face", but they ran to hide under the wing of NATO. A perdogan would say: sorry, the mistake came out, they would find a scapegoat for the role of an F-16 pilot, but they paid a hundred million dollars for the plane and compensation to the family of the deceased pilot and could
      saving face reconciled with Putin
      Since the beginning of the conflict in Syria, Russia has preferred not to aggravate relations with Turkey because of economic ties. It was known for a long time that weapons and militants went in transit through them, there was also an invasion of the Turkish military into Syria "to protect the tomb", multiple attacks on Syrian Air Force planes, to which our Foreign Ministry did not react strongly.
  16. Oldwiser
    Oldwiser 2 March 2016 08: 00
    +2
    "let the gin out of the bottle" - so Erdogan himself is this "gin". Miracle Yudo included.
  17. Taygerus
    Taygerus 2 March 2016 09: 09
    +5
    Quote: The same Lech
    The main striking force of the Turkish ground forces are tanks. All are in service with the Turkish army tanks of foreign manufacture. About 3-x thousand tanks are in service, but more than 1200 of them are completely outdated American M48, these machines are mainly taken out of storage or used in training centers. The most modern tank at the disposal of the Turkish Army is the German Leopard 2А4, there are 339 units. It is planned to upgrade these tanks to А6 by the Turkish company ASELSAN. In addition, there are 392 German tanks Leopard 1 of various modifications and a little more than 1200 of even older American tanks M60 of various modifications.


    Do not underestimate the capabilities of the Turkish army ...


    DO NOT UNDERSTIMATE THE OPPORTUNITIES OF THE RUSSIAN ARMY soldier
  18. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 2 March 2016 09: 34
    +2
    I will not be surprised if Erdogan ends up as Gaddafi.
    1. Barnaul, Altai
      Barnaul, Altai 2 March 2016 15: 12
      0
      I do not agree a bit!
      Not like Gaddafi, but like Hitler ...
  19. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 2 March 2016 09: 43
    0
    This truce is in the hands of only Turkey and the igil. The border remains under the control of Turkey, no one massively kills bearded men.
  20. Belousov
    Belousov 2 March 2016 09: 49
    0
    It seems that Erdogan ran ahead of the steam engine in the execution of the state-Saudi plan and slightly confused the cards to the owners. Had to bomb a little later, and hard, while there were few of our forces there. And when the boats drove up, they put rockets, etc. it became a little harder to do. But these are purely my amateurish thoughts.
  21. Xent
    Xent 2 March 2016 09: 55
    +1
    In how ... a truce suddenly after Russia began to peck those who are doubtfully close to the Turks ... I do not believe that the Turkish government thinks about the people, it only thinks about the great Turan from the Bosphorus to China ... they do not care about all the peoples and in the pile too ... so I think it would be necessary to raise the question of what should destroy Pan-Turkism at the very initial stage and to do it as the Americans do ... people against Erdogan, Kurds against Erdogan, Armenians against Erdogan and the main role here for Russia there will be a cancellation of the 1921 treaty ...
  22. Vega
    Vega 2 March 2016 09: 56
    0
    Erdogan is torn to pieces, crushing internationally in different directions, crushing relatives, crushing ambitions, crushing Islamists and so on, but there’s not enough mind to understand who and what to go with. You can not eat at the same time several spoons, the face will crack.
  23. mr.grin19z
    mr.grin19z 2 March 2016 10: 23
    0
    Erdogan wanted both ours and yours as a result he shit to himself and now he is vomiting and mosquing
  24. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 2 March 2016 10: 50
    0
    Quote: Sensatus
    Turkey, it seems, in any scenario, will not be the same. It was not necessary for Erdogan to let the genie out of the bottle.

    He did not need to smoke. This, could not release the genie.
  25. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 2 March 2016 11: 36
    0
    Truly, Turkey will "float in a sea of ​​chaos."
    It seems to me gentlemen, that not only Turkey.
  26. Evil 55
    Evil 55 2 March 2016 12: 32
    0
    The chaos of Turkey in the head of its rulers ...
  27. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 2 March 2016 13: 35
    0
    For the last 4 years, the United States and Turkey have tried with all their might to destabilize the situation and overthrow the legitimate government of Syria, but the last "marked trump cards of the amers from the sleeve" against Assad are tons of chemical weapons and hordes of ISIS have been neutralized with the help of Russia. Of course, this is not the end, but only the beginning of the confrontation and further showdowns, since if the Americans smell oil, it will be difficult to stop them. Remember Hitler, he, like a zombie, moved troops into his trap - to the Caucasus for oil, "If we do not seize the oil sources of the Caucasus, I will have to face the fact that we cannot win this war." and at the end of the 44th he threw all his forces only to protect the oil fields of the Romanian Ploiesti. There are still many battles ahead for the energy resources of this Earth.
  28. Tired
    Tired 2 March 2016 14: 42
    0
    A map of the New Middle East appeared on the network in the middle of the zero. And on this map, Kurdistan was also a separate state and Syria was divided into coastal and continental parts and Iraq was cut into pieces. And apparently what was then only in the plans is now being gradually implemented in practice. In fact, the United States and European states benefit from a weak Turkey. When she was in the Ottoman Empire, they simply broke a hot-water bottle without any pity, and the Kurdistan project was pedaled at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. This topic died out only because of the confrontation with the USSR, but now it has apparently become relevant again.
  29. Balagan
    Balagan 2 March 2016 15: 21
    0
    Do not underestimate the Turkish army. But it is also not worth considering that in police operations this army became tryndets which is combat-ready. To fight against the army, it’s not to drive partisans in the villages.
  30. Karlos
    Karlos 2 March 2016 15: 45
    +2
    There is one but serious problem in Turkey: out of 80 million people, only half are Turks, 20 million Kurds, 10-12 million Alevites (not to be confused with Alawites) about 5 million Hemsil (Islamized Armenians), crypto Christians (Armenians, Greeks) about 5 mln., Circassians, manholes, by the way, Erdogan in national laz and all these guys are waiting in the wings, they are unlikely to shed blood for Turkey.
  31. Bredovich705
    Bredovich705 2 March 2016 18: 01
    0
    A very real picture for Turkey! And there is a naturally prejudiced attitude towards Russia's participation in the fight against terrorism, well, yes, we are used to it.
  32. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 2 March 2016 19: 34
    +1
    You can understand Turkey and Erdogan specifically, knowing only one of two things. All that he makes is his personal willful decisions or the Americans are manipulating him. If the first one is very stupid. If the second one is stupid twice.
    I'm wondering if the Turks can start an internal "Maidan"? How homogeneous and politically united the Turks are. Well, not counting the Kurds, of course. Such a number of citizens in a country of hating Turks is already a rope around the neck. And if Turkey turns into Libya, that's then Europe will win.
  33. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 6 March 2016 16: 38
    0
    Interestingly, our media's point of view has changed - a couple of years ago they argued that Erodgan is the support of the state, the pillar of the country so to say. and all popular unrest is Maidan mold. And now the song is different - now all opposition movements are good, and it is bad to "actively suppress the opposition."

    In fact, now the Russian Federation (and Europe!), One thing is important: do not get into provocations and get into a new Crimean war when the Europeans harnessed themselves to the Turks that they do not need, and Russia harnessed yet again to the affairs of the Middle East.