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They will go to the North

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They will go to the North Russia's intervention in the Syrian conflict has thwarted Western plans to destroy another state with the help of international terrorist aggression. However, the difficulties created by the Islamic state and its partners from the so-called “moderate Syrian” opposition, which is banned in our country for terrorism, will only change the direction of the Islamists' expansion. Despite the ritual cackling of the State Department and no less ritual "alleged bombing," the Islamists remain strategic. weapons USA and their special services. The latter, more and more often, as far as can be understood, act independently - in the interests not of their own state, but directly of global monopolies.


With this in mind, the natural direction of further expansion of the Islamic state is Central Asia.

The liberation of Kunduz from the Taliban at the end of September - the first decade of October 2015, for all its importance, remained a tactical success that could not change the strategic picture.

The states of Central Asia, with the exception of Kazakhstan, are poorly managed and combine national wealth with the hopeless poverty of the overwhelming majority of the population, deprived of any intelligible rights and prospects. Therefore, they are not only fertile ground for the development of political Islam striving for justice in its most extreme forms, but also promise huge winners to their conquerors - not only resource and human, but also political, because the owners of the resources of Central Asia will necessarily be recognized by the West, even as a strategic counterweight to China and Russia.

Therefore, the path of the Islamic state objectively lies to the north. And before a breakthrough to the North Caucasus and the Volga region with the subsequent attempt to destroy Russia, he should objectively dig in the Russian civilization, which turned out to be an unowned “soft underbelly,” which temporarily abandoned its world-widehistorical roles and from their natural rights.

The specific breakthroughs are quite obvious. Uzbekistan, whose leadership is well aware of its strategic vulnerability, has mined the border with Afghanistan, and this “corporate identity”, with all its rudeness, seems to be the only effective one. The border with Tajikistan, almost transparent for drug trafficking, with the help of Russia can be effectively protected by its authorities, who have not yet completely lost the self-preservation instinct. Turkmenistan remains - and the dress rehearsal of the invasion was held last summer.

Actually, if its participants did not perceive it merely as a rehearsal, the racca bombing would lose its meaning: a not too large group of well-trained militants, despite the fragmentation and inconsistency (as always with the disgrace of a closed state) of information, would demonstrate the inability of the Turkmen state to self-defense quite convincing. Of course, the whole “modern society of the Internet” is not capable of resisting the “new barbarism”, which makes it possible to achieve amazing success with small forces. So, the two-million Mosul was taken by less than 2 by thousands of militants, and there was no talk of public sympathy: in the first week half a million were fleeing. Without quick help from Russia and Iran (the United States, in response to pleas for immediate support from the air, promised to consider the possibility of sending advisers in six months), they could take Baghdad possible. And in the “New Year's Sexual Jihad,” the smug rich Germany, accustomed to teaching life to all of Europe, was put at best on its knees by literally several thousand Muslims, armed only with phrases like “lift the skirt”.

The Turkmen authorities, having gathered all the armed forces and even the militia, repulsed themselves only with the greatest difficulty: in fact, the Islamists left, when and how they wanted, making sure they could return at any moment.

And because this spring is expected to continue.

The frightened leadership of Turkmenistan, as far as one can judge, has agreed with the United States to transfer to it a large Soviet military base in Mary, to organize protection from the Islamists. If this agreement is realized, we should expect a repeat of the scenario, with brilliance realized (hardly without the support of the United States) in Iraq: after concentrating on a key military base of modern American technology, including Tanks and howitzers, it is passed on to the Islamists, who thereby receive a decisive advantage over government forces.

Turkmenistan plays a key role in Central Asia due to its huge gas reserves. In 2015, on three lines of a gas pipeline with a capacity of 55 billion cubic meters. per year he delivered to China 35 billion cubic meters. per year (in 2017, the fourth line is planned to be commissioned with a capacity of 25 billion cubic meters per year), at the end of 2015, the implementation of the risky TAPI project - a gas pipeline with a capacity of 33 billion cubic meters. in the year that, after passing through a flaming Afghanistan and Pakistan, should provide India with Turkmen gas, which is (at least in the Asian region) a strategic ally of the United States.

Islamist aggression and the occupation of at least a part of the territory of Turkmenistan (if not its complete seizure) will allow the United States to stop supplying Turkmen gas to China, causing the latter a painful blow. Gas can be reoriented in connection with US strategic interests: either via TAPI to India (which will intensify its contradictions with China, complicating the development of BRICS, and weaken Pakistan’s orientation to China), or to Europe - to replace Russian gas in it and in Turkey.

At the same time, the Islamists will fundamentally strengthen their financial base and will receive an excellent base for fomenting the flame of jihad throughout Central Asia and, at least, in the south of Kazakhstan. At the same time, millions (or even more) of refugees are effectively disorganizing and destabilizing Russia - and all this without any formal US participation!

Therefore, for our country in the strategic plan, the aggression of the Islamic state should be redirected to Saudi Arabia - a rapidly weakening US ally, attractive to attackers due to the possession of religious shrines, open disregard of all and every rule of justice, including those directly dictated by the religious precepts of Islam, as well as obvious decline in management efficiency.

The direction of Islamist aggression will largely determine the future of the world, and it’s time for Russia to begin to fully use the American principle of implacable and unconditional punishment for hostility while simultaneously supporting friendly actions.
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  1. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 1 March 2016 08: 57
    19
    Burn Islamists with a hot iron !!!
    1. cniza
      cniza 1 March 2016 09: 02
      24
      Very correct analytics and conclusions - now anyone who can change the direction of movement of this snake - DAISH, the struggle will be very difficult.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 1 March 2016 09: 25
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        Very correct analytics and conclusions - now anyone who can change the direction of movement of this snake - DAISH, the struggle will be very difficult.

        In this situation, it is interesting whether Uzbekistan will return to the CSTO? Everything is complicated with Turkmenistan, he maintains neutrality, but when he presses to whom he will turn, to us and whether to the Americans or even to the Turks?
        1. weksha50
          weksha50 1 March 2016 10: 12
          +1
          Quote: RUSS
          when he presses to whom he will turn, to us and whether to the Americans or even to the Turks?



          And the article practically gives an answer to this question ... Most likely - to amers ...
          And the "neutrality" of Turkmenistan is rather controversial ...
          1. your1970
            your1970 1 March 2016 12: 37
            0
            "The Islamist aggression and occupation of at least part of the territory of Turkmenistan (if not its complete seizure) will allow the United States to stop supplying Turkmen gas to China, inflicting a painful blow on the latter. Gas can be reoriented in connection with the strategic interests of the United States: either via TAPI to India (which will strengthen its contradictions with China, complicating the development of the BRICS, and weaken the orientation of Pakistan towards China), or to Europe - to replace Russian gas in it and in Turkey. "
            Significant volumes of gas are purchased by the Russian Federation for sale to Europe; therefore, the cessation of supplies to the Russian Federation will immediately respond to Europe.
            Pipelines besides the Russian Federation are very territorially doubtful: the Caucasus alone is worth something ...
            In addition, a decrease in supply can cause a surge in gas prices in Europe, which is in our favor.
          2. Fat
            Fat 1 March 2016 14: 18
            0
            Quote: weksha50
            Quote: RUSS
            when he presses to whom he will turn, to us and whether to the Americans or even to the Turks?

            And the article practically gives an answer to this question ... Most likely - to amers ...
            And the "neutrality" of Turkmenistan is rather controversial ...

            It all depends on the leaders of Turkmenistan, or rather, on how much they will hold on to their power. They will turn to the one who will show the greatest effectiveness in the fight against color revolutions and terrorism or who will sell for pan-Turkism or evergreen liberal values ​​(in the last two versions, Berdymukhamedov cannot be seen in power, he is definitely not the Eternally Great Saparmurat Turkmenbashi)
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 1 March 2016 10: 45
          0
          I believe that Turkmenistan will be the first victim.
        3. Bykov.
          1 March 2016 11: 54
          0
          Quote: RUSS

          In this situation, it is interesting whether Uzbekistan will return to the CSTO? Everything is complicated with Turkmenistan, he maintains neutrality, but when he presses to whom he will turn, to us and whether to the Americans or even to the Turks?
          Not participation and neutrality of Uzbeks and Turkmens in the CSTO is a pose that they can afford now, without real problems for themselves in the region. And when in the open In Asia and through their countries in particular, hordes of radical frostbites will run (without asking anyone!), Time for antics will quickly pass, and Turkmens and Uzbeks will be asked for a common security system.
      2. DMB_95
        DMB_95 1 March 2016 09: 36
        +2
        In this situation, it is necessary to destroy the spirits now - in Syria, Iraq, without interrupting the truce that is absolutely harmful to us. It is also necessary to conclude a military alliance with Iran. It is more than a real force in the region and an implacable enemy of the United States and Saudis. As for Turkmenistan, diplomats need to stir up China, which consumes Turkmen gas.
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        2. RUSS
          RUSS 1 March 2016 09: 44
          +1
          Quote: DMB_95
          In this situation, it is necessary to destroy the spirits now - in Syria, Iraq,

          They will climb into Turkmenistan from Afghanistan, and not from Syria and Iraq, even if all terrorists are destroyed in Syria, they will also recruit "meat" through Afghan direct road to Turkmenistan.
          1. DMB_95
            DMB_95 1 March 2016 10: 53
            +1
            Those who are now in Syria and Iraq will climb through Afghanistan. And there is no way to destroy spirits right now in Afghanistan. So you need to bring them down where this opportunity exists.
        3. Altona
          Altona 1 March 2016 10: 14
          +2
          Quote: DMB_95
          In this situation, it is necessary to destroy the spirits now - in Syria, Iraq, without interrupting the truce that is absolutely harmful to us. It is also necessary to conclude a military alliance with Iran.

          ----------------------
          Their name is Legion. New will be recruited, the poor and the evil are now everywhere full.
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 1 March 2016 09: 03
      +4
      Islamist aggression and the occupation of at least a part of the territory of Turkmenistan (if not its complete seizure) will allow the United States to stop supplying Turkmen gas to China, causing the latter a painful blow. Gas can be reoriented in connection with US strategic interests: either via TAPI to India (which will intensify its contradictions with China, complicating the development of BRICS, and weaken Pakistan’s orientation to China), or to Europe - to replace Russian gas in it and in Turkey.

      How can Turkmenistan supply gas to Europe? On our pipelines? Here I do not agree with the author. Then the Turkmens will have to build new gas pipelines. Ukraine has already tried to buy gas in Turkmenistan, and what came of it?
    3. forester
      forester 1 March 2016 09: 03
      +7
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      Burn Islamists with a hot iron !!!

      Together with sponsors - Qatar and Saudis
      1. Dam
        Dam 1 March 2016 09: 07
        +8
        I would clarify the list, along with their parents Amerikosy.
      2. 79807420129
        79807420129 1 March 2016 09: 08
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        Quote: forester
        Quote: Alex_Rarog
        Burn Islamists with a hot iron !!!

        Together with sponsors - Qatar and Saudis

        The main sponsor of mattresses is still difficult to burn with a hot iron. request
  2. rusmat73
    rusmat73 1 March 2016 09: 03
    +2
    interesting article. I hope our Commander-in-Chief and the General Staff of the Armed Forces conduct future analytics and prepare their effective preventive response. yes
  3. erased
    erased 1 March 2016 09: 09
    +5
    poorly managed and combined nationwide wealth with hopeless poverty of the vast majority of the population, deprived of any clear rights and prospects.

    Actually, these words are great for Russia. The list of oligarchs, stealing officials, "professionals" from education and medicine, as well as finance is widely known. Not for nothing that every day we "thank" these pros. Maybe you should start with your country? Not forgetting, of course, about the neighbors near and far. And about the "partners" with whom some of our "patriots" sang so gloriously.
  4. yurii p
    yurii p 1 March 2016 09: 09
    +3
    very important and timely analysis of M. Delyagin and most importantly accurate.
  5. Nsk 54
    Nsk 54 1 March 2016 09: 10
    0
    And what prevented the Americans from doing this in the late 90s and early 2000s?
    1. cniza
      cniza 1 March 2016 09: 13
      +7
      Quote: Nsk 54
      And what prevented the Americans from doing this in the late 90s and early 2000s?


      Our rulers did everything for them. (Gorbachev - Yeltsin).
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    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 1 March 2016 09: 17
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      Quote: Nsk 54
      And what prevented the Americans from doing this in the late 90s and early 2000s?

      In those days there was no ISIS, al-Qaeda came out from under the obedience of mattresses, were alive Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi, who fought with Al Qaeda in their countries.
      1. Fat
        Fat 1 March 2016 14: 50
        0
        [left] [/ left]
        Quote: 79807420129
        In those days there was no ISIS, al Qaeda came out from under the obedience of mattresses, were alive Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi, who fought Al Qaeda in their countries

        But there was the Taliban, although not quite terrorists, but with more and more claims and tied to the same Saudis.
    4. Fat
      Fat 1 March 2016 14: 31
      0
      Quote: Nsk 54
      And what prevented the Americans from doing this in the late 90s and early 2000s?

      Sedyr Saparmurat Ataevich Niyazov, President for Life (December 16, 1991 - December 21, 2006), Eternally Great Saparmurat Turkmenbashi, or rather his boundless love for personal power ... The same thing that keeps Belarus in the "Union State" yes
  6. forester
    forester 1 March 2016 09: 15
    +2
    The territories of Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan that are most vulnerable to capture the spread of this infection, but Turkmens, I don’t think it’s so easy to capture, at least because of the Chinese who have great economic and strategic interest there, I don’t think that they will stay away in case of aggression against Turkmens
  7. Neophyte
    Neophyte 1 March 2016 09: 17
    +1
    Central Asia as a backup scenario for the United States, against Russia, is quite real. Considering all the social contradictions in these states and the growth of radical exercises, this bomb is at hand with Russia! Is the author right, this process is already underway? Is it not by chance that the president held a meeting with security officials , which indicates the seriousness of the situation. Again, Russia will have to open another hot spot?
  8. with
    with 1 March 2016 09: 25
    +5
    The question is, where will they be sent? Will they want to go north, knowing for sure what they get by the horns? Yes, and it’s time for Russia to organize its own Muslim channel like RT. Where instead of radical Islam propagandize the peaceful, creative, work of an oriental person. Instead of sexual jihad - traditional families. Again, it is necessary to act not on preemptive measures, but due to circumstances, the initiative of the Qatari al-Jazeera and other fighters against the injustices of the modern world (but not architects), but elements (such as secular states) under the financial support of the Arab monarchies and Turks. Western Europe is the most likely victim of the radicals. "Whoever sows the wind will reap the storm".
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 1 March 2016 09: 31
      0
      Quote: met
      Instead of sexual jihad, traditional families.

      And what about polygamy, early marriages?
      1. emercom1979
        emercom1979 1 March 2016 10: 23
        +1
        Most likely, there will be no problems with polygamy, not everyone will be able to support all wives on equal terms (expensive and not always advisable, the times are not the same). But with early marriages a problem.
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 1 March 2016 20: 52
        0
        Quote: sa-ag
        about polygamy


        In Islamic countries, where it is allowed, from 95% (in rich countries) to 99% (in poor countries) of families are monogamous - even two wives have few who have enough money!
        But early marriage is a problem. So it was in the USSR, although they were imprisoned for it - read M. Simashko, "The Fall of Khanabad"
        I entirely agree with the opinion:

        Quote: emercom1979
        Most likely, there will be no problems with polygamy, not everyone will be able to support all wives on equal terms (expensive and not always advisable, the times are not the same). But with early marriages a problem.
  9. morprepud
    morprepud 1 March 2016 09: 27
    0
    in fact, the Islamists left themselves when and how they wanted, making sure that they could return at any moment.
    - according to the program "In the world of animals" they showed viper hunting! "At first it waits in the bushes, then jumps out" stings "and again into the bushes. He sits there for an hour, looks around - is there anyone else ...
    Then he flips his jaw for swallowing trophy!" bully
  10. nikones
    nikones 1 March 2016 09: 28
    +5
    Terrorists will be always and everywhere, because it is part of our human species. The world is degrading, religions are weakening, and people are losing faith even in their own strengths. In Russia, we have millions of teenagers who grew up on bright advertising with 100% debauchery, who did not receive a high-quality education, living only with one idea, as it were - wherever - to take the dough more and easier so as not to bathe at all. Fuck them on themselves and on the country. Gentlemen, we beat the terrorists there for their immorality, but do children with higher moral values ​​grow at home, in the country?
  11. Palladin
    Palladin 1 March 2016 09: 31
    +1
    Quote: 79807420129
    The main sponsor of mattresses is still difficult to burn with a hot iron.


    No, it's not difficult, you can just get burned, but as Captain Titarenko said: "They burn for a sweet soul."
    Mattresses themselves soon finish playing with fire.
  12. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 1 March 2016 09: 32
    +3
    Therefore, for our country, in strategic terms, the aggression of the Islamic state should be redirected to Saudi Arabia
    I completely agree with this.
  13. Igluxnumx
    Igluxnumx 1 March 2016 09: 43
    +1
    The main thing is to adequately prepare for the 17th year and not allow the 41st! Difficulties: many have lost the habit of hard work and responsibility.
  14. MSL
    MSL 1 March 2016 09: 45
    +1
    Interesting, good analysis. It should only be noted: at the beginning of the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria, our diplomatic services and GDP spoke about such a development of events.
  15. Michael67
    Michael67 1 March 2016 09: 53
    +1
    Quote: Alex_Rarog
    Burn Islamists with a hot iron !!!

    Recycle ig fans in ALL possible ways!
  16. Papapg
    Papapg 1 March 2016 09: 54
    +2
    It is time for Russia to begin to fully utilize the American principle of inexorable and unconditional punishment for hostility while supporting friendly actions
    With two hands FOR! To live with wolves - howl like a wolf! Our "partners", the word is somehow vile, like partners, do not disdain anything, they elevate all human vices and abominations to the rank of virtues of their way of life. And our answer should not be tough, but "cruel"only in this way, in anticipation, barbarians, yes, even if the barbarians, we answer, will not seem a little, and the answer must be to an event that has not yet taken place. And then our cooperation with" partners "is like in a sexual act of homosexuals - there is a process - but there is no result!
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 1 March 2016 09: 58
    +2
    Well, everything is correct, as always the carrot and stick method, nothing new. The thing is, in our stupid taxis and at the same time grabbers.
    Dear Mikhail, I would love to read sensible analytical work on the work of our government over the past 10 years.
  18. mihasik
    mihasik 1 March 2016 10: 00
    +1
    ... and it is time for Russia to begin to fully utilize the American principle of inexorable and unconditional punishment for hostility while supporting friendly actions ...

    Yeah! Right! Right now we have to start! laughing laughing fellow
    Only here is a little nuance ...
    First, untie the ruble from the dollar, euro and barrel. Make the ruble a reserve currency. Learn how to print and inhale cut paper around the world like the US Federal Reserve, and the rest is trivial. So, purely wished and done! laughing
    Otherwise ... Otherwise, it will be the same as the USSR. They fed everyone, and the teeth themselves on the shelf ...
  19. de_monSher
    de_monSher 1 March 2016 10: 20
    +2
    РУСС (3) RU Today, 09: 44 ↑


    In this situation, it is interesting whether Uzbekistan will return to the CSTO?


    No, it will not return until there is a conflict between friendly Uzbekistan Azerbaijan, and friendly Uzbekistan by Armenia. In these realities of the CSTO, with the naked eye, alas and ah, looks like an instrument of deterrence (even more rigidly - "keeping in check") of both Azerbaijan and Armenia. Calling a spade a spade - as a tool imperial Russia's influence on its neighbors. You guys are arming both of these countries, and from time to time you make big eyes - "Ah, the Armenians are ungrateful!", "Oh, these Azerbaijanis - how can they ?!" For you it has already become in the order of things - and for the neighbors it is a reason to think. That is why Uzbekistan prefers bilateral agreements with the same Russia, so that in the event of an escalation of the conflict between two friendly Caucasian states, it does not face a difficult ethical choice.

    Like that...
  20. Vega
    Vega 1 March 2016 10: 38
    0
    They are already in the north, look at Afghanistan, Tajikistan, tighter Ukraine and others. They must be extinguished everywhere, and not only where they are already strong.
  21. Thompson
    Thompson 1 March 2016 10: 47
    +1
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: cniza
    Very correct analytics and conclusions - now anyone who can change the direction of movement of this snake - DAISH, the struggle will be very difficult.

    In this situation, it is interesting whether Uzbekistan will return to the CSTO? Everything is complicated with Turkmenistan, he maintains neutrality, but when he presses to whom he will turn, to us and whether to the Americans or even to the Turks?

    So the Americans will send them there. And it will be like in Ukraine with truckers, pay us or sell ourselves to us otherwise they will terrorize you
  22. syndicalist
    syndicalist 1 March 2016 10: 48
    0
    Islamism is, first and foremost, ideology. And with ideology, it makes no sense to fight with carpet bombing. By this we only add fuel to the fire. In our country, from 20 to 30 million Sunnis. And we believe that they will love those who bomb their co-religionists? Or will it deter their terrorist attacks? The war in Syria is only a distracting maneuver of the authorities from internal Russian problems
  23. de_monSher
    de_monSher 1 March 2016 10: 55
    0
    And we believe that they will love those who bomb their co-religionists?


    ISIS adherents, the same Sunnis as cats - herbivorous, harmless nyash. The basis of Islam is philanthropy and religious ummm ... tolerance, some kind of bad word, rather, freedom of religious choice. That is why ISIS sheep do not Sunnis and not even Muslims - they must be destroyed as rabid animals - there simply is no other way to solve this problem. In this regard, Russia's actions in Syria are quite adequate and timely.
    1. syndicalist
      syndicalist 1 March 2016 11: 31
      +2
      Most of those who consider themselves Muslims are poorly versed in their religion. Only a few have read the Koran. In my opinion, this is not a religion at all, but an ideology of archaization of the population. And here the very fact that infidels are bombing "ours" matters. At the same time, the fact of the true orthodoxy of ISIS does not matter.
  24. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 March 2016 10: 58
    +1
    ... strategically, the aggression of the Islamic state should be redirected to Saudi Arabia

    I completely agree with the author. It's time to bring surprises to the Saudis with the Qatars. But regarding the reorientation of Turkmen gas, questions immediately arise for the author. Everything is too simple for him.
  25. Asian
    Asian 1 March 2016 10: 59
    -5
    Honestly, these horror stories have already got me with the collapse of the Soviet Socialist Republic. These horror stories do not frighten what will happen as spring begins. The crowds come in. Let the garbage come in.
  26. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 1 March 2016 11: 07
    0
    Quote: nikones
    Terrorists will be always and everywhere, because it is part of our human species. The world is degrading, religions are weakening, and people are losing faith even in their own strengths. In Russia, we have millions of teenagers who grew up on bright advertising with 100% debauchery, who did not receive a high-quality education, living only with one idea, as it were - wherever - to take the dough more and easier so as not to bathe at all. Fuck them on themselves and on the country. Gentlemen, we beat the terrorists there for their immorality, but do children with higher moral values ​​grow at home, in the country?

    So maybe from this just start your fight against world terrorism!
  27. epsilon571
    epsilon571 1 March 2016 11: 28
    0
    I love Misha Delyagin, I would like to make him Prime Minister. For me, his reviews on "Moskva24" are like a breath of clean air - a real politician and patriot of the Motherland.

    Russia faces a choice, and this choice has only two directions: either to be a strong and independent power, or to remain forever a raw materials appendage of a decaying society led by the United States. There has never been a calm life for a Russian person, which is probably why we defeat our enemies. We are grandchildren of God, not slaves!
  28. de_monSher
    de_monSher 1 March 2016 12: 07
    +1
    Most of those who consider themselves Muslims are poorly versed in their religion. Only a few read the Koran. In my opinion, this is not a religion at all, but the ideology of archaizing the population.


    Any religion, in essence, is the ideology of "archaization" of the population. In this respect, Islam is no different from Christianity, Judaism, etc. Only those countries that have adhered and adhere to the methods of secularization are moving forward (all examples are in recent history). It's just that there are different views on Religion (using the example of Islam) - from a calm perception of religion as some kind of basis that our ancestors left us - that is, the connection between generations (as is customary in the Muslim states of the former USSR), to the construction of religion in a certain absolute ( the extreme manifestation of this is ISIS). At the same time, those who absolutize Religion are distinguished by an extremely low development of human qualities - hence all the savagery of these very id-and-ots who gathered under pseudo-religious banners. When you try to look at things in such a "academic" way, be so kind as to look at the world in the GENERAL, without trying to highlight any parts of this WHOLE world. After all, everything here is interconnected, whatever one may say.

    Like that...
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 1 March 2016 20: 57
      0
      Quote: de_monSher
      In this regard, Islam is no different from Christianity, Judaism, etc. Only those countries that have adhered to and adhere to the methods of secularization are moving forward (all examples are in recent history).


      No ... Islam, unlike Christianity, is religion totalitarian (i.e. tightly regulating all aspects of life) and initially aggressive (by the way, the Crusades were otvetkoy - How did Jerusalem come under Muslim rule, have you ever wondered?)
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  29. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 1 March 2016 12: 14
    +1
    "International Sexual Jihad" is a great expression in itself. And it is a perfect adornment for the grave of the efforts of "developed" states to weaken their populations. Yes, the process is natural. Every state official wants and makes every effort to ensure that his supervised be as weak, stupid and manageable as possible. Any manifestation of strength, pride, honor, independence of subjects creates tension, makes them think, work, move.
    And this is unbearable! How dare these people cross over ?! We are here for their sake, and they are !! In general, the increasing role of the state is an unconditional reflex of the state, so to speak, if it is a bunch of officials led by an official. This father tsar always understood what the urge of nettle seed to exalt itself and humiliate people turns into. Officials, by their very nature, cannot rise above tables.
    But finally, what this "work on people" ends up with. In everything, relying on "specially trained people", weak, dependent, helpless and unarmed people cannot defend themselves or the state, that is, the very same officials. Half a million RUNNED in the first week! She abandoned her homeland, her country, the graves of her ancestors and fled.
    Got it, guys? Now it has finally begun to reach you ?! Where are you going to run away with the stolen goods, gentlemen and ladies, our officials? It's the same in all "developed" countries! The people cannot defend their countries, do you understand? Not capable, by your own efforts! It is impossible to defend the rule of law where people are not for the law and not against the law, but simply obedient sheep! Several resolute bearded men subjugate millions of cities!
    This weapon - determined and reckless guys, ready to shoot sheep in packs and have fun, are available in all countries (there was nothing to look for). Soon everyone will feel what it is. Army? Police? Intelligence services? They will sweep away. The country is alive as long as the PEOPLE consider it theirs. Then the people are ready to fight and die for it, and such a country cannot be captured by bearded men. But you guys took away all the weapons. You have actually stated (and not in your irresponsible chatter) that this country does not belong to the people, but to you, officials. You decide everything here.
    Good. Then YOU and protect her. Is that clear? If for decades you catch and punish everyone who has shown at least some strong qualities - do not expect now that someone from the supervised ones will protect you. And nowhere to run. Nowhere.
  30. L. A. A.
    L. A. A. 1 March 2016 12: 21
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    We need world peace.
  31. silver_roman
    silver_roman 1 March 2016 13: 47
    +1
    Delyagin is right as always.
    It is necessary to beat the enemy with his own weapons, and his weapons - double standards, shadow games, PMCs in the form of ISIS, al-Qaeda and branches, playing on contradictions in general their trump card.
    Our southern "belly" has always given us a lot of problems.
    To close it, military bases are needed. In no case should the Saxons be allowed here.
    I don’t remember whether it came out to drive them out of Manas, and there was such a tendency.

    In general, you need to divert the attention of the Yankees from us. In this matter, the PRC is very successfully acting.
    While we are almost forehead battling with the states in Syria, Ukraine, these islands are sawing themselves in the South China Sea.
    Support there is symbolic (moral) and then, on holidays. In fact, the Chinese and I are also opponents.

    I hope the Obama strategy will work to shift attention to the Asia-Pacific region. Although there may also be many problems for us.
    But the fact is that all these Uzbeks, Turkmen, etc. must be strengthened. camps ....
    One drug traffic from Afghanistan mows hundreds of thousands of our people much more efficiently than all the bombs and aircraft carriers taken together and even the reptiles make huge profits.
    It cannot go on like this for a long time.
  32. uskrabut
    uskrabut 1 March 2016 13: 56
    +1
    Bandits must be called bandits, not rebels. Leaders are leaders of gangsters, not warlords. Pursue all this riffraff in all severity of the law: picked up a weapon - you will be killed, without options. I ran away for the cordon, to track down and execute, without options. But for this to work, the authorities, as air, need the support of the people. Question: what kind of power do people agree to support? Only one that reckons with the people and gives him the opportunity to live normally.
  33. Weyland
    Weyland 1 March 2016 20: 49
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    Gas pipeline from Turkmenistan to Europe? What is the route - through Uzbekistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan? laughing But the Caspian’s bottom will not work - its status is unsettled, so Russia and Iran will not allow it: environmental risks, etc. etc. stop
  34. gammipapa
    gammipapa 1 March 2016 22: 12
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    Shchaz amerikosy will give igil move to ship arabia, not for this they were created and grew. Clear business will move to Central Asia, but they are most likely already there. Formed and staffed from local, just waiting for the whistle.
  35. de_monSher
    de_monSher 2 March 2016 09: 32
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    Weyland (1) RU Yesterday, 20:57 ↑ New


    No ... Islam, unlike Christianity, is a totalitarian religion (that is, tightly regulating all aspects of life) and initially aggressive (by the way, the Crusades were an answer - how did Jerusalem ever come under Muslim rule? )


    I absolutely do not understand, with what fright did you decide so? And in general, your logic - kills on the spot. The crusade to Jerusalem is good, it is a "response". And the crusades of the Teutons against Russia, the same? Also "answer", or what do you think?

    You do not have any competence to state this, reasonably. You want to think so, time, talk about what want to think, two, and on the move - creates a baseless myth. No, I understand, of course, that any man in the street wants to feel like the navel of the universe, but doesn't it seem like overkill to you? Well, a "cook" cannot write the history of nations, believe me.

    Who "first started" - whether the Arabs would have gone to Cordoba and Grenada, or whether the crusaders opposed the Sultanate of Konya and captured cities in Palestine - I would not say so unequivocally as you do (fearing to look like a complete ignoramus). When you speak - "How did Jerusalem come to be ruled by the Muslims, have you ever wondered?"I may as well ask you - "Have you ever wondered how the originally Celtic Lutetia became, first the possession of Rome, and then the capital of the Franks, turning into Paris?". This is the first moment.

    The second point is your statement that Islam is totalitarian from the very beginning. I repeat - any religion is totalitarian in nature. The totalitarian Papal throne achieved success in Palestine, capturing Jerusalem, Tripoli, etc. And for almost 200 years there exterminated Jews, Cilician Armenians and others like them. Totalitarian Islamic states grabbed what they believed was rightfully theirs. These were just feudal wars, and just the era of totalitarian communities. What do you want from that era, and how did the totalitarian Islam of those times differ from the totalitarian Christian movements, I also did not understand? What do you mean by this phrase of yours?

    I will even try to explain to you what exactly you wanted to say. Alas and ah, you are infected with Christian myths. As a Muslim, I can take a critical look at history and try to separate flies from cutlets. You, being, most likely, a Christian, have not been able to do this, until now (but I really hope that you can). Even your word "muslik" says a lot. Throw away chauvinism, any, study a little history, and maybe you can have interesting conversations. But for now, I can state the fact - this will not work.

    That's something like this ...
  36. de_monSher
    de_monSher 2 March 2016 13: 17
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    Even this is your word "muslik"


    I apologize - I was mistaken in reading the word. These my words do not count ... *)