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Egypt expresses interest in "Mistral" "started" by Russia

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A representative of the United Instrument-Making Corporation told reporters that important agreements were reached between Egypt and Russia on the supply from Russia of a “filling” for Mistral-type helicopter carriers. We are talking about the warships that France built for the Russian Navy, but, by the decision of Hollande, refused to transfer to Russia, having paid the funds transferred by Moscow. After this decision, all the main equipment, which was intended for the operation of the "Mistral" by the Navy fleet Russia, was dismantled. Egypt expressed readiness to acquire helicopter carriers from France.


Egypt expresses interest in "Mistral" "started" by Russia


RIA News cites statements by the representative of the defense industry, without naming him:
With Egypt, negotiations are continuing on the supply of electronic equipment for helicopter carriers "Mistral". It is already clearly understood that the equipment dismantled from the "Mistral", which was intended for use by the Russian Navy, will not be supplied to Egypt (...) The possibility of manufacturing another set of equipment in Russia specifically for the Arab Republic of Egypt is now being discussed. There is serious progress in this topic. In Egypt, other requirements, we need a different set of equipment with different characteristics that meet the specifics of the Armed Forces of this country.


The interlocutor of the news agency added:
It’s too early to talk about the results of the negotiations, but there is a lot of interest on the Egyptian side. There is a clear understanding that our production structures are able to fulfill this order efficiently and on time.


According to the latest data, both helicopter carriers built by France for the Russian Navy will be transferred to Egypt under the French-Egyptian contract this summer (2016). At the same time, Egypt expresses an interest in the fact that it is the Russian Federation that “repairs” the ships with radio electronics to the standards of the Egyptian navy.
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  1. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 29 February 2016 16: 24 New
    -35 qualifying.
    I would blame them for the most bulwark shit ...
    Pisi: Put oligarchs on them and send them to Antarctica for permanent residence.
    1. cniza
      cniza 29 February 2016 16: 27 New
      41
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      I would blame them for the most bulwark shit ...


      Why? You can make good money and know how to disable this weapon if suddenly ...
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        1. Pravdarm
          Pravdarm 29 February 2016 16: 33 New
          0
          Quote: cniza
          you can make good money and know how to disable this weapon if suddenly ...
          Quote: defense industry representative
          dismantled equipment intended for use by the Russian Navy will not be delivered to Egypt
          Clear red, there must have been souremenny twists!
          the possibility of manufacturing in Russia another set of equipment specifically for the Arab Republic of Egypt.
          - please! And deck vertics to buy from us!
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      3. shibi
        shibi 29 February 2016 16: 30 New
        36
        In Sevastopol you need to put the stuffing.
        So that the whole geyropa and PSA peeled off, and svidomye shed)))
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 29 February 2016 16: 36 New
          32
          Quote: sibi
          In Sevastopol you need to put the stuffing.

          The headings of the following article.
          Egypt is not against what Mistral would buy Russia.
          1. Bykov.
            Bykov. 29 February 2016 16: 52 New
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov

            The headings of the following article.
            Egypt is not against what Mistral would buy Russia.

            A cry is heard from Kiev - This is a zrad !!!!
          2. bannik
            bannik 29 February 2016 16: 52 New
            +5
            I'm against! It is necessary to do your own thing, from and to! Stop feeding someone else’s military industry!
            1. Parkan
              Parkan 29 February 2016 23: 56 New
              +2
              they don’t have time, all the shipyards are loaded with orders - an urgent update of the Navy is in progress, and the Mistrals need very large boathouses, and they are one or two in the Russian Federation.
              1. duchy
                duchy 1 March 2016 05: 39 New
                0
                Why do I need boathouses, at the berth, moor and stuff with stuffing and all-yo-yo-yo.
          3. Lekov L
            Lekov L 29 February 2016 17: 05 New
            +3
            The headings of the following article.
            Egypt is not against what Mistral would buy Russia.

            No, I didn’t buy it - I put it on one filling of the Russian Federation, she was paid half of the contract value, and the rest was given to the rest by barter.
            Business...
            Nothing personal..
            We on the Far East until one is enough.
            Respectfully..
          4. aba
            aba 29 February 2016 22: 01 New
            +1
            Egypt is not against what Mistral would buy Russia.

            With a big discount! No matter how how Russia will not be the first owner. lol
          5. the most important
            the most important 29 February 2016 22: 27 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The headings of the following article.
            Egypt is not against what Mistral would buy Russia.

            More precisely: Moscow does not mind accepting a gift from Egypt. (I owe something for the downed plane ...)
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 29 February 2016 16: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: sibi
          In Sevastopol you need to put the stuffing.


          And this is a very, very good idea. A nice click on the nose of NATO and a good kick banderlog.
      4. Thrall
        Thrall 29 February 2016 16: 30 New
        +3
        "Trojan horse", grounded by a Russian Lefty, so to speak smile
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    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 29 February 2016 16: 27 New
      +5
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      I would shit them on the very bulwark

      Well, why so cruel, we would be able to run them in our crew for 10 years. smile
    3. shibi
      shibi 29 February 2016 16: 28 New
      +5
      Good.
      And got rid of the frog troughs, and another denyuzhku RF will earn them.
    4. Pig
      Pig 29 February 2016 16: 36 New
      +3
      I suppose Egypt will soon express interest in Russia keeping the Mistral for itself ...
    5. afrikanez
      afrikanez 29 February 2016 16: 53 New
      +2
      Don’t be so angry, Mama_Cholli, take care of your nerves. Well, they didn’t get to Russia, and this is also for the better. Let the Egyptians float on them. lol
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 29 February 2016 16: 59 New
        0
        Quote: afrikanez
        Don’t be so angry, Mama_Cholli, take care of your nerves. Well, they didn’t get to Russia, and this is also for the better. Let the Egyptians float on them. lol

        ))) OK. Accepted.
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    6. gergi
      gergi 29 February 2016 17: 59 New
      0
      I didn’t, but I started, since you’re mom. And what did the Egyptians give a shit about to mom?
    7. Dart2027
      Dart2027 29 February 2016 18: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      I would blame them for the most bulwark shit ...

      To the Egyptians? And what are they to blame for?
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 29 February 2016 22: 10 New
        -1
        Indirectly, their fault is on our dead people.
        Moreover, they recently admitted that it was a terrorist attack.
        Looks a bit vague.
        I would have such friends - (well, then you yourself know)
        It’s not necessary to step on the rake a second time.
        1. gergi
          gergi 29 February 2016 22: 15 New
          0
          To distinguish flies from cutlets would be nice to learn. Shot down the plane, did ace sisi order? What nonsense.
          1. Mama_Cholli
            Mama_Cholli 1 March 2016 07: 33 New
            0
            You wrote nonsense. Nobody gave the directive by itself, the position of the leadership, which denied the attack on our plane, you know the reluctance to bear responsibility for what was done on their part and a show and not quite friendly.
            Why do you think flights were stopped in Egypt?
            We have no friends there, do not flatter yourself.
            Analyst (remembering mom).
            1. Evgeniy667b
              Evgeniy667b 1 March 2016 15: 07 New
              +2
              Until 1973, many weapons, tanks, aircraft, and air defense were delivered to Egypt. They did not win the war, blaming the USSR for all the sins, and soon fell under the Americans. Tanks from the USSR. Bad, big losses !? And why should they be small, if in the prayer all the crews spread rugs and communicate with heaven. Smart Israelis are waiting for this moment as manna from heaven and their aircraft clicks these tanks like nuts. Many years have passed since then, and the essence of the Egyptians has not changed. As they were vile, they remained!
              And who cherishes the hope of earning from export to this country, it’s more expensive for himself. Rake again.
              1. Mama_Cholli
                Mama_Cholli 1 March 2016 16: 28 New
                +2
                Thank you for understanding. Many here are in a frenzy and do not see beyond their nose, especially since they are not trained to know history. Read what is written can not.
                Pisi: Unified State Examination be it thrice ...
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  2. Gray brother
    Gray brother 29 February 2016 16: 24 New
    +2
    It seems not to see Egypt ships.
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 29 February 2016 16: 43 New
      +2
      I am sure that in the contract the French prescribed the conditions on the impossibility of resale and leasing to third countries of these "vessels" for 10-15 years.
      I can’t understand one thing, but why the hell do they need Egypt ?!
      1. demo
        demo 29 February 2016 16: 56 New
        +1
        Can't sell?
        A present?
        1. the most important
          the most important 29 February 2016 22: 30 New
          +3
          Quote: demo
          Can't sell?
          A present?

          No you can not!!!!! But you can win cards !!!
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 29 February 2016 16: 56 New
        0
        Quote: kepmor
        for hell do they need Egypt ?!

        Egypt is a coalition with Saudi Arabia. Landing forces will land (in Yemen, for example), troops will be transported.
        In Syria, I think the Egyptians will not climb.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 29 February 2016 17: 30 New
          0
          What a Yemen. Egypt has its own Caucasus
          1. donavi49
            donavi49 29 February 2016 18: 04 New
            +2
            Even two.

            Sinai - but there the fleet will not help much.
            Libya - Egypt helps Haftar without much ado. They even sometimes bomb the Derna and its environs. If the broads break through Tobruk, they will rush further, already to Egypt, where there is a huge, plainly unprotected border.

            However, the fleet of Egypt buys Saudi money, on certain conditions for further participation. In fact, in the future it will be the core of the fleet of the Arab Coalition, for others have a weak fleet. For example, the Saudis - the most powerful naval country in the region:
            - 3 frigates of LaFayet, which have a stealth chip of 2000's sample and all for the sake of stealth and a price tag of 450 million euros, while they have 16 Aster-15 + 8 RCC + helicopter + 76 GRT Melaru.
            - 4 old frigates 80's, which are used as training ships.
            - The 4 of the Badr ship, in fact it’s an RTO with 8 Harpoons, Volcano and 76mm OTO Melara, plus 40mm grenade launchers, 20mm guns on remote turrets, for operations near the shore.
            - 3 of the old English stigmas.
            - 9 old American RCA, with 4 harpoons and a cannon (% of living unknown)

            That is, the Saudi fleet is unable to solve any serious tasks. Generally deprived of specialized landing equipment and ships of the far sea zone.
          2. Gray brother
            Gray brother 29 February 2016 18: 44 New
            0
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            What a Yemen. Egypt has its own Caucasus

            It does not interfere.
            All of their latest military purchases are funded by the Saudis. In exchange, Egypt signed up to participate in the armed conflict in Yemen on the side of the coalition led by Saudi Arabia.
            Egyptian soldiers went to war in Yemen
            lenta.ru ›news / 2015/09/09 / egypt_is_coming /
            800 Egyptian army soldiers with tanks and armored personnel carriers arrived in Yemen, Reuters reports citing sources in Egyptian army circles. They intend to take part in the battles against the Howsite rebels as part of the pan-Arab coalition
      3. bannik
        bannik 29 February 2016 17: 58 New
        +1
        Suez Canal. The third helicopter carrier (well, or RTOs), of Russian production, they will put in the middle of the channel.
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  3. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 29 February 2016 16: 26 New
    +7
    A muddy story with these Mistrals. And this is not the last surprise.
    1. Tibidokh
      Tibidokh 29 February 2016 17: 40 New
      0
      Quote: vladimirvn
      A muddy story with these "Mistrals"

      I consider it necessary to rename them from "Vladivostok" and "Sevastopol" to "Restless" and "Homeless".
      1. ARS56
        ARS56 1 March 2016 09: 30 New
        0
        Renaming what you do not own is the privilege of hohlopiteks.
  4. Oleg Lavrov
    Oleg Lavrov 29 February 2016 16: 27 New
    +4
    Of course, Russia, after all, they have already returned all the electronic filling to the Russian Federation !! And without her, the Mistrals are just a pile of scrap metal !!
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 29 February 2016 16: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Oleg Lavrov
      And without her, the Mistrals are just a pile of scrap metal !!

      With cables for Russian standards)))
  5. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 29 February 2016 16: 27 New
    +8
    The funniest thing in this story is that so far (parking / supply, etc. (think of the current, let’s unscrew it, what’s pinned to the floor?;))) French Shipbuilding pays for them and it’s not cheap.
    1. Army soldier2
      Army soldier2 29 February 2016 18: 32 New
      +2
      And how do you get such confidence that the French have reimbursed us all the costs ?! We have this contract - a secret behind seven seals, even after the French canceled it and showed us a muzzle.
      And the offer to make money with these mistrals somehow strains me. Remember the movie "Deja Vu"? "When it comes to the honor of the 'family', talking about money is inappropriate"
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 29 February 2016 21: 19 New
        0
        And where do you have confidence in the opposite?
        And where are government contracts a secret?
  6. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 29 February 2016 16: 31 New
    -1
    Well, if the Egyptians pay, then it’s not a sin to earn money by putting the right equipment.
    1. Altona
      Altona 29 February 2016 16: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Well, if the Egyptians pay, then it’s not a sin to earn

      ----------------------
      For the Egyptians, the Saudis are wandering, they have a wallet. That's what the trick is and where the dog rummaged.
  7. Warrior Hamilton
    Warrior Hamilton 29 February 2016 16: 32 New
    +1
    Where are they going to land? Come revenge for the 67th year are going to take, poor? lol laughing
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 29 February 2016 17: 47 New
      +3
      Egypt buys the fleet comprehensively frigate FREMM + 4 corvette frigate Govind + Mistral + 4 American Ambassador 3 not for their money, but for Saudi ones. The Saudis, however, give loot not out of kindness of heart, but for specific tasks in the formed Arab coalition, which suddenly had no decent fleet.
      1. Warrior Hamilton
        Warrior Hamilton 29 February 2016 19: 47 New
        +1
        It's good, let them buy! Then, when the "fatal hour" strikes, they will flood it on the approaches to Alexandria and the Suez Canal, Jewish submarines in spite of ..... and save the Motherland .... Allaah Aaakbar !!!!!
  8. Izotovp
    Izotovp 29 February 2016 16: 34 New
    +2
    In general, this was immediately expected after it became known about their purchase by Egypt. And in equipment, like all honest manufacturers, we will instruct the necessary devices and protocols in the programs. So the Egyptians will share information from different antennas and sensors with us. Default )))
  9. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 29 February 2016 16: 37 New
    +2
    Campaign will soon be taken from Egypt through some sort of exchange.
    1. lysyj bob
      lysyj bob 29 February 2016 16: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Dimon19661
      Campaign will soon be taken from Egypt through some sort of exchange.

      Like - they give us "mistrals", we give them tourists?
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 29 February 2016 17: 03 New
        0
        Quote: lysyj bob
        Like - they give us "mistrals", we give them tourists?

        And all this for Saudi money laughing
        It would certainly be nice, but unlikely.
      2. MASK
        MASK 29 February 2016 17: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: lysyj bob
        Quote: Dimon19661
        Campaign will soon be taken from Egypt through some sort of exchange.

        Like - they give us "mistrals", we give them tourists?

        Laughter, laughter, but quite possibly .. bully
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 29 February 2016 17: 41 New
          +2
          Egypt in France was packed with FREMM frigate, 2 + 2 Govind corvette frigates (which pulled even more expensive than Mistral), Rafali, army ACS, a bunch of bombs, missiles, simulators. Therefore, Egypt will not do this. Even if further problems (sanctions, closure of financing of Egypt, closure of lending to Egyptian companies, partial or complete cessation of trade and tourism) are ignored, even direct military losses will be much greater.
  10. aviator1913
    aviator1913 29 February 2016 16: 45 New
    -1
    We disassemble, then collect, and even pay money) Cool! What’s what, but our shipbuilders did well for the installation and dismantling work alone, plus those traveling for those of the crew)
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  12. Izotovp
    Izotovp 29 February 2016 16: 49 New
    +1
    There, our business trips, I think, will be enough during operation. Any advisers, instructors, mechanics ...))))
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 February 2016 16: 54 New
    +4
    You don't need to take anything, you need to gain experience and build yourself. And make money even on your punctures. To make the stuffing for the Egyptian Mistrals, put the turntables on them, and on the earned and taking into account the experience, start making their own tactical landing ships.
  14. Serg81
    Serg81 29 February 2016 17: 03 New
    +1
    There may be an option that has already been expressed here on the site, i.e. France could not supply them directly to Russia, although a contract, then, perhaps, a lot of hodovka was invented: like France does not transfer them to Russia and pays a n-th amount, the ships are bought by a third country (in this case Egypt), the buyer (Egypt ) for these ships you need everything (helicopters, filling, etc.), preferably not expensive. And then Egypt, like, is going to buy all this from Russia (cheaper, there is technical documentation and equipment), signs a contract and the ships go to St. Petersburg, and then it turns out that Egypt doesn't need them (in principle, they don't need them now - it's expensive for them) they are sold to Russia, a little more expensive than they bought from France. Everyone, ships from Russia, Egypt with money + a small gain, France got rid of the "suitcase without a river" and everyone is happy.
    P.S. It is a pity of course that all this is only a dream (((
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 29 February 2016 17: 37 New
      +2
      This will be a blow to France and the EU as a whole stronger than if set directly.

      In the contract for 100% prohibition of resale.

      Even if it does, then the EU will be banned from Egypt, which is currently having a hard time and is actively increasing EU trade and financing.

      You can already keep silent about the problems about other ships. The EU and France recognize the deal as illegal - no one will storm the ships, but it will be very difficult to organize a trip (passage of straits, waters of foreign countries, taking food, water and fuel and lubricants in potras, friendly visits, etc.). This is a very large-scale problem.

      It is not worth it, especially to Egypt.
      1. the most important
        the most important 29 February 2016 22: 40 New
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        You can already keep silent about the problems about other ships. The EU and France recognize the deal as illegal - no one will storm the ships, but it will be very difficult to organize a trip (passage of straits, waters of foreign countries, taking food, water and fuel and lubricants in potras, friendly visits, etc.). This is a very large-scale problem.

        There is no problem, especially if one ship flies without breaks from Sochi (Novorossiysk) to Tartus with tanks and ammunition for Syria, and the second will sail in the far east.
    2. Izotovp
      Izotovp 29 February 2016 17: 41 New
      0
      If you pursue such goals, then no one has canceled the lease !! )))
  15. rus-5819
    rus-5819 29 February 2016 17: 09 New
    -1
    The possibility of manufacturing another set of equipment in Russia specifically for the Arab Republic of Egypt is currently being discussed.

    Our liberoids are now screaming with delight! But it would be necessary to show firmness: they built a trough, bought it, well, swim !!! At the same time, the "seller" has a lesson!
  16. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 29 February 2016 17: 21 New
    +2
    Egypt is behaving appropriately, it is possible to cooperate mutually beneficial. It’s silly to catch up on the story. Against the background of our contracts in terms of military-technical cooperation with different countries, this failed contract would be a drop in the ocean and would not give anything in terms of our defense capabilities. They did the right thing that they did not take the burden on their neck.
  17. atamankko
    atamankko 29 February 2016 17: 27 New
    -1
    So Russia has the opportunity to earn extra money.
  18. demandy1
    demandy1 29 February 2016 17: 29 New
    +2
    Excellent all the same, our muddied! They forced the French to build excellent ships, which we need in FIG. The French had to devote us to modern technology, also a plus! The fact that they would not be given to us was clear long before the end of construction. Then recover their loot back during the economic crisis and force Europe to urgently look for at least some buyers, substituting them to Egypt. And then sell the equipment and helicopters to the Egyptians! Significantly welded on this! And the most important thing is that now the NATO people themselves will think a hundred times before they run into Egypt, they themselves have armed themselves to the teeth, even if not without our participation, now they themselves will be raking out!
    1. kind
      kind 29 February 2016 17: 59 New
      +1
      Something tells me that in the sales contract there will be a ban on the resale of these vessels to Russia. Only about Mongolia there will be nothing there, and Mongolia has already bought a Ukrainian ship for Russia, and it works as part of the "Syrian Express"! Let them sail under the Mongolian flag for the good of Russia!
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 29 February 2016 18: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: demandy1
      Excellent all the same, our muddied! XNUMX

      Only one hitch, no dough. The frogs were probably not aware of our "muddied" and paid not with money, but with bank guarantees, which in turn were suspended because of the "Yukos case". So we don't have denag. And the French have pushed the trough, and generally look good on the arms market. The story with the mistrals did not damage the image in any way.
  19. triglav
    triglav 29 February 2016 17: 52 New
    0
    Like this. We will "start".
  20. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 29 February 2016 18: 21 New
    +1
    That way, two ships feed the floor of the world))))
  21. Army soldier2
    Army soldier2 29 February 2016 18: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: demandy1
    Excellent all the same, ours muddied! The French had to devote us to modern technology, also a plus! And the most important thing is that now the NATO people themselves will think a hundred times before they run into Egypt, they themselves have armed themselves to the teeth, even if not without our participation, now they themselves will be raking out!


    Could you explain to which such modern technologies the French have dedicated us?
    Do you think that having two helicopter carriers means arming yourself to the teeth?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 29 February 2016 19: 15 New
      +2
      Assembly from high-availability blocks is the same. However, there are still no cranes. Sense of technology? The stern was collected from blocks up to 80 tons, and the French had bow in blocks in 480-520 tons.

      Egypt does not have 2 Helicopter carrier, but:
      4 boats Type-209 / 1400M
      1 FREMM - one of the best frigates
      4 Govinda - Corvette Frigate, with Aster, Exosets and Helicopter
      4 Ambassadors - URO American Patrollers.
      2 own companions will be soon.
      24 Raphael with weapons, simulators.

      From the French they bought almost 6 billion saudobaks, from the Germans 1 billion saudobaks, later in France they still walked 1 billion euros in Thales - having bought the 2 satellite. Under the Christmas tree we bought another NH-90 - 5 pieces + an option for an unknown number of cars. Now they are choosing aircraft for the BTA.
  22. samoletil18
    samoletil18 29 February 2016 20: 07 New
    +2
    And what do the Saudis really pay for the work of Russia? I don’t even know how to react if it’s real.
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  24. red_october
    red_october 29 February 2016 20: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: donavi49
    Assembly from high-availability blocks is the same. However, there are still no cranes. Sense of technology? The stern was collected from blocks up to 80 tons, and the French had bow in blocks in 480-520 tons.

    Egypt does not have 2 Helicopter carrier, but:
    4 boats Type-209 / 1400M
    1 FREMM - one of the best frigates
    4 Govinda - Corvette Frigate, with Aster, Exosets and Helicopter
    4 Ambassadors - URO American Patrollers.
    2 own companions will be soon.
    24 Raphael with weapons, simulators.

    From the French they bought almost 6 billion saudobaks, from the Germans 1 billion saudobaks, later in France they still walked 1 billion euros in Thales - having bought the 2 satellite. Under the Christmas tree we bought another NH-90 - 5 pieces + an option for an unknown number of cars. Now they are choosing aircraft for the BTA.


    In the future, Egypt expects 50 MiG-29CMT. The contract was concluded in April 2015 of the year ...

    ... Almost the same as in the photo. Only without stars.
  25. Ekrov
    Ekrov 29 February 2016 20: 23 New
    +3
    Mdaaa, they are needed now in Syria ... Pts. Need ...
  26. 3vs
    3vs 29 February 2016 21: 14 New
    +1
    As I understand it, the Egyptians will cost these vessels 1,5 times - 2 is more expensive than us!
  27. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 29 February 2016 23: 50 New
    0
    So they still rust lol
  28. mamont5
    mamont5 1 March 2016 18: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: sibi
    In Sevastopol you need to put the stuffing.

    The headings of the following article.
    Egypt is not against what Mistral would buy Russia.

    One question. What for?
  29. mamont5
    mamont5 1 March 2016 18: 14 New
    0
    Quote: 3vs
    As I understand it, the Egyptians will cost these vessels 1,5 times - 2 is more expensive than us!

    I don’t know how the Egyptians, but they seem gold to the Franks. How many are already swollen in them and how much will be.